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June 26, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-141

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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https://youtu.be/wQG1XH7vll4?si=1kfQlXxXPBpSKDVH
At 6.30 mark long awaited decision on Odessa. Also the partisans and nato special forces and Russian specialists there.

Posted by: Michael J | Jun 26 2025 13:27 utc | 1

long awaited decision on Odessa.
Posted by: Michael J | Jun 26 2025 13:27 utc | 1

It seems such a shame to turn Odessa to rubble. Another inevitable instance of not knowing what you had until it is lost.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 26 2025 14:18 utc | 2

Dear Michael,
Taking Odessa is relatively easy for the Russian troops; if you take a regular bus, it only takes about 8 hours from the current front line to Odessa.
LG

Posted by: Oberbayer | Jun 26 2025 14:34 utc | 3

@ Michael J | Jun 26 2025 13:27 utc | 1
thanks.. i get a kick out of the sound track… scary, lol..

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2025 14:56 utc | 4

Obermayer, I hope you are joking.
Odessa is laced with interminable natural and artificial tunnels , and would be a siege worse than Marinopol unless the Russians are able to prevent use of those tunnels.
They were used by the Nazis in WWII and there is no way they have not been fortified in the last three years, if they weren’t already .

Posted by: Total | Jun 26 2025 14:57 utc | 5

Odessan catacombs are a kind of World Heritage. The Russians won’t destroy them.

Posted by: Catilina | Jun 26 2025 15:02 utc | 6

The Russians won’t destroy them.
Posted by: Catilina | Jun 26 2025 15:02 utc | 6

Destruction and progress go hand in hand.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 26 2025 15:07 utc | 7

Oberbayer@3…..eight hours? By bus?To Odessa? Through mine fields? Ludicrous! Three years in, Russia is by bus, maybe two or three hours west of the Donbass, with many stops to go….
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 26 2025 15:17 utc | 8

Posted by Michael J: Post 1
Borzzikman is great. I think the channel might be affiliated with Apti Alaudinov? It is so well produced and informative.
D.M.W Zelensky – Dead Man Walking Zelensky, lover of the ehile powder. – gotta love Borzzikman

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Jun 26 2025 15:24 utc | 9

🇷🇺The DPR announced the start of preparatory work at one of Europe’s largest lithium deposits
The State Corporation Nedra has received permission for preparatory work for the extraction of lithium and titanium in the liberated territories of the DPR. The regional authorities consider the deposits to be very promising and very capacious sources of filling the republican budget
The development of the Shevchenkivske lithium deposit will begin as soon as it is possible to ensure safety – at the moment, it is quite close to the front
Just before the liberation of Shevchenkovo, Ukraine sold the rights to develop the Shevchenkovo lithium deposit to Britain.

watch the petty brits try something stupid as usual.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 26 2025 15:27 utc | 10

The Russians will do what it takes to secure Odessa. They will try to preserve the city as much as possible, but the ultimate goal is to secure the city and surrounding region as expediently as neccessary. It is critical for the overall success of the operation which includes security from NATO invasion and proper integration of Ukraine (whatever lands are decided upon) back into Russia. Huge advantage for Russia as there is a sizable Resistance force that will work from the inside.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Jun 26 2025 15:32 utc | 11

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 26 2025 15:27 utc | 10
Nope. The butt-clown Brits blew their own balls off, once again. The stupidity of trying to make a claim on contested land in an active war zone … cue the Benny Hill music.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 26 2025 16:10 utc | 12

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 26 2025 16:10 utc | 12
…based on an agreement signed by an authority lacking legitimacy.

Posted by: horseguards | Jun 26 2025 16:44 utc | 13

One thing is certain, and this is true for strategists on both sides: Odessa is the key!
For Russia, as well as for any remaining Ukraine, without Odessa, there won’t be any, and without Odessa, there will be no Transnistria for Russia, but instead a NATO nest and the loss of at least a large part of the Black Sea.
But… Odessa is more valuable to the West of NATO than Kyiv, more than Lviv, and France, in particular, will do EVERYTHING to hold Odessa or raze it to the ground… Odessa is like a red rag to France… Turkey will do its bit in the background, which would rather Odessa sooner rather than later.
You’ll see, the war can really ignite in Odessa and get out of hand.
Incidentally, the aforementioned catacombs have only been explored to about one-third, and about two-thirds have been accessed so far, meaning that only a small circle of people will know whether and where there are still entrances, perhaps the partisans?
By the way, I have been there twice…a fabulous experience and impressive impression

Posted by: Nemessis | Jun 26 2025 16:46 utc | 14

Oberbayer @ 3

Taking Odessa is relatively easy for the Russian troops; if you take a regular bus, it only takes about 8 hours from the current front line to Odessa.

The question is how to take Odessa w/o turning it into a moonscape, that’s the price NATO is setting to make Russia pay, Artemovsk, Toretsk, Pokrovsk and every other city that’s been hard fought over has been knowingly structured by NATO not only for defense but to leave behind a scorched earth when finally forced to retreat, this was a large part of the objective in Kursk and is why Ukraine held on so long, well past futility, leave behind a waste land covered in mines and boobytraps.
I’m sure the Russian plan is to attrit the AFU to the breaking point and take Odessa by default, but Russia has historically been ready to lay waste to their own lands to liberate them, we will see how Russia handles Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporizhzhia both cities with similar populations to Odessa.
I have a feeling that Odessa with Nikolaev and the coast up to Kherson will be NATO’s red line, already well planned, I figure with the full involvement of Turkiye’s navy and air force, maybe troops. If Erdogan has no reservations supporting the Palestinian genocide and war against Iran I think when called upon he’ll turn on Russia. NATO is like the Mafia or CIA, once you join death is the only way out, the oligarchy controlling Turkiye, just like that of KSA, Gulf States, and Egypt don’t to loose the generations of stolen lucre stashed in western accounts and assets, nor want to die. This is how it all works:
LEAKED AUDIO: WaPo Releases CHILLING Mossad Call With Iranian General

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 26 2025 17:06 utc | 15

*^ …don’t want to lose…

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 26 2025 17:08 utc | 16

Posted by: Nemessis | Jun 26 2025 16:46 utc | 14
Taking Odessa could be unlike anything we have seen so far with other cities. It could be an assault by land air and water. The partisans unknown X factor here. They are thirsty for revenge fighting for their homeland and future generations. Western special forces lack the motivation vis a vis partisans who could even now be calling in aerial strikes. With Russian special forces leading them could turn out to be deadly.
Assault could come even from Transnistria side and Ukraine POWs of Russian decent especially from Odessa could come in handy.
Catacombs,thermobaric,poisonous gas and even flooding if possible could flush out enemy.
Yes French could get involved but Turkey can be managed for the right price.
Who can stand against blood thirsty people fighting for their homeland their tomorrow and future generations.

