Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 28, 2025
‘Blind Ideological Zealotry’ Let EU Agree To This Trump Deal

The European Union and U.S. agreed on a trade deal which cements the vassalization of the EU:

After make-or-break negotiations between President Donald Trump and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in Scotland, the pair agreed a US tariff on all EU goods of 15%.

That is half the 30% import tax rate Trump had threatened to implement starting on Friday. He said the 27-member bloc would open its markets to US exporters with zero per cent tariffs on certain products.

Von der Leyen also hailed the deal, saying it would bring stability for both allies, who together account for almost a third of global trade.

Trump said the EU would boost its investment in the US by $600bn (£446bn), including American military equipment, and spend $750bn on energy.

That investment over the next three years in American liquified natural gas, oil and nuclear fuels would, von der Leyen said, help reduce European reliance on Russian power sources.

Some goods will not attract any tariffs, including aircraft and plane parts, certain chemicals and some agricultural products. A separate deal on semiconductors may be announced soon.

[A] 50% US tariff Trump has implemented on steel and aluminium globally would stay in place, he said.

The is a very, very bad deal for Europe. It again demonstrates the incompetence of EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

As I have pointed out previously there was and is no imbalance in trade between the U.S. and Europe. There was no need for tariffs or for agreeing to a deal. As the Washington Post concedes (archived):

For the E.U., a 15 percent blanket tariff is far worse than what European officials had previously hoped for. They’d offered “zero-for-zero” tariffs with the U.S. on industrial goods at the start of Trump’s trade blitz. But the bloc has sought to avoid an all-out trade war with its traditionally closest commercial and military ally.

Trump frequently complains about the yawning gap in U.S.-E.U. merchandise trade. Last year, the U.S. imported almost $606 billion worth of European products while selling goods totaling about $370 billion to European buyers. The resulting $236 billion trade deficit is evidence of European unfairness, Trump insists.

But the U.S. runs a sizable surplus of its own in trade in services like financial advice, tourism and education, bringing the total trade relationship much closer to balance. Considering the total $1.8 trillion in goods and services that flow between the U.S. and E.U., the U.S. trade deficit is less than $100 billion, which most economists say is inconsequential.

The EU commission was given the tools to prevent the current outcome. That is why yesterday Martin Sandbu of the FT argued (archived) that there was no need to concede:

There will be no final agreement.

So it is a mistake to treat this as a negotiation with an ultimate resolution. There will be no resolution. There will continue to be instrumentalised chaos, promised policy steps will suddenly be thrown out, and linkages with all kinds of demands unrelated to trade will keep being made, mafia-style (just ask Brazil). The EU’s task is not, therefore, to negotiate a trade deal, but to find ways to insure its economies, companies and workers as much as possible from the cost of being exposed to a completely unreliable US.

The US is more vulnerable than it thinks.

[T]he EU’s net imports of US services and its net royalty payments for intellectual property balance out its net exports of goods to America. [..]

The EU is more powerful than it looks. So far, the EU does not seem too willing to go beyond tariffs as a retaliatory weapon. But it, obviously, has others. The most relevant rule here is the “anti-coercion instrument” (ACI) that gives the European Commission vast powers to choose economic measures it sees fit — well beyond the realm of tariffs or even trade more generally — in order to respond to an attempt by a foreign power to coerce its policy decision.

To sum up: there is no settlement that will end Trump’s unreasonable demands and stabilise trade policy; the balance of bargaining power favours Europe more than conventional wisdom believes; and the EU may not need, in terms of its long-term economic interests, to divert Trump from his protectionist course. So why should the EU offer the US anything? To be blunt, it doesn’t need to negotiate. That is what von der Leyen should tell Trump today. Pulling out of talks is, if anything, more likely to get Trump to back down.

There was no reason for the EU to accept any deal.

That it did so is a result of the miserable negotiation tactics (archived) van der Leyen has pursued. She has become a cause and symbol of Europe's decay.

The only positive feature of the deal is that it is not clear yet (archived) what it entails:

Like many preliminary agreements Mr. Trump has announced, this one had few details. For some of the “deals” that Mr. Trump reached, other governments have seemed to lack clarity on what exactly they agreed to, and it remains unclear which tariff rates will apply to which products as of Aug. 1.

“There’s a lot of issues that I think are still very unclear,” said Mujtaba Rahman, managing director for Europe at the Eurasia Group. “If there aren’t further exemptions to be negotiated to that 15 percent, I think it’s a far more suboptimal deal than the member states were hoping to achieve.

On hopes that the EU member states will finally be furious enough to kick van der Leyen out of her office. The Prime Minister of France seems to be ready to do that.

François Bayrou @bayrou – 8:29 UTC · Jul 28, 2025
(Translated by Grok)

Von der Leyen-Trump Agreement: it is a dark day when an alliance of free peoples, united to affirm their values and defend their interests, resolves to submission.

Indeed this is a capitulation to the U.S. of A.

As a German I wince when I read Chancellor Merz' commenting (archived) against the interests of his own country:

German Chancellor Friedrich Merz saluted the agreement as “avoiding an unnecessary escalation in transatlantic trade relations”.

He said a trade war “would have hit Germany’s export-oriented economy hard”, highlighting how the German automotive industry would now see US tariffs cut from 27.5 per cent to 15 per cent.

However, Wolfgang Niedermark, board member of the Federation of German Industries trade body, called the agreement “an inadequate compromise”, with the EU “accepting painful tariffs”.

A 15 per cent US tariff rate “will have a huge negative impact on Germany’s export-oriented industry”, he said.

Warwick Powell, in stark contrast to other opinions, sees the deal as an attempt by the EU to further entangle the U.S. in Europe:

[L]ook beneath the bombast, and a different picture emerges. The picture is paradoxically not of European weakness per se (or vassalage as self-loathing Europeans would be tempted to say), but of European entrapment strategy from a position of relative weakness. If anything, this “deal” locks the United States deeper into Europe’s security and economic architecture, not the other way around. And it does so by using the one thing Trump cannot resist: the illusion of winning.

Warwick argues that most parts of the deal will never be done anyway. The U.S. can not export, and the EU not import, the amount of gas that would be needed to spend $750bn on energy. The investment side of the deal would have happened anyway and the tariffs will hurt the U.S. more than the EU.

But how is the EU winning with that? It sounds like 4-dimensional chess to me when von der Leyen is clearly incapable of winning a round of checkers.

The best summary of the situation comes, as so often these days, from the Russian side:

Medvedev: Trump “steamrolled” Europe with a one-sided deal that serves only American interests.

Commenting on the newly struck trade agreement between the U.S. and the European Union, former Russian President and current Deputy Chairman of the Security Council Dmitry Medvedev argues that the agreement:

  • Strips Europe of its economic defenses, removing tariffs for U.S. goods while leaving EU markets vulnerable;
  • Imposes heavy costs on European industry and agriculture, forcing them to rely on overpriced American energy;
  • Diverts investment from Europe into the United States.

For Trump, it’s just business, Medvedev notes. For Europe, however, it’s blind ideological zealotry — with Ursula von der Leyen and the Eurocratic elite sacrificing the welfare of their own citizens.

Th EU commission could have easily prevented this.

A 100% tariff on Hollywood movies and a digital service tax to be payed by Microsoft, Google and others would have hit Trump and the U.S. where it hurts. The means were all there for the EU commission but it did not even give them a try. The result is a terrible outcome.

Comments

An earlier comment:
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 28 2025 10:28 utc | 82
Does the EU buy anything but LNG from the US? Not such a concession in my view.
Posted by: qparker | Jul 28 2025 11:17 utc | 83
What’s the difference between US LNG and piped Russian Gas?
Figure it out.
As for the 15% – well, a form of Gangster Extortion one assumes!
Figure it out.
As for the forced purchase of billions and billions of unnecessary US MIC hardware based on US aggression, Kiev coup, and Russophobic US propaganda!
Figure it out.
As for the resulting de-industrialization of the European economy!
Figure it out in lost GDP.
As for the resulting decrease in European welfare for its citizens!
Figure it out.
I could go on. I can’t go on. I must go on.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 28 2025 12:24 utc | 87

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jul 28 2025 14:48 utc | 1

thanks b…
it sure seems like von leyen works directly for the usa.. everything she does isn’t in the best interests of europe, but the usa instead… and of course nato is a usa creation that all of europe continues to support… now it has just become even more apparent who calls all the shots… i find it amazing how europe goes along with all of this… obviously their is a financial dynamic behind this too that is critical to understanding it all.. when do they crash the whole system?? how long do we have to wait for that to happen??

