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July 4, 2025
CIA: Our Trump-Russiagate Claims Were Corrupt, Our Claims On Iran Are …

The CIA has published a 'tradecraft review' of the 2016 'Intelligence Community Assessment' which had claimed that Russia had interfered in the 2016 presidential election.

The review found what had been obvious to anyone. The 2016 assessment had not followed the normal process for such papers but had based its conclusions on no or insignificant evidence.

Or, as the NY Post headlines: Obama’s Trump-Russia collusion report was corrupt from start

A bombshell new CIA review of the Obama administration’s spy agencies’ assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to help Donald Trump was deliberately corrupted by then-CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, who were “excessively involved” in its drafting, and rushed its completion in a “chaotic,” “atypical” and “markedly unconventional” process that raised questions of a “potential political motive.”

Further, Brennan’s decision to include the discredited Steele dossier, over the objections of the CIA’s most senior Russia experts, “undermined the credibility” of the assessment.

At that time the ICE was leaked to various media outlets. It was finally published shortly before Trump's first inauguration.

As I wrote at that time:

Up to today there is no public evidence that Russia hacked the Democratic National Council and/or released DNC material to Wikileaks. After today's new intelligence report (pdf) there is still no such evidence. … There are rather wild assertions and a lot of conjecture but zero facts that could be accepted as proof.

When I wrote the above on January 6 2017 I tried to set it the story into the bigger picture:

When Hillary Clinton was defeated in the U.S. presidential election the relevant powers launched a campaign to delegitimize the President elect Donald Trump.

The ultimate aim of the cabal is to kick him out of office and have a reliable replacement, like the Vice-President elect Pence, take over. Should that not be possible it is hoped that the delegitimization will make it impossible for Trump to change major policy trajectories especially in foreign policy. A main issue here is the reorientation of the U.S. military complex and its NATO proxies from the war of terror towards a direct confrontation with main powers like Russia and China.

The cabal consists of President Obama, the defeated candidate Hillary Clinton, neoconservatves like the State Department's cookie dispenser Victoria Nuland, the Republican senators McCain and Lindsay and the military-industrial complex. (One of the few neocons planted near to Trump, former CIA director James Woolsey, threw the towel today and left the Trump transition team.)

A major role in directing the plot has fallen to Obama's consigliere John Brennan, the current director of the CIA. Another role has been delegated to the various military and NATO think tanks like the Atlantic Council and the British RUSI and reliable proxies within the media.

The current emphasis of the campaign is on the release of emails and papers from the Clinton campaign through Wikileaks. It is alleged that some releases were gained through hacking, planned and executed by the Russian government. Trump had announced that he plans to seek good relations with Russia, the power that the cabal had earlier chosen as the new enemy de jour.

But there is a problem. There is no real evidence that a "hack" ever happened. There is no evidence that Russia is involved. None at all.

The whole scheme, supported by the made up 'Intelligence Community Assessment', was used to, more or less, sabotage Donald Trump's first two years as president.

It also helped to create negative sentiment against all things Russia. This was revenge for Russia's disruption of U.S. plans for Ukraine. It had taken Crimea, the big prize the 2014 coup plotters had hoped to gain, off the table. The negative sentiment against Russia, especially from Democrats, has prevailed since.

That the CIA, under Director John Ratcliffe, is now condemning the 2016 Intelligence Community Assessment as shady does not mean that he is willing to apply the lessons learned from its faulty creation to today's intelligence products.

He will, just like then CIA Director John Brennan, fake anything that is needed to support his and his presidents policies. Just look at this from the day before Trump ordered bombing Iran:

CIA Director John Ratcliffe reportedly told the White House that Iran is nearing the technical threshold for a weapon. White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt echoed this, saying Iran needs only a political decision to begin building a bomb, which could take as little as two weeks.

Some US officials cite “Israeli” intelligence, particularly Mossad’s estimate that Iran is just 15 days away from producing a bomb.

However, others within the American intelligence community challenge that timeline, maintaining that Iran would likely need several months to a year to complete a functional weapon.

Ratcliffe was clearly bullshitting when he repeated the Mossad claims in the White House. Just like he was bullshitting when he later asserted that Iran's program has been set back for years.

All claims made by 'Intelligence Agencies', independent of having been made in 2016, 2025 or in the future, have be taken with huge loads of salts. Intelligence claims are made to support policies, not because they are truthful. 

Comments

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 4 2025 17:47 utc | 55
This. Run ad infinitum on any platform that will have you.

Posted by: Digital Spartacus | Jul 4 2025 22:14 utc | 101

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 4 2025 22:08 utc | 99
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What would superpower Russia have to gain from normalizing with Nazis?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 4 2025 22:15 utc | 102

The People’s Enemy remains the same, but its control is much greater to the point where revolt is the only likely solution.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2025 22:07 utc | 97
The same, but a bit different. Israel didn’t exist back then and Zionists were a fringe sect with no real power. 145 years ago, a waspy protestant elite was in firm command of “its” country. Today, it is at least a legitimate to ask whether Israel has so infiltrated the host that it is now making all major decisions for the dead on its feet empire.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 22:22 utc | 103

It was the Establishment (media, deep state, and alphabet agencies) that broke character in the kayfabe

“nouninformal•US
noun: kayfabe
(in professional wrestling) the fact or convention of presenting staged performances as genuine or authentic.” –Google
In other words, they out-heeled the heel. Personally, it were the `serious decisions’ made by the `Obama’ administration that broke character. Hope and Change went for a dump in Act I and went tits up with Obama’s address to the UN.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 4 2025 22:23 utc | 104

Posted by: rgl | Jul 4 2025 22:08 utc | 98
Good analysis, thanks

Posted by: canuk | Jul 4 2025 22:29 utc | 105

All so dont lets fofget how maginsky was doing his best to stir up trouble between the west and Russia.
He played his part. So Putin/Russia would have bedn in no doubt ‘glasnost was over and thd western sharks sere liraily circyling Russia.
The SMO was not unprovoked as the west pols and media would have us beleave.
Inevatable, predictable and entirely of the west’s creation.
Siding with trump or biden is just plain infantile.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 4 2025 22:31 utc | 106

“It’s rather simple: In 2014, Trump beat the more profoundly corrupt liar and in 2024 lied his way back into office..”
Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2025 22:07 utc | 97
With all due respect you are too well read to be so ‘simple’; your TDS distorts your usually fine mind.
‘Money power’ has been around for more than 145 years-its been around in one form or another since the the first human tribes formed 100,000 years ago.

Posted by: canuk | Jul 4 2025 22:33 utc | 107

Sorry for typos
That was unreadable.
Time to stop.
Good night all.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 4 2025 22:35 utc | 108

Posted by: duck n cover | Jul 4 2025 18:14 utc | 60
“Truly one of the worst analogies I’ve heard.”
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 20:44 utc | 80
It is difficult to comment on such an awkward analogy; perhaps Mr. duck n cover could present his counter ideas as facts rather than relying on awkward and mystifying football analogies?

Posted by: canuk | Jul 4 2025 22:38 utc | 109

“Every.
Single.
Time.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 4 2025 20:37 utc | 78
I agree.
Every single time your overwrought, chronic themes are but simplistic, arrogant bullshit

Posted by: canuk | Jul 4 2025 22:41 utc | 110

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 4 2025 19:45 utc | 73
Your ignorance of general, traditional moral practices in the humanities clearly illustrate your basic, ‘Intellectual Barbarity’. (‘IB’,TM)

Posted by: canuk | Jul 4 2025 22:45 utc | 111

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 4 2025 21:11 utc | 85
Sorry, but I expect that Russia will care about its citizens. If only to debunk the novitchok false claim.

Posted by: Naive | Jul 4 2025 22:53 utc | 112

Posted by: Passerby | Jul 4 2025 22:08 utc | 99
What make you think that nato will still exist in 2075?

