Counter to my expectations Israel has launched a war against Iran …
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June 13, 2025
USrael’s War On Iran
Counter to my expectations Israel has launched a war against Iran …
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Which way took the 200 israeli fighters to attack Iran? Posted by: Niles | Jun 13 2025 16:23 utc | 601 Plus the war machine of France, the UK, Germany… Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 16:23 utc | 602 Personally I think both Iran and Russia are preparing much more devastating responses. Time will tell. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 13 2025 16:26 utc | 603 Posted by: Tichy | Jun 13 2025 15:57 utc | 586 Posted by: Ninhvoi | Jun 13 2025 16:27 utc | 604 People have been chased off for saying that Putin is especially lenient on Israel because he is himself Jewish. They were laughed at or called trolls. Well the evidence was always there that his mother was Jewish even if his father may not have been. I still believe Putin has Jewish origins , but until now I always thought that -in at least matters of state-his Soviet Russian Nationalist Secular upbringing and values always prevented any emotional kneejerk instinctive sympathy for the Jews and Israel . Posted by: Mustee | Jun 13 2025 16:28 utc | 605 “…do you know that Israel has nuclear weapons?” Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 13 2025 16:29 utc | 606 “Just release the Epstein files with Trump’s name in them.” Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 16:29 utc | 607 So the news on the ground is that Israel keeps attacking and blowing shit up and Iran does nothing? Posted by: Tichy | Jun 13 2025 16:30 utc | 608 MSM keeps pushing stories about Israel’s spy networks in Iran—using Iranian nationals. Look, I back Iran’s strength and actions here 100%. But let’s be real: if some Iranians are willing to sell out to Israel, it’s because they’re that fed up with the regime. No amount of bribes works unless people are already broken inside. Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 16:30 utc | 609 “Greater West Germany has far fewer troops than the GDR and a decaying industrial base.”
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 16:31 utc | 610 5thcolumn | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 267 Posted by: Cynic | Jun 13 2025 16:32 utc | 611 Leaving aside the proliferation of fleas that quickly flock to the scent of blood, this thread will remain as a monument to the hypocrisy and infamy of many “regulars”. Posted by: Harsh | Jun 13 2025 16:33 utc | 612 Anyone confirm these vids? On twitter maybe? Posted by: drinky crow | Jun 13 2025 16:33 utc | 613 Posted by: Ninhvoi | Jun 13 2025 16:27 utc | 610 Posted by: Verdant | Jun 13 2025 16:35 utc | 614 Harsh 443 Posted by: Giyane | Jun 13 2025 16:36 utc | 615 Yes the child-murderers have nuclear bombs and then you have to let them to kill your children without responding to the bully, OK, nice choice. Posted by: Dave F | Jun 13 2025 16:36 utc | 616 “secretive” Posted by: drinky crow | Jun 13 2025 16:39 utc | 617 Seems that Russia did not provide any advance warning of the strike – Either Russia intelligence is totally incompetent or they purposefully withheld information.. probably a mix of both. Posted by: aaaa | Jun 13 2025 16:42 utc | 618 16 mid east countries, all Muslim. Regardless of sect, Muslim faith is by far the strongest uniting force. Iran’s job is to reduce the Persian-Arab disquiet, and convince the others that Israel is intolerable. Rus has a border link, also large Muslim population. They can help, likely will not carry rifles on the LOC. Posted by: JP Straley | Jun 13 2025 16:46 utc | 620 Donald just smugly announced that all the hard liners are dead. Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 13 2025 16:59 utc | 621 President Barzani of Kurdistan is the same as Mahmoud Abbas for Palestine. Posted by: Giyane | Jun 13 2025 16:59 utc | 622 As we saw many times previously it is not really viable to plan to “bomb a nation into submission”. Yemen? Iraq? Afghanistan? Serbia? Ukraine? the Palestinians? Hezbollah? What happened in Syria and Libya is the only way to achieve this – and then you are typically left with a mess. Iran has a lot of resources and fairly advanced military technology. They likely could produce nuclear weapons in short order. They certainly have enough enriched uranium to do so. They are a major player in the world oil and gas markets, they can control the Strait of Hormuz. Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 13 2025 17:01 utc | 623 “Kindly STFU. Those of us antiwar anti-imperialists at MOA tired of being lectured to by moron Trump cultists about how the also Jew owned Democrats are the true responsible group behind every war and that Trump is a MAGA antiwar savior see through your shallow cultist concern trolling.” Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 17:02 utc | 624 So offline, not destroyed Posted by: NewbieAir defences a | Jun 13 2025 17:07 utc | 625 Posted by: Ninhvoi | Jun 13 2025 16:27 utc, who said: Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 13 2025 17:07 utc | 626 Weird logic. Syria was “saved” by the United States as in they overthrew Assad and instated a regime loyal to them. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 13 2025 17:12 utc | 627 President Trump, stop this thing NOW!!! This will destroy the economy and Americans WILL suffer! Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Jun 13 2025 17:13 utc | 628 Please ignore the accident with username @631, paste problem Posted by: Newbie | Jun 13 2025 17:16 utc | 629 Posted by: saner | Jun 13 2025 15:33 utc | 564 Posted by: Mary | Jun 13 2025 17:17 utc | 630 Six pages of bollocks. US commentators on MoA have to understand how the world works. The bad and the Ugly , USUKIS , kicks the shit out of the world’s barflies drinking in the saloon bar. Posted by: Giyane | Jun 13 2025 17:18 utc | 631 @635 Posted by: paddy | Jun 13 2025 17:19 utc | 632 Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 17:20 utc | 633 ‘Whoa. Even [James H] Kunstler is spouting the Israeli propaganda’ — Saner #564 Posted by: Jim H | Jun 13 2025 17:21 utc | 634 Important to keep close watch on events in Gaza and the West Bank. This operation in Iran is also timed to coincide with severe deprivation/strikes on Gaza with the hope of rechanneling RoW attention to Iran. Could Netanyahu who has the complete backing of the country, use this as a means of distracting from the complete obliteration of Gaza and West Bank. Posted by: abierno | Jun 13 2025 17:22 utc | 635 The bad and the Ugly , USUKIS , kicks the shit out of the world’s barflies drinking in the saloon bar. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 13 2025 17:22 utc | 636
Mary Rubio: “Daddy? I didn’t break the vase in the living room. No. It wasn’t me.” Posted by: Webej | Jun 13 2025 17:23 utc | 637 Have you ever considered that the attack on Israel had something to do with the secret documents the Iraqis had captured? Posted by: Wlowdi | Jun 13 2025 17:25 utc | 638 Posted by: chunga | Jun 13 2025 16:21 utc | 602 Posted by: Mary | Jun 13 2025 17:25 utc | 639 Shock and Awe worked, Israeli media is playing the effects to the max. First news are arriving that the impact may not be so deep at a second look. Posted by: SOS | Jun 13 2025 17:26 utc | 641 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Jun 13 2025 17:13 utc | 634 Posted by: Mary | Jun 13 2025 17:28 utc | 642 @610 Posted by: paddy | Jun 13 2025 17:30 utc | 643 So now it is legal all of the sudden, but when Russia claimed Russia was made a laughing stock! Posted by: padre | Jun 13 2025 17:31 utc | 644 So offline, not destroyed Posted by: Mary | Jun 13 2025 17:33 utc | 645 A claim in the NYT, without any supporting detail: Posted by: Jim H | Jun 13 2025 17:41 utc | 646 “Donald just smugly announced that all the hard liners are dead.” Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 17:49 utc | 647 putin speaks on the phone with the iranian leader and with bibi urging them to calm down, if someone lives in the illusion that putin will lift a finger against israel it is better to think again, putin will not lift a finger except to authorize a resolution at the un, Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 13 2025 18:01 utc | 648 Pepe Escobar’s comment on X: Posted by: spudski | Jun 13 2025 18:01 utc | 649 putin speaks on the phone with the iranian leader and with bibi urging them to calm down, if someone lives in the illusion that putin will lift a finger against israel it is better to think again, putin will not lift a finger except to authorize a resolution at the un, Posted by: Cagliostro | Jun 13 2025 18:04 utc | 650 Israel firing interceptors, gave warning a couple minutes ago missiles incoming to tel aviv. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 13 2025 18:10 utc | 651 Live on Newsmax Posted by: UWDude | Jun 13 2025 18:16 utc | 652 remain in shelter order indefinitely given to all Israeli citizens Posted by: UWDude | Jun 13 2025 18:18 utc | 653 the pessimist | Jun 13 2025 17:01 utc | 629 Posted by: Harsh | Jun 13 2025 18:19 utc | 654 russia too late in offering nuclear power stations to Iran that might have diffused the situation likethey assisted Assad by dealing with their chemical weapons?? Though the Infiltrated OPCW and UK were involved in their upsetting this scheme. Posted by: Jo | Jun 13 2025 18:25 utc | 655 It was Marandi some months ago who hinted on a program that Iran should not trust ths Russians, now we see Orlov and Dughin out there basically saying that Iran is on it’s own. Posted by: Silverfoxes | Jun 13 2025 18:31 utc | 656 the absolute hypocracy that the west ie supporters themsselves bought and sold to Isr. are asking Iran to stay calm not escalate…return to diplomacy-yeah just like Iran in good faith negotiations was total subterfuge. Posted by: Jo | Jun 13 2025 18:34 utc | 657 The “ever-helpful” peacenik Putin. Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 13 2025 18:34 utc | 658 Putin is not only correct but strategic in his efforts to restrain Netanyahu and to advise constrained response by Iran. This comes from the same playbook that has allowed Russia to not only win remarkable territorial gains in the Ukraine but also maintain the moral high ground which is critical to international narrative and support. His position is strategic insofar as Israel is crumbling – it is an international pariah, distrusted by all but neoZionists running UK/US/EU; many, many of the professional class (which are significant contributorts to the country) have fled, leaving the Haredi (who do not work) and the rabid settlers; kibbutzim have not returned to either the north or the south; opposition to the Netanyahu government are not only at a cacophony of the people, but also highly capable military/intelligence leaders whom he has sidelined for disagreeing with his engatement in multi front wars which have essentially bankrupted Israel. Iran et al win by drawing out the conflict as long as possible, and directing their efforts to not only military action but in the diplomatic realm and most important the economic realm, especially as regards disruption of energy markets. Posted by: abierno | Jun 13 2025 18:39 utc | 659 RE: Posted by: abierno | Jun 13 2025 18:39 utc | 665 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 13 2025 18:48 utc | 660 Putin is a complicit collaborator with baby killers, no less than SA and rest are. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 13 2025 18:54 utc | 661 Yemeni missile attack: Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 13 2025 18:59 utc | 662 Regarding the role of Russia in all this mess. Posted by: Harsh | Jun 13 2025 19:04 utc | 663 Stalin supported Grandpa Kim of NK from the start in June 1950. Posted by: Ninhvoi | Jun 13 2025 19:05 utc | 664 RE: Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 13 2025 18:54 utc | 667 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 13 2025 19:11 utc | 665 IMO, he’s a double faced, self-interest serving fuck off, like Erdogan. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 13 2025 19:17 utc | 666 RE: Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 13 2025 19:17 utc | 672 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 13 2025 19:26 utc | 667 Verdant | Jun 13 2025 11:52 utc | 302 Posted by: Cynic | Jun 13 2025 19:38 utc | 668 Apparently Israel’s getting a bit of payback now. Let’s see how round 1 goes. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 13 2025 19:43 utc | 669 Live on Newsmax Posted by: Jim H | Jun 13 2025 19:45 utc | 670 IIRC Israel destroyed all of Iran’s air defence sometime last year (but never pressed subsequent attacks). Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 13 2025 19:47 utc | 671 In my not thoroughly thought through opinion, the best move for Russia and Iran would be for Russia to publicly declare, that they have provided Iran with a sufficient number of nuclear weapons to thwart any further Israeli threat. Non-proliferation be damned. Posted by: Chrissie | Jun 13 2025 20:13 utc | 672 Skimming the comments, it seems useful to hark back to some basics. Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 13 2025 20:19 utc | 673 Polli | Jun 13 2025 13:36 utc | 433 Posted by: Cynic | Jun 13 2025 20:27 utc | 674 Posted by: Chrissie | Jun 13 2025 20:13 utc | 678 Posted by: saner | Jun 13 2025 20:28 utc | 675 Anyone hear anything about this ? Posted by: Carl | Jun 13 2025 20:48 utc | 676 Isr Ambassador at U.N. Posted by: Jo | Jun 13 2025 21:04 utc | 677 It’s too bad that shadowbanned was chased off this site, as his analysis against weakness is now completely vindicated. I wonder what he thinks about these developments. Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 13 2025 21:43 utc | 678 Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 13 2025 21:43 utc | 684 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 13 2025 21:55 utc | 679 Putin is a complicit collaborator with baby killers, no less than SA and rest are. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 13 2025 21:56 utc | 680 Iranian Ambassador to Russia: Iran has become the first country in the world to shoot down an F-35 fighter jet. Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 13 2025 21:59 utc | 681 Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 13 2025 21:43 utc | 684 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 13 2025 22:00 utc | 682 To all those who believe otherwise — Posted by: UK Geoff | Jun 13 2025 22:24 utc | 683 To all those who believe otherwise — Posted by: UK Geoff | Jun 13 2025 22:24 utc | 684 Iranian Missiles Strike Tel Aviv: 63 Injured, 100 Homeless in Ramat Gan, Residents Trapped in Collapsed Building Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 13 2025 22:33 utc | 685 Was just reviewing the Daily Mail (it’s a bit spicy re: Canada so) and I wondered if the UK was declaring their involvement in a heavily encrypted way. Iran / Ireland? Ayatollah Khomeini / King Charles? Missiles / ??? Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Jun 13 2025 22:40 utc | 686 abierno | Jun 13 2025 18:39 utc | 665 Posted by: Cynic | Jun 13 2025 22:50 utc | 687 Harsh | Jun 13 2025 19:04 utc | 669 Posted by: Cynic | Jun 13 2025 22:55 utc | 688 Israel’s attack followed the lopsided UN General Assembly vote on a Gaza ceasefire: Posted by: jayc | Jun 13 2025 23:01 utc | 689 Rockets from Iran continue to hit Israeli cities Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 13 2025 23:05 utc | 690 Here’s what I really think. Posted by: True Feelings | Jun 13 2025 23:07 utc | 691 What are they protesting in favour of? Bending over and taking it up the ass from the Zionists? Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Jun 13 2025 23:22 utc | 692 Amir Mousawi: One of the Iranian missiles struck the nuclear research center in Tel Aviv. Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 13 2025 23:50 utc | 693 Only Saudi Arabia hates Iran. The Sauds thought the US would give them power in Syria in the Syrian war, but Russia intervened , not to help Assad but to hold onto their base in Tartus. Posted by: Giyane | Jun 13 2025 23:51 utc | 694 And the gay Khameini and his fatwa against nuclear weapons are also to blame for this… Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Jun 13 2025 23:51 utc | 695
You can go back and read his analysis anytime you want on earlier pages right here. It’s not like it ever changes. His strategy was simple … always escalate faster and harder in every situation. Strangely enough, no one can point out a case where this method works, but every time someone has a problem you hear at least one moron saying, “Ahhh see you didn’t escalate enough”. Posted by: Tel | Jun 14 2025 0:17 utc | 697 You can go back and read his analysis anytime you want on earlier pages right here. It’s not like it ever changes. His strategy was simple … always escalate faster and harder in every situation. Strangely enough, no one can point out a case where this method works, but every time someone has a problem you hear at least one moron saying, “Ahhh see you didn’t escalate enough”. Posted by: Afro | Jun 14 2025 0:33 utc | 698 Nobody actually goes back and reads threads from five years ago. Situations change in a chaotic manner and it’s trivial to see that everybody was wrong on a regular basis. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 0:40 utc | 699 Watched.a few American cable news channels for awhile today. I have never heard the phrase “Israel has the right to defend itself” used so many times in a row. They admit Israel struck Iran first with US help, but somehow it was entirely defensive. Totally. Posted by: teri | Jun 14 2025 0:50 utc | 700 |
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