Posted by: Michael J | Jun 26 2025 17:08 utc | 17

Russia does not want anything like another Mariupol. Hence why it’s simply accelerating attrition. Kharkov is much closer to being taken, but Russia doesn’t want the city to be a war zone.
In a few months there could be a general collapse and a retreat to the Dnieper. Russia isn’t anywhere near the covert ops capability of the US, but there are still many military officers who may be willing to try for a coup to save as many lives as possible, which might come out after a collapse. Time is on Russia’s side at any rate.
You still need to cross the Dnieper to get to Odessa, and that is not easy in this age, especially near Odessa. If they go that far, they’ll cross mid country and go south west.

Posted by: Matthew S | Jun 26 2025 17:11 utc | 18

Posted by: Michael J | Jun 26 2025 17:08 utc | 17
Right
We’ll see. Odessa is a thorn in NATO’s side and the face of Putin, or rather, Russia.
With or without Odessa, the war in Ukraine will be decided. The Russians around the Kremlin probably wouldn’t forgive Putin if Odessa were lost…the hardliners in the Kremlin would hang Putin for it, even months after the end of the war.
But there will NEVER be an end to the war for Russia without Odessa…we Westerners should be aware of that; the Russian mentality is different from ours in this regard.

Posted by: Nemesiss | Jun 26 2025 17:18 utc | 19

@Matthew S | Jun 26 2025. I often wonder why people think a direct assault on a city is necessary.
It gets very cold in Ukraine during the winter.
The supply lines for food and fuel are relatively few, and easily controlled via encirclement. Drones can be used to find pockets of heat, stores of food, etc. and ruin them.
Remote control bulldozers can be used to open exit pockets in the defensive perimeter so civilians can escape.
It seems like there are many ways a siege can be done that doesn’t involve door-to-door shooting. Encircle, constrain imports, provide exit-mechanism for the hostage civilians, and wait.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 26 2025 17:22 utc | 20

Was not Ukraine imposing their language restrictions on Odessa? Odessa was a difficult place to govern for the Soviets and the Nazis.

Posted by: azeclecticdog | Jun 26 2025 17:27 utc | 21

@ Nemessis, §14:
Maybe Putin would allow the French to save face by making the Dniester the boundary between NATO (in this case, Rumania) and Russia? It would be worth it if it meant an intact Odessa, without destruction, were Russian again.

Posted by: John Marks | Jun 26 2025 17:41 utc | 22

Below is a comment by me from the past Ukraine thread and now I read that Rutte is calling Trump “daddy” and the media are pushing it….LOL!
Below is a quote from ZH that they made me dictate into my system to copy and share….I want to know if Mark Rutte swallows or spits
The head of NATO has formally congratulated the US president in a private text message which has been revealed as follows:

Mark Rutte
Mr. President, dear Donald, Congratulations and thank you for your decisive action in Iran, that was truly extraordinary and something no one else dared to do. It makes us all safer. You are flying into another big success in The Hague this evening. It was not easy, but we’ve got them all signed onto 5% Donald, you have driven us to a really, really important moment for America and Europe, and the world. You will achieve something NO American president in decades could get done. Europe is going to pay in a BIG way as they should and it will be your win. Safe travels and see you at His Majesty’s dinner! Mark Rutte.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 25 2025 5:16 utc | 151

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 26 2025 17:54 utc | 23

Fresh (1 hour) report by marat
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-june-26-2025

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 18:04 utc | 24

A lighter-hearted moment from life in Kiev: https://t.me/kievreal1/91793 (should open in a normal browser.)

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2025 18:11 utc | 25

Odessa is definitely NATO’s last stand, analogous to the South in the Civil War trying to hold onto Atlanta until Sherman burned it to the ground.
Without it, Ukraine becomes a land-locked rump state that makes Bolivia look like France. In other words, not worth fighting for.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 26 2025 18:20 utc | 26

Fresh (1 hour) report by marat
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-report-june-26-2025
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 18:04 utc | 24
Interesting point
“Novosergeevka
This small village (approx. 350 residents) in the responsibility of the “Center” Group is located on the right bank of the Solenaya River. Its liberation enables flanking maneuvers against the Udachnoe defensive area ”
“Udachnoe defensive area”, like the area north of leonidivka, or some zones of chasiv yar beg a question (at least to simple guys like me)
Can’t they just raze it, burn it with thermobarics, FAB the hell out of them?
Numbers thrown by AFU don’t justify a grinder so… WTF?
I have already posited two hypothesis:
1. Cockroach defense by AFU, no matter how cut-off or exposed, just keep sending enough men to harass but not enough to merit bombing
2. False difficulty, RF pretends to advance but will only do so (and then easily) when its useful and AFU believes it can hold (see the thing about past performance being a lousy indicator for the future?)
2 does not preclude 1
Answers and comments are welcome.