Posted by: Naive | Jul 4 2025 22:54 utc | 113

the “They” wanted Trump to beat Hillary. That’s why they fabricated the Russian collusion, accused him of raping 17 women, got all celebrities to call him a nazi, downplayed and ignored Hillarys wilileaks emails and told the world Hillary was going to win, was the most qualified candidate in history. I cant believe you fools think they wanted Hillary to win. If they wanted her to win they would have hammered whitewater every might, lambasted her daily for benghazi, and questioned ever night why soany of her friends committed suicide, not toention her campaign manager john podesta saying to get the “wet works” for the “leaker” they had discovered, all this while telling us Trump was clearly going to win, the most qualified candidate in history, and a champion for the poor and homeless, and all celebrities would be lining up to get selfies with him to post to their twitters.
Duh, ots called “trauma bonding”, obvious kayfabe, so simple, cant believe you people think tne “they” wanted hillary to win. It’s so simple, bit would take a book to explain the super double reverse psychology kabuki played on all you fools.
Jinn and LoveDonbass are just too smart to fall for thos obvious complex plot, men can have periods, and as long as you say you are a woman, you are, and the sky identifies as magenta with yellow polka dots now.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 4 2025 23:00 utc | 114

‘Defence’ employment is roughly 10 percent of the labour market in america. Approximately 34 million employees/voters. Cut back on that and you start to lose votes. A lot of votes. This is why senators fight tooth and nail to keep production alive in their prospective states. Bring spending down to a reasonable level, and a lot of politicians would be out of office.
All those war toys america builds need to be expended in order to be replaced and keep the conveyor belt running. This is a very big reason why america fights wars all over the planet. america would be an entirely different animal if ‘defence’ spending actually concerned itself with the actual defence of america.
Posted by: rgl | Jul 4 2025 22:08 utc | 98

[I opted for a long quote because its post was on a different page.]
I agree, but perhaps a more fundamental reason to keep the war racket going is to maintain our standard of living, which largely rests on the threat of force (whether economic or military) against other countries. I doubt most of the US electorate would react well to having to pay twice as much for clothes, hardware, or other goods that had been coming from countries where workers earn far less than they do here. But most of us of course don’t see ourselves as the world’s exploiters, although I think that about sums up who we are.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 4 2025 23:08 utc | 115

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 4 2025 23:00 utc | 114
That’s kind of a queer comment, UW. Maybe a little more explanation?
As for Hillary, yes, most of the ruling class, Hollywood, intelligence agencies, the Pentagon and Union stooges wanted her to win. Don’t believe me? Look at how much was donated to her campaign and who donated. Wall Street overwhelmingly wanted Hillary, with a few notable exceptions. It was going to be Obama for the ladies. A perfect political con. You don’t like her policies? You’re a fucking misogynist.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 23:11 utc | 116

‘Defence’ employment is roughly 10 percent of the labour market in america. . . .
Posted by: rgl | Jul 4 2025 22:08 utc | 98
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I recall back in the Reagan era “defense”-related spending was already 10% of the economy. That is, 10% of the GDP was generated directly or indirectly by “defense” spending.
The method of measurement methodology may have been different from the current metrics.

Posted by: Jane | Jul 4 2025 23:17 utc | 117

Naive @ 112
Old man skriple was a traitor. Spying for the west. I expect Putin or Russia would’nt care.
Nalvany did’nt get much compassion now did he.
Alternativly maybe Yulia may have been ghosted back to Russia in secret face saving exchange.
Thats most likly given the prisoner exchainges we see dispite the hostilitys.
But it is irelivant and dose not matter,
What matters is trump’s unpredictabilty and psychopathic tendences.
See Gaza.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 4 2025 23:19 utc | 118

Gruff aka Uwdude
Dont take the piss.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 4 2025 23:25 utc | 119

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 23:11 utc | 116
Poe’s Law

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 4 2025 23:27 utc | 120

Canuck @24. Sure, agree. [It’s ‘interdictable’, not ‘indictable’…]

Posted by: mjh | Jul 4 2025 23:34 utc | 121

I don’t claim to have the analytical insight of b & others, but the outrageous nature of this farce was obvious from the beginning, as I wrote then in my now much neglected blog, Hatuey’sAshes:
The Russian White House Coup … and what Karl Marx has to do with it
https://hatueysashes.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-russian-white-house-coup-and-what.html
The Russian election hack: bullshit
https://hatueysashes.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-russian-election-hack-bullshit.html
José

Posted by: jgperez | Jul 4 2025 23:34 utc | 122

Posted by: john | Jul 4 2025 17:03 utc | 41

Article III Section 3 Treason
Clause 1 Meaning
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
Clause 2 Punishment
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-3/section-3/
It’s obvious that most people ranting about treason know nothing of the Constitution. It is almost invariably (I know of no exceptions actually) the case that only dirty little hypocrites grinding a partisan axe rant about treason. It was true of the Republicans ranting about Hillary, Ben GHazi, Clinton Ca$h, emails, Mena airport, John Vincent Foster. It was true of accusations of Chinese interference in B. Clinton’s election. It was true in every Red Scare. It was true when the Alien and Sedition Acts (including the Alien Enemies Act) or the Espionage Act were passed. All we really learn is the ranting asshole deems pretty much everyone an enemy at all times. Two witnesses or a state of war, who cares? That’s only the Constitution. I advocate replacing the Constitution, but a fart from a random asshole is not a replacement.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 4 2025 23:40 utc | 123

If/when he does, what will happen?
Always examine your premises.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jul 4 2025 22:13 utc | 100

Ok, I would expect one of two things to happen. Either there is evidence on the laptops, in the files or logs, that Seth was Wikileaks’ source for the DNC files or there isn’t.
If there isn’t anything interesting on either machine then one has to wonder why the FBI tried to block the release for so long. There’s a little more here, but no smoking gun. The judge in the case offered to look at the files or to appoint a special reviewer to look at them to see if there was anything worthy of note, but the FBI refused that option because it would create sealed records and they couldn’t be sure that those records would never be unsealed. The FBI claimed if the files were ever unsealed it would do irreparable harm to the FBI, it’s methods, etc., while simultaneously arguing that they are pretty sure that there is nothing on the laptops worthy of note. They are only pretty sure because they haven’t really looked…
While that option looks fishy as hell, it is basically a nothing burger. There’s no smoking gun, just your average couple dozen fishy coincidences. Me, the 9/11 truth crowd, and the JFK conspiracy crowd have one more fishy story to tell, but it doesn’t move any needles in politics.
The other option, that there are files that do confirm Seth was the source is explosive. If Seth downloaded the files, then sent them to Wikileaks, and then died under mysterious circumstances before the DNC and Crowdstrike claim the ‘Russian hack’ happened it puts the TLAs and the MSM, that slavishly reported their unsourced claims as facts, in a very tricky position. They have to credibly explain how this interesting new development fits into the crumbling Russiagate narrative.
The key word here is ‘credibly.’ Sure, they could claim that Seth was a Russian asset and he died before he could deliver the files. I know some blue hairs who would believe that, but everyone else would balk at it. It would mean that somehow, despite 8+ years of the most severe scrutiny from two different admininstrations with opposing objectives, no one saw anything in either case that indicated that there might be a connection between the two and the FBI blocked anyone from looking at the Seth Rich side for years despite claiming it was just a botched robbery, in which case the DC police should have possession of the laptops.
This isn’t just the TLAs making up some bs about WMDs to invade Iraq. A lot of people were unhappy about that, but the TLAs openly fabricating a bs narrative and the MSM running the story at max volume for over two years is a different matter. Trump would be completely vindicated because there objectively was a deep state witchhunt against him the ‘fake news,’ now objectively verified, was in on it. Well, either in on it or unbelievably incompetent, I’m not sure which looks worse for them.
To Americans the whole thing would be about as credible as OJ Simpson ending his car chase at a bank. Running in to deposit a glove in his safety box. Fighting any efforts to access the safety deposit box. Then claiming that he only dropped off some trading cards because he didn’t want them confiscated and that the glove with the blood on it wasn’t his, had been there for years, didn’t fit anyways, etc.
If I’m missing something or reading this wrong, by all means, I’d love to hear other people’s thoughts.

