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June 11, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-129
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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https://www.newsinfo.ru/news/military-funding-priorities/888282/ (via translation add-on.)
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1749645975-hlib-v-ukrayini-podorozhchae-ekspert-nazvav-prichini (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 11 2025 17:10 utc | 1 https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA355037.pdf Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 11 2025 17:14 utc | 2 So, near 1.350 casualties day, but almost 30 km2 (28+) Posted by: Newbie | Jun 11 2025 17:39 utc | 3 Israel’s Mossad All Over Ukraine Arms and Intelligence
@4 Posted by: paddy | Jun 11 2025 17:55 utc | 5 Videos of people getting beaten by the TCC in the middle of the street, commanders in the RU army beating deserters for not going to suicide missions, chronically online mfs saying that their side is just on the verge of victory with a frozen frontline. Idk man you people are low key stupid. Posted by: tntkrolw | Jun 11 2025 18:04 utc | 6 And hopefully thats the italics sorted. Posted by: The Terminator | Jun 11 2025 18:20 utc | 8 well that was lame, closing the html tag failed Posted by: The Terminator | Jun 11 2025 18:21 utc | 9 malenkov | Jun 11 2025 18:04 utc | 7 Posted by: Harsh | Jun 11 2025 18:28 utc | 12 Call mama and tell her you have disgraced the blog. Now, italics for everyone. Posted by: Harsh | Jun 11 2025 18:35 utc | 15
“Let them eat cake.” was heard to be said from Bankova Street Posted by: Fred777 | Jun 11 2025 18:44 utc | 16 Find myself wondering whether Russia would ever consider ceasing to allow dual citizenship–but especially dual citizenship w/ Israel. Russian Israelis stand to serve the double function of hating Russia and yet being a human shield that prevents Russia from more aggressive actions against Israel or in support of Russian interests in the region–see Syria, now Israel… Posted by: Paul Damascene | Jun 11 2025 19:26 utc | 19 Looks like b will have to sort it from his side: https://help.typepad.com/troubleshoot_display_issues.html Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 11 2025 19:44 utc | 21 It seems we will be in italics until Chasov Yar falls or hell freezes over Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 11 2025 21:03 utc | 29 Question for the not so sharp Americans that believe that the UK cannot use their nuclear weapons without the US giving them permission: just what the heck kind of meds are you taking? Posted by: ExPat Brit | Jun 11 2025 21:06 utc | 30 What exactly did Oui do in post #4 ? It all started there. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 11 2025 21:07 utc | 31 I dunno, back in ye olden days when the picture went on the blink it just took a good thump on the side of the TV cabinet to restore things… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 11 2025 21:33 utc | 35 Posted by: ExPat Brit | Jun 11 2025 21:06 utc | 30 Posted by: Badjoke | Jun 11 2025 21:38 utc | 36 The average cost of bread is about 200-210 UAH per month. If prices increase by 20%, then expenses will increase by about 40 UAH per month. Posted by: Tichy | Jun 11 2025 21:51 utc | 37 Crude oil has taken a jump upwards, surprisingly. There were predictions of $40 a barrel a month ago. Go Russia ! Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 11 2025 22:05 utc | 38 Posted by: ExPat Brit | Jun 11 2025 21:06 utc | 30 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 11 2025 22:06 utc | 39 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 11 2025 22:06 utc | 39 Posted by: Badjoke | Jun 11 2025 22:19 utc | 40 Alastair Crooke (in a podcast with Judge Napolitano): Posted by: WMG | Jun 11 2025 22:20 utc | 41 Bernard should improve the style of div.comments-body and add font-style: normal; Posted by: JB_2 | Jun 11 2025 22:29 utc | 42