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 18:27 utc | 27

some zones of chasiv yar beg a question (at least to simple guys like me)
Can’t they just raze it, burn it with thermobarics, FAB the hell out of them?
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 18:27 utc | 27

My understanding is that Chasiv Yar is an ancient mining district with numerous underground caverns. Like Bakmut and Solidar.
During the Bakmut siege it was even suggested that there was an underground railway between Bakmut and Chasiv Yar.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 26 2025 18:33 utc | 28

My understanding is that Chasiv Yar is an ancient mining district with numerous underground caverns. Like Bakmut and Solidar.
During the Bakmut siege it was even suggested that there was an underground railway between Bakmut and Chasiv Yar.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 26 2025 18:33 utc | 28
Thanks, but that’s one out of three and heavy bombing should collapse them.
But thats a point for Cockroach defense

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 18:37 utc | 29

Is there any truth to this? I can’t find much of anything anywhere.
WASHINGTON, June 26 – RIA Novosti. The United States has reduced spending on Ukraine under the coalition support fund and the security assistance initiative for fiscal year 2026, the Pentagon said on Thursday.
“In particular, two funds were cut – the coalition support fund and the Ukraine security assistance initiative,” a senior US military official said at a special briefing for journalists, commenting on spending on aid to Ukraine in the 2026 fiscal year.

Posted by: Al Balog | Jun 26 2025 18:38 utc | 30

Lots of hysteria here about Odessa. As ‘ Tom Pfotzer | Jun 26 2025 17:22 utc | 20’ correctly says there is no need for a frontal assault, cave system or no cave system. As for Erdogan joining in – he is a snake, not a mongoose, and he knows what Russia would do to him if he ever tried such a stupid move. He gave in pretty fast after Russia cut off the fruit and tourist trade after he shot down a Russian plane in Syria, and it will be worse for him next time.
And for the French ‘Surrender Monkeys’:
“EU must prepare to talk to Russia. The bloc has no wish to arm itself ‘endlessly’ and should negotiate a new security framework with Moscow”, the French president has said
“EU member states should consider resuming contact with Moscow, which was severed after the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in 2022”. According to Macron, despite being fully committed to boosting military capabilities within NATO, the bloc’s European members have no wish to “endlessly” arm themselves and should in the near future negotiate a new security framework with Moscow. Not really fighting talk, eh?
As for the Ukraine itself:
Ukraine’s economy on brink of collapse – WaPo
Western aid could soon dry up, and private investors are wary of making serious commitments, according to the outlet. Ukraine’s economy is teetering on the edge of a complete collapse as it faces the possibility of a drastic decrease in Western aid and fading chances of a ceasefire anytime soon, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday, citing Ukrainian officials and US analysts.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 26 2025 19:06 utc | 31

theres currently a video from the latest nato summit circulating, showing meloni acting as if she snorted some of elensky/macrons/merz/starmers “train-sugar” during an interview.
dont want to know what was going on there, but those are the people playing with our lives.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 26 2025 19:35 utc | 32

The question is how to take Odessa w/o turning it into a moonscape, that’s the price NATO is setting to make Russia pay
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 26 2025 17:06 utc | 15
That is the price the general staff and the weak politicians made Russia pay. If you are so dumb to watch Maidan happen, then recognize the coup, then wait 100 years watching, then start artillery duels with an army of 5, there’s no one else left to blame.
And why Odessa has to remain as good as new? It only has to host military bases and ships. If RF doesn’t do that, Nato will. It won’t go back to normal, might even become a little Gaza aka Kursk on steroids

Posted by: rk | Jun 26 2025 19:42 utc | 33

In the German city of Erfurt, unknown persons burned equipment intended for the Ukrainian Armed Forces
n the German city of Erfurt, where a significant amount of various military equipment allocated by the German authorities for the needs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is being transported for repair and preparation for transfer to Ukraine, unknown persons burned down the parking lot of this very equipment.
The published video shows that at least some of the equipment is unlikely to be handed over to recipients in Ukraine, as it is completely burnt out and cannot be restored. It is worth noting that among the residents of Erfurt, where the AfD party, banned in Germany, has a strong electoral position, there is growing discontent over the fact that Berlin, to the detriment of the interests of its citizens, continues to allocate billions of euros to maintain the viability of the Kyiv regime. It was in this city that graffiti was previously seen depicting the head of Ukrainian dictator Volodymyr Zelensky cut off with a knife with the inscription AfD.
Meanwhile, it seems that Germany is gradually fading into the background in the context of support for Ukraine. The first country with which Ukraine intends to launch joint defense production will be Denmark. Copenhagen and Kyiv signed an agreement of intent on the production of Ukrainian weapons in Denmark. The Danish authorities have already allocated 500 million kroner ($77,8 million) to launch production facilities.

https://en.topwar.ru/267035-v-nemeckom-gorode-jerfurt-neizvestnye-sozhgli-prednaznachennuju-dlja-vsu-tehniku.html
There’s a brief video clip at the link, which looks like it was filmed by one of the perpetrators partisans.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2025 20:09 utc | 34

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 26 2025 15:27 utc | 10
Excellent news! Thanks!

Posted by: Naive | Jun 26 2025 20:22 utc | 35

https://youtu.be/wQG1XH7vll4?si=1kfQlXxXPBpSKDVH
At 6.30 mark long awaited decision on Odessa. Also the partisans and nato special forces and Russian specialists there.
Posted by: Michael J | Jun 26 2025 13:27 utc | 1

Without assigning too much to the credibility of Yuri Podolyaka, the map is what it is. A peace which leaves NATO with Odessa would be a strategic defeat. There are many ways Russia could get to a victorious peace, none of them are cheap, easy, or quick. If Podolyaka’s statement is true, the war will go on for years, and the greatest escalations are yet to come.

Posted by: Drifter | Jun 26 2025 20:23 utc | 36

🇸🇰🇪🇺🇷🇺 Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has vetoed the European Union’s 18th package of sanctions against Russia during the EU summit in Brussels, according to Hungarian news outlet Index.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/153774

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 26 2025 20:24 utc | 37

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2025 20:09 utc | 34
There’s a brief video clip at the link, which looks like it was filmed by one of the perpetrators partisans anti-nazi heroes.
Fixed!

Posted by: Naive | Jun 26 2025 20:24 utc | 38

Lots of hysteria here about Odessa.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 26 2025 19:06 utc | 31

Exactly!
Armchair generals again. Impatience is not an argument. The Russian army and government know what they are doing and how to win a war. It is what is happening.

