Counter to my expectations Israel has launched a war against Iran …
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June 13, 2025
USrael’s War On Iran
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@302,
If they were naive after what happened in the last few years, then I don’t think naive is the correct word. Maybe now they stop beating their chest daily with phrases like “we are ready for everything”…
Also, it would help if they figure out soon how did Mossad managed to infiltrate so deeply inside Iran.
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 11:56 utc | 301
Color Revolution underway in Iran.
A huuuuge crowd all with the *same* / identical/ mass produced yellow flag.
Yep. That’s straight out of the Color Revolution playbook.
Mass demonstrations in Iran’s capital Tehran after Israeli strikes.
https://t.me/ClashReport/46128
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 11:56 utc | 302
Verdant @302: “AD was apparently destroyed by Israeli commandos.”
Along with the Russian operators, in the case of the Russian systems?
Oh well, sucks to be them. Not like they can expect any retribution against Israel for their deaths to be coming from Mother Russia.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 11:57 utc | 303
10. June 2025: The president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, proposed that western countries reduce the price at which Russian oil can be sold to $45 (£30) a barrel, down from the current $60.
13. June 2025: Israel bombs Iran, and oil prices soar.
Posted by: Passerby | Jun 13 2025 11:58 utc | 304
Re Iranian Air Defenses (or lack of them):
This shouldn’t matter if Iran’s missile forces are being correctly managed.
It has always been expected that Iran would never have the kind of air defence available to a Western country. Iranian air defence has always been pathetic but it’s military doctrine has never really revolved around it.
It’s been that way for decades.
If they are able to mobilise their missile forces correctly the best defence would be an intensive, sustained missile offence against israel and if necessary, American forces who involve themselves in the conflict.
In sum: At this point the entire fate of Iran hinges on the IRGC rocket, drone and missile forces and less on the Air Defense forces.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:58 utc | 305
see the short videos at the first link
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1933456466499023264
DD Geopolitics @DD_Geopolitics
🇮🇱 Israel published footage shows what appears to be a Mossad-led sabotage operation inside Iran, conducted before the strikes.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933477221122949266
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
“Why hasn’t Iran retaliated yet ?”
Israel has killed many Iranian commanders and sabotaged multiple Missile launch sites.
The main objective of this targeting was obviously to postpone Iran’s direct retaliation, by few hours.
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1933463510618636663
Tiberius @ecomarxi
Israel is a terrorist organisation
https://x.com/MosabAbuToha/status/1933321676269236683
Mosab Abu Toha @MosabAbuToha
The air strikes in Tehran were aimed at buildings and apartments.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 11:59 utc | 306
Were the Iranians perhaps a bit naive?
Posted by: Verdant | Jun 13 2025 11:52 utc | 302
Let’s just ask, how naive or “lulled” do you have to be for a crash like this? William Gruff has more merit for suggesting that Putin simply disabled the air defenses! Which is not justification for that argument, at all, but anyone who stops using their brains (because of NEGOTIATIONS) deserves what happens.
Some countries started thinking that Russian equipment was actually omnipotent, and ended up losing badly. How it goes.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 11:59 utc | 307
“Color Revolution underway in Iran.
A huuuuge crowd all with the *same* / identical/ mass produced yellow flag.
Yep. That’s straight out of the Color Revolution playbook.”
Doesn’t look huge at all. And the way they walk looks more like some paid people who took the money and now went to the street without much care, not people who rage against an evil regime and want to topple it.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 11:59 utc | 308
“Why hasn’t Iran retaliated yet ?”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 11:59 utc | 309
Probably because the keys to the can of woopass were in Gen. Salami’s pocket and they’re still digging him out of a hole.
(apologies for the crude vernacular)
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:00 utc | 309
“USrael deploys Witkoff to stage Potemkin diplomacy with Russia; and USrael deploys Witkoff to sham talks with Iran. This is how it goes in “negotiations” with goons, you see. When will they ever learn: before or after Russia gets walloped like Iran? In this moment, this Friday, Russia will show its colors and know its fate, one way or the other. Should they fail to effectively repudiate USrael at this point, they’re next. They may still have a choice, but not for long. ”
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 13 2025 11:35 utc | 287
100% ! Aleph Null.
Brian Berletic has laid it all out. Brian told the truth 24/7.
2/3rds of the bar and any critical thinker on the planet knew this was the truth. What you have laid out so clearly Aleph_Null.
While on another planet 1/3rd of the bar ( right wing ideologues), the chuckle brothers at the Duran, the Judge and his guests tried to brainwash people to believe Trump was innocent.
That he was a peace President and Europe, MI6 and the people he hand picked himself were holding him back. Which was always complete and utter bullshit.
They all sidelined Brian Berletic as they spread toxic bullshit. Brian was spreading the truth at the New Atlas along with Danny haiphong who always told The truth and what was comming.
The chuckle brothers at the Duran, the Judge and his guests, Ritter and all the rest of them should hang their heads in absolute shame. Now be taken with a pinch of salt. Trump fooled every one of them. They stupidly hung onto his words instead of looking at his actions.
Ritter, Larry Johnson and Ray McGovern must have been shit intelligence analysts. When 2/3rds of the bar already knew the truth.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 13 2025 12:01 utc | 310
Curious that no social media coming out of Israeli regarding the 800 missiles and droned fired by Iran in retaliation. Must be a reason the Likud clamped down
Hmmmm.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 12:01 utc | 311
A huuuuge crowd all with the *same* / identical/ mass produced yellow flag.
