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June 5, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-123
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 5 2025 23:50 utc | 177 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 6 2025 1:11 utc | 201 Bannon is a former Navy intelligence officer, Goldman Sachs scumbag, and much of his “journalistic” career was funded by Israel. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 1:13 utc | 202 Russian telegram channels going crazy. Russia strikes Kyiv, the Ukrainians retaliate by destroying Iskander launchers and blowing up another airbase in southern Russia. Looks like Ukraine has been rearmed on the down low. Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:17 utc | 203 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:06 utc | 202 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:22 utc | 204 Kiev is being overwhelmed with impacts as Patriot batteries cannot keep up. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 1:23 utc | 205 I am reading that Ukraine has put F-16s in the air to shoot down Russian cruise missiles. They have gotten a couple headed for Ternopil, but Ukrainian air defense is being overwhelmed. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 1:27 utc | 206 Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:17 utc | 206 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:28 utc | 207 From Hal T Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jun 6 2025 1:32 utc | 208 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:28 utc | 210 Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:33 utc | 209 Epstein files now too that Musk is unloading on. “The really big bomb”. No wonder efforts were made earlier in the week to make it look like Musk was drug addict. Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:34 utc | 210 Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jun 6 2025 1:32 utc | 211 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:35 utc | 211 or maybe Germany lied and really did ship Ukraine some taurus missiles). Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:35 utc | 212 So while we wait to see where and when this ends… Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 6 2025 1:37 utc | 213 No wonder efforts were made earlier in the week to make it look like Musk was drug addict. Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 214 Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:33 utc | 212 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 215 Posted by: bored | Jun 6 2025 1:33 utc | 212 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 216 Is this what all have been waiting for, the dropping of the gloves?!? Was the attack on the bombers etc yet another provocation to get Russia to reveal their assault potential? Posted by: Merv Ritchie | Jun 6 2025 1:42 utc | 217 Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 1:45 utc | 221 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:47 utc | 218 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:38 utc | 217 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:48 utc | 219 Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:24 utc | 188 Posted by: hopehely | Jun 6 2025 1:49 utc | 220 Stalin needed 3.5 years to push Germans&their allies from Moscow to Berlin. Putin needed 3,5 years to push Ukros from Avdiivka to Chasiv Yar. Before 2022 we feared Russia, now we look at Putin’s achievements and cannot stop laughing. Nobody is afraid of Russia anymore. Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 221 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:47 utc | 222 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:54 utc | 222 Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 225 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 1:55 utc | 223 Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 225 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:58 utc | 224 Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 225 Posted by: hopehely | Jun 6 2025 2:01 utc | 225
If I can ask everyone a favor use a small h please, or use the Russian “X-101”. “KH” messes with my head and associatively leads me to “places” like “A Colder War” which is catnip to me 😛 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 6 2025 2:01 utc | 226 Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 1:45 utc | 221 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 2:04 utc | 227 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 6 2025 1:37 utc | 216 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 6 2025 2:04 utc | 228 This time some measure of hard punishment is due for the vassals Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 2:11 utc | 229 But Russia is smashing Kiev and many other places in Ukraine pretty hard right now and it is sure to continue. If the US is helping Ukraine right now with its terrorism again in Russia after the Putin call with Trump it better watch out. Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 6 2025 2:33 utc | 230 Reports coming in indicated Kiev is on fire, disproportional reprisal in underway . Posted by: Grishka | Jun 6 2025 2:40 utc | 231 Lavrov now says none of the planes were destroyed in the drone raid and all can be repaired. So much for Pearl Harbor Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 2:41 utc | 232 The world waits for Russias “response”. All attention is on Mr Putin. The kiev regime has played its card. Now its Mr Putin’s turn. Everyone expects something “big” is about to happen. Posted by: HERMIUS | Jun 6 2025 2:46 utc | 233 Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 5 2025 19:06 utc | 74 Posted by: juliania | Jun 6 2025 3:04 utc | 234 Lavrov now says none of the planes were destroyed in the drone raid and all can be repaired. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:05 utc | 235 Don’t feed the troll… Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:13 utc | 236
