Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 24, 2025
Tic-Toc 9 On The War On Iran

A ceasefire.

To be broken in 3, 2, 1 …

Added:

Patrick Armstrong

So, what have we learned?

  • Iran is a lot more powerful than many people thought.
  • Western air defence systems aren’t very effective.
  • Who knew those little Iranian lawnmower-engined dorito drones could get all the way to Israel?
  • Hypersonic missiles are invulnerable and very frightening.
  • Tehran now knows which missiles in its arsenal are most effective and which most effectively soak up the enemy’s air defence and will build accordingly
  • Tehran’s decision to follow the missile-based armament route is vindicated. Suvorov: “Fight the enemy with the weapons he lacks“; Sun Tsu: “avoid strength and strike weakness“. `Others will notice.
  • Israel has used up the sleeper cells and intelligence penetration that it had built up in Iran.

and

My predictions.

  • The damage in Israel will be much greater and much more effective than we have been told.
  • In Iran, not so much.

I agree.

Comments

Posted by: Nemesis | Jun 24 2025 13:50 utc | 196
Sorry, kiddos. But the laws of physics were put on indefinite hold exactly 23 years, 9 months and 13 days ago in lower Manhattan.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 13:58 utc | 201

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 24 2025 13:45 utc | 193
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Thanks for that background history.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 13:59 utc | 202

The USA never seeks peace. Never. The best you can hope for is that they walk away. Israel has never lost before or even had a stalemate before. And Israel has never taken damage like this. Given that, any ceasefire should just be considered as time for them to regroup. It is likely Iran still gets destroyed. They would first have to demonstrate they can do more damage to the USA bases (an incredible amount surround Iran) than the USA wants to sustain.

Posted by: Cheney | Jun 24 2025 14:01 utc | 203

Iran needs to keep doing what its doing – a ceasefire of any kind will only allow the Zionists to regroup and rearm – its doesn’t matter a hoot what Trump thinks he’s not on the ground defending – he’s thousands of miles away barking out orders.
It looks like Iran has the missiles to get the job done – the job is to defeat Israel, to the point that its begging to get around the negotiating table – I think that day isn’t as far away as most people think – Netanyahu will need to get the USA back into the fray big time – if Israel has any chance to if not stop at least reduce the missiles coming into the occupied lands.
Next, Netanyahu will turn to Europe and Britain to help it defend Israel – or Trumps Zionist backers will put more pressure on him to attack Iran – however I don’t Iran will be as easy to breakdown as Libya or Syria – I’m hoping the Zionist have bitten-off more than they can chew with their illegal attack on Iran.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 14:03 utc | 204

Folks keep calling it a 12-day ‘Iran-Israel’ war!?
I suggest Two Weeks to Flatten Tel Aviv
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 13:44 utc | 192
The dirty dozen?

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 24 2025 14:03 utc | 205

>>>>>>>>>> Posted by: Darras | Jun 24 2025 13:22 utc | 175 <<<<<<<<<< Only problem with your theory is, Where is the body? Muslims treat it as sacred. Iran would have had to announce the death as 'natural causes' so as not to stir the pot. Same as what they did with Ebrahim Raisi, down play the assassination to avert war. Not sure if this is a NEW Strategy by certain countries. What would happen if Putin or Trump was taken out by either side?

Posted by: RoB | Jun 24 2025 14:04 utc | 206

It is FAR from truth, Israel never fought on its OWN, unlike Iran.
Full backing and support of US/UK/FR/GR
Posted by: RoB | Jun 24 2025 13:36 utc | 186
All these emo bitches whining about “Iran’s defeat” fail to realise that Iran fought the combined might and intelligence of the entire West and prevailed.
They are the first nation in Western Asia to come under such a combined assault of technology, brute force, terrifying psychological force, from within and without and prevail.
The know now from direct experience what other nations have yet to learn.
They have transcended.
Their enemies have been confounded.
For all their vaunted might, their technological and civilizational “superiority”, they foundered and flailed against a rock – literally and figuratively.
Iran Zindabad!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 14:05 utc | 207

Who’d believe Trump – not me.
“Donald Trump: I do not want to see regime change in Iran. Regime change creates chaos”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 14:07 utc | 208

IIRC Khamenei publicly stepped aside a few days ago by delegating his power to the religious body whose name I don’t recall at the moment. So no drama in it, just adjustment.

Posted by: Avtonom | Jun 24 2025 14:09 utc | 209

Israel has suffered more damage than we think.
“German reporter:
Israel only allowed us to show damages to residual buildings. Complete censorship about Iran strikes on military bases made people think Iran only targeted cities.”
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1937513245436461349#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 14:12 utc | 210

Iran was in such a strong position it should have said…
No ceasefire until Gazza is free from Israeli troops and Israel stops bombing the Gazza strip and allows foreign aid in.
Rather than allow the Witkoff plan for peace unfold.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 14:13 utc | 211

https://twitter.com/i/status/1936891796367536238
Brilliant 3 minute synopsis of Iran vs Israel.
Sorry if already posted.

