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June 29, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-144
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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It certainly was a busy night:
https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/29/1477868.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 12:54 utc | 1 It seems that trouble is brewing between Azerbaijan & Russia. Which was to be expected after that plane debacle a year ago. It seems that Azerbaijan is upset and canceled all Russian cultural events probably as a response to some alleged murder of 5 Azeri citizens in Yekaterinburg by FSB. Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 29 2025 13:11 utc | 2 The Russian military reported that crews of T-80 tanks destroyed Ukrainian positions in the Kupiansk sector. The movement of an enemy group in the area was reported by air reconnaissance. The commander of a tank platoon with the callsign “Kaluga” said that the protective screens were very useful against kamikaze drones, drones and any type of projectiles dropped on them. According to him, the tanks are also equipped with electronic warfare equipment, which “prevents any drone from approaching within a radius of one and a half kilometers”. Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 13:20 utc | 3 Cash for death introduced in Ukraine for all as young as 18 years of age to fight to death. Posted by: pepe | Jun 29 2025 13:25 utc | 4 Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 13:20 utc | 3 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 29 2025 13:42 utc | 5 “’Tis but a scratch”:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1751184085-u-nich-na-29-chervnya-rf-atakuvala-mirni-mista-shcho-vidomo-pro-naslidki-ataki-po-oblastyah (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 13:46 utc | 6 Ukie today admitting an F16 pilot was killed, they don’t mention what type of magic carpet he was flying but dead for sure….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 29 2025 14:03 utc | 7 Reuters claims Ukraine lost another F-16 while trying to intercept the Russian airstrike, but I haven’t seen any confirmation from the Russian side yet. Posted by: Cable Guy | Jun 29 2025 14:04 utc | 8 Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 29 2025 13:11 utc | 2 Posted by: Afro | Jun 29 2025 14:07 utc | 9 Re F-16, there is this report: https://news-pravda.com/world/2025/06/29/1477870.html
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 14:12 utc | 10 @9, Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 29 2025 14:16 utc | 11
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2025/06/29/ukraincy-nachali-organizovannoe-soprotivlenie-sotrudnikam-voenkomatov (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 14:27 utc | 12 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 27th June 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-fd5 Posted by: The Busker | Jun 29 2025 14:27 utc | 13 After a DS decent (almost 20km2), DS is saying a null day. Casualties wise it was low 1.350 and lower 1.250 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 29 2025 14:34 utc | 14 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 12:54 utc | 1 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 29 2025 14:35 utc | 15 There’s a enough posted on telegram and xwitter to make a persuasive case Azerbaijan airspace was open to Israeli drones to attack Tehran. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 29 2025 14:51 utc | 16 MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The Russian armed forces struck Ukraine’s defense industry facilities and oil refineries overnight with Kinzhal hypersonic missiles, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Sunday. Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 15:08 utc | 17 Joti Brar Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 29 2025 15:15 utc | 18 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 14:12 utc | 10 Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 15:16 utc | 19 The Ukrainian secret services are the organizers and sponsors of the terrorist attack perpetrated in the Crocus City Hall concert hall near Moscow, the Russian media reported, citing documents from the dossier. Thus, one of the terrorists indicated that after committing the attack, Dalerjon Mirzoyev and Chamsidin Faridouni, the authors of this attack, sent a certain coordinator, Saifoullo, a message to inform him of having carried out the attack. “I also learned during their conversation that Saifoullo told them that the sponsor of this terrorist attack in the Crocus City Hall concert hall was a structure of the Ukrainian state,” he noted. According to the testimonies of one of the four perpetrators of the terrorist attack, the accomplices should have “gone to the border between Russia and Ukraine and crossed it”. Saifoullo then allegedly gave them additional instructions to travel to Kiev, where they should have received one million rubles (about 10,800 euros) each from the sponsors of the attack. Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 15:22 utc | 20 Trying To Save Her Son From Death…(& vid) Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 29 2025 15:26 utc | 21 There is no need to partition Azerbaijan or even go to war with it. They are a Turkish protectorate at the end of the day. But indeed, its a problem for both Russia & Iran. There are a lot of Azeri nationals in Russia which can cause a lot of problems that requires some proper diplomacy and soft expulsions of those involved in crimes from both countries. Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 29 2025 15:36 utc | 22 It should be obvious that using multi-million-dollar F16’s to shoot down inexpensive drones, putting pilots who’ve had years of training and resources invested in them at risk, is not a winning move. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 29 2025 15:39 utc | 23 @22, Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 29 2025 15:43 utc | 24 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 29 2025 14:34 utc | 14 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 29 2025 16:28 utc | 25 should be obvious that using multi-million-dollar F16’s to shoot down inexpensive drones… Posted by: rk | Jun 29 2025 17:00 utc | 26 The f16s sent to Ukr are all very old, there is no money lost Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 29 2025 17:05 utc | 27 JamesBond @ 2
