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June 5, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-123

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 5 2025 23:50 utc | 177
RE: badass
<< Regime Media in the voice of Axios is on 5 June reporting that DJT admired Ukraine's *audacious*(TM) attack on Russia's nuclear triad---but the reportage has a bit of Snake Island and Ghost of Kiev about it. The overuse of the word "audacious" is a tell... Everybody in the media has received the same style-sheet from the Associated Press, and they know how to promulgate this narrative. Quite simply, it was *audacious* There is also a *speaking for him* quality to the reportage: DJT is *alleged* to have told "aides in the White House" that he thought the drone attack was "badass." But we don't have confirmation of this assertion, and no one has gone on the record. Regime Media outlets have a stake in portraying DJT's awe of Ukraine's audacity, because they are eager to co-opt DJT back into the neocon's fold. They want him to stop saying complimentary things about VVP and start remembering that DJT is, after all, the president of a country @ war w/ Russia. When the Regime Media can twist unattributed comments uttered by no-name officials to make it seem that DJT has joltingly realigned himself w/ the neocon mission, they can get more clicks for their flailing sites.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 6 2025 1:11 utc | 201

Bannon is a former Navy intelligence officer, Goldman Sachs scumbag, and much of his “journalistic” career was funded by Israel.
He also makes money off Seinfeld reruns (owns some of the copyright credits). He’s a rent-seeking Zionist agent who spends a lot of time promoting anti-China propaganda by characters like Gordon Chang.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 1:13 utc | 202

Russian telegram channels going crazy. Russia strikes Kyiv, the Ukrainians retaliate by destroying Iskander launchers and blowing up another airbase in southern Russia. Looks like Ukraine has been rearmed on the down low.

Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:17 utc | 203

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:06 utc | 202
Within the overall picture I think it is well time that someone spoke out about Graham anyway, and Musk will be having an impact all by himself, he seems to be churning stuff out now and really going for the kill.
Bannon may be trying to support Trump only to curry favour, but who cares, it is increasingly becoming a circus and hardly good for the US image right now.
It is a case of ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’ and if they all start fighting with each other they may all self implode. Dogs eating dogs. But it remains to be seen if someone else may have thrown the bone into the ring to get them tearing each other apart in the first place.
The timing is perfect in a way.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:22 utc | 204

Kiev is being overwhelmed with impacts as Patriot batteries cannot keep up.
KH-101 missiles are striking Ternopil in Western Ukraine.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 1:23 utc | 205

I am reading that Ukraine has put F-16s in the air to shoot down Russian cruise missiles. They have gotten a couple headed for Ternopil, but Ukrainian air defense is being overwhelmed.
I expect this to go on for some time. It is exhausting the Ukrainians of scarce munitions. By Monday, Ukraine will be naked as a jaybird.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 1:27 utc | 206

Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:17 utc | 206
But Russia is smashing Kiev and many other places in Ukraine pretty hard right now and it is sure to continue. If the US is helping Ukraine right now with its terrorism again in Russia after the Putin call with Trump it better watch out.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:28 utc | 207

From Hal T
“Satellites have detected a Russian Missile Launch. Over 100 Ballistic Missiles have been fired inside Russia.
Current trajectory indicates targets inside Ukraine.
UPDATE 8:56 —
WAVES OF DRONES LAUNCHED PRIOR TO THE BALLISTIC MISSILES HAVE UKRAINE’S AIR DEFENSES COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED.”

Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jun 6 2025 1:32 utc | 208

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:28 utc | 210
I understand but Ukraine is actually fighting back during all this and striking inside Russia, not just with drones but it looks like missiles (storm shadows or maybe Germany lied and really did ship Ukraine some taurus missiles).

Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:33 utc | 209

Epstein files now too that Musk is unloading on. “The really big bomb”. No wonder efforts were made earlier in the week to make it look like Musk was drug addict.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:34 utc | 210

Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jun 6 2025 1:32 utc | 211
audacious

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:35 utc | 211

or maybe Germany lied and really did ship Ukraine some taurus missiles).
Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:33 utc | 212
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DUHHHHHHH.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:35 utc | 212

So while we wait to see where and when this ends…
For everyone but perhaps particularly helpful for Indian ex-diplomats and those who share their general point of view.
Not everything is kinetic, I suggest the following is more informative and reasoned than anything else offered.
In my opinion this (and it is a guess) has already happened. Any current public display of retribution is not connected to this change (which will apply the next time).
They both (US and Russia) don’t want to talk about Yuzhmash so they certainly don’t want to say anything real about any current nuclear détente MAD considerations and thus it is useless to judge the attack on the Russian bombers and any response by what is being said (or done) officially by the US and Russia (everyone else —involved or not, even China— are completely irrelevant when it comes to MAD and thus to this).
This fact (MAD between the US and Russia) is by the way also the core reason why Europe is (and has to be, unless completely opting out) geopolitically and militarily subservient to and below the US in relation to Russia. No different than the rest of the last 80 years.
So my guess (and trying to judge by history) is that they (US and Russia) sorted out that the next time (and there likely will be one) Russia will without warning attack whoever they deem responsible or involved no matter where they are and the US will simply stay put and do nothing in return, or —if the US insists— the US gets hit as well (and if the US “survives” that (I’m not sure they will) then it’s WWIII for everybody).
Just so everyone (both sides) know precisely where things are at.
I don’t think the US has any plausible argument against it. There might be an explicit understanding of mutual application. Even if mutual the US allies/slaves and/or US clown factions have now cost the US dearly with their provocations against Russia because the US “umbrella”/”shield” idea/approach has been significantly neutered/corrected (even if the bombers are sort of irrelevant on their own; it is the principle of it that would have been rammed down the US throat far enough to tickle the various US commanders’ toes, diplomatically of course).
No publicity because people might freak out if they understood anything at all or perhaps more likely also if they misunderstood this or that. No need to risk it. I can understand that point of view. The US will already have enough hard work drawing it in cartoon form for the politicians and generals (happening right now? Finished yesterday?).
Could be related to infighting in the US, maybe, possibly.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 6 2025 1:37 utc | 213

No wonder efforts were made earlier in the week to make it look like Musk was drug addict.
Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:34 utc | 213
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The most charitable thing one can say about Musk is that he’s so far “on the spectrum” that he needs medication to behave like a human being.
(This is by no means a defense of Trump.)

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 214

Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:33 utc | 212
Maybe, and it is important to keep a balanced point of view, but I know which country has the greatest air defences by far, and the greatest forces yet to unleash.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 215

Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:33 utc | 212
those iskander launchers were almost a day ago now, and so far, the official footage from ukraine is fireballs in tree lines claiming to be hit iskander launchers.
No taurus missiles required.
And “blowing up” “another” risdia airbase?
Shut up.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 216

Is this what all have been waiting for, the dropping of the gloves?!? Was the attack on the bombers etc yet another provocation to get Russia to reveal their assault potential?
Will Ukraine suddenly reveal potential no one could have expected? Or will all the reserves be completely spent in a last hurrah?
Escalation from this could end up making this everyone’s last post.
I wish a toast to everyone at the bar, beer mug in hand, cheers!

Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jun 6 2025 1:42 utc | 217

Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 1:45 utc | 221
No, youre just a stupid sock thinking nuclear war would somehow result in less casualties for Russia.
That’s how utterly stupid you are.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:47 utc | 218

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 217
Yes that is medication however and he has always shown some signs of autism spectrum, but that also makes him likely to be a very smart guy and currently he seems bent on destroying Trump. Chaos in the administration and the need to defend itself in the media doesn’t bode well for much thought going on about Ukraine and Russia.
I’m not even particularly interested in the individual players, just the overall circus which now has an unpredicted show going on the main arena at a very bad time to reflect a powerful and united US administration or president.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:48 utc | 219

Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:24 utc | 188
> Нам нужен Мир !
> Not before the ukronazis are exterminated.
Маргарита Лисовина – Нам нужен Мир (муз. М.Хохлов, сл. И.Борисевич)
LOL

Posted by: hopehely | Jun 6 2025 1:49 utc | 220

Stalin needed 3.5 years to push Germans&their allies from Moscow to Berlin. Putin needed 3,5 years to push Ukros from Avdiivka to Chasiv Yar. Before 2022 we feared Russia, now we look at Putin’s achievements and cannot stop laughing. Nobody is afraid of Russia anymore.

Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 221

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:47 utc | 222
As I have said before: Jason needs to put wax in his ears and tie himself to the mast of his ship of fools, otherwise the (nuclear) Sirens in his head will keep attracting him to the rocks and all of us Argonauts be killed as well.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:54 utc | 222

Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 225
yeah, your sock account said the exact same bullshit a few hours ago.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:55 utc | 223

Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 225
Not a very smart or safe thing to say right now as Russia moves from SMO to outright warfare like in WWII.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:58 utc | 224

Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 225
> Before 2022 we feared Russia, now we look at Putin’s achievements and cannot stop laughing. Nobody is afraid of Russia anymore.
Who is that ‘we’? You and who else?

Posted by: hopehely | Jun 6 2025 2:01 utc | 225

“… KH-101 missiles …”

If I can ask everyone a favor use a small h please, or use the Russian “X-101”. “KH” messes with my head and associatively leads me to “places” like “A Colder War” which is catnip to me 😛
You don’t want me on catnip, no one does, I’m bad enough without it 🙂
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_Hole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Colder_War
https://web.archive.org/web/20231204074008/http&colon://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/colderwar.htm
I modified the web archive link with “&colon;” instead of the “:” that is actually part of the destination —seems like that is enough to make those links work! Please (copy and) remember! 😀
(Now has to go read the story again).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 6 2025 2:01 utc | 226

Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 1:45 utc | 221
I’m sure Putin and the rest of Russia pay enormous attention to your learned advice with much haste every time you put up a comment on here. Russia would have failed a long time again if it hadn’t been for your constant flow of wise counsel.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 2:04 utc | 227

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 6 2025 1:37 utc | 216
Tempted to disagree. This time some measure of hard punishment is due for the vassals
No more “next time” they take it now and don’t complain
Probably not public

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 6 2025 2:04 utc | 228

This time some measure of hard punishment is due for the vassals
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 6 2025 2:04 utc | 232
oh yeah, i forgot, ten people killed on a train and some bombers hit on the tarmac is “Russia’s Pearl Harbor”

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 2:11 utc | 229

But Russia is smashing Kiev and many other places in Ukraine pretty hard right now and it is sure to continue. If the US is helping Ukraine right now with its terrorism again in Russia after the Putin call with Trump it better watch out.
Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:28 utc | 210
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Don’t feed the troll, a fuel/site storage site got hit not an airbase and the Iskander thing is BS as far as I can tell.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 6 2025 2:33 utc | 230

Reports coming in indicated Kiev is on fire, disproportional reprisal in underway .

Posted by: Grishka | Jun 6 2025 2:40 utc | 231

Lavrov now says none of the planes were destroyed in the drone raid and all can be repaired. So much for Pearl Harbor

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 2:41 utc | 232

The world waits for Russias “response”. All attention is on Mr Putin. The kiev regime has played its card. Now its Mr Putin’s turn. Everyone expects something “big” is about to happen.
Mr Putin, you have everything to gain by waiting. Sometimes, the best form of action is no action.
MAKE THE KIEV REGIME SWEAT. WAIT. THEY WILL MAKE THE MISTAKES, NOT YOU.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Jun 6 2025 2:46 utc | 233

Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 5 2025 19:06 utc | 74
You are very welcome, English Outsider. My apologies for misspelling John Helmer’s last name. It was very late at night, and I am not good with names, never have been.
Kudos to analyzers on this thread. It’s a very helpful read

Posted by: juliania | Jun 6 2025 3:04 utc | 234

Lavrov now says none of the planes were destroyed in the drone raid and all can be repaired.
Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 2:41 utc | 236
we will never know the true extent, but I doubt this.
I do know, however, they did not lose 3000 trained men and multiple heavy ships, auxillery ships, dozens of planes and a battleship in a few hours.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:05 utc | 235

Don’t feed the troll…
Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 6 2025 2:33 utc | 234
I generally agree with not supporting trolls in respect for B. But have you also noticed that the purported troll only made one more comment after I made mine, and was gone?

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:13 utc | 236

My estimations regarding today’s Russian missile attack on Ukraine:
10 Iskander-M ballistic missiles launched, 0 intercepted.
13 Kalibr cruise missiles launched, 2 intercepted.
4 Kh-101 cruise missiles launched, 1 intercepted.
1 Kh-31P launched, 0 intercepted.
27 missiles in total, 3 interceptions.
10.7% interception rate.
As for the targets/impacts:
Ballistic missiles
:
4 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted Chernihiv City.
3 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted Kyiv/its surroundings.
2 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted the area of Hadyach, Poltava Oblast.
1 Iskander-M targeted and impacted Pavlohrad, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.
Cruise missiles:
3 Kh-101s targeted Lutsk City, 2 impacted.
1 Kh-101 targeted Ternopil City. 1 impacted.
4 Kalibrs targrted Lutsk City, 3 impacted.
4 Kalibrs targeted Ternopil City, 4 impacted.
1 Kalibr was shot down near Stryi, Lviv Oblast. Target is unknown.
3 Kalibrs targeted Ozerne Airbase, Zhytomyr Oblast. 3 impacted.
Anti-radar missiles:
1 Kh-31P targeted and impacted Tuzly, Odesa Oblast.
Note: The map of missile trajectories was made live during the attacks. It is not 100% accurate.

