Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 24, 2025
Tic-Toc 9 On The War On Iran

A ceasefire.

To be broken in 3, 2, 1 …

Added:

Patrick Armstrong

So, what have we learned?

  • Iran is a lot more powerful than many people thought.
  • Western air defence systems aren’t very effective.
  • Who knew those little Iranian lawnmower-engined dorito drones could get all the way to Israel?
  • Hypersonic missiles are invulnerable and very frightening.
  • Tehran now knows which missiles in its arsenal are most effective and which most effectively soak up the enemy’s air defence and will build accordingly
  • Tehran’s decision to follow the missile-based armament route is vindicated. Suvorov: “Fight the enemy with the weapons he lacks“; Sun Tsu: “avoid strength and strike weakness“. `Others will notice.
  • Israel has used up the sleeper cells and intelligence penetration that it had built up in Iran.

and

My predictions.

  • The damage in Israel will be much greater and much more effective than we have been told.
  • In Iran, not so much.

I agree.

Comments

I see in some quarters the argument is that Iran would not dare close The Straits of Hormuz because this would harm the supply of oil and related products to chief ally China. But surely if Iran closes the Straits, it can selectively still allow certain ships through? In fact that would largely be the point of controlling the Straits… A strategic and economic necessity, as well as exercising its right to defend itself, now that Washington has launched a preemptive strike upon Iran…

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Jun 24 2025 16:03 utc | 301

“Why are oil prices DOWN?
who benefits from the lower $ price for oil.
More importantly who suffers from a lower $ price for oil?
There looks like some weird shit going down. Assymetrical?”
I recall the big reveal regarding the invasion(s?) of Iraq
(I think Assange made this clear after a tranche dump more than 15 years back)
was the prime motivation of gaming oil prices upward (naturally).
That was it. Reason enough for Standard Oil bearers.
As the Bush familia/consortium held office/power, pump prices were substantial, perhaps record highs if you factored the fluctuation of USD globally and the local economy heading into 2008.
What seems to be happening at the moment is domestic US protests against the foreign policy of the US are being held off with extreme prejudice.
The moronic No Kings charade and the positioning of troops to be ready for real trouble are not there for purposes of immigration issues. They were burning oxygen and waiting for real trouble, not being able to predict exactly what would happen, even with the media working the hypnotized public.
What has this to do with the price of gas down at the corner?
They work that hard to make sure Americans keep on doing.
I have seen the price at the pump failing to reflect the world at war before.
All I can do is laugh at the suggestions that voting your interests and throwing money is going to accomplish anything when all the candidates are carefully chosen by none of the voters.
That silly notion strikes me as more lying than gullibility.
We are mostly past the cheap tricks and down deep all of us understand what the reality is, no matter how we choose to parse it.
Perhaps that reality doesnt sink into other lands who see through another lens?
The hegemonic needs of the US government have more than one enemy.
Their biggest concern is within the borders, and not because people can vote. That is an outmoded and ludicrous possibility.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jun 24 2025 16:03 utc | 302

Even Stinkin Blinken – knows that attacking Iran was foolish.
“Former US Sec Blinken:
“Attacking Iran was a mistake
“Iran can quickly rebuild its facilities in locations that are immune to air strikes and, at the same time, advance the path of deterrence. Trump is now putting out a fire he himself started.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 16:06 utc | 303

The Trumpster does like to mouth-off.
“President Trump now on Air Force One:
“They’re not going to have enrichment and they’re not going to have a nuclear weapon. ”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 16:07 utc | 304

And now those fools will pay for it with their lives.
“Mossad collaborators in Iran, most of whom are Afghan nationals, say they were promised only about 20 million Toman ($225-250 USD) to blow up a powerplant”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1937537651327791143#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 16:09 utc | 305

‘Congratulations To Everyone!’ In Rope-A-Dope Strategy, The Bell Also Sounds For Rest
https://johnhelmer.net/congratulations-to-everyone-in-rope-a-dope-strategy-the-bell-also-sounds-for-rest-periods/
Trump is concealing Russian ultimatum – agree at NATO today to stop US arms, intel to the Ukraine, or Russia will start re-supplying Iran for resumption of the war.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 24 2025 16:11 utc | 306

Israel’s dream of a transit corridor in the Mediterranean is shattered.
Iranian rocket and drone attacks on Haifa have dealt an unprecedented blow to the vital infrastructure of the Israeli regime, effectively excluding this strategic port from international trade.
The ambitious project of the Arab-Mediterranean Corridor (IMEC), which aimed to transform the port of Haifa into a transit hub between Asia, Europe, and Africa, has completely failed due to the attacks on Haifa’s infrastructure by Iran.
The US-backed project, involving countries like Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and India, has now become an unattainable dream on Netanyahu’s desk.
“>https://t.me/CyberspecNews/84954

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 24 2025 16:13 utc | 307

2. If there is a ceasefire what have Israel and America achieved?
Absolutely nothing that they couldn’t have achieved last week via negotiations without going to war.
Now it worse as the Uranium has been removed and nobody knows where it is.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 10:18 utc | 13
Don’t worry,… it will probably turn up in the New York lost and found.

Posted by: Last Man | Jun 24 2025 16:14 utc | 308

Full optimism – and defiance, if anything the illegal attacks on the Theocratic regime – have strengthened many Iranians resolve, to defy Israel and the US and the West in general.
“Iran’s ‘Victory’ Parade begins at Enqelab Square, Tehran.
The following chants can be heard:
“We will stand until the end, America is complicit in all the crimes of the Zionist regime.”
“Labaik Ya Khamenei.”
“No compromise, no surrender to the battle with America. Death to America. Death to child-killing Israel.”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1937536286618685710#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 16:14 utc | 309

Takeaway:
Iran did a lot of things nobody thought they’d have the balls to do.
It did them anyway and nothing much worse happened than had already happened.
– The US didn’t retaliate with an obliterating strike.
– israel turned out to have no nukes. Well, no usable ones anyway.
– The Arab states didn’t retaliate for strikes on their territory (because it really isn’t their territory)
– israel didn’t assassinate the Ayatollah.
Sometimes you just have to throw the punch, and let your opponent deal with consequences instead of paralyzing yourself with fear.
After all, whose to say their ability to recover is better than your ability to take a punch?
If you’re going to get beat, get beat for a reason.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 16:15 utc | 310

This is interesting Orthodox Jews, line up with Free Palestine protestors – and they stand directly across from a group of pro-Israel/Zionist Jews – as expected – a bit of shouting at each other takes place amid the angry stares.
On the Orthodox Jews, didn’t Netanyahu try and force them to do military service, with disastrous results.
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1937529230469865736#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 16:20 utc | 311

Republicofscotland 308,
You put out a lot of good comments, so giving you shit isn’t something I want to do but, quoting Blinken for wisdom on war?
Their are over 1,000,000 dead soldiers from ex-ukrainia who died at the behest of Antony Blinken and Jake Sullivan and their mad dream of conquering Russia.
Blinken & Sullivan you will recall green-lit Israels extermination project across Gaza. Anything those two say is self-serving or, serves the ultr-monied-class who’s worship of the bloodthirsty gods of war…knows no bounds

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 24 2025 16:20 utc | 312

What do we do? Come on, I know you’re thinking what I’m thinking … (. . .
Posted by: Markw | Jun 24 2025 15:08 utc | 258
===============
I don’t know what you are thinking . . .
About regime change in iran?

Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 16:21 utc | 313

Again, I smell the influence of Saint Vladimir the Little all over the Iran acceptance of the ceasefire. After Raisi was assassinated (does anyone still REALLY doubt this?) Iran has fallen into Vladimir’s appeasement model, just as Raisi’s replacemente Pezeshkian bends over back as far as he can to appease the Tribe and its Deep State backers. Just as Assad’s attempt to appease the west was a catastrophe for the world and for Syria (directly causing the current Israeli surprise attack on Iran), so will Pezeshkian’s tendency to appeasement ultimately be Iran’s demise.
Make no mistake. If you strike a king, you had better kill him. Iran’s damage against Israel just means that next time, an Israeli strike against Iran will likely be nuclear. I used to have great respect for Iran, and I still do in the tech
nological realm, but they have a terminal case of denial which has led them to be weak at the very moment they were winning. Russia is not their friend, just as it was never Assad’s friend. If Iran were to get S300/S400, does anyone doubt t
hat they would not work against Israeli aircraft, just as Assad’s S300/S400 were never able to prevent IAF airstrikes against Syria??

Posted by: Simpleton | Jun 24 2025 16:23 utc | 314

S Brennan (317).
The point was by quoting Blinken – is that if Blinken who is terrible thinks Trumps attack was terrible then it must’ve been bad.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 16:23 utc | 315

In light of verified Israeli accounts openly tweeting that a symbolic bomb in Washington could “restore national honor,” it’s worth revisiting the precedent. Because this isn’t the first time Israel has operated inside U.S. borders with strategic ambiguity, and no consequences.
1999-2001, across 30+ U.S. cities, dozens of young Israeli nationals posing as art students began appearing uninvited at DEA, ATF, and even military offices across the U.S. According to a leaked DEA memo, they attempted to map floor plans, visit federal residences, and probe security layouts, behavior wildly inconsistent with any legitimate art initiative. Many had backgrounds in Israeli military intelligence, signal interception, and ordnance. Some were detained, none were charged, most were quietly sent home, and the story was buried.
Summer 2000, an Austrian “art collective” called Gelitin gained access to the 91st floor of the North Tower under an artist residency. They removed a window, installed a temporary balcony, and photographed it via helicopter. Their work, titled The B-Thing, was celebrated post-9/11 as avant-garde. But it also meant they had precise knowledge of structural access points in the months before the attacks.
Then came Urban Moving Systems. On September 11, 2001, 5 Israeli nationals, employees of that firm, were detained after being seen filming, cheering, and “high-fiving” as the Towers fell. They failed parts of their polygraphs, showed deception regarding Israeli intelligence ties, and were quietly deported. The company’s owner fled. No charges, no trials, just silence.
What ties all this together is not coincidence, but doctrine: logistical cover operations, embedded reconnaissance under cultural or commercial fronts, and physical access vectors disguised as art. Not one resulted in prosecution, despite surveillance, confessions, or intelligence flags. Nobody was ever punished, only repatriated.
So when someone from within that same national framework now posts that a bomb on U.S. soil might serve as symbolic leverage, it shouldn’t be dismissed as rhetoric, it’s precedent. America’s post-9/11 wars all aligned with Israeli strategic goals. And history shows: when the match is lit, the fingerprints are always scrubbed.
Today’s broadcast isn’t new. It’s the same signal, just louder.
https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGuOJSDsWcAA6uoA.jpg

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 16:24 utc | 316

Republicofscotland @ 308

Even Stinkin Blinken – knows that attacking Iran was foolish.
“Attacking Iran was a mistake Iran can quickly rebuild its facilities in locations that are immune to air strikes and, at the same time, advance the path of deterrence. Trump is now putting out a fire he himself started.”

“Patty cake, patty cake, baker’s man…”
This coming from the super-duper genius that started the war on Russia, all easy peasy, the Russian house of cards was supposed to collapse in a month or too. Tweedledum and Tweedledee pointing out the other’s mistakes. If it wasn’t such a harmful dangerous game it’d be hilarious.
https://graphicart-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/themarchoftyranny-bengarrison.jpg

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Jun 24 2025 16:25 utc | 317

make no mistake, its the empire of lies we are talking here. when any american, and i mean ANY, talks about how bad and illegal and whatnot it was that trump did the attack, then everyone should just know that they are not mad at trump, but mad at the undesired outcome.
like a cheater that shows “remorse”. they are just sad that they are caught, not that they cheated.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 24 2025 16:26 utc | 318

Same as above. “Verified” Israeli xWitter accounts threatening to bomb D.C.
I have mixed feelings about that, TBH.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/21066

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 16:28 utc | 319

And now those fools will pay for it with their lives.
“Mossad collaborators in Iran, most of whom are Afghan nationals, say they were promised only about 20 million Toman ($225-250 USD) to blow up a powerplant”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1937537651327791143#m
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 16:09 utc | 310–
Annalena’s 360deg legacy: more than 30k Afghans imported to Germany, without security check, without passport or with faked ids.
Sleeper cells being formed as we sit here at the bar. Once upon a time, Germany fought for freedom in the Hindu Kush. The contact line is getting close.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 24 2025 16:28 utc | 320

“As of now, there is NO “agreement” on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations. However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards,” Araghchi wrote on X.
Araghchi is a Jew operative/asset.
Araghchi does not speak for Iran.

Posted by: bad news | Jun 24 2025 16:31 utc | 321

Sorry to leave this once lovely bar after 11+ years. Bar patrons getting unrulier and ever coarser. Whatever happened to B’s admonition to “do not attack other posters”? Gone. My greetings of respect to Karlof, james, Juliana, and the very few other old-timers who have kept civility alive. Thank you. My very sad good-bye (and only comment) after all these years. All be well.

Posted by: Maria | Jun 24 2025 16:34 utc | 322

Donald J. Trump: “Thank you Jeb Bush! Very Much Appreciated!”
https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGuOKrSxa0AELNMN.jpg

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 16:34 utc | 323

Why does he keep asking if Khamenei is dead?
Much butthurt :

Iran Kills MOSSAD Chief DAVID BARNEA. More news kept it on the successful hits and strikes on critical infrastructure by Iran is slipping out.
“>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/big-breaking-iran-kills-mossad-chief-david-barnea-mossad-hq-bombed-to-ashes/vi-AA1GT3FP

Posted by: Tit4tat | Jun 24 2025 16:35 utc | 324

Iran Says Powerful Military Response Forced Israel To Halt Aggression Unilaterally
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/24/750092/iran-says-powerful-military-response-forces-israel-halt-aggression-unilaterally
“Israel’s top security body says the powerful Iranian military response as part of True Promise III forced the Israeli regime to halt its aggression unilaterally…”
Press TV LIVE
https://www.presstv.ir/Live
Iranians hold rallies to celebrate the victory over Israel – Israeli opposition leader Avigdor Lieberman lashes out at Netanyahu for ‘shameless ceasefire’.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 24 2025 16:39 utc | 325

see the 1:20 video at the third link
https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1937426291080237200
Craig Murray @CraigMurrayOrg
You can never trust the Israelis with a ceasefire or a negotiation.
They appear to have attempted exactly what I witnessed in Beirut – massive bombing in Tehran just before the deadline.
They then claim a breach when Tehran retaliates.
https://t.me/intelslava/77071
Intel Slava
🇮🇷🇮🇱❗️Iran and Israel have been fighting for so long and so hard that ” they don’t know what the f*ck they’re doing ” – Trump
They drove grandpa crazy…
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1784422742378295383
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
here is Shulamit Aloni, a leading Israeli politician who served as government minister, admitting it: “Anti-Semitism is a trick, we always use it. We bring up the Holocaust and call people anti-Semitic if they criticize Israel.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 24 2025 16:39 utc | 326