Posted by: team10tim | Jul 4 2025 23:46 utc | 124

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 23:11 utc | 116
Poe’s Law
Posted by: UWDude | Jul 4 2025 23:27 utc | 120
Interesting. I’d never heard of that.
Admittedly, some of the online satire just goes right over my head. I lit Sean the Leprechaun on fire once for his satire and felt the need to apologize.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 23:52 utc | 125

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 23:11 utc | 116
The 2016 election was rigged.
Evidence:
https://tdmsresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/2016-Presidential-Election-Final-Table.jpg

Posted by: Naive | Jul 4 2025 23:58 utc | 126

Btw, where is Steve Pieczenik?
https://stevepieczenik.com/2021/10/22/oct-22-2021-war-room-w-guest-host-kristi-leigh-2/
2021…

Posted by: Naive | Jul 5 2025 0:02 utc | 127

The faction backing Trump during Trump 1.0 was a small minority. They saw China as the main ‘threat’ and wanted to attack China, not Russia. The majority wanted to attack and destroy Russia first then China.Power in the US is divided between the judiciary, the congress and the whitehouse, though the true seat of power is the CIA.
Because of hat, the first Trump presidency was a lame duck presidency. With their defeat in the war against Russia, the majority have now swung to the nationalist side and this presidential term is not lame duck.
Many now on the nationalist side would also have been involved in Russiagate.
We now see the US separating to an extent from Europe and the Brits. They are still fixated on Russia while the Americans are moving to control strategic energy and shipping choke points as part of the war on China.
They have Panama in the bag and most of the Persian gulf energy region. Iran and Yemen though still control two of the worlds most important choke point. Then there is the northern route which has now opened.
The US nuke sub base in Fremantle is to interdict shipping in the Indian ocean Indonesia has signed a strategic partnership with Russia, also many major deals with China. With that, the Americans can no longer contain Chinese shipping close to China. MacArthur’s first Island chain will now quickly collapse.
I believe the northern sea route is virtually all on Russia’s continental shelf and as such, too shallow for nuclear sub operations. The American are build ‘coast guard’ ice breakers for operation in the arctic.
I read some years back that the Brits were to Run the European war against Russia while the Americans focussed on China. Although I have read nothing more about that, that is what is now occurring.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 5 2025 0:06 utc | 128

Man typos in the last post but hopefully still readable.
Just one thing to add. The Russians see this fault line between the US and Europe/Britain and are working on that. Driving wedges in wherever possible. Playing the anglo’s at their own game – divide and conquer.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 5 2025 0:17 utc | 129

“Canuck @24. Sure, agree. [It’s ‘interdictable’, not ‘indictable’…]”
Posted by: mjh | Jul 4 2025 23:34 utc | 121
Thank you for the correction.

Posted by: canuk | Jul 5 2025 0:21 utc | 130

The title of the OP and the last two sentences tell us we should no more believe the claims that the original report was nothing but a political hatchet job than we should have believed the original. It is puzzling that our host feels it necessary to repeat nonsense from one of his older posts. The claim that Pence was a reliable Democrat is astonishing, for one. The notion that there were few so-called neocons planted near Trump is surprising, even given the marvelous flexibility of the term. The excuse for Trump’s first term, the alleged effects of the so-called Russiagate scandal in preventing him from carrying out his supposed campaign is exactly like the evidence that Russia hacked the DNC emails: Nonexistent. That’s an assertion, not a fact, intended as Trump apologetics so far as I can tell. Trump successfully cut taxes on the rich. Trump’s military budget feeds the MIC even bigger. Decreeing that the MIC was part of some cabal to undercut Trump is an embarrassment for our host, so much so I wouldn’t have wanted to make such a confession. Kudos to our host for admission against interest? I’m not sure why it was ever assumed Clinton and Obama were ever genuine friends, rather than a truce. The probability that there were just as many hysterical enemies apt to spread stupid conspiracy theories back then, well, when I read too many MoA comments, I can understand wanting to ignore that completely. Personally I thought aspirations to carve up that gas station with nukes explained all the negativity required, globalist treason not a necessary hypothesis at all.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 5 2025 0:25 utc | 131

Ornot | Jul 4 2025 18:58 utc | 68
NO such alert on the embassys website…
U.S. Embassy in Azerbaijan

Posted by: circumspect | Jul 5 2025 0:31 utc | 132

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 4 2025 22:07 utc | 97 Despite a great admiration for Kolko’s work, I do have to point out that the Triumph of Conservatism was…McKinley. From what I remember from reading Triumph from fifty years ago, my best guess is that what is true is that a successful reform of capitalism is still the preservation of capitalism. There are very few people who believe that the continued existence of capitalism in itself conservatism.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 5 2025 0:33 utc | 133

Trotskyism is the most insidious defense of imperialism!

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 5 2025 0:34 utc | 134

canuk | Jul 4 2025 22:45 utc | 111
lol Your idiotic psychobabble is only exceeded by your juvenile conceits.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 5 2025 0:48 utc | 135

It makes perfect sense for the Biden admin to drag things out like this, but why is Trump’s FBI doing it?
Posted by: team10tim | Jul 4 2025 16:45 utc | 36
Perhaps for the same reason that the Epstein files are still under wraps, despite fElon’s frequent missives about them?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 0:50 utc | 136

Posted by: rgl | Jul 4 2025 22:08 utc | 98
This misses the actual timeline by weeks to months.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 0:51 utc | 137

What a beautiful world it would be if deliberate lies and deception weren’t always used to get the edge on everyone else often for illusory gains.

Posted by: George | Jul 5 2025 0:57 utc | 138

Posted by: Naive | Jul 4 2025 23:58 utc | 126
So were the 2000 and 2004 elections. But only fools (or rich people & immigrants) think elections matter.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 0:57 utc | 139

@132 circumspect
That is what I had said …
“without obvious official corroberation at embassy site”
It is just strange to watch the ‘notification’ expand. Yesterday it appeared on a telegram channel feed , so I searched for other mentions and nothing. Then this morning there were several versions around. Those could just be bots or authors not checking source etc.
On the embassy site there is a longer standing “leave Iran” via Azerbaijan, and a Level 4 alert for a border region in Azerbaijan. Nothing about evacuating Azerbaijan though.
I considered possibly a misread of above info somewhere. It is possibly also some kind of psyop to bounce around the fast info sphere, or to prep or destabilise.
I don’t know, but it has an odd feeling associated i.e. purposeful, and with the sheer quantity of info going around at present, many being on edge, and the extremes of events and associated news , it would easily be taken as a reality by many (non US) without question.
Just odd … cannot figure it :-/

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 5 2025 0:58 utc | 140

Spying on Iran: How MI6 infiltrated the IAEA
https://nitter.net/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1940107711750054187
Leaked confidential files indicate the International Atomic Energy Agency was infiltrated by a veteran British spy who has claimed credit for sanctions on Iran. The documents lend weight to the Islamic Republic’s accusation that the nuclear watchdog secretly colluded with its enemies.