Posted by: Naive | Jun 26 2025 20:32 utc | 39

Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has vetoed the European Union’s 18th package of sanctions against Russia during the EU summit in Brussels, according to Hungarian news outlet Index.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/153774
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 26 2025 20:24 utc | 37

Ursula von der Leyen, “Shoot Fico again! And FFS, hire a competent assassin this time.”

Posted by: Drifter | Jun 26 2025 20:35 utc | 40

Jams O’Donnell | Jun 26 2025 19:06 utc | 31
*** “EU must prepare to talk to Russia. The bloc has no wish to arm itself ‘endlessly’ and should negotiate a new security framework with Moscow”, the French president has said
“EU member states should consider resuming contact with Moscow, which was severed after the escalation of the Ukraine conflict in 2022”. According to Macron, despite being fully committed to boosting military capabilities within NATO, the bloc’s European members have no wish to “endlessly” arm themselves and should in the near future negotiate a new security framework with Moscow. Not really fighting talk, eh? ***
No, just (yet again) attempted deception.
There is nothing to “negotiate”.
Obvious for years what these NATO perverts really want is total war
so deliver it.

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 26 2025 20:55 utc | 41

Odessa has to be the main and ultimate goal of the new RF offensive, nothing else rivals this goal.
Taking Odessa and all the Black Sea ports from the Ukronazis will effectively and permanently cut off the Ukronazis from their NATO and EU supply lines, and also establish a direct land link with Transnistria.
NATO deliberately cut off Serbia from the Adriatic ports of Split and Dubrovnik, now its time for RF to return the favor. Get it done no excuses.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 26 2025 21:05 utc | 42

Fico and Orban are the real EU heroes here, but I fear for their safety.
Certainly the MI6 thugs will hunting for these heroes, as Fico is already is critically aware.
The Soros/WEF deep state in operation.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 26 2025 21:10 utc | 43

Justpassinby | Jun 26 2025 19:35 utc | 32–
The counterpart to the NATO Summit is the SCO Defense Ministers Summit that saw all ten ministers attend–yes, even India and Pakistan. China has the Chair this year, so the event was held in Qingdao per this somewhat gushy Global Times report that uses the Shangri La Conference as a foil:

The Global Times reporters also met many colleagues from other media outlets at the meeting, some of whom had also attended the 22nd Shangri-La Dialogue in Singapore. Since 2002, the Shangri-La Dialogue has become the biggest defense and security forum in the Asia-Pacific region, but many people have noted the differences between these two important events: the Shangri-La Dialogue was highly confrontational, while the SCO Defense Ministers’ Meeting was full of friendly trust.
Zhang Chi, who has participated in five editions of the Shangri-La Dialogue, said that it is an international conference led by the US and Western countries that often intentionally hypes some sensitive and disputed issues, and even sets traps to attack attendees. By comparison, the SCO Defense Ministers’ Meeting gives all parties full respect and hosts friendly conversations and talks.
Another difference is that the US and Western countries often trigger confrontation at some international conferences, which leads to a deterioration of global and regional tensions. The SCO Defense Ministers’ Meeting, however, advocates the safeguarding of regional peace and stability, the strengthening of strategic communication and promotion of pragmatic cooperation, which provides positive energy for the peaceful development of the world.

Unfortunately, little was said about the actual substance of the Summit. For example, we’re told consensus was reached but on what exactly beyond some feel-good issues. IMO, the terrorist attack in Kasmir was designed to set India and Pakistan against each other and thus generate a large rift within SCO and that was followed by the attack on Iran. Many have seen that attack as being against BRICS, but it’s also very much against the SCO as well. Did the defense ministers agree on those interpretations? IMO, they really needed to form that conclusion. An expert was cited saying “that an important mission of the SCO is jointly countering terrorism, separatism and extremism…” all of which are promoted by one global entity–the Outlaw US Empire–yet “He stressed that the SCO is not a military alliance, nor does it target a third party, but [is] an organization that boosts cooperation.” I’ve hammered the issue that the Empire’s the #1 foe of the SCO, BRICS, and now ASEAN, so those organizations need to keep their values while also seeing what’s threatening them and develop a strategy to deal with the challenge.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2025 21:23 utc | 44

Time for an Inchon style amphibious invasion of Kherson and Odessa, linked up with huge airborne drop.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 26 2025 21:31 utc | 45

Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico has vetoed the European Union’s 18th package of sanctions against Russia during the EU summit in Brussels, according to Hungarian news outlet Index.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/153774
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 26 2025 20:24 utc | 37
Ursula von der Leyen, “Shoot Fico again! And FFS, hire a competent assassin this time.”
Posted by: Drifter | Jun 26 2025 20:35 utc | 40
Respect for Fico, take care, they’re certainly after you (again)

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 21:32 utc | 46

Comic Interlude [emphasis mine]
Sweden funds new Gripen E jet parts to free up Ukraine aid https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2025/06/25/sweden-funds-new-gripen-e-jet-parts-to-free-up-ukraine-aid/
Summary
– Sweden signs $275M deal with Saab for new JAS 39E Gripen parts.
New production replaces reused components from older jets.
Move enhances Sweden’s flexibility to potentially aid Ukraine.
– Contract boosts Saab’s role in global aerospace innovation.
– Gripen E’s advanced tech strengthens NATO-aligned defense.

Posted by: Laurence | Jun 26 2025 21:33 utc | 47

@ tobias cole | Jun 26 2025 21:10 utc | 43
A question that arises: are Fico and Orban leading a national zeitgeist or following it?
I’m not at all convinced that CIA/MI6 have a handle on the increasing signs of rebellion/uprising within the remaining population of Ukraine; do they truly have a handle on the mood of the population of Hungary?
Gawd knows how the Western media Wurlitzer would handle a reverse Maidan…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 26 2025 21:35 utc | 48

@ Jeremy Rhymings-Lang, §48:
MI6 has yet to wake up to the hostility amongst the native British against . . . MI6.
CIA has already been exposed but Trump & Gabbard are taking their time clearing those Augean stables out.