Yep. That’s straight out of the Color Revolution playbook.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 11:56 utc | 305
What are they protesting in favour of? Bending over and taking it up the ass from the Zionists?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:03 utc | 312
“While on another planet 1/3rd of the bar ( right wing ideologues), the chuckle brothers at the Duran, the Judge and his guests tried to brainwash people to believe Trump was innocent.”
Trump never looked like letting Israel fall, in contrary.
The real questiojn is, if he will go to open war with Iran over it. If not, Israel got a massive problem anyway…
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:04 utc | 313
Beatrice @311: “…the way they walk looks more like some paid people who took the money and now went to the street without much care, not people who rage against an evil regime and want to topple it.”
Well, yes, that’s how things work in color revolutions. Don’t worry, they will get more energetic once the “mystery snipers” do their part.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 12:05 utc | 314
If they are able to mobilise their missile forces correctly the best defence would be an intensive, sustained missile offence against israel and if necessary, American forces who involve themselves in the conflict.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:58 utc | 308
The whole point of air defense is to prevent critical stores of missiles, drones, and personnel from being vaporized. Without it, Israel is likely to spend all day pounding Iran’s offensive capabilities. And if they’re dumb enough to take a swing at America when they cannot handle Israel, it just might be game ovah, Ayatollah.
Counting on a sustained attack works when your forces don’t have to worry about retaliation. Did you really forget all the lessons of Ukraine? Already?
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:05 utc | 315
“Defeatist mentality of Russia, China and Iran will cost them dearly. All 3 have isolated themselves. Too selfish.”
That’s just dumb trolling at this point, as far away from reality as it is.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:05 utc | 316
Clash Report telegram:
https://x.com/clashreport
IMVHO. Israel understands opsec:
§| NEW: Israel’s Shin Bet has barred all ministers from entering public areas, and from using WhatsApp.
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BIG BREAKING NEWS: Rumors circulate about the death of Quds Force commander Esmail Qaan
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IDF Spokesperson:
“We are closely monitoring Iran’s movements as it prepares to respond to us.”
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Israeli Defense Minister Katz will hold a phone call with his American counterpart Hegseth.
Source: Israeli Army Radio
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Netanyahu now in Greece (?) … his plane flew there.
(IMVHO, I think he’s still in Cyprus…. Or been evacuated from there to a safer haven… maybe UK?)
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BREAKING: Ali Shamkhani, head of Iran’s nuclear program and senior advisor to Supreme Leader Khamenei, has been confirmed killed by Israel.
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SITREP: So far, Israel seems to have deprioritized direct strikes on nuclear facilities, focusing instead on weakening Iran’s air defenses and its ability to retaliate.
This likely reflects the challenge of hitting well-protected underground sites with drones and missiles, as Israel aims to secure air superiority first.
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Trump tells ABC the Israeli attack on Iran was “excellent.”
Says “there’s more to come”
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BREAKING: Israel has planned operations against Tehran over the next 14 days. Source: WSJ
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Trump: Two months ago I gave Iran a 60 day ultimatum to “make a deal.” They should have done it! Today is day 61.
I told them what to do, but they just couldn’t get there.
Now they have, perhaps, a second chance!
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BREAKING: Iran has officially withdrawn from talks with the U.S.
Source: Reuters
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Loud explosion heard near Hamadan, reportedly around Nojeh Air Base.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 12:07 utc | 317
“Well, yes, that’s how things work in color revolutions. ”
No, not really. You need far more than that to work and normally take over real demonstrations or unrests for it and manipulate them in you direction.
Just some people walking on the street for an hour do nothing
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:09 utc | 318
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:18 utc | 252
You have no business calling anyone ignorant when you obviously aren’t too bright yourself.
Russia sends approx 2.5 million barrels per day to China, while (depending on who you believe) Iran exports between 1.5 million and 2 million. There’s no way Russia could make up all the difference.
China could learn to live with less, but that would be a big hit to their lifestyle … they would be pissed.
World oil prices might jump … hypothetical scenario at this stage but not impossible.
Posted by: Tel | Jun 13 2025 12:09 utc | 319
The whole point of air defense is to prevent critical stores of missiles, drones, and personnel from being vaporized. Without it, Israel is likely to spend all day pounding Iran’s offensive capabilities.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:05 utc | 319
In Iran’s case that role was supposed to be fulfilled by deeply buried missile cities and mobile missile systems, not air defence.
It was taken as a given that the IRGC would operate without the luxury of conventionally effective air defences, and use instead hardened, distributed infrastructure to protect their missile forces.
If that doctrine has changed recently, if they’ve somehow become dependent on the illusion of modern air defences against a foe with advanced EW capabilities then it’s a surprise to me …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:09 utc | 320
Iran needs to show that it can protect the people appointed to its leadership positions.
Sure, Khamenei is untouched, but so what? Assad wasn’t targeted either, but years of having their military leadership and enlisted men killed by weekly IDF attacks destroyed SAA morale. And the regime collapsed in a matter of days, despite having pretty good air defenses and military assets. Same with Hezbollah.
Morale is KEY. Unless their (or their families’) lives are directly at risk, soldiers don’t fight unless they believe they have some chance of winning.
If you’re an average Iranian, would YOU fight and die to maintain the status quo in Iran?