The agent, Nicholas Langman, is a veteran intelligence operative who claims credit for helping engineer the West’s economic war on Iran.
Langman’s identity first surfaced in journalistic accounts of his role in deflecting accusations that British intelligence played a role in the death of Princess Diana.
He was later accused by Greek authorities of overseeing the abduction and torture of Pakistani migrants in Athens.
In both cases, UK authorities issued censorship orders forbidding the press from publishing his name.
But Greek media, which was under no such obligation, confirmed that Langman was one of the MI6 assets withdrawn from Britain’s embassy in Athens.
The Grayzone discovered the résumé of the journeyman British operative in a trove of leaked papers detailing the activities of Torchlight, a prolific British intelligence cutout.
The bio of the longtime MI6 officer reveals he “led large, inter-agency teams to identify and defeat the spread of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons technology, including by innovative technical means and sanctions.” 
In particular, the MI6 agent says he “worked to prevent WMD proliferation through… support for the [IAEA] and Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons [OPCW] and through high level international partnerships.”
Langman’s CV credits him with playing a major role in organizing the sanctions regime on Iran by “[building] highly effective and mutually supportive relations across government and with senior US, European, Middle and Far Eastern colleagues for strategy” between 2010 and 2012.
He boasts in his bio that this achievement “enabled [the] major diplomatic success of [the] Iranian nuclear and sanctions agreement.” 
The influence Langman claimed to have exerted on the IAEA adds weight to Iranian allegations that the international nuclear regulation body colluded with the West and Israel to undermine its sovereignty.
The Iranian government has alleged that the IAEA supplied the identities of its top nuclear scientists to Israeli intelligence, enabling their assassinations, and provided critical intelligence to the US and Israel on the nuclear facilities they bombed during their military assault this June.
This June 12, under the direction of its Secretary General Rafael Grossi, the IAEA issued a clearly politicized report recycling questionable past allegations to accuse Iran of violating the Non-Proliferation Treaty.
The next day, Israel attacked the country, assassinating nine nuclear scientists as well as numerous top military officials and hundreds of civilians. 
Iranian former Vice President for Strategic Affairs Javad Zarif has since called for the IAEA’s Grossi to be sacked, accusing him of having “abetted the slaughter of innocents in the country.”
This June 28, the Iranian government broke ties with the IAEA, refusing to allow its inspectors into the country. 
While Iranian officials may have had no idea about the involvement of a shadowy figure like Langman in IAEA business, it would likely come as little surprise to Tehran that the supposedly multilateral agency had been compromised by a Western intelligence agency.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:08 utc | 141

Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:08 utc | 141
UN has ended. Baerbok elected head of the UNGA. A braindead bimbo with nothing but a nazi past.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jul 5 2025 1:12 utc | 142

Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 0:50 utc | 136
Elon is just lucky he’s too young and wasn’t on that particular kompromat network radar. A bi older and a bit better connected at the time…. He’d be right there on Little St James/ Lolita Island.
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Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 23:11 utc | 116
It was Her Turn. The deal was 8 years Obama and then HRC. She’d done ticking the boxes… SoS, Senator NY, she’d grafted, grafted and now she expected to be gifted the historic FirstFemalePresidentoftheUnitedStatesOfAmerica. She would forever be in the history books. And if you think she wanted Kamel Ho to have that…
At some point just after Biden was forced out of the nomination she popped up..and the Observant Class noted: She’s Running Again. But she was 4 years older, and her corruption via RussiaRussiaRussia was wafer thin below the surface. Her Turn had come and she’d swung and missed..
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And to link Epstein. Everyone knew Bill had flown Lolita Express 30+ times. And she too had been to the Island

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:21 utc | 143

Ahenobarbus | Jul 4 2025 22:22 utc | 103
145 years ago, a waspy protestant elite was in firm command of “its” country
You think those camouflaged as “Protestants” weren’t jewish|zionist ? Most were Freemasons, and that cloaked a lot of jewish-zionism.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:25 utc | 144

Mark2 | Jul 4 2025 22:31 utc | 106
Maginsky. Bill Browder is STILL active. At one point the YT algorithm insisted on feeding me his vids.
Browder is tireless in his hatred of Putin and ceaseless in working behind the scenes to destroy U$UK Russian relations

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:30 utc | 145

CTV News
Trump eyes simple tariff rates over complex talks, says letters going out Friday
8 hours ago
By David Lawder & Andrea Shalal.
An MA to canuk for readings from The Giant Book of Insults or similar tome.

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 5 2025 1:30 utc | 146

Pompeo: July 2_ “Ukraine has never asked America to send in the 82nd airborne; they’ve asked for the weapons to defend their homeland and people from Russia attacks.
Letting Russia win this war would be a unmitigated disaster for the American people and our security around the world.”
>… Seth Harp__”We literally sent the 82nd Airborne, in 2022, to Poland.
We emptied our arsenals and stockpiles of munitions and sent it all to Ukraine. Nothing helped to fix the mistake of NATO expansion. Russia won long ago. You stupid fools have lost yet another war. Just accept it.”
https://nitter.net/sethharpesq/status/1940573204474655156

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:30 utc | 147

Xwitter
OSINTdefender:
Multiple fires seen burning across the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv earlier tonight, after Russia launched a major missile and drone attack against the city, once again primarily targeting residential buildings and civil infrastructure, with the attack occurring less than 24 hours after a phone call between U.S. President Donald J. Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
§| According to Axios, U.S. Special Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff is planning to meet next week in Oslo, Norway with Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, in order to restart nuclear talks between the two countries following last month’s strikes by the US Air Force and Navy against three nuclear sites in Iran. A key issue in any future talks will be Iran’s stockpile of highly-enriched near-weapons-grade uranium, which includes at least 400 kilograms enriched to 60%
§| Boeing secures $2.8B contract to enhance US strategic SATCOM capabilities This contract includes the development of two satellites, with options for two additional satellites to enhance U.S. nuclear command, control, and communications (NC3) for the U.S. president and joint strategic global forces. https://www.disclose.tv/id/k0h563o5eg/

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:31 utc | 148

Fort Bragg.
So, Ukraine, or nah???
Fort Bragg… isn’t bragging about its deaths… all classified.
>Home of the Army Special Forces
>Home of the Army Rangers
>Home of the Army Airborne training
Source: https://nitter.net/sethharpesq

Two years later, after much litigation, the Army finally discloses that another FIFTY-ONE soldiers died at Fort Bragg in 2023, far more than any other military base. How is that possible? The public is no longer authorized to know. All the circumstances of death are now redacted.

Trawled from comments on The Internet:
§| 51 Soldiers died at Fort Bragg in 2023. All causes of death retracted.
> Deaths exceed any other military base.
Sample example: redaction of box 4(f), making it impossible to identify how “soldier from the “1st Information Op Command” died, except that it’s officially categorized as an accident, as are 15 others, exceeding previous records for
accidents recorded in one year
And this soldier received a “posthumous promotion”… why? for what?
https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FGu8EOmrWUAAYjoL.jpg
—-
Q: how does an experienced soldier like Joseph Nicholas Figueroa die on base?
Obit:

Figueroa. 37 of Ashburn, Virginia died on Saturday, April 29, 2023, in Southern Pines, North Carolina.
Born Saturday, April 19, 1986, in Pequannock, New Jersey, he was the son of Bill Shappell and Toni DeLalla Shappell and the beloved husband of Marie Figueroa.
Joseph was a loving father and husband who enjoyed spending time with his family hiking, exploring parks, playing ball in the yard, helping with homework and traveling to the beach for vacation. He took pride in raising his sons and his dreams for their future.
>Joseph dedicated his life to the service of his Country.
As a committed leader and decorated Soldier of over fourteen years, Joseph exemplified unwavering achievement and bravery in service to the United States of America.
He was a combat veteran deployed seven times to Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Somalia.
The US Army recognized Joseph for his honorable service with two Bronze Star Medals, a Joint Service Commendation Medal, three Army Commendation Medals, and four Army Achievement Medals.
Joseph leaves behind many to cherish his memory including his wife, Marie, sons Anthony Figueroa, Marcello Figueroa, and Phoenix Feenan, ex-wife Tasha Feenan, brother George Figueroa and parents Toni and Bill Shappell.
A funeral service with Military Honors and reception to follow will be held at Ft. Belvoir Chapel (Tulley Gate), in Virginia on May 18, 2023, at 1:00pm

Conjecture from random guys on the internet:…
Figueroa was 37f.. that’s psyops. So? Black ops gone bad ?
> typically military have covered black ops deaths as training accidents since forever
>…why do you get a posthumous promotion for dying during training? Sounds like someone did some shit during a mission and got killed.
>… Curious if they ever found that Canadian general who went missing at Mariupol. General Trevor Cadieu ?
>… Roger Cloutier.. no sign of him in three years???
>… “son of Bill Shappell and Toni DeLalla Shappell” | “beloved husband of Marie Figueroa”. So he took wifes Spanish surname. Interesting. Trying to hide his background?
>… The increase in deaths in 2023 dies line up with black ops casualties in Ukraine.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:36 utc | 149