Republicofscotland 320,
As you know, many here think I am terrible and I thought Trump’s attack on Iran was idiotic, in fact, I did more that just offer Blinken & Sullivan’s after-the-fact criticism, I voiced my opposition a priori here and to the White House, Senators and congressman, [I’m probably now on some watch list]. That being the case, wouldn’t it be better to quote me than giving airtime to those two soulless pieces of $h!t? I mean c’mon man, you know Dumbass & T-Collins need their daily fodder.
Ref: “S Brennan (317), The point was by quoting Blinken – is that if Blinken who is terrible thinks Trumps attack was terrible then it must’ve been bad – Republicofscotland 320

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 24 2025 16:40 utc | 327

Sometimes you just have to throw the punch, and let your opponent deal with consequences instead of paralyzing yourself with fear.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 16:15 utc | 313
Arch, I just posted this in the last thread, in reply to Tom_Q_C. There is town in NM called ‘Truth or Consequences.’ That name resonates with me in these times.
Just recalled a quote from Ay. Khomeini:
Âmrikâ can’t do Jack…

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 24 2025 16:44 utc | 328

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 24 2025 16:40 utc | 330
Nobody gives a shit about you. Stop obsessing over me and pretending you’re important enough to hand out cookies at MOA like Vicky Nuland in Kyiv.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 16:45 utc | 329

“Donald Trump called Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and asked him not to attack Iran, an Axios reporter said in a X post on Tuesday, citing an Israeli official, Reuters reports.
Netanyahu told Trump that he was unable to cancel the attack and that it was needed because Iran violated the ceasefire, the Axios reporter said.”
Israel have Trumps nuts in a vice.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:55 utc | 93

—-
The real conversation:
NETTY: Bitch, you don’t call me. I just give the word to AIPAC and your ass is impeached and your whole family will rot in jail.
TRUMP: Sorry sir, it won’t happen again.
NETTY: Now get working on the supplemental $100 BILLION for Israel. I got bills to pay.
TRUMP: Yes sir!

Posted by: JackG | Jun 24 2025 16:47 utc | 330

How can you trust a people that deliberately started the first world war.
So,… why was the first world war planned and executed?
To establish Israel.
The plan was already well known in 1853.
“The subversion of the Turkish Power will evidently occasion, as all seem to anticipate, a fearful general war. This war will, I believe, be the last under the present order of things. It will commence, indeed, in Europe: but,… it will pass into Palestine…. and, in the course of its evolutions, Israel will be restored.
The quote is from George Faber’s 1853 book on the downfall of the Turkish power and the return of the ten tribes.
It mostly came true:
“The subversion of the Turkish Power [the Ottoman Empire] will evidently occasion, as all seem to anticipate, a fearful general war [the first world war]. This war will, I believe, be the last under the present order of things [a new world order]. It will commence, indeed, in Europe [with the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in 1914]: but,… it will pass into Palestine [western troops entered Palestine early in 1917]…. and, in the course of its evolutions [the second world war in 1939], Israel will be restored [Palestine/Israel was successfully stolen from its rightful inhabitants in 1948].”
Some have complained that George Faber should not be included among the conspirators. They claim that he was just being used by the Jews to attain their ends. To back up their claim they state that Faber foresaw the return of all twelve tribes of Israel, which never happened, whereas the Jews only wanted the return of the Jews, which did happen. Once the Jews had obtained their goal, no more was heard about the return of the other tribes, it just wasn’t a concern. This indicates that Faber’s notions were of little importance, and that he was being used by the conspirators, rather than that he was among the conspirators.

Posted by: George Faber | Jun 24 2025 16:48 utc | 331

And the beat goes on:

Reports from Gaza confirm that at least 3 Israeli soldiers were killed and 7 others wounded in the latest ambush by the Palestinian resistance.
@PressTV

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 16:55 utc | 332

Iranians hunt Mossad collaborators and set up checkpoints.
https://archive.is/3oIOE
I’m all for this, but it’s sad that the Trump-Neocon-Zionist economic war on Iranians has impoverished so many and that Iran has had to absorb so many Afghan refugees of the American-Israeli war, which should have targeted Israel and Saudi Arabia, has caused people there to be desperate enough to take money for working with Mossad, CIA and MI6.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 16:56 utc | 333

Didn’t see this come up again, and I was moved by the wisdom:
Ayatollah Khamenei: “We are fighting to stop America monopolizing peace.”
(This is from Sun of Alabama’s posting Jun 24 2025 12:05 utc | 105.)

Posted by: Konami | Jun 24 2025 16:56 utc | 334

@335 Arch
‘Triple ambush’… still ongoing.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 24 2025 16:59 utc | 335

Mildly relevant to topic…
Oz.gov has warned petrol retailers to refrain from profiteering if/when Iran closes Hormuz Strait.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 24 2025 16:59 utc | 336

Oct. 1, 2024
“The cost of developing new oil projects has increased due to inflation and supply chain challenges, but breakeven prices are still below current oil prices.
Tight oil and offshore projects offer the most competitive costs, while oil sands remain the most expensive production source.
Despite rising costs, future oil supply is expected to increase, driven by production from OPEC countries and shale projects, with a projected equilibrium oil price of $55 per barrel in 2030.
The cost of developing new upstream oil projects is continuing to rise as inflationary pressure and supply chain woes endure. New research from Rystad Energy shows that the average breakeven cost of a non-OPEC oil project grew to $47 per barrel of Brent crude, a 5% increase in the last year alone. Despite rising costs, breakevens are still less than current oil prices.
Offshore deepwater and tight oil projects remain the most economical new supply sources, with oil sands still the most expensive. By analyzing breakeven costs, we can estimate how much crude oil will be delivered in the future based on the economic viability of different supply sources. The new research suggests that despite rising costs, more supply is likely in 2030, driven mainly by production from OPEC countries, where costs are low, and the resource potential is high. The new equilibrium oil price for 105 million barrels per day of demand in 2030 is around $55 per barrel.
The research includes a detailed global cost-of-supply analysis for remaining liquids resources, split into producing and not-yet-producing fields. The not-yet-producing fields are further divided into different supply segment groups. The report found that onshore Middle East is the cheapest source of new production, with an average breakeven price of just $27 per barrel. This segment also boasts one of the most significant resource potentials. Offshore shelf is the next cheapest ($37 per barrel), followed by offshore deepwater ($43) and North American shale ($45). Conversely, oil sands production breakevens average $57 per barrel, but can go as high as about $75.”
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Oil-Production-Costs-Surge-But-Shale-Projects-Remain-Profitable.html

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 17:01 utc | 337

NEW: Al-Qassam Brigades have published footage of sniping Israeli soldiers, blowing up a ‘Merkava’ tank and attacking a gathering of 11 troops in Khan Younis, southern Gaza. (MES, 21077)
That is news. Of course you can expect that the societal frictions are mirrored in the IDF.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 24 2025 17:02 utc | 338

Trump? Strategic grandmaster or orange pile of crud- doesn’t matter a jot as the analysis is flawed if based only on an assessment of personality.
The real question to ask is does he fulfil the objectives of his capitalist imperial masters’ designs for advanced capitalism to remain the world’s hegemon. If it wasn’t Trump it’d be someone else. He neither planned nor set out the strategies being followed.
Without an understanding that class, not personality is the issue, you can bandy your insults around forever and gain no insight into what’s happening.
Capitalism is degrading to its full fascist stage and war is one of the consequences. A great deal of consciousness raising is still required as is apparent from those posters who see what’s happening as essentially an entertainment.
Speculating about whether Trump is a genius or an idiot or whether Netanyahu Starmer, Macron, Meloni etc will stop the killings or onward progress of their wars, is a complete waste of time that could be better spent reading Marx, Lenin Gramsci, Mao and Guevara to name a few.