The baying hounds on the trail, dreaming of the feast when the master carves up the carcass. Defeating Iran is all about attacking Russia in the Caspian, forcing Russia to defend its border from Finland to the Black Sea to Central Asia while tied down in Central Europe. Reminds you of anything? Operation Edelweiss? Edelweiss, Silver Fox, Siege of Leningrad, same plan only this time the entire Golden Billion is being mobilized along with their slavering minions from West Asia, Hitler came damn close, if only Leningrad had fallen, but third time’s the charm. NATO is going to throw half the world against Russia, and China, and Iran – half the world vs half the world, when it ramps up WW3 is going to be a doozy. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 29 2025 17:14 utc | 28 In many video clips there is no sign of air defence, the missiles or drones fly in unmolested. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 17:19 utc | 29 You know, the guys losing conflicts left and right. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 17:21 utc | 30 The Russians have launched an increasing offensive along much of the front line, with many gains. You really question how long the Ukrainians can last before a section of the front starts a complete collapse. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 29 2025 17:22 utc | 31 “Yes, but so are most of those Arab/Sunni fiefdoms. You can’t win against all of them. Making more enemies now is not a winning strategy. Posted by: kupkee | Jun 29 2025 17:26 utc | 32 The Russians have launched an increasing offensive along much of the front line, with many gains. You really question how long the Ukrainians can last before a section of the front starts a complete collapse. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 17:33 utc | 33 And few, if any, of those F16s were on NATO books above a zero asset value. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 17:38 utc | 34 Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 17:33 utc | 33 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 29 2025 17:50 utc | 35 Re: F16 turkey shootdowns… Posted by: Rob | Jun 29 2025 17:52 utc | 36 Agreed, but the AFU would love to have whatever cast-off’s NATO has left at this point. The biggest limiting factor to more F-16’s going to Ukraine is not available airframes so much as trained pilots. Posted by: Genesiss | Jun 29 2025 17:55 utc | 37 Azerbaijan is an artificial nation that was created during the Turkish Revolutionary War that erupted as WW1 was ending, which is a fact I uncovered while researching that event for an article I wrote about Anatolia. Its artificial nature was capitalized upon by the Bolsheviks who were instrumental in its creation. I reported on the last Summit between Putin and Aliev which can be found and read at my substack. The whole of the Southern Caucasus region remains a target of the Outlaw US Empire to destabilize Russia if we look at the region’s history since 1920, and especially recently. The most recent report related to Azerbaijan by Russia’s MFA was during Maria Zakharova’s 19 June briefing last of three paragraphs:
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Some will have missed what Putin said at last Friday’s presser about curtailing the amount of GDP Russia devotes to its military which is now 6.3%. Putin provided a long discussion about the issue which is worth reading fully. Here’s the main budgetary excerpt:
The biggest limiting factor to more F-16’s going to Ukraine is not available airframes so much as trained pilots. Posted by: Exile | Jun 29 2025 18:06 utc | 39 @ Genesiss | Jun 29 2025 17:55 utc | 37
Forget? I never heard that one before; cough up the evidence for that statement. Posted by: maja | Jun 29 2025 18:07 utc | 40 Sheep dipped NATO pilots are plenty Posted by: Nemesiss | Jun 29 2025 18:10 utc | 41 The war around Odessa… Posted by: Nemesiss | Jun 29 2025 18:17 utc | 42 Don’t forget, five B2s were lost in the war over Serbia, and the defense technology hasn’t deteriorated since then. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 18:20 utc | 43 Sheep dipped NATO pilots are plenty Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 18:22 utc | 44 Pilots for F-16s are just one aspect, possibly even more valuable are the qualified and experienced maintenance ground crew; I suppose it depends on how many of those people the NATO donor nations are prepared to commit/lose? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 18:23 utc | 45 The strikes on Ukraine are very much going up in scale, I think the slo-mo in the SMO was mainly due to a WWI dystopian battlefield now mined in three dimensions, land below every step and every square meter of sky above your head*, but also to develop work arounds from sanctions and ramp up Russia’s MIC and build up Russia’s stockpile for war with NATO. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 29 2025 18:44 utc | 46
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 29 2025 18:44 utc | 46 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 18:53 utc | 47 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 29 2025 17:14 utc | 28 Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 29 2025 18:53 utc | 48 Re: Naive | Jun 29 2025 15:22 utc | 20 Pilots for F-16s are just one aspect, possibly even more valuable are the qualified and experienced maintenance ground crew; I suppose it depends on how many of those people the NATO donor nations are prepared to commit/lose? Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 19:20 utc | 50 Hmmm… that seems somewhat optimistic; Ukraine holding out for 3-5 more months is not guaranteed, let alone 3-5 years. Who is going to do the “forcing”? And what with? Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 19:25 utc | 51 Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 29 2025 17:58 utc | 38 Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 29 2025 19:27 utc | 52 “Tis but a scratch” #2
I’ve no idea why Zelensky is begging for more Patriots if their existing AD can take down the fantastical figure of 475 drones out of 477 (the phrase ‘lost’ is a curious one, as though the Russians are somewhat lackadaisical with their airborne munitions).
