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June 15, 2025
Tic-Toc Thread On The War On Iran
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O/T – does anyone know of a good open source local network traffic monitoring application? I’m having some suspicious things happening on my PC, starting in the past couple of days. Or is there a native Windows command prompt to list all IP/port connections my PC is making/accepting?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 3:28 utc | 603
Tom, you should make a backup of your system. A full copy of the hard drive on removable media. A back up hard drive is nice because you can physically swap it out. Qubes OS is the most secure Linux distro. Any important files or account credentials should be on air gapped media, removable media and paper copies is better.
It doesn’t matter how good your security is if the spooks decide to come after you, their hackers are better. During the covid crazies, some of the doctors targeted for disinformation had their Google accounts deleted and lost everything on their Google cloud drive. So back up early and often.
Q: When did Noah build the ark?
A: Before the flood.
Posted by: team10tim | Jun 16 2025 5:56 utc | 701
LOL!
I hope as I go out, as much textual white noise is focused on me as is focused on Peter AU1.
I am one of those that believes this is the same Peter as the old Peter and textual white noise here about the issue says more about the naysayers than Peter, who wants to enjoy a bit of favorable online community like myself.
Peter has and continues to go through some shit and I know a bit about that having been hit by a truck riding my bicycle 19 years ago. I thought about ending my life like Peter but didn’t work on it as hard…grin…. and now have healed beyond expectation and want to see the shit show go forward a bit….that said, I live in pain and rant about the evils of private finance hoping those devils will make me a martyr for a just cause.
Back to our civilization war…..the shit show continues until it doesn’t
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 16 2025 5:58 utc | 702
Mustn’t be enough war action happening in the world at the moment.
War and disagreement between M of A comment makers is proportional to the magnitude of war in the real world.
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 6:00 utc | 703
At which point will American assistance to Israel be too much for China and Russia?
Because the goal is obviously to move the center of WW111 to the ME.
If they let this slip unopposed, they will live to rue it for a while.
I would start showing a serious interest in Mexico, Canada and Cuba again.
Or get some nuclear subs out and about those areas, presto. And with a bit of fanfare.
Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 16 2025 6:01 utc | 704
Israel has a huge Filipino population (OSW) that will unfortunately be victims of this disaster
that Netanyahu and US/UK/France started.
I feel bad for them, as they are good people that don’t deserve to be in the cross hairs.
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 16 2025 6:05 utc | 705
This is a bloody laugh and a half. Much amusement to be had in the white noise. The macfat burgers have seen a ghost…
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 6:09 utc | 706
LOL!
@ Someone has fed Peter.AU1’s old posts into a LLM for a laugh. You’re talking to a bot that’s being guided by some muppet in a basement, can’t believe so many here have fallen for it.
Posted by: random lurker | Jun 16 2025 6:04 utc | 749
I started my computer career in the time of cards, paper tape with Telex machines and solid core memory. I know a bit about the capabilities of computers and find your comment to be more likely a LLM creation than Peter’s textual white noise, old and new.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 16 2025 6:12 utc | 707
I wonder if the tourist office is still open
https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/visitors-to-israel-have-new-stop-on-their-tours-hamas-destruction-site-124062400218_1.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/comments/1fp3ztp/israelis_are_offering_boat_tours_in_israel_to/
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 16 2025 6:12 utc | 708
Lazarus issue could be resolved if Peter provides Karl via offline (substack) his street address.
Karl can then be verified via the Australian Electoral Commission website
Karl could also check the Victorian BDM website for a Peter Watson of such locality.
– but that wouldn’t be as much fun as a identity mystery,….
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 6:16 utc | 709
Back to the thread subject
from Al Manar
09:09 Iranian Ministry of Health: 224 martyrs and more than 1,000 have been injured since the beginning of the Israeli aggression on the Islamic Republic of Iran, during the past 65 hours
08:50 Iranian TV: Air defense shot down US-made MQ9 drone in Ilam, western Iran
So Iran is shooting down the Reapers like Yemen, maybe better, we will see. What other aerial acquired information will be used?
What are Occupied Palestine deaths and injuries?
signing off for day
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 16 2025 6:20 utc | 710
– but that wouldn’t be as much fun as a identity mystery,….
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 6:16 utc | 757
It is so long since I have laughed, but reading this white noise thread… Having arisen from the dead, there is simple solution to the dilemma. One person on this site has asked a question only that person and myself would know the answer to.
A simple matter of asking that person.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 6:32 utc | 711
Context 1:
Wondering if anyone else but me sees “Arch Bungle” posts as sort of the equivalent of ye olde “Shadowbanned” posts? Always arguing for maximum death and destruction and revenge and brutality.
Posted by: Thatguy2 | Jun 16 2025 2:34 utc | 548
Context 2:
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 3:08 utc | 588
You do suck up a little too much to the Most-Favored-Posters here. You lambast them correctly in a good moment, but then you back down and apologize to them.
Posted by: Thatguy2 | Jun 16 2025 3:31 utc | 608
Context 3:
Posted by: Thatguy2 | Jun 16 2025 3:31 utc | 608
I’ve been around here a LONG time. And yes, I have lambasted LD numerous times, but finally realized that it only tends to make him post more off-topic lectures, which clog up threads. You can always ignore them. Get real though, “sucking up”? C’mon – to whom? There isn’t anyone here I won’t bite back if I feel like it’s worth the time or won’t screw up a thread too badly. Anyway, chill man. You’re not going to succeed in changing anyone’s minds about LD (or anyone else) that haven’t already been made up. And I suspect that numerous people agree with you, but know it’s a waste of time to keep pointing out grudges and complaints.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 3:39 utc | 611
Context 4:
Many Trump anus-lickers here at MoA. Even worse than Zero Hedge now.
