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June 13, 2025
USrael’s War On Iran

Counter to my expectations Israel has launched a war against Iran …

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Old clip of Khamenei promising to level Tel Aviv if israel strikes Iran:
“if Israel makes the mistake, we will level Tel Aviv and Haifa to the ground.”
https://youtu.be/6_e_tknVQlg?si=TShjxSAnz7ymKKR2
Will he hold true to his word?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 10:19 utc | 201

What will Larry Johnson, the Duran, Ray McGovern and Scott Ritter say ?
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 13 2025 10:19 utc | 200
Hopefully they’ll stop talking about how absolutely impenetrable Iranian air defenses are. Then again, Larry Johnson was assuring us American pilots were going to be dragged through Tehran soon.
Pro-tip: if Russians aren’t attacking American planes near Ukraine, they’re definitely not doing it for Iran.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 10:23 utc | 202

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 10:23 utc | 202
“Bro-tips” are for pussies.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 10:24 utc | 203

And now you see why everyone wants to joine NATO or at least form an alliance with America. If you obey the US and let them exploit your country, you get to keep what’s left of your country. If you speak up or dare to resist, you’ll rule over the ashes of your country (assuming you survive). Russia and Iran are finding out. China is next.

Posted by: bored | Jun 13 2025 10:26 utc | 204

Posted by: Englishman | Jun 13 2025 10:16 utc | 199 “Has it not crossed your mind that those Drones could be to overwhelm Israeli air defences before the Ballistic missiles are launched?”
Absolutely, but Iron Dome has nothing to do with ballistic missile defense. That would be up to a number of other systems. But even the drones can cause a lot of damage. And according to reports the Iranian drones are being tracked and or shot down over Syria, Iraq, Jordan and even, hard to believe, Saudi Arabia. But the purported number of Iranian drones launched is not that high yet.
Iran doesn’t have to launch a massive retaliation now. They do it the same way the Houthis are, fire a small number of missiles/drones irregularly into Israel over a long period of time. Iran is way to big and far away for Israel to carry this kind of aerial assault for long.
Also a video that claims to show and IDF refueling tanker over Syria is here: https://x.com/i/status/1933461555691090362

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 13 2025 10:27 utc | 205

Posted by: bored | Jun 13 2025 10:26 utc | 204
Yea those poor Russians and their ashes. Ruble stronger than ever, absolute impunity from weak NATO, thriving economy. Now compare to Israel… Or the UK.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 10:28 utc | 206

reply to 179
There would be some value gained if Israel triggered a cutoff of oil supplies. These wars – as with Ukraine – have too little effect on national populations. They have no skin in the game or care about the matter. $5 a gallon gas might help wake them up.
This war helps Russia – with less attention to Ukraine, weapons diverted (air defense?) and higher oil prices. Iran should be building hypersonics like crazy or inventing radar drone diversion tactics. Israel has plenty of good targets.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 13 2025 10:29 utc | 207

Why would Iran launch only 100 drones 🤔 100 isn’t enough to overwhelm the multiple layers of air defense systems.
Maybe they launched them to check what air defenses are active, and who will intervene during the real attack ? 👀
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 9:15 utc | 158

This.
A cheap way to determine the veracity of the US claims ‘we didn’t do it’ and NATO calls for de-escalation.
Shown to be bollocks, so game on.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 13 2025 10:30 utc | 208

Trump THREATENS Iran after Israeli strikes: ‘They are all DEAD now, and it will only get worse!’
Says Israel has ‘the most lethal military equipment’ and warns of ‘more brutal’ attacks to come
Urges Iran to ‘make a deal’: ‘JUST DO IT, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE’

https://t.me/rtnews/98989

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 10:30 utc | 209

Look….
Israel and Iran and Ukraine and Russia is the exact same US foreign policy play book.
I’ve tried to explain it a hundred times. Several months ago we had the following ..
First came the assasination attempts , then came the terrorist attacks and then the strike. Then came America calling up Iran asking them for the response to be limited.
Then last week we had …
First came the assasination attempts , then came the terrorist attacks and then the strike. Then came America calling up Russia asking them for the response to be limited.
Both times they denied any responsibility first time under Biden. Second time under Trump.
Now we have …
The strikes to try and get leverage and bring Iran to the table. Exactly like last week and the strikes on Russia to try and get leverage over Russia in the talks.
Yet, we have fucking moron after moron trying to say Trump didn’t know since Sunday which is ridiculous.
Brian Berletic has been right all along.
When are Larry Johnson, the Duran, Ray McGovern and Scott Ritter and the Judge and his guests going to wake up to these facts. Trump has made a fool out of them all.
When are people who drink at this bar who has defended Trump no matter what now apologise to the bar for being so stupid?