Map >>>>> https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1930807837321838927

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 3:14 utc | 237

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:05 utc | 239
I only reported what Lavrov said, I made no claim about it myself.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:16 utc | 238

My estimations regarding today’s Russian missile attack on Ukraine:
10 Iskander-M ballistic missiles launched, 0 intercepted.
13 Kalibr cruise missiles launched, 2 intercepted.
4 Kh-101 cruise missiles launched, 1 intercepted.
1 Kh-31P launched, 0 intercepted.
27 missiles in total, 3 interceptions.
10.7% interception rate.
As for the targets/impacts:
Ballistic missiles:
4 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted Chernihiv City.
3 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted Kyiv/its surroundings.
2 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted the area of Hadyach, Poltava Oblast.
1 Iskander-M targeted and impacted Pavlohrad, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.
Cruise missiles:
3 Kh-101s targeted Lutsk City, 2 impacted.
1 Kh-101 targeted Ternopil City. 1 impacted.
4 Kalibrs targrted Lutsk City, 3 impacted.
4 Kalibrs targeted Ternopil City, 4 impacted.
1 Kalibr was shot down near Stryi, Lviv Oblast. Target is unknown.
3 Kalibrs targeted Ozerne Airbase, Zhytomyr Oblast. 3 impacted.
Anti-radar missiles:
1 Kh-31P targeted and impacted Tuzly, Odesa Oblast.
Note: The map of missile trajectories was made live during the attacks. It is not 100% accurate.

MAP
https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1930807837321838927

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 3:17 utc | 239

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:16 utc | 241
i know, but i just like to remind readers part of the job of the RuMoD is propaganda that minimizes their losses and accentuates Ukrainian losses, much like the trolls jobs are to make 10 dead Russians, “Russia’s Pearl Harbor” while saying two years of steady offensive advance by Russia is, ” hardly moved an inch”.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:30 utc | 240

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 3:17 utc | 242
Do you know if it has it stopped or does it continue?
I keep looking at https://liveuamap.com and there seems to be new explosions and more missiles and drones appearing each time.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:32 utc | 241

Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 3:36 utc | 245
red lineth!
yupth nuketh!
World dethervth it!
Calling me retarded meanth I am thmart and mommy theth I’m betht, thmatetht in univerth.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:38 utc | 242

Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 3:36 utc | 245
also, lets not forget,that eventually, regardless of your moniker, you will eventually explode into yet another raging tirade of your best, but impotent insults, either this sock account, or a new sock account in a pathetic attempt to maintain an air of civility for your “Jason” sock account.
And I will relush knowing the actual petson, you, regardless of moniker, will be going into raging conniptions bordering on aneurysm.
It warms my black, evil heart to think of you dropping dead from your constant trolling and socking one day.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:44 utc | 243

Re: Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 225

Stalin needed 3.5 years to push Germans&their allies from Moscow to Berlin. Putin needed 3,5 years to push Ukros from Avdiivka to Chasiv Yar. Before 2022 we feared Russia, now we look at Putin’s achievements and cannot stop laughing. Nobody is afraid of Russia anymore.

Are you seriously suggesting Germany in World War II was a comparatively stronger country than Ukraine is today?
Not a chance.

Posted by: Julian | Jun 6 2025 3:46 utc | 244

Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 3:36 utc | 245
> Depopulate kolols, denzify Ukraine,
Depopulate what?

Posted by: hopehely | Jun 6 2025 3:46 utc | 245

Are you seriously suggesting Germany in World War II was a comparatively stronger country than Ukraine is today?
Not a chance.
Posted by: Julian | Jun 6 2025 3:46 utc | 248
germany was fighting everyone but italy and Japan, now usa is backed by everyone including germany itself, and the worlds sole super power, usa.
yeah, ukraine is in a better position.
Dont be stupid.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:49 utc | 246

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:38 utc | 246
While I also think Jason is a complete idiot, and I have regularly shut him down myself through argument, and sometimes satire, why are you now feeding a genuine and frequently appearing troll? You may wish to act as the policeman here, but if you want to do that you should also follow the law you seek to implement.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:50 utc | 247

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 5 2025 16:56 utc | 37
“But we get some news, there’ll be some fighting. Something happened a couple of days ago,”
Reminds me of Rep. Ilhan Omar referencing 9/11; “Some people did something.”

Posted by: Paranaense | Jun 6 2025 3:57 utc | 248

You may wish to act as the policeman here, but if you want to do that you should also follow the law you seek to implement.
Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:50 utc | 251
what law? the no socking law?
ueah, “Jason” is a fucking sock, who like all his past socking bullshit, (William, Simon, Lavrovs Dog, and dozens of others) first starts off trying to sound civil, even though I know exactly who he is.
Eventually, since genuine engagement with socks is pointless, (if they wanted genuine engagement, they would not sock in the first place, they are here to troll), I just troll the fucker back.
Eventually, this troll of a thousand names, eventually calls for civility, though he has NEVER actually shown any, just baits and baits for rage and then gets off on seeing people get pissed.
And every time, many here fall for it, telling him they understand he is new and shit. Like… stupid. He aint new, he is the same troll that has been paguing this board for months who cant be banned because he thinks working a VPN is a sign of intelligence and it is his righteous duty to troll MoA with fumb shit like “nuke Ukraine”, and “Putin just likes seeing Russians die for his oligarch friends”
so fuck him. He shouldnt even be here.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:59 utc | 249

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Jun 5 2025 17:11 utc | 43
“Kind of like if we replaced senior leadership with Magic 8 balls?”
Or, in Biden’s case, very, very . . . senior leadership.

Posted by: Paranaense | Jun 6 2025 4:04 utc | 250

Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 0:19 utc | 186
You have zero evidence for what you wrote.
Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:21 utc | 187
I never said I did. I said … quoting some previous poster … that “It seems more likely”. That equates to deduction and supposition no different to all those deducing and supposing that CIA and MI6 are puppetting every Ukrainian op.
If that’s what YOU believe, show evidence. It’s just so easy to implicate the DS baddies for every unproven/unknown causality when you assume Kiev and the SBU are just stupid puppets. Yes they are at some levels, but they still make plenty of ops off their own bat. Blowing bridges and a sneaky truck full of FPV drones into a military airfield visible from Google Earth could quite easily be a homegrown op. Sea drones, now built in Odessa; a new 300 Billion from the EU Hawks; gives 404 lots of creative sabotage facility. Who else carried out the truck op? Fluent, clandestine, native Russian speaking Ukie SBU sleepers.

Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 4:06 utc | 251

Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 4:06 utc | 255
this “longtime lurker, first time poster”, is actually correct on this one.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 4:13 utc | 252

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:59 utc | 253
He’s a troll, you told me not to feed the troll’s, then you feed a troll. You can call him what you like but he is a troll from all definitions, always pushing his same nonsense. B. always says don’t feed the trolls = the apparent ‘law’ here you try to implement too. So I’m just a bit confused as to why you do what you tell others not to do.
A sock puppet is someone who assumes more than one identity here to bolster their arguments, like the former William.
An internet troll is a person who deliberately posts offensive, provocative, or disruptive messages online to provoke emotional responses from others. Their actions can range from harmless jokes to serious harassment, often aiming to disrupt discussions or communities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(slang)

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 4:36 utc | 253

you told me not to feed the troll’s,
Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 4:36 utc | 257
No I didn’t.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 4:38 utc | 254

English Outsider @74
Jeremy @ 80
Always enjoy EO comments; the concept of ‘wild card’ goes many ways.
There is in my view a big internal struggle in the ruling classes of US. Too many cooks. And that is dangerous. Zionists will not necessarily benefit from it, because the outcome of that struggle is definitely a further sliding down of US as economy. US is the donor- and with it in decline, the future of that entity is sealed. This struggle is now getting visible more and more, with Tucker Carlsson, Musk, Rand Paul on one side and Blumenthal, Lindsay Graham, Schumer on the other side. (just picking those name as examples, not that they are the main characters)
Russia must see the impotence of Trump, sitting between them – his mental capacities cannot keep up with all these factions, intrigues, greed from all sides – and Russia must decide not to keep banking of some unified government to do business with. After all he is soon pushing 80!

Posted by: fanto | Jun 6 2025 4:38 utc | 255

“You lost me here, Beatrice. Die Linke? With eminent figures like Bodo Ramelow (“Putin as bad as Hitler”), the party that voted *for* war money (Kriegskredite) and allowed Merz to become chancellor as quickly as possible, without any necessity? The party that helped sell communal flats large scale in Berlin? The party that is so far on the Sozialdemokratisierung that Heidi Reichinek is hyped throughout mainstream media?”
Yeah, as I said, you know nothing about the party, only what the media serves you and now ask yourself why it does that.
Berlin as financially OBLITERATED by the CDU (Merz and Leyens Party, who also dominate the EU making it the corrupt piece of shit that it is) and FDP (a small neocon party with the sole, open focus on ‘freedom’ – of the slaveholders to exploit the slaves and get ever richer).
The LEFT is consequently AGAINST all warmongering including selling weapons.
Ramelow demanded to have peace talks and a non aggression pact at minimum with Russia and warned from Europe and Russia drifting apart.
What you talk about is politics on the level of: we COULD vote against this, then this will destory the coalition in this federal state and we can do nothign anymore for anyone at all, while going against it is absolutely pointless sinec thanks to the votes being idiots, we got zero power to change it anyway.
The Left is FORCED to do that, because our extremely right wing media in germany would INSTANTLY declare them the enemy of everything if they would freely talk about these things and thanks to western peopel being stupid and replacing their brains with that media, that’s obviously a path to instant defeat. That too is the fault of the people.
What do you think happens when you write any truth in germany in the comments about the Ukraine conflict for example even on the most basic level without any opinion, just the stright facts? You will get censored and banned. That’s the regime that is running in germany right now. And that’s just one example.
For a political party this means, that they have to walk on glass. That they must be VERY careful what to say. The AfD can do what they want, because they EXIST to be a fake opposition party, the news is doing everything since over 10 years meanwhile to give them more votes as such. The Left? The Left would be instantly declared to be Russian spies pretty much and since they fight for such disgusting things like human and worker rights, they won’t even get the votes from all the racists.
You are the typical “yeah, I vote for sheer evil, because those angels over there with their 10% power we gave them against the 90% demons, they don’t stop the demons. So they are bad and we are better off with the demons.”
They CAN’T stop them because of people like YOU!
YOU elect the demons into power or let them be elected into power if you just don’t vote at all.
Yeah, you lost me there. You got ZERO sense for responsibility and reason. And THAT is what ruins the whole world. Not all the evil guys at the top, because guess what: without YOU and your buddies who put them there, those evil guys would just be some disgusting freaks, who would be all stupid evil talk, but that’s it. YOU people give them the power to make it more than just talk.
Your last sentence means, that you want a violet revolution. Well, go on then. Do it. Or are you just talk? Then you are far more ridiculous then those who at least try to change something via the possibilities of voting. And by your words it seems that you are not even doing that. So you are one of these people who give their vote to others (because that’s what automatically happens, you don’t vote than the others vote for you).
You clearly got no clue what you are talking about beyond tiktok videos. That too is a well known problem, I know endless people of that kind and they all fall for absolute every single manipulation of the system, many even blindly for the ridiculous fake opposition parties like the AfD (what includes the Duran people, who seem to love every single one of those fake neo right wing opposition parties, no matter how often they fall on their nose with them, they just can’t stop).
Fine, keep doing that. Don’t vote or keep ‘shooting yourself in the head’ with every vote by electing the same corrupt shit into power again and again – then blame everyone else for it, especially the victims of your ill votes.
As long as people don’t get this, nothing will change, because we all know that who can’t even get heir ass up to vote, will for sure not go on a violent revolution and even if, it would lead nowhere, because as long as you don’t start to think, the same or some new evil guys will get into power. That’s why most revolutions fail and just bring the same shit right back.
Germany had a total collapse after total war and total defeat – and where did it lead? Nowhere. The main difference between The 3. Reich and the BRD are the circumstances. Not the moral, not the thinking. Give us the circumstances of 1930-40 back, and we will instantly get this back – including the world war.
Even the fact that Russia can obliterate the whole west many times over barely stops them now from doing that.

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:08 utc | 256

“Jan van Aken was told in no uncertain terms that he was factually wrong but never corrected himself. What do you think?”
I don’t care for the random personal opioniosn of single people. I care about the politic the party itself delivers at the end and the possibilities.
People like Aken and Co are forced to not speak openly and are of course still human on top, so they can make mistsakes. Not even Russia cares much about the whole Biolab thing anymore to push it, KNOWING that it will lead nowhere.
What do you think would happen, if Aken would go with the Biolabs for example? Where do you think would this lead?
It would lead nowhere but damaging himself. If Russia is not able to push this, how should some guy without any power in germany do, hm?
Do I like his social media post? No. By the fact alone that both are in their way right, but the detail matters. Ukraine IS an own state, but it’s clearly also a NATO muppet, but in the end we are not even allowed to talk about this in the west, especially not in germany, because it’s just pointless suicide to do this as long as RIGHT WING EXTREMIST WARMONGER PARTIES ARE IN POWER THANKS TO THE VOTERS.
Should he just have kept his mouth shut? Yeah. But as said: I don’t care for the single politicians and their pointless social media posts.
Telling enough that you peopel love to focus on such things, while completely ignoring the actual political work and all the other things these people say.
Another one of the reasons why it is so simple to manipulate you.

