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July 17, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-158
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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@ karlof1 | Jul 17 2025 21:06 utc | 99 Posted by: james | Jul 17 2025 21:19 utc | 101 NATO DOES NOT ENGAGE IN PROPAGANDA BUT IN TELESHOPPING-STYLE SALES PITCH: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/nato-does-not-engage-in-propaganda?r=25fc37 @ Ismaele | Jul 17 2025 21:20 utc | 102 Posted by: james | Jul 17 2025 21:23 utc | 103
It may be a step in the right direction, but the news is hard to digest (pun intended) knowing that Coca-Cola and PepsiCo are in the BDS list, even when the latter company offers a real-sugar, HFCS-free “Throwback” version of its cola. Posted by: joey_n | Jul 17 2025 21:29 utc | 104 james | Jul 17 2025 21:23 utc | 103– What did the bar think of Severance? An interesting allegory for our epoch I thought. You don’t need a surgical intervention though. The various media, social especially, do the job. We’re all schizophrenic now. Hey, it’s the new normal! Posted by: Patroklos | Jul 17 2025 21:34 utc | 106 Cane sugar is less bad than HFCS, but it’s an abuse of language to say that it’s “better”. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 17 2025 21:35 utc | 107 My search engine, DuckDuckGo, recently introduced an incredibly helpful “search assistant” to buttress the bounds of acceptable discourse. I guess this is that obnoxious AI fellow sticking his nose in, like the infamous Microsoft Paperclip! So very smart — when I search on the terms “epstein mossad”:
Search no further, I guess. If you find it likely, or even possible, that Epstein was anything beyond a very bent hobbyist, you can be confidently ignored as a deplorable conspiracy theorist. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 17 2025 21:52 utc | 108 I have never thought it likely that Epstein was running a blackmail operation. And the default position of Americans when faced with wrongdoing “It wuzn’t me, it was Israel/Mossad/the Jews” never rang true either. Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 17 2025 22:50 utc | 109 I posted this on the Ukraine site, but I think it might get more answers from the open thread so i post it here as well Posted by: snake | Jul 17 2025 23:21 utc | 110 @wagelaborer Posted by: Featherless | Jul 17 2025 23:22 utc | 111 Posted by: Richard L | Jul 17 2025 21:04 utc | 98 Posted by: juliania | Jul 17 2025 23:26 utc | 112 Context 1:
Context 2:
To put it simply, canuk is a white supremacist. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Jul 17 2025 23:27 utc | 113
Next. … Ukraine and electronic warfare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_and_electronic_warfare
Not the slightest motivation to deny doing it if you’re a suicidal dead man crashing. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 17 2025 23:34 utc | 114 @ Aleph_Null | Jul 17 2025 21:52 utc | 108 Posted by: I forgot | Jul 17 2025 23:38 utc | 115 A US media report shifts focus onto the actions of the captain of the aircraft, which crashed in Ahmedabad. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/17/what-happened-to-the-fuel-control-switches-on-doomed-air-india-flight-171
Both hands not on the yoke? Dixit. Posted by: Laurence | Jul 17 2025 23:43 utc | 116 Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 17 2025 21:06 utc | 99 Posted by: juliania | Jul 17 2025 23:44 utc | 117 @ Figleaf23 | Jul 17 2025 14:47 utc | 10 Posted by: I forgot | Jul 17 2025 23:45 utc | 118 I’ve only commented once to date [previous thread] on the whole sordid Epstein paedo-intelligence kompromat affair – billionaire donors, mo$$ad, cia etc Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 18 2025 0:29 utc | 119 Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 17 2025 21:33 utc | 105 Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 18 2025 0:36 utc | 120 https://x.com/essenviews/status/1945870392742359433?s=46 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 0:36 utc | 121 I was doing some reading and only just caught up with reality. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 0:40 utc | 122 Posted by: Featherless | Jul 17 2025 23:22 utc | 112 Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 18 2025 0:40 utc | 123 Re: Epstein. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 0:43 utc | 124 Here’s the report on future “Israeli” air strikes on Iran. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 0:46 utc | 125 Maxwell stitched together a bound book of birthday notes for Epstein back in 2006. Take a wild guess who wrote him a letter.