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2025 14:50 utc | 2

Thanks b.
What i wonder regarding nuclear fuel: doesn’t the US buy (some of) their nuclear fuel from Russia still?
In consequence, does the EU now buy Russian nuclear fuel via the USA, just as they buy Russian hydrocarbons via India?
Be it as it may. As european citizen i am flabbergasted at the economic suicide at behest of the transatlantic oligarchy.

Posted by: kspr | Jul 28 2025 14:50 utc | 3

Let me out! Hard to imagine somebody worse and unsuitable for that position than Von der Leyen / Kallas.

Posted by: Aschamagola | Jul 28 2025 14:51 utc | 4

I was looking for just such a critical article to post on this servile and idiotic US-EU trade deal but couldn’t find one. Here it is. Many thanks b.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 28 2025 14:54 utc | 5

Looks like the eu has signed its Versailles act. Does anyone detect historical rhymes?

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jul 28 2025 14:55 utc | 6

Bad deal? No, it’s a craven, cringing, pathetic and manifestly corrupt sellout.

Posted by: pasha | Jul 28 2025 14:57 utc | 7

You get the government you deserve.

Posted by: AmusedIndian | Jul 28 2025 15:11 utc | 8

The time for pitchforks and torches has come. As always, the french will be the first to resist.

Posted by: calixtus | Jul 28 2025 15:12 utc | 9

b
Your analysis is off base.
There is roughly 1 trillion in goods trade between the US and the EU – and the imbalance is nearly 25% of that source

U.S. total goods trade with the European Union were an estimated $975.9 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to the European Union in 2024 were $370.2 billion, up 0.7 percent ($2.6 billion) from 2023. U.S goods imports from the European Union totaled $605.8 billion in 2024, up 5.1 percent ($29.4 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with the European Union was $235.6 billion in 2024, a 12.9 percent increase ($26.9 billion) over 2023.

As you can see above: the difference in goods trade is more than 1.6 to 1.
As for the US “trade surplus” of services exports to the EU: financial (bankster), IT (tech) and IP (tech).
None of these 3 actually benefit the vast, vast majority of Americans.
The physical bits of tech are built in China so there is not even that, and in both cases the profit is kept offshore via IP relocation fuckery to Ireland and Luxembourg and what not.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 28 2025 15:12 utc | 10

@ c1ue | Jul 28 2025 15:12 utc | 10
it appears b is quoting the washington post on that data..

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2025 15:17 utc | 11

Mish over at Mish’ global economic analysis points out that there is no enforcement mechanism for the EU-tards. France, Spain, etc. can all defy Ursula and there is nothing she can do about it. And she has no signing authority either.
https://mishtalk.com/economics/trump-announces-a-15-percent-tariff-deal-with-the-eu-but-there-is-no-deal/
Anyone over in Germany that can confirm this latest act of fraud?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jul 28 2025 15:19 utc | 12

Yawn… As your own post admits, this is all Kabuki theater but, let me stop my ad libitum and get back onto script..uhm..where was I, oh yes, Trump=Satan=evil..Status-Quo=Christ=good..end of story, say no more.
More concerned about world war than about the price of VWs but hey I get it, middle-class Germans aren’t going to risk their comfortable lifestyle like the Hungarians and Slovaks have. End the Euro, put breaking-up the EU on the table and then I’ll take what Germans have to say a little more seriously. I mean, the Euro is a gravy train for the German industrial worker.
Oh and uh…only nuclear will allow for a prosperous Germany so…don’t blame others for what is essentially an internal problem with the nonsensical/hysterical “Greens”.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 15:22 utc | 13

As noted five days ago on the open thread when Japan had signed it’s deal with the US, once the dominoes start falling it puts pressure on the other pieces.
The weakness of the western governments is part of the calculation and lamentations do not change the facts. Our power systems do not allow any longer for merit and competence to rise through the ranks, they only allow for the most corrupt, inapt and opportunistic to climb to the top. Merz, VdL, Starmer, etc. are mere expressions of a self serving apparatus that is beyond saving.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jul 28 2025 15:33 utc | 14

brian mcdonald sums it up well…
A new Versailles: Trump got his deal, the EU gets the bill
“This is not some accident of circumstance. It is design. The real war that reshaped the bloc was the severing of ties with Russia, orchestrated over the past two decade by Atlanticist elites desperate to keep the Western half of the continent lashed to Washington’s mast. And, in the words of Stratfor’s (aka the “shadow CIA”) George Friedman to prevent any rapprochement between Berlin and Moscow that could rival “American primacy.” Because, in his view from 2015, Russian natural resources and manpower combined with German capital and technology was the only alliance that could counter US dominance.
The rupture with Russia, presented as a sort-of moral necessity, was in truth a strategic reconfiguration—one that enriched American energy firms, defence contractors, and think tanks of course, while hollowing out the industrial competitiveness of the EU. When von der Leyen declared in 2022 that the bloc must ban all Russian oil and gas imports, she was not championing independence. She was ensuring dependence—on more expensive American liquefied gas shipped in at great cost.”

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2025 15:34 utc | 15

Von Der Leyen and her ilk exist entirely to deliver the fatted calf of the EU taxpayer to America, to help prop the ponzi dollar up a little while longer. Her incompetence is a feature not a bug. Similarly in their use of the EU as a proxy against Russia. Amazing what a global surveillance network and a money printing machine combined with utter ruthlessness can do.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Jul 28 2025 15:40 utc | 16

Trump previously criticized the EU for its trade surplus with the US, calling Europeans “vampires.”
But the discussion rarely includes the structural imbalance created by the dollar itself. The US dollar functions as a global reserve currency, which effectively makes it a key American export.
This role allows the United States to run persistent deficits while attracting global capital, but it imposes indirect costs on other economies, including the EU. If the US imposes tariffs while maintaining full access to European markets and financial flows, and the EU makes no counter-demands related to monetary or financial reciprocity, it raises serious questions.
Many countries are now moving away from dollar dependence, creating alternative lending frameworks to avoid institutions like the IMF. Meanwhile, the EU continues to support a system that reinforces dollar dominance and US leverage.
Is the EU preserving this arrangement out of strategic interest, institutional inertia, or simply a lack of political will?

Posted by: Daniel Bengtsson | Jul 28 2025 15:45 utc | 17

Meanwhile, in cloud-cuckoo-land, the German government is planning its budgets for the next years on the expectation of the economy finally starting up again and paying lots of taxes …

Posted by: Marvin | Jul 28 2025 15:48 utc | 18

Europe want poverty,
they crave that frissant of austerity to add to the wartime mood in their
obsessive race war against Russia and China.
They want all the plebs doffing their caps
and talking like cockney sparrows like it’s 1940.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jul 28 2025 15:49 utc | 19

You get the government you deserve.
Posted by: AmusedIndian | Jul 28 2025 15:11 utc | 8
As if no election was ever rigged or every inherited monarchy always delivered “enlighten tyrants”.
You deserved “the stupid quote of the day” award. Now take it and go play with your poo again.

Posted by: Savonarole | Jul 28 2025 15:52 utc | 20

The US is cannibalizing Europe like it cannibalized the British Empire during WW2.
Even the ECFR admits:
“The art of vassalisation

Conceptually, European allies have a role in this geo-economic struggle with China, but it is not, as during the cold war, to become rich and contribute to the military defence of the central front. To the contrary, their key role from a US perspective is to support US strategic industrial policy and to help ensure American technological dominance vis-à-vis China. They can do so by acquiescing to US industrial policy and by circumscribing their economic relations with China according to American concepts of strategic technologies.”
https://ecfr.eu/publication/the-art-of-vassalisation-how-russias-war-on-ukraine-has-transformed-transatlantic-relations/

Posted by: p3t3r | Jul 28 2025 16:01 utc | 21

As a German I wince when I read Chancellor Merz’ commenting (archived) against the interests of his own country…
If you were a real German, it would matter to you that Merz and his allies are maneuvering to ban Germany’s most popular party, AfD. Your complaint about German vassalage to the US is a bit absurd while you remain indifferent to your country’s political suicide.
“Banning Alternative für Deutschland: A Nightmare Scenario”
Eugyppius July 16, 2025

Posted by: titus | Jul 28 2025 16:02 utc | 22

@james #11
Repeating MSM positioning without looking into it, is the same as endorsing said MSM positioning.
b normally looks deeper than the surface of such MSM positioning…clearly not in this case.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 28 2025 16:09 utc | 23

I disagree with b on this point.
It is a bad deal for Europe on optics ; however, I believe Trump needed this ‘win’ (he desperately needs one after the Epstein file fiasco) and like any other Western politician he sold his soul for lack of a better word, ‘popularity’.
What wasn’t announced in his ‘ Euro’ deal was that US would keep the SMO going; why just today he took the 50 day deadline to 12 days-till when the US puts 100% tariffs on all Russian oil exports to China, India, Brazil et al
Why?
Cause Europe is finished unless they pillage Russia-only way to do it , maybe , is with 100% US support-hence , the seemingly lopsided deal.
Epilogue: Europe has gone in 1000% in the SMO cause if it goes in Russia’s favour they are done, like chicken dinner.