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:17 utc | 257

“”In a historic moment of political instability, the Left Party played the key role in making Merz’ chancellorship possible and paving the way for his extreme right-wing government.””
Complete nonsense. The Left could have worked with the CDU clone AfD to do an absolute pointless PR piece that would have done nothing against Merz.
Again: you people fall for every single manipulation they throw at you, just to avoid thinking about your own responsibility.
Merz and all his other right wing buddy parties got elected by the people. It’s the people’s fault. 100%.
Same for Leyen in the EU. People’s fault.
They LOVE to tell you, that the EU is not democratic, but there ARE electionns and the same assholes who vote the right wing extremist parties into power at home do that there, too.
And no, no fraud needed. The slaves are brainwashed and happy about it, they gladly clinge to their chains, even more when they feel how those are strangling them.

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:23 utc | 258

“Like other commentators I see Die Linke as part of the uniparty. Ten years ago I still voted for them, but have been disappointed, to put it mildly. From what I have seen they had forced Sarah out, exactly because she insisted on the values that you claim Die Linke still holds up. Die Linke instead wanted to focus on identitarian issues and hyperimmigration and other anti-left, pro corporate capitalism agendas.”
See, that’s just wrong. You write about that party and got no clue about them, you follow some PR about them that was also proven wrong by showing what they actually do and fight for in their party program and so on, but you simply don’t know about any of this and the same likely about all the parties.
To make it simple for you: if you inform yourself over social media and alike you are 99% disinformed. At best you will get halftruths, which are even WORSE than lies, because those are like poisened food. You think you ate something, while your innards rott away from it, the truth just abused as a career to make you feed the manipulative lie.
The fact alone tha BSW brought the CDU into power and that for absolute nothing and by that also let them AfD maintain their fake opposition position is bad enough.
Then all the shit talk of BSW, which is just an ego tour of Wagenknecht, using so many lies of the system to simply just abolish the fight against it is horrible.
And when you look at her financial program, that’s even worse than the already bad promisses of SPD and Greens – who never deliver even that, because, like BSW, they sell out to the CDU.
BSW is just another ‘AfD’ tricks just from the left by abusing the endless ego of a single person to keep the system running. They are already crashing down again, but oh my, our right wing media loved to push Wagenknecht over all the years, because with her ego it was so easy to abuse her to hurt the only opposition party in the country and make sure that they will have no impact on the politics beside endlessly informing people about the problems – but as even people like you show, without any impact, because you don’t even read or listen to it.
All you do is listen to some tiktok nonsense or blogger who tells you what you have to think. Clealry none of you followed the actual work of that party and their party program. So what shall we even talk about? You are like the rest.

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:34 utc | 259

Our western systems is like the election for a police chief, but 9 of the 10 candidates are from organized crime organisations – who also controle the whole information process beforehand. And while people COULD be smart enough to still vote for that one good police officer, because it’s obvously the right choice, while to vote for the other 9 is borderline insane – they are not.
Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 5 2025 19:05 utc | 73
Well then, ask the people in Germany aged 60-65+ who spent their lives under precisely this LEFT = former communists of the GDR…
This Left was the first to build prisons like “Bautzen” not for criminals in the normal sense, but for critics of their system.
THEY either have a substandard IQ, but far below it, or have never been confronted with the Left in a monopoly position in a government.
They are probably Germans around 40 or 50 years old, experienced the GDR, when the Left had its dictatorship, as school or kindergarten children, and revel in their parents’ stories.
When in charge, the Left is just as corrupt, or even worse, than ANY other party.
On the contrary, when it comes to their power, they have absolutely no inhibitions when it comes to violence. The Left already existed in a version in the Soviet Union with its Kulags…which, by the way, were also called “labor camps” in East Germany until 1989…did they know or were they kept in the dark about it?
I emphasize that other parties act similarly when it comes to power, albeit more covertly, perhaps. It’s about power, about positions in society, about easy money…and that’s exactly how they TURN every LEFTIST into the worst fascist, which the alleged socialism of the GDR and the Warsaw Pact as a whole was in its principle, in its fear of losing power, like fascism, and moreover, fascism in its definition…still to be confused with Nazism. Fascism is what is practiced today in most, if not all, Western countries…a characteristic of it…” Prevent other opinions at all costs…Fight every opportunity to organize unless you are the initiator yourself.
Good luck with your wish that the Left ever gains power…WE HAVE TESTED IT FOR 40 YEARS MAY…and by we I mean as a family man with responsibility, as a soldier who was forced to serve if he wanted to study, double duty, etc. NOT IN KINDERGARTEN LIKE YOU 99%

Posted by: Beobachter II | Jun 6 2025 5:50 utc | 260

“Russian Ambassador to U.K. says a nuclear response to Ukraine’s attack is off the table but “we have to respond to it”
While not really a surprise, still good to hear it from an official source.

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:59 utc | 261

Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:41 utc | 195
Well said. It translates to English well enough, so I imagine it has special poetic merit in Russian.
We need this one world alright but currently there’s very little effort going towards creating it, I think.

Posted by: pasta | Jun 6 2025 6:16 utc | 262

Posted by: joe911 | Jun 6 2025 6:24 utc | 268
multiple personality disorder

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 6:41 utc | 263

..Maybe, and it is important to keep a balanced point of view…
Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 218

Haven’t seen any links on supposedly Russian Telegram channels reporting the Ukies fighting back. Yea, lots of channels reporting on Russian attack with the Objective Control data. Where can I find those supposedly crazied Russian channels for a balanced point of view?

Posted by: Rutte | Jun 6 2025 6:45 utc | 264

Posted by: joe911 | Jun 6 2025 6:31 utc | 269
many different names, attempts to decieve, but always same tells.
dogs playing poker.
mad as a hatter.
dont do it unless you want to, or maybe being reallybdrunk will help.
Your ego will not be able to handle the inevirable, but do something decent for once in your life, and lay down a garbage bag to make the clean up easier for the working man who has to clean up after your miserable, pathetic, lonely and pointless life.
I guess you could buy some love forbtheblast night, but we all know you wanted the real thing, and knew purchasing it was impossible.
Better luck next time.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 6:49 utc | 265