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 13 2025 10:30 utc | 210

Israeli media has quoted security officials as saying that three coordinated operations formed the basis of its attack on Iran overnight.
1. Commando teams sent into Iran
Special Mossad units entered Iran to deploy precision-guided weapons, in open areas near the location of Iranian surface-to-air missile systems. As the Israeli Air Force launched its air strikes, these were activated and precision strikes were launched simultaneously.
2. Strike systems planted in civilian vehicles
Mossad covertly planted attack technologies in civilian vehicles across Iran. When the operation commenced, these launched powerful munitions at their assigned targets.
3. Covert drone base established inside Iran
Mossad established a secret base of explosive-laden drones in the heart of Iran, smuggling them in long before the strike. During the overnight attack, these were activated and launched at Iranian surface-to-surface missile launchers.
An Israeli security source told Israel National News that the plIsraeli media has quoted security officials as saying that three coordinated operations formed the basis of its attack on Iran overnight.
1. Commando teams sent into Iran
Special Mossad units entered Iran to deploy precision-guided weapons, in open areas near the location of Iranian surface-to-air missile systems. As the Israeli Air Force launched its air strikes, these were activated and precision strikes were launched simultaneously.
2. Strike systems planted in civilian vehicles
Mossad covertly planted attack technologies in civilian vehicles across Iran. When the operation commenced, these launched powerful munitions at their assigned targets.
3. Covert drone base established inside Iran
Mossad established a secret base of explosive-laden drones in the heart of Iran, smuggling them in long before the strike. During the overnight attack, these were activated and launched at Iranian surface-to-surface missile launchers.
An Israeli security source told Israel National News that the plans were ‘years in the making.
Commentators on RT saying this is complete failure by Iran intelligence considering the recent warnings of attacks, so other covert objectives else have they done prior that are now installed wound up and ready to trigger off in further actions, surely to insight fear mistrust division in Iranian society and government.Conquer and divide, as Iranians will be furious against the lack of a follow up by Iran against Isr’s previous attack.And that Isr. clearly uses USA in a subterfuge cover good cop over their own intentions. Will Americans realise they have been bought and sold out and have lost their country to be owned and manipulated by another? As have UK politicians and institutions.Plans years in the making….again? Do both know they have been so regarded and misused?
So Net destroys any negotiations, clearly DT knew re his ref to some people not coming back. Isr proveably owns USA politicians and military…Russia is now confirmed surely that it disbelieves DT denial it knew of the Ukrainian attack on nuclear triad, and the methods of attack stated above have so many parallels similarities with the methods of attack, seems most apparent that UK forces are highly involved in partnership with IDF, and that the UK sanctions against the two Isr ministers were only a symbolic gesture saying they gone a bit too far out of hand and to keep quiet about their intentions to avoid British public knowledge becoming an embarrassment to the government.
So Isr. continually breaks agreements with Lebanon hundreds of times , is still involved in Syria, still genociding and ethnociding against Palestinians,
Russia now does what..disavows it’s relations with Isr, complains at UN.?Promises support to Iran, Isr. having all its arrogance and psychopathic tendencies know cock of the walk, king of the castle, top dog ?
I had a vague idea that Iran had been waiting to see what else Isr. might attempt to prove the point how evil it is, to justify further reaction…but f so, delusionally has most greviously suffered.Has it sufficient reserve not to go quietly into the nightmare even more?

Posted by: Jo | Jun 13 2025 10:33 utc | 211

https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1933461168103780499
— GEROMAN — time will tell – 👀 — @GeromanAT
Axios, citing an Israeli official:
We received a clear American green light to attack Iran.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1933454834885099648
Lord Bebo @MyLordBebo
🇮🇷🇮🇱 Israel hid not only drones on Iranian territory, but also missiles and air defense suppression devices, which were activated tonight, Israeli journalist Amit Segal said, citing sources.
According to him, Mossad agents placed missiles near anti-aircraft systems in central Iran, which were attacked at night.
Also, special devices (apparently, electronic warfare) were installed on vehicles to disable Iranian air defense.
And the hidden drone base was near Tehran. UAVs attacked surface-to-surface missile launchers at the Asfaqabad military base.
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1933418883530240117
Patarames @Pataramesh
9: Shahed-136/-131 and their decoys
Worlds most famous one-way-attack drone
Keeps the opposing airforces busy, which is a key defeat mechanism
It can also hit targets if it comes through or the opposing airpower is degraded via other means…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 10:35 utc | 212

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 10:28 utc | 206
Did you forget the thousands (tens of thousands?) of dead and maimed Russian soldiers? Russia is isolated economically. They are taking down Russia’s allies one by one. The BRICS alliance is meaningless both militarily and financially. Nothing short of a LITERAL Act of God is saving this world from the US and its vassals (NATO). Who here, 6 months ago, would have thought Trump would be even worse for the world than the senile Biden? Yet look where we are at now.

Posted by: bored | Jun 13 2025 10:36 utc | 213

“Russia’s strategic alliance with Iran…”
Yep, Russia will help Iran like they helped Syria last year.
My money is on the air defenses Russian supplied to Iran having been turned off. There will be no response from Russia to Israel except perhaps some diplomatic words of disapproval from Lavrov.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 10:36 utc | 214

The zionists have used probably hundreds of drones inside Iran, as the ukranians did against the RF nuclear bombers that now it is almost sure was also a Mossad operation.
Probably they have inflicted a big damage to de iranian AD, much more than with missiles from planes. There must be hundreds of mercenaries from MEK and others working for Israel inside Iran, which is a huge Intelligence failure.
Probably the ucrainian attack has precipitated the zionist attack before been detected by the iranians

Posted by: Dave F | Jun 13 2025 10:36 utc | 215

Iran should capitulate. They’re a bunch of losers.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 10:37 utc | 216

Looks like US is using israel as a proxy as usual. US has obviously supplied Israel with everything it needs. Likely US pilots and perhaps planes flying as Israeli.
The Israeli’s have said this is a war, not an operation and will go on at this rate for two weeks.
A deception operation by Trump.
Same operation with trucks loaded with drones as the attack against Russia, only much larger and boarder destroying most of Iran’s air defences in the area they would attack through.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 10:39 utc | 217

“Nothing short of a LITERAL Act of God is saving this world from the US and its vassals (NATO).”
Posted by: bored
You’re right. Evil has triumphed.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 10:40 utc | 218

@213,
Only chance left would probably be China. But they will be alone, I highly doubt they have any proper allies outside Russia/Iran/NK. But yes, BRICS is still slow in implementing necessary reforms in order to provide a real alternative to existing order.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 10:40 utc | 219

@Dave F | Jun 13 2025 10:36 utc | 215

The zionists have used probably hundreds of drones inside Iran, as the ukranians did against the RF nuclear bombers that now it is almost sure was also a Mossad operation.