Posted by: Thatguy2 | Jun 16 2025 3:55 utc | 622
Gruff isn’t a Trump supporter or fiscal conservative tho he may be a social conservative. He just thinks that – for whatever reason – several people at this site who criticize Trump are secret, closeted neolib-Dem apologists or some shit like that. Admittedly it’s gotten a little….weird lately. I’m still taking stock. Frankly he is probably right about a few, but like I said – it’s gotten very weird.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 4:05 utc | 633
What this poster Thatguy2 is doing is charmingly ironic. This poster is egging on two bar regulars into fighting each other. Does this situation remind anyone of anything?
“Russia and China aren’t doing enough™ to help Iran and are secretly aligned with the West! Time to topple Russia and China!”
You’ll see variations of the sentiment expressed above flooding the bar in the past couple of days. But now that Thatguy2 is asking Tom_Q_Collins to take Arch Bungle, LoveDonbass and William Gruff to task, there is a reluctance from Tom_Q_Collins to launch an all-out war against other posters that one might harbor some sympathies for. All of a sudden, the situation is complicated, there are nuances, there are long histories, and so on and so forth.
I wonder, do these complications and nuances exist in state-to-state relations?
I do agree with Thatguy2’s assessment that Arch is pro-intervention and pro-death outside of the safe confines of America, a very typical White Man’s Burden sort of mentality. To be fair, this mentality isn’t just found in Arch. Plenty of other MoA posters have it. “You savages don’t know what’s in your best interest, let us civilize you and teach you the proper way to wage war,” these posters will lecture. I can’t find the post now, but there was a bar regular whose name escapes me arrogantly proclaiming, “Why aren’t Russia and China doing something™ to help Iran? They should know that they’d be next! The nations that aren’t willing to listen to my helpful advice have clearly doomed themselves and are not worth saving!” They speak as if any “advice” here will ever reach the ears of the respective leaderships running countries where the majorities communicate in either Russian, Farsi or Chinese, and as if these nations ever needed an MoA barfly’s “advice” or said barfly’s savior complex.
If the Americans and American wannabes have so much creative energy and farsighted vision when it comes to running a country, why not direct that energy to a much more worthwhile and achievable endeavor (as citizens at the very center of the imperial core): toppling the current American regime (Obama/Biden/Trump I don’t care) and replacing it with a truly socialist one? Oh no, that would require actual effort other than marching around and voting, and that would involve the Americans’ own skin in the game.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Jun 16 2025 6:34 utc | 712
The way this discussion devolved is why we can’t have nice things.
The most momentous event since WW2, and we’re arguing trolls and death certificates.
I get crap for posting a lot but 99% of it is on topic and usually novel.
This discussion has become embarrassing.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 6:44 utc | 713
Disagreement and warring between M of A comment makers is proportional to the magnitude of war in the real world.
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 6:52 utc | 714
Just to get this all back on track:
Hypersonic:
https://x.com/IranMilitary__/status/1934441532968346046
A promise:
https://x.com/IranMilitary__/status/1934444286189178970
https://x.com/IranMilitary__/status/1934473525823406438
Posted by: Sir Reginald | Jun 16 2025 6:58 utc | 715
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1934490506450378968
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
Israel is doing a good job at censoring its citizens & the majority of Satellite imagery providers worldwide.
What would they do without treachery & lies ?
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1934354994779856913
Tiberius @ecomarxi
It’s important to remember that the world is hurtling towards WWIII because the West decided Israel should be allowed to commit a Palestinian Holocaust and then mobilised all of their might to supply and enable it. Those same nations urging restraint now is pure pantomime.
https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1934099967926247798
Glenn Diesen @Glenn_Diesen
Iran’s retaliatory strikes are more powerful than expected
– Why is there a tendency in the West to underestimate opponents? Iran’s “regime” would collapse, Russia could easily be defeated and their economy is weak, China cannot innovate, etc.
– These assumptions are not the result of informed debate. We are not allowed to dissent as recognising the strength of opponents is denounced as being “pro-Iran”, “pro-Russia” or “pro-China”.
– Bad analysis results in bad policies. What kind of policies do we get when it is not permitted to discuss the security concerns of opponents, not allowed to have an honest discussion about their strength, not allowed to speak with our opponents etc. Our culture of censorship and cancellation has made us blind, deaf and dumb.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 7:03 utc | 716
China is today what the USA was in WW2, the military industrial powerhouse, those who had the USA on their side won WW2. China is far away from the conflicts and pretty much safe from attack on its industrial facilities, unless the USA wants to lose its Pacific fleet or get nuked. Those who have China on their side will win WW3. Long and short of it.
You’d think Washington, London, Brussels, and Jerusalem would get that, but the Japanese and Germans didn’t get it.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 15 2025 19:09 utc | 192
Correct. The USA has stepped into the role of Nazi Germany, one they clearly relish and are perfectly suited for.
In fact it’s the same entity, much of Nazi Germany simply moved to the USA and continued business as usual.
This is not a trite or trivial Godwin law fact and those who think it is need to take a good look at themselves.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jun 16 2025 7:05 utc | 717
@all
1. Peter AU1 is Peter AU1
2. UWDude – cut back, comment on the topic not other people
3. Tom_Q_Collins – same
Now Larry Johnson calls it “Trump’s Schizophrenic Middle East Policy”. Schizophrenia is a diagnosable mental health disorder – he’s more like ERRATIC this time around with everything he does. A chaos machine never able to make up his mind or perhaps not remember what he said yesterday: what does that say?
https://sonar21.com/trumps-schizophrenic-middle-east-policy-facilitating-disaster/
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 7:13 utc | 719
Indivisible security. No country is safe if the other (neighbour, adversary, ennemy) is not safe. That’s the key point promoted by Russia to solve the NATOxic crisis in Eastern Europe.