Posted by: Vragtes | Jun 24 2025 17:03 utc | 339

Posted by: JackG | Jun 24 2025 16:47 utc | 333
Lol!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 17:05 utc | 340

Current and planned NPPs around the world:
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/current-and-future-generation/plans-for-new-reactors-worldwide

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 17:06 utc | 341

Ceasefire in the Iranian/Israeli war, they say. If so, well done Trump! Hope his odd series of manoeuvres has drawn the teeth of the Washington neocons. Doubt it though. And Trump has failed to stop the atrocities in Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon. Plus whatever the proxy regime in Syria is doing by way of atrocity. So a heavily qualified well done at that, even allowing for the ceasefire looking so frail.
The Israelis have ditched themselves and the West along with them. After the Western support for the Gaza atrocities, the US/ UK and Germany in the forefront, the diplomatic and moral credibility of the West, shaky before, is now gone. We Westerners now have to live in a world the majority of which now regards us as pariah states. Oderint dum metuant is the only foreign policy we have left.
That worked when the Western countries were the the predominant and maybe the only serious military powers. Now we’re not, all we have left is US nuclear and David Ignatius’ “dirty war”. When Merz said recently the Israelis are doing the dirty work for us he probably didn’t realise he was condemning himself more than them. What some call the “Global South” did and that does for any lingering pretence that we’re upholding a “rules based international order”.
That reads straight across to the conflict now drawing to its end in Ukraine. The assassinations in the then self-declared republics and the later assassinations in Russia itself are now admitted even in the Western press to have been run out of bases set up by the West for that purpose from 2014 on. Run by “our babies” as they were termed. Those assassinations mirrored by the assassinations in the Middle East, also now openly admitted.
In addition we can now count four attempts to sabotage nuclear power plants – some also admitted to by the Western press and by the Ukrainians – plus the attempts to seize NPP’s and use them as bargaining counters. And the use of container drones or pre-placed drones has been seen against both Iran and Russia. Not one-offs from unaccountable terrorist groups but long planned operations conducted by Western countries. This is “dirty war” at its maximum and there is no longer any pretence that the Israelis or the Ukrainians do it all by themselves.
Also long gone is any pretence that the Ukrainians have been running their war over there. Just as with the Iranian war, we’ve been up to our necks in that war as well. Western countries, mainly the US and UK, micromanaged that war and did so with a merciless disregard for the proxies. The “Summer Offensive”, Krinky, the Kursk offensive, to name three of the worst, were operations planned by our General staffs often against the better judgement of the Ukrainian General Staff. Had any NATO General thrown away the lives of NATO troops like that he would, as was remarked at the time, have been cashiered. But it was only the proxies so the Milley/Cavoli/Radakin trio got away with it. The Ukrainian PBI didn’t and the way we threw their lives away in suicidal operations that had not the ghost of a chance of success was a war crime in itself.
“Dirty war”, incompetent war, sacrificial war, both in the Middle East and in Ukraine, that’s the mess Trump’s been left with.
There are observers and analysts, respectable analysts at that and not the information warriors who peddle their “analyses” in the degraded Western press, not the Lees or the Kofmans or the ISW, who assert that Trump is merely another face of a predatory and ruthless Western political establishment. Brian Berletic has been foremost amongst those warning us of that. Berletic’s got so much right over the years, and that when few others did, that it’s maybe over-optimistic to hope he’s got that wrong. But I believe it’s still possible to argue that Trump, and very many of those supporting Trump, do not see these endless forever wars as the mission. The mission is to rescue the US from the state of near terminal decline it’s got itself into. Forever wars are in the way of that.
So it might be legitimate to see Trump as opposed to the powerful war factions in the US rather than as merely another face for those factions. With the midterms looming he doesn’t have much choice but to attempt to placate or outmanoeuvre those factions. It doesn’t look pretty but maybe he’s doing it the only way it can be done.

Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 24 2025 17:07 utc | 342

Too many unknowns and loose ends of all kinds to be able to start to even guess at a coherent broader picture of where we are at now with all of this.
The only thing near certain is that a military pause does not mean a wider pause, so it is to observe if or how redirection is attempted or happens.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 24 2025 17:07 utc | 343

S Brennan 330, Nobody gives a shit about you – Tom_Q_Collins 332
A very ironic remark indeed and yeah…I really do think.
😆 🤣 😆 🤣
FYI, I’m using the tern ironic as “when a clueless fool inadvertently reveals a truth“. C0llins you’re the one endlessly addressing my remarks with ad hominems. Clearly you care very, very, very much what I have to say, you’re just too incompetent of a thinker to counter with a reasoned argument instead, you rely volume and insults and…it’s the best you do.
I mean, between you and Dumbass you guys must make up 20% of the comments and at least 60% of the ad hominems on any give post.
😆 🤣 😆 🤣

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 24 2025 17:08 utc | 344

Sept. 13, 2024
“The Institute of International Finance (IIF) has forecast a decrease in Russia’s fiscal breakeven oil price (the amount to balance the external current account) to $77 per barrel by 2025, supported by a recovery in oil and gas revenues. At the same time, the external breakeven oil price (the amount to balance budget spending for extraction), currently at $41 per barrel, is the second lowest among major hydrocarbon exporters.”
https://www.intellinews.com/russia-s-budget-oil-breakeven-price-world-s-second-lowest-as-oil-revenues-recover-343171/

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 17:11 utc | 345

@Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 16:24 utc | 319
Well said. Obviously I am not US American, but as a structural engineer I have studied that event quite extensively. Such concrete threats should be taken very seriously.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 17:11 utc | 346

Apparently, AI slop is more prevalent than I thought. If TK is an indication, its pretty sophisticated.
Posted by: john brewster | Jun 24 2025 15:16 utc | 267
Is Thomas Keith using AI? I hope so.
There are at this point as many task specific custom AI machines as there are ways to skin a cat.
Sure the free consumer AI that mostly draws from the internet is not going to provide useful geopolitical analysis. But custom in-house AI that is curated with reliable hard data (statistics, specifications, test results, policy papers, etc etc) is a different breed.
Palantir Technologies AI, for example, surely has little resemblance to ChatGPT in terms of quality of inputs or usefulness of outputs as relates to geopolitical analysis.

Posted by: meh | Jun 24 2025 17:11 utc | 347

Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 24 2025 17:07 utc | 345
To add to your salient first few points:
https://pluralistic.net/2024/12/06/shoenabombers/#paging-dick-cheney
I doubt many in the west have even begun to grasp this paradigm shift.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 17:13 utc | 348

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 17:11 utc | 349
Sorry I had to go back to my comment and realized that my quotes didn’t work. That missive was intended to be a quotation of what I thought was at the link I pasted. I didn’t author those words. They came from a link at DD Geopolitics. But yes, I agree 100%.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 17:18 utc | 349

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 24 2025 17:08 utc | 347
Look who’s triggered. I’m not the one constantly mentioning your handle if you really want to talk textbook irony…or ad hominem.
🥱 🥱 🥱

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 17:22 utc | 350

Blinken & Sullivan you will recall green-lit Israels extermination project across Gaza. Anything those two say is self-serving or, serves the ultr-monied-class who’s worship of the bloodthirsty gods of war…knows no bounds
Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 24 2025 16:20 utc | 315
There are a lot of brain dead catamites for the DNC who will tell you about Blinken and Sullivan. I’d say in response that if there had ever been a real ceasefire in Ukraine or Gaza, Kamala Harris might have won the election. You’ll get pie-faced homos like Michael Tracy pretending that “Israel has a right to defend itself” isn’t standard cover throughout the West for literally whatever Israel wants to do. We’ve seen what actual failed wars look like, and the verdict on Team Biden pretty much wrecked the Democrats.
That doesn’t mean Team Trump should do anything but jettison Ukraine and Israel. We’re coming real close to the point they could probably wipe out Congress with gunfire if they could guarantee no more Middle Eastern wars.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 24 2025 17:22 utc | 351

