antiwar.com says US will attack Iran, possibly as soon as MONDAY.
“Sources: US Will Enter Israel’s War With Iran
Call the White House and tell them you do not want any part of this disastrous war
by Dave DeCamp | Jun 15, 2025
Sources familiar with the matter have told Antiwar.com Editorial Director Scott Horton that the Trump administration is poised to enter Israel’s aggressive war against Iran directly. US airstrikes on Iran could begin as soon as Monday.
Please contact the White House by calling (202-456-7041) or sending an email. Tell them that you do not want the US to enter this disastrous war, which could lead to heavy American casualties at US bases across the Middle East.”
https://news.antiwar.com/2025/06/15/sources-us-will-enter-israels-war-with-iran/

Posted by: metamars | Jun 15 2025 17:09 utc | 103

‘I feel I understand the periods before WW1 and 2 much better now.’
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 15 2025 16:48 utc | 92
US Civil War too … many fervent partisans on both sides thought it would be over in a matter of weeks.
“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.” — Charles Mackay

Posted by: Jim H | Jun 15 2025 17:12 utc | 105

Targeted assassinations of Military leaders, attempted assassinations of Khomeini and Putin, car bombs, killing entire families just to take out their targets. Quite simply Israel (and the UkroZionists) are nothing other than terrorist states – yet the west lines up to back the Zionists.
Bibi the coward hiding out in Greece (or his bunker) since Friday and only showing up today. A bunch of sockpuppets crying on social media over casualties that perhaps do not even enter into the 100s whilst Gaza is a literal moonscape with 50k+ dead.
I truly pray for the day that the rest of the world turns it’s back on the Western world and leaves it to stew in it’s own putrid pot of neverending Ponzi, MIC debt.
I truly pray that the rest of the world survives their latest escalation.
I truly pray that the Islamic world wake up and unite together with Africa and Asia to show the west just how I significant they are destined to become.
1.4 Billion Indians, 1.4 Billion Chinese and 2 Billion followers of Islam. All held in check by the the Western Alliance who number around 1 Billion.

Posted by: Al Dossary | Jun 15 2025 17:14 utc | 107

@Kadath and Rahul:
F35 has max-range of 2800 KM – more if fitted with external fuel tanks. A few questions come to mind:
a. If Iran’s 2400KM from the Indian airport the F35 landed at, it couldn’t have originated on the west or south of Iran. It must have originated from the east or north
b. Is India hosting F35s for UK?
c. The plane couldn’t have been shooting down Iranian-issue missiles; the missiles were all going northwest, and the F35 (given the plane’s range) must have been operating near the south-east quadrant of Iran
So that seems to suggest the F35 was bombing Iran, and that F35 likely originated from a carrier or a land-mass to the east of Iran. If it originated from a carrier, why didn’t it return to that carrier? Going to land costs more fuel.
Did I get that logic right?

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 15 2025 17:17 utc | 109

I find Scott Ritter tends to advocacy rather than analysis, and do not listen to him in the early days as too much psyops. That said, he is smart enough to say might (I listened that far on the Judge). Those misquoting him are (probably paid) trolls.

Posted by: ISL | Jun 15 2025 17:20 utc | 111

As I suggested last night here and on Simplicius’s thread, logistics capability will be the deciding factor, the most important being the number of Iranian missiles to Zionist interceptors. A Sputnik item says Iran has yet to use its more advanced missiles, those with more powerful warheads and evasive abilities. Then there’re the Zionists hanger queens that some suggest are flying out of Cyprus–was Cyprus prepped with ammo and fuel beforehand? And then there’s the very long logistics train from North America to West Asia whether by ship or air. And if Zionist airbases are unusable and the ports rendered inoperable, just where will critical supplies enter? And then we have the issue of food and water. Much food is imported and most water comes from desalination plants that are prime targets. And then we have the issue of power to move water and sewage along with powering refrigeration. Were millions of MREs stocked for this event? The issue of civilian targets within Occupied Palestine: Since almost all adults are in the military, then there are very few “civilians”–mostly the young.
Compiling a “box score” with all the censorship is very difficult. How many attack waves from Iran and how many sorties by Zionists? What’s the actual level of NATO involvement? What’re the number of aircraft losses? What’s the condition of Iranian AD? Iran is such an expansive nation versus the compactness of Occupied Palestine, Iran has the advantage when it comes to targeting. What’s the real story with terrorist groups operating within Iran? What roles are the Turkic nations playing if any? And I’m sure there are many other Qs that ought to be asked. For now, however, Fog rules the situation.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 15 2025 17:24 utc | 113