Rules and guidelines followed by all can bring security for all, and make the 2-5% of GDP currently used for “defense” to be used in improving citizens’ life quality (education, good jobs, health etc).
Changes in warfare (mini-drones from containers) means the usual thalassocratic scumbags are not protected by oceans and distance anymore. A swarm of drones spraying red paint on the City of London or Martha Vineyards/Aspen would be a good warning shot.
Posted by: Asian Frog | Jun 16 2025 7:14 utc | 720
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jun 16 2025 7:05 utc | 721
There also seems to be a lack of understanding about China’s historical connections with Iran and current oil interests in the country too. It will not sit back and be a silent player if things heat up, not like it was with Ukraine.
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 7:19 utc | 721
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 6:16 utc | 712
Just clarifying ; Births Death and Marriages in Victoria needs proof of You being Kin , or written permission of the next of kin , for a non-kin person to gain access to a death certificate that is less than 30 years old.
However, checking a given address with the electoral commission does sound like a good idea.
Note, Victoria is toying with privatising the BDM ; so you watch the explosion in ID fraud from now on. Pity I wasn’t born a conman… I’d be living in high cotton or whatever the Americans say.
Posted by: Mustee | Jun 16 2025 7:22 utc | 722
🇺🇸🚨 At least 25 air tankers en route to Europe/Middle East from the U.S. right now
A major military airlift appears to now be underway, as an unprecedented number of U.S. Air Force KC-135 and KC-46 Aerial-Refueling Tankers have departed from airbases across the United States and appear to be preparing to cross the Atlantic towards Europe.
📝 Carolina Lion – “Number of aircraft keeps climbing. It looks like we are going to war. Only one place you would need that many flying gas stations right now.”
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 16 2025 7:22 utc | 723
George | Jun 16 2025 7:19 utc | 726
Persia was the middle man on the ancient silk road that stretched from Beijing to Rome.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 7:24 utc | 725
Crikey PeterAU1, I owe you an apology. Your calmer, more serene persona threw me off.
Sorry to hear about all your troubles and am blown over by your resurrection.
Posted by: Suresh | Jun 16 2025 7:25 utc | 726
Seems like Ukraine and Russia are no longer on anyone’s radars.
Poor Elensky and Putin. No more drama.
I don’t even indulge myself anymore with any related news, since its literally a never ending ‘ground hog day’ moments, where Ukraine (nato) does A, Russia responds in B, flip flop, it never goes any further in terms of real progress of seeing an end to the war. Amnesia sets in, what exactly started the whole nonsense… Oh yes Nato expansion, right.
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 16 2025 7:36 utc | 727
🇺🇸🚨 At least 25 air tankers en route to Europe/Middle East from the U.S. right now
A major military airlift appears to now be underway, as an unprecedented number of U.S. Air Force KC-135 and KC-46 Aerial-Refueling Tankers have departed from airbases across the United States and appear to be preparing to cross the Atlantic towards Europe.
📝 Carolina Lion – “Number of aircraft keeps climbing. It looks like we are going to war. Only one place you would need that many flying gas stations right now.”
Posted by: CrazyCanuck | Jun 16 2025 7:22 utc | 730
for a terrorist-nation that is allegedly not involved, they sure seem to have their planes and whatnot always ready handy for the genocide-nation.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 16 2025 7:41 utc | 728
Suresh | Jun 16 2025 7:25 utc | 734
With the surprise attack on Iran, a number of user names laid the boot in when they thought Iran was down.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 7:42 utc | 729
https://www.yenisafak.com/en/news/turkish-president-erdogan-iraqi-premier-sudani-discuss-israel-iran-conflict-3703500
Erdogan is a major pig. So advising Iraq which is basically a border nation to Iran and ally to stay out of the fight against Iran. I wonder if he is doing the same thing to those major western powers backing Israel.
Why is this guy still taken seriously anywhere?!
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 16 2025 7:45 utc | 730
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151826
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 7:23 utc | 731
worth repeating, see the video; here’s the text at the link:
⚔️🇮🇱 Epic footage: Airline passengers over Saudi Arabia captured the launch of ballistic missiles from Iran heading toward Israel.
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https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1934426798315474969
Craig Murray @CraigMurrayOrg
I heard this evening from an Iranian friend in Paris, a long term opponent of the Iranian government, whose two sons are returning to Iran with his blessing to volunteer to defend their country.
https://x.com/Aboujahjah/status/1934203861440282720
Dyab Abou Jahjah @Aboujahjah
Two days ago, Israel assassinated nine Iranian scientists — university professors and researchers — in targeted airstrikes. Some of them were killed together with their families. Western media is acting as if this is an act of war.
Yet, this is a war crime, here’s why. 🧵 1/
2/ Under international law, these scientists are civilians. A university professor does not lose civilian status simply because their expertise may have military applications.
3/ Unless they are active members of the armed forces or directly participating in hostilities at the time, scientists are protected under the Geneva Conventions.
3/ This principle exists to safeguard academics, engineers, and researchers everywhere from becoming expendable targets in geopolitical conflicts.
https://x.com/Aboujahjah/status/1934205442911269257
4/ Not just in Iran, Palestinian scholars, engineers and even doctors in Gaza have repeatedly been assassinated or killed in airstrikes on universities and research centers.
In various countries, experts in nuclear and missile research were also assassinated by Israel.
5/ Yet, where is the indignation of the global academic community? Where are the statements from universities, scientific associations, human rights defenders, and those who claim to defend academic freedom?