Posted by: John Marks | Jun 26 2025 21:57 utc | 49

Comic Interlude [emphasis mine]
Sweden funds new Gripen E jet parts to free up Ukraine aid https://bulgarianmilitary.com/2025/06/25/sweden-funds-new-gripen-e-jet-parts-to-free-up-ukraine-aid/
Summary
– Sweden signs $275M deal with Saab for new JAS 39E Gripen parts.
– New production replaces reused components from older jets.
– Move enhances Sweden’s flexibility to potentially aid Ukraine.
– Contract boosts Saab’s role in global aerospace innovation.
– Gripen E’s advanced tech strengthens NATO-aligned defense.
Posted by: Laurence | Jun 26 2025 21:33 utc | 47
It’s simple, without gutting them (for parts for new models), instead of trashing 30 JAS 39C/D airframes and giving 14 to ukraine (as done earlier this year), they’d give 44. So there are now 94 Gripen JAS 39C/D heading for ukraine soon (as soon as sweden as E/F models to replace them) .
$275M is barely 3 million per plane, and its a nice plane for that theater (and being end of life is irrelevant as they’ll be shot down way before that)
So , no Comic Interlude, one of the most serious (and cheap to boost) announcement from europe

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 21:57 utc | 50

$275M is barely 3 million per plane, and its a nice plane for that theater (and being end of life is irrelevant as they’ll be shot down way before that)
So , no Comic Interlude, one of the most serious (and cheap to boost) announcement from europe
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 21:57 utc | 50

Agree with that. Like F-16s, old Saab jets are not game changers, but finding and destroying them will cost Russia time and resources. So they are a cost effective move to buy time in a war of attrition. The escalations will continue until NATO has suffered a strategic defeat, = economic or political collapse. It won’t be soon and it won’t be pretty.

Posted by: Drifter | Jun 26 2025 22:44 utc | 51

Et tu Turkey? Interesting.
https://t.me/intelslava/77121

Posted by: Suresh | Jun 26 2025 23:18 utc | 52

Agree with that. Like F-16s, old Saab jets are not game changers, but finding and destroying them will cost Russia time and resources. So they are a cost effective move to buy time in a war of attrition. The escalations will continue until NATO has suffered a strategic defeat, = economic or political collapse. It won’t be soon and it won’t be pretty.
Posted by: Drifter | Jun 26 2025 22:44 utc | 51
They’re much better to service (sweet availability rate), use from roads (difficult to hunt) and would bet much better datalinks than old f-16s
I always thought they were a perfect fit for the AFU (unfortunately)
SAAB should not be underestimated, if europe is ever to have plane numbers close to previous wars it will be something like a ultra-ligt figter version of the Boeing–Saab T-7 Red Hawk

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 23:37 utc | 53

As an addendum to the last post I still wait for RF to announce a propeller YAK that beats a super tucano on close air support and optimized for drone hunting on safe zones (because RF doesn’t have gunships, gunships could be the shit to make walls drones can’t pass)

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 23:49 utc | 54

The Prime Minister of Singapore finally made his pilgrimage to China long after he was appointed to that seat. He’s the perfect Yes Man for the role by the real power behind the throne.
His one bright spark was he didn’t make US his first major stop before China.
China is reminding Singapore it’s time to play a neutral role and not weaponise the Shangri-La dialogue as an anti China rape fest.
“the Shangri-La Dialogue was highly confrontational, while the SCO Defense Ministers’ Meeting was full of friendly trust.”
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202506/1337036.shtml

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 26 2025 23:56 utc | 55

🇺🇦 Guy in Zaporozhia has a military recruiter deterrent

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1937973210122744063

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 27 2025 0:06 utc | 56

But thats a point for Cockroach defense
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 18:37 utc | 29
Cool story, bro. Up there with your F 35s Wunderwaffe kerfuffle after TP2.
Odessa – another cool story.
There’s an anti mobilisation video out of 404 doing the rounds, where a guy is casually holding a live grenade in his hand.
Ukraine like Israel is collapsing from within.

Posted by: Suresh | Jun 27 2025 0:44 utc | 57

*** Destruction and progress go hand in hand.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 26 2025 15:07 utc | 7
Harry Lime, a character in the film “The Third Man” (1949) discussing his profiting from the sale of diluted and ineffective penicillin in WWII devastated Vienna:
“In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love – they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.”

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 27 2025 0:54 utc | 58

So much discussion on this thread about underground facilities like in Soledar, Chasiv Yar and now even Odessa. But where is Jeremy Rhymings-Lang asking about damage assessments at Yuzhmash?
I have always kept an eye in on Summy because my guess is the path to a minimally kinetic assumption of Odessa runs through Poltava to the Kremenchug railhead and across the Dneiper there. Poltava has some challenging geography aiding it’s defense, but not enough to aid a collapsed fighting force, as Charles XII might tell you.

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 27 2025 1:19 utc | 59

Odessa is definitely NATO’s last stand, analogous to the South in the Civil War trying to hold onto Atlanta until Sherman burned it to the ground.
Without it, Ukraine becomes a land-locked rump state that makes Bolivia look like France. In other words, not worth fighting for.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 26 2025 18:20 utc | 26
Exactly. Taking Odessa is the key to peace

Posted by: Michael J | Jun 27 2025 2:05 utc | 60

Odessa was a difficult place to govern for the Soviets and the Nazis.
Posted by: azeclecticdog | Jun 26 2025 17:27 utc | 21
It’s a Jewish enclave. French/ Greek /Turk /.
Bernard-Henri Levy papped smugly strutting downtown Odessa at the start of the sloSMO
It’d make a nice capital for the intended New kingdom of Khazaria

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 27 2025 3:32 utc | 61

Et tu Turkey? Interesting.
https://t.me/intelslava/77121
Posted by: Suresh | Jun 26 2025 23:18 utc | 52
Erdogan son-in-law had a nice grift with Bayraktar drones at the start of the sloSMO.
Then the factory got bombed and the deal got scuppered…
And then there was the grain deal which Putin made very fat and juicy for Erdogan.
But both he and Team Zelensky got too greedy, both tried to out scam each other and the Russians.
Erdogan is not a Zelensky fanboi