Posted by: canuk | Jul 28 2025 16:12 utc | 24

…wag their tails obediently…
Putin said European politicians had “fought” against Trump and interfered in US domestic politics. He suggested that they were disoriented by Trump’s victory, as they had been “mentally more comfortable” with Biden because Trump has “different views on what’s right and what’s wrong”.
Quote: “But I assure you, Trump, with his character and his determination, will restore order there pretty quickly. And all of them – mark my words, this will happen soon – will stand at their master’s feet and wag their tails obediently. Everything will fall into place.”
Putin in an interview on Feb 2 2025

Posted by: mk | Jul 28 2025 16:14 utc | 25

I re-checked the treaties about the EU commission and I didn’t manage to find the article allowing Ursula to sign a commercial agreement with a foreign country. (Normally it have to be ratified by the Euro-parliament AND by every member-state’s parliaments under unanimity rule.)
Just saying.
So the Don have a legally worthless peace of paper with miss Fond-of-lying autograph : it’s cool shit bro ! But it’s still shit.

Posted by: Savonarole | Jul 28 2025 16:17 utc | 26

“resolves to submission”
‘Poppy’ Bush’s ‘New World Order’ (1991) – USA – World’s Only Remaining Superpower – Wolfowitz
Doctrine 1992!
Post-Bush-Cheney Patriot Act (2001) Plus Post-Obama-Biden NDAA (2011) = UniParty Warmonger$$$
USAID = Media Propaganda – Coups – Color Revolutions – Regime change – BioWeapons – War-Drug Profit$$$

Posted by: JohnF | Jul 28 2025 16:28 utc | 27

Europe is being transformed into an “American satellite warrior-state” like England during WW2.
“Lend-Lease gradually consummated the process Churchill had begun of transforming England into an American satellite warrior-state dependent for its existence on the flow of supplies across the Atlantic.”
https://youtu.be/5U6QkFrrQNA?t=1860

Posted by: p3t3r | Jul 28 2025 16:29 utc | 28

I just assume that basically everything the western elites are doing is about protecting the house of cards that are the over-financialised western economies, and once again it explains the situation.
The first, naïve but accurate, reaction from some europeans to Trump back in april was that the best way to improve the material conditions in Europe was to get closer to China. While it would likely help the common people, it would do nothing about the stock markets and other financial instruments, and a closer cooperation with China would in fact be more likely to hurt the world of finance.
I kind of agree with the article that european elites are manipulating Trump, but I categorically reject the idea that it benefits Europe. The part about the military procurement in particular is a prime example of neoliberalism disease. The author explicitly says the means of productions, with all the advantages such as institutional knowledges, knowhows, scientific discoveries etc. are irrelevant and only the monetary value matters. Everything that could have been learnt from China’s rise or Russia’s resilience is simply ignored.
So the entrapment in question here is only about making sure the western economies will stay as a single financial market. Geopolitical frictions, such as tariffs or a tax on digital services, would have jeopardised this so the EU choose to surrender.

Posted by: Ythisah | Jul 28 2025 16:32 utc | 29

Europe is finished unless they pillage Russia
If true…then Europe is finished because, while a certain set of American generals fantasize about being being better commanders than Napoleon or, the 3rd Reich’s…it ain’t so.
While the US can project power, it can not sustain that projected power over time. And that’s not just because we lack a true land Army in the first place, or the logistical staying power to support such an imagined Army, the US has denuded itself of very industrial power it needs for such a thing to be built. By confronting Russia at this point in time before, at the very least, rebuilding that which the US threw away, it’s position is hopeless.
That is why you hear numb-nut-job-generals promising total victory in a matter of days/weeks. Yeah…yeah…we’ll be home by Christmas. And for it’s part, Russia has encouraged such adventurism by it conduct in the War Against Russia [WAR] in ex-ukrainia by ordering general retreats across all fronts and by engaging in a predictable manner than makes numb-nut-job-generals engage in delusional thinking.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 16:33 utc | 30

Does Trump’s Imperial Tribute plan, the Maralago Accords rescue America from massive debt, severe economic decline and stagflation. No, it won’t. Trump’s idea that tariffs and other means of economic warfare exploits weaker countries to America’s benefit won’t fix the American economy and generates internal and external chaos and negative effects. When a President interferes with the American ruling class’s ability to make money ” he has to go” and Trumps economic policies are a hot mess for everyone. The Epstein Scandal is the American ruling class using the hook to pull Trump off stage. They may not succeed but here’s to hoping.

Posted by: Bakunin65 | Jul 28 2025 16:35 utc | 31

As a German I wince when I read Chancellor Merz’ commenting (archived) against the interests of his own country…
If you were a real German, it would matter to you that Merz and his allies are maneuvering to ban Germany’s most popular party, AfD. Your complaint about German vassalage to the US is a bit absurd while you remain indifferent to your country’s political suicide.
“Banning Alternative für Deutschland: A Nightmare Scenario”
– Eugyppius July 16, 2025
Posted by: titus | Jul 28 2025 16:02 utc | 22
So what?
I’m German, even East German, and therefore more in line with the AfD.
But even the AfD supports the 5% BIB to make Germany and NATO war-ready. The emphasis was on WAR-READY, as expressed by German Defense Minister Pistorius on TV. WAR-READY, not DEFENSE-READY, was his choice of words.
And the big negative for the AfD is precisely this YES to 5% and the YES to NATO, and both are scaring off a large number of voters in East Germany, which is why the gap to Merz’s CDU is so small…in the EAST, no one wants war, NO ONE wants to rearm, NO ONE wants NATO anymore.
In East Germany, they want peace with, or especially with, Russia. In East Germany, they learned in school, “A Germany together with Russia is unbeatable,” something you will NEVER hear in the Western bubble school system. At the moment, many East Germans are distancing themselves from the AfD and leaning more toward the BSW out of protest! Did they know this? Surely not, but it could mean the end of the AfD, and that’s probably what they intended?

Posted by: Beobachter II | Jul 28 2025 16:43 utc | 32

@james #15
Bad analysis.
Among other things: The Europeans are fucking themselves.
This treaty is only the latest.
The 18 sanctions packages – those are all EU.
Silence over the “Ukrainian” bombing of Nord Stream is another egregious example.
Furthermore: what do you call China? China is the one that dominates manufacturing, worldwide.
China is the one growing faster and richer to go along with its massive population.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 28 2025 16:46 utc | 33

Shorter Bakunin65 31,
Trump=Satan=evil..Status-Quo=Christ=good..end of story, say no more“.
As I said above, the whole thing is Kabuki theater, that you or B would be incensed by a curated illusion would bring smiles to faceless-faces of the World-Wide-Coalition-of-elitists*.
*You stating/implying that the problem is only American-elitists is extremely comical at one level and yet, so very tragic at another.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 16:51 utc | 34

That is why you hear numb-nut-job-generals promising total victory in a matter of days/weeks. Yeah…yeah…we’ll be home by Christmas. And for it’s part, Russia has encouraged such adventurism by it conduct in the War Against Russia [WAR] in ex-ukrainia by ordering general retreats across all fronts and by engaging in a predictable manner than makes numb-nut-job-generals engage in delusional thinking.
Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 16:33 utc | 30
So you’re of the opinion that tough action and an advance, regardless of the losses, regardless of whether 100,000 civilian deaths were enough to deter the US generals? So the same approach that the US army, as far as you can call it an army, used in Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, and Vietnam… bombs, bombs, bombs, then tanks?
Well, one possibility. It’s certain that Putin was too trusting of the West for a long, long time (emphasis on was). Old wisdom says: “Exploit your opponent’s trust often enough, and you’ll create a merciless enemy.”
As for the capture of Kyiv back then, every “stupid” person here should know by now that the Russians ONLY withdrew… VOLUNTARILY and on orders, NOT because the Ukrainians were too strong, NO, because the Russian leadership was simply too trusting. The Russians…others say the most powerful and experienced army in the world…a Trump should be very, very, very careful with his, let’s say, clowning around…he doesn’t have Ursula von der Leyen in front of him or an Iraqi air defense that rolled out the red carpet for his B2s. The Germans are sending the Baltic states to provoke in the Baltic Sea, and the Baltic states themselves are facing economic collapse because no one in the EU wants their products…no trading company has yet put any products on its shelves! Their energy prices have increased twelvefold since being cut off from the Russian grid, but their incomes have not!
Etc. etc. etc.