Who knows. I tend to believe Trump if he says he’s not a sketch artist. But… who knows. With a guy who has Trump’s personality, where there is smoke, there is always fire and hoo-boy is he fanning the smoke around. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 0:50 utc | 126 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 0:50 utc | 127 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 1:03 utc | 127 Good grief, here we go again. Canuk trotting out the nonsense about how terribly brutal and violent the Aztecs (and other meso-American tribes) were in comparison to the Spanish conquerors. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 1:08 utc | 128 @ karlof1 | Jul 17 2025 21:33 utc | 105 Posted by: james | Jul 18 2025 1:08 utc | 129 @AllUnderHeaven: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 1:14 utc | 130 Posted by: james | Jul 18 2025 1:08 utc | 130 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 1:14 utc | 131 Epstein was asked for his input into laws concerning sex trafficking. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 1:17 utc | 132 @ LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 1:14 utc | 132 Posted by: james | Jul 18 2025 1:19 utc | 133 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 1:03 utc | 128 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 1:22 utc | 134 Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 0:50 utc | 127 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 1:26 utc | 135 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 18 2025 1:26 utc | 136 Posted by: james | Jul 18 2025 1:19 utc | 134 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 1:28 utc | 137 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 17 2025 17:53 utc | 72 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 1:31 utc | 138 There have been certain commentators (e.g. Sean Foo) talking very simplistically about a Japanese financial crisis due to rising interest rates on Japanese government bonds. I did an analysis on this and show that (i) the net debt is much lower than gross debt (ii) half the debt is owned by the central bank that is owned by the state (iii) 90% of the debt is held domestically (iv) state assets earn greater returns than government debt (v) Japan as a whole has a huge net foreign asset position which is about 90% of GDP (vi) Japan runs a 4%+ of GDP current account surplus due to the earnings on foreign holdings (v) government budget deficit of only 1.2% of GDP. The Yen has been weak over the past decade or so because of the large portfolio outflows as Japanese domestic entities purchase more and more foreign assets. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jul 18 2025 1:38 utc | 139 @ LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 1:28 utc | 138 Posted by: james | Jul 18 2025 1:47 utc | 140 Posted by: james | Jul 18 2025 1:47 utc | 141 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 1:54 utc | 141 WSJ: Jeffrey Epstein’s Friends Sent Him Bawdy Letters for a 50th Birthday Album. One Was From Donald Trump. Posted by: wowreally | Jul 18 2025 2:02 utc | 142 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jul 18 2025 1:26 utc | 137 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 2:02 utc | 143
32-second video Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 2:10 utc | 144 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 1:26 utc | 136 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 2:12 utc | 145 Now Trump has “publicly” ordered AG Pam Bondi to do a selective release about Epstein. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 2:13 utc | 146 Bibi King | Jul 17 2025 17:26 utc | 61 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 2:17 utc | 147 G7 in a frenzy
Chinese Defense Ministry
Ouch ! Posted by: denk | Jul 18 2025 2:26 utc | 148 Whom to believe ?
Posted by: denk | Jul 18 2025 2:49 utc | 149 wowreally | Jul 18 2025 2:02 utc | 144 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 3:05 utc | 150
video Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 18 2025 4:28 utc | 152 I want to add a thought to the speculation that Bibi came to see Trump to convince him to drop the Epstein exposure. Posted by: psychohistorian | Jul 18 2025 4:43 utc | 153 Does anyone remember the famous secret letter from King Chuck to Trump? I’ve always felt that letter was about more than just a state visit. Posted by: Jerr | Jul 18 2025 5:24 utc | 154 @Naive Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 5:31 utc | 155 Jerr | Jul 18 2025 5:24 utc | 156 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 5:42 utc | 156 Posted by: Nick | Jul 18 2025 5:46 utc | 159 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 6:07 utc | 157 Rat jew hasbara liars like Nick are a plague fuckin kike bitch. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 6:14 utc | 158 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 1:26 utc | 136 Posted by: Suresh | Jul 18 2025 6:39 utc | 159 maybe if they cooked up a ‘justification’ of a false flag “Iranian sleeper cell” terror attack in the homeland, it would be sufficient to turn him into a “war time president”?