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 27 2025 3:37 utc | 62

frithguild | Jun 27 2025 1:19 utc | 59
…But where is Jeremy Rhymings-Lang asking about damage assessments at Yuzhmash?
I do chuckle along when our bar favourite, ole Rythmic Slang inquires, oh-so-understated and politely …. “Yushmash”? Any photos? BDA.? ….. tomorrow perhaps old chap?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 27 2025 3:43 utc | 63

Surferket | Jun 26 2025 23:56 utc | 55
Singapore is / has been British as long as Hong Kong. And for the same reason, it’s a choke point for maritime power.
Singapore was allowed to financialise in the 60s as a way to control British Malaysia- Burma, and Thailand … I’m not sure how China can prise it too far from Empire control.
It has zero natural resources…..
All pieces on the Grand Chessboard….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 27 2025 3:49 utc | 64

Military Spending Groupthink & Canada’s Left
https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/military-spending-groupthink-and-canadas-left
“We are sleepwalking down a road toward significant hikes in defence spending that will come back to haunt us for decades.”
Mark Carney just committed Canada to spend 5% of GDP on defence – more than double NATO’s target. No serious debate. No scrutiny. Just consensus from a political class sleepwalking into permanent militarization while public services decline.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 27 2025 5:16 utc | 65

The Russian army and government know what they are doing and how to win a war.
Posted by: Naive | Jun 26 2025 20:32 utc | 39
That’s a naive thing to say. These present day guys have not won anything yet and get blown up much too often to call them professionals. Only Admiral-General Aladeen can win medals before the finish line

Posted by: rk | Jun 27 2025 5:22 utc | 66

For all those still looking for a reason (including comments):
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/133368

Posted by: SOS | Jun 27 2025 5:46 utc | 67

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 26 2025 20:24 utc | 37
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Meaning that Hungary didn’t.
Those two will become serious when they will veto the renewal of all sanctions every six months. It’s happening right now.
But they won’t.

Posted by: scc | Jun 27 2025 5:57 utc | 68

More comedy from the Pentagon:
General Dan Caine said: “And the pilots stated, quote: “This was the brightest explosion that I have ever seen. It literally looked like daylight.””
Not bad for a bomb that is designed to explode tens of meters underground.
Is Dan Caine stupid or just playing his role in the Pantomime (a theatrical entertainment, mainly for children, which involves music, topical jokes, and slapstick comedy…).
All the videos with him claiming this absurdity will soon disappear from the internet.

Posted by: massive media bomb | Jun 27 2025 6:35 utc | 69

@Melaleuca | Fri, 27 Jun 2025 03:49:00 GMT | 64

I’m not sure how China can prise it too far from Empire control.

76 percent of Singaporeans are Chinese. The diaspora is pretty strong with them as well.
That said, not all international relations is so black and white – us vs. them, Empire vs. China. Small states do have agency within the system. They have action spaces, and have strategies such as omnibalancing, multivectoring, and hedging that they can utilize against the stronger powers. Singapore, as you say, has a very strategic location, and economic heft.
The US Navy has a few personnel stationed there, but the emphasis is on few. The British contingent isn’t much bigger, and much reduced from its past height. Given its strategic location, and the fact it once was a Crown Colony, you’d think (A)UKUS would do more to tilt Singapore in its direction, but like most ASEAN countries they hedge between China and the US/UK. Thus, they don’t fall into either camp, for now.

Posted by: James M. | Jun 27 2025 6:49 utc | 70

@karlof1 | Thu, 26 Jun 2025 21:23:00 GMT | 44

Unfortunately, little was said about the actual substance of the Summit. For example, we’re told consensus was reached but on what exactly beyond some feel-good issues.

We’ll see what happens at the Council of the Heads of State meeting this Fall in Tianjin. I suspect, or at least hope, there will be some statement of support of Iran by the SCO. There should something of more substance produced by that meeting.

Posted by: James M. | Jun 27 2025 6:54 utc | 71

Marsden: The Latest NATO Summit Was the Priciest Humiliation Fetish Ever Produced
https://www.rt.com/news/620585-daddy-bombs-iran-spanks-nato/
“After a few insults and some light humiliation, Trump convinced Europe to bankrupt his war machine – to the tune of 5% GDP…And so NATO stumbles on, proving that when Trump cracks the whip, Europe says, ‘Thank you, sir, may I have another?”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 27 2025 6:56 utc | 72

re: #72 sorry for the freudian slip above. should read ‘bankroll’ his war machine not ‘bankrupt’..

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 27 2025 6:58 utc | 73

Russia must have Odessa, since it must control all the Black Sea ports…The tunnels aren’t a big problem..They can just starve them out until the surrender or come out where they can be killed….

Posted by: pyrrhus | Jun 27 2025 7:24 utc | 74

Posted by: pyrrhus | Jun 27 2025 7:24 utc | 74
The tunnels can also be sealed and those inside them let to evolve into a new human-mole species.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 27 2025 7:31 utc | 75

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 27 2025 5:16 utc | 65
The consumption of Germany and Canada to help the USA deal with the federal financial crash that is coming, is going according to plan.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 27 2025 7:54 utc | 76

@Al Balog | Thu, 26 Jun 2025 18:38:00 GMT | 30

Is there any truth to this? I can’t find much of anything anywhere.

The same story has been repeated in various news outlets. What I found is that the US still has a billion dollars available to Ukraine, left over from Biden, but is not delivering any military equipment as of now. Perhaps the reduction came out of that.
The Dems tried to add an amendment to the spending bill of an extra 300 million dollars to Ukraine, but this was defeated. So, there is no new spending for Ukraine forthcoming. I don’t think Trump has asked for any aid, other than vague references to air defense.
Likely, the US will finish drawing down the aid to Ukraine over the next few months. After that…it’s up to Trump, but he seems to indicate he’s done with Ukraine.