Ukraine is a proxy in the western war against Russia. Occupied Palestine is a proxy in the western war against West Asia. That the methods are the same tells you that the back seat operators are the same ones n both cases.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 10:41 utc | 220

“Only chance left would probably be China. But they will be alone”
Posted by: JamesBond
China won’t do shit.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 10:42 utc | 221

It’s going to be interesting to see how many here grow hairs back on their chests if Iran actually does hit Israel back really hard – when it rationally decides to rather than when emotions see fit like many would like to see here.

Posted by: George | Jun 13 2025 10:44 utc | 222

The 100 drones sent by Iran is for PR purpose they will be shut down by Jordanians, US and UK jets, they will not disturb in any meaningful way the zionist AD.
The iranian leadership seems totally shocked like Hezbollah after Nasrallah assesination
Lest see if they recover of not the strength

Posted by: Dave F | Jun 13 2025 10:45 utc | 223

Larry Johnson, the Duran, Ray McGovern and Scott Ritter and the Judge and his guests strategy of absolving Trump of any blame whatsoever, as talking is more important.
Has clearly failed.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We are watching that failure before our very eyes.
Brian Berletic should receive a medal the size of a dustbin lid. The geopolitical expert bar none.
Question ?
How,are Larry Johnson, the Duran, Ray McGovern and Scott Ritter and the Judge and his guests going to bullshit their way out of this one ?
When 2/3rds of the bar knew they were talking shit anyway as every day they tried to absolve Trump of any blame.
Always blamed MI6, always blamed the Europeans, always blamed people Trump himself handpicked, always blamed the CIA the list is fucking endless apart from blaming Trump himself.
Trump is guilty as charged.
Can we now please stop with this complete and utter bullshit that Trump is innocent !

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 13 2025 10:45 utc | 224

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 8:58 utc | 138
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The upcoming war with NATO that NATO can’t mobilise for?

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 10:45 utc | 225

@221,
Maybe. But at least they look to be building something outside of Western control. Will it work in the end? Don’t know at this point.
However, it will also depend on how much they can project power in order to win to their side the “neutrals”. So they need to show some military might. Helping Iran now defend would work.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 10:46 utc | 226

@Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 10:40 utc | 218

You’re right. Evil has triumphed.

You mean in a “Triumph des Willens” sort of way? No, ignore the doom posts. It is people who will sort at this mess not “gods’. At cost but it will be done.
The US is desperate because its economy is going down and the war in Ukraine is lost. Netanyahu is desperate because he hangs on a thread.
This attack is a sign of weakness.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 10:47 utc | 227

Trump :
I gave Iran chance after chance to make a deal. I told them, in the strongest of words, to “just do it,” but no matter how hard they tried, no matter how close they got, they just couldn’t get it done.
I told them it would be much worse than anything they know, anticipated, or were told, that the United States makes the best and most lethal military equipment anywhere in the World, BY FAR, and that Israel has a lot of it, with much more to come – And they know how to use it.
Certain Iranian hardliner’s spoke bravely, but they didn’t know what was about to happen.
They are all DEAD now, and it will only get worse!
There has already been great death and destruction, but there is still time to make this slaughter, with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal, come to an end.
Iran must make a deal, before there is nothing left, and save what was once known as the Iranian Empire. No more death, no more destruction, JUST DO IT, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. God Bless You All!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114675456780398208

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 10:47 utc | 228

While all eyes are on Iran, while the world media points and says look -> HERE <- I expect the Final Solution in Gaza will be brought to unspeakably brutal termination.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 13 2025 10:48 utc | 229

@225,
Its good that there are still people here as brainless as those pro-ukrainian idiots are. Don’t worry, NATO will find enough meat for their war with Russia one way or another.
I really hope that Russia is not as overconfident as you are.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 10:49 utc | 230

Appears those barflies who early on concluded the attacks were coming from local ground based teams were correct. The tell was no missile tracks on any of the videos……conclusion IDF is terrified of Iranian AD.
Bet those Mossad Commando teams are being hunted down right now. Such inflitrators have always had a very short half life.

Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 10:51 utc | 231

“The upcoming war with NATO that NATO can’t mobilise for?”
Posted by: Urban Fox
They don’t need to mobilise. You only need soldiers if you want to invade and occupy a country. NATO will just bomb them back into the stone age.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 10:54 utc | 232

“Yep, Russia will help Iran like they helped Syria last year.”
Russia can’t help a country that does not want to help itself. Syria fell because it wanted to, for whatever reason. Russia will for sure not take over such a country, what it would have to do to save it from this bad decision.
“Did you forget the thousands (tens of thousands?) of dead and maimed Russian soldiers? Russia is isolated economically. They are taking down Russia’s allies one by one. The BRICS alliance is meaningless both militarily and financially. Nothing short of a LITERAL Act of God is saving this world from the US and its vassals (NATO). Who here, 6 months ago, would have thought Trump would be even worse for the world than the senile Biden? Yet look where we are at now.”
If you really think that this is Trumps doing in just few monthes, you are just naive. Trump, as in his first term, is just a loud muppet who is mainly pushed around by the deep state and a lot of what is happening now is US politics since decades and in specific cases planed way longer than Trumps second term for sure without caring to tell him in the first place.
His failure is, that he’s in the end and egoistic coward to not step up against it. Though they will likely kill him and then blame in on Iran or Russia or China, anyway.
The USA, the whole west, is a corruptn monstrosity, rotten from the inside with endless, uncontrollable cancergrowth and only the whole body, the people, could go against this, but the are just as corrupt in their own way, brainwashed, unwilling to do anything, unable to do anything, ignorant and manipulated as they are.

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 10:54 utc | 233

“This attack is a sign of weakness.”
Iran is to stupid to protect it’s military leadership.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 10:56 utc | 234

Thanks to everyone in this thread who doesn’t have emotional incontinence. You know who you are.

Posted by: Konami | Jun 13 2025 10:57 utc | 235

“They don’t need to mobilise. You only need soldiers if you want to invade and occupy a country. NATO will just bomb them back into the stone age.”
That only ‘work’ against people who can’t fire back. And even then ‘work’ is a way too strong word.

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 10:57 utc | 236

He emphasized that China firmly opposes any violation of Iran’s sovereignty, security, and territorial integrity, and opposes actions that escalate tensions or expand the conflict.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 8:38 utc | 126

Clearly, they don’t oppose the violation all that firmly … but neither do the nearby Arab states.
The problem for China is what happens if they can’t get Iranian oil any more. At that point they would need to consider getting a tiny bit serious.

Posted by: Tel | Jun 13 2025 10:58 utc | 237

Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 10:51 utc | 231
Those Mossad teams left weeks ago and pressed the button for the drones earlier today.

Posted by: dimp | Jun 13 2025 10:59 utc | 238

Sounds a lot like the recent Ukrainian attack on Russia, Operation Spider Web.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151126
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 7:45 utc | 61
Mossad was involved in Operation Spider Web too! So many relatives of Israelis in Russia! It must have been easy finding volunteers in Russia.
All the leaders have clearly been taken out by targeting their homes. This was surelly done using drones and locally fired weapons.
Has the Russian Government condemned the attacks? I haven’t seen anything. China has shown “concern”. India has asked for an end to hostilities! Iran is on its own (except for the Axis of Resistance).

Posted by: gb_grave | Jun 13 2025 11:02 utc | 239

“The next attacks will be even more brutal,” the fat, ugly pig sitting in the Oval Pigsty grunted.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 11:03 utc | 240

As far as the Jews were concerned, Hitler was right in everything he said or wrote.
https://x.com/i/status/1848469499496042885
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 8:54 utc | 134
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Sehr interessant.
If he had made these statements in a normal, conversational tone of voice, we would view them as a neutral description of the reality that we now perceive perfectly clearly. The Jews always picked up and left when circumstances and opportunities no longer favored them. My favorite example: The Baghdadi Jews.
As for the current attack,
It seems like Israel/Mossad have planned out and prepared the details of this attack years in advance, including via sleepers. Perfidious Albion, Perfidious Zion.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 13 2025 11:08 utc | 241

You have to give a credit where credit is due. This was a fantastic operation of Izrael which decapitated military leadership of Iran and decimated designated targets. They are the best in what they do and excluding emotion this was a success beyond belief. Response in my opinion will be tamed and impotent if any.

Posted by: clement | Jun 13 2025 11:09 utc | 242

…… Those Mossad teams left weeks ago and pressed the button for the drones earlier today.
Posted by: dimp……
Sure they did.

Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 11:09 utc | 243

🇺🇸🇮🇱🇸🇾 American fuel tankers are refueling Israeli jets over Syria sky freely without interruption. This is why they wanted regime change in Syria.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41831

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 11:11 utc | 244

Already 20 senior officers killed. What a disaster. Does Israel know every location of Iranian generals? Is there any intelligence department in Iran?

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 11:11 utc | 245

https://t.me/presstv/143833
Press TV
“Target the homes of Ben-Gvir and Smotrich.”
Activist and political commentator Laith Marouf says Iran must target the homes of Israeli politicians Ben-Gvir and Smotrich in response to the regime’s deadly attacks on the family homes of Iranian officials and military commanders.
https://x.com/BrianJBerletic/status/1933383804196184544
Brian Berletic @BrianJBerletic
🇺🇸🇮🇱🇮🇷As warned, Trump “Negotiations” with Iran Were Cover for Major US-Israeli Strike
▪️Iran can retaliate and give US the war it desperately seeks to provoke, although will likely continue striking Iran regardless, it’s out of time and all bets are off;
▪️World needs to stop “negotiating” with US and make clear any attack by obvious US proxies will be interpreted as an attack by the US itself or else the US will dismantle each nation, in detail (one at a time/strategic sequencing) – COLLECTIVE deterrence is required BEFORE US acts again;
▪️It is time for those defending Trump to wake up, speak up, and deny him the plausible deniability his administration exists solely to create – this is not what Americans voted for, HOLD THE GOVERNMENT & CORPORATIONS BEHIND THESE POLICES Responsible – but racism and delusion will likely persist or even worsen;
▪️Russia and China are next – it will not stop at Iran, the goal of striking Iran is to create the conditions to further encircle and contain Russia and China;