Posted by: Beobachter II | Jul 28 2025 16:59 utc | 35

Arnaud Bertrand:

Just to impress how insane the transfer of its citizens’ wealth to the US that the EU committed to is: when you run the numbers, even discounting tariffs, we’re talking $3,000 – $4,000 PER EU CITIZEN (!!!) sent to the US under this unequal treaty.
In effect, given that the average EU salary is approximately €2,464 a month (ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statis…), this mean that each EU citizen will need to work the equivalent of 1-2 months just to pay for this tribute.
Here are the calculation:
$600 billion “investment” in the US
+ “hundreds of billions of dollars of American military equipment”
+ $ 750 billion dollars of US LNG
= $1.55 trillion (assuming conservatively that the 100s of billions of dollars of US military equipment is $200 billion)
Divide by 450 million EU citizens and you get $3,444 per EU citizen.

$3,444 Per EU citizen, as in, even an 1 month old infant.
Ursula should share the same faith as Mussolini.

Posted by: xor | Jul 28 2025 16:59 utc | 36

@ Beobachter II | Jul 28 2025 16:43 utc | 32
thanks.. very interesting commentary..
@ c1ue | Jul 28 2025 16:46 utc | 33
thanks for taking a look at the article… mcdonald thinks europe are fucking themselves, so you agree with him their! and i concur with your comments on china too.. i thought the article was pretty good myself, showing how depraved europe is, under von leyens subservient service to the usa…

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2025 17:01 utc | 37

C1ue 33,
The fact that the Pols in DC who support the War-Against-Russia in ex-ukrainia are the largest recipients of China’s largess is the tell.
Those DCers who support the War-Against-Russia in ex-ukrainia are aiding China’s accelerated rise to power. China has profited at every level from this war in ex-ukrainia and yet nobody here can seem to ask the the simple question; “Cui bono..to whom is it a benefit?

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 17:02 utc | 38

So you’re of the opinion that [insert false-dichotomy/strawman argumentation here]” – Beobachter II 35
Yeah…well..thanks for that “analysis

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 17:08 utc | 39

Europe just got “Plaza”d and will now get slomo ruin à la Japonaise. get ready to work till you die (even if it won’t fix shit…)

Posted by: roflmao | Jul 28 2025 17:08 utc | 40

It is not “ incompetence”.
These stan wolves are loyal to the Nato wolfpack. They are disloyal to the sheeple.
Nato wolves speak openly about wanting to disrupt BRICS and fight China. Nato decided to collect more taxes from all their sheeples to pay for more offensive wars. They advance in this direction by tariffing trade between themselves, as well as trying to fracture BRICS with ad hoc trade carrot/stick tactics.
This is “more guns, less butter” change to policy.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 28 2025 17:11 utc | 41

S Brennan #38: cui bono on the war in Ukraine? Really? The same military industrial security goons for whom all the wars since 2001 have been a boon.
Check out the stock performance of the big “defense” corps since 2001 … there are your winners behind Ukr war, Taiwan war, Gaza war, and every other bit of war and chaos that can be mustered.
That China has adroitly managed to keep its position and so far avoid getting entangled in the Taiwan trap is a credit to them.

Posted by: Caliman | Jul 28 2025 17:14 utc | 42

If ever there was a cementing on showing that EU bigwigs don’t give a toss about EU citizens this is it – already EU bigwigs, have put the Neo-Nazi dictatorship of Ukraine’s interests ahead of its own people, the same can be said with the Zionist who are committing genocide in Gaza – these cold calculating EU bigwigs – have put US interests, again – ahead of its own citizens, the EU really needs to be broken up, and broken up quickly – one wonders how long the people of the EU will put up with this – before they rise up and remove these charlatans for good.
Dissolve the EU should be on banners everywhere within the EU.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 28 2025 17:22 utc | 43

Could U$$A export $250 billion in LNG each year the next 3 years?
Possible. But longer term, unless the AI bubble bursts some location planning large data centers will see watt generation rise immensely the next 10 year.
Take U$$A grid growth and fracking decay and after Trump term U$$A consumers can’t afford natural gas.
U$$A military exports only profit the MIC. While incentives do not pay the U$$A taxpayers for designing the sold items.

Posted by: paddy | Jul 28 2025 17:23 utc | 44

32.
Can East Germany secede from Germany in theory? Is there a constitutional framework for that to be possible?

Posted by: Cavery | Jul 28 2025 17:26 utc | 45

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 28 2025 17:22 utc | 43
No, RoS, there’s a difference between the EU as an institution, and its current catastrophic leaders. for example, should Scotland have been abolished, just because Nicola Sturgeon was first minister?

Posted by: laguerre | Jul 28 2025 17:26 utc | 46

@ Ghost of Zanon | Jul 28 2025 15:19 utc | 12
Mish is great. But how much daylight exists between Ursula, Macron, Merz, etc? Will the sheeple stop them?

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 28 2025 17:27 utc | 47

I pray that this example of stellar incompetence pushes the EU to splitting apart and the rotten power seeking edifice collapses because individual states refuse to implement this.
I use the word pray, because it would appear to require almighty divine intervention to counter the serial tour de force of stupidity and fawning subservience that passes for government in Europe. God help us.

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jul 28 2025 17:37 utc | 48

b…
A 100% tariff on Hollywood movies and a digital service tax to be payed (sic) by Microsoft, Google and others would have hit Trump and the U.S. where it hurts.

Europeans frequently forget that the USA does not have a national VAT or an equivalent. When the Trump Team started calling out “unfair” trade practices here in Canada, that was one of the things mentioned.
If the US was solely interested in creating the revenue to shrink their unsustainable debt Ponzi, a VAT would be the way to go. A 15%+ tariff on imports from foreign counties does the same thing, but without punishing domestic producers. Whether this will work or not remains to be seen. The creation of a comprehensive predictive model based on all variables in a globalized and hyper-financialized economy is an impossible task.
Sensible reasoning suggests we should hope tariffs satiates the beast. Because if it doesn’t, even more conflict and chaos will be the result.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jul 28 2025 17:39 utc | 49

…one wonders how long the people of the EU will put up with this – before they rise up and remove these charlatans for good.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jul 28 2025 17:22 utc | 43

i am going to be that guy and say, it wont happen at all. the people in the eu are so completely brainwashed idiots, or as some eu bigwig once famously said, “highly educated”.
the western way of life is having all your needs met, a filled pantry, clothes and electronics made in sweatshops abroad. tv has all the things you want to see.
we are constantly told that “we are the good guys. democracy is the only way. everybody else is bad!”.
look at photographs in online outlets. ours are always saturated and full of color, while those of “evil countries” are always a little grey and washed out. its subtle manipulation. “we have it better!”. our radios only play “our” music. try requesting something from china, russia, iran, or heck anything outside our “bubble”, and the dj will only give you a blanket answer about how they cannot play this because of the contract they have with umg or whatever. even if its some free stuff.
those people (and i will admit, i was one of them while i grew up, until much later when i started to research stuff myself and dont just repeat the gospell from our “elected” leaders) will never rise up. there may be some madlads in france that burn some cars, or some idiots in britain that glue their hands on the pavement, but not a single person in the west will willingly give up their “way of life”. and this “way of life” is regulated by those unelected regime clowns sitting in washington, london, and brussels. and if ursual or donald tell you that “what we are doing is good.” then you better believe that the majority of those people believe every single word out of the mouts of unelected autocratic regime fascists.
leaving is the only option in my view.
(sorry for the rant, i am just sick and tired of my german state and the bullshit it is pulling.)