Iran stood the same way Hussain stood in Karbala —
Few in number. Pure in intention.
And the Yazids of today couldn’t defeat that noor.
“The martyr never dies.” (Qur’an 3:169)

https://x.com/iamSaharEmami/status/1937561444695838723
Noor means “light” in Arabic

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 17:23 utc | 352

Can you imagine what Israel would look like if the conflict was 4 weeks long?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 14:55 utc | 248
Gradually worse but gently
You don’t knock-out or lethally hit a bastard (no matter how feeble) with a suicide vest and holding a dead man switch.
You might risk kicking him in the balls, you rip a ear off, couple of ribs, kneecap the fucker, but carefully and never putting yourself between him and the exit.
You cannot kill him, not even hound him mortally , you can’t even render him unconscious .
Israel losing only guarantees some kind of cease fire asap
And us not seriously getting in the fray is also a top priority (probably for the next century)

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 24 2025 17:25 utc | 353

“You put out a lot of good comments, so giving you shit isn’t something I want to do but”
S Brennan (315).
On the above – I’m open to criticism just like the next commentor – so in the future, and this isn’t aimed at you its aimed at ALL commentors in here – if you want to question any my comments or links fair enough everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if I see it – and have time – I will reply best I can.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 17:27 utc | 354

Ornot (346).
That comment kind of reminds of what Rumsfeld said.
“Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 17:31 utc | 355

@358
Some unknown unknowns are bc the planners don’t know what can hurt them. Who hires them?
Some unknown unknowns come from planners who fear to bring their doubts up to keep their jobs.
Rumsfeld was Sec Def twice.
He knows that!

Posted by: paddy | Jun 24 2025 17:37 utc | 356

“As you know, many here think I am terrible and I thought Trump’s attack on Iran was idiotic”
S Brennan (330).
I’m here to play the ball – not the man I see no point in getting involved in petty squabbles over something we have no control over – we are just giving our opinions, and occasionally links as well.
And yes I agree Trumps attack on Iran was foolish, it has solidified internal support for the Theocratic regime in Iran – the US and Israel cannot be allowed to attack at will, whatever country they want to – regardless of whether or not some folk find its distastefully governed – that’s for the Iranian people to deal with.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 17:38 utc | 357

In the imaginary world of the liars the material in front of the bunker buster disappears and is magically placed behind the bunker buster, by G_d or something. Since the liars believe the public has no clue about physics/mechanics, they regularly dish up such fairy tales.
Posted by: janet | Jun 24 2025 10:48 utc | 28
TRUE
A bit complicated to explain, but absolutely TRUE.
We at the Geological Survey of Belgium also discussed these images; our chief geologist even wanted to call NASA and ask which idiot put this joke together.
Posted by: Nemesis | Jun 24 2025 13:50 utc | 196
=========================================
Y’all don’t seem to get it. The fact that it’s fake, that this can be determined by anyone with a modicum of interest to inspect the photo a little, is beside the point. The play has already moved on to a different act and no one cares.

Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 24 2025 17:39 utc | 358

Sorry, kiddos. But the laws of physics were put on indefinite hold exactly 23 years, 9 months and 13 days ago in lower Manhattan.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 13:58 utc | 204
Yes. The official story claims Islam attacked us. What that might mean is their god is greater as it allowed followers to ignore physics on that day

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jun 24 2025 17:39 utc | 359

“I spent millions of my own money…”
Poor thing.
‘millions of my own money’
We common men and women don’t stand a chance against this.
Maybe Massie will explain this to ‘MTG’ – he plays the role of ‘everyman’ these days.
https://www.timeofinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Christmas-family-picture.jpg
[I’m not anti-gun but the gun ‘culture’ in the US is as stupid and superficial as everything else about this country these days]

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 24 2025 17:48 utc | 360

And yes I agree Trumps attack on Iran was foolish, it has solidified internal support for the Theocratic regime in Iran
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 17:38 utc | 360
Next to “driving apart Russia and China,” this is the sentiment that keeps me really skeptical. Is there a way to drive a wedge between a nation and its rulers? Even if you’re lucky enough to not be ruled by AIPAC, the answer is yes. Otherwise how were Mossad agents able to get up to as much mischief as they did?
But internal regime change from a supposedly popular uprising almost never works. The government has to be incredibly weak and their partisans unmotivated to fight. That was never going to be the case in Iran. If enough people are dissatisfied or impoverished that you can bribe them into treason, that’s probably the best you can hope for.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 24 2025 17:50 utc | 361

The mission is to rescue the US from the state of near terminal decline. Forever wars are in the way of that.
English Outsider | Jun 24 2025 17:07 utc | 345
Nice recap, however in no way does it support your conclusion. To the contrary, forever wars are the solution; what’s missing is winning.
How do you win? Well, first and foremost we need to ditch the multi $trillion albatross known as manned air, ground and sea (carriers). Ukraine demonstrated it, Iran proved it: AI drones and hyper sonics.
The old school costs are monstously expensive to produce, maintain and deploy. Perhaps more importantly, Iran demonstrated how ineffective (and inefficient) it is to maintain a heavy forward posture, not to mention – cough, genocide, cough – the associated political costs.
But that’s just the kinetic arsenal. The real play is AI neurogenics, the ability to deploy nano particles, infect and control enemy opposition in conjunction with bio-chem agents in order to destroy their will/ability to fight.
The future is going to get a lot more ‘interesting’. The entire world order is in a state of flux, with the 3 majors all perfectly aware what the fight is all about: energy, its accelerating scarcity, and what it means to the $dollar system.
In this environment, junior states and vassals are like mice among the elephants. Israel is at very real risk of being let go, especially if Iran emerges as the new darling being courted by who else but the USA.

Posted by: Markw | Jun 24 2025 17:50 utc | 362

So when someone from within that same national framework now posts that a bomb on U.S. soil might serve as symbolic leverage, it shouldn’t be dismissed as rhetoric, it’s precedent. America’s post-9/11 wars all aligned with Israeli strategic goals. And history shows: when the match is lit, the fingerprints are always scrubbed.
Today’s broadcast isn’t new. It’s the same signal, just louder.
https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGuOJSDsWcAA6uoA.jpg
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 16:24 utc | 319
===============
Side note, Willy Brandt:
“Brandt resigned as chancellor in 1974, after Günter Guillaume, one of his closest aides, was exposed as an agent of the Stasi, the East German secret service.”
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Guillaume
My point: “In 1956, he and his wife Christel, also a Stasi agent, emigrated to West Germany on Stasi orders to penetrate and spy on West Germany’s political system. Rising through the hierarchy of the Social Democratic Party of Germany, he became a close aide to West German chancellor Willy Brandt. ”
People who think in terms of sleeper cells plan well ahead. (Of course in postwar Germany one advantage was that they all spoke German.)

Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 17:51 utc | 363

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-jul-25-mn-16208-story.html
Israelis/Jews see themselves as the “sucker” if they don’t “win” in any situation.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 12:25 utc | 126

AND the article explains, it is a cardinal sin to be seen as a sucker in Israel.
This helps understand October 7th.
Israelis aren’t going to admit to themselves that Netanyahu made suckers of them
with his treachery and betrayal, his false-flag.
And if they were forced to be in such a realization about Netanyahu then they would blame themselves
for being the suckers, Netanyahu was just being a standard Israeli. And also Netanyahu was doing it “for the good of the Nation”.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 24 2025 17:52 utc | 364

The play has already moved on to a different act and no one cares.
jonboinAR | Jun 24 2025 17:39 utc | 361
Please post more. This place is infested with crybabies. What B needs is to up his game by being perhaps the only place on the web where straight dope is dished out on the daily.