arise ( questions). Sorry

Posted by: stranger | Jun 15 2025 17:25 utc | 115

🇮🇱 Netanyahu: Israel attacked Iran because Ayatollah Khamenei was planning another Holocaust against the Jewish people.

isnt iran the second largest nation in the middle east in terms of jewish population?
what the fuck is this idiot rambling about? the eternal victim.
the only ones commiting a holocaust are the zionists in israel, and their lackeys usa/uk/eu.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 15 2025 17:26 utc | 117

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 15 2025 17:17 utc | 109
Seems to have been operating off the HMS Prince of Wales
https://x.com/IAF_MCC/status/1934285952064860206

Posted by: Rahul | Jun 15 2025 17:33 utc | 119

I previously posted that Iran’s lack of resolve in adequate usage of its strategic allies Hzb, Syria and Hamas led to their neutering and downfall, the conseuqences of which are for all to see now, as Tehran and the rest of the country burn under Israeli air force attacks.
I drew a parallel to this indecision and fecklessness vis a vis Iran to both Russia and China, as Iran is to them what the resistance in the Levant was to Iran. If Iran falls, they no tonly lose an ally, but they gain another enemy on their front door.
It seems Helmer is bemoaning and attributing a similar lack of strategic foresight and reactive wishful tihnking to the Kremlin, though i must admit the subtelty and indirect nature of his wording does leave one wondering as to the precise meaning of his post. Perhaps living in Moscow does have a hermetic effect on one’s communication style when it comes to critcism of the country’s leadership, leaving readers to draw thier own conclusions at times. An interesting post for the these interesting times:
https://johnhelmer.org/how-to-say-in-russian-happy-birthday-donald-happy-us-army-and-flag-day/

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 15 2025 17:36 utc | 121

Ornot@82…..I think we all should be concerned. Brian B invoked the N word at the end of his pod cast yesterday/day before perhaps….disconcerting to say the least when the Apartheid State’s Mass murderers have access to such beautiful weapons….
…..was thinking if the Resistance had really resisted last year, would we be here today…….
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 15 2025 17:38 utc | 123

Here’s a theory I haven’t heard. Alex Krainer is talking with Glenn Diesen. Alex speculates that the behavior from the Trump admin is so perplexing, ridiculous and nonsensical that something else is going on. Is the loudmouthed new yorker actually double-crossing…the beloved ones? It sounds hard to believe but if it turns out to be true…I nominate him as King.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASUeEhYLscg

Posted by: chunga | Jun 15 2025 17:40 utc | 125

Posted by: metamars | Jun 15 2025 17:28 utc | 118
First, we need to build an anti war party that opposes the Dem imperialist party in the way you oppose Trump.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 15 2025 17:44 utc | 127

Tom Pfotzer@109…..inflight emergency…..likely shrapnel….
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 15 2025 17:44 utc | 129

More pieces coming into play, I expect Azerbaijan to be the next in line for treachery, Sunni Iraq too:

The Kurdish-Iranian rebel group PAK (Kurdistan Freedom Party) has voiced it’s support for the Israeli strikes and calls to take advantage of the weakening of the Iranian regime by launching a popular uprising across Iranian Kurdistan
The group declares its readiness to help Israeli intelligence to attack and combat the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) across the Kurdish areas
“>https://t.me/weebunionwar/27359