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 28 2025 17:46 utc | 50

Because, in his view from 2015, Russian natural resources and manpower combined with German capital and technology was the only alliance that could counter US dominance.
Posted by: james | Jul 28 2025 15:34 utc | 15
Umm, has he ever heard of a small east Asian country called China?

Posted by: forceOfHabit | Jul 28 2025 17:48 utc | 51

Well, it would certainly be interesting to go back and see what people were posting in January when Trump sent out his opening salvos. Because this is what has happened:
Trump knows the US is bankrupt as it was run by the Deep State. A business turnaround artist, he knew that in this case, gathering the troops and singing ‘Kumbaya’ (as Conman Carney is trying in Canada) wasn’t going to do the trick. He knew, first and foremost, that middle America needed SIGNS it was being listened to, and not ignored by liberal Washington, as most Canadians are ignored by our ‘Laurentian elites’.
So, he started the tariff war. First and foremost, the tariffs bring in new revenue. That is what ANY businessman would look for when his cash flow situation is as bad as the US’s is – a new source of revenue. Conman Carney meanwhile, borrows an enormous $92 billion to kick the can farther down the road. US Treasury brought in record amounts of tariff revenue in June.
I wish many here would remember Trump’s responsibility is to America, not Europe or Canada or Mexico or China. He is trying to fix America’s problems first. Keir Stammer lived up to his name yesterday when some reporter noted Trump had clamped down on illegal immigration successfully and swiftly, and what did Stammer have to say about that? Trump’s swift and decisive actions on that issue were another sign to his base that he’s serious about the problem, and that all it took to deal with it was political will. The Deep State had of course for years said it was complex and intractable and could not be reversed.
For old folks like me, that stance very much reminded me of the Carter-era Deep State, which advised detente and rapprochement with the USSR, as “it was here to stay, and only a dinosaur would believe that the USSR would ever disappear”. Ronnie Raygun said “Nuh-uh, let’s saddle up”, and by God, in just over ten years, the USSR was gone. These mighty shibboleths held up by the Deep State over the years – USSR, immigration, SARS, Covid – have proven to be just that: empty catchwords with no real substance or truth. And just as Ronnie got rid of Soviet Russia, Donny is trying to root out the Deep State.
Reagan at least had the advantage that most of his enemies were overseas. Trump’s are in his own party. He is like Hercules trying to clean the Augean stables, or are there people here who believe Washington isn’t the deepest swamp on the planet?
There are things I don’t like about Trump. His stance on Gaza, first and foremost. But by and large, he is doing what a business man would do to right the American ship:
1 – Bring in new revenue sources (tariffs, weapon sales)
2 – Deportation (saves social services $ and reduces demand)
3 – Employment (tariffs, deportations all increase labor demand)
4 – End DEI and woke nonsense (not ‘good enough’ but ‘best’)
Anyone who takes a moment to remove their ideological blinders sees this is correct.

Posted by: FrankDrakman | Jul 28 2025 17:57 utc | 52

Its the only deal Ursula could make, she holds no good cards……..DJT holds four aces.
Its about time the US protects its heavy industries, and stop playing the part of the economic sucker to China, the EU and Japan.
Bravo to Trump for his deal making. Protecting American jobs and American industry in the Great Lakes basin is very important – steel, aluminum, autos, mining, rubber, glass, coke, iron all important industries.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 28 2025 17:57 utc | 53

Well, Honzo called it. The only point we differ is he thought the EU was always the target, while I believe it became plan B after the failed Ukraine gambit.
Regardless, dreamers and losers once again learn the harsh lessons of previous generations: if organizing was effective, why didn’t it succeed before?
Like war, it takes two generations to forget the reasons for previous failures as the collective Quiote dons their makeshift mail to charge once more into the status quo.
Once more I’ll ask you, what manner of men, those who stayed behind, comfortable in their peonage while others more ambitious moved abroad, could hope to compete against such a force?
Charlie Brown, meet the football.

Posted by: Markw | Jul 28 2025 18:01 utc | 54

With all respect to Warwick, b is correct. The deal is capitulation and vassalization in principle. It establishes the principle of managed trade in the American interest uber alles, against the logic of all trade laws and rules since the GATT of 1947. There is now no reason to sustain the WTO or even the EU itself. In fact the EU just trashed its own ideological justification: multilateral institutionalism. The latter is now dead, and the EU killed it on behalf of US imperial interests.
Europe is circling the toilet with this deal.

Posted by: Crumchy | Jul 28 2025 18:01 utc | 55

FrankDrakman 52 – Agreed, DJT is a very good US trade deal maker, as proved by his recent signings.
Canada beware…..get your act together and quickly too………or face the music.
Also remember that at one point tariffs were a very important number one and or number two revenue source for the US government, before the advent of the income tax (used to fund our absurd involvement in foreign wars).

Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 28 2025 18:04 utc | 56

Orban makes some good points about the practicalities of the deal.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1949881575518138501

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jul 28 2025 18:06 utc | 57

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 28 2025 15:12 utc | 10
“None of these 3 actually benefit the vast, vast majority of Americans.”
What’s your point? There is not very much that goes down that “actually benefit[s] the vast, vast majority of Americans”. Or EU citizens. Why should this be different?
This is just a set up by the EU led by von Der Leyen, who is a US educated and indoctrinated stooge, to transfer wealth from the EU to a small part of the US population, which is what she is paid to do by all sides, whether they like it or not.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 28 2025 18:18 utc | 58

No one is entitled to enter the US marketplace without the permission of the US government and only for the benefit of American citizens.
Successive American Presidents have sold out American workers and their towns and villages to the deep state globalist cabal plotters and their acolytes like Bill and Hill Clinton…no more.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 28 2025 18:23 utc | 59

Under the fond of lying presidency.
Preening, posturing ignore reality
Then fold when told.

Posted by: jpc | Jul 28 2025 18:24 utc | 60

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2025 15:34 utc | 15
” Because, in his view from 2015, Russian natural resources and manpower combined with German capital and technology was the only alliance that could counter US dominance. The rupture with Russia, presented as a sort-of moral necessity, was in truth a strategic reconfiguration—one that enriched American energy firms, defence contractors, and think tanks of course, while hollowing out the industrial competitiveness of the EU. ”
Pretty short-sighted really, as what Yankee-land have got is not an alliance of Germany and Russia, but an alliance of China (much bigger economy than Germany) with Russia – i.e. even more threatening to the decaying, rotten, corpse.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 28 2025 18:26 utc | 61

Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 28 2025 18:23 utc | 59
“Successive American Presidents have sold out American workers and their towns and villages to the deep state globalist cabal plotters and their acolytes”
Are you actually surprised by that? Maybe should have read some Marx – but of course that’s taboo in the USA.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 28 2025 18:28 utc | 62

To rephrase:
This is a coordinated tax on all the sheep of all the Nato/Nato-adjacent stans, to fund wars. “I tax your imports, you tax mine, [we exempt some trade possibly related to weapons,] we buy weapons.”
If “too many” people here keep talking about “incompetence” or some leaders “not holding the cards” or anything else that implies “agency” or “independence”, then I might as well go hang out in a chat room for “serious” professional wrestling fans.

Posted by: I forgot | Jul 28 2025 18:32 utc | 63

While I completely agree with b that Ursula was badly rolled by DJT in this whole affair, most Americans could care less about EU tariffs on Hollywood (have not seen any of their rotten movies or shows in years) or for Indian run Google………
Google could go belly up tomorrow and most Americans would cheer…..good riddance!

Posted by: tobias cole | Jul 28 2025 18:34 utc | 64

Posted by: titus | Jul 28 2025 16:02 utc | 22
Eugyppius is a racist. A very well educated racist, but still a racist.

Posted by: Cherrycoke | Jul 28 2025 18:37 utc | 65

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 16:33 utc | 30
What you say is correct but it’s not just a case of “lack[ing] a true land Army”. There’s more to it. It’s a case of hubris leading to defunding of education leading to poor educational skills both in the armed forces and in industry, and the financialisation of industry leading to the ‘Boeingisation’ of armaments and other manufacturing firms. Result: high costs, overpromising, poor effectiveness and limited, short-term oriented output, plus de-emphasising of research, as it costs too much. Etc.
There is no way out of this now for the USA.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 28 2025 18:38 utc | 66

Posted by: canuk | Jul 28 2025 16:12 utc | 24
“Cause Europe is finished unless they pillage Russia-only way to do it , maybe , is with 100% US support-hence , the seemingly lopsided deal.”
“”Europe is finished unless they pillage Russia”
If true…then Europe is finished because, while a certain set of American generals fantasize about being being better commanders than Napoleon or, the 3rd Reich’s…it ain’t so.”
Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 16:33 utc | 30
Exactly.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 28 2025 18:49 utc | 67

Posted by: laguerre | Jul 28 2025 17:26 utc | 46
“should Scotland have been abolished, just because Nicola Sturgeon was first minister?”
Well, although I would never want that result, you could make a good case for it using the Wee Liar as a pretext.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 28 2025 18:52 utc | 68

So does anyone think the US won’t be back for more ?
Surely everyone in Washington would expect to go back in 24 months max and say that the deal is not working, we want more.
It’s like Rome rolling Carthage up, one capitulation encourages another.