6/ One must ask: Would the silence be the same if another state killed nine Israeli or Western professors in their offices or laboratories?
7/ Academic freedom must not be selective. The principle of distinction under international humanitarian law must apply equally to all.
https://x.com/Aboujahjah/status/1934206981734101486
8/ The targeted killing of scholars sets a dangerous precedent that threatens civilian expertise worldwide, irrespective of nationality or political context. Again and again, Israeli criminal practices and the impunity it enjoys are a danger to all.
This impunity must end.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 7:47 utc | 731
IRGC statement:
The Aerospace Forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps announces to the dear Iranian people that moments ago, a new and decisive wave of missile attacks was launched as part of Operation “True Promise 3,” more powerful and impactful than its predecessors.
These precision strikes targeted the command and control systems of the oppressive Zionist entity, utilizing advanced operational methods supported by sophisticated intelligence and armament capabilities, enhanced by the blood of martyred leaders: Bagheri, Salami, Hajizadeh, and other aerospace heroes.
This technical superiority led to the disruption of the enemy’s multi-layered defense systems, to the extent that some of its Patriot and defensive systems targeted each other, resulting in a major breach of the Zionist defense system, despite its full support from the United States and Western countries and their provision of the latest technologies.
Today, the prophecy of the martyred leaders has been fulfilled, who repeatedly affirmed that Operation “True Promise 3” and subsequent operations would be more painful, more accurate in targeting, and greater in impact than any previous operation.
This operation has also proven the falsity of Zionist and American enemy assessments, and clearly demonstrated the depth of intelligence and strategic failure in their calculations regarding the Islamic Republic. Today, we are witnessing the beginning of the collapse of the Zionist occupation entity.
We direct a clear message to the supporters of this criminal entity: precise and effective strikes will continue relentlessly until the elimination and complete disappearance of this artificial entity.
🔹@enemywatch
Posted by: JB | Jun 16 2025 7:59 utc | 732
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 1:48 utc | 505
The Gulf oligarchies will collapse from within once the American bases that prop them up become hollowed out.
Wrong.
These monarchies stability stem from wise policies oriented to national development taken in the 70s-80s.
As a result people of Gulf monarchies are very happy with their governments.
These governments have insidiously \sarc shared national wealth with their populations, creating a large midddle class in just 4-5 decades and excellent infrastructure across their nations. Very much like China.
These evil monarchies \sarc have governed over exponential growth in population size and economic output since King Fahd in Saudi Arabia.
Check the publicly available data on GDP, fertility rates, etc.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 8:05 utc | 733
As a result people of Gulf monarchies are very happy with their governments.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 8:05 utc | 741
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They will become less happy as their ability to maintain their servants diminishes.
The whole of their society is carried on the backs of underpaid help.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 8:08 utc | 734
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 7:24 utc | 732
Exactly. It’s a very long historical relationship
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 8:09 utc | 735
Hypersonic:
https://x.com/IranMilitary__/status/1934441532968346046
Posted by: Sir Reginald
The frightened voice of the little child at the end of the clip… :/
War is shit.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 8:17 utc | 736
I knew Iran had it in them, they havent even used the best stuff yet and the artificial entity is squealing like a little piggy.
I wonder the 3D chess behind their attack on Iran… stupidity, desperation or maybe they really delusional in their superiority.
Sucker punching a country with 10 times more millions of people and with such a strategic depth… friends of even bigger and tougher guys.
Loving my Persian dates this morning, so juicy. Salutations to my free Iranian friends.
Posted by: Jzo | Jun 16 2025 8:18 utc | 737
Posted by: james | Jun 16 2025 4:10 utc | 619
Way too many US Refueling Tankers flying to Europe? All I see are American Passenger pigeons…once darkened the skies but are now no more.
Posted by: Mustee | Jun 16 2025 8:22 utc | 738
Point taken I just wish Peter and Karl had addressed this directly. It was stated last year by the latter that the former had passed away including on Substack. could easily have been nipped in the bud. Glad Peter is OK!
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 8:27 utc | 739
All I see are American Passenger pigeons
Posted by: Mustee | Jun 16 2025 8:22 utc | 741
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If its Boeing I ain’t going.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 8:28 utc | 740
China is today what the USA was in WW2, the military industrial powerhouse, those who had the USA on their side won WW2. China is far away from the conflicts and pretty much safe from attack on its industrial facilities, unless the USA wants to lose its Pacific fleet or get nuked. Those who have China on their side will win WW3. Long and short of it.
You’d think Washington, London, Brussels, and Jerusalem would get that, but the Japanese and Germans didn’t get it.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 15 2025 19:09 utc | 192
You got it. China getting involved in third party conflicts actively now a days. From smo to Indo Pak. China also has the luxury of having Russia as ally with its fire power and absorbing lot of pressure. Think the biggest mistake west did was to take on Russia.
US not relinquishing the throne without a fight.
Two Iranian ballistics hit Haifa power plant
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20013
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 8:31 utc | 742
Well if the 20-odd USAF tankers move across the Atlantic, we’ll know that Israel are in trouble and need their big Uncle Sam. Just a couple of days ago it was going to be a hi tech cakewalk.
Could it have anything to do with the reported Chinese 747 deliveries, presumably of AD or A2A missiles?
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 8:31 utc | 743
At a UN session on the Iran conflict, as the China delegate spoke the Israeli representative disrespectfully and demonstratively took off his earphones:
https://youtu.be/Rkwg7GqAQ_A?si=-FsrgE0-Tv8vb3Qf
Interesting if this behaviour is cause or effect, or (as usual) a bit of both.
