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June 15, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-132
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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“You are no more capable of running the affairs of this nation than you are of running a brothel!” Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 15 2025 13:33 utc | 1 Hear how China responds to Israeli attacks on Iran which killed military generals, nuke scientists | ShanghaiEye 魔都眼 | Could fit here or the iran thread Posted by: Newbie | Jun 15 2025 15:17 utc | 3 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 13th June 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-8c6 Posted by: The Busker | Jun 15 2025 15:36 utc | 4 Russkii airstrike on Boeing facility in Kyiv. No disruption to ops reportedly. Posted by: gene | Jun 15 2025 16:06 utc | 5
Yeah just what the world wants right now, another Zelensky demand\begging tour. Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 15 2025 17:20 utc | 6 Way less countries properly study the SMO than they should, it seems. Posted by: boneless | Jun 15 2025 18:54 utc | 8 Compiled from several reports, I can provide links and full translations if needed, it would be a long post though: Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 15 2025 19:14 utc | 9 There was also an unconfirmed report that one of the public bomb shelters in Chernihiv was seeking to introduce an admission fee! Initially my mind boggled at the idea, then I remembered, this is Ukraine. Sums it up really. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 15 2025 19:20 utc | 10 knighthawk @ 6 Posted by: steve from oz | Jun 15 2025 19:51 utc | 11 “You are no more capable of running the affairs of this nation than you are of running a brothel!” Posted by: jpc | Jun 15 2025 20:10 utc | 12 @ jpc, §12: Posted by: John Marks | Jun 15 2025 20:53 utc | 13 South Front showing only small gains today, most notable, another breach into Ukraine on the Sumy border west of Gomal. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 15 2025 22:11 utc | 15 What a gift to Russia is the preoccupation of the US, NATO, and the world media on the Middle east. Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 1:25 utc | 16 Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 1:25 utc | 16 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 1:29 utc | 17 “Pakistan calls for Muslim states to unite”. https://www.rt.com/news/619404-pakistan-calls-muslim-fightback-israel/ Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 1:45 utc | 18 George | Jun 16 2025 1:25 utc | 16 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 2:24 utc | 19 Throw everyone in the same box and target them in the same way and they are bound to unite. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 16 2025 2:29 utc | 20 *** Israel will get everything. *** Posted by: frithguild | Jun 16 2025 2:40 utc | 21 Posted by: frithguild | Jun 16 2025 2:29 utc | 20 Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 5:28 utc | 22 Posted by: frithguild | Jun 16 2025 2:29 utc | 20 Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 5:32 utc | 23 Posted by: frithguild | Jun 16 2025 2:29 utc | 20 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 5:37 utc | 24
Those price caps. It’s been boggling my mind. How on earth can the buyer determine the price? Is it only something they amuse themselves with in the EU or how on earth can a foreign entity dictate Russia’s prices and sales conditions? Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 16 2025 6:57 utc | 25 How on earth can the buyer determine the price? Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 6:59 utc | 26 Well that’s not determining the price, that’s haggling. Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 16 2025 7:03 utc | 27 Was just watching footage released by Ukraine’s SBU from Operation Spiderweb and thought just how useless is the Russian military. Then I saw this story and released the Russian military, maybe the most useless backwards military on Earth today. And Russia thinks it can foght NATO when it can’t defend its borders or even its strategic assets. Russia is suffering from Putins lack of vision amd corruption. Posted by: Liam | Jun 16 2025 8:15 utc | 28 Guardian fwiw, not seen any reports elsewhere Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 8:19 utc | 29 Liam | Jun 16 2025 8:15 utc | 28 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 8:24 utc | 30
By refusing to pay more and most importantly organizing a buyer’s cartel to ensure all the other buyers also refuse to bid higher than the established cap. Normally this would be illegal collusion and precisely the type of thing you cannot allow in a free market … but the EU long ago lost interest in freedom of any sort, and for that matter they make up the laws as they go along. Posted by: Tel | Jun 16 2025 8:54 utc | 31 Russia is using Ukraine as a way to weaken Russia. If Russia didn’t want to be weakened then they wouldn’t still be in Ukraine in the first place. The incursion of Kursk is proof of how horrendously exposed the Russians actually are. If they truly thought the West were a threat they wouldn’t drain most of their Soviet stockpile, give Western companies cheap field testing, highlight many of their weak points, and leave themselves so exposed. Posted by: Just Anna | Jun 16 2025 9:24 utc | 32 Posted by: Tel | Jun 16 2025 8:54 utc | 31 Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 16 2025 9:58 utc | 33 Yes Russia, listen to Just Anna! Stop weakening yourself by winning in the ukraine. Posted by: Fred777 | Jun 16 2025 10:03 utc | 34 I hoped for a short time trollfarms would all have been redirected to the middle-east events … forgot the kokhols have their own. Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 16 2025 10:14 utc | 35 German Air Force C130 just left Rzsezow, mysterious Dassault Falcon arrives from Rome. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 10:30 utc | 36 Just looking at the UK’s new “C”, Blaise Metreweli. I assumed she must be married to an Indian guy. but a quick geneaology search tells me it MIGHT be Polish? The first two Metreweli marriages (one of which being Blaises parents) were to a Dobrowsolska and a Borkowska. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 10:45 utc | 37 t.me/llordofwar/459645 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 11:03 utc | 38