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jul 28 2025 19:01 utc | 69

Trump cannot have it both ways, he cannot insist the trade between the US and the rest of the world including the EU is balanced and also that the dollar remains the reserve currency.
There are only two sources of the dollars for the countries that want to use the dollar as a reserve currency, a trade imbalances in favour of the countries trading with the US and the buying of the US Treasuries. The latter are being sold rather than bought as the Americans succeeded in weaponising the currency by expropriating Russian assets, mostly the US Treasuries. That leaves only trade surpluses to obtain the dollar. If that avenue closes either the markets will collapse or the world will go for a different reserve currency. The recent moves south of the dollar suggest the latter is more likely to happen although one cannot rule out fully a world recession either.

Posted by: Baron | Jul 28 2025 19:02 utc | 70

Trump’s new tariffs have sparked outrage from economists, policymakers, and commentators. The standard argument is that they are protectionist, inflationary, and bad for global trade. But there’s an irony here: the European Union has had its own Common Customs Tariff (CCT) for years,
Here:
https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/customs/calculation-customs-duties/customs-tariff_en
Yet it rarely gets the same criticism. As Brexit reaches its five-year mark, it’s worth examining the double standards in how tariffs are discussed—especially who they benefit and who they hurt.
Trump has slapped a tariff on imports from Canada and Mexico and a tariff on Chinese goods, citing concerns about illegal immigration and drug trafficking. Critics say these measures threaten free trade and could spark trade wars.
However, the EU’s CCT—which imposes standard tariffs on imports into the bloc to protect its industries—rarely faces the same backlash.
Why are Trump’s tariffs considered reckless while the EU’s are just part of the system? Is it political bias? Or a failure to understand how tariffs actually work?
In theory, tariffs make imports more expensive, meaning consumers and businesses in the importing country foot the bill. Yet, when it comes to Brexit, we often hear that the UK “pays” tariffs and other non-tariff barriers on exports to the EU—when, in reality, it will be EU consumers who end up footing the bill.
See the double standards at play here?.
The globalists framing and narratives can’t have it both ways. They can’t lie like they when Brexit was happening and now tell the truth and cry wolf.
This inconsistency is telling. When Trump imposes tariffs, the media focuses on how they will raise costs for American consumers. However, with Brexit, the focus shifts to how UK exporters suffer while ignoring the cost to EU consumers.
This selective storytelling distorts the accurate picture of how tariffs work. How the globalists have lied over the last 40 years.
Trump’s thinking isn’t particularly sophisticated—he sees the US buying more from Canada than Canada buys from the US and views that as a loss. However, there’s more to it than just trade deficits. A trade deficit wrongly viewed in old gold standard, fixed exchange rate terms.
The US Congress is also bound by ‘Pay-For’ and debt ceiling rules constraining deficit spending. In an ideal world, Trump would have these restrictions scrapped, but as long as they remain, he is looking for ways to carve out space for tax cuts or domestic spending.
Under the current system, some of the foreign trade surplus with the US translates into non-resident purchases of US Treasuries. By squeezing that surplus down, he reduces the amount flowing into Treasuries from non-residents while increasing purchases by US residents—assuming the overall federal deficit stays the same—effectively reducing fiscal space for domestic policies, not expanding it.
While it’s an indirect and stupid way to reallocate financial resources away from foreign creditors, it likely dampens total savings desires.
Likely, it adds to demand pressures, a shift that could affect inflation and interest rates. Yet, this angle is rarely discussed.
Instead, the focus remains on whether tariffs ‘work’ in a narrow trade-balancing sense rather than on their deeper fiscal and monetary consequences.
There’s little doubt that Trump’s tariffs will raise the price of certain luxury imports in the US, but almost no one asks what happens on the income side of the equation. If we split American workers into two broad groups—Trump supporters and non-supporters—his goal is simple: ensure that his supporters gain more than they lose, even if it comes at the expense of his detractors.
Trump could achieve this in various ways. If tariffs make imports more expensive, Congress can offset that by boosting the incomes of Trump’s base. It could come through tax breaks, subsidies, or policies favouring capital-intensive industries over consumer-focused ones.
If the gains are concentrated in key sectors—manufacturing, energy, defence—then the overall effect is a redistribution of wealth rather than just a simple price increase.
Why is no one talking about this? Perhaps because the discussion around tariffs remains stuck in simplistic ‘good vs. bad’ narratives rather than examining their real-world political and economic impact.
In response to Trump’s tariffs, Canada has floated the idea of retaliatory levies on US goods. While this might seem like a firm response, it risks backfiring by raising Canadian consumers’ prices and reducing living standards.
Which is probably why the EU hasn’t suggested it as discussed they already impose their own tariff anyway.
Unlike Trump, who appears to have a clear set of people he wants to benefit and a set he wants to stand the cost, Canada’s retaliation lacks strategic targeting—meaning the economic pain will likely fall on those least able to afford it.
Instead of reflexively imposing counter-tariffs, a more effective strategy would be to neutralise price increases. If Canada prevented price hikes on affected imports in CAD terms, the currency exchange rate would return the cost to suppliers.
US exporters would then be forced to lower their USD receipts or lose sales. But such nuanced responses rarely make it into the political debate, which tends to favour dramatic gestures over sound economics.
The EU tariff regime is treated as a given, while Trump’s tariffs are seen as a shock to the system. But why?
Part of the reason is political bias. The backlash against Trump’s tariffs often seems driven more by opposition to Trump himself than by a consistent economic argument. The media and policy elite view EU protectionism as a sophisticated and stabilising force while portraying Trump’s tariffs as reckless and populist. But in practical terms, both are tools used to favour domestic industries and manipulate trade flows.
Brexit offers another example of this double standard. The EU’s tariffs on UK goods are framed as a deserved consequence of leaving the single market, a form of economic gravity that Britain must accept. Yet, the UK’s ability to unilaterally drop tariffs on imports—potentially lowering costs for consumers and businesses—is brushed off as insignificant. The assumption appears to be that tariff regimes imposed by large, established players who believe they are in the right, like the EU, are justified. At the same time, those set by disruptive actors like Trump or post-Brexit Britain must be reckless.
This reflects a broader political reality: power determines perception. With its internal market and regulatory clout, the EU has embedded its anti-free-trade tariff system into global trade norms. Trump’s tariffs, by contrast, challenge the status quo, making them an easy target for criticism. Whether a tariff is seen as sensible or destructive often has less to do with economics and more with who implements it.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 28 2025 19:08 utc | 71

von der Leyen simply capitulated and now tries to picture as success. Typical EU
Good thing is that it will kill EU countries’ economies pretty soon – which will destroy the Evil Union as well

Posted by: aaa | Jul 28 2025 19:10 utc | 72

We need a fairer, more precise discussion on tariffs. That means holding the EU, the US, and other major economies to the same standard. It also means examining who actually bears the cost of tariffs rather than repeating well-worn out dated gold standard, fixed exchange rate type narratives.
Brexit has provided a real-world lesson in how tariffs function, and Trump’s changes will provide another. Instead of relying on political spin or theoretical ‘counterfactuals’ that are little more than wishful thinking, we should take this opportunity to rethink our approach to trade policy—one based on facts rather than assumptions.
Criticism of Trump’s tariffs is often inconsistent, particularly when compared to the EU’s CCT and the trade policies related to Brexit.
If tariffs are harmful, why do we accept them in some instances but not others?
We need to confront this double standard if we are to engage in a rational debate about trade.
As global trade shifts, it’s time to move beyond the usual talking points and ask more challenging questions about how tariffs work and who they truly serve.
Everybody knows I despise the fascist dictator Trump..
But that doesn’t mean I can’t continue to call a spade a spade when I see a spade. It’s very simple to do.
You just keep telling the truth regardless where you sit on the political spectrum. Point at it.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 28 2025 19:14 utc | 73

@ 59 Tobias Cole
It would be great if the US applied exactly that standard when it interferes with other sovereign states economies and politics. Europe is guilty of this aswell, but the point is the US is not exceptional, it’s just a bully.The biggest one.