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 11:11 utc | 246

I live in China and their media were reporting on the Israeli attacks as it happens because they have media teams in Tehran.
Chinese are generally pro Palestine and anti Israel but this time most comments were laughing at the Iranians for sleeping when everyone and their mothers say Israel is going to attack. No precautions and very noticeable lack of AD as seen in the videos.
I share their opinion. Iran deserve to die as stupid people deserves to die thinking war is like drinking tea. Iran seriously underestimated Israeli warlike habits and they have a traitor President who wants Iran to be accepted by the West. He was worse than the previous President who allegedly died in an accident. Yup fools believe that too.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:13 utc | 247

Posted by: bored | Jun 13 2025 10:36 utc | 213
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 10:36 utc | 214
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 10:40 utc | 218
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The troll and schizodoomer posting might be the worst part of this.
The same Israel that can’t subdued Gaza, Ukraine which is ludicrously doomed and NATO which is an internal sh*tshow. Are all now super competent genius villains whose propaganda must suddenly be believed wholesale.
Even though they’ve been full of dogs*t or grotesque exaggerations innumerable times.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 11:15 utc | 248

Exile @243: “Sure they did.”
Why would they still be there? They could control their devices with something as simple as Windows Remote Desktop using a Starlink terminal for `Net access. They probably launched the attack from a laptop while enjoying umbrella drinks on a beach in Haifa.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 11:15 utc | 249

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114675456780398208
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 10:47 utc | 228
Beat you to it by 45 minutes and 40 posts 😉 (10:02 utc | 188)
But let’s disassemble some parts
“with the next already planned attacks being even more brutal”
i.e. yes, we were fully aware of this beautiful attack, and next one, huuuge. Best attack ever.
Now, in all “negotiations” logic seems to be, bend the knee or else bad things happen
And now is not a secondary player like syria. One by one… Some asymmetric move must be played soon.

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 13 2025 11:15 utc | 250

Earlier on I believed US wanted full control of the Persian gulf and cut oil supplies to China. Had started to think that was not the case, but now it appears to be what they are doing.
As others have said also, an attack against BRICS, ensuring the region does not turn towards Russia and China. Iran Saudis and others had started turning towards BRICS
If that was to occur, the vast majority of the worlds oil reserves would be in BRICS or BRICS aligned countries. 40% of the worlds oil comes from the Gulf region.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 11:17 utc | 251

The problem for China is what happens if they can’t get Iranian oil any more. At that point they would need to consider getting a tiny bit serious.
Posted by: Tel | Jun 13 2025 10:58 utc | 237
Yo dude. Russia has oil and gas pipelines straight to China. Look at an atlas as you’re pretty ignorant. Russia ask how much China needs Russia can supply but China don’t want to put all their eggs in the Russian basket as that would give Russia leverage to hold over China.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:18 utc | 252

“Target the homes of Ben-Gvir and Smotrich.”
Squash the blowfly Netanjahu.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 11:18 utc | 253

Urban Fox @248:
I am not being a doomer. It is a simple fact that Russia will do nothing against Israel, and you know it.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 11:18 utc | 254

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 11:18 utc | 254
2 million very rich Russian Jews in Israel who probably owns Pootin’s butt. That’s why he threw Syria under the bus.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:21 utc | 255

Was Iran too tolerant?

It was an honor to join morning prayers at Keter David synagogue in Iran’s Isfahan and talk to local leaders about the past and future of the country’s Jewish population inside the Islamic Republic, currently the second largest in the region.

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1921601552726258003

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 11:21 utc | 256

I share their opinion. Iran deserve to die as stupid people deserves to die thinking war is like drinking tea.
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:13 utc | 247
I wonder how the Chinese would respond to a statement like this:
“The Opium Wars were a just victory for Britain. The Chinese got what they deserved for being stupid and primitive.”
In any case, I hope they remember their comments when Uncle Sam comes knocking at China’s door, as is inevitable.
I have a gut feeling the current emperor of China will be as comatose and paralysed as the Qing Emperor was when the White Man showed up on his doorstep.
Then we can have a few chuckles at the Chinese’ expense.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:21 utc | 257

“Already 20 senior officers killed.”
So more than the Iran has? Or do we just count far down, where it becomes irrelevant? Is that proven or the usual endless lies of Israel’s fascist regime?

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 11:22 utc | 258

Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:18 utc | 252
Nowhere near enough in those pipelines. Piped oil and gas from Russia is only a part of China’s energy imports.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 11:23 utc | 259

Turkish, Qatari, British, Jordanian and Israeli fighter jets all working over Iraq to shoot down Iranian drones afaik. Possible that the Turks are doing something else to Kurds.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 13 2025 11:24 utc | 260

As usual I will wait for a day or two.
If/when the real assessment of this mighty attack will be cleared we will see.
By the way, idf still going on, means that not all desired targets had been cleared.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 13 2025 11:24 utc | 261

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 11:15 utc | 248
Doomers? Are you 12? Look around. US/Israel/NATO are collecting heads while BRICS countries don’t know which way they are coming or going. China’s tepidity will be its undoing. They are next. India is useless like usual.