China are helping Iran with weapons, Israel and the USA (USUKIS) will in Iran have their longed-for chance for a direct war against China. And they won’t like what they get. USUKIS may have fallen into an Iran-China trap.
Just as Russia, by invading Ukraine, exposed themselves to NAZO attack on assets throughout Russia, now USUKIS and NAZO by attacking Iran have given China a coconut sty at all NAZO assets in the middle east. And the coconuts will start falling quite soon. And go on falling for quite a long time.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jun 16 2025 8:33 utc | 744
Burning power plant in Haifa
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20019
An Israeli AD battery, likely Arrow-3, misfires and destroys its own launcher in the Negev
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20028
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 8:33 utc | 745
Tehran tells Qatar & Oman it won’t negotiate until it completes retaliation.
Israel’s campaign continues after decimating Iran’s top military command.
Source: Reuters
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 8:37 utc | 746
Israeli arms makers black-walled at Paris Air Show
The Defense Ministry condemns a last-minute decision by organizers of the Paris Air Show, acting on behalf of the French government, to bar Israeli companies from displaying offensive weapons systems just one day before the exhibition opened at Le Bourget Airport.
According to the ministry, the move breaks with standard global practices and was carried out overnight after Israeli defense officials had already completed setting up their booths.
After the Defense Ministry refused to comply, organizers erected black walls isolating the Israeli pavilions from the rest of the exhibition — including those of Turkey, China, and others.
Calling the decision “outrageous and unprecedented,” the ministry accuses the French side of hiding behind “political considerations” to sideline Israeli technologies that compete with French defense industries — particularly as Israel is waging what it called a “necessary and just war” against regional threats.
“>https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-arms-makers-black-walled-at-paris-air-show/
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 8:39 utc | 747
Apollyon
You’re about 12 hours behind.
I know a 700+ post thread is probably impossible to digest… but you’re posting old stuff …
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 8:40 utc | 748
Iran joined the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and accepts IAEA inspectors. The IAEA inspectors then pass on kill lists of Iranian nuclear scientists to Israel. Israel has the bomb, exported the bomb to South Africa, and has the chutzpah to complain about others.
As part of any deal, Iran should demand Israel joins the Non-Proliferation treaty, and accepts Iranian inspectors of Israeli nuclear installations.
Posted by: Passerby | Jun 16 2025 8:40 utc | 749
Well Israel had been able to bomb tents full of women and kids with f35 and claim combat experience. The one hit from Syria was claimed a bird strike. I always said just train a heap of geese to fly about at various altitudes as the perfect anti air defence. 3 down in 2 days cut the success rate somewhat. No birds were harmed in destroying the idf invincibility narrative. At least usa cant claim friendly fire on anything anymore from ansarallah
Posted by: Hankster | Jun 16 2025 8:42 utc | 750
As part of any deal, Iran should demand
Posted by: Passerby | Jun 16 2025 8:40 utc | 752
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How about no deal and Israel ceases to exist?
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 8:42 utc | 751
https://sputnikglobe.com/20250616/irgc-claim-they-forced-israeli-air-defenses-to-attack-each-other-with-new-methods-1122258448.html
“Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), claimed that during the latest wave of missile strikes on Israel, they used “new methods” to force Israeli air defense systems to attack each other.”
Overkill, really, but yeah, go for it.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 16 2025 8:46 utc | 752
Iran just executed dozens of mossad agents 1 day after they were caught for carrying out acts of sabotage
https://nitter.poast.org/IranObserver0/status/1934498071578321327#m
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 9:04 utc | 753
As part of any deal, Iran should demand Israel joins the Non-Proliferation treaty,
Posted by: Passerby | Jun 16 2025 8:40 utc | 752
We really need to remove these White Colonial institutions that have been created from the start to ensure Western dominance over the rest of the non White world.
Stop. Enough already.
Rebuild the nuclear proliferation safety regime with the dominant controlling voice being those who don’t have nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 9:06 utc | 754
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 16 2025 8:46 utc | 755
That’s the new warfare, hacking into the enemy’s systems as I sure you know Russia is increasingly doing in Ukraine as well
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 9:10 utc | 755
Iran just executed dozens of mossad agents 1 day after they were caught for carrying out acts of sabotage
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 9:04 utc | 756
Seems a waste. I wonder if they wrung them out for intelligence first – a day seems far too little for that …
“So, what’s your favourite colour …?”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 9:12 utc | 756
If Iran or any other country can get something out of this, then it must be that North Korea has acted correctly to ensure they have nuclear deterrents. It must thus become a top priority to makes sure it happens if you don’t want your country to be Balkanized and raped by the financial elite.
Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 16 2025 9:13 utc | 757
Rebuild the nuclear proliferation safety regime with the dominant controlling voice being those who don’t have nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 9:06 utc | 757
Meditation #22:
The entire premise of nuclear non proliferation is inherently racist, classist and elitist.
The notion that some nations (decided by who?) are pariah states that should not be allowed nuclear weapons is inverse to observed reality. I’m fact the very states that should not be allowed nuclear weapons are the very ones that controls their proliferation – and proliferate them!
What remains is a world where an elite clique of nations wield nuclear weapons in order to dominate the rest.
This offers no safety to the world, just another path to extinction.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 9:18 utc | 758
IRGC statement: “…..We direct a clear message to the supporters of this criminal entity: precise and effective strikes will continue relentlessly until the elimination and complete disappearance of this artificial entity.”
🔹@enemywatch
Posted by: JB | Jun 16 2025 7:59 utc | 735
holy cows!!