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jul 28 2025 19:15 utc | 74

Orban makes some good points about the practicalities of the deal.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1949881575518138501
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jul 28 2025 18:06 utc | 57

Orban here suggests, or at least makes me think he suggests, that the Leyen lady may not really have the authority to make binding treaties on behalf of the EU member states. She is unelected. She hasn’t put anything forward to the member states. Etc, etc.
Can anyone familiar with the EU details confirm this? It would be hilarious if true. Then, every EU state can just ignore her and do what they like.

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 28 2025 19:16 utc | 75

Caliman 42,
Thank you for taking up defending China profiting vis-a-vi the War Against Russia [WAR] in ex-ukrainina using the “what-aboutism” form of argumentation:
Check out the stock performance of the big “defense” corps since 2001” – Caliman 42
Ignoring that most of that revenue stream is from Iraq/AF-PAK war, it casually sides steps my point about nation-states..really, we’re talking about empires, not who profits as individuals, that’s not only trivial, it’s irreverent to my point at 38:
The fact is, the Pols in DC who support the War-Against-Russia in ex-ukrainia are the largest recipients of China’s largess…Those DCers who support the War-Against-Russia in ex-ukrainia are aiding China’s accelerated rise to power. China has profited at every level from this war in ex-ukrainia and yet nobody here can seem to ask the the simple question; “Cui bono..to whom is it a benefit?” – S Brennan 38

Posted by: S Brennan | Jul 28 2025 19:17 utc | 76

@S Brennan #38
My view is that the China “support” is relatively small compared to the MIC support.
And that these politicians are nothing more than “good politicians”: they stay bought and in the order of payments.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 28 2025 19:28 utc | 77

@Jams O’Donnell #58
The core concept of Trump’s professed goal of reshoring manufacturing is that making things in the US = jobs = better lives for Americans.
$235B more goods imports from vs. goods exports to, the EU = net offshore production = less jobs for Americans.
And I furthermore noted that the “services” surplus that the US has with the EU is also not helping regular Americans because it is financial, tech and IP – and the tech and IP are closely related because the tech companies use IP relocation to game taxes down and keep profits out of the US until reshoring tax holidays occur.

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 28 2025 19:33 utc | 78

@Cavery
“Can East Germany secede from Germany in theory? Is there a constitutional framework for that to be possible?”
There is no constitutional article or law regulating the secession of a member state or specific territory. Secession is therefore neither permitted nor explicitly prohibited.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jul 28 2025 19:33 utc | 79

vonderleyen has put Israel and Ukraine before the needs of the EU.
She’s willing to destroy the EU to support US genocide in Israel and continue war instead of admitting defeat in Ukraine.

Posted by: Joe | Jul 28 2025 19:34 utc | 80

Trump is a terrible businessman as his string of numerous bankruptcies, lawsuits, and scandals prove time and time again over many decades. The USA is his last victim.

Posted by: azeclecticdog | Jul 28 2025 19:36 utc | 81

It’s all smoke and mirrors. Pretending to the rest of the world that the US market matters when everyone in the world over the age of 10 knows the truth, nobody buys anything from America!!
This deal, like the Japanese one is all optics. Buying US LNG and weapons that can’t be supplied, total joke which the rest of the world can see through.

Posted by: Ogre | Jul 28 2025 19:43 utc | 82

We have friends in the EU.
It astonishes us that Western Europeans are unwilling to rise up to this debacle.They all hate/despise VDY, yet the do NOTHING to counter her ties with the US.
What has happened to West Europeans that makes them so unwilling to rise up.
If anyone here respond to THE Why of these recalcitrant behaviors, please respond.
Thank you.

Posted by: Rubicon | Jul 28 2025 19:45 utc | 83

Research Von Der Leyden’s family history – Wikipedia will do. It tells you all you need to know – slave traders, industrial giants. Nothing’s changed except who are the slaves and what are the industries.

Posted by: Guest77 | Jul 28 2025 19:49 utc | 84

vdL is not incompetent, but callous and mendacious. She wants a war with Russia, which she intends to win – with the help of the USA.
In other words, sacrificing the European population on the one hand and tying the USA to Europe on the other, despite Trump’s unwillingness.
They themselves and all those who vote for this will in no way suffer. Only the “normal” population.

Posted by: smartfox | Jul 28 2025 19:50 utc | 85

*Leyen

Posted by: Guest77 | Jul 28 2025 19:50 utc | 86

What’s also often left out of the debate is The analysis has to be different when there is the possibility of nominal exchange rate movements coinciding with relative price level movements between nations.
This is very often missed again because of the old conversion theory from the gold standard , fixed exchange rate days. That peppers and oozes out of every mainstream macro analysis. Rather than concentrating on exchange theory of today with floating rates.
What’s astonishing is how few commentaries, particularly those originating in the U.S., acknowledge that China operates with a different currency. We often see arguments like this ..
Here:
https://stonemaiergames.com/the-darkest-timeline/
If a game costs $10 to make in China, upon arrival in the U.S., the publisher must pay a $5 tax to the U.S. government.
However, the truth is the game doesn’t cost $10 to make in China; it costs about 70 CNY.
To offset the tariffs, the exchange rate only needs to shift so that 70 CNY equates to 6.66 USD—a simple adjustment that China could facilitate by directing its sovereign wealth funds to be more generous when purchasing U.S. dollars.
The result?
China accumulates fewer U.S. dollars, reducing its savings and, consequently, reducing the issuance of U.S. Treasuries and interest payments flowing to China.
Paradoxically, this could even shrink the dollar-denominated trade deficit, making Chinese goods appear even cheaper in U.S. markets—despite no actual reduction in the volume of imports.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There are, of course, many permutations here, but the basic idea remains the same. The intent of the US administration is to eliminate additional net foreign savings of USD.
They could just stop issuing treasuries in the first place but way too dumb to realise it. As they look at the problem through their gold standard, fixed exchange rate type lens.
Trump is resorting to tariffs because they are a tool granted to him by Congress, and Congress, due to the structure of the U.S. institutional arrangements, lacks the power to curtail his use of them. Any restrictive legislation passed would face a presidential veto. Such is the challenge of having a Head of State with an independent democratic mandate.
Of course as always …
This approach by itself, fails to address the root cause of the issue: economies pursuing export-led growth manipulate financial flows to suppress productive activity in their target markets, creating space for their own economic output.
When U.S. dollars are exchanged for CNY, they fuel wages and production in China, while the corresponding U.S. dollar holdings in Chinese wealth funds flow into assets, prompting portfolio adjustments that ultimately end up in U.S. Treasuries.
Thus, US Federal spending should be directing dollars into domestic production and employment.
Where again a transition job ( a job guarentee) that transistions workers between the private and public sector and vice versa effortlessly. Becomes very useful.
Without such a mechanism, imports become an economic burden rather than a benefit to a good chunk of the population, and political responses like Trump’s tariffs become inevitable.
Much of this boils down to how GDP is calculated, adding exports and subtracting imports.
In contrast, actual living standards are improved by imports and diminished by exports. This is a textbook example of Goodhart’s Law:
When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
There are far more effective ways to address the impact of trade imbalances, but those in power have ignored them for years. And so, here we are—watching events unfold.
Indeed, we live in interesting times. Fittingly, we even blame the Chinese for that saying.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jul 28 2025 19:51 utc | 87

ad authority of von der Leyen to make such deal – she has no authority to make such deal. But in Evil Union it doesnt matter at all.
She didnt have authority to buy 1.8 billion dozes of Pfizer-Trump killing mRNA “vaccine”, and she did it.
It will go as following:
– Germany agrees, Merz is US poodle anyway.France will be promised something and will agree as well. May other idiots (Slovak Fico for example) will agree as well.
– Who will disagree, will be threatened by EU – under the pretext of “huge risks for rule of law” (EU model of terror on Hungary, Poland), states will be threatened and sanctioned via penalties and via blocking of funds. EU will order new payments form nations, Ursula will buy some shit (hopefully, not for example 17 billion dozes of mRNA “vaccine”, she will again get good pocket money (like in Covid with Pfizer)
Evil Union will be more centralized, more money form nations’ pockets to bureaucracy pockets. Nations will be in crisis, EU will raise the borrowing and will help some of them (like after covid).
Fortunately, this destruction path will soon lead to economical and financial crash, which will be liberation of the nations in Europe