This is Israel’s biggest asset… a base of fanatical ethno-supremacists, at home and abroad, who will stop at nothing to maintain and extend Israel’s hegemony. They are shameless liars and murderers. They bribe/blackmail leaders everywhere. They assassinate those they can’t bribe or blackmail. Their home base is tiny and exceedingly difficult to infiltrate and subvert, whereas their victims’ polities are fractured and riven by sectarian and ethnic divisions they can exploit to divide and conquer. They are unabashed racial supremacists, while their proxies encourage large-scale immigration from 3rd world countries into the West to destroy societal cohesion… while they insist Israel has a right to maintain its racial “purity”.
Meanwhile, if you’ve ever worked with middle-easterners, you’ll recognise how useless, lacking in initiative, and unmotivated the vast majority of Muslims are.
Unless something drastically changes, we can expect to see Israel inexorably steamroll the countries around it, killing their citizens and stealing their land.
Posted by: Observer | Jun 13 2025 12:10 utc | 321
Journalist Ayman Hanideq
“A message to the world:
For the second day in a row, communications and the internet remain completely cut off in Gaza. Not a sound comes out, not a picture reaches, not a cry is heard.
More than two million people are trapped in complete darkness, without food, without a means of communication, without the ability to seek help or reassure their loved ones. What is happening in Gaza is unknown, simply because they are prevented from telling the truth.
Don’t let the silence continue.
Speak on their behalf.
Amplify their voices.
Be witnesses when every trace is meant to be erased.”
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 13 2025 12:10 utc | 322
Just saw this quote from George Habash and it reminded me of Yemen.
“We will stand with whoever hits Israel, even if it was with a shoe”
Who is going to stand besides Iran in its hour of need?
Posted by: Georgie | Jun 13 2025 12:10 utc | 323
“The whole point of air defense is to prevent critical stores of missiles, drones, and personnel from being vaporized. ”
By that logic Israel and NATO combined got no air defense, as you can see from the clear evidence from October 2024, wher Iranian missiles just rained down on Israel and that after a long warning and all, no surprise attack or anything.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:10 utc | 324
How many Palestine children are killed and maimed everyday?
How many Israeli children are killed and maimed everyday?
How many American children are killed and maimed everyday?
Netanjahu is dragging out the war, firstly because if the war were to end he would immediately be put on trial and then sent to prison, so he needs the war to go on, and secondly because the genocide against the Palestinians must be carried out slowly, otherwise the world might protest against it (but I doubt that).
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 11:26 utc | 264
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No one is disputing that the IDF are butchers.
As for Bibi, actually he needed the war to end quickly. The internal situation of Israel is profoundly not good, and with a chronic war on his hands he needed to lash out while Israel still can.
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Doomers? Are you 12? Look around. US/Israel/NATO are collecting heads while BRICS countries don’t know which way they are coming or going. China’s tepidity will be its undoing. They are next. India is useless like usual.
Posted by: bored | Jun 13 2025 11:25 utc | 262
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No, are you?
It’s the same repetitive doomer-trolling over and over again.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 12:10 utc | 325
William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 11:41 utc | 293
—-AD was apparently destroyed by Israeli commandos.
^^ this.
I posted a link to Mossad taking out AD.
Mossad crowing and gloating.
Can we say they are —— “dancing”
Dancing Israelis
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 12:11 utc | 327
When Assad was in charge the zionist entity never dared to attack Syria massively in day time, today they are making this to Iran in all the most strategic places of this country it a huge preparation failure all the board, preventing the assessinations of the main military and scientific figures, protecting the strategic sites, protecting the bases and AD systems and even retaliating to the mass waves of air attacks
Posted by: Dave F | Jun 13 2025 12:12 utc | 328
China could learn to live with less, but that would be a big hit to their lifestyle … they would be pissed.
World oil prices might jump … hypothetical scenario at this stage but not impossible.
Posted by: Tel | Jun 13 2025 12:09 utc | 323
China can’t “learn to live with less”. It’s sole value to the world is as a massive factory that must run 24×7 to operate.
Any glitch in the supply, like a loss of half the productive capacity would collapse it’s industry and economy in a matter of weeks.
I wouldn’t want to be the CPC with 1.4 billion hungry, angry mouths to feed – especially considering how fast people get hungry.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:13 utc | 329
– I am sure / I assume Israel is operating from military bases in Iraq or is getting A LOT OF support from those bases.
Posted by: WMG | Jun 13 2025 12:14 utc | 330
Brian was spreading the truth at the New Atlas along with Danny haiphong who always told The truth and what was comming.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 13 2025 12:01 utc | 313
The Duran isn’t a perfect source, but the Alexes could point out that Haiphong’s last video was “If Israel attacks Iran, US Navy is DONE. HUMILIATING DEFEAT.”
Yeah, I’m sure President Trump is quaking while Israel slaps Iran around for a second day. The President’s cautious calls for a deal are going to die out fast if Iran can’t hold back the IDF.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:14 utc | 331
“Ali Shamkhani, head of Iran’s nuclear program and senior advisor to Supreme Leader Khamenei, has been confirmed killed by Israel”
Just a pointless warcrime against a civilian. The idea that this would do anything against Iran’s nuclear program is ridiculous, on the level that it would destroy the EU if you would kill von der Leyen.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:14 utc | 332
Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 11:59 utc | 311
the way they walk looks more like some paid people who took the money and now went to the street without much care
Tell me you have no fucking clue what a Color Revolution looks like…. Without proving you have no fucking clue.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 12:15 utc | 333
A more interesting question though: did Russia know the details of the incoming strike, and did they warn Iran about it?