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see the 15-second video at the first link. another rather amazing video
see the 20-second video at the second link
https://t.me/intelslava/76222
Intel Slava
🇮🇱Iraqis Watch Iranian Missiles Launched. Footage of Iran’s Night Attack on Israel
https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status/1934529917942661449
Warfare Analysis @warfareanalysis
Bnei Brak in Tel Aviv this morning…
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1933059291088306399
Lord Bebo @MyLordBebo
🇺🇸🇺🇦 US Defense Secretary Pete Hegsett confirmed that approximately 20,000 laser-guided 70mm APKWS rockets, originally scheduled for delivery to Ukraine, have been sent to US bases in the Middle East.
Washington attributed this decision to the “urgent need to protect US forces from Houthi drones and their Iranian allies.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 9:20 utc | 760
Antiwar destroys the Trumpist Zionist cult lies about Iranian nukes.
This is Trump’s Bush moment. His own WMDs. Anyone supporting him (and I’ll note the intellectual lightweight cowards Cullen Baker and S Brennan are hiding under rocks) is just another willfully blind cult member.
https://original.antiwar.com/David_Stockman/2025/06/15/america-first-we-hardly-knew-ye/
Trump’s already a war criminal for Soleimani but he is about to overtake Bush , Biden and Obama.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 9:25 utc | 761
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 8:08 utc | 737
The whole of their society is carried on the backs of underpaid help.
Not true either.
Their help is paid according to their help’s demand of pay.
Most managerial, engineering, medical and office clerk jobs go to local Arabs so there is not a strong dependence on ‘the help’.
GCC countries have good universities, better than most Western universities (according to rankings) and overwhelmingly oriented to STEM.
Expatriates from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Egypt, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Philippines, send large amount of remittances from Saudi Arabia, proving that their pay is sufficient for their livelihood and to sustain their families back home. Saudi Arabia is the second largest sender of remittances after the USA.
I’ve been in GCC countries on business many times. I got the distinct impression that they don’t need that much help (I often saw 5 to 10 short dark brown men in blue overalls tending to small patches of garden) but that they receive so many expatriates because they want to help fellow Muslim nations.
This vision of Gulf monarchies as evil and parasitic has been spread by Western liberals and those repeating such accusations have been fooled by Western propaganda. All to aggrandize so-called Western values vis-a-vis other cultures.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 9:39 utc | 762
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2025 4:23 utc | 631 “Atop a ballistic first stage is mounted a long-range AD missile tasked to take out tankers at a range of 3000Km.”
Interesting idea. But how would Iran get the initial targeting information for a tanker even 1,000 km away?
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 9:42 utc | 763
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 8:17 utc | 739
Poor little mite.
Wonder how the Iranian children feel frightened by Israeli attacks and on civilian apartment building whilst the facilities were asleep in their beds and/or the Palestinian children in Gaza amd the west bank feel after almost 2 years of Israeli bombardment and killing.
Posted by: anonymouse12 | Jun 16 2025 9:44 utc | 764
“Trump’s already a war criminal for Soleimani but he is about to overtake Bush , Biden and Obama.”
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins
That’s why they brought the orange pig to power: To do the dirty work.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 9:45 utc | 765
Their help is paid according to their help’s demand of pay.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 9:39 utc | 765
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The gulf monarchies maintain a regime of slavery. While they can.
https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/modern-day-slavery-in-the-united-arab-emirates
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 9:46 utc | 766
if / when the USA under de-facto president Lindsay Graham goes all in against Iran,
that will be the perfect time for
(a) China to seize Taiwan militarily and
(b) North Korea to invade the south.
(c) Russia / China to grab the Falkland Islands and hand them back to Argentina and
(d) all overseas Fourth Reich (NAZO) bases worldwide to be hypersonicked out of existence.
NAZO must be destroyed, now, for the sake of a future for the human race.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Jun 16 2025 9:46 utc | 767
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 9:39 utc | 765
What about the thousands of dead workers in the construction industry? That is as close to an apartheid system as it gets, the kafala system tying workers to employers who keep their passports is very real.
Posted by: Biochar | Jun 16 2025 9:47 utc | 768
@anonymouse12
Poor little mite, I feel as sorry for the Iranian and the Palestinian children.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 9:48 utc | 769
You are absolutely right.
Ukraine was sacrificed to study Russian hypersonic technologies & escalatory ladder. Israel is sacrificed to study Chinese hypersonic technologies & escalatory ladder. Nothing new. US is gathering intelligence about hypersonic missiles. Simple. If any vassals got hurt in the process – it is worth paying the price… China was supplying Iran with cutting edge hypersonic technologies for decades. Here is the link :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Fangwei
US is way behind on missiles… They cannot sleep well at nights. NASA is probably watching with horror in real time entire Israel destruction in 4K through turning all those satellite telescopes in orbit and zooming in…
Posted by: Alex Vadim | Jun 16 2025 9:52 utc | 770
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 9:46 utc | 769
Kaspar has always been a gulf monarchy apologist. I trust he makes huge bucks shilling for the murderous criminals as a lawyer, lobbyist or weapons merchant.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 9:52 utc | 771
According to Cynerspec new a German A400 tanker was reported over Jordan, RAF over Iraq, 21 US tankers en route to the region.
Pakistan providing nuclear defense shield to Iran, Chinese hardware delivered to Tehran.
India turns away a UK destroyer.
Iraq asks US to stop Israeli incursions.
Guess we can call this World War now, none of it declared.
