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July 3, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-146
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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russias unwillingness to pick a side might have ended up actually pushing both armenia and azerbaijan to the west. this is quite an incredible development.. idk how the western powers managed to unite turkey, aemenia and azerbaijan together against russia, this is insanely unexpected. Posted by: Clown Fatigue | Jul 3 2025 13:32 utc | 1 New Berletic: https://rumble.com/v6v907n-us-president-trump-streamlined-the-national-endowment-for-democracy-not-dis.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a Posted by: Hamburger | Jul 3 2025 13:37 utc | 2 “An apparent leaked minutes document suggests that a trade association held a meeting in April to undo the confirmation of Kennedy by the duly elected US Senate. It is embedded below. Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 3 2025 14:30 utc | 3 “ russias unwillingness to pick a side might have ended up actually pushing both armenia and azerbaijan to the west.” Posted by: will moon | Jul 3 2025 14:34 utc | 4 Considered posting this one on ukraine thread but it sits better here Posted by: Newbie | Jul 3 2025 14:35 utc | 5 China has a Debt-to-GDP of over 400 % ????? Posted by: WMG | Jul 3 2025 14:52 utc | 6 It doesn’t have to be Armenia, Georgia would work as well …or Iran. The “Ottomans” would like it all, no different than the US or “Israel” (and more) in their attitude. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jul 3 2025 15:01 utc | 7 Yea right Sunny Runny Burger but I’d just looked at this map – the visuals hyper-focused me lol Posted by: will moon | Jul 3 2025 15:12 utc | 8 Thoughts? Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 3 2025 15:13 utc | 9 @waynorinorway | Thu, 03 Jul 2025 04:36:00 GMT | 346
That sounds great! I won’t deny a little envy on my part, it just seems so serene … a sort of contemplation which I’d view as a form of practical philosophy. You’re almost twice my age, Waynor, and as you’ve noted before, this shows at times – which is cool; I love that. Consider posting the photographs if you so please. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 3 2025 15:16 utc | 10
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/154398
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/154417 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 15:23 utc | 11 In the year 2525, if man is still alive Posted by: ld | Jul 3 2025 15:27 utc | 12
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https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/44330 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 15:29 utc | 13 &3 Posted by: Fred777 | Jul 3 2025 15:31 utc | 14 @will moon | Jul 3 2025 14:34 utc | 4 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 3 2025 15:38 utc | 16 @Newbie | 5 Massive tank armies won the WWII for Soviet Russia, and afterwards the massive output was – as the linked article does note – a strategic advantage over the west with possibly global reach of effect. I’d be surprised if Stavka did not have a red drawer which, upon opening, has drawn-out plans to ramp up tank production like there’s no tomorrow (literally). I imagine after a quick review of those plans it was decided that again building a massive stockpile in preparation the next war after the SMO appeared like a good thing to do. Maybe this took precedence over tactical calculations involving the new technologies such as drones, which are not fully apparent now, so they just went with it. I would have done the same. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 3 2025 15:38 utc | 17 Posted by: persiflo | Jul 3 2025 15:38 utc | 17 Posted by: Total | Jul 3 2025 15:53 utc | 18 “China has a Debt-to-GDP of over 400 % ????? Posted by: canuk | Jul 3 2025 15:58 utc | 19 Posted by: aye, myself & me | Jul 3 2025 14:30 utc | 3 Posted by: canuk | Jul 3 2025 16:01 utc | 20 Will moon and petergrfstrm Posted by: Total | Jul 3 2025 16:01 utc | 21 The Brits are right behind the genocide in Gaza – they have form on this. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:08 utc | 22 One wonders if Biden can still find his own arse with both hands – let alone do anything meaningful. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:13 utc | 23