Remember, Russia repeatedly warned Assad about what’s going to come to him and his country, and yet Assad did nothing, and we know how it ended.
I cannot really imagine a similar situation with regard to Iran, but who knows…
Posted by: Verdant | Jun 13 2025 12:15 utc | 334
By that logic Israel and NATO combined got no air defense, as you can see from the clear evidence from October 2024, wher Iranian missiles just rained down on Israel and that after a long warning and all, no surprise attack or anything.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:10 utc | 328
The US and the UK were quite happy to provide all the theater defense Israel needed at that moment. Unless you’re trying to tell me Russian and Chinese jets stopped the Israeli attack and we just haven’t heard about it yet.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:16 utc | 335
RE: “In sum: At this point the entire fate of Iran hinges on the IRGC rocket, drone and missile forces and less on the Air Defense forces.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:58 utc | 308
I agree.
Adding opinion, all cell ground forces should begin their ground invasions and assaults. It’s the ground forces, with air cover, that will be the lynchpin in victory. All sleeper cells woken up, marches in Capitols, overwhelming ground troops sent directly into West Bank, Tel Aviv.
Power and water supplies knocked out.
Let’s see the 200-300k forces move.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 13 2025 12:17 utc | 336
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 13 2025 12:01 utc | 313
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:14 utc | 335
Listen to the first 20% of Mercouris’ video last night. He is bang on the money, predicting an impending attack, clarifying the potential of a decapitation strike and strike on nuclear facilities.
He was very, very sure this time. Vindicated in a matter of hours.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:18 utc | 337
“Tell me you have no fucking clue what a Color Revolution looks like…. Without proving you have no fucking clue.”
You just did, I guess.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:18 utc | 338
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 6:38 utc | 9
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A pipe dream. The region will blow in flames. Are you ready?
Posted by: pepe | Jun 13 2025 12:19 utc | 339
“The US and the UK were quite happy to provide all the theater defense Israel needed at that moment. Unless you’re trying to tell me Russian and Chinese jets stopped the Israeli attack and we just haven’t heard about it yet.”
You don’t seem to understand the problem. Even with all that help from NATO, clear warning and a very limited attacked, they were not able to stop the attack of Iran and Iran alone, no help needed.
So what does this tell you about western air defense, hm?
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:20 utc | 340
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 11:56 utc | 305
Interesting that they chose the color yellow.
Posted by: Mary | Jun 13 2025 12:20 utc | 341
Power and water supplies knocked out.
Let’s see the 200-300k forces move.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 13 2025 12:17 utc | 340
If the hierarchy has been compromised as much as it appears, even a force of 1000 000 would useless – lions led by sheep.
Here the IRGC needs to operate like the original IRGC – A partly decentralised force capable of fighting independent of central command.
Unfortunately, looking at the bunch of replacements Khamenei just brought in I think we have lions led by goats …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:21 utc | 342
@325,
Spot on. One of the best comments I’ve read here on MoA since this mess started.
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 12:22 utc | 343
It was taken as a given that the IRGC would operate without the luxury of conventionally effective air defences, and use instead hardened, distributed infrastructure to protect their missile forces.
If that doctrine has changed recently, if they’ve somehow become dependent on the illusion of modern air defences against a foe with advanced EW capabilities then it’s a surprise to me …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:09 utc | 324
If the S-400 isn’t a serious modern air defence, Russia owes Iran a refund. For that matter, if Iran can “harden” its missile forces, as opposed to making them very mobile, why not do the same for the air defence?
Sure it’s hard to attack heavily fortified ammo storage or nuclear facilities… But it hasn’t stopped Israel so far, and it won’t as long as they have air superiority. The apparently non-existent perimeter certainly won’t stop B2 bombers.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:22 utc | 344
Alistair Crooke another fucking idiot who tried to brainwash people into believing Trump was innocent.
When the obvious was on the end of people’s noses.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 13 2025 12:24 utc | 345
You don’t seem to understand the problem. Even with all that help from NATO, clear warning and a very limited attacked, they were not able to stop the attack of Iran and Iran alone, no help needed.
So what does this tell you about western air defense, hm?
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:20 utc | 344
Oh, so Iran’s going to be fine. I mean, they’ll be able to mount a vastly superior attack any moment now.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:25 utc | 346
If the S-400 isn’t a serious modern air defence, Russia owes Iran a refund.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:22 utc | 348
That’s the 6-million dollar question right now.
Or …
Could it be …
That no air defence was actually ever delivered by Russia?
Could it be that all that shuffle-dancing between Moscow and Teheran was just diplomatic posturing? Rumours and bullshit?
I mean, how would we know either way?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:25 utc | 347
First USIS carries out a cowardish surprise attack, then when Iran is readying itself to respond we have the usual suspects calling for restraint. This follows earlier war scenario’s like Iraq and Libya where Western opponents are pressured into fighting with both hands tight behind their backs. Unless Iran’s military power is severely degraded, I expect a first devastating blow after dark.
The US client colonial Arab regimes have been a blight on the middle east for decades. Their complicity in the Gaza holocaust can only be missed by the blind. I assume Iran won’t spare any military/intelligence/… assets in the region in an attempt to release the colonial shackles (Iraq, Jordan, …) so the masses can liberate themselves. This war on Iran is obviously existential.
I take it Russia and China won’t sit idly by and miss this golden opportunity to deal a decisive blow to the US empire of which Israel is just an outpost. The Caspian Sea as a supply route can’t be severed like Syria could. It would only alleviate the pressure on the Eastern front and Taiwan could be reunited without firing a shot.