Posted by: SOS | Jun 16 2025 9:54 utc | 773
the kafala system
Posted by: Biochar | Jun 16 2025 9:47 utc | 771
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This ties back to Hindutva slavers ==> https://bylinetimes.com/2022/05/06/werlemans-worldview-the-groups-promoting-hindutva-and-human-slavery-in-the-us/
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 9:55 utc | 774
Their help is paid according to their help’s demand of pay.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 9:39 utc | 765
Does that involve perks like being kept in a cage?
https://youtu.be/yrwN02hlQz8?si=x4zyxcaPh36rbwXw
“This Emirati man has been arrested after he filmed a video showing himself ‘locking up Indian workers’ in a cage over a football match”
I’ve worked for years in the gulf states myself. Emiratis and Kuwaitis are the most useless sacks of over-laundered shit I’ve ever encountered.
The Gulf oligarchies are welfare states run off oil and Indian and Philipino labour, with European brainpower at the highest levels and the Chinese doing the rest.
The day the oil runs out they’ll all vanish into the sands like a proverbial mirage of legend.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 9:56 utc | 775
I trust he makes huge bucks shilling
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 9:52 utc | 774
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Making huge bucks is easier than exercising moral judgement. In these Times morals are expensive, practically a luxury.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 9:59 utc | 776
@b721
Thanks for this clarification.
(Adding UWDzde and Tom Collings to my no reading list)
Btw great thanks to karlof1, Meleleuca, LoveDonbass an Republicofscotland and some others for your helpful comments.
Posted by: Aarsupilani | Jun 16 2025 9:59 utc | 777
“If Russia and China don’t help Iran in this war then I will never again support them.”
Posted by: David | Jun 16 2025 9:20 utc | 762
Are you aware that China has already sent a cargo plane of weapons to Iran that are most likely missiles? Iran is not Ukraine for China.
Bit early to make predictions yet Russia, it will try to use diplomacy first.
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 10:04 utc | 778
Another Cargolux 747 from China goes dark just before Iranian border.
https://www.flightradar24.com/CLX9737/3ad19812
And Qatari F15 seemingly in Iran ? I thought they were NATO-aligned? Just gone dark.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 10:05 utc | 779
An Israeli settler responds to Netanyahu and Katz in a post on X
“The Israeli army hides behind civilians in the heart of Tel Aviv, then blames the Iranians for targeting the population. To them, my children and I are just collateral damage.”
She attached a map showing the Israeli Ministry of Defense building, “Kirya,” located near civilian facilities in central Tel Aviv.
this with selfies from idf soldier retards showing themself inside schools.
same as with ukraine.
and then you have our western values politicians and media, talking about babies in incubators and so on and so forth, with nafo shills swallowing it all up like good little cheap prostitutes.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 16 2025 10:07 utc | 780
https://www.flightradar24.com/SVA9055/3ad23779
Saudi cargo Riyadh to Jordan. Then onwards to Israel?
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 10:09 utc | 781
Well .. another thread running hot – soon hit 1000 as well!
b I think the happy hour is a bit too successful…😉
Well I can’t wade through all that from Page 1 – bad enough keeping up with the joy acroos west Asia and North Africa, Sahel and even subsahara – at the taste of justice and liberation from the yoke of centuries of exploitation.
Al I can see is the shapeshifters and their GreatShit in Chief – NuttyYahoo daily getting more exposed by the decades of words and deeds.
The incantations and wishful plans to devour the Persian Jewel in the Crown of EurAsian cradles of civilisation.
The Chinese are ready. The US plane fleet is flying across the Atlantic – unlikely it will return wholly… the Russian Federation is also ready to undo the damage that Stalin inadvertently did in allowing the construction of the illegal apartheid entity.
That consolation to the fascist imperialist Bankers for having failed to destroy and take Russia and China with their proxy Hitlerites and fellow fascists. That pustule from which the deluded supremacist settler colonialists are the excuse for expansion across EurAsia and Africa. (That last is where the preparations are being made to breed a bunch of African mercenaries to raid their own ancestral lands now iin the West)
TheAnglo American Oil Giant lost their control on Persia even as they maintained it across the various fake emirates, with fake sheiks, slave breeding desert tribals elevated to fake sheiks as fronts for Zio Fascist AngloEuropean world domination.
The fake kingdoms, their mirage cities and airline hubs and limitless (so far) air conditioning – doomed to collapse like a house of cards always does – is held together by a pearl necklace of special forces, and the U.K. and US armed forces DIRECTLY. Their civil fascist dictatorships enforced by western police and mystery intelligence operatives.
Justice awaits those pirates.
Which ever way these pearls are scattered by their clutching by our Wasters – they will never be allowed to girdle the throats of that ancient human civilisations again.
That high water mark already receding is the destiny of the Shapeshifters and liberation from slavery. Physical and MENTAL.
Now the fate of how soon and how painful it will be resides with JUST two Peoples.
Turks and Subcontinentals – the oldest imperial conquests.
I’ll exclude Japan – purely out of its demographics- I doubt it can muster a million man foots on the ground delusional fascists any more.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 16 2025 10:13 utc | 782
Is someone playing with GPS/transponder signals? Keep seeing Qatari planes (including an F15) around Assaluyeh Persian Gulf Airport.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 10:14 utc | 783
China didn’t send missile … they send sigint and computers. Noted how the entity’s agents in Iran are now hunted down ?
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 16 2025 10:17 utc | 785
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 9:46 utc | 769
Lol! Do you work for this “Human Rights Research” organization that you are quoting?
It is a typical Western NGO controlled by Western governments and liberal oligarchs.
They promote sexual degeneracy and the replacement of Western working classes with cheaper working classes from the Global South, among other deviant policies.
And they have a long list of articles demonstrating the Russia is EVIL and Ukraine is saintly.
I know what I’m writing about.
I know GCC countries very close.
You’ve fallen for Western liberal propaganda.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 10:25 utc | 786
Posted by: Biochar | Jun 16 2025 9:47 utc | 771
What about the thousands of dead workers in the construction industry? That is as close to an apartheid system as it gets, the kafala system tying workers to employers who keep their passports is very real.