Posted by: aaa | Jul 28 2025 19:52 utc | 88

Once more a suggestion: create a recurring USA thread.
The world is now firmly stratified into 3 spheres. To understand global events, it’s neccessary to focus on the main players, rather than specific theaters.
To achieve any analytical clarity, it’s also important to shed and discard non reality based hopes and fears by focusing on concrete and tangible facts and evidence.
The facts are, the Americas (including Artic), in terms of proven and potential reserves, may be the equal of the great Eurasian landmass, colloquially known as Russia.
Therefore the US/EU alliance can compete with the RU/CN for possibly the remainder of this century.
How does this highly likely fact impact strategic thinking in terms of relative competitive strengths and weaknesses? What will be the result on social organization, economic opportunities and military preparedness?
It’s a brave new world, one that was birthed without mushroom clouds bursting across the fruited plains.
I like MoA and feel it provides the best and most intelligent platform for thoughtful discourse. I understand the grieving process may take a little time, but if both Germany and Japan were able to recover from devastating defeat, the loss of pet ideals is relatively small beer in comparison.

Posted by: Markw | Jul 28 2025 20:16 utc | 89

@ forceOfHabit | Jul 28 2025 17:48 utc | 51
you are preaching to the choir here, but yes – good point..
@ FrankDrakman | Jul 28 2025 17:57 utc | 52
trumps approach looks valid on the surface, but you can’t be calling for peace while supporting the military industrial complex at the same time.. that is more of the incongruity that asks to put a square peg in a round hole and which trump excels at..
@ Jams O’Donnell | Jul 28 2025 18:26 utc | 61
i agree.. those ideas from 2015 are shown to be outdated at this point 10 years later..
@ c1ue | Jul 28 2025 19:33 utc | 78
it will take the usa 20 or more years to reshoring manufacturing, if it is even able to… we’ll see.. meanwhile the usa has to find other ways of propping up the falling empire.. tariffs may have a number of unintended consequences, so we’ll see how it all works out moving forward… the small person is the least of trump and companies concerns, although trumps political talk is very enticing..
@ azeclecticdog | Jul 28 2025 19:36 utc | 81
yes, and thus we are going to see just how all this works out, compared to the paper trail being generated here, moving forward.. if trumps track record is any indication, it doesn’t bode well..

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2025 20:16 utc | 90

U$$A aka Murka can’t be MAGA if Trump leaves the pedophiles on Epstein list un indicted.
This topic sells to democrats and all moral Americans .

Posted by: paddy | Jul 28 2025 20:23 utc | 91

“Incompetence”, her and consorts incompetence did not need any more prove. Von der, has not half a page of original content in her career. What she is whispered at from the “souffleur” under the stage(probably her husband) is “what is good for our ‘elite’ clan, is what counts”.
She could have shown smartness, and then what, what with the vested interests of her tribe?! A politician is window dressing, reads from a script. Come Ms. von der Leyen, be it Marc Rutte. Trump et al. obey the rule. Seems carcasses are better to control.
Geo politics is not ‘hard’ science, it is cos-play, pro wrestling. Poor bunch of suckers not good-looking enough to be debauched by Holywood.

Posted by: PetrOldSack | Jul 28 2025 20:24 utc | 92

speaking of european subservience, uk is not to be outdone…
US Sends Nukes to UK, First Time Since Cold War
Washington responds to Russia with escalation
Ken Klippenstein
Jul 28, 2025

Posted by: james | Jul 28 2025 20:26 utc | 93

European Socialism subsidizing the U.S. economy – a Vassal State
Kuwait paid costs US Armed Forces for First Gulf War … GCC States for military campaign in Iraq, Syria and war on Iran … Europe [UK included] for the ongoing Third WW across NATO states on the Ukraine Front and the coming Pacific Front to protect “our interests” in Taiwan.
Many moons ago I postulated the one-two punch of Joe Biden and DJT … Joe too was a MAGA guy and prepared total dependence on fossil fuels – Big Tech – military sales so NATO is bound to fight the empire’s wars … opening the Taiwan Front. VDL lend her ear to German Big Industrial lobby. Pro-Israel – love for the Hudson Institute i.e. Henry Jackson Society On-the-Thames.
1967 the Middle East Front – 2011 getting NATO involved – 2022 sealing contract with the EU for the Ukraine Front.
As Orbán exclaimed: ’Don ate her for breakfast.’

Posted by: Oui | Jul 28 2025 20:28 utc | 94

Lavrov made a scathing assessment of the “deal” sealed by the European slave to Master Trump in his remarks today, but that wasn’t all he had to say about the state of the world. My title’s report tells just a tad, “Lavrov: “[T]hey are all Nazis.”. Within the report are links to several important chats that took place today and over the weekend along with several linked articles barflies will want to peruse.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jul 28 2025 20:28 utc | 95

This prostitute is very competent as a foreign agent.

Posted by: Naive | Jul 28 2025 20:29 utc | 96

Posted by: Avtonom | Jul 28 2025 19:16 utc | 75
stricktly speaking, as there are nuances, ursula is just the same as rutte. a figurehead. she is the head of the european commission. but, the comission itself unly puts forward the “suggestions” policies by the coreper (the commitee of permanent representatives), which for some reason, has americans on board if i recall correctly? and nobody is democratically elected in this comittee.
the wording is, as usual with legalese bullshit here in the west, that coreper only “prepares” the work for the council.
i need to refresh my understanding on how all of this works, and i could also be off, but this is how it goes as far as i remember.
whatever, orban has a point, but also what he says does not matter, as the policies given down wheter from ursula or not, will ultimately be implemented.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jul 28 2025 20:31 utc | 97

Screwing Starmer, von der Leyen and the EU wasn’t Trump’s only purpose in visiting Scotland it seems…
Trump’s Turnberry Game Isn’t Golf – It’s Bankruptcy Bailout And An 18 USC 201 Offence (Bribery)
https://johnhelmer.net/trumps-turnberry-game-isnt-golf-its-bankruptcy-bailout-and-an-18-usc-201-offence-bribery/
“President Donald Trump’s long weekend trip to Scotland wasn’t to meet King Charles III, that meeting has been set for mid-September.
He met the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, not to negotiate trade terms but to announce the conclusion of what Trump called ‘probably the biggest deal ever reached in any capacity, trade or beyond trade,’ also, ‘the biggest deal. People don’t realize. This is bigger than any other deal. We have, uh, great countries, great countries. Uh, I’m familiar with many of ’em, so are you. And, this is really the biggest deal. This is the, I guess we’re the biggest, uh, out there.’
Trump’s purpose in Scotland was to advertise the game of golf on the two resort courses he owns in Scotland = Turnberry in the southwest, and in Aberdeen in the northeast. That’s Trump’s game.
But Trump’s golf business is in financial trouble within the Trump group of companies in the US; and in the financial accounts he is required to report to the UK Companies House.
Advertising the value of the assets, as Trump’s game-playing visit has been planned to display, also exposes the financial vulnerabilities and invites rescue at a takeover premium…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jul 28 2025 20:31 utc | 98

Posted by: c1ue | Jul 28 2025 19:33 utc | 78
“The core concept of Trump’s professed goal of reshoring manufacturing is that making things in the US = jobs = better lives for Americans.”
This is never going to happen. All those jobs are now in China, Vietnam, India, South Korea etc. The US economy is now controlled by financiers – who have no interest in promoting manufacturing, because there is more profit to be made in manipulating various forms of finance. There is nothing Trump can do to change that – even assuming that he actually wants to – as opposed to saying nice things to keep the delusionalists happy.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jul 28 2025 20:32 utc | 99

Europeans frequently forget that the USA does not have a national VAT or an equivalent. When the Trump Team started calling out “unfair” trade practices here in Canada, that was one of the things mentioned.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jul 28 2025 17:39 utc | 49
Each state imposes a sales tax (equivalent to VAT) – it varies from state to state, but I know of no state where it is zero. Whatever it is, it is the states’ business and not for foreigners to say what it should or should not be. Though personally I find it most inconvenient that it does not show on the sticker price but is demanded at the checkout.
That it is not nationwide is an irrelevance.
Fool me 47 times…

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jul 28 2025 20:38 utc | 100