Telegram trawl:
Clash Report:
§| Turkish President Erdogan and Iranian President Pezeshkian meet in Azerbaijan.
§| Hegseth halted weapons deliveries to Ukraine despite military analysis that the aid wouldn’t jeopardize U.S. readiness. The decision was made by Hegseth without notifying lawmakers. Source: NBC News
§| Trump Putin call: Trump: I am very disappointed with the conversation with Putin. It seems to me that Putin is simply no longer there. I don’t see that he wants to stop. And that’s very bad — he doesn’t want to end the war.
§| Trump on his call with Putin: We also talked about the war with Ukraine, and I’m not happy about that … I didn’t make any progress with him today at all.
§| Trump Zelensky call: Trump told Zelensky he wants to help with Ukraine’s air defense and that he will check what was put on hold if anything.
Trump also said he was aware of the recent Russia escalation, including both air strikes on Ukrainian cities and on the frontline. Source: Axios
§| Trump: We are giving weapons to Ukraine. We are working with them to try to help them. We have to make sure we have enough for ourselves.
§| Germany is holding “intensive talks” to deliver Patriot air-defense systems to Ukraine. Government spokesman Stefan Kornelius confirmed discussions are underway. Source: Bloomberg
§| Russia attacked Kyiv overnight. The number of injured is at least 19.
§| Ukrainian air defense forces destroyed 478 out of 550 targets overnight. However, 9 missiles and 63 drones struck in 8 locations. {NAFO fiction writers never quit}
§| Syria says it is ready to cooperate with the US to return to the 1974 armistice with Israel. Source: AFP
Syrian Foreign Ministry:
Secretary Rubio assured his Syrian counterpart that the US State Department is working with Congress to repeal the Caesar Act. {such love for Syria now ruled by U$-Israel pet, ISIS}
§| IAEA has pulled its inspectors out of Iran over safety concerns.
Source: WSJ {and good riddance}
§| Macron hopes that the Trump-Zelensky call “will provide all the answers” expected by Kyiv. Source: AFP {macron confirms his irrelevance}
§| Trump’s envoy Witkoff wants to lift energy sanctions on Russia. Source: Politico {Q: Does Russia care?}
§| Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski: In a massive Russian attack on Kyiv, the building of our embassy’s consular section was damaged.
Ukraine urgently needs air defense resources. {Sikorski is the guy who twitted “Thank you USA” as NS2 blew up}
§| Trump: I think a lot of people are going to be joining the Abraham Accords.
We have four great countries already, but we are going to have a lot of people joining the Abraham Accords.
World Pravda
§| Moscow is closely monitoring all of Trump’s statements on Ukraine — Dmitry Peskov
The Kremlin takes all of US President Donald Trump’s statements seriously, including his words about the lack of progress in the Ukrainian conflict, spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
He recalled that Russian President Vladimir Putin, during yesterday’s conversation with Trump, reiterated Moscow’s position – Russia remains committed to achieving the goals of the SMO, preferably through diplomatic means.
§| Sanctions debate leaves White House without a stance
Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff believes that the US should lift energy sanctions on Russia, but there is resistance within the administration, writes Politico.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:40 utc | 150

@ 140 ornot
Cont…
What I don’t understand maybe is that US intel would be monitoring the site I took the original info from. That then appeared on extwitter which is US based and Google search also, both of which are under jurisdiction, would be monitored, and ‘should’ have removed or ‘disinfoed’ false government announcements. Not hard to do.
Instead they seem to let it roll, don’t counter it.
So now it is in the fast aggregate press e.g.
“The US Embassy asks its citizens to leave Azerbaijan immediately.
There is no message about this on the embassy’s website, but various public sites are actively sending out a post about the transfer.”
Подробнее:
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/07/04/the-us-embassy-asks-its-citizens-to-leave-azerbaijan
Or
https://countylocalnews.com/2025/07/04/u-s-embassys-shocking-evacuation-warning-in-azerbaijan-u-s-citizens-travel-advisory-azerbaijan-evacuation-news-baku-safety-alert-2025/
Which US citizens might find very realistic….

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 5 2025 1:45 utc | 151

@ Ornot | Jul 5 2025 1:45 utc | 151
a very short post from you ornot, lol..

Posted by: james | Jul 5 2025 1:47 utc | 152

@151 james
Publicity stunt 🙂
@ 140 ornot
(@141 seems to have eaten my text, have undone the links in this one)
Cont…
What I don’t understand maybe is that US intel would be monitoring the site I took the original info from. That then appeared on extwitter which is US based and Google search also, both of which are under jurisdiction, would be monitored, and ‘should’ have removed or ‘disinfoed’ false government announcements. Not hard to do.
Instead they seem to let it roll, don’t counter it.
So now it is in the fast aggregate press e.g.
“The US Embassy asks its citizens to leave Azerbaijan immediately.
There is no message about this on the embassy’s website, but various public sites are actively sending out a post about the transfer.”
eadaily dot com/en/news/2025/07/04/the-us-embassy-asks-its-citizens-to-leave-azerbaijan
Or
countylocalnews dot com/2025/07/04/u-s-embassys-shocking-evacuation-warning-in-azerbaijan-u-s-citizens-travel-advisory-azerbaijan-evacuation-news-baku-safety-alert-2025/
Which US citizens might find very realistic….

Posted by: Ornot | Jul 5 2025 1:51 utc | 153

Thanks melaleuca @ 145
Yes bill browder, a nasty peace of work indeed.
———–
And thanks for your exelant news feed on up to date and hour developments.
May i add ….
British bbc news today accusses Russia of “useing chemical warfare against uqraine.”
They allege “a form of tear gas is being used to flush ukie solders out of their shelters and trenches to be killed by conventiknal meens”
Is this some sort of july the fourth. Frenze to kid americans america has still got a pulse.
A senseless jesture.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 5 2025 3:07 utc | 154

I am 100% convinced that Trump was in on all of it. I think BOTH parties do a ton of bullshitting, gaslighting, pathological lying, manipulating, exploiting, to keep the US war machine, now at a TRILLION PLUS going, as well as the RICH getting RICHER..
THAT is the major grift.
.I DO wonder how much longer Americans are going to continue to be morons, who believe their LYING politicians!

Posted by: Kay | Jul 5 2025 3:19 utc | 155

Mark2 | Jul 5 2025 3:07 utc | 154
My understanding is the Britz brought the chemicals (or had them manufactured) into Ukraine… Russia bombed the stockpile. Nasty cloud. …. “Russians used chemical weapons…”
The old Saddam shibboleth. We know Saddam has chemical weapons…. We sold them to him…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 3:28 utc | 156

Thomas Keith:

While Israel screams that “Hamas hides in hospitals,” leaked 3D maps from Iranian channels now reveal that Netanyahu himself was holed up beneath Soroka Hospital in Tel Aviv, alongside Israel’s military command.
13 floors above. 4 underground. A full command center, tunnel-linked to the IDF’s war rooms.
During the 12-day war, Israel quietly moved its top brass into this civilian medical facility, the same kind of site it bombs in Gaza while calling it a “terrorist base.” And on June 19, Iranian missiles landed with surgical precision near Soroka.
Every accusation they make is a confession.
https://nitter.net/iwasnevrhere_/status/1941134732277715419

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 3:34 utc | 157

Melaleuca @ 156
Ah ha that makes more sence. Kudos.
Only a few weeks ago they had the buildeberg meeting.
Somethings afoot….
Agenda 21 anyone ?
Was ukraine conflict a trial run ?
An experment as to how to remove an unwanted section of a countrys population ?
Eugenics.
Are we about to see that rolled out over europe, nato, england ?
Speculation i know but it fits.
Maga. Zionism, fascism, and america.
Ect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 5 2025 3:49 utc | 158

NME
Bands start boycotting Radar festival after Bob Vylan removed from line-up

Radar Festival has not yet commented on the decision for The Scratch and ĠENN to back out of the festival, nor have they confirmed a replacement for the slot Bob Vylan were set to play tomorrow night (July 5).