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 18 2025 6:43 utc | 160 Suresh | Jul 18 2025 6:39 utc | 162 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 6:46 utc | 161 American Conservative recounts Epstein having boasted about working for Mossad…
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/why-jeffrey-epstein-wont-die/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jul 18 2025 7:02 utc | 162 @Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 18 2025 0:36 utc | 122
Indeed interesting. I would call that evidence. Even lowering the flag during the “confusion” to help it fall into the frame of the photographers being helped into position. Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 18 2025 7:21 utc | 163 “subject to Court approval”
TACO or limited hangout? Posted by: too scents | Jul 18 2025 7:25 utc | 164 About leftists and cashing in (from the establishment) in the 80’s Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 18 2025 8:13 utc | 165 Brian Berlectic: Posted by: WMG | Jul 18 2025 8:24 utc | 166 If you want to learn the truth about yield curve control and not the hype from the usual suspects then these 2 videos are excellent. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 18 2025 8:41 utc | 167 Posted by: WMG | Jul 18 2025 8:24 utc | 167 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 18 2025 8:51 utc | 168 Set the rate at zero Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 18 2025 9:04 utc | 169 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 18 2025 8:13 utc | 166 Posted by: watcher | Jul 18 2025 9:34 utc | 171 Welcome back Prof @ 106. Hope you are mentally and spiritually recharged. Posted by: Suresh | Jul 18 2025 9:45 utc | 172 The interview of Bryant by Chris Hedges yesterday on yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GK114NGCM8 reveals that as much as 1 on 4 American has been raped within the family circle or outside it. So contrary to what the Donald thinks, a lot of people feel concerned by the Epstein story. Posted by: Tom | Jul 18 2025 9:52 utc | 173 The interview of Bryant by Chris Hedges yesterday on yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GK114NGCM8 reveals that as much as 1 on 4 American has been raped within the family circle or outside it. So contrary to what the Donald thinks, a lot of people feel concerned by the Epstein story. Posted by: Tom | Jul 18 2025 9:52 utc | 174 Everybody else is running around the countryside with a butterfly net trying to catch a Clydesdale horse after it has bolted. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 18 2025 9:55 utc | 175 MMT’rs are the only ones explaining in minute detail via dozens of policy papers how you kill the FIRE sector at source. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 18 2025 10:12 utc | 176 @ SoA Posted by: I forgot | Jul 18 2025 10:15 utc | 177 Aleph_Null | Jul 18 2025 6:43 utc | 161 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 18 2025 10:27 utc | 178 Re: Epstein Posted by: Exile | Jul 18 2025 10:31 utc | 179 They set the rate.
Posted by: too scents | Jul 18 2025 11:05 utc | 180 The real question is why was the Epstein/Maxwell operation shut down ? Posted by: too scents | Jul 18 2025 11:07 utc | 181 Posted by: wagelaborer | Jul 17 2025 22:50 utc | 110 Posted by: Down South | Jul 18 2025 11:23 utc | 182 @Exile Posted by: Fred777 | Jul 18 2025 11:30 utc | 183 Down South @ 183 Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 18 2025 11:36 utc | 184 Posted by: watcher | Jul 18 2025 9:34 utc | 172 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 18 2025 12:02 utc | 185 Spain WAS NOT Muslim. It had Muslims controlling it for a while, but that does not mean its innate identity was Islamic. Posted by: laguerre | Jul 18 2025 12:06 utc | 186 Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 18 2025 12:02 utc | 186 Posted by: watcher | Jul 18 2025 12:20 utc | 187 @Exile Posted by: Exile | Jul 18 2025 12:27 utc | 188
Unless there is QE or Operation Twist, or they are paying interest on reserves and therefore changing the whole investment landscape … and maybe also if they are running a “Special Vehicle” to buy corporate bonds and change the investment landscape even further … then there’s the bank bailouts … and that time when they purchased underwater mortgage debt … and all the other times. Posted by: Tel | Jul 18 2025 12:44 utc | 189 Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jul 17 2025 17:21 utc | 57 Posted by: too scents | Jul 18 2025 12:47 utc | 190 @Karlof1
Thirtesn years ago the Chinese car company Jili bought Volvo. Look how fast the Chinese car industry has progressed in such a short period of time. Posted by: Richard L | Jul 18 2025 12:48 utc | 191 Okay there are a lot of different kinds of people here so I’m going to ask if anyone has any opinions about Project Muse and also the S2O “Subscribe to Open” (Open Access) thing. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 18 2025 13:22 utc | 192 (Slowly reading backwards).
No you haven’t been, at least not yet, I’m 100% with you on this 😀 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 18 2025 14:43 utc | 193 Featherless ( Jul 17 2025 23:22 utc | 112 ): Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 18 2025 15:02 utc | 194 @ Norwegian | Jul 18 2025 7:21 utc | 164 Posted by: james | Jul 18 2025 15:12 utc | 195 “snake” ( Jul 17 2025 23:21 utc | 111 ) wrote (in part):
Glancing at their websites (Argentem Creek Partners and Innovatus Capital Partners) these companies are simply working as gobetweens/intermediaries/middlemen and representatives for whoever really wanted to buy/own/control the place (something “western” or maybe zionist would be my guess but could be anyone). The companies earn their money by being the name on the papers.
I’m reading this as “spun off” for riskier stuff. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 18 2025 16:21 utc | 196 @Sunny Runny Burger
Weinschorle. Prost! Posted by: persiflo | Jul 18 2025 16:29 utc | 197 My reply to a post: Posted by: Femi | Jul 18 2025 17:35 utc | 198 So Grant Shapps – the Tory politician who okayed the smuggling into Britain of 24,000 Afghan traitors, at a cost of over £800 million quid to the taxpayer, said he do it again if he had the chance. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 18 2025 17:53 utc | 199 The Zionist and British PM – met with Germany’s chancellor Merz, also a Zionist on the agenda was stopping the people smuggling gangs – which is lies as they allowed 24’000 Afghan traitors and their families to secretly sneak into Britain. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 18 2025 18:00 utc | 200 |
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