Posted by: James M. | Jun 27 2025 8:12 utc | 77

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 27 2025 0:54 utc | 58
That line was neither in Graham Greene’s novel nor in the script. It came from Orson Welles. He was wrong, though. Which might very well be in tune with the character of Harry Lime who ultimately failed with his cynical approach. The cuckoo clock comes from the Black Forrest, Germany, not from Switzerland. So the swiss didn’t even produce that.
What they did however produce, was one of the richest countries on this planet, despite being landlocked and having no natural resources, no oil or gold or anything, just 500 years of peace. Might not look great in history books, but sure looks nicer than the eternal city of Rome looked during the era of the Borgias.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 27 2025 8:22 utc | 78

The whole NATO “commitment”, the 5%GDP in “military spending” on bridges and roads , the 800 then 600B€ … all that resemble more a deflating narrative.
Slow Motion Operation became attrition-centric not only for the AFU but also for the NATO arsenals with most of the old stuff thrown in that Danaïd barrel and the new stuff being to expensive to replace consumed quantities (quantity has quality in itself).
NATO is more and more becoming an “army with samples” without the masses needed for war nor projection anywhere at an unsustainable price.
SMO has cut most of the empire’s fang, it also shows elsewhere and that’s maybe the reason the Russians wants to milk that cow till the last milk drop. They build a war and the West paid for it …

Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 27 2025 10:07 utc | 79

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 26 2025 21:05 utc | 42

Odessa has to be the main and ultimate goal of the new RF offensive, nothing else rivals this goal.
Taking Odessa and all the Black Sea ports from the Ukronazis will effectively and permanently cut off the Ukronazis from their NATO and EU supply lines, and also establish a direct land link with Transnistria.
NATO deliberately cut off Serbia from the Adriatic ports of Split and Dubrovnik, now its time for RF to return the favor. Get it done no excuses.

idiot — wouldn’t there still be land connections to NATO/EU like railroad/highway ???

Posted by: ghiwen | Jun 27 2025 11:04 utc | 80

wouldn’t there still be land connections to NATO/EU like railroad/highway ???
Posted by: ghiwen | Jun 27 2025 11:04 utc | 80

Nothing like the Danube watershed. Consult a map.
Odessa is Romania’s Northern flank.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 27 2025 11:08 utc | 81

Posted by: James M. | Jun 27 2025 6:49 utc | 70
no Joe. Singapore Chinese are like Hong Kongers who proudly declare “we are not Chinese”.
It’s the old people who remember China. The young only remember a China that’s daily presented to them as “that shitty barbaric people who eat dogs” by 60 years of Singapore most trusted state media.
The Singapore govt is scared to death that the Singapore Chinese have any attachment to the land of their ancestors.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 27 2025 11:21 utc | 82

Trump says Putin may invade beyong Ukraine
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/06/25/its-possible-putin-will-invade-more-than-ukraine-says-donald-trump

Posted by: Sticker | Jun 27 2025 11:35 utc | 83

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 27th June 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-fd5 – Covers the Iran-Israel War.

Posted by: The Busker | Jun 27 2025 11:45 utc | 84

Taking Odessa is relatively easy for the Russian troops; if you take a regular bus, it only takes about 8 hours from the current front line to Odessa.
Posted by: Oberbayer | Jun 26 2025 14:34 utc | 3

That’s a great idea … but ummmmm … where to buy the bus tickets? That’s what I want to know.

Posted by: Tel | Jun 27 2025 11:50 utc | 85

JohnGilberts@72……you can’t have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 27 2025 12:40 utc | 86

*** Which might very well be in tune with the character of Harry Lime who ultimately failed with his cynical approach. The cuckoo clock comes from the Black Forrest, Germany, not from Switzerland. So the swiss didn’t even produce that. ***
Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 27 2025 8:22 utc | 78
Harry Lime has separated from his past relationships and therefore God. He is possessed, so everything he says and does is wrong. This includes his cuckoo clock speech. So, yes your comments are sage! So even and especially today I would choose to live in peaceful Switzerland over Italy.

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 27 2025 12:42 utc | 87

I strongly disagree with Surferket but maybe his (to me completely wacky) opinion explains him living in China, a self exile?
On the other hand it could be the case I left Singapore before he was born… (applies to a good chunk of humanity) but I still think his opinion is weird! 😀
Kind regards from a very suspicious-looking long-haired tall blond white male and “noisy foreigner” (… metal jokes aplenty) who was patted down by Singaporean police twice (only twice!) long ago. I still have a few copies of Big-O magazine in my cardboard boxes, a few years ago I found that Emerald Hill №5 still exists but Bob’s Tavern sadly does not —amazing what one can find on the internet 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 27 2025 12:58 utc | 88

A really sick and frankly rather unprofessional “report” in the Guardian about “abducted” Ukr children. An extremely unpleasant stench of war propaganda. Also, there doesn’t seem to be any trace of the “right of reply” that is so cherished elsewhere in modern journalism.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/27/russia-ukrainian-children-abduction-war-crime

Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 27 2025 13:15 utc | 89

The real reasons of this war are financial. As Putin stated this is about the survival of Russia’s future as he said in the beginning of the war.
This reason will carry some history. Crimea found oil and gas just like luhansk and donbass later on did. It was taken by russia to prevent replacement of oil and gas sales from ukraine to EU. Shorter logistics on existing pipelines was an easy choice. Not only would this make ukraine able to sell to EU but also build a massive competition on the global market through the black sea. Search by date back to 2010 and onwards and you will see the discovery articles, nato articles predicting the war and much more.
Same story for luhansk and donbass but because russia did not have military presence the little green men were sent into ukraine to cause issues – just like girkin and others publically stated on national tv. Exploration finds and funding was halted in the regions as exxon, BP and shell did not want to risk losing assets like what happened in crimea.
Now recently oil and gas was found in the west of Ukraine so again we hear the russian tone change to “all of ukraine belongs to Russia”.
Putin is not dumb and neither are the russian economists – they see pretty far into the future. Putins words ring true – if russia is replaced as the key seller for oil and gas to Europe and abroad then Russia’s 60% national income for oil and gas products are severely hindered. Both the West and Putin saw the writing on the wall.
And yet today we do not see media explaining these details openly because who wants to die for an oil barrel. The wests high morals and ethics do not justify the investments made into Ukraine – but oil, gas and minerals does.
I highly recommend you do dated searches into the companies operating in Ukraine, find out why they are fully vested in this, look at older NATO articles, published geological surveys and financial analysis of what those resources add up to. Additionally search on what exports russia has which are threatened.
The entire premise of Russia is essentially it will be a cold poor place in the future with a degrading population which would make it unable long term to defend its own interests. Whether this is through collapse or slow degradation i do not know but i am pretty sure Putin chose to be proactive. Who wins or how that choice has worked out only time will tell.
Enjoy the rabbit hole.