Posted by: Laurence | Jul 5 2025 4:02 utc | 159

Posted by: jgperez | Jul 4 2025 23:34 utc | 122
Weren’t you good buddies with that loser Louis Proyect?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 4:05 utc | 160

We demand the release the Seth Rich files!!! Why hasn’t Trump done this?
Because the important files are in Tel Aviv, not Washington.
The Adelsons were tight with both Netanyahu and Trump and financed their campaigns. Their casinos were very useful in global money laundering operations for Israeli Intelligence and others.
That Seth Rich’s DNC account was used to download the email files is a given. After he was shot, attending nursing staff said he was alert and talking. He was then moved to a secure VIP wing of the hospital, very odd treatment for a lowly DNC staffer who was supposedly shot during a robbery. Staff were told the next day he had died.
I respectfully suggest that he was not killed, but extracted by his handlers and has a nice desk job in Tel Aviv. Anyone seen the autopsy report and death certificate?

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jul 5 2025 4:15 utc | 161

And the two guys who are alleged to have made the hit, were themselves found dead a few days later. And there…. The trail runs cold, because no law enforcement has any interest in solving those deaths….
Posted by: Redrum | Jul 4 2025 17:13 utc | 47
Sorry for the late reply/request, but I missed this before. Does anyone have a link purporting to explain the alleged shooters being offed themselves?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 4:31 utc | 162

CIA: Our Trump-Russiagate Claims Were Corrupt, Our Claims On Iran Are …
The CIA 2016 assessment had not followed the normal process for such papers but had based its conclusions on no or insignificant evidence.
As opposed to claiming: “Attacks On Russia Related Ships Smell Of British / Ukrainian Cooperation”?

Posted by: Stephen Cohen | Jul 5 2025 6:30 utc | 163

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 4 2025 17:29 utc | 52
‘But I have concerns even about the FBI leadership.’

The FBI has been effectively neutered by the ADL and Zionist Jewish Supremacist operatives and their lackeys for decades (largely via the hierarchy within the Justice Dept bureaucracy).
Grant Smith at IRMEP has probably done the most extensive work on this over the years via FOIA requests and other research.
You will notice via the links provided below that it has only gotten worse…to the point where now the ‘ADL defines genocide and civil disobedience within the FBI’ to use Grant’s recent words:
https://irmep.com/2024/02/adl-defines-genocide-and-civil-disobedience-within-the-fbi/
https://www.israellobby.org/ADL/FBI_Basic_Field_Training_Course.PDF
This after the FBI had investigated the ADL for espionage back in the 80’s and 90’s but the files were immediately classified or simply disappeared due to another of the many ‘secret Israeli interventions’ over the years.
https://www.irmep.org/ADLespionage.asp
https://www.israellobby.org/ADL-FBI/
https://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/12/adl-spies/
https://www.irmep.org/prize4spies.htm
https://www.israellobby.org/ADL-CA/
[note here and in other declassified docs that Noam Chomsky is accused of being an ‘Arabist’ but we’ve come to know that Noam ‘if there was a flight (on the Lolita Express) which I doubt’ Chomsky is a Zionist through and through and always has been]:
Noam Chomsky and ‘Left’ Apologetics for Injustice in Palestine:
https://ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/cohenvchomsky.html
https://chomsky.info/20040826/
https://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_11365.shtml

Here is Grant Smith talking about ‘The ADL and the FBI’ and other things on Parallax Views:
https://irmep.com/2022/11/parallax-adl-fbi/
https://x.com/irmep

https://www.justice.gov/doj/federal-bureau-investigation

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 5 2025 6:34 utc | 164

Sorry for the late reply/request, but I missed this before. Does anyone have a link purporting to explain the alleged shooters being offed themselves?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 4:31 utc | 162
a guy named George Webb who does pretty thorough work made a video showing evidence it was two MS 13 gang members, who were found dead a couple weeks later a state away.
But that is all there is.

Posted by: UWDude | Jul 5 2025 6:57 utc | 165

Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 4:31 utc | 162
Jumping in here…. I’ve now read rather than skimmed this thread…. Picking up Re the Seth Rich comments…
Like many, back to the day, I intensely followed the Seth Rich saga… but now have now forgotten some / many of the details.
I used to read conservativetreehouse … “Sundance” was almost autistic obsessive with dismantling RussiaRussiaRussia, with Seth Rich being a major plot narrative.
Maybe look there for details. ?
Your post triggered my mental Seth Rich files… I vaguely remember the guys were Mexican or Central American. ? They were found dead on a beach in Florida? ? And it was dismissed as cartel killings. But someone somehow connected them to Seth Rich. ?
Back in the day there was a whole lot more “out there” about the Seth Rich hit. Like most stuff it’s now been much memoryholed and scrubbed.
I saw a post back at the time Seth’s hit was still A Thing… the claim was he was still alive when taken to the hospital… staff were ordered from the floor and hours later it was announced he’d been DOA (dead on arrival), but the hospital whistle blower said nope.. Seth was alive and “doing ok”, so the person (M or F) was surprised when they came in for their next shift that he’d died.
…~~ ok….. triggered myself now….Decided to see what remains on The Internet re Seth Rich, and I’m surprised more hasn’t been scrubbed….
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2020/12/15/we-need-a-reckoning-crowdsourcing-request-what-do-you-want-to-see-declassified/#more-206111

Report: Murdered DNC Staffer Seth Rich Was in Contact With Wikileaks…
May 15, 2017 | Sundance | 675 Comments
Fox5 is reporting that a private investigator has turned up tangible evidence that murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich was in contact with Wikileaks.  Which further provides more evidence he was most likely the source of the DNC leaks.  The same report points out the FBI have been trying to cover-up the discoveries.
The motive for the leaks was obvious, the collusion within the DNC, specifically with the US media, to eliminate Bernie Sanders as a potential risk to Clinton’s ambitions. If proven accurate this would also further prove “the Russians” had nothing to do with the DNC leaks.  That’s the basis for the entire “muh russian conspiracy” narrative.

Also

IMPORTANT – Video Confirms Butowsky Lawsuit Claim: Julian Assange Told Ellen Ratner DNC Emails Received From Seth Rich – Not a Russian Hack…
July 21, 2019 | Sundance | 430 Comments
A lawsuit filed a week ago by Businessman Ed Butowsky, alleged that Wikileaks founder Julian Assange told Fox News analyst Ellen Ratner the DNC leaked emails were received from Seth Rich and his brother Aaron. [Full Backstory Here]
Due to the scale of ramification, there was some valid skepticism about the Butowsky assertion.  However, recently unearthed footage from Ellen Ratner talking about her visit with Assange in November of 2016 seems to validate what the Butowsky’s lawsuit alleges.
In the video [Full Video Here] taken during a November 9th, 2016, Embry Riddle University symposium, Fox News analyst Ellen Ratner, representing the left, and former Congressman now Fox political analyst John Leboutillier, from the right, discussed the aftermath of the 2016 presidential election. 

George Webb

GEORGE WEBB, LEADING SPEARHEAD OF SETH RICH INVESTIGATION, NAMES SETH RICH MURDER MASTERMIND: ALPHA JALLOH
https://watchcompubs.wordpress.com/2017/05/22/the-seth-rich-revelations-ii-megacompilation/
Source (Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqY2QP-DNaQ
George goes on to elaborate: Alpha Jalloh would hire two MS-13 hitmen to assist him in the murder of Seth Rich.
Consequently, the two MS-13 men were found dead days after Seth Rich’s murder was complete.
Alpha Jalloh is believed to be a Pakistani national who is a member of an international car theft criminal organization, headquartered in New York City and New Jersey.