Same mechanism is at work in West Asia as for the EU and especially the ex-Warsaw pact countries, in Europe everyone got in line for the promised choice cuts when the emperor carves up the Russian carcass, delegates the management of Russian resources, markets, central asian and arctic trade routes to the barking vassals hounds, in West Asia the hounds are lining up for the feast when the emperor carves up the Iranian carcass. Shared history, shared religion, shared culture, family relations all go out the window when the dogs see prey and smell blood, at least among the gentries of the world, that’s the bond that unites Europe with Ukraine, and KSA, the Gulf States, Egypt, North Africa, Central Asia, India etc with Israel, they are all in line for the spoils. That answers all the questions over the passivity, even before a stark genocide, of all the seemingly disinvolved and collaborationist states.
But, something to keep in mind:

If someone thinks that drone strikes and leaking sewage in Tehran are “the apocalypse has arrived” and “the Iranians are on the brink”, let them at least read about the Iran-Iraq conflict to broaden their horizons. About 8 years of war and its colossal millions of victims with chemical attacks and endless bombing of cities.
And then they will look a little differently at the patience of the Persians and what they are capable of enduring in the fight against a much more ferocious and powerful enemy than the current one.
Even Saddam Hussein, with the support of the USA and the USSR, could not hold out against Iran for long.
“>https://t.me/vicktop55/34469

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 15 2025 17:49 utc | 131

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131316

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 15 2025 17:51 utc | 133

This looks a lot like a gravity or glide bomb to me.
It allegedly just landed in Tehran today:
https://t.me/myLordBebo/69950
This means IDF planes are lfying up high in the sky over the middle of Iran.
How is this happening in Iran, and not ever happened in Ukraine, when all we hear about is how awesome Iranian and Russian AD is, and how terrible that of NATO and Israel is?

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 15 2025 17:58 utc | 135

Belt & Road Initiative (BRI)
■ The railway to Iran | Interactive |
https://multimedia.scmp.com/news/china/article/One-Belt-One-Road/iran.html
Schedule passenger and freight trains China to Iran BRI railway
■ US sanctions on China refiners over Iran oil disrupt operations, sources say | Reuters – 9 May 2025 |
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-sanctions-china-refiners-over-iran-oil-disrupt-operations-sources-say-2025-05-08/
■ China and Iran’s New Strategic Railway Officially Launches | This Shatters America’s Oil Sanctions! – a week ago!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlUbxWj8-VA
■ Iran Intercepts British Destroyer as UK Deploys Jets to West Asia Amid Escalating Tensions
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/iranian-navy-intercepts-british-destroyer-in-indian-ocean-assisting-israeli-missile-targeting-irna/3598737
Perhaps the large Iranian Port explosion was not coincidental!!
UKRAINE WAR MORPHES INTO ATTACK ON IRAN
Targeting Iran to sanction Russia and China … same actors, same war against BRICS

Posted by: Oui | Jun 15 2025 18:01 utc | 137

@aristodemos | Jun 15 2025. Thanks; your compliment is well-appreciated.
I will indeed check out David Attenborough’s podcast. Ya know, he’s not one I would have expected to address geo-politics; I thought the natural world was his zone. I’m into it 2 mins … looks like it’s going to be really good. Tks for bringing it to my attn.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 15 2025 18:05 utc | 139

Al Dossary @1714
Some good insights. However your demographics relating to the Collective Wa$te requires some reassessments. That Billion plus of wage-slaves are mostly not any longer attuned to fake media and alleged “authorities”. The actual control matrix is shedding faster than some idiot who took four MRNA jabs.
Working stiffs and a significant proportion of the three younger generations are warily and wearingly awakening. Many are no longer buying the bullshit pooped out by the well-coifed “presenters” on main$cream mass media.
“The Center cannot hold…”Mere anarchy” ensues. However that phenomenon will not maintain, as the harried and harassed laboring wage-slaves far outnumber the college miseducated mind-controlled protesting in the misled cause idiots.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 15 2025 18:14 utc | 141

Will King Trump redo the White House exterior in pink Portuguese marble?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 15 2025 18:18 utc | 143