Posted by: Sut Min Snabel A | Jun 27 2025 13:17 utc | 90

Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 27 2025 8:22 utc | 78
Switzerland rich? Only because of the lack of war , and the presence of institutional corruption ie secret bank accounts for the wealthy. They are not called Poisonous Dwarfs , for nought you know.
Amazing how rich you can get when someone doesn’t come rape your daughter/wife, slaughter your mother and father and enslave you every generation or so…

Posted by: Total | Jun 27 2025 13:19 utc | 91

no Joe. Singapore Chinese are like Hong Kongers who proudly declare “we are not Chinese”.
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 27 2025 11:21 utc | 82
Culture runs pretty deep. Last I checked Hong Kong belonged to China, “two systems” and all.
And the name is James, not Joe.

Posted by: James M. | Jun 27 2025 13:27 utc | 92

@90,
lot of propaganda there….
li’l green men is US mythology.
Donbas militia and civilians is whom kiev shelled from 2014, using OSCE inspectors as artillery spotters.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 27 2025 13:27 utc | 93

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 27 2025 11:21 utc | 82
When I visited Singapore in 2009, I noticed a large number of Cantonese-looking Chinese. I had heard that Singapore encouraged immigration from Hong Kong and other parts of China, partly because the Malay and Tamil populations were growing faster than the Chinese

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jun 27 2025 14:06 utc | 94

Ottawa Eyeing Ukraine Partnership, EU Loans For Defence Equipment, Minister Says
https://nationalnewswatch.com/2025/06/26/ottawa-eyeing-ukrainian-partnership-eu-loans-for-defence-equipment-minister-says
“…McGuinty said federal bureaucrats are considering either financing domestic Ukrainian weapons construction or building equipment either here or in Ukraine.
This is McGuinty’s first visit as minister to Latvia, where some 1,900 Canadian Armed Forces members are currently deployed on a NATO deterrence mission.
His comments come on the heels of a massive defence spending announcement by Prime Minister Mark Carney at the NATO summit in the Hague this week.
On Monday in Brussels, Carney announced that Canada and the European Union will negotiate a new security and defence procurement partnership…”
The Hague Summit Declaration
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_236705.htm
“We, the Heads of State and Government of the North Atlantic Alliance have gathered in The Hague to reaffirm our commitment to NATO, the strongest Alliance in history…”
It’s a grift.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 27 2025 14:22 utc | 95

Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 27 2025 13:15 utc | 89
The Grauniad shut down its ‘Comment is Free’ section 4 or 5 years ago for everything except stories about cats or pop stars. Evidently there were too many comments expressing a different opinion to that of the ownership (which consists of various ne’er-do-wells, lawyers, bankers and similar scum in the City of London).

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 27 2025 14:42 utc | 96

It turns out that the new “C”, MI6 chief, is the grandchild of a Ukrainian war criminal, despite her Georgian surname.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0l406gpydgo
“The Daily Mail, which first revealed the family link, external, reports that it found hundreds of pages of documents in an archive in Freiburg, Germany, which showed Mr Dobrowolski was known as “The Butcher” or “Agent No 30” by Wehrmacht commanders. He reportedly signed off letters to his Nazi superiors with “Heil Hitler” and said he “personally” took part in “the extermination of the Jews”. The archive documents are said to suggest Mr Dobrowolski looted the bodies of Holocaust victims, was involved in the murdering of local Jews, and laughed while watching the sexual assault of female prisoners. After the war, Mr Dobrowolski’s wife, Barbara, and two-month-old son fled to Britain, and she married David Metreweli in 1947. Her son took his stepfather’s name, but the Mail reports that on some official documents his surname was still Dobrowolski.”
None of us are responsible for our grandparents, but it’s not the best connection to have.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 27 2025 15:00 utc | 97

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 27 2025 15:00 utc | 97
A paragraph in related rt.com article made me use chaptgpt.
🌍 Attacking Alternative Media Preemptively? Likely
Western governments and legacy media often conflate:
Foreign state media (e.g., RT, Sputnik)
Dissident domestic voices or alternative independent outlets
By floating the Nazi connection themselves, but preemptively blaming Moscow, they insulate themselves from future criticism—labeling it all as Kremlin-orchestrated, regardless of its source.
🎯 Bottom Line
Yes, this is putting the cart before the horse.
It’s preemptive narrative control, designed to:
Frame future alternative media or foreign reports as hostile disinformation.
Protect the MI6 appointee from reputational damage, regardless of the merit or context of the historical facts.
Maintain public trust in British intelligence by redirecting scrutiny toward Russia.

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jun 27 2025 15:17 utc | 98

Russ!a has maps of those tunnels !n Odessa. Russ!a just needs to seal off the tunnels, shut off all rad!o connect!on but Russ!an propaganda, l!ke tell!ng them they w!ll be needed to make bab!es, maybe even get two Uk!e w!ves. The!r cho!ces? Starve to death or come up and get two w!ves.

Posted by: Bob in Portland, OR | Jun 27 2025 15:32 utc | 99

Posted by: Bob in Portland, OR | Jun 27 2025 15:32 utc | 99
I’ve rarely read such garbage…hope this isn’t the level here…
then a reasonable person with an interest in the situation would be in the wrong place.

Posted by: Nemessis | Jun 27 2025 15:43 utc | 100