Posted by: Markw | Jun 24 2025 17:53 utc | 365

I am reading at Reuters that Trump, the impotent, has now used the f… word in public about what is going on in HIS schoolyard.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and Trump has added a peculiar stench to the show, IMO.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 24 2025 17:53 utc | 366

One thing is for sure……the IDF got its butt kicked big time Omg !
Main Lod Airport pummeled, Haifa turned into Gaza, IDF regional HQ C and C centers hammered, Mossad and C4i HQ’s blasted, Dimona directly struck multiple times, IDF airbases wasted, Tel Aviv hugely impacted….
Total Bibi over-reach, and boy or boy (not goy) did it get his struck in the meatgrinder…could not happen to a better fellow….

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 24 2025 17:54 utc | 367

Even the most pro-Israel MAGA people like Erik Prince are angry at Israel for dragging the US into another Middle East war (42 minute).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6VvdgVOjSw&ab_channel=FoxNews

Posted by: sliders | Jun 24 2025 17:55 utc | 368

This sounds like Iranian chiefs are saying that Israel fired the single missile (if it was indeed fired at all) to allow the ceasefire to be broken, and for Israel to carry out bombing sorties over Iran.
“Iran has firmly denied reports about any new missile launches from the Islamic Republic toward the occupied territories after the regime ceased its aggression early on Tuesday.
In a statement on Tuesday, the General Staff of the Armed Forces denied any missile launches from Iran toward the occupied territories after the regime was forced to halt its aggression against the Islamic Republic after 12 days.
The statement noted that some sources affiliated with the Zionist regime claimed that Iranian missiles had been fired at the regime’s territory, but it wasn’t true.
Hours after the regime was forced to halt its aggression against Iran as part of a deal with US President Donald Trump, Israeli war affairs minister Israel Katz said he had instructed the Israeli military to “respond forcefully” to what he claimed to be Iran’s violation of the “truce.”
A well-informed source told Press TV that the claim was just a pretext to initiate the breach of the so-called “truce” agreement reached between the Israeli regime and Washington.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 17:58 utc | 369

@350 meh
Sounds like an ‘intellectual boutique’, where the customer flits over various presentations and decides which would look nicest on their wall.
They used to do that in the 60’s or earlier and still do, with weird art. At least everyone knew it was subjective and subliminal then, now virtual reality is what is happening in the room around you, whereas the screen presents the future that must absorb that mundane present.
The amusement of the million dollar “Banana on Stilts” styrofoam sculpture has instead been replaced by a US president generated as an Alfred Neuman Kirk Douglas cross with a dash of Wilbur Smith.
I think the rest of the world is well mannered and does understand the difficulty of finding some kind of presentability from the US, and so that is why no one says much.
What is less known though is that Americans also cannot make sense of it at all either, being that they would not admit to only pretending to.
I’m just wondering what is found next to distort, maybe to try to convince you that you are not you, or something similar. At least that seems a particular drift of it all.
Would not be much you would be able to do about that if you weren’t you, would there ?
When eventually everyone was told they weren’t them really, the world would then go bonkers.
Maybe that is what is happening now ?
Are you really you ?
No peeking…

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 24 2025 17:59 utc | 370

In addition to the power stations and AAD batteries destroyed by Iranian strategic missile command forces…..the IDF is now the paper tiger busy killing unarmed scientists and government officials….pathetic showing from the Gaza genociders !

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 24 2025 18:03 utc | 371

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 12:25 utc | 126
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Freier is a great name for an Israeli. I am tempted to make it a fashion brand. A star of David and “Freier” in Hebrew.
So many Judeo-Christians in America would proudly wear it.
“Boy, those Iranians really showed Bibi to be a freier, didn’t they?”
“I wonder if those people camping out in bomb shelter feel like freiers.”
“You want to move to Israel? Why? Are you a freier?”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 18:04 utc | 372

329
indeed
a generational british trick.
kill the semites you nose the real ones in gaza.
the children of palestine.
for it is known the the khazhar ashkanazim the identity thieves and name stealers are russio turk bandits and not semite..
meanwhile tik tok tok tik the folks in gaza are left as produce to be picked off as blood sacrifice offering to moloch

Posted by: dan | Jun 24 2025 18:05 utc | 373

Freier Witkoff and Freier Lutnick. LOL

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 18:06 utc | 374

Israelis aren’t going to admit to themselves that the USA made suckers of them
Otto Penn | Jun 24 2025 17:52 utc | 367
Oh but it’s dawning on them now, just another Ukraine to be used, abused and discarded like a used condom when things go south.
How many emigres will, one, keep quiet about where they’re from, and two, once outed, will deny any/all support for the (former?) government?
The advantage of being an American is being exposed to a constant train of newcomers all intent on quickly becoming part of the ‘winning team’.

Posted by: Markw | Jun 24 2025 18:07 utc | 375

Author Shahar, a dual citizen of Israel and the United States, said Americans are perceived as innocents who follow the rules and who believe a person will actually do what he promises to do. “An American is willing to trust until someone proves to be untrustworthy,” Shahar said. “Israel is much more like the rest of the world, where the basic assumption is that people . . . should not be trusted until proven trustworthy.”
Israelis, she said, view rules as something to be challenged. If a sign says “no entrance,” Israelis will try the door anyway. If a doctor’s assistant says no appointments are available today, an Israeli will keep pushing in the belief that exceptions will be made. Only a freier takes no for an answer.
Israelis see this rule-bending as an advantage, particularly in times of war, when flexibility and improvisation can be a key to victory.
Americans see used-car dealers as villains and sympathize with the consumer who has been had. But buy a lemon in Israel, and you are at fault. “You were naive and stupid enough to buy the car,” Shahar said. “You were the freier.”

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-jul-25-mn-16208-story.html
If you make a deal with an Israeli, or a ceasefire,
he will test the edges and see what he can get away with.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 24 2025 18:09 utc | 376

They Call Me Mister (364).
On your second point, I’m sure there are just many dissidents in Iran as there are in other nation around the globe – however the illegal attack on Iran by the US and Israel – especially when Israel is carrying out a genocide, has galvanised the Iranian population into drowning out the voices of any dissidents, who otherwise would probably have garnered some support on very unpopular government policies in Iran – add in that the authorities at this particular and crucial time will not tolerate any anti, if not Iranian voices – internally, then anti government voices.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 18:14 utc | 377

so much loss in israel so much trauma i agree with bono and bob geldof and sean penn we must all come together in music and raise a trillion dollars to build is ra heil hell back better.
come on people we can do it just 6 trillion as small financial offering is all that is needed.
freedom your safety costs help aipac raise moshiec sorry mammon sorry moloch
i mean money

Posted by: dan | Jun 24 2025 18:17 utc | 378

Palantir Technologies AI, for example, surely has little resemblance to ChatGPT in terms of quality of inputs or usefulness of outputs as relates to geopolitical analysis.
Posted by: meh | Jun 24 2025 17:11 utc | 350

Palantir, you say?
Well, according to Alastair Crooke the key ‘intelligence’ that Trump used to ignore the entire National Security apparatus of his own administration came from Palantir’s own, super-duper AI slop.
Hopefully Trump has now crayoned across the top of his full length mirror:
“A.I. IS NOT GOD! ”
“THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER”.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 24 2025 18:17 utc | 379

Wait . . .
Ummmm . . . Trump makes awkward, crazy Kabuki play in the Middle East. Smoke is cheap and with Photoshop, no mirrors required. He ties up many available strategic military assets. Uses up most available statecraft oriented brain cells in the beltway and beyond. Consumes all available oxygen in the breathless media world. Oh, sorry, nothing left over for Zelensky. Is Trump taking chess lessons from Mr. Putin, or is this simply recycled material from “The Apprentice”?