Posted by: xor | Jun 13 2025 12:25 utc | 348
He was very, very sure this time. Vindicated in a matter of hours.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:18 utc | 341
It’s kind of shocking that Mercouris had a much better grasp of military potential here than Larry Johnson and Doug MacGregor did. But then, he’s generally very cautious about discussing Israeli issues. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn he has ties to them.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:27 utc | 349
new strikes reported by is real hell on Iran’s main reactor now. this is full out war by zios against iran, with full trump backing.
they just attacked Iran’s nuclear civilian power plant! radiation outbound?
absolutely insane.
i agree, Iran’s only hope is for the irgc to launch as many saturated missiles immediately, and not stop.
but I suspect, as many have stated, Iran’s government is completely compromised and sold out.
so here’s the big one!
what intelligence did iran supposedly receive/ hack / acquire a few days ago?
I’m guessing it was an intentional misdirection play by mossad, intentionally leaking it to Iran, and completely fooled them!?
Posted by: CryptoAlchemist | Jun 13 2025 12:28 utc | 350
Sounds like the IDF/IAF can only handle14 days of intense fighting against Iran.
Reminder – total supression of social media inside Israel. That 800 missile-drone reprisal strike musta been a doozy
Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 12:29 utc | 351
All early news will be false. My first impression is the biggest part of this episode is information operations.
If Iran seriously has no credible response and no allies we are already in Hell. Right now no good way of knowing if that is true.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 13 2025 12:29 utc | 352
Took them a while
Finally, Iran’s air defense has started working.
“>https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/55713
Iranian ballistic missile launchers have appeared in the provinces of Hamadan, Hormuzgan and Fars.
They are reporting an attack is being prepared.
“>https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/55713
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 13 2025 12:30 utc | 353
RE: “Unfortunately, looking at the bunch of replacements Khamenei just brought in I think we have lions led by goats …”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:21 utc | 346
Agreed.
Been disappointed more than once the last few years.
I wouldn’t mind being surprised by the “surprises” supposedly coming.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 13 2025 12:31 utc | 354
Could it be …
That no air defence was actually ever delivered by Russia?
Could it be that all that shuffle-dancing between Moscow and Teheran was just diplomatic posturing? Rumours and bullshit?
I mean, how would we know either way?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:25 utc | 351
That’s a good question. The easiest way to refute it would be Israeli and American jets being blasted out of the sky by Iran or its allies.
The best concurring evidence is Sergei Lavrov bravely insisting that HTS was “inadmissible” in Syria. The poor Assad loyalists who took him at all seriously were slaughtered. So was he being manipulative, or genuinely clueless about the state of the Ba’ath Party? Which is worse?
So what does it say when Russia won’t bother helping its last main ally in the Middle East?
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:31 utc | 355
“Israel does not have the means to attack Iran”, wrote our very bitter host only yesterday.
This aged like milk.
Schuster, bleib bei deinem Leisten.
Posted by: John Jay | Jun 13 2025 12:31 utc | 356
But then, he’s generally very cautious about discussing Israeli issues. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn he has ties to them.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 12:27 utc | 353
No, he hates them.
He used to speak more freely before the YouTube censors started clamping down during the Covid era. He went through a rough patch of getting booted off youtube a few times until he mentioned to everyone that he’d have to start watching his words from now on.
If you listen to him regularly like I do you’ll hear he mentions how he is carefully avoiding a topic or choosing his words carefully.
Living in the belly of the beast has made him more cautious since what happened to Assange (whom he publicly supported and helped for many years).
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:32 utc | 357
AL-JAZEERA: France called on all parties to exercise restraint after the Israeli attack on Iran, but affirmed that Israel has the right to defend itself in the face of all attacks, and that Paris has repeatedly expressed its concern regarding the Iranian nuclear program.
Posted by: JB | Jun 13 2025 12:34 utc | 358
Could it be …
That no air defence was actually ever delivered by Russia?
Could it be that all that shuffle-dancing between Moscow and Teheran was just diplomatic posturing? Rumours and bullshit?
I mean, how would we know either way?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:25 utc | 351
There was a satellite photo of Pantsir posted a few days ago. Both Pantsir and S-400 can do little to counter low flying fpv drones launched from nearby if they have no crew with small arms/counter drone weapons/ew prepared for that.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/150855
First confirmed evidence that Iranian forces are operating Russian-made Pantsir-S1 air defense systems.
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 13 2025 12:37 utc | 359
Isn’t it amazing that the little State of Israel, which our host and many others told us cannot afford a sustained campaign against Hamas, and cannot afford another campaign against Lebanon, and “does not have the means to attack Iran”, has actually the means and the ability to do all three, and with great effectiveness?
Boy, somebody lives in a parallel reality here.
If Iran does not launch a very strong attack on Israel in the next very few days, it will be clear to the dumbest reader here that all the advertised strength of Iran is a fantasy and a delusion of Ukrainian proportions. And no, “measured answer” and “diplomacy” will not be an excuse.
Israel is clearly asking – and forcing – Iran to show what it’s got.
If it’s not what was advertised, their prestige and influence in the region will be severely damaged, and the humiliation will be one for the ages.
Posted by: John Jay | Jun 13 2025 12:38 utc | 360
Finally, Iran’s air defense has started working.
https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/55713
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 13 2025 12:30 utc | 357
If true, I’ve been expecting this (If not, then I’ve been wrong 🙂 ).
