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June 5, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-123
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 5 2025 19:05 utc | 73 Posted by: Cherrycoke | Jun 5 2025 19:54 utc | 101 The Grayzone Live: ‘I Think I’m A Drone’ (corrected url from #93) Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 5 2025 19:55 utc | 102 Conveniently, he dropped the ball *exactly* when the Russian army was picking up pace. Hasn’t been seen since. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 19:59 utc | 103 i havent been here as much, is Anonymous still posting sqkm gain reports? Posted by: Newbie | Jun 5 2025 20:01 utc | 104 I was so looking forward to helping Anonymous spin increasing sqkm gains into victories for Ukraine. I have so many great ideas for doing so. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 20:02 utc | 105 I was so looking forward to helping Anonymous spin increasing sqkm gains into victories for Ukraine. I have so many great ideas for doing so. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 5 2025 20:05 utc | 106 re: #101 Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 5 2025 20:08 utc | 107 @UWDude | Jun 5 2025 19:41 utc | 87 Posted by: Elber | Jun 5 2025 20:19 utc | 108 Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 5 2025 17:32 utc | 47
Oh dear, silly me, that was supposed to read ‘course of action’.
I was referring to power entities (states), not individuals. However, Diocletian actually is a good example for my view on systems of power and their recurring dynamics. His reforms could not reverse the decline of the empire, just stabilise the situation for a few years. Rome had run into the limit of it’s ability to consume and control more territory. The technology of the time did not allow for further expansion. Inner corrosion and outer pressure had already hollowed out the body of the empire. The rise and fall of power concentrations, inevitable and unstoppable even for somebody as dedicated as Diocletian. Creation, decay, the ebb and flow of the vital forces within our global hive is created in a chaotic and yet somewhat predictable manner. Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 5 2025 20:20 utc | 110 “We just wanna say — this war between Elon and Trump should’ve never happened. Never! It would never have happened if we were President, believe me. It’s a nasty, ugly war — so much hate on both sides. It’s very sad. You’ve got MAGA people, incredible patriots, and Tesla bros — smart guys, very smart — just collapsing. Thousands of them! It’s a disaster. We just want it to stop. We want peace.” Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 5 2025 20:24 utc | 111 Citing the Russian Ministry of Defense, Times of India has reported that elements of three Ukie brigades have surrendered in South Donetsk. I’ve long been awaiting such news. SAVE THOSE LIVES ! Posted by: Catdog | Jun 5 2025 20:26 utc | 112 Elon now calling for impeachment. Wants Vance as POTUS. Saw that one coming. Vance was created like Obama was created. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 20:27 utc | 113 Vids of lights in the sky in Kazakhstan are ciculating with people saying it’s a failed oreshnik launch. Does anybody have more intel on that matter ? Posted by: fabrice | Jun 5 2025 20:32 utc | 114 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 20:27 utc | 113 Posted by: Catdog | Jun 5 2025 20:34 utc | 115 Hello, UWDude. Oddly enough, Anonymous has disappeared… he seemed so persistent to me! Why did he give up? Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 20:34 utc | 116 Who knows if this is on topic, but it looks like some spacecraft breaking up, very similar to when SpaceX Starship failed:
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 20:39 utc | 117 Are drones really such a force multiplier for Ukraine’s low-quality light infantry that even a superpower like Russia can’t advance? Yet Syria fell in a week to a much weaker force. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 20:41 utc | 118 Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 5 2025 17:49 utc | 58
Could you elaborate on that? Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 5 2025 20:41 utc | 119 @fabrice | Jun 5 2025 20:32 utc | 114 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 20:41 utc | 120 From Cassad TG Posted by: Paco | Jun 5 2025 20:44 utc | 121 The Trump/Musk quarrel is starting to look like some kind of coup. Talk about impeachment. Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 20:47 utc | 122 Posted by: Paco | Jun 5 2025 20:44 utc | 121 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 20:50 utc | 123
Posted by: fabrice | Jun 5 2025 20:32 utc | 114 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 5 2025 20:51 utc | 124 Medvedev expresses support for how Trump handled Merz:
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/154674 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 20:51 utc | 125 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 20:47 utc | 122 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 20:53 utc | 126 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 20:50 utc | 123 Posted by: Paco | Jun 5 2025 20:54 utc | 127 Definitely a frontal attack to take down Trump:
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19062
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19065 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 20:57 utc | 128
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19065 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 21:00 utc | 129
and that is precisely why this pos nazi brought it up again. the one thing our german regime has perfected is fingerpointing and projecting, blaming everybody for their woes but themself. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 5 2025 21:06 utc | 130 Looks like a big (?) strike is under preparation:
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/154681
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/129637 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 21:07 utc | 131 Posted by: Exile | Jun 5 2025 15:40 utc | 25 Posted by: Naive | Jun 5 2025 21:12 utc | 132 Love Donbass @ 16 Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 5 2025 21:14 utc | 133 Scott Ritter Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 5 2025 21:18 utc | 134 TG says the hohols have launched a massive drone attack on the Bryansk region Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 5 2025 21:22 utc | 135 It is getting quite funny! Posted by: Naive | Jun 5 2025 21:28 utc | 136 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 19:51 utc | 98 Posted by: Milites | Jun 5 2025 21:29 utc | 137 Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 5 2025 21:14 utc | 133 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 21:34 utc | 138 Friends, elect me and I can end the war between Musk and Trump in 24 hours. One phone call is all that it will take. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 21:38 utc | 139 @JohnGilberts | Jun 5 2025 21:18 utc | 134 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 21:39 utc | 140
the first sensible thing poland did, or the realization that their beloved nazis are getting their asses handed to them by a gas station and hypersonic washingmachines, so now they have to pretend that history matters before grabbing some land from those that wronged them in the past? Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 5 2025 21:48 utc | 141 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 21:39 utc | 140 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 21:54 utc | 142 Posted by: Milites | Jun 5 2025 21:29 utc | 137 Posted by: Naive | Jun 5 2025 21:57 utc | 143 @LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 21:54 utc | 142 Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 5 2025 22:01 utc | 144 Norwegian, Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 22:13 utc | 145 Ukraine is systematically taking out Russian A-50’s so it can’t get intelligence, and then taking out its missile launchers. Posted by: Lanina | Jun 5 2025 22:21 utc | 146 @Lanina. Go away troll. No one’s buying your NAFO bullshit. Posted by: JD | Jun 5 2025 22:27 utc | 147 There won’t be much left soon, and Russia can’t replace them. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 22:39 utc | 148 Posted by: Lanina | Jun 5 2025 22:21 utc | 146 Posted by: HERMIUS | Jun 5 2025 22:39 utc | 149
I cannot speak for Beatrice and I don’t where BSW sold out specifically to Merz. But I can tell you that the selling out is real: I think you’re German and so you must known about Landstagswahl Thüringen, after which the local BSW (with former Linke-functionary Katja Wolf at the top) completely caved in. To gain access to official posts, they conveniently forgot about supposedly BSW staples such as the opposition to supporting the Ukraine war and to new nuclear missiles in Germany. Posted by: Konami | Jun 5 2025 22:46 utc | 150 Pro tips for greenhorn posters full of nuclear energy: Posted by: Konami | Jun 5 2025 22:55 utc | 151 Amb. M.K Bhadrakumar: Russia Must Respond to the Attack on Its Nuclear Forces: Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 5 2025 23:08 utc | 152 Wow! Loads of jumping to conclusions and running around like headless chooks here, I am feeling pretty knackered. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 5 2025 23:11 utc | 153 @Konami #152 Posted by: Roxy | Jun 5 2025 23:12 utc | 154 Roxy: I was just making some fun of our nuclear doom contingent. It gets to my nerves and I m u s t not reply to the troll. So I address nobody. Posted by: Konami | Jun 5 2025 23:15 utc | 155 @Konami #152 Posted by: Roxy | Jun 5 2025 23:17 utc | 156 @156 Posted by: paddy | Jun 5 2025 23:19 utc | 157 1+1 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 5 2025 23:20 utc | 158 Posted by: Konami | Jun 5 2025 22:55 utc | 152 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 23:22 utc | 160 Posted by: Jason | Jun 5 2025 23:03 utc | 153 Posted by: Newbie | Jun 5 2025 23:22 utc | 161 Bis zu 20 Flugzeuge verschiedener Typen sind gerade ueber der Ukraine… Posted by: Naive | Jun 5 2025 23:22 utc | 162 Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 5 2025 23:08 utc | 155 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 23:25 utc | 163 Posted by: Jason | Jun 5 2025 23:03 utc | 153 Posted by: Naive | Jun 5 2025 23:25 utc | 164 russophobe ecstatically ranting. any merit in anything he says? Posted by: pasta | Jun 5 2025 23:26 utc | 165 Global Times is underscoring, almost in triplicate, that the U.S. side *reached out* to China in both the request for a meeting in Switzerland and also, most recently today, in the convo between Xi and DJT, and not the other way around. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 5 2025 23:29 utc | 166 About anonymous… Posted by: Naive | Jun 5 2025 23:31 utc | 167 Posted by: Suresh | Jun 5 2025 23:11 utc | 156 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 23:31 utc | 168 Posted by: pasta | Jun 5 2025 23:35 utc | 170 Russian Army Captures Two of Ukraine’s Last Abrams Tanks Intact: Why Were They Abandoned? Posted by: Newbie | Jun 5 2025 23:36 utc | 171 Posted by: Suresh | Jun 5 2025 23:11 utc | 156 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 5 2025 23:38 utc | 172 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 23:31 utc | 171 Posted by: UWDude | Jun 5 2025 23:41 utc | 173 DJT was so impressed by Ukraine’s *audacious*(TM) drone raids on Russian warplanes that he described them as “badass” to aides, according to Axios. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 5 2025 23:50 utc | 174 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 5 2025 16:14 utc | 27 Posted by: snake | Jun 6 2025 0:05 utc | 175 Posted by: Konami | Jun 5 2025 23:32 utc | 172 Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:07 utc | 176 I see Trump’s whole relationship with Ukraine and Russia and all its concommitant issues through one simple filter. That is, that Trump and his advisors know full well: Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 0:08 utc | 177 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 5 2025 23:50 utc | 177 Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 6 2025 0:08 utc | 178 Quite ou double trump Posted by: Newbie | Jun 6 2025 0:10 utc | 179 Indians are pretty full of themselves after prevailing in their contretemps with Pakistan. Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 6 2025 0:11 utc | 180 Posted by: pasta | Jun 5 2025 23:26 utc | 168 Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:12 utc | 181 Posted by: pasta | Jun 5 2025 23:35 utc | 173 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 6 2025 0:13 utc | 182 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 5 2025 23:50 utc | 177 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 0:19 utc | 183 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 6 2025 0:19 utc | 186 Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:21 utc | 184 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOoWZWi1ums Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:24 utc | 185 Bombers in the air and the (non-existent) Black Sea fleet is working. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 0:27 utc | 186 Lanina | Jun 5 2025 22:21 utc | 146 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 6 2025 0:28 utc | 187 He believes something is really wrong with the Russian Leadership? Allowing so many of its red lines to have been violated.. He suggest if Russia does not respond by starting what amounts to WWIII it might as well surrender.. Posted by: UWDude | Jun 6 2025 0:28 utc | 188 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 0:27 utc | 189 Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:32 utc | 189 Russia lost 50% of its Black Sea fleet to Ukraine and has been unable to replace them. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 6 2025 0:40 utc | 190 LoveDonbass || 139
Donassia – Donasia [don’asha], the slawic soubriquet of Donata, a common Polish girls name. Posted by: persiflo | Jun 6 2025 0:40 utc | 191 Чтоб больше нам не расставаться, Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:41 utc | 192 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 6 2025 0:40 utc | 193 Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:47 utc | 193 Many posts are being filtered. not like B.. ? IS someone else doing the filtering? Posted by: snake | Jun 6 2025 0:48 utc | 194 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 5 2025 14:59 utc | 15 Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 0:51 utc | 195 Posted by: snake | Jun 6 2025 0:05 utc | 178 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 6 2025 0:56 utc | 196 Posted by: Naive | Jun 6 2025 0:32 utc | 192 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 0:59 utc | 197 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 6 2025 0:56 utc | 199 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 6 2025 1:01 utc | 198 I’m also surprised that people like Steven Bannon who seemed to be quite dangerous in Trump’s first presidency are now calling for the arrest or passport confiscation of Lindsay Graham Posted by: malenkov | Jun 6 2025 1:06 utc | 199 Looks like there is a glimmer of hope with Musk after all, he and Trump appear to be at war with each other now. It couldn’t happen at a better time. Posted by: George | Jun 6 2025 1:11 utc | 200 |
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