Posted by: bored | Jun 13 2025 11:25 utc | 262

William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 11:18 utc | 254
Come on, man ! Russia has enough on her plate at the moment I think.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 13 2025 11:26 utc | 263

“The troll and schizodoomer posting might be the worst part of this.
The same Israel that can’t subdued Gaza”
Posted by: Urban Fox
How many Palestine children are killed and maimed everyday?
How many Israeli children are killed and maimed everyday?
How many American children are killed and maimed everyday?
Netanjahu is dragging out the war, firstly because if the war were to end he would immediately be put on trial and then sent to prison, so he needs the war to go on, and secondly because the genocide against the Palestinians must be carried out slowly, otherwise the world might protest against it (but I doubt that).

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 11:26 utc | 264

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 11:23 utc | 259
You have a comprehension problem. I explained why already.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:26 utc | 265

Although I hate Israel, the genocidal devil, I have to admit that this fascist tactic of assassinating leaders without regard to civilian casualties is very effective.
Russia and China are too restrained and peace loving for their own good. All that is doing is allowing the west to salami slice all the way to tactical nukes without establishing credible deterrence.
Instead of giving wholly undeserved respect to genociders, they should be serving up Oreshniks for the crimes against humanity they’ve committed.

Posted by: Ninhvoi | Jun 13 2025 11:26 utc | 266

Iran seriously underestimated Israeli warlike habits and they have a traitor President who wants Iran to be accepted by the West. He was worse than the previous President who allegedly died in an accident. Yup fools believe that too.
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:13 utc | 247
Once again, negligence, incompetence and relying on a “moderate” leadership on the part of Iran and others is doing the USUKIS’ work for them. NATO may be incompetent on their side, but they need not to worry if they always attack first and can expect little to no retaliation. Out of all the Chinese and Russian responses, Alaudinov is so far the only one who expressed something other than “deep concern”.

“I believe, of course, this is my personal opinion, that we need to declare mobilization. We need to prepare at least 500 thousand in advance, and in reality a million people. Call them up and start preparing them. Prepare them for the fact that the war has already begun, which we already know that it is going on, the Third World War. But it has already acquired new twists, new turns” (c) Apti Alaudinov

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 267

will internal issues constrain trump? curiouser and curiouser
Is the ME the only true target?
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/06/12/israel-iran-trump-maga-00403531
“The entire situation is infuriating the MAGA base, whose leaders had been imploring Trump to stop Israel in recent days. But the president either tried and failed, highlighting his lack of sway with Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu — or he privately greenlit the campaign against the warnings of his base (which the administration firmly denies).
Either way, the president who insisted his negotiating prowess would usher in a new age of world peace, now finds himself in perhaps the diciest situation of his presidency: facing down the possibility of leaving Israel to fend for itself — or joining it in going toe to toe with Iran.
“What the president does from here could end up defining his presidency,” MAGA scribe Matt Boyle of Breitbart told me just after news of the strikes. “He has to balance protecting America’s greatest ally in the region in Israel with avoiding getting the USA drawn into war.”
Others in the MAGA-sphere already had an answer: Stay out.
“Israel has now made a mockery of the United States,” said Breaking Points host Saagar Enjeti, who earlier in the day predicted on X that “a war with Iran would make the disastrous war in Iraq look like a cakewalk.””

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 268

@258,
Most of the press mentions about 20. Probably it’s less but still a very big problem. We are talking about these losses in a single day. We also don’t know yet what sort of functional AD Iran currently has. It will be rough for Iran if they can’t stabilize the situation fast.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 269

The intent to make a mess out of Iran in the model of Syria, Libya, etc.

Posted by: chakakhagan | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 270

… but China don’t want to put all their eggs in the Russian basket as that would give Russia leverage to hold over China.
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:18 utc | 252
That’s where we’re heading right now.
Russia’s about to own China’s ass because it’s going to be the sole dealer.
And BOOM! Just like that we’re right back to the century of humiliation because China failed to protect it’s lines of independence but instead got hooked on one dealer.
Except that it’s not Russia that’s going to own China’s ass once the line from Iran is cut, and the Arab poodles cut the supply on command.
Nah. It’s going to be the Jewish fifth column in Russia that are going to own the life-lines to China.
As stated and predicted in The Protocols of the Elders.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 271

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:21 utc | 257
I live in China. Do you? You should talk to Karloff If you want to know what China’s doing. Why do you think Trump declared China as the biggest threat to US hegemony.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:28 utc | 272

Already 20 senior officers killed. What a disaster. Does Israel know every location of IranianRussian generals?
Is there any intelligence department in Iran?Russia?
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 11:11 utc | 245

Is Russia ready? Cause Mossad Mi6 and Ukraine are a trinity.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 11:29 utc | 273

Come on, man ! Russia has enough on her plate at the moment I think.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 13 2025 11:26 utc | 263
If that is really Russia’s reaction to its last major ally in the Middle East:
1) The Ukraine war will have succeeded wildly in reducing Russian influence outside its immediate neighbors,
2) The Iranians can expect to collapse like the Syrians, for most of the same reasons.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 11:29 utc | 274

By the way, idf still going on, means that not all desired targets had been cleared.
Posted by: Mario | Jun 13 2025 11:24 utc | 261
Problem is that fully warned iran is still unable to counter those strikes.
WTF

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 13 2025 11:29 utc | 275

And US jets doing interceptions.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 13 2025 11:29 utc | 276