Whatever israel pulled off to get the decapitation strike done was a one-time trick, like most of their tactics.
After that, the question is whether they can go the whole twelve rounds slugging it out with a heavy-weight with conventional power.
If Iran hasn’t been knocked out in this round, it’s going to be a long decade.
Because if israel + Uncle Sugar haven’t been able to wipe out little Hamas in 2 years then they won’t be able to wipe out Iran in 2 decades.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:38 utc | 361
Fuck Lindsay Graham.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 7:04 utc | 25
But, isn’t that giving him what he wants?
Posted by: Clever Dog | Jun 13 2025 12:41 utc | 362
i retract my above statement about the nuclear power plant, i think was fake news. my apologies.
that said, the zionist nuclear intelligence, Or, as i suspect misinformation. that part of the comment i stand by
Posted by: CryptoAlchemist | Jun 13 2025 12:42 utc | 363
@359,
Frankly I do hope that Russia didn’t provide yet. Because if they did, and considering what has happened in last 24 hours, it doesn’t look good for them as well when NATO will inevitably attack them. Especially against F-35s or any other high tier planes. And I know RU has better air force as well than what Iran has but still, not a great picture.
There are no credible evidences that RU provided substantial AD like S-400 or any other top AD systems. Mostly I’ve seen Pantsir systems which are not necessarily something that Israel is not already familiar with (considering that Syria already had them).
I have said it after Syria that Russia & China cannot stay idle when it comes to Iran .. if they do, than maybe they deserve to lose in the end. Multipolar world wont happen if there is no way to actually enforce it when necessary. But I do agree that Iran has its fair share of blame for the current situation. They should also show that they have the fighting capability for more than 10-14 days considering their initial setbacks.
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 12:43 utc | 364
Israel is clearly asking – and forcing – Iran to show what it’s got.
Posted by: John Jay | Jun 13 2025 12:38 utc | 364
Why are they asking *now* though, and why not when Iran was even weaker in the past 20 years?
I think it’s because israel is desperate.
The wheels are coming off the clown cart.
“When all else fails, they take you to war”
As for resources to fight Hamas: israel has proven that it doesn’t have them. What you’re seeing now is a full life support line from Uncle Sugar. That lifeline stops and israel goes under in a few days.
Curtains.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:44 utc | 365
The final defeat of Restraint and Appeasement…..or will China and Russia step up with at least one fig leaf?
Cheers M
…..little shit hole smashes all around them and no one lifts a finger out of the jar……
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 13 2025 12:45 utc | 366
Come on … keep calm and don’t feed the trolls please. Most of them are bots and LLMs spiting propaganda anyway.
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 13 2025 12:46 utc | 367
Whatever happens, I just want to say I’m disgusted by Jordanians and their government. Phucking useless Israeli/US ball lickers. I hope the “king” gets his in hell.
Posted by: bored | Jun 13 2025 12:47 utc | 368
Schuster, bleib bei deinem Leisten.
Posted by: John Jay | Jun 13 2025 12:31 utc | 360
Es heisst „deinen Leisten“, nicht „deinem Leisten“.
Posted by: NoName | Jun 13 2025 12:47 utc | 369
see the 5:07 video of Wesley Clark at the first link
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1933397548217123125
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
as Israel and the US have launched their depraved murderous war on Iran, remember that genocidal Zionists have been preparing it for a long time, and had set the target for Iran after their destruction of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Somalia and Sudan. It was all planned out:
the genocidal Israeli death cult and Netanyahu played a crucial role in preparing the genocidal war on Iraq, which Zionists had made one of their targets for state collapse alongside Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia:
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1933498486139367710
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
⚡️🇮🇷BREAKING: Unofficial statistics: 329 injured and 78 martyred in brutal Israeli attacks on residential and military areas in Tehran province, Iran.—FarsNews.
https://x.com/AryJeay/status/1933499265969508554
Arya – آریا @AryJeay
🇮🇷🇮🇱| Concrete:
• Israel killed almost all major first line commanders of Iran
• Disabled some crucial air defenses via kamikaze drones from within Iran
• Attacked some missile launchers
= Iran’s immediate counter-attack has been delayed.
-> Iran is currently re-organising, patching leaks, commanders drawing up their next set of plans
-> After military plans are set: Diplomatic level will be made aware of the options
-> Initiate plan
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 12:48 utc | 370
Also, same pattern as in Russia. Everybody is in the right place to film attacks in Iran. Be it airports/airbases/storage bases and so on. Impressive(Not).
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 12:49 utc | 371
Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:38 utc | 365
Thats about it. If Iran can absorb this initial attack and start striking back then it might be a different story.
In Thai boxing – the thai start when the kids, about seven year olds. A number of western go there to learn as wel. First thing there tested for is whether or not they can absorb punishment and keep going.
Same thing in war. Much depends on having the depth to absorb a surprise attack. Isreal seems to be counting on a knockout initial blow.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 12:49 utc | 372
All early news will be false. My first impression is the biggest part of this episode is information operations.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 13 2025 12:29 utc | 356
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Agreed.
In a week or so we’ll see who is too far out over their skis.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 13 2025 12:51 utc | 373
“Oh, so Iran’s going to be fine. I mean, they’ll be able to mount a vastly superior attack any moment now.”
Why should Iran be fine? It was attacked by fascist regime that is covered by a fascist empire and its facist alliance.
Of course it is not “fine”.
But the idea that you could 100% deflect such a cowardish attack with all forced is ridiculous stupid.