You have been conned, Russias AD can’t shot down F35 planes, that’s been proven again and again. Russia knows this and thats the reason they act as they do both in Ukraine and elsewhere. They are afraid what should happen if NATO enter the war, they would pulverize Russia in a couple of weeks.
Posted by: Rageman | Jun 15 2025 18:11 utc | 140
LMAO. Absolutely f*cking clueless.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 15 2025 18:21 utc | 145

karlof1@1724 June 15
Cyprus: This will be the third time on these threads where I have pointed to that obvious target…a huge military base, long held by Perfidious Albion as its central forward operational base. Chances are that the Iranian commandatura has been reviewing and contemplating options for a few of their most unstoppable and powerful hypersonics to utterly eliminate that eastern Mediterranean butt pimple.
Backup base on Cyprus goes down and the force extension system for the Collective Wa$te should be erased for many days and probably weeks. The supporting maritime port might also be targeted. The Turks may drool over that scenario…like the hyenas Erdogan’s clan happen to be.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 15 2025 18:25 utc | 147

We’ll see. It’s not wise to take e.g Andrei Martyanov’s claims as anything close to the truth. He is as biased as the worst ‘FAFO’ ideologues out there. He lacks any real analytical skills and only focuses on statistics about certain weapon systems, which are of limited use when analyzing outcomes.

Posted by: Rageman | Jun 15 2025 18:30 utc | 149

So Scott Ritter is a buffoon. I just saw his interview on Jimmy Dore. Fucking clown.

Posted by: Timurid | Jun 15 2025 18:31 utc | 151

Check out You Tube for an utterly amazing analysis on MB by David Attenborough.
Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 15 2025 17:40 utc | 126
I’m pretty sure that Youtube is a fake. New channel, no video, just a still photo, and a rampant pro-Israel interpretation, no doubt with AI voice. I don’t think Attenborough would risk his reputation like that.

Posted by: laguerre | Jun 15 2025 18:33 utc | 153

RE: “Iran strikes Rafael weapons factory, sources say”
“No further details have been disclosed regarding the extent of the damage or the factory’s specific location”
DOHA, June 15. /TASS/. “Iran has reportedly targeted a weapons facility operated by the Israeli company Rafael, according to the Iranian agency Tasnim, which cited Hebrew-language sources.”
“No further details have been disclosed regarding the extent of the damage or the factory’s specific location”
That should at least be helpful for Gaza & Lebanon.
Not sure by “weapons” means ammo or missiles. But, good news.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 15 2025 18:34 utc | 155

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 15 2025 16:56 utc | 96 “No Kings is clearly astroturf.”
Disagree. There have been small, unorganized, but widespread local protests in the US for a few months. They have been almost like a social outing. This event seems an outgrowth of those. Things will likely fall back to smaller protests for a while. People who attend are generally looking to the 2026 elections to made dent in Trump’s power in Congress. Possibly take the House back, Senate is tougher.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 15 2025 18:36 utc | 157

Why is Canada’s publicly funded national broadcaster CBC News giving a platform to the genocidal war criminal John Bolton?
https://x.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1933556813259300977
To promote his views obviously. (See below)
Excerpts From Amb John Bolton’s Speech at the Free Iran Gathering (MEK?}, 1 July, 2017, Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTMh24qlyQA
“So for the first time in the 8 years I’ve been coming to this event, I can say that we have a President of the United States who is completely and totally opposed to the regime in Tehran. This is the feeling of the president and he’s made it very clear…the declared policy of the United States of America should be the overthrow of the Mullahs’ regime in Tehran…”
Meanwhile back in our own settler-state, Bilderberg Prime Minister and G7 host, Mark ‘Goldman-Sachs’ Carney’s corporate coup-regime Canada, including CBC [Cowardice, BS & Complicity] continues to support USrael’s genocide, and NATO’s imperialist war on Iran/Russia/China.
Here is the little Champagne Bilderberger & finance minister taking care of business at the arms-merchants. Murder inc. Robbing us blind. Our tax dollars hard at dirty work Canucklheads. Wars within and without. Surest way to lose the class war is not to know you’re in one. Resist don’t collaborate.
Francois-Philippe Champagne
https://x.com/FP_Champagne/status/1933342179340267992
“For over 30 years, Saab has helped protect Canadians with cutting edge defence tech. Great to see their latest innovations up close – thank you to CEO Michael Johansson and the whole team for the tour.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 15 2025 18:38 utc | 159

It’s not wise to take e.g Andrei Martyanov’s claims as anything close to the truth. He is as biased as the worst ‘FAFO’ ideologues out there. He lacks any real analytical skills and only focuses on statistics about certain weapon systems, which are of limited use when analyzing outcomes.