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:28 utc | 273
Exactly why would I need to live in China to make the statement that I did?
I mean, living in China doesn’t seem to have made you much brighter has it?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:30 utc | 277

A major war is about to start, and whatever happens, Israel might cease to exist.
I wrote yesterday:

While pressure on Iran is apparent with these newest actions, there can be no certainty that US/Israel will not strike Iran.
Trump has a habit of saying things which are followed by contrary actions.
He follows a silly and repugnant pattern – I like so and so; this country, people is great bla bla bla, BUT we will bomb it, or I don’t want to bomb it, but I might have to, etc.
He has been doing that with Iran. His words are worthless. The pressure on Iran is the telling indicator.
An attack on Iran can not be ruled out.
Anyone who has studiously followed and studied the actions of delusional regimes knows that the moment and the motives for irrational or criminal action by such ruling groups is often known only to them, and defies any reasoning and knowledge of analysts, “experts” and those who have had experience with such power groups.
Based on history and experience with US/Israel, it is impossible, in my view, to expect that they see no advantage in attacking Iran, regardless of the fact that Iran announced just a few days ago that it will strike the source of attack wherever it is, i/e., in countries in the area, which, countries, presumably don’t like the idea and are, presumably, telling the US that they don’t want to be targeted.
I doubt that US/Israel care much about that if they (foolishly) believe that an attack on Iran would be in any way profitable for them.
Posted by: JB | Jun 12 2025 18:45 utc | 56

Posted by: JB | Jun 13 2025 11:32 utc | 278

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 13th June 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-8c6 Some coverage of the Middle East/Iran.

Posted by: The Busker | Jun 13 2025 11:33 utc | 279

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 11:11 utc | 244 “🇺🇸🇮🇱🇸🇾 American fuel tankers are refueling Israeli jets over Syria sky freely without interruption”
Looks like an IDF refueler.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 13 2025 11:33 utc | 280

Well what I learned here today is that B. at least has the guts to admit he was wrong in making a prediction (like a true scientist) and that is an admirable quality. I cannot say the same for many of us comment makers on here.
No one has the so-called ‘eye of God’ including myself. Most of us have a bit of information, maybe an ‘informed’ view, but we are hugely ignorant of far more.
Most of the time we are only guessing, and if your guess comes true then it is easy to think you can predict the future. But maybe it was just luck of the draw which is far more likely.
Once again today there are many predictions based on a paucity of information that comes from the same old media, and we all start over again.

Posted by: George | Jun 13 2025 11:34 utc | 281

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:30 utc | 279
At least I know China a lot better than you to make your stupid conjectures that China should do this China should do that.
You’re no Karloff.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:35 utc | 282

Lets hope there are some clever generals in Russia who can convince Putin to not abandon Iran like he did Syria. Loosing Iran to NATO will be a blow to Russia.

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 13 2025 11:35 utc | 283

If Iran does not attack now the IAF bases they will continue pounding Iran harder and harder, they should disable the air bases where the planes are taking off safely and freely to hit more and more iranian bases.
The iranian leadership thought they have a clear missile deterrence and that the zionist would never attack so they are totally umprepared and after Lebanon I do not understand why they did no hear all the advices about the impeding attack.

Posted by: Dave F | Jun 13 2025 11:35 utc | 284

USrael deploys Witkoff to stage Potemkin diplomacy with Russia; and USrael deploys Witkoff to sham talks with Iran. This is how it goes in “negotiations” with goons, you see. When will they ever learn: before or after Russia gets walloped like Iran? In this moment, this Friday, Russia will show its colors and know its fate, one way or the other. Should they fail to effectively repudiate USrael at this point, they’re next. They may still have a choice, but not for long.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 13 2025 11:35 utc | 285

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:13 utc | 247
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 267
Looking back I now suspect Raisi was assassinated, not by Americans or Israelis, but by the current pro-Western Iranian government. This is the only way to explain why Raisi was traveling on a 50-year-old American chopper without maintenance parts when they had perfectly capable modern Russian choppers available. The pro-Western faction wanted to off Raisi, frame it as an accident, while losing a helicopter that was going to be decommissioned.
The death of Raisi allowed Pezeshkian and his faction to come into power. Now they’re killing off the rest of the hardliner faction by passing their information to Israel and shutting off Iranian air defenses during the current strikes.

Posted by: Ninhvoi | Jun 13 2025 11:36 utc | 286

@274,
Most of those killed commanders were already confirmed by Iran itself. Are we going to pretend that it’s just Israeli propaganda? Let’s face it, it’s a massive blunder on Iranian side especially those nuclear scientist losses.
Iran has taken its fair share of punches in the last 24hrs, there is no point in denying it.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 11:36 utc | 287

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:35 utc | 284
you are in China, because no Singaporean lady will piss on you even if you were on fire, this why you are there shacked up with a main-lander, in you your previous post you mentioned that Ukrainians all head to West , because West is great and democratic, then what are you doing in East of the East in China, you degenerate hypocrite

Posted by: Gishka | Jun 13 2025 11:39 utc | 288

JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 269
– “press mentions about 20. Probably it’s less”
Get off ya barstool and do a bit of internet before you post uninformed opinion

Posted by: PeterAg | Jun 13 2025 11:40 utc | 289

Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 10:51 utc | 231
Yes, it addition to a lot of other things. There are now videos of IDF F-15’s carrying 2000lb GBU-31(V)1 JDAMs that supposedly attacked Natanz.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 13 2025 11:41 utc | 290