Israel with all NATO support could not deflect a limited attack on it without any surprise, so how perfectly divine should Iran by in your eyes to do much better against a full force attack without any warning and that alone?
None of you even know how many of the missiles were intercepted. From the quite few strikes we saw, a lot.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:52 utc | 374
-> Iran is currently re-organising, patching leaks, commanders drawing up their next set of plans
-> After military plans are set: Diplomatic level will be made aware of the options
-> Initiate plan
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 12:48 utc | 374
That’s really bad news.
These kinds of contingencies should have been in place already for immediate, rapid execution – a result of intensive wargaming and simulation exercises over years.
Even the loss of the entire leadership should trigger a succession protocol, a retaliation protocol within a “DEFCON” type framework.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:54 utc | 375
It appears that Israel used the same MO that Ukraine used to attack Russian strategic assets – infiltrate drones in country close to targets to minimize potential response time. Targets were AD and assassinations. Now we wait to see what kind of response Iran can muster.
Over the years the Israelis have managed to get Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, and Syria destroyed or neutered. Now Iran. Palestinians decimated, Yemen bombed repeatedly. Patient and vicious they are.
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 13 2025 12:54 utc | 376
Patient and vicious they are.
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 13 2025 12:54 utc | 381
With all the money in the world you can be that way.
The Rich do as they please while the Poor suffer what they must …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:57 utc | 377
Humanity is in grave danger from the global malignancies of Great Satan and Little Satan and it will take strong medicine to fight them off. Unless the civilized world comes together to amputate this threat it will die.
Posted by: chunga | Jun 13 2025 12:59 utc | 378
Clash Report telegram:
Unofficial toll: 78 killed, 329 injured in Israel’s attack on residential areas in Tehran.
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Trump’s envoy Witkoff still wants to meet with Iranian Foreign Minister Araghchi on Sunday, but the Iranians have confirmed their unwillingness.
Source: Axios
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Israeli Air Force launches new strikes on Tabriz.
Massive explosions.
Multiple secondary fires after Israeli jets reportedly hit a missile site in Tabriz
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~ Israeli security source: Mossad executed three different operations in Iran:
>In central Iran, Mossad commando units deployed precision-guided weapons systems in open areas near Iranian surface-to-air missile systems.
With the start of the Israeli attack, parallel to air force strikes throughout Iran, these systems were trained and activated, and precision missiles were launched directly at targets simultaneously with high accuracy.
>In another operational campaign to disrupt Iranian air defense capabilities that threaten Israeli fighter aircraft, Mossad secretly deployed advanced offensive systems and technologies on vehicles.
With the start of the surprise attack, weapons were launched and completely destroyed the attack targets – Iranian defense systems.
>In the third campaign, Mossad established an explosive drone base that had infiltrated deep into Iran long before the Mossad agents’ attack.
During the Israeli attack, explosive drones were activated and launched at surface-to-ground missile (SGM) launch platforms located at Ashfaq Abad base near Tehran, which posed a threat to strategic targets and Israeli citizens.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 12:59 utc | 379
It’s going to be interesting to see how many here grow hairs back on their chests if Iran actually does hit Israel back really hard – when it rationally decides to rather than when emotions see fit like many would like to see here.
Posted by: George | Jun 13 2025 10:44 utc | 222
Exactly. If Iran isn’t doing X, Y or Z it could be as simple as them realising that that’s how Israel and its vassals want them to react.
Posted by: Red Star | Jun 13 2025 12:59 utc | 380
It also seems Trump suckered the Iranians into believing he had the Israelis in check when they were simply waiting to spring the trap.
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 13 2025 13:01 utc | 381
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 13 2025 12:54 utc | 381
The other way around.
Hohols used the same method as the jews.
The banderreich adventure inside Russia was the dress rehearsal.
Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 13 2025 13:01 utc | 382
To keep the thread focused and useful, it is best to refrain from spreading rumors and amplifying US/Israel psyops.
It doesn’t serve any good purpose to just post anything you come across.
Patience and sticking to proven reliable sources is sufficient, because much of what is circulating now is unreliable and not information.
Posted by: JB | Jun 13 2025 13:01 utc | 383
MSM keeps pushing stories about Israel’s spy networks in Iran—using Iranian nationals. Look, I back Iran’s strength and actions here 100%. But let’s be real: if some Iranians are willing to sell out to Israel, it’s because they’re that fed up with the regime. No amount of bribes works unless people are already broken inside.
Posted by: Cable Guy | Jun 13 2025 13:02 utc | 384
But the idea that you could 100% deflect such a cowardish attack with all forced is ridiculous stupid.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 12:52 utc | 379
I never said that, sweetie. You’re applying the Zelensky imagination standard to a serious situation. But if Iran had the same kind of layered air defense Russia has in Ukraine? There’s a reason every attack on the Kerch Bridge failed completely. So while expecting high success of a missile shield should be fine after Ukraine, I’d settle for “a notable amount.” Your problem is that Iran hasn’t done much against major Israeli strikes.
By contrast, Israel is hitting Iranian nuclear sites, senior leaders, and especially the SAMs. Contra Danny Haiphong, the day Middle Eastern forces tag a guided missile cruiser will be the last day the US Navy operates anywhere without a dedicated coastal missile shield.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 13:02 utc | 385
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 12:25 utc | 351
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 13 2025 12:37 utc | 363
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 12:43 utc | 368
Here’s Iran saying they don’t need Russian S400s because their domestic air defense systems were “superior” from 2024.