terrorists/nazis do as the statesponsors of terrorism (uk/eu) demand. no regard for their own people. just as the zionazis. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 16 2025 11:31 utc | 39 “also show the absence of fear of investors about their possible complete loss during military operations . Considering that the entire logistics infrastructure in Ukraine is used for military purposes , all of it is subject to destruction as a legitimate target” Posted by: rk | Jun 16 2025 12:33 utc | 40 Lord of War say Blaise Metreweli, new MI6 head, is of Georgian paternal descent. Metreveli is a reasonably common Georgian surname. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 12:34 utc | 41 Canada To Join Major European Rearmament Deal As Early As June 23 Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 16 2025 12:46 utc | 42 USAF C17, big military transport, from Ramstein to maybe Eilat – just gone blank. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 12:46 utc | 43 Correction to #42 above: Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 16 2025 12:49 utc | 44
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 16 2025 13:01 utc | 45 Another event to look out for? Or maybe publication in advance will stall it? Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 16 2025 14:19 utc | 46 Posted by: rk | Jun 16 2025 12:33 utc | 40 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 16 2025 15:16 utc | 47 Evacuations seem to be the theme of the day:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/sumshchina/1750049191-evakuatsiya-na-sumshchini-viyihali-vzhe-ponad-60-naselennya (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 16 2025 16:44 utc | 48 Is it just me or have all the highest paid posters moved to the Isreal section to shift the needle there? Posted by: steve | Jun 16 2025 16:50 utc | 49 @ steve | Jun 16 2025 16:50 utc | 49 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 16 2025 17:06 utc | 50 And speaking of high-paid trolls I see @ed4 has popped up in the Tik-Tok thread, squeaking about Russia being “drained”, but then I come across something like the following and wonder if the real draining being done is in Ukraine, and self-inflicted at that:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1750085439-v-ukrayini-vikrili-masshtabnu-koruptsiynu-shemu-zakupivli-tehniki-dlya-zsu (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 16 2025 17:18 utc | 51 I think that at this point it is actually better for Russia if Ukraine does not capitulate. Posted by: jared | Jun 16 2025 17:33 utc | 52 Anyway, I still keep an eye on stuff happening in Ukraine, even if it is now last season’s fashion. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 16 2025 18:22 utc | 53 Missed this one Posted by: Newbie | Jun 16 2025 18:35 utc | 54
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 16 2025 18:22 utc | 53 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 16 2025 18:53 utc | 55 Apparently Chasov Yar might finally be cracking, although I remember Bakhmut/Artemovsk took weeks after the result became obvious. Despite the wreckage of the town, there are still “stay-behind” civilians, now being targeted with Ukrainian drones. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 21:29 utc | 56 Apparently Chasov Yar might finally be cracking, Posted by: Newbie | Jun 16 2025 21:35 utc | 57 Further to #51 – More Ukraine Corruption – Courtesy of EUACI… Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 16 2025 22:55 utc | 58 Per TG @DDgeopolitics Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 16 2025 23:03 utc | 59 https://t.me/s/DDGeopolitics Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 16 2025 23:16 utc | 60 from south Front: Posted by: UWDude | Jun 17 2025 1:26 utc | 62 Posted by: Science Fan | Jun 17 2025 0:55 utc | 61 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 17 2025 1:35 utc | 63 Russian forces reportedly took control of Aleksandria; Posted by: UWDude | Jun 17 2025 1:36 utc | 64 Russia is accruing more dead bodies is because it’s advancing, Posted by: UWDude | Jun 17 2025 1:38 utc | 65 @62 – here ya go Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 17 2025 1:43 utc | 66 Is who controls Andriivka going to be a news/propaganda piece for awhile? Wasn’t it already devastated (for civil purposes, maybe still militarily important) back in 2023? Or is that a name confusion. Posted by: Call it what u will | Jun 17 2025 2:45 utc | 67 Posted by: Call it what u will | Jun 17 2025 2:45 utc | 68 Posted by: watcher | Jun 17 2025 2:57 utc | 68 Posted by: Science Fan | Jun 17 2025 0:55 utc | 61 Posted by: scc | Jun 17 2025 5:09 utc | 69 Name confusion, You are thinking of the Adriivka in Donetsk. This one is in Sumy. Russia reported capturing 2 weeks ago but trainee now accepting Posted by: UWDude | Jun 17 2025 5:21 utc | 70 osted by: UWDude | Jun 17 2025 5:21 utc | 71 Posted by: watcher | Jun 17 2025 5:30 utc | 71 Just came across a very interesting article on Chinese media covering the recent Russian discovery of Ukies using Chinese made 3D printing farms to make bodies of anti personnel mines which due to non metallic properties complicated normal mine detection. Posted by: Surferket | Jun 17 2025 8:23 utc | 72 Posted by: watcher | Jun 17 2025 5:30 utc | 72 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 17 2025 9:32 utc | 73 Hurray! S has a new Ukraine piece! Posted by: Newbie | Jun 17 2025 10:35 utc | 74 austrian standard outlet:
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 17 2025 10:51 utc | 75 Surferket | Jun 17 2025 8:23 utc | 73 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 17 2025 11:35 utc | 76 There’s nothing funny here, though it’s true that the Western military and political establishments are now pure farce. Nothing funny because the farce has had lethal consequences. The unrestrained carnage in Gaza will be a reproach to the West for ever. As for Ukraine, “b” summed up, must be two years ago now, what we are putting our proxies in Ukraine through. A “crime”, he stated. So it is. Has been since 2014. Worse now, after a million and more deaths and economic and societal ruin for Ukraine to match. Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 17 2025 14:05 utc | 77 Lengthy article here discussing problems within Ukraine’s conscription and mobilisation procedures: https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2025/06/16/7517270/ (via translation add-on.)