Posted by: Rageman | Jun 15 2025 18:30 utc | 149
Here’s an idea, why don’t you go to Andrei’s site and tell him yourself, rather than skulking away in a cowardly manner; you can find it here: https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 15 2025 18:39 utc | 161

IRGC High Command: “We have enough missile to keep this pace of launches for another 6 months”
“>https://t.me/EurasianChoice/49264

It would be a pitiful Baghdad Bob bluff if it weren’t true; I think it’s true.
I also think Iran has nukes, I’ve said it before, there is no point spending 30ys and untold money building a formidable missile system, without a nuclear backstop, if your enemy can at some point of stalemate, anger, and frustration send a curt missive saying, “One more missile launched at us and we nuke you. Full stop.”

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 15 2025 18:39 utc | 163

Rageman@1811: Looks as if the scars, both external and subconscious, are acting up, longterm resultant from your Bris. Was it a Bris Millah, or a mere hospital doctor op?

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 15 2025 18:42 utc | 165

Yesterday I asked, why Iran is not attacking (or maybe not successfully enough) the air force bases of Israel. Some answers were like “it’s very difficult to take out an air force base”.
On the other hand Israel is doing that. From Intel Slava Telegram:
“At Iran’s Tabriz airbase, the Israeli Air Force has selectively disabled taxiways leading to the runways, making the base unusable for some time.”
Source (with picture): https://t.me/intelslava/76162
Question remains for how long the runway will be unusable.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 15 2025 18:43 utc | 167

I just scrolled up and see a couple more posts from @Rageman, completely lacking in sources or citations.
[sigh]
It seems every night is Comedy Night these days.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 15 2025 18:45 utc | 169

Larry Johnson (Sonar 21) gives his view on the situation in this war:
– A western led cyberattack immobilized the iranian defenses ???
– Iran is retaliating / has been retaliating against Israel and it seems the israeli defense sysytem called “Iron Dome” was a complete failure ???
https://sonar21.com/the-zionists-are-crying-uncle-sam/
Time for Israel to this “a victory” and stop the attacks.

Posted by: WMG | Jun 15 2025 18:47 utc | 171

Posted by: NoName | Jun 15 2025 18:43 utc | 167 “making the base unusable for some time.”
Likely not unusable for long. A day or two if they care to repair it.
The difference is in the CEP of the weapons being used. Most of the Iranian missiles have a large CEPs, as in larger than the width of a typical taxiway or runway. So it would take a lot of missiles to be sure of putting a hole in a taxiway or a runway.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 15 2025 18:48 utc | 173

Another Q: Are the Zionists using bombs or cruise missiles? I very much doubt bombs since even with the glide add-ons their delivery jets still need to enter the AD zone. Yet another key point concealed by Fog.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 15 2025 18:50 utc | 175

Posted by: WMG | Jun 15 2025 18:47 utc | 171
#######
My perception of the Iranians is that they will not stop until Israel is destroyed completely. Bibi and Trump have become the new Saddam Hussein to Iranians. The hatred for Saddam continued after his death.
All of the talk of resuming negotiations and ending attacks is propaganda for Western public perception, manufacturing the illusion of control and options.
America FA, and now they have to FO. No leaving the table until their plate is completely cleaned.
“I’m not in here with you, you’re in here with me.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 15 2025 18:53 utc | 177

Laguerre@1833
Did you listen to the entire podcast by Attenborough? Yes, I noticed those discrepancies too…but did take the time to listen to both yesterday’s and today’s presentations. The ring of truth is present and was carefully and dutifully composed and researched…an amazing feat within a very short time-frame.
IF these two podcasts were NOT the production of Attenborough himself, there obviously would have been friends who contacted him to issue a denial and rebuttal.
P.S. The podcast was NOT part of the insider narrative and neither was it pro-Izzy.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 15 2025 18:54 utc | 179