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/44334 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 16:17 utc | 24 I hope this evil b*stard gets locked up for the rest of her miserable existence. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:19 utc | 25 @Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:19 utc | 25 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 16:26 utc | 26
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/133990 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 16:33 utc | 27 Putin talks with Trump on the phone, he also spoke with the little coke head Macron. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:36 utc | 28 The Lord Haw, Haw of Nato mentions Daddy (Trump) and agrees Daddy has his own country’s priorities to think of first – I wonder if the Ukrainian Rent Boys – called Starmer Daddy – now they’ve burn’t down some of his properties and vehicles, he’ll be a Bad Daddy. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:44 utc | 29 It looks like ‘turcopolier.com’ really is finally gone Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jul 3 2025 16:45 utc | 30 The Yanks aren’t happy (and neither should we be) – that the EU law on disinformation became live on July Ist this year – which supposedly forces social media platforms to block disinfo – ie (The TRUTH) from getting into the public domain – the EU bigwigs do not want the truth out there. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:48 utc | 31 The game of bleeding Russia with Ukraine has worked. Posted by: Viking Teo | Jul 3 2025 16:52 utc | 32 I pay a lot of attention to what is happening in Asia, specifically China but also Korea, Japan, and Vietnam. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 3 2025 16:59 utc | 33 “China has a Debt-to-GDP of over 400 % ????? Posted by: WMG | Jul 3 2025 17:03 utc | 34 @Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:19 utc | 25
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/133993 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 17:07 utc | 35 Posted by: WMG | Jul 3 2025 17:03 utc | 34 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 3 2025 17:12 utc | 36 A general comment on Armenia. Posted by: Montreal | Jul 3 2025 17:15 utc | 37 “China’s GDP is undervalued.” Posted by: canuk | Jul 3 2025 17:25 utc | 38 Posted by: WMG | Jul 3 2025 17:03 utc | 34 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 3 2025 17:26 utc | 39 And if you boil seven Assyrians you get a washed up comic line like Montreals’! Posted by: canuk | Jul 3 2025 17:27 utc | 40 Posted by: WMG | Jul 3 2025 17:03 utc | 34 Posted by: canuk | Jul 3 2025 17:28 utc | 41 @Total | Jul 3 2025 16:01 utc | 21 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 3 2025 17:30 utc | 42 PPP by country/capita (1) Posted by: canuk | Jul 3 2025 17:49 utc | 43 MIDWEEK WIRE – Flashpoint: Turkey / Azerbaijan v Russia – guests Arnaud Develay & Freddie Ponton Posted by: ld | Jul 3 2025 18:08 utc | 44 Just finished with the Hudson, Wolff, Nima chat that dealt with Trump’s BBBill and its ramifications domestically and globally–a chat the whole planet ought to tune into and watch. Two stats that were mentioned stand out: The dollar has depreciated 18% against the Euro over a rather short period of time–just a few months–and the BRICS as a whole broke the Trillion Dollar mark in trade between themselves. There’s a great deal of additional info discussed and culminates in asking a few very critical questions. Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jul 3 2025 17:30 utc | 42 Posted by: canuk | Jul 3 2025 18:39 utc | 47 @WMG, Canuk and Lovedonbas: regarding China’s debt to GDP etc. Posted by: Marian Ruccius | Jul 3 2025 18:39 utc | 48 BBB passed. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 3 2025 18:40 utc | 49 Russia has become the first country to officially recognize the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan! Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 3 2025 18:43 utc | 50 on the topic of armenia, i have to thank the poster ‘will moon’ for the video he shared yesterday on a different thread… i highly recommend this video from gaining more insight into the developments in armenia.. here is the link again for anyone interested.. rumble link first.. youtube link 2nd – same video apparently.. Posted by: james | Jul 3 2025 18:57 utc | 51 Sounds like a lone shooter ie, a brain washed patsy used by the (CISA) or the (ABwA). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 19:04 utc | 52 36 lovedonbass Posted by: E | Jul 3 2025 19:11 utc | 53 We know Daddy (A Rutte quote for Trump) tried once before to overthrow the president of Venezuela when he was last POTUS – this if it happened might have given Trump a green light to invade Venezuela. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 19:12 utc | 54 Re: Graz Mass Killing Posted by: Exile | Jul 3 2025 19:16 utc | 55 “36 lovedonbass Posted by: canuk | Jul 3 2025 19:18 utc | 56 Here in Britain they arrest people at pro-Palestinian demos, or they proscribe pro-Palestinian outfits as terrorist groups – what a sick f*ckin place Britain is now. Of course if you’re pro-Israeli that’s okay – and if you support the proscribed terrorist outfit (HTS), tha’s running around Syria butchering civilians in huge numbers that okay as well. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 19:18 utc | 57 Re: Big Beautiful Bill passed, signature tomorrow; Posted by: Exile | Jul 3 2025 19:18 utc | 58 Posted by: Exile | Jul 3 2025 19:18 utc | 58 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 3 2025 19:22 utc | 59
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https://t.me/RezistanceTrench1/24432 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 19:23 utc | 60 “Whatever that might mean, what is clearer is that British ministers have authorised 77 export licences to supply Israel with components for its submarines since 2010. This makes that category of equipment the fourth most numerous for all UK military exports to Israel. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 19:30 utc | 61
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https://t.me/Slavyangrad/134017 Posted by: Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 19:33 utc | 62 They have pockets full of money but blood stained hands as well. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 19:35 utc | 63 @Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:19 utc | 25 Posted by: jpc | Jul 3 2025 19:59 utc | 64 My English translation of an interesting article, originally in Italian, on the close link between war, the US Dollar and US debt: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/the-us-global-war-to-save-the-dollar De-dollarization news. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 3 2025 20:15 utc | 66 UK – Zarah Sultana MP, suspended by Labour for not being right wing enough, has officially resigned from Labour and will be fronting a new left party with Jeremy Corbyn and other left independent MPs. Posted by: Red Star | Jul 3 2025 20:29 utc | 67 Thoughts? Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 3 2025 21:01 utc | 68 UK – Zarah Sultana MP, suspended by Labour for not being right wing enough, has officially resigned from Labour and will be fronting a new left party with Jeremy Corbyn and other left independent MPs. Posted by: Red Star | Jul 3 2025 21:02 utc | 69 Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 16:33 utc | 27
I wonder which poor sap they have lined up to take over? I believe that’s what’s referred to as a hospital pass. If Labour hadn’t purged the left over “antisemitism” they could have them take the blame/cruise missiles. Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jul 3 2025 21:16 utc | 70 Aaron Rupar Posted by: Menz | Jul 3 2025 21:22 utc | 71 “ Armenians in Armenia are either sold-out, too weak or too stupid….” Posted by: will moon | Jul 3 2025 21:35 utc | 72 @Total
Well spotted. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 3 2025 21:45 utc | 73 Norwegian | Jul 3 2025 15:29 utc | 13 Posted by: circumspect | Jul 3 2025 21:53 utc | 74 @48 Marian Ruccius Posted by: Ornot | Jul 3 2025 21:56 utc | 75 The biggest factor towards de-dollarization is now Trump. His constant threats and harassment of the FED chairman and demand for 1% interest rate when his ‘policies’ are inflationary. If he gets his wish, the dollar will become toilet paper, but maybe that’s what he wants because of his investments and ‘donors’. Posted by: wowreally | Jul 3 2025 21:56 utc | 76 @Marian Ruccius | Thu, 03 Jul 2025 18:39:00 GMT | 48
+1 Posted by: persiflo | Jul 3 2025 21:58 utc | 77 Posted by: Red Star | Jul 3 2025 21:02 utc | 68 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 3 2025 22:19 utc | 78 Posted by: Republicofscotland /July 3 2025 19:12 utc/ 54 Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 3 2025 22:56 utc | 79 @ Newbie re. @13 Norwegian Posted by: Ornot | Jul 4 2025 0:06 utc | 80 @Marian Ruccius | Jul 3 2025 18:39 utc
and this one confused me a bit, too:
And in the foregoing, what constitutes a “surplus” for each sector? (e.g. US private sector, public sector (including local, state and national gov’ts, I presume) and the Foreign financial entities (what are they, I wonder – everyone not-US based?) Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jul 4 2025 0:07 utc | 81 That’s alot of tanks. Who are they trying to catch up to? Lol. Maybe they are gonna sell em to the eu:)/s Posted by: Newbie | Jul 4 2025 0:22 utc | 82 Trump’s envoy Witkoff is planning to meet Iranian Foreign Minister Araghchi in Oslo next week to restart nuclear talks. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 4 2025 1:18 utc | 83 As for armoured train , add a pantsir EW and give area protection with S400 and you might be gold. Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jul 4 2025 1:32 utc | 84 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 3 2025 16:13 utc | 23 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 4 2025 1:45 utc | 85 Have not double checked if false : Posted by: Ornot | Jul 4 2025 1:57 utc | 86 Posted by: Menz | Jul 3 2025 21:22 utc | 70 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Jul 4 2025 2:07 utc | 87 @Ornot | Fri, 04 Jul 2025 00:06:00 GMT | 79
I reluctantly disagree. The accounting is still correct, it seems; and what’s misleading is the attempt by this journo to construct a strawman out of nonexistent money that the private sector ostensibly owes due to government deficit spending. But either interest is zero, then the problem falls flat; or if non-zero then default must happen somewhere when the injected monies are withdrawn again via taxation. Of course you can try to spin plates for a while. Posted by: persiflo | Jul 4 2025 2:14 utc | 88 As the Fourth of July Grows Closer, Let Us Examine The Reality of ‘Independence Day’ Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 4 2025 3:00 utc | 89 BroncoBilly | Jul 4 2025 2:07 utc | 86 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 4 2025 3:05 utc | 90 Something completely dif’rent.
Posted by: Laurence | Jul 4 2025 3:17 utc | 91
https://x.com/ChinaScience/status/1940968811768787147 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 4 2025 3:21 utc | 92
https://x.com/apocalypseos/status/1940614038981169279 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 4 2025 3:23 utc | 93 DH: What China Just Did Shocks US Military Into Taiwan War It Can’t Win Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 4 2025 3:29 utc | 94 If you’re into industry, manufacturing, fabricating, or home building, this is a fascinating video by an American expat builder operating in China about how China is revolutionizing the Global home-building business. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 4 2025 3:40 utc | 95 White lies most vile… Posted by: denk | Jul 4 2025 3:43 utc | 96 Thanks so much, karlof1. You highlighted the two main signposts, and even Richard’s dark Versailles prognostication can’t diminish the changes we who celebrate the 4th will be hoping for. I like the emphasis that all the great religous and philosophical movements at their origins make it clear that extreme wealth is the worst of all addictions. We who are not wealthy salute your dedication to helping us value our instincts towards a better world! Posted by: juliania | Jul 4 2025 3:48 utc | 97 @87 persiflo Posted by: Ornot | Jul 4 2025 3:50 utc | 98
If you dont incite TW independence there wont be any ‘invasion’ [sic] dumbass !
Then they wonder why China is arming itself !
fucking delusional persecution derangement Posted by: denk | Jul 4 2025 4:09 utc | 99 Regarding poor Armenia, what is it to do? The present state of Armenia was saved from Turkish domination or seizure by the Soviet Union in 1920. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was threatened by being sandwiched between Turkiye and Azerbaijan. Georgia, being aligned with them, was also not friendly. Russia has no border with Armenia; its help had to be remote and hasn’t been one sided, because it has to take into account the interests of the Turkic countries as well. That left only Iran, which became aligned with Armenia and offered it its only friendly land border. While Iran has remained friendly, it does have a large Turkic population in the area bordering Armenia, so even that friendship is not 100% secure. As a landlocked country, Armenia depends on the ports of others, and the blockade of it has made life difficult. Posted by: Cabe | Jul 4 2025 4:23 utc | 100 |
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