I see the fascism thing dropping here and there, lets see what fascists have to say for themselves
Contents of the Fascist Manifesto
The Manifesto (published in Il Popolo d’Italia on June 6, 1919) is divided into four sections, describing the movement’s objectives in political, social, military and financial fields.[3]
Politically, the Manifesto calls for:
Universal suffrage with a lowered voting age to 18 years, and voting and electoral office eligibility for all ages 25 and up;
Proportional representation on a regional basis;
Voting for women;
Representation at government level of newly created national councils by economic sector;
The abolition of the Italian Senate (at the time, the Senate, as the upper house of parliament, was by process elected by the wealthier citizens, but were in reality direct appointments by the king. It has been described as a sort of extended council of the crown);
The formation of a national council of experts for labor, for industry, for transportation, for the public health, for communications, etc. Selections to be made of professionals or of tradesmen with legislative powers, and elected directly to a general commission with ministerial powers.
In labor and social policy, the Manifesto calls for:
The quick enactment of a law of the state that sanctions an eight-hour workday for all workers;
A minimum wage;
The participation of workers’ representatives in the functions of industry commissions;
To show the same confidence in the labor unions (that prove to be technically and morally worthy) as is given to industry executives or public servants;
Reorganization of the railways and the public transport sector;
Revision of the draft law on invalidity insurance;
Reduction of the retirement age from 65 to 55.
In military affairs, the Manifesto advocates:
Creation of a short-service national militia with specifically defensive responsibilities;
Armaments factories are to be nationalized;
A peaceful but competitive foreign policy.
In finance, the Manifesto advocates:
A strong extraordinary tax on capital of a progressive nature, which takes the form of true partial expropriation of all wealth;
The seizure of all the possessions of the religious congregations and the abolition of all diocesan benefices, which constitute an enormous liability on the Nation and on the privileges of the poor;
Revision of all contracts for military provisions;
The revision of all military contracts and the seizure of 85 percent of the profits therein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_Manifesto
What was promised and what happened is the same story with any and all political ideas. Theories are fine, people are screwing them up.

Posted by: 667 | Jun 6 2025 7:07 utc | 266

Posted by: joe911 | Jun 6 2025 6:31 utc | 269
Revenge is best served on a cold plate.
What you have seen in the last 24 hrs, although very destructive, is not it, it’s the prelude. The main course will come when they least expect it. Since they know they will get clobbered, the waiting makes it far worse in terms of the psychological stress and it also reduces the ability to prepare for the counter attack. Russia is sensibly and methodically taking the time to prepare something big and effective with cool heads, as it usually does.

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 7:09 utc | 267

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 4:38 utc | 259
You are correct, I apologise, my mistake.
It was: Urban Fox | Jun 6 2025 2:33 utc | 234

Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 7:14 utc | 268

Cruise missile strikes in Lutsk. Pretty far in western Ukraine.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/150166
(you don‘t need Telegram to watch it)

Posted by: NoName | Jun 6 2025 7:18 utc | 269

“Erdogan is ready to provide a platform for negotiations between Musk and Trump.”
Funny from Slavyangrad’s TG.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 6 2025 7:19 utc | 270

“Erdogan is ready to provide a platform for negotiations between Musk and Trump.”
Funny from Slavyangrad’s TG.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 6 2025 7:19 utc | 277
Isn’t it over already? Musk seem to have softened out on the big beautiful bill and disabling space programme. Tesla shorts closed, everyone’s happy. While everyone was watching the shit show of the political entertainment industry, Ukraine got pounded and Israel bombed Beirut and Gaza again.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 6 2025 7:32 utc | 271

… and that’s exactly how they TURN every LEFTIST into the worst fascist
👍
Relic of the Cold War. Indeed once an authoritarian always looking for a position of dictatorship … riding the wave of populism to the far right. Growing up in violence of historical dimension, explosion of violence and aggression follows. Capitalism eats its own and planet Earth. The EU is a dead project … starved in the cloud of the Nobel Peace Prize. Easier not to start wars .. moronic leaders.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 6 2025 7:37 utc | 272

@Beatrice
While not really a surprise, still good to hear it from an official source.
A surprise nuclear ☢️ response on the battlefield will not be advertised … 😊

Posted by: Oui | Jun 6 2025 7:45 utc | 273

@UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:30 utc | 244

the trolls jobs are to make 10 dead Russians, “Russia’s Pearl Harbor” while saying two years of steady offensive advance by Russia is, ” hardly moved an inch”.

The reference to “Pearl Harbor” is a sign that the rhetoric was prepared in advance of the airfield attacks and intended to be used in media. The rhetoric is a giveaway of who the instigators of the attacks are.
Before the 911 false flag, the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) wrote that a “new Pearl Harbor” would be necessary. This was stated in “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” from 2000, anticipating a shift towards a more aggressive U.S. military strategy. Behind PNAC you find Robert Kagan, husband of … Victoria Nuland.
And 24 years later we are looking at the media discussing “Russia’s Pearl Harbor” in the context of the proxy war in Ukraine started by … Victoria Nuland.
Victoria Nuland

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 6 2025 7:55 utc | 274

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:34 utc | 264

The fact alone tha BSW brought the CDU into power

This was my question in my post before. What is this about? Could you explain, what you are referring to? It is the first time such a claim.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 6 2025 8:14 utc | 275

Trump says he told Putin that they are fighting likes children in a park.
In those cases, Usually the parents don’t arm one of the kids to the teeth in order to keep them the fighting, but he conveniently overlooked that.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Jun 6 2025 8:14 utc | 276

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 6 2025 7:55 utc | 281
indeed. It is so easy to see their agenda simply by hearing the repeated power words of their sorcery.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 8:19 utc | 277

Posted by: Beobachter II | Jun 6 2025 5:50 utc | 265
The GDR was clearly a negative example of how communist societies could function. It was oppressive, stagnant, beauraucratic, inefficient. A very unhappy place! But political views which are labeled ‘left’ come in many different forms, with the common goals of a more equal distribution of wealth and power and the priority of the collective over individual needs.
Many positive examples exist and also many negative examples of liberal capitalist or conservative authoritarian systems exist.
Germany during the Brandt-Schmidt era was branded social-democratic, a left wing political system, and it was good. Sweden was even more distributive and was considered extremely successful. Yugoslavia was a socialist country with a solid economy and a satisfied population.
Dismissing egalitarian views in general because of negative experiences in the GDR is an understandable but also unfortunate decision.
Anyway, this is an Ukraine thread, so I am off topic here, as economic systems are not what is on the minds of the ukrainean population right now.

Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 6 2025 8:40 utc | 278

Up until last Sunday, Russia was (credulously, hopefully?) giving the Trump administration every chance to demonstrate avowed peaceful intentions, in deed. That’s all over now, in this new phase of Russia’s fight to survive. Some astute analysis (as usual) from Larry (my emphasis):

Russia’s military doctrine vis-a-vis Ukraine has been, until now, described as a Special Military Operation. In response to the drone attacks on Russia’s strategic bomber bases, Putin has now characterized the military mission as a Counterterrorism Operation. When the Russian government states that it is treating Ukraine as a “counterterrorism operation,” it signifies a strategic shift in rhetoric, tactics and the legal framework, allowing for expanded military and domestic security measures.

https://sonar21.com/russia-is-in-no-rush-to-retaliate/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 6 2025 8:44 utc | 279

What was this? Tactical nuke? Oreshnik?? Missile hitting a huge ammo dump???
https://x.com/MonitorX99800/status/1930771829750223027

Posted by: PJB | Jun 6 2025 8:46 utc | 280

Posted by: PJB | Jun 6 2025 8:46 utc | 287
holy fucking shit

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 8:55 utc | 281

May I humbly suggest that the disagreement about who is to be blamed for whatever in domestic German politics could be moved to the open thread please

Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 6 2025 8:57 utc | 282

Posted by: Night Tripper | Jun 6 2025 8:14 utc | 283
RE: Trump says he told Putin that they are fighting likes children in a park
<< Note, too, DJT *says* he told VVP that *they* are fighting like children in a park. DJT is self-reporting, boosting his insights & amplifying his wisdom as viewed from a rational and objective distance. "Kids. In a park. Fighting. Yawn. Yeah, I'll give it 5 minutes and then break it up." I am in charge, he said in front of Merz in the Oval on Thursday. I'm the parent. *I* get to decide how much damage little Billy and little Charlie do to each other. "And they're children. They're not like you and me, Friedrich, right-?" But the drone attack on one leg of Russia's nuclear triad was, in the parlance of the West, "audacious," maybe even "bodacious" by now. The drone attack had *way* more content & heft than two kids slapping each other around over by the swing-set. One feels a bipolar rush to produce content worthy of attention, an excitement level, a crescendo surge that will make the adrenaline spike. Boring stuff like kids duking it out in a park is reductive. Drumming the fingertips on the tabletop. "Yeah, I'll give it a couple more minutes. No harm, right-? Then I'll step in." "Like children fighting in a park"---the analogy trivializes a war the U.S., including DJT, has created, reducing it to a spat, and *magnifies* DJT's amazing ability, perhaps even bodacious ability, to step in eventually, when *he* has had enough, to calm the children down.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 6 2025 8:58 utc | 283

@ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 6 2025 8:44 utc | 286
SMO vs CTO
Sorry but i dont buy into these copium semantics and hiding behind legal mumbo jumbo. It is lame.
It’s the equivalent of seeing your daughter rap3d and then quibbling over whether the guy who did it broke her panties or slipped her a rohypnol or not. Who fuck1ng cares, when the result is the same?
That deals with the 100,000 dead Russian soldiers and countless civilians raped, dead and displaced since this genius SMO started… the second issue is of far greater importance though.
The issue is, the less Russia responds, the more emboldened NATO gets. This is now evident.
This creates 2 possible scenarios: Russia gets hit with increasingly worse attacks, at which point, it will either have to concede, or escalate, except, having let every other red line go, it will have given the West the perfect argument that it ‘overreacted’, and allow its leaders to justify their next step up the escalation ladder to the population, bringing us even closer to nuclear war. What i mean is, a strong reaction by Putin at this point can only be seen as irrational and inconsistent with everything done previously. This i think is even more dangerous than any other step he could have taken.
Finally, Russia needs to focus on the INTENT, rather than the RESULT of these attacks. No one is talking about what would have happened if >40 strategic bombers were wiped out, instead of the

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 6 2025 9:21 utc | 284

Cont’d (??) from 291
…instead of the dozen or so that got through. What happens when something goes wrong one day, and what NATO calculates as a predicted 10% effective strike turns into a success and causes a devastating strategic blow that Putin can no longer ignore?
Will it have been Russia’s fault or NATO fault for the miscalculation, and at that point, does it even matter when we are in a nuclear war?

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 6 2025 9:28 utc | 285

If Trump didn’t know ….
1. Where’s the outrage ?
2. Where’s the massive public denial ?
3. Where’s the mass firings and people getting hauled in before him for not telling him Russia’s nuclear defence was going to be hit ?
4. Why has Lindsey Graham and Sen. Richard Blumenthal not been thrown in Jail ?
5. Why no phone call to the Europeans ? Instead give red carpet treatment to Merz ?
6. Why has there been no actions whatsoever that you would expect from a president who claims he didn’t know ?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why does the reality feel more like the escalation between Israel and Iran.
Ukraine can do what it wants but America calls Russia and asks for the response to be measured.
Sound familiar ?
It’s Déjà vu with the Israel- Iran escalation only a few months ago. First came the assassination attempts, then the terrorist attacks and then the main strike.
Then the immediate phone call asking for the response to be measured. Lying saying they didn’t know anything about it.
Absolutely NOTHING that has happened since the weekend shows a man who didn’t know. Yet, that’s what we are expected to believe.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 6 2025 9:29 utc | 286

Point to one presidential action since the weekend that proves Trump didn’t know ?
Even those that support him and are heavily invested in his bull shit can’t do it.
Yet, the evidence since the weekend is a mile high by what he hasn’t done after an enemies nuclear defence got hit. He is done absolutely nothing of what a US president would do if they didn’t know. If they were worried about WW3.
Of course a US President knew if one of their biggest enemies nuclear defence was going to be hit. It’s quite frankly ridiculous to think otherwise.
His actions and what he hasn’t done since the weekend prove it.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 6 2025 9:43 utc | 287

@Rubiconned
I trust it will be a measured response … does Trump want Russia to be wiped out? I don’t think so. Merz got a decent reception as he represents a nation. His antagonism towards candidate Trump meant he got to Washington with a deficit.
Will VDL be invited to the White House? The EU doesn’t have geophysical entity, nor a phone number. Last time the envoy was refused in Washington DC. Trump and his cabal hate the European Union …
With Trump it’s about business deals and personalities. Zelenskyy is losing out to Vladimir Putin. Trump knew both have had to deal with “deep state” group … we have to see who wins out in DC. Putin is more solid in his seat than Mr. Trump as his house of cards is collapsing.
Recall the warning to Zelinskyy: “If you don’t make a deal, you will lose your country.” All is in the balance.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 6 2025 9:48 utc | 288

@Sun of Alabama
More important, does VVP know DJT knew? 😊

Posted by: Oui | Jun 6 2025 9:51 utc | 289

They have all been to Russia within the last 6 months.
The Judge, Larry and the Duran and the guests on the Judge, Ray and Doctorow.
Somebody is controlling the narrative of the alt media.
” Peace talks not WW3 ”
Don’t blame Trump for anything. It is imperative the peace talks prevail and we keep talking to the Americans.
Is what I conclude from what I have heard from the alt media since the weekend.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 6 2025 10:06 utc | 290

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 6th June 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-4f1

Posted by: The Busker | Jun 6 2025 10:27 utc | 291

This creates 2 possible scenarios:
Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 6 2025 9:21 utc | 291
the ol shadowbanned “thete are only two possible..” horseshit “logic” and rheyorical bullshit.
all these dumb fucks, and their dumb socks, talking dumb shit aboyt the better hypothetical wars in their dumb heads do so because the reality is Rusdia is winning, and Russia will win, and fakery and false concern is all the ukroids have. Actual victories have been about nil for YEARS
Furthermore, conquering a peer adversary backed by the superpower of the world and its vassals, means there will be casualties, and I will jut be a broken record to counter these losers spammy broken record:
It os better to lose 300,000 men over 10 years than over three years.
Get it through your thick fucking troll skulls.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 10:28 utc | 292