Both sites have a lot more for those who missed Seth Rich 1.0, or those who want a refresher…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 7:08 utc | 166

……Alpha Jalloh is believed to be a Pakistani national who is a member of an international car theft criminal organization, headquartered in New York City and New Jersey.
That’s triggered *more* recall of shit I’ve read on The Internet…. The car stealing ring was exposed when a plumber from Texas saw ISIS using his truck in Syria … with a machine gun installed on the rear deck.
He knew it was his vehicle, because it still had his name and phone number displayed on the sides…
Questions were raised of how a stolen Texas truck got to ISIS in Syria…. But as the answers became exposed… the investigation was shut down….
Because, as we know, ISIS was a U$-Israeli covert op….
——
Would the people running the ISIS op task their guys to do a double shift in dispatching Seth Rich? Doh! Yeah.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 7:19 utc | 167

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jul 5 2025 4:15 utc | 161
Maybe he’s in Israel or got a new identity.
But IMVHO he’s dead. He was annoying some seriously dangerous people.
For them, a dead guy is a silent guy… no more problems…
And look…. Most people have forgotten… one more unsolved murder is just one more unsolved murder…
A dead guy who might reappear years later… too risky.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 7:23 utc | 168

Seth Rich was beyond mere sayanim. He was IDF and probably trained in intel.
Remember too that Julian Assange was an op/long-term hangout who never released anything that harmed Israel and who never released any files on 9/11. And he actually got angry when he was rather innocently asked about it potentially being a false flag event. This is an alleged truth-teller!
Here is some further info for those so interested:
https://archive.ph/F3RIr#selection-2545.0-2595.14
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_outreach
[ https://archive.ph/qR6lv#selection-591.3-591.57 ]
Seth Rich’s Israeli Military Experience:
https://web.archive.org/web/20171122020206/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83-Iqzn9dbM
Eyewitness: ‘I was there when Seth Rich was shot, they walked him past me, he didn’t even know he was shot, no pain’
The eyewitness said Seth Rich was walked past him and not in pain when he was removed from the crime scene by police:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170616042048/https://www.intellihub.com/eyewitness-i-was-there-when-seth-rich-was-shot-they-walked-him-past-me-he-didnt-even-know-he-was-shot-no-pain/
WikiLeaks offers reward for help finding DNC staffer’s killer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/wikileaks-offers-reward-in-killing-of-dnc-staffer-in-washington/2016/08/09/f84fcbf4-5e5b-11e6-8e45-477372e89d78_story.html
Parents of murdered Jewish DNC staffer turn to public for help
Police up reward for information leading to Seth Rich’s killers to $125,000; parents reject conspiracy theories surrounding death
https://www.timesofisrael.com/parents-of-murdered-jewish-dnc-staffer-turn-to-public-for-help/
Seth Rich’s parents, Fox News settle over false claim he was killed for leaking damaging information in 2016 election
The settlement comes as the family was set to depose Sean Hannity and Lou Dobbs, top Fox News hosts who peddled the falsehood.
https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/seth-richs-parents-fox-news-settle-over-false-claim-he-was-killed-for-leaking-damaging-information-in-2016-election

Trump invites Netanyahu to meet in US at ‘first opportunity’
The phone call between the president-elect and Israeli prime minister was “warm, cordial,” a statement from the latter’s office said.
https://www.jta.org/2016/11/09/politics/trump-invites-netanyahu-to-meet-in-us-at-first-opportunity
https://www.jta.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Trump_Bibi.jpg
Analyst: If Trump gives Netanyahu a green light ‘Palestinians will detonate in the face of Israel’
‘For Palestinians, it was not expected that the winner of the U.S. election, whoever it was, would shift American policy toward the Palestinian cause. United States foreign policy has been always characterized by a bias in Israel’s favor.
Both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump vowed to unconditionally support Israel during their heated campaign as this matter has never been disputed between the Democrats and the Republicans. The outgoing American president, Barak Obama has just handed Israel the biggest military aid package in the American history. His successor will definitely follow in his footprints. Although, Palestinians see that it may be harsher this time.’
https://mondoweiss.net/2016/11/netanyahu-palestinians-detonate/

Why is the US Honoring a Racist Rabbi?
https://archive.ph/qR6lv#selection-591.3-591.57
https://archive.ph/F3RIr#selection-2593.6-2595.15

Trump’s message to Chabad: I drew strength from Rebbe’s legacy
https://2.a7.org/files/pictures/781×439/1167555.jpg
Chabad Hassidim mark the 31st anniversary of the passing of the Lubavitcher Rebbe today. President Trump recounts his visit to the Rebbe’s grave on the anniversary of October 7
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/410812

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 5 2025 9:04 utc | 169

Fixed links for the Seth Rich info:
Seth Rich’s Israeli Military Experience:
https://tinyurl.com/bp6nck23

Eyewitness: ‘I was there when Seth Rich was shot, they walked him past me, he didn’t even know he was shot, no pain’
The eyewitness said Seth Rich was walked past him and not in pain when he was removed from the crime scene by police:
https://tinyurl.com/m9fntj43

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 5 2025 9:11 utc | 170

Years ago I remember being shocked there was an actual word especially for this:
Defenestration .. I remember thinking… how often does that happen?
Now, I wonder what the Russian equivalent is… because the phenomenon sure happens A LOT in Moscow.

Andrey Badalov, VP of Russia’s state oil pipeline giant Transneft, died after falling from a 17th-floor balcony in Moscow — despite living on the 10th floor.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 10:28 utc | 171

“ Elon is just lucky he’s too young and wasn’t on that particular kompromat network radar. A bi older and a bit better connected at the time…. He’d be right there on Little St James/ Lolita Island.”
Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 1:21
I did read that E Musk’s brother had significant ties to Jeff Epstein, maybe even visiting the island. There is also a famous photo of Musk and Maxwell partying with other “top people”.
Four or five years ago popular independent cartoonist, “Meat Canyon”, produced a cartoon which had scenes of Musk staring intently/goofily into ocean. The last time this happened , the scene widens to show “the island” and Jeff Epstein tapping Musk on the shoulder and saying something like “Elon you spend so much time thinking about colonising Mars and saving humanity, you need to relax -c’mon let’s go get a massage”.
“Meat Canyon” gets a lot of views and is very popular with younger people. I note the “world’s richest man”didn’t sue.

Posted by: will moon | Jul 5 2025 10:35 utc | 172

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jul 4 2025 23:40 utc | 123
It’s obvious that most people ranting about treason know nothing of the Constitution
Who’s ranting, you fucking pinhead? You’re the one who regularly uses 10 times more words than necessary…almost always a pretentious gambit for insecure ‘scholars’ like you.
And if you think that making, adhering to their Enemies, stick, or coming up with, the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, somehow acquits, say, a douchebag like John Brennan, well, I’d say you’re in bad faith, which you obviously are, having trotted out your little backlog of traitors, and by extension their litany of seriously destructive crimes against country and humanity in general.
Actually, come to think of it, the only accusation of treason that comes to mind is that of John Brennan’s against Prez Trump…deliciously ironic, and of course, self-damning.

Posted by: john | Jul 5 2025 10:58 utc | 173

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jul 5 2025 7:08 utc | 166
Ugh Obama birth certificate. As if that matters. And yeah it’s from 2016 and NONE ZILCH ZERO has been declassified.
Highly recommend Aaron Good’s book on American exceptionism and the tripartite state. No elected government will EVER answer the questions asked here or anywhere on the Internet.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 11:24 utc | 174

MS 13 HITMEN!!!! LOL

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jul 5 2025 11:28 utc | 175

I DO wonder how much longer Americans are going to continue to be morons, who believe their LYING politicians!
Posted by: Kay | Jul 5 2025 3:19 utc | 155
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Be prepared to wait a good long time. People— and not just Americans — claim to be skeptical about what the MSM dictates, then turn around and believe everything in the MSM that confirms their “worldview”, i.e., the prejudices they’ve been taught by, wouldn’t you know, the MSM among others.

Posted by: malenkov | Jul 5 2025 11:47 utc | 176

Defenestration? Not limited to Russia. A few CIA pioneers also “fell” e.g. Frank Wisner Sr. (His son Wisner Jr. married Sarkozy’s mother.)

Posted by: Teraspol | Jul 5 2025 12:15 utc | 177

The Kissingerarians are making their move.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 12:27 utc | 178

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jul 5 2025 6:34 utc | 164
That would explain a lot! Thanks for the links.