Map >>>>> https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1930807837321838927 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 3:14 utc | 237 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:05 utc | 239 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:16 utc | 238
MAP Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 3:17 utc | 239 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:16 utc | 241 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:30 utc | 240 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 3:17 utc | 242 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:32 utc | 241 Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 3:36 utc | 245 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:38 utc | 242 Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 3:36 utc | 245 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:44 utc | 243 Re: Posted by: Aleksander Rezmer | Jun 6 2025 1:51 utc | 225
Are you seriously suggesting Germany in World War II was a comparatively stronger country than Ukraine is today? Posted by: Julian | Jun 6 2025 3:46 utc | 244 Posted by: Jason | Jun 6 2025 3:36 utc | 245 Posted by: hopehely | Jun 6 2025 3:46 utc | 245 Are you seriously suggesting Germany in World War II was a comparatively stronger country than Ukraine is today? Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:49 utc | 246 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:38 utc | 246 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 3:50 utc | 247 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 5 2025 16:56 utc | 37 Posted by: Paranaense | Jun 6 2025 3:57 utc | 248 You may wish to act as the policeman here, but if you want to do that you should also follow the law you seek to implement. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:59 utc | 249 Posted by: Clown Shoes | Jun 5 2025 17:11 utc | 43 Posted by: Paranaense | Jun 6 2025 4:04 utc | 250 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 0:19 utc | 186 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 4:06 utc | 251 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 4:06 utc | 255 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 4:13 utc | 252 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:59 utc | 253 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 4:36 utc | 253 you told me not to feed the troll’s, Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 4:38 utc | 254 English Outsider @74 Posted by: fanto | Jun 6 2025 4:38 utc | 255 “You lost me here, Beatrice. Die Linke? With eminent figures like Bodo Ramelow (“Putin as bad as Hitler”), the party that voted *for* war money (Kriegskredite) and allowed Merz to become chancellor as quickly as possible, without any necessity? The party that helped sell communal flats large scale in Berlin? The party that is so far on the Sozialdemokratisierung that Heidi Reichinek is hyped throughout mainstream media?” Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:08 utc | 256 “Jan van Aken was told in no uncertain terms that he was factually wrong but never corrected himself. What do you think?” Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:17 utc | 257 “”In a historic moment of political instability, the Left Party played the key role in making Merz’ chancellorship possible and paving the way for his extreme right-wing government.”” Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:23 utc | 258 “Like other commentators I see Die Linke as part of the uniparty. Ten years ago I still voted for them, but have been disappointed, to put it mildly. From what I have seen they had forced Sarah out, exactly because she insisted on the values that you claim Die Linke still holds up. Die Linke instead wanted to focus on identitarian issues and hyperimmigration and other anti-left, pro corporate capitalism agendas.” Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:34 utc | 259 Our western systems is like the election for a police chief, but 9 of the 10 candidates are from organized crime organisations – who also controle the whole information process beforehand. And while people COULD be smart enough to still vote for that one good police officer, because it’s obvously the right choice, while to vote for the other 9 is borderline insane – they are not. Posted by: Beobachter II | Jun 6 2025 5:50 utc | 260 “Russian Ambassador to U.K. says a nuclear response to Ukraine’s attack is off the table but “we have to respond to it” Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:59 utc | 261 Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:41 utc | 195 Posted by: pasta | Jun 6 2025 6:16 utc | 262 Posted by: joe911 | Jun 6 2025 6:24 utc | 268 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 6:41 utc | 263