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202411171565
I assume this means the Pezeshkian government axed the negotiations with Russia to acquire S400 started by the previous government.
Posted by: Ninhvoi | Jun 13 2025 13:04 utc | 386
https://www.rt.com/news/619058-israel-strikes-iran-updates/
12:46 GMT
Israel managed to trick Iran’s top air force commanders into convening at a meeting in one place only to be taken out by a single strike, an unnamed official told Fox News, adding that the overall campaign went more successfully than anticipated.
“We carried out specific activities to help us learn more about them, and then used that information to influence their behavior,” the official said. “We knew this would lead them to meet – but more importantly, we knew how to keep them there.”
Posted by: Mary | Jun 13 2025 13:05 utc | 387
@378
The Houthi will send Iran their air defenses that defeated the USN and USAF last month!
Posted by: paddy | Jun 13 2025 13:06 utc | 388
Israel attacks Iran….Iran blusters but does nothing of any significance in response.
Seen this movie before.
Just IMO, but Iran f’ed up big time. I am now convinced they are led by idiots.
Israel intends to destroy Iran. This is not a secret. Yet Iran is incredibly lackadaisical about command level security and national security, as made obvious by yesterday.
If they don’t get on the ball and actually deal with Israel once and for all, they are too stupid to survive, and won’t.
All their bragging about 10s of thousands of missiles in the past? Somebody remind the twits that having missiles is not the same as having the balls to actually use them effectively. More to the point, use them effectively to destroy Israel’s ability to wage war, not ‘demonstrate’ capabilities or ‘send a message’.
Posted by: saner | Jun 13 2025 13:06 utc | 389
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺
@ejmalrai
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Israel said it has completed the attack on all missiles warhouses and manufacturing industry. Iran’s missile response will confirm or deny this claim.
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Sounds like ythe zionists have hit all above ground manufacturing and storage sites they know about.
From what I have seen in the past, Iran has a lot of stuff stored deep underground. If they have, I gess that will be being wheeled out to firing positions now.
A few potholes in all israeli airstrips for a start wouldn’t go astray and keep them potholed to keep the planes grounded. Then Iran can pick off other targets at will. Everything Israel has is air launched.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 13:07 utc | 390
it’s because they’re that fed up with the regime. No amount of bribes works unless people are already broken inside.
Posted by: Cable Guy | Jun 13 2025 13:02 utc | 389
That’s the beauty of sanctions: You can starve a nation to the brink of death and then blame it on “The Regime”.
Except that when “The Regime” is gone and you’re getting your head lopped off by ISIS you’ll wish you’d put a little more thought into things.
If you’re so fed up with the regime that you’re willing to turn it into Libya then something is seriously wrong with you. It’s not “The Regime”, you’re just a corrupt panhandler who’d sell his own mother for a shekel.
I get the feeling many in Iraq, Syria, Libya are slowly beginning to understand that. Too late, unfortunately.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 13:08 utc | 391
Posted by: Cable Guy | Jun 13 2025 13:02 utc | 389
I stopped reading at “MSM keeps pushing”. MSM is the primary information warfare actor in situations like these. Whatever they say it is poison laced in sugar. If anytime I read MSM, it’s only to know what the US empire wants the mindless gullible drones to believe.
If we were to believe MSM, operation True Promise II only managed to hit a few rocks.
Posted by: xor | Jun 13 2025 13:11 utc | 392
“Disappointed (especially on statements done by China) but not entirely surprised. We are a long way from any meaningful change on the hegemony front.
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 7:59 utc | 81”
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AI–
Overall Trade:
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China is Israel’s third-largest trading partner overall, after the European Union and the United States.
Profit motive overwhelms any inklings of morality. If people don’t organize to get rid of capitalism, we truly are living on The Late Great Planet Earth.
Posted by: Linda | Jun 13 2025 13:11 utc | 393
“Israel does not have the means to attack Iran”, wrote our very bitter host only yesterday.
This aged like milk.
Posted by: John Jay
Yes, that was naive. Israel has the entire US war machine at its disposal.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 13:11 utc | 394
Intel Slava
🇮🇷🇮🇱⚡️Chemical and radioactive contamination detected at Natanz facility (c) Behrouz Kamalvandi, Assistant Director General of Iran’s Atomic Energy Agency
That’s what I was saying. Heavy bunker buster missiles are not good for nuclear facilities. And those huge plumes of smoke are pure poison.
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Posted by: Mary | Jun 13 2025 13:12 utc | 396
Iranian ballistic missile launchers now emerging in Hamadan, Hormuzgan, Fars provinces.
Will not share footage to protect operational integrity.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19490
Launchers moving above ground in Ilam, Western Azerbaijan, Lorestan, Kermanshah.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19491
High command has been isolated into clusters of no more than two commanders, spread over different locations and communicating only by landline and carriers.
Command structure, despite extremely heavy hits, is operational.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19493
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 13:12 utc | 397
“There’s a reason every attack on the Kerch Bridge failed completely. ”
That would be that Ukraine does not have over 200 fighters jets thye can use for such an attack.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 13:14 utc | 398
Mary | Jun 13 2025 13:05 utc | 392
Same as the exploding pagers in Lebanon. It hit the hospitals and so forth run by hezbollah. When some of the leadership met over the situation, Israel struck.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 13:15 utc | 399
@Mary | Jun 13 2025 13:12 utc | 401
There is NO official statement about radiation leakage from Natanz.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19489
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 13:15 utc | 400