Posted by: David Levin | Jul 5 2025 12:31 utc | 179

Can Trump channel Nixon to isolate China ?
https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2025/03/trump-russia-china-disruption?lang=en
It’s so obvious and Why you will never See Tucker Carlson pushing a shopping Trolley through Beijing and saying what a great place it is and how friendly the Chinese are.
The majority of alt right media is just one big psyche op. Why they make excuse after excuse after excuse for Trump.
It’s all they have left as they can’t fight both Russia and China at the same time. So the only option they have left is make friends with one of them. The Kissingerarians have chosen Russia.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 12:36 utc | 180

Actual Enemy.
Via Naked Capitalism —
“China, the U.S., and India are the three largest carbon emitters, collectively accounting for over half of global emissions, with the U.S. showing significant reductions since 2000 while China and India have seen substantial increases tied to economic development and continued fossil fuel reliance.”
For the old nation-based fighters here.

Posted by: elmagnostic | Jul 5 2025 12:43 utc | 181

Why very suddenly, right out of the blue, the alt right media are standing up for Iran. Yet, will never stand up for Taiwan which is actually a part of China.
There’s a big geopolitical move happening. The Kissingerarians are making their move. As they know very well they can’t fight them both.
It”s communist they don’t like in the phrase communist China. They simply can’t wait to start a war with it. But need Russia on their side. There’s plenty of Kissingerarians in Russia and America who are trying to make it happen. The alt right media are full of them.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 12:44 utc | 182

It’s fasinating but what lessons can be learned from all this to help our present day understanding of todays geo politics.
Ie… predicting and surviving.

Posted by: Mark2 | Jul 5 2025 12:45 utc | 183

Melaleuca@171…..balcony sex is always fraught with danger…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jul 5 2025 12:45 utc | 184

When you invite people on a show who have the exact same views and what differences they have are minuscule. All you are deliberately doing is pushing through a consensus.
It’s the oldest trick in the book. By the end of the week the framing , narrative and consensus has been achieved.
The alt right media needs to be treated with kid gloves. The kissingerarians identified. It’s so obvious what’s happening as they make excuse after the excuse after excuse after excuse for Trump.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 12:55 utc | 185

“The Kissingerarians are making their move…”
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 12:27 utc | 178
You have made this point many, many times-it is trite, silly, simplistic as well as inaccurate, yet its your idea, fine.
But after dozens of iterations it is time for you Shut The Fuck Up on this point!

Posted by: canuk | Jul 5 2025 12:58 utc | 186

It’s not credible at all that trump does not have video Komprimat on himself with the Russians and Israelis. Both are masters of the honeypot and trump was famously known to be a ladies man. The Russians may have him with legal aged ladies but the Izzies, through Epstein, have the more underaged sort of gal. I can’t believe that trump, when a tasty young thing, or three are dangled out in front of him, won’t jump at it, cameras be damned.

Posted by: Migmaw | Jul 5 2025 13:10 utc | 187

The kissingerarians are very easy to identify..
When watching them on the alt right media, just ask yourselves what would they be saying if Russia and America were attacking China ?
It would be a hell of a lot different to how Michael Hudson and Richard Wolf and Yves Smith commentated on it.
That’s how you know who they are and you watch most of them every day.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 13:13 utc | 188

Dembot of Alabama: “The majority of alt right media is just one big psyche op.”
And the Establishment Mockingbird mass media, along with its armies of NGO social media dembot trolls, is a big psyop.
“So the only option they have left is make friends with one of them. The Kissingerarians have chosen Russia.”
They don’t have a choice, you fraudulent moron dembot. You are pretty stupid if you think it is a matter of choice.
It was your heroes the Clintons, the human cabbage and his running mate, Willie Brown’s idiot giggle whore, and your holiest of holies Saint Obama who ignorantly and hubristically thought they could make Russia kneel by force and become the Empire’s blunt object to batter China with (and soak up the nuclear response if China started losing). Now that the Empire is down to the wire in its life-or-death struggle with China there is no more time to try and pull a rabbit out of your hat with you retarded dem’s “fabulous” plan to subjugate Russia, so trying to make friends with Russia instead is the only option left. Had you dembots’ loser heroes done that in the first place the Empire wouldn’t be in this bind right now, so I guess I owe fools like you a debt of gratitude.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 5 2025 13:14 utc | 189

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 5 2025 13:14 utc | 189
Clinton and Obama my heros ?
Dearie me … Those libtards?
Clearly I’ve touched a nerve here, are you damn sure your not a Kissingerarian William ? Have I flushed you out and you have revealed yourself with such a moronic reply ?
I know Canuck is 100%.
Right wing “sound money” libertarian types like yourself hate the word communism ? You hate it even more than I hate the names Clinton and Obama.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 13:26 utc | 190

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 5 2025 13:14 utc | 189
Superb post!

Posted by: canuk | Jul 5 2025 13:28 utc | 191

I already know the 15-20% of the bar who are Kissingerarians it has been so obvious for years. They have very reliable ideological birth marks.
There’s absolutely no need to come out of the closet like 2 of you did just then to reveal yourselves. Everybody already knows. The closet has been open for all to see since January.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 13:38 utc | 192

I’ve never seen SoA defend the fake-left. Did I miss it? Possible, because I often skip SoA comments due my disinterest in MMT debate. But, I seem to recall him seeing much of the rest of the landscape the same bleak way I do. The hostility towards him seems unfounded. And unnecessarily rude.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 5 2025 13:46 utc | 193

Dembot of Alabama is a dembot troll, 100% guaranteed.
Note the tribalist phrases and terminology he uses. Would anyone truly outside the fray of American domestic politics bother with such? Ask yourself who would obsess about “alt right media” when the normal corporate mass media is an order of magnitude more powerful, massively better financed, and more malignant? Someone who works for the Mockingbird (social) media, that’s who.
Feed him if you feel you must, dear readers, but do know he is a troll and it boosts his ego (and his paychecks) when you take him seriously.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 5 2025 13:51 utc | 194

William kissingerarian Gruff
They have a choice, once again you are lying.
They have a choice a clear choice. They could have a real open honest debate and have Brian Berletic v’s Gilbert Doctrow or any of the other Trump apologists.
That would be worth watching, debating their massive differences in opinion. Rather than watching a consensus getting pushed through.
But that’s not how this kissingerarian alt right scam works now is it ?
They want Tucker pushing shopping trollies through Moscow instead. While attacking China over Taiwan.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 5 2025 13:55 utc | 195

I forgot @193: “I’ve never seen SoA defend the fake-left.”
Positive campaigning by the faux left went out of style well before the 2016 elections. They have nothing to offer. For over a decade now their only possible sales pitch is that their opponents are worse, which is highly debatable, but that is what they are going with anyway.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 5 2025 13:59 utc | 196

@ Migmaw | Jul 5 2025 13:10 utc | 187
Tangential to your point: I’m starting to doubt such blackmail material matters except as a circus prop. The people at the top are such scum that a “piss tape” or “even “fucking a few toddlers” only matters if and when the regime shepherds say it matters.
I bet most people would vote for a NAMBLA maximalist if they trusted (rightly or not) that said candidate would stop killing millions of people through bombs and theft-induced austerity.
If a leaked tape were to show Donald, Stormy, Hunter, and Elon getting nekkid with a few tweens, I’m inclined to invoke the Hillaryism: “What difference would it make??” Half the crowd would dismiss it as a deep fake and the other half would split between caring and not caring. The imperial shepherds cast the deciding vote, always and often contravening organic opinion.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 5 2025 14:08 utc | 197

@ William Gruff | Jul 5 2025 13:59 utc | 196
I notice this as well, among the fake left. But, *I* haven’t witnessed SoA do that. If SoA just so happens to criticize more heavily the people currently nominally in power, that’s sort of what I expect anyway.
Your criticism is valid against most pundits and media elsewhere. But, AFAICT, the Trump critics here are mostly more objective.
At least, that’s how I’m seeing it.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 5 2025 14:16 utc | 198

I forgot @198: “But, *I* haven’t witnessed SoA do that. If SoA just so happens to criticize more heavily the people currently nominally in power…”
And the “alt right media” are in power? The Establishment mass media are the underdogs now?
Try a little harder.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jul 5 2025 14:22 utc | 199

BTW, if someone were to make the scene referenced here:
> If a leaked tape were to show…
into a feature-length animated film, I hereby license my idea freely but demand a closing credit.
Thank you.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 5 2025 14:23 utc | 200