I am sympathetic to the Russians, and I think they’re right to demand something like a Westphalian treaty 2. The problem with that: European elites agreed 1648 in Westphalia after the continent was war-torn to an insane extent — at a time when war was normal! Posted by: Konami | Jun 11 2025 22:35 utc | 44 Lets try to stop his Italic once more (sorry for this useless post) Posted by: JB_2 | Jun 11 2025 22:39 utc | 45 Finally, it is clear all of the posts here are unquestionably slanting to the right. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 11 2025 22:50 utc | 46 @ JB_2 | Jun 11 2025 22:29 utc | 42 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 11 2025 22:52 utc | 47 Re: Posted by: WMG | Jun 11 2025 22:20 utc | 41 Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 11 2025 23:28 utc | 49 Lets try to stop his Italic once more (sorry for this useless post) Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 11 2025 23:30 utc | 50 First: Posted by: Original Child | Jun 12 2025 0:28 utc | 51 **** Posted by: bisfab | Jun 12 2025 0:29 utc | 52 **** Posted by: bisfab | Jun 12 2025 0:33 utc | 53 Interesting narrative tidbit – Doctorow’s discussion with Napolotano focused upon the artificial intelligence employes in drones like those employed in Spiderweb. Clearly not a narrative that would have e been employed if there were no palace coup. If Spiderweb was executed with full cognizance, this “AI drones and US therefore had no overwatch and Trump had no knowledge” would have been put in a can that would have been opened for the MSM far more contemporaneously. The way it’s happening now is a rear guard action. Posted by: frithguild | Jun 12 2025 0:34 utc | 54 Sorry people, one more… Posted by: bisfab | Jun 12 2025 0:38 utc | 55 It’s what happens when you have weapons & don’t use them first. Posted by: Original Child | Jun 12 2025 0:39 utc | 56
Just for balance, I did recently see some articles about food prices in Russia rising too (particularly potatoes). Likely it was Martin Armstrong, in his discussion of rice prices in Japan. Posted by: Call it what u will | Jun 12 2025 0:56 utc | 57 I see that some cheeky Ukrainian hackers tried to sabotage this thread by having several comments point northeast, from their point of view, towards the object of their obsession (Moscow). Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jun 12 2025 3:02 utc | 58 Posted by: Original Child | Jun 12 2025 0:28 utc | 51 Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 12 2025 4:55 utc | 59 When it comes to western policies against everyone Voss says it better https://youtu.be/rKMMCPeiQoc Posted by: 667 | Jun 12 2025 6:29 utc | 60 I continue to believe the people in charge of the Western nation states are not representative of the people those nations govern? IMO, those in charge are representative of the very wealthy, powerful, private owners of state created monopoly powers; they are the king of the mountain few. Posted by: snake | Jun 12 2025 7:37 utc | 61 Original Child | Jun 12 2025 0:28 utc | 51 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 12 2025 7:53 utc | 62 @Posted by: ExPat Brit | Jun 11 2025 21:06 utc | 30 Posted by: Sam | Jun 12 2025 7:58 utc | 63 Eighthman | Jun 11 2025 22:05 utc | 38 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 12 2025 8:01 utc | 64 Hey Bisfab good stuff but … can we try to keep o/t where it should be – it sort of obliterates the specific topic , like the italic weirdness above (jeez did a posters comment do that???). Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 12 2025 8:01 utc | 65 “ Dear Ms. Klöckner, Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 12 2025 8:02 utc | 66 Maybe it’s nothing, maybe just a coincidence. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 12 2025 8:17 utc | 67 It is Russia Day apparently (glorious twelfth?) June. Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 12 2025 8:18 utc | 68 https://www.flightradar24.com/BREUS04/3ac2bb29 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 12 2025 9:10 utc | 69 https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/jun/12/air-india-flight-ai171-plane-crash-ahmedabad-india-latest-updates Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 12 2025 9:13 utc | 70
At least as far as the current German political caste is concerned, it is hopeless. Posted by: Konami | Jun 12 2025 9:44 utc | 71 ¿ʇɐɥʍ ʍoN Posted by: Suresh | Jun 12 2025 9:49 utc | 72
https://t.me/InessaFromYoutube/8501 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 12 2025 10:05 utc | 73 @Norwegian | 73
I see another valuable angle of getting back at the instigators of terror here for our collection. Assymetrically to boot. Posted by: persiflo | Jun 12 2025 10:46 utc | 74 @YetAnotherAnon
Does’t look like a bomb to me. Posted by: persiflo | Jun 12 2025 10:59 utc | 75 Does’t look like a bomb to me. Posted by: too scents | Jun 12 2025 11:03 utc | 76
you know, kuleba may have a point. its time for the british to supply the bodies.