Yes, there are thousand worker dead per year in the construction industry of all countries.
So what’s your point?
It’s incredible how my fellow Westerners pass self-righteous judgement from their pulpits knowing so little about the world.
Pure racism, xenophobia and ignorance.
There is no apartheid system in GCC countries. The only apartheid state in existence is Israel. The imported warking class people into GCC countries are thankful for having the chance to support their families.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 10:32 utc | 787
I’ve worked for years in the gulf states myself. Emiratis and Kuwaitis are the most useless sacks of over-laundered shit I’ve ever encountered.
The Gulf oligarchies are welfare states run off oil and Indian and Philipino labour, with European brainpower at the highest levels and the Chinese doing the rest.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 9:56 utc | 778
Not only Indian and Philipino labour but African, Bungaladesh and Sri Lankan labour as well. The “Kafala” system was anything but the arabic translation of, “to take care of”. Countless numbers committed suicide by throwing themselves off highrise balconies because they were abused by both the “master” and the “mistress”; refused days off, starved of food and deprived of water, physically abused, and were refused their passports back by their “kafeels” (sponsors) to return home.
I share your view that anyone that takes avantage of deperate domestic workers are sacks of over-laundered shit.
Posted by: Menz | Jun 16 2025 10:34 utc | 788
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 9:56 utc | 778
I’ve worked for years in the gulf states myself. Emiratis and Kuwaitis are the most useless sacks of over-laundered shit I’ve ever encountered.
Very thankfull of you to speak in that manner of the people that sustained the business that paid you for whatever you did for them. But that’s just anecdotical. I invite everyone to check independent data on GDP growth, income distribution, fertility rates, remittances flows, State contributions to students, funding of medical costs, macro data, not anectodical accounts.
The day the oil runs out they’ll all vanish into the sands like a proverbial mirage of legend.
This could be a description of your desires. As a matter of fact, the UAE is already well past dependence on oil and the Saudies are working on that, slowly as they use to do everything, but surely.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 10:43 utc | 789
10,000 migrant only construction workers die per year in the relatively low populated GC monarchies. The entire USA has less than 2,000 total construction deaths per year most annum dating back to the 2000 time frame.
Don’t worry, though. Trump is trying to gut OSHA and I’m sure they’ll double over the next half decade and make the Gulf Coast Monarchies look closer to normal for “first world” countries.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:44 utc | 790
Most or at least more than half of the Southeast Asian only construction related deaths in the GCC are unexplained and covered by zero insurance policies.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:46 utc | 791
The notion that a tiny Israel could defeat a large and technologically advanced nation 800 miles away is ridiculous…Colonel MacGregor points out that basically Iran has already won…https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1934083238630154312
Does anyone actually believe that with Russia and China as allies, either of which could squash Israel like a bug, Iran could be defeated?
Posted by: pyrrhus | Jun 15 2025 21:35 utc | 346
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Doesn’t it look like Israel knows this but its larger plan is to draw the US in?
Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 16 2025 11:47 utc | 792
Ritter is a TERRIBLE source for info. Has been since early on in the Uke war. Most of the time he’s just talking out his ass. It escapes me why people still look to him for info.
Posted by: Michigan Dude | Jun 16 2025 0:11 utc | 423
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I’ve found that although he expresses himself quite forcefully, he’s wrong as often (more?) as he’s right.
Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 16 2025 12:14 utc | 793
Have to agree with Alastair Crooke: Iran has changed its’ strategy and is aiming to de-militarize Israel, and by doing so it would be doing the whole world a favor
Posted by: zeke2u | Jun 16 2025 12:29 utc | 794
https://sputnikglobe.com/20250616/irgc-claim-they-forced-israeli-air-defenses-to-attack-each-other-with-new-methods-1122258448.html
“Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), claimed that during the latest wave of missile strikes on Israel, they used “new methods” to force Israeli air defense systems to attack each other.”
Overkill, really, but yeah, go for it.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 16 2025 8:46 utc | 755
That’s the new warfare, hacking into the enemy’s systems as I sure you know Russia is increasingly doing in Ukraine as well
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 9:10 utc | 758
I’m surprised there’s people who actually believe this without thought.
It’s Iranian propaganda claiming credit for Israeli fuck ups.
Almost all known air defence systems are siloed and are not internet connected, it’s not hackable.
Between the bogus claims of F35s shot down, AI pics, and now this, IR media is just as bad as the Indians.
Posted by: V | Jun 16 2025 13:29 utc | 795
China didn’t send missile … they send sigint and computers. Noted how the entity’s agents in Iran are now hunted down ?
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 16 2025 10:17 utc | 788
That sounds VERY Chinese!
(More than one way to skin a cat)
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 16 2025 13:47 utc | 796
Shit, David isn’t gonna support Russia or China any longer? Fuck, throwing down the gauntlet, those countries will really need to think twice.
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 16 2025 14:54 utc | 798
Um, hey guys the construction industry has many immigrants here who are essentially enslaved in a dangerous field of work. Workers here sure don’t have insurance, immigrants often get stiffed, robbed, exploited. I’ve had my own landscaping business for 40 years, I know more about immigration than you, Dallas is pretty tied in to all that. I visit the border often, know the terrain we’ll, know many of those immigrants… Construction and blue collar work is more dangerous per capita than police work, or even military service or fire fighters, yet they get no public or other benefits typically (particularly in Texas
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 16 2025 15:18 utc | 799
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 16 2025 15:18 utc | 802
Easily solved problem.
They can get the f@@@ out.
Posted by: Deport them all! | Jun 16 2025 18:36 utc | 800