Posted by: CoyoteLaughs | Jun 24 2025 18:17 utc | 380

Those opposed to the ceasefire need to realize that adherence to the ceasefire is proving to be driving a wedge between Trump and Netanyahu.
Netanyahu cannot afford to have a ceasefire, since he knows once the violence ends he has no justification for attacking Iran now that the nuclear facilities have been bombed to Trump’s satisfaction. His goal of regime change and a compliant regime in Iran a la Saudi UAE, Qatar vanishes once the war with Iran ends.
Regime change is now off the table for Trump ever since the MAGA base pushed back against war with Iran.
Trump still needs the MAGA base for the midterm elections, as well as Israel Lobby money. His compromise was to go through the motions of bombing the nuclear facilities, and absorb organs face saving “retaliation”. As far as he’s concerned the file is closed, anything more bearable too much risk for him.
As long as Trump and Netanyahu have opposing necessities there will be conflict between the two.
For peace, that can only be a good thing.

Posted by: Delhiliterally | Jun 24 2025 18:19 utc | 381

Good grief.
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Iranian air defenses activated in Tehran, Hamadan and Shiraz

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 18:20 utc | 382

Posted by: Konami | Jun 24 2025 16:56 utc | 337
thanks for reposting this profound , wise thought;
Thoughts like this, are created de novo, by wise people, men or women.
This associates my thoughts to the reason, why the Israelis/NeoNazis/Zionazis, are killing the intelligent, smart people of ‘not – their – own’ tribe. And I mean not only the nuclear engineers, but the creative minds, like poets (Refat Alareer for example, just to name one) – Did Alareer kill any Israeli, or a Jew?
The Israelis are so proud to have Einstein, Thomas Mann, and other Nobel-prize recipients of Jewish ethnicity among their ‘tribe’. (the NYT columnist David Brooks, whose son served in the IDF, wrote a column on this very topic).
They are simply afraid that others may be also intelligent, wise – and that is their fear, that their tribal DNA will somehow get lost, diluted by the other populations and that their influence possibly will somehow wane.
The ethnicity is more important for them than the religion.
That is the reason that they are bombing schools, universities in Gaza, and now in Iran. And that is the reason why they are getting US and european universities to expel thoughtful people who do not belong to the tribe.

Posted by: fanto | Jun 24 2025 18:20 utc | 383

Otto Penn | Jun 24 2025 17:52 utc | 367
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40-second lesson in rhetoric. You impose the narrative, you don’t wait for the other party to agree to it.
Lyin’ Ted
Little Marco
Low Energy Jeb
Crooked Hillary
Sleepy Joe
You give them a short name that is repeated ad nauseam.
When the target pushes back, it sticks harder because most people repeat it, branding themselves. Their response is a confirmation, like how every Israeli/Globalist accusation is a confession.
TACO. I think this one was rhetorically clever. Normally, the “left can’t meme” or do comedy. Anything Trump does that is less than a total victory is now framed as a “back down” or failure.
If Trump doesn’t act? Chickened out. If Trump acts at less than total success? Too feeble. Chickened out.
Combined with his tendency to embellish and promote, it becomes a self-fulfilling nickname.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 18:21 utc | 384

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/21082
False alarm I hope.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 18:24 utc | 385

fyi for those unfamiliar with The Islamic Republic of Iran – overview
News
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Israel-Iran conflict
A simple visual guide to Iran and its people
With a population of 92 million, Iran is the 17-th largest country in the world by population and land area.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/20/a-simple-visual-guide-to-iran-and-its-people

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 24 2025 18:24 utc | 386

If Trump doesn’t act? Chickened out. If Trump acts at less than total success? Too feeble. Chickened out.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 18:21 utc | 387
Maybe someone needs to get cooked with nukes before terror whores and Jews alike stop doubling down on every hand and calling it victory. That’s not being clever, that’s just being a cunt who giggles while men do the fighting.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 24 2025 18:27 utc | 387

If you make a deal with an Israeli, or a ceasefire,
he will test the edges and see what he can get away with.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 24 2025 18:09 utc | 379
In the same vein, here is how Chris Hedges sees it.
And why it was so easy for Netanyahu to fool Israelis on October 7th and beyond.

The Big Lie allows believers to take comfort–a comfort they are desperately seeking–in their own moral superiority at the very moment they have abrogated all morality.
The Big Lie, as the father of American public relations, Edward Bernays, wrote, is limited only by the propagandist’s capacity to fathom and harness the undercurrents of individual and mass psychology. And since most supporters of Israel do not have a desire to know the truth, a truth that would force them to examine their own racism and self-delusions about Zionist and Western moral superiority, like packs of famished dogs they lap up the lies fed to them by the Israeli government. The Big Lie always finds fertile soil in what Bernays called the “logic-proof compartment of dogmatic adherence.” All effective propaganda, Bernays wrote, targets and builds upon these irrational “psychological habits.”
This is the world Franz Kafka envisioned, a world where the irrational becomes rational. It is one where, as Gustave Le Bon noted in “The Crowd: A Study of the Public Mind,” those who supply the masses with the illusions they crave become their master, and “whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim.” This irrationality explains why the reaction of Israeli supporters to those who have the courage to speak the truth–Uri Avnery, Max Blumenthal, Noam Chomsky, Jonathan Cook, Norman Finkelstein, Amira Hass, Gideon Levy, Ilan Pappe, Henry Siegman and Philip Weiss–is so rabid. That so many of these voices are Jewish, and therefore have more credibility than non-Jews who are among Israel’s cheerleaders, only ratchets up the level of hate.
But the Big Lie is also consciously designed to send a chilling message to Gaza’s Palestinians, who have lost large numbers of their dwellings, clinics, mosques, and power, water and sewage facilities, along with schools and hospitals, who have suffered some 1,650 deaths since this assault began–most of the victims women and children–and who have seen 400,000 people displaced from their homes. The Big Lie makes it clear to the Palestinians that Israel will continue to wage a campaign of state terror and will never admit its atrocities or its intentions. The vast disparity between what Israel says and what Israel does tells the Palestinians that there is no hope. Israel will do and say whatever it wants. International law, like the truth, will always be irrelevant. There will never, the Palestinians understand from the Big Lie, be an acknowledgement of reality by the Israeli leadership.
The Israel Defense Forces website is replete with this black propaganda. “Hamas exploits the IDF’s sensitivity towards protecting civilian structures, particularly holy sites, by hiding command centers, weapons caches and tunnel entrances in mosques,” the IDF site reads. “In Hamas’ world, hospitals are command centers, ambulances are transport vehicles, and medics are human shields,” the site insists.
“… [Israeli] officers are tasked with an enormous responsibility: to protect Palestinian civilians on the ground, no matter how difficult that may be,” the site assures its viewers. And the IDF site provides this quote from a drone operator identified as Lt. Or. “I have personally seen rockets fired at Israel from hospitals and schools, but we couldn’t strike back because of civilians nearby. In one instance, we acquired a target but we saw that there were children in the area. We waited around, and when they didn’t leave we were forced to abort a strike on an important target.”
Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Ron Dermer, in a Big Lie of his own, said last month at a conference of Christians United for Israel that the Israeli army should be given the “Nobel Peace Prize … a Nobel Peace Prize for fighting with unimaginable restraint.”
The Big Lie destroys any possibility of history and therefore any hope for a dialogue between antagonistic parties that can be grounded in truth and reality. While, as Hannah Arendt pointed out, the ancient and modern sophists sought to win an argument at the expense of the truth, those who wield the Big Lie “want a more lasting victory at the expense of reality.” The old sophists, she said, “destroyed the dignity of human thought.” Those who resort to the Big Lie “destroy the dignity of human action.” The result, Arendt warned, is that “history itself is destroyed, and its comprehensibility.” And when facts no longer matter, when there is no shared history grounded in the truth, when people foolishly believe their own lies, there can be no useful exchange of information. The Big Lie, used like a bludgeon by Israel, as perhaps it is designed to be, ultimately reduces all problems in the world to the brutish language of violence.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/04/why-israel-lies