not my son and daughters. fick dich ukro nazi. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 12 2025 11:04 utc | 77 @ Norwegian | Jun 12 2025 10:05 utc | 73 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 12 2025 11:04 utc | 78 @too scents | Thu, 12 Jun 2025 11:03:00 GMT | 76
Yikes. But then, I remember seeing video of an A320 taking off in Frankfurt on one engine and it took them ages to pull up the gear, so … birdstrike maybe? Posted by: persiflo | Jun 12 2025 11:20 utc | 79 Controlled flight into terrain. Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 12 2025 11:28 utc | 80 ukraine is Weekend at Bernie’s situation. is insolvent even with biden and eu pipelines still flowing. no is making debt payments. delaying receipt of soldier remains because of problems paying widows. currently ukraine can do unlimited conscription because of “division of labor” strategy – nato provides funding, ukraine provides bodies. but when funding ends conscription will be too costly because of damage to economy. if somebody working in factory is kidnap during cigarette break and drag into van will affect tax base. no will be possible to man and fund and produce arms at same time. when western monies stop flow then Ukraine will collapse immediately. Posted by: Real Zelensky | Jun 12 2025 11:34 utc | 81 https://youtube.com/shorts/-Zdk6dK5rpw?si=GJijdZrO7csEibKl https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/5345402-vladimir-putin-has-incurred-one-million-casualties-in-his-pointless-war/ Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 12 2025 11:57 utc | 83 European states have put in place the basic legal conditions for the establishment of a Special Tribunal for the crime of aggression against Ukraine. It will be tasked with trying the highest Russian officials for the crime of aggression. Posted by: JB | Jun 12 2025 12:04 utc | 84 Posted by: Michael J | Jun 12 2025 11:57 utc | 82 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 12 2025 12:09 utc | 85 @persiflo | Jun 12 2025 10:46 utc | 74
Yes indeed! Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 12 2025 12:16 utc | 86 Many still debate the origins of the war in Ukraine. Some point to Maidan, Donbass revolt, US meddling, Crimea. These are all valid pieces of the puzzle. But the inevitability of the war began with the Ukrainian independence in 1991. Posted by: RWA | Jun 12 2025 12:17 utc | 87 @persiflo | Jun 12 2025 10:59 utc | 75 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 12 2025 12:18 utc | 88 Boeing corporate shill blames pilot error in 3, 2, 1 … Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 12 2025 12:19 utc | 89 Social media is rife with reports that Trump is in the early stages of dementia – he’s been spotted wearing a catheter under his trousers, a “Foley catheter. Urinary incontinence is a symptom of late stage Prefrontal Temporal Dementia.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 12 2025 12:29 utc | 90 Posted by: RWA | Jun 12 2025 12:17 utc | 87 Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 12 2025 12:36 utc | 91 Eighthman@83….in arty, aka drone war, casualties will run old school 10:1, for every one dead approx 10 with wounds of some type. Those are all casualties. Russia has by now at least 100k dead or more, anyone thinking Ukie has over 1 mil dead and Russia has less than 100k dead is severely deluded. I’d suspect Russia is around 125k dead. So one million casualties is not unexpected. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 12 2025 12:40 utc | 92 Posted by: JB | Jun 12 2025 12:04 utc | 84 Posted by: Naive | Jun 12 2025 12:44 utc | 93 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 12 2025 12:40 utc | 92 Posted by: Naive | Jun 12 2025 12:49 utc | 94 “The US *does* in fact have the final say in deployment & use of Trident.” Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 12 2025 13:01 utc | 95 Why does Israel control the American Adult film industry: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 12 2025 13:08 utc | 96 casualties will run old school 10:1 Posted by: too scents | Jun 12 2025 13:09 utc | 97 90 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUHQugyxqAc&t=78s “I’ve just pissed in my pants, and nobody can do anything about it.” (Major Fambrough, Dances With Wolves) Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 12 2025 13:10 utc | 98 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 12 2025 12:09 utc | 85
If you look closely you can see this is video of a phone playing back a video – borders of the phone screen are occasionally seen. A crude way of copying video. And this is not even the “original” video of phone playing back video, this has been cropped and edited further. If you’ve seen the same video without the artifacts you have probably seen the actually original one. Posted by: Sekava Seppo | Jun 12 2025 13:15 utc | 99 “According to The Wall Street Journal, Ukraine lost more territory in May than in any single month since late 2022, marking a turning point on the battlefield. Russia has notably increased the pace of its offensive in recent months, echoing the momentum it had last autumn before weather conditions temporarily slowed progress. With peace talks stalled, attention has shifted back to the frontlines — where the outcome of the war will ultimately be decided. Moscow is pushing for decisive gains to force Kiev into accepting its terms — terms that Western observers admit are tantamount to Ukraine’s capitulation. Meanwhile, Ukraine’s goal is to inflict enough damage on Russian forces to convince the Kremlin that refusing a ceasefire deal would come at too high a cost. Ukrainian troops on the front are showing signs of collapse. “We expect things to get worse across all directions this summer,” admitted a senior lieutenant near Konstantinovka. “The troops are exhausted. There’s no rotation. Everyone’s at their breaking point.”” Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 12 2025 13:26 utc | 100 |
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