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Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 17 2025 14:20 utc | 78 Looks like Bilorivkha is finally wrapped up, and Zarichne is being flanked from the north. Finally some acceleration on the Luhansk front? It will be a good day when Lyman is recaptured. Posted by: catdog | Jun 17 2025 14:30 utc | 79 Should have been more precise. The example from the States of the “permanent war hysteria” referred to is the clip of General Keene at 32 minutes in the video above. Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 17 2025 15:10 utc | 80 If anything this war has proved how horrendous Russia is at adapting to war. There doctrine has remained exactly the same. Just spamming artillery and infantry and hoping for the best. There logistics is atrocious, ISR is blind, they have no effective Wild Weasel capabilities, and they rarely ever learn from their mistakes. Russia can not survive a war with a full spectrum force that can hit as hard and punish them as much as the West can. We’ve seen what a fight between NATO and Russian forces has looked like in recent years. Study what happened in Nagorno-Karabakh in 2020 with just artillery, TB2 drones and some loitering munitions and imagine what can happen when a proper full-spectrum force is involved. Posted by: JA | Jun 17 2025 16:55 utc | 81 JA | Jun 17 2025 16:55 utc | 82 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 17 2025 18:00 utc | 82 Genocide-7 2025: PM ‘Goldman-Sachs’ Carney: Billion$ More For Zelensky Regime Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 17 2025 18:03 utc | 83 Big Serge supports English Outsider Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 17 2025 20:42 utc | 84 “Russia enters Dnipropetrovsk”. (???????) by the 90th tank division ? Do they mean the oblast or the city itself ? I assume it’s the oblast. Posted by: WMG | Jun 17 2025 23:04 utc | 85 https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-flaming-olive Posted by: Newbie | Jun 17 2025 23:11 utc | 86 From Big Serge: Posted by: UWDude | Jun 17 2025 23:44 utc | 87 Russia struggles against manpower starved brigades who’s soldiers get 30 days of training, a drone recon-fire complex and cold war era equipment alongside major financial aid. They quite litterally can’t achieve breakthrough. Posted by: Omegaxelots | Jun 18 2025 0:41 utc | 88 From Big Serge: Posted by: Newbie | Jun 18 2025 2:39 utc | 89 Omegaxelots // 89 Posted by: Nobody Special | Jun 18 2025 3:41 utc | 90 Regular Serge but maybe not his best. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 18 2025 4:45 utc | 91 New update from Marat Khairullin, more of an overview of where things stand generally: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-report-from-the-front-june-07a Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 18 2025 13:35 utc | 92 New update from Marat Khairullin, more of an overview of where things stand generally: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-report-from-the-front-june-07a Posted by: Newbie | Jun 18 2025 13:55 utc | 93 As it’s a calm day i think B will let this one stand https://tass.com/politics/1975161 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 18 2025 14:13 utc | 94 “Even when it comes to capitulation, someone has to sit down and talk. Even with criminals, even with terrorists — because otherwise the West and others will perceive it differently,” he said. Posted by: rk | Jun 18 2025 14:32 utc | 95 this is why you never go full shadowbanned Posted by: Newbie | Jun 18 2025 15:46 utc | 96 Why Russia is letting the war drag on slowly: The Duran: Collective West Support for Ukraine Melts Away Posted by: Nobody | Jun 18 2025 16:17 utc | 97 ^^^ Posted by: Nobody Special | Jun 18 2025 16:19 utc | 98 The fuses are getting shorter:
https://news-pravda.com/ukraine/2025/06/18/1442711.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 18 2025 19:00 utc | 99 Big serge writes about WW I and the current world. Posted by: paddy | Jun 18 2025 20:29 utc | 100 |
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