“Martyred Ukraine”? Posted by: FakeBelieve | Jun 29 2025 19:30 utc | 53 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang @ 47
Doesn’t take many men to do a fighting retreat, I read somewhere that the latest drones allow one guy to fly several at once, passed the Donbass is open farmland and large forests, that’s the NATO plan and what we are now seeing develop in Ukraine, particularly in Sumy, small scattered squads, highly mobile with a lot of drones, hiding in ruins and improvised forest trenches swarming the Russian advance in a fighting retreat. They can do that for a long time, you could underestimate Ukraine’s capabilities but I wouldn’t underestimate NATO. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 29 2025 19:37 utc | 54 *** Ukraine may be fraternal but the US Civil War was just as fraternal and Lincoln, Grant, and Sherman ended the war by going scorched earth on the Confederacy. *** Posted by: frithguild | Jun 29 2025 19:41 utc | 55 frithguild @ 55
Good stuff! Some amazing history tidbits show up on MoA. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 29 2025 19:47 utc | 56 They can do that for a long time, you could underestimate Ukraine’s capabilities but I wouldn’t underestimate NATO. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 19:59 utc | 57 5 hours ago Hungary’s Paks II Nuclear Power Project Fires Up as US Lifts Sanctions
If you want NATO members to arm up, you need power for industry now. Posted by: Laurence | Jun 29 2025 20:00 utc | 58 @ LightYearsFromHome | Jun 29 2025 19:37 utc | 54 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 20:02 utc | 59 wish we still had Anonymous/Julian. Be nice to know he daily km/sq tallies during this “offensive”. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 29 2025 20:05 utc | 60 It will be a brief affair though, as those that align themselves with the West find themselves being supplied from empty cupboards. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 20:18 utc | 61 Good stuff! Some amazing history tidbits show up on MoA. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 29 2025 20:19 utc | 62 Pashinyan cracked down on the Armenian church the last weeks and Macron congratulated him for ,countering subversion’. Pashinyan saw Erdogan last week and would open a corridor for Turkey to access Azerbaijan. It is Erdogan’s wet dream to connect the Turkophone countries n this way and have tight control on the new silk roads. The corridor would isolate Iran from Armenia. Pashinyan is a traitor to his country if ever one. Posted by: Teraspol | Jun 29 2025 20:25 utc | 63 Ukraine will be forced to hold out for 3-5 more years till NATO is ready to go all in Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 20:38 utc | 64
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 29 2025 20:18 utc | 61 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 20:42 utc | 65 Zakharova: the descendants of the Nazis are deliberately placed in leadership positions in the West Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 20:46 utc | 66 The new director of MI6 is believed to be the granddaughter of a Ukrainian Nazi spy nicknamed The Butcher, according to the Daily Mail Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 20:53 utc | 67 “Unspoken Inheritance: Nazi Family Ties of Europe’s Modern Elites” Posted by: Naive | Jun 29 2025 20:57 utc | 68 @67, Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 29 2025 21:25 utc | 69 FATWA: Iran’s Grand Ayatollah Makarem Shirazi — one of the most senior Shia clerics in Qom — has issued a ruling declaring that threats against Khamenei by President Trump and others amount to a “war against Islam.” Remaining silent is “haram,” he says, and Muslims must… Posted by: Jerr | Jun 29 2025 21:26 utc | 70 This Armenia, Azerbaijan developing, Macron, Erdogan is going to become something I rckon. Posted by: Orson Cart | Jun 29 2025 21:48 utc | 71 And no Nordstream, Trumpet drill baby drill. Posted by: Orson Cart | Jun 29 2025 21:53 utc | 72 And Elon back commenting, the BBB bad as it gives more to old traditional industries rather than the new future industries. Posted by: Orson Cart | Jun 29 2025 21:57 utc | 73 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 29 2025 20:02 utc | 59 Posted by: watcher | Jun 29 2025 22:30 utc | 74 Something Aleksandr Dugin said in his RT opinion piece about the recent Israeli/Iran conflict has very real implications to the current SMO. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 29 2025 23:18 utc | 75 maja 40 – I knew that the Serbian 250th AAD Regiment downed an F 117 stealth fighter bomber (the debris of which was sold off to RF) and and F 16, but was not aware of any B2’s being dropped during the Serbian-NATO war? Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 29 2025 23:26 utc | 76 Orson Cart 72 – Exactly, the UK cooked its own goose when it went all in to the green socialist agenda nonsense and closed down all its coal mines, and coal fired power stations, and closed down many North Sea oil and ng wells….. Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 29 2025 23:35 utc | 77 Azerbaijan sees an opportunity to grab a piece of Iran .. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 29 2025 23:35 utc | 78 I knew that the Serbian 250th AAD Regiment downed an F 117 stealth fighter bomber (the debris of which was sold off to RF) and and F 16, but was not aware of any B2’s being dropped during the Serbian-NATO war? Posted by: frithguild | Jun 29 2025 23:38 utc | 79 Azerbaijan sees an opportunity to grab a piece of Iran .. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 29 2025 23:46 utc | 80 Posted by: frithguild | Jun 29 2025 19:41 utc | 55 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 29 2025 23:54 utc | 81 Azerbaijan sees an opportunity to grab a piece of Iran .. Posted by: HERMIUS | Jun 29 2025 23:54 utc | 82 Suresh | Jun 29 2025 23:35 utc | 78 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 29 2025 23:57 utc | 83 Ukraine will be forced to hold out for 3-5 more years till NATO is ready to go all in Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 30 2025 0:03 utc | 84 We’re past “The Battle of the Bulge” (Kursk) and Volkssturm. The fat lady’s just offstage and running scales. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 30 2025 0:10 utc | 85 Acco Hengst | Jun 30 2025 0:03 utc | 84– Color rev Serbia= ACTION! Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 30 2025 1:02 utc | 87 Israel /US wants access to the Caspian. They have Turkmanistan, You forgot the froggies and the cheese heads. New Amsterdam put up a wall circa 1609 to protect itself and put a street next to it. The name of that street is world famous in financial as well as some other circles. *** Posted by: frithguild | Jun 30 2025 1:51 utc | 89 Caspian Sea and Central Asea … critical for China and Russia … 😊 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 30 2025 1:59 utc | 90 @Melaleuca | Sun, 29 Jun 2025 23:57:00 GMT | 83
No they don’t. No one “has” Turkmenistan. Turkmenistan is neutral. In fact its permanent neutrality is enshrined by the UN. Posted by: James M. | Jun 30 2025 2:04 utc | 91 @Genesiss | Sun, 29 Jun 2025 17:55:00 GMT | 37
Talking out your ass here. Trolling or stupidity writ large, take your pick. Posted by: James M. | Jun 30 2025 2:06 utc | 92 Turkmenistan is neutral. In fact its permanent neutrality is enshrined by the UN. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 30 2025 2:11 utc | 93 France and the EU have put their support behind Armenian in conflict w Azerbaijan. Turkmenistan is neutral. In fact its permanent neutrality is enshrined by the UN. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 30 2025 2:30 utc | 95 Lavrov’s diplomacy Your link also says:
These “deepening ties” saw Azerbaijan open its air space for Israeli drone attacks on Iran. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 30 2025 3:23 utc | 97 Sorry…online half the comment posted…
These “deepening ties” saw Azerbaijan open its air space for Israeli drone attacks on Iran. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 30 2025 3:24 utc | 98 Posted by: 1JZ | Jun 30 2025 3:26 utc | 99 Posted by: acementhead | Jun 30 2025 3:40 utc | 99 Central Asia is collectively booming economically perhaps for the first time ever. One of the initiatives launched by Russia in tandem with the Stans is the construction of schools taught bilingually with the emphasis on Russian and Russian culture to solve the issues around both guest workers and immigration. I applaud this effort as it’s the only way to solve the issue. The Stans’s good times is increasing the birth rate. What was never put into practice during Russian Empire or Soviet times is now being done. The Stans are strong enough to stand on their own and are working with Russia to eliminate the semi-colonial relationship that’s existed between them since Russia gained control. The last vestiges of the Soviet Era have mostly died away or retired from the scene, and the possibility of additional Islamic Republics is very possible. Also recall that Pakistan is also a Stan along with Afghanistan. There’s an opportunity for the flowering of a different political Islam along with the escalating economic wellbeing, which is in-tune with Islamic teachings. |
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