No more analysis from me. My time has come. Did you know your will, too, soon?
Just a repost of why I think/have thought that. Not putting in blockquotes for better readability.
– –
Are you an Amalek?
–
A confession: I am an Amalek.
Of Amalekite tribe of course. I’ve known that I’m such a creature since Benny the Butcher first uttered it when he was ramping up the rhetoric against the Iranian nukes (circa 2007?).
Not being a Bible scholar, I look it up. For the uninitiated here is a sampling from wiki:
In 1 Samuel 15:1–9,[30] Samuel identifies Amalek as the enemy of Israelites, saying “Thus says the Lord of hosts: I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he ambushed him on the way when he came up from Egypt,” a reference to Exodus.[31] God then commands Saul to destroy the Amalekites, by killing man, woman, infant and suckling.[32] This massacre is believed to be a retelling of the raids in 1 Samuel 14:48,[33][34] although it additionally specifies that it occurred in the “city of Amalek”, which was believed to be the “principal place of arms”[35] or the “metropolis” of Amalek.[36] In 1 Samuel 15:33,[37] Samuel identifies King Agag of Amalek as an enemy and killer, saying “As your sword has made women childless, so shall your mother be childless among women.” [Emphasis mine, links at orig]
Ideation: only the chosen ones belong to this earth – well, at least eretz. The rest, as I maintain, are still finding out that, they too, are the Amalek – getting ready for the slaughterhouse.
Are you an Amalek?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 15 2025 18:55 utc | 181

Now we know, where the Zio-Monsters got their idea of Hamas HQs below hospitals – its the Zio-Monsters that have them below hospitals.
https://nitter.poast.org/SuzJamieson/status/1933910588461093192#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 15 2025 18:56 utc | 183

@
‘Another Q: Are the Zionists using bombs or cruise missiles? I very much doubt bombs since even with the glide add-ons their delivery jets still need to enter the AD zone. Yet another key point concealed by Fog.’
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 15 2025 18:50 utc | 175
See my previous post, there is a video of a bomb, glide or gravity i cannot tell, allegedly landing in Tehran. Not a good sign for Iranian AD if true:
https://t.me/myLordBebo/69950
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Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 15 2025 17:58 utc | 135

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 15 2025 19:01 utc | 185

@laguerre | Jun 15 2025 18:33 utc, who said re: the David Attenborough vid on Israel and Iran:

I’m pretty sure that Youtube is a fake. New channel, no video, just a still photo, and a rampant pro-Israel interpretation, no doubt with AI voice. I don’t think Attenborough would risk his reputation like that.

Laguerre: great sleuth work. I’d say you’re likely right about the provenance of the piece. However, what I found most interesting is that it was _accurate_. Never mind the pro-Israel slant, it accurately identified the impact of Iran’s first (month ago; seems like ancient history) successful breach of Iron Dome, e.g.:
a. Israel’s psychology of invincibility took a big hit. And you know how the Israeli’s need their sense of superiority. Remember who we’re dealing with here
b. The international community didn’t all come screaming to support Israel. U.S. didn’t knock themselves over to help punish Iran, nor did the rest of the world. Uh-oh. More insecurity.
c. The immediate regional players said “Gee. things seem different. Somebody whacked Israel – stood up as a nation, and took ’em on … and lived to tell about it. Wow!”. Saudi, Qatar, UAE and so forth noticed. More uh-oh for Israel, and the “Abrahamic Accords” (e.g. suck up to Israel agreements)
As I considered it, this vid answered the “why now” question re: Israel’s attack on Iran. In sum, it’s the ol’ “use it or lose it” theme again, only this time the shoe’s on the other foot. Israel’s losing power, and this is the critical moment.
Fake vid or not (e.g. really David Attenborough), it helped to answer that key “why now” question.
Thanks Laguerre for your intrepid take-down. That part passed me by totally. Yet another example of the power of numbers and good communication here @ the Bar. And thanks again to Aristodemos for bringing it to our attention.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 15 2025 19:03 utc | 187