Posted by: morongobill | Jun 24 2025 14:14 utc | 212

SFSN

Posted by: Exile | Jun 24 2025 14:16 utc | 213

Already over 200 mostly news free posts on the new thread while people debate what happen over the past 2 weeks. Remarkable that in this internet/social media age the truth is as elusive as ever and fog of war still so effective. While there is some hard information available it is very difficult to construct a reliable overall narrative. Have to watch the behavior of the actors going forward to see what happened in the past. Reminds me of 9/11 when events occurred as we watched, and then facts and observations quickly became buried in the dust and debris, to be replaced with ‘narratives’sung repeatedly, like top 40 singles.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 14:18 utc | 214

Iran was in such a strong position it should have said…
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 14:13 utc | 214
Nobody is in a strong position here.
Nobody.
From Russia to China, from Yankeeland to occupied Palestine, Iran to Yemen – everyone is bleeding from the ass.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 14:19 utc | 215

Israel is not going to stop attacking Iran. And Israel, as the US proxy in this war, will have to fight until it is exhausted. Just like Ukraine.
Relevant analysis from Mohammad Marandi and Taleb Ibrahim:
https://www.rt.com/news/619530-if-iran-falls-we-all-lose/
‘They want regime change’
According to Marandi, Israel’s true objective lies far beyond neutralizing a nuclear threat.
“It’s always been so-called regime change,” he said. “Whether it’s the Israeli regime or the Americans or the Europeans. That’s how they are. They don’t want independent countries, and especially countries like Iran, which support the Palestinian cause.”
Syrian analyst Taleb Ibrahim, a longtime commentator on Iranian affairs and an author of several books on the Islamic Republic, agrees that Western powers – particularly the United States – are pursuing a broader geopolitical agenda.
“If the United States will put its hands on Iran again [like it was before 1979],” Ibrahim told RT, “they will block the Russian southern wall. This means that Russia will not be able to expand its influence beyond the Caspian Sea. And it will be restricted to a very narrow place between Central Asia and the Arctic.”
Ibrahim warns that China, too, would suffer consequences from a weakened Iran. “China will not be able to reach the Middle East. Because if Iran becomes part of the Western bloc, it will sever China’s access. And the most important thing of all – a new world order will emerge. It will be a new American world order.”
Ibrahim believes this is not a regional conflict, but part of a sweeping strategy to restore American hegemony.
“To make America great again is to regain American control across the globe. The war in Iran is just a chapter in that plan.”

Posted by: Clever Dog | Jun 24 2025 14:19 utc | 216

What has stopped?
One fight on one front. And even that may not last.
This buys Trump and the West to exterminate Gaza and the West Bank
I do not cheer the score until a game is over.
Does everyone really think AIPAC is going to let things go?
Randy Fine?
Lutnick? Witkoff?
Mark Levin?
Ben Shapiro?
The US cannot be trusted. Until the US can locate the “missing” uranium they will keep slaughtering Palestinians.
Trump has become erratic and unhinged. I would be much more concerned than celebratory.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 14:24 utc | 217

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 24 2025 14:12 utc | 213
That poor woman will be needing a new job soon if the IOF doesn’t “accidentally” snipe her.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 14:24 utc | 218

Iran needs AD replacement and signals cooperation from Russia pronto. Will they get it? What was discussed and agreed in Moscow? Will Iran now quickly move to secretly build/acquire a nuke? Will the explusion of the Palestinians from Gaza continue to it’s conclusion? Will Bibi go down in flames? Or rise again like a phoenix?

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 14:24 utc | 219

@ Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 14:18 utc | 217
I’d love to post some actual news, but I’ve been unable to find it. No reliable assessments of the physical damage done in either Iran or Israel. I can believe the reports on injuries and deaths reported in Iran, but not the reports from Israel. And conflicting claims on Iran’s missile strike against the US base in Qatar, though I’m inclined to believe that several Iranian missiles hit their targets, as intended.
Think I’ll go for a walk outside to clear my head.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Jun 24 2025 14:27 utc | 220