YetAnotherAnon @263: “Come on, man ! Russia has enough on her plate at the moment I think.:
You mean the SMO? It is just a policing action, not a real war. If that is too much for Russia…
Anyway, my bet is still that the Russian air defense in Iran never even attempted to engage the Israelis. It was turned off, just like in Syria. Just there for looks.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 11:41 utc | 291

What’s the point of having these ?
https://apnews.com/article/mideast-tensions-iran-china-russia-naval-drills-b150bd7fa1336e52fbbf6fd4afd593de
If they are not going to do anything.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 13 2025 11:42 utc | 292

I was always of the opinion Raisi was assassinated.
(Some) People here were adamant “it was an accident”.
Nah. Someone wanted him, and the other guy in the helicopter dead.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 13 2025 11:44 utc | 293

Let me remind some people anxious to make all sorts of ill-informed judgments about Iran, Putin, Middle-Eastern and Arabic states, and China, and thinking that it is instantly time to ridicule one or all of them, just remember the old idiom:
“HE WHO LAUGHS LAST, LAUGHS LONGEST/BEST”

Posted by: George | Jun 13 2025 11:45 utc | 294

Others in the MAGA-sphere already had an answer: Stay out.
“Israel has now made a mockery of the United States,” said Breaking Points host Saagar Enjeti, who earlier in the day predicted on X that “a war with Iran would make the disastrous war in Iraq look like a cakewalk.””
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 13 2025 11:27 utc | 268
You’re on some major smack if you think Breaking Points is remotely MAGA. They’re not even as Trump-friendly as Glenn Greenwald or Jimmy Dore. Krystal in particular is insufferable enough to merit unsubscribing. Then again, what kind of smoothbrain trusts Politico to assess the MAGA base?
Breitbart is pro-Israel, though not enough to keep Ben Shapiro on staff. Matt Boyle will be gone faster than Rick Sanchez if his editors see him trying to run Israel down. But that tends to emphasize that Israel still has support within the Republicans.
The funny part, Douglas MacGregor had a decent amount of reach through Tucker Carlson- but his latest attempts to belittle President Trump are going to cost Responsible Statecraft a lot of influence with the administration. Actually, the fact Ukraine could defend against air attacks better than Iran did is likely going to see a lot of people become dismissive of MacGregor. That is the price of inept advice and lax preparation.
Lt. Col. Daniel Davis is generally more Trump-positive. Though he has been inviting more skeptical guests, his opinion will shift very quickly if Iran is completely unable to counter Israel.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 11:49 utc | 295

@ Surferket | Jun 13 2025 11:13 utc | 247
Iran deserves to die?
Who the fuck are you writing something like this from your armchair. You know how big Iran is. Look at their piss poor and even partly hostile neighbors and the geography.
No country on earth can prevent such a infiltration (except NK i guess).
You are doing their work maybe you should rather write comments at the Guardian or WAPO.

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Jun 13 2025 11:49 utc | 296

this…
Israel’s daytime air strikes on Iran show they are operating with little concern for Iranian air defences, pointing to a major shift in power between the foes, an analyst says.
Imad El-Anis, an international relations expert on the Middle East and North Africa at Nottingham Trent University, said it was notable that Israel was carrying out strikes during the day, calling it “unprecedented”.
“This suggests they enjoy complete freedom of movement in the skies and are operating with little to no concern about Iranian air defences,” he said.
“Such confidence points to a major shift in the balance of power between the two countries, and Israel seems to be seizing a strategically opportune moment to act.”
El-Anis said Iran’s ability to respond appeared limited. “Compared to previous years, its capabilities appear to be seriously degraded,” he said.

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 13 2025 11:50 utc | 297

The death of Raisi allowed Pezeshkian and his faction to come into power. Now they’re killing off the rest of the hardliner faction by passing their information to Israel and shutting off Iranian air defenses during the current strikes.
Posted by: Ninhvoi | Jun 13 2025 11:36 utc | 288
I’ve had the suspicion this is the kind of game that goes on in Iran for a while now.
If it is, and if the Iranian people want to survive the collapse of the Anglo-Zionist Empire (in progress, but too slow) this might be the best time for a regime change – just not the regime change the West wants.
It’s pretty clear the crowd in power now has passed their shelf-life.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 11:51 utc | 298

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 11:41 utc | 293
—-
AD was apparently destroyed by Israeli commandos.
What is obvious now is that Iran was caught by surprise – a massive failure of their intelligence services led to this disaster.
Were the Iranians perhaps a bit naive?
Israel never plays by the rules, and they are unfortunately champions of covert operations.

Posted by: Verdant | Jun 13 2025 11:52 utc | 299

“This suggests they enjoy complete freedom of movement in the skies and are operating with little to no concern about Iranian air defences,” he said.
“Such confidence points to a major shift in the balance of power between the two countries, and Israel seems to be seizing a strategically opportune moment to act.”
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 13 2025 11:50 utc | 300
It’s -almost- like clueless Resistance Media types dramatically overestimated the strength of Russian air defense outside Russia. By the time Iran gets new leaders together to authorize retaliation, Israel will have attacked another day’s worth of targets.
President Trump and Marco Rubio were hardly celebrating the Israeli action, yet the Iranians seem to want a piece of them anyways. Hah. Have it your way.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 13 2025 11:55 utc | 300