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 24 2025 18:28 utc | 388

Ceasefire in the Iranian/Israeli war, they say. If so, well done Trump!
Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 24 2025 17:07 utc | 345
He STARTED it !
That’s the problem , the US think they can end peace and start ceasefires whenever they want.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 18:28 utc | 389

@388
Who is less trustworthy US or Israel?
Did they wait 12 hours to begin bombing Lebanon after ceasefire?

Posted by: paddt | Jun 24 2025 18:33 utc | 390

Many very disappointed war fans…. perhaps ask for a refund.
The mutual theater of choreographed strikes against each other…. the only reason I can think of for that was the domestic situation in the Us, with the whitehouse being forced into war with Iran.
The fictional destruction of Iran’s nuclear potential removed this pressure. What has occurred could only be pulled off with all players being aware of what was occurring domestically in the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 24 2025 18:37 utc | 391

The whole “TACO” meme started on Wall Street as “TACO trades” during the tariff rollercoaster.
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2025/06/13/why-do-they-call-trump-taco-people-are-calling-what-is-taco-trade-trump-always-chickens-out-meaning/84169623007/
It wasn’t coined by “the left” or Democrats but the latter along with neocons have seemingly embraced it and IMO stupidly so when it comes to war.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 18:37 utc | 392

An African viewpoint: https://femiakogun.substack.com/p/the-hegemons-last-hurrah
A snippet:

Once more, the answer is grim in its emptiness. There is no coherent objective—just the smoldering fury of a collapsing empire and its ever-faithful belligerent satrap. The genocidal psychopaths in Occupied Palestine danced with joy, ditto their American counterparts. It matters little that many of them know nothing about Iran – watch how Tucker Carlson demolished US Senator Ted Cruz, who was touted as informed. The cretinous chihuahuas in the EU engaged in what they do best, issued hypocritical condemnation of Iran, and asked the country to return to negotiation. The hypocrisy of EUcrats is stunning. Iran never left the negotiating table. It was the West that left, shredded signed agreements, and prompted its attack dog in Jerusalem to assassinate Iranian negotiators, yet Europeans are parroting talking points from their American Overlords.
Let’s not deceive ourselves. Israel has never been a beacon of strategic patience or moral clarity. The crazed bloodlusting Zionist psychopaths are not Christians, most do not even believe in god, even though they believe that Jehovah promised them he land they occupy. It is ridiculous. The rabid Zionists are godless – they do not believe in any god, much the supposed son of a god.
Israel, like every colonial settlement in history, has always preferred blunt, unrestrained violence over diplomacy, bullets over dialogue. But at least in earlier decades, its warmongering had a certain logic, however twisted. This time, even that figment is gone. What is driving Netanyahu and his crazy ideological zealots? We shall never know.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 24 2025 18:38 utc | 393

How many emigres will, one, keep quiet about where they’re from, and two, once outed, will deny any/all support for the (former?) government?
The advantage of being an American is being exposed to a constant train of newcomers all intent on quickly becoming part of the ‘winning team’.
Posted by: Markw | Jun 24 2025 18:07 utc | 378
I wrote about this several threads before, that we will have to acquaint ourselves with those newcomers in our societies, be it Germany, Poland, Russia, France, Britain, USA of course, but central America, South America, Australia, New Zealand, maybe Spain and Portugal as well, and the countries of Maghreb.
The results of those ‘home-comings’ are unpredictable, with calls of ‘new-antisemitism’, new pogroms, new false, self-created destructions on Jewish cemeteries, etc etc etc… accusations of not being given the proper welcome. And lies, that “if we only knew, what Bibi did in Gaza” – that the official media will spread.
The truly innocent Israeli emigrees will be the real victims, but how will one be able to tell, if they were innocent?

Posted by: fanto | Jun 24 2025 18:39 utc | 394

I am surprised that the Israeli-Iranian war is perceived locally and not within the framework of the “Great Game”.If in the 19th and early 20th centuries the “Great Game” was played between Great Britain and Russia, due to Victorian hysteria that Russia threatened India and the Empire, today the “Great Game” is played between the USA and China.Thucydides’ Trap represents the US version of the “Great Game”. Thus, the Ukrainian-Russian conflict and the 2025 Indo-Pakistani and Israeli-Iranian conflicts are elements of America’s puzzle to destabilize, on the one hand, the Brics and its rise, and on the other hand, to dynamite China’s New Silk Road.Through the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, the US tried to pull Russia out of its relationship with China. What did Kissinger say about the Soviet-Russian-Chinese alliance?Basically, by forcing Ukraine into NATO, the US wanted to offer Russia an alternative, i.e. to apply the situation between Greece and Turkey. The rivalry was diluted within the US-led alliance.Putin’s reluctance to accept American supremacy led to war.Thus, America ended up in a proxy war with Russia, but the problem was China. The moment it became obvious that Russia could not be defeated militarily, economically, diplomatically, or culturally, the US changed its plan.The US has identified vulnerabilities on the Silk Road: Pakistan and Iran. The former with economic problems and in permanent conflict with India, the latter perceived as weakened after the fall of the Shiite Assad regime in Syria and the failure of Hezbollah in Lebanon.The US used India, which it had eliminated from Russian military imports, and threw it against Pakistan.When India was affected, Trump stepped in to save it. The same scenario happened with Israel in the war with Iran.If we also consider the US involvement in the conflicts in Nagorno Karabakh and Syria, we have the complete picture of the puzzle.In conclusion, the American Empire counterattacked the BRICS and their leaders at their weak points for the purpose of destabilization.New attacks through intermediaries are coming… The American political-military elite is having a hard time accepting the collapse of the Empire.

Posted by: surena | Jun 24 2025 18:46 utc | 395

Interesting stuff.
“U.S. Congresswoman Greene says JFK was “assassinated” for opposing Israel’s nuclear program in 1963″
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1937578591618793835#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 18:49 utc | 396

Trump hurt their feelings – I doubt these monsters (Zionists) have any.
“The Israeli leadership was stunned by President Trump’s public and scathing criticism of it and Iran.”
– NBC News, quoting unnamed senior Israeli officials”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 18:51 utc | 397

Do the Zionists (wealthy Jews) have many in the House on the pro-Israeli payroll? – if so Trump’s impeachment was never on the cards.
“House motion to impeach President Trump fails with only 79 members voting in favor”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 18:53 utc | 398

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 18:37 utc | 395
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Effective rhetoric transcends ideology and is multi-domain.
Left-right is an American obsession. I am unaware of any other country where the political divides occupy so much attention or focus.
It is, IMO, literally a psyop against the American people, which they compulsively participate in to hinder their political autonomy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 18:53 utc | 399

Give this man a Nobel!
https://x.com/aleksbrz11/status/1937576039200268510

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 18:54 utc | 400