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 6 2025 9:28 utc | 292
the old shadpwbanned “what if, what if, what if” “Putin sucks because what if might happen, and then when what if happens, the consequences will be exactly as shadowbanned predicts, even though NONE of his predictions ever come true.
Oh, I mean “Rubiconned” who writes the exact same way and says the exact same shit.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 10:31 utc | 293

When the escalation was taking place between Israel and Iran. The assassination attempts, the terrorist attacks and the strikes.
Biden distanced himself and denied knowing about the pager attacks and other strikes.
Type into Google the number of denials the Americans made regarding the escalation strikes on Iran.
EVERYBODY knew it wasn’t true.
So that they could immediately call up Iran and ask for the response to be limited. Iran must inform the US of the response.
Move forward a few months and Putin is now sucked into the same game.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 6 2025 10:35 utc | 294

strategically the best response is to keep course and not deviate from the plan just because the enemy did something. The only rational reason for a strong retaliation right now is to save face and send a message that they can hit back, other than that its a waste of ressources.
If they do have the ability to conduct high level assassinations, or destroy a bunch of F16s around lviv with cheap fpv drones, then they 100% should go for it right away. But they most likely don’t. The reason for that are probably some misplaced sense of moral high ground that this is “below them” and that this isn’t what war is supposed to be like, or the fact that they just dont have those capabilities.
Keep in mind ukraine is the most militarized state on earth, and it is digitally surveilled by the most advanced apparatus in the history of the world, NSA, CIA, etc. so any communications with potential collaborator or agent within ukraine made from an android or ios phone can probably be detected automatically. It is also near impossible for males to leave the country, so forget about setting up explosives/drones, leaving the country, and detonating them remotely afterwards.

Posted by: Clown Fatigue | Jun 6 2025 10:35 utc | 295

It is also near impossible for males to leave the country,
Posted by: Clown Fatigue | Jun 6 2025 10:35 utc | 302

this is something everyone in the eu/uk should pay special attention to. remember how ursula always blabbers that “ukraine shares european values wuth the eu” or something. remember how all of the eu nato states are now upping their military spending, talk about conscription, expanding the military and all that juice mic money that people like graham love to jerk off to.
soon, males in the eu will have the same problem as the men in the ukraine. dont think for a moment that our eu regimes wont do exactly the same to YOU if their little project ukraine fails to deliver.
if you have children, especially boys, think about leaving the eu alltogether. if not, get yourself something to protect your family and loved ones.
do not rely on protection from your regime, that openly prepares for a war of aggression on another european state. they dont see you as anything but a tool. wheter a tax monkey, or a meatbag for the frontlines.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 6 2025 10:43 utc | 296

they dont have the capabilities to hit a bunch of f-16s in western ukraine because the population is not as pro-Russian there.
The latest Ukro airfield attack took months to plan, and was highly risky, they made it look easy,but frankly they got a lot of the luck needed to pull it off too.
As far as high level assassinations, same thing, its not easy to just assassinate high level intelligence and officers. If it was, there would be no ground wats, just high level officer assassination campaigns.
And Zelensky is one of the the worst leaders Ukraine could have, which is wonderful for Russia. Assassinating him would be a foolish mistake one dizens oflevels.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 10:45 utc | 297

Amthough Rutte is claiming “ownership” of Baltic and the Black Sea
EU environmental regulations have been blamed for hindering defence preparations against a potential Russian invasion.
Regulations forcing militaries to hit recycling quotas, limit carbon emissions and to protect bird species have blocked European countries from preparations to defend their countries, ministers have argued.
In a leaked letter seen by The Telegraph, defence ministers argued the rules had stopped the expansion of military bases and had prevented the training of fighter jet pilots.
The letter, addressed to defence commissioner Andrius Kubilius said EU legislation should not prevent armed forces of member states from becoming operationally ready for an invasion.
Ministers said it is mainly areas of procurement legislation, nature conversation and environmental protection as well as the burden on defence organisations from various EU legal acts.
The letter was signed by 11 European governments; Sweden, Germany, Belgium, Czechia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Finland, Estonia, Denmark and The Netherlands.
Militaries went to virtual training to continue.

Posted by: Jo | Jun 6 2025 10:49 utc | 298

Horohito surely had many commanders exercisng caution, and many telling him to attack Pearl Harbor, necause America and Britain were already hostile to Japan and helping the Chinese in 1940 and 1941.
The hotheads and “take the war to the supporters of china” advocates won the argument, and Japan made the geostrategic blunder that lost them the war.
Pearl Harbor was a great victory, and funally punished usa for helping China. The hot heads and machos were very pleased.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 10:51 utc | 299

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:34 utc | 264
The fact alone tha BSW brought the CDU into power
This was my question in my post before. What is this about? Could you explain, what you are referring to? It is the first time such a claim.
Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 6 2025 8:14 utc | 282
Well then, as a “Hamburger,” if you actually are one, you really missed everything that happened in Germany…
Should I repeat that in German?
REGARDING the Left…they are the SED of the former GDR, or in other words, the offshoot of the CPSU (CPSU). CPSU is the abbreviation for the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
And about 16 million Germans have experienced what the Left means, and when it comes to their power, they are more merciless than any other party today.
“Put all billionaires against the wall,” then improved to “Put all the rich in labor camps,” etc., not expressed online, NO in public speeches at their party conferences…and no secret service is watching them!
Regardless, today’s 65-year-olds and those from the GDR experienced left-wing governments that were just as corrupt as Ukraine is today, and Russia up to Putin.
Yes, Russia was also the loser in its corruption during the Cold War… because, like with the left, it’s not knowledge that counts to fill decision-making positions, but rather party membership and a bent back when it comes to licking officials’ asses.
Something that then led to the collapse of the old Soviet Union… and to many dead soldiers at the beginning of the SMO, because those old generals, colonels, etc., were never capable of continuing their bullshit like in Soviet times… that’s why so many heads in the Russian leadership are INCOMPETENT in command positions filled by party membership… just by the way. That’s what the left are like when they get into government or leadership positions = power. The worst fascists… or rather, a fascist system.
And again… if you’re under 65, you never really experienced the GDR, more as a schoolchild or kindergarten student… if you tried to make something of your life, let alone study… without three years in the army, at least that was pretty much IMPOSSIBLE.
A Mrs Merkel…was never one thing 100%…on the street in 1989…she sat whining hidden in the back room with her FDJ ID card…oh no, she had already destroyed the LEFT.

Posted by: Beo II | Jun 6 2025 10:53 utc | 300