@ aristodemos | Jun 15 2025 18:55 utc | 180
lol! i haven’t been following the posts today closely.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Jun 15 2025 19:05 utc | 189

karlof1@1840 June15
Diago Garcia is a tempting and obvious target. From its southeastern extremity, Iran’s hypersonics would do the job. That island was bought and paid for by the Gold of Perfidious Albion. All the natives have been kicked outta the place. So there would be NO “collateral damage”…just a Bunch of deluded American servicemen…and women…who might find themselves at the wrong place in the wrong time.
The City of London controlled U$$A designated attack-dog is geographically overextended and thereby highly vulnerable. The current idiot allegedly running affairs from the Tainted-House remains as clueless as most “connected” business types when it comes to matters of geopolitical reality. His advisors are mostly owned outright by the Neocon ideological Trotskyite Talmudists.
All of these matters are coming out in the wash. The genuine working classes are awakening to the fact that NEITHER of the Two Party duopoly are their “representatives” or friends.
Interesting times.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 15 2025 19:08 utc | 191

@116 Blindspot
That was March 25 (and sounded placatory). The point is we don’t know, maybe ? The whole media presentation is to suit policy and strategy, that much is fairly obvious, but now with “Iran having an excuse to build a weapon” or simply of wanting to hype a new conflict , or of Iran being in possession already … we don’t know.
My sensation is that Iran is honest on its capability and intent, but that it has researched, and has the ability to build, a nuclear weapon in short order if it so chose.
The point is also that whatever “Israel” imagines, it has not a right to pre-emptively attack Iran. It must first make a case before other nations, instead of relying on some IAEA card thrown in at last minute, without discussion.
I say ‘must’, the whole show is set up with a ‘just in time’ urgency we have become familiar with, and the planning for this direction is long and organised. The hypocrisy of using international norms and institutions while ignoring all their protocol is obvious, as is the strategy of regionally isolating Iran so as to finally attack it on pretexts.
If USreal wants to go without any rules, then it is asking for eventual chaos, because without a greater measure of good respect (not out of fear) the results are a form of illusion, or totalitarianism, or conflict.
Maybe it is the only kind of script they know, or have left, though.
He knew…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TjbWmigBeHQ
@SeanTheLeprechaun
It is very real. Out of the commenters here, I think you are one of the few aware of just high the stakes are in all of this.
If they truly consider Iran is at threshold, they might well use tactical nuclear weapons to destroy facilities.
They would not hesitate if they had no better option.
Equally that triggers an undeclared, and unknown of, nuclear reply by Iran.
Etc.
I think degradation and overthrow is what is aimed for though, but I don’t know.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 15 2025 19:09 utc | 193

I definitely asked myself this question yesterday and thought I did write something about it. But it’s possible I was just thinking about it and reading saner’s post. One gets older, and sorry to “saner” for copyright infringement 😉
Posted by: NoName | Jun 15 2025 19:04 utc | 188
Or maybe, if you check your memory again, you’ll find out, you actually did make those posts using “saner” as your moniker? I mean, old men do make mental mistakes, amirite?

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 15 2025 19:12 utc | 195

May I remind the posters here who aren’t haSSbara or ordinary antisemites that zionists can’t be Jews because Jews follow a religion and zionists are racist, fascist, imperialist, antisemite genocidal bastards. You can’t be both, only one or the other.

Posted by: Squeeth | Jun 15 2025 19:14 utc | 197

With the Bundeswehr, Germany is joining the coalition of shame.
https://t.me/Nachrichtenwelt/29909
Translated
“A Bundeswehr tanker aircraft, an A400M Atlas, took part in refuelling Israeli fighter jets over Jordan yesterday.
The Bundeswehr aircraft probably accidentally switched on its transponder for a short time, allowing it to be recognised.
The BRD regime is apparently actively supporting an unprovoked, brutal war of aggression that violates international law.”

Posted by: BlindSpot | Jun 15 2025 19:14 utc | 199