Haven’t seen any links on supposedly Russian Telegram channels reporting the Ukies fighting back. Yea, lots of channels reporting on Russian attack with the Objective Control data. Where can I find those supposedly crazied Russian channels for a balanced point of view? Posted by: Rutte | Jun 6 2025 6:45 utc | 264 Posted by: joe911 | Jun 6 2025 6:31 utc | 269 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 6:49 utc | 265 I see the fascism thing dropping here and there, lets see what fascists have to say for themselves Posted by: 667 | Jun 6 2025 7:07 utc | 266 Posted by: joe911 | Jun 6 2025 6:31 utc | 269 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 7:09 utc | 267 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 4:38 utc | 259 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 7:14 utc | 268 Cruise missile strikes in Lutsk. Pretty far in western Ukraine. Posted by: NoName | Jun 6 2025 7:18 utc | 269 “Erdogan is ready to provide a platform for negotiations between Musk and Trump.” Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 6 2025 7:19 utc | 270 “Erdogan is ready to provide a platform for negotiations between Musk and Trump.” Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 6 2025 7:32 utc | 271 … and that’s exactly how they TURN every LEFTIST into the worst fascist @Beatrice @UWDude | Jun 6 2025 3:30 utc | 244
The reference to “Pearl Harbor” is a sign that the rhetoric was prepared in advance of the airfield attacks and intended to be used in media. The rhetoric is a giveaway of who the instigators of the attacks are. Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 6 2025 7:55 utc | 274 Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:34 utc | 264
This was my question in my post before. What is this about? Could you explain, what you are referring to? It is the first time such a claim. Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 6 2025 8:14 utc | 275 Trump says he told Putin that they are fighting likes children in a park. Posted by: Night Tripper | Jun 6 2025 8:14 utc | 276 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 6 2025 7:55 utc | 281 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 8:19 utc | 277 Posted by: Beobachter II | Jun 6 2025 5:50 utc | 265 Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 6 2025 8:40 utc | 278 Up until last Sunday, Russia was (credulously, hopefully?) giving the Trump administration every chance to demonstrate avowed peaceful intentions, in deed. That’s all over now, in this new phase of Russia’s fight to survive. Some astute analysis (as usual) from Larry (my emphasis):
https://sonar21.com/russia-is-in-no-rush-to-retaliate/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 6 2025 8:44 utc | 279 What was this? Tactical nuke? Oreshnik?? Missile hitting a huge ammo dump??? Posted by: PJB | Jun 6 2025 8:46 utc | 280 Posted by: PJB | Jun 6 2025 8:46 utc | 287 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 8:55 utc | 281 May I humbly suggest that the disagreement about who is to be blamed for whatever in domestic German politics could be moved to the open thread please Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 6 2025 8:57 utc | 282 Posted by: Night Tripper | Jun 6 2025 8:14 utc | 283 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 6 2025 8:58 utc | 283 @ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 6 2025 8:44 utc | 286 Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 6 2025 9:21 utc | 284 Cont’d (??) from 291 Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 6 2025 9:28 utc | 285 If Trump didn’t know …. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 6 2025 9:29 utc | 286 Point to one presidential action since the weekend that proves Trump didn’t know ? Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 6 2025 9:43 utc | 287 @Rubiconned They have all been to Russia within the last 6 months. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 6 2025 10:06 utc | 290 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 6th June 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-4f1 Posted by: The Busker | Jun 6 2025 10:27 utc | 291 This creates 2 possible scenarios: Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 10:28 utc | 292 Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 6 2025 9:28 utc | 292 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 10:31 utc | 293 When the escalation was taking place between Israel and Iran. The assassination attempts, the terrorist attacks and the strikes. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 6 2025 10:35 utc | 294 strategically the best response is to keep course and not deviate from the plan just because the enemy did something. The only rational reason for a strong retaliation right now is to save face and send a message that they can hit back, other than that its a waste of ressources. Posted by: Clown Fatigue | Jun 6 2025 10:35 utc | 295
this is something everyone in the eu/uk should pay special attention to. remember how ursula always blabbers that “ukraine shares european values wuth the eu” or something. remember how all of the eu nato states are now upping their military spending, talk about conscription, expanding the military and all that juice mic money that people like graham love to jerk off to. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 6 2025 10:43 utc | 296 they dont have the capabilities to hit a bunch of f-16s in western ukraine because the population is not as pro-Russian there. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 10:45 utc | 297 Amthough Rutte is claiming “ownership” of Baltic and the Black Sea Posted by: Jo | Jun 6 2025 10:49 utc | 298 Horohito surely had many commanders exercisng caution, and many telling him to attack Pearl Harbor, necause America and Britain were already hostile to Japan and helping the Chinese in 1940 and 1941. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 10:51 utc | 299 Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 6 2025 5:34 utc | 264 Posted by: Beo II | Jun 6 2025 10:53 utc | 300 |
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