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 10:18 utc | 13 Ti-tac 9 oe War on Iran
The absolute truth is the regime change operation failed. Just like in Ukraine the Americans failed to
<= I am not sure Regime changing Netanyohu has yet failed? my comment to B's commentatory - Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences oe War On Iran The main enemy of Iran is still Israel.<= I think the main enemy of Iran are the wealthy oligarchs and the political and military leaders who are executing the commands made by wealthy oligarchs and their corporate CEOs? Multinational corporations are powerful unbeatable expressions of Oligarch wealth. Representative examples are the British royalty, its City of London corporate and financial crowds, Wall Street, HK markets, the multinational corporations doing business in most places in the world. I call them the economic cartel (EC). The EC have joined hands to use the nation state system of governments as vectors to not only legalize overrule lawful, constitutional, protected human rights, and to engage unopposed in take-over behaviors but also to use those governments to force taxpayers to fund the military and its industrial complexes so it will always be available to the EC. Iran, like the people of the rest of the world, is a victim to that collaborative wealth extracting mafia. Until Trump, those in charge at Israel and USA were armed proxies in service to that Economic cartel. These once competing commercial powers have discovered competition is too much trouble and way to unprofitable so they have decided to take charge of everything. As a consequence they are now in control of most of the political leadership and financial wealth in the entire world. like a mafia would, they kill off and take over whatever they want no matter the cost in human life or tax payer resources. All national governments not yet victims of that economic cartel (mafia) are targeted to soon be taken over. The EC insists all people and all things in the world belong to them. Anyone who gets in the way will get his or her knee cap destroyed (as just happened with Iran) and snuffed out. The leaders of the governments and the corporations that control them are completely out of control of the people. The EC owns, controls or licenses substantially all of the means of production. All competitive resistance is unlicensed; if harm does not block the competition then Al Capone's men step in. The main enemy to Iran is not Israel. Iran's main enemy is enemy to the rest of the world as well. Our constitutions, our right to self determination and treaties that have kept international peace, etc. have been rendered, by those now in power, meaningless to our civilization, our courts as places to render competitive justice are laughing stocks, our laws are liberty restrictive and the police that enforce those laws militarized, our access to government blocked by the digital moat that surrounds government, and so on. Posted by: dan | Jun 23 2025 16:25 utc | 4 MoA - Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences Of The War On Iran if Iran fires missiles at empty USA bases in Qatar Uae then this is more fiction story kabuki. <= Not fiction, probably part of Trumps plan? A deal to contain the war to Iran-Israel real estate.. we silence the claim you have nuclear weapons up by lightly bombing the places they claim you are making nukes, vacate our bases so you can lightly attack them, and then back off: As the war continues Israel will force Netanyohu to step down. Within hours after Trump bombed Iran, I posted this idea go back and look.. Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 23 2025 16:39 utc | 15 MoA - Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences Of The War On Iran Iran has major incentives to localize the conflict strictly to Israel. Netanyahu needs the US and NATO to take all measures to -quickly- destroy Iran, including nuclear ones. <=exactly, I posted since the day of the bombing.. lightly bombing Iran, allowing a pittance reprisal by Iran against USA assets, allowed Trump to butt-fuck Netanyahu and to encourage Iran to help Trump eliminate Isreal from USA politics. https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2022/10/31/un-vote-israel-nuclear-weapons/ MoA – Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences of War On Iran
UN votes 152 to 5 telling Israel to get rid of its nuclear weapons
<==the USA never wanted Israel to have nuclear weapons.. this goes back to Kennedy.. by: As-I-see-it | Jun 23 2025 23:06 utc | 403 MoA - Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences oe War On Iran President Trump Announced Iran and Israel Ceasefire. <=exactly the agreement between Trump and Iran I discussed on the day Trump bombed Iran.. go look..In my discussion on that day I said the give away was Pakistan's nomination of Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. go look.. by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 2:04 utc | 589 Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences oe War On Iran I doubt, the Jewish Nation has it in them to abide by ANY ceasefire, as they never in their history have. <=Without Netanyohu's regime being changed you are probably right. I believe Trump's plan for Israel is Netanyohu? https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/24/750092/iran-says-powerful-military-response-forced-israel-halt-aggression-unilaterally
by: Stine | Jun 24 2025 2:38 utc | 623 Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences oe War On Iran
Bibi is ,, forced to go along. this would have turned out much different if Iran had not turned Israel’s Iron dome into Swiss cheese.”
<=see https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/24/750092/iran-says-powerful-military-response-forced-israel-halt-aggression-unilaterally but I think it also took Trump’s plan.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 24 2025 3:29 utc | 702 Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences oe War On Iran Surprised Netanyahu caved so quickly. 10s of thousands of IDF reservists voting with their feet….
<=Regime change in Israel an outcome? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 3:36 utc | 711 Proliferation, Retaliation, And Other Consequences oe War On Iran.. Netanyahu is a dead man walking. <= I agree.. Trump planned it that way.. https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/24/750092/iran-says-powerful-military-response-forced-israel-halt-aggression-unilaterally

Posted by: snake | Jun 24 2025 14:27 utc | 221

Posted by: Clever Dog | Jun 24 2025 14:27 utc | 223
See RepublicOfScotland video post above. The ziobastards are massively censoring damage reports.
Iran may be too but for entirely different reasons.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 14:29 utc | 222

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 24 2025 11:26 utc | 66
Good comment, good digging.
Thanks for that.
The 60% Uranium is missing because it was never there.
That won’t stop it being a casus belli, natch.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 24 2025 14:29 utc | 223

One commentator here spoke about the PAX AMERICANA and the PAX HEBRAICA. That reminds me of the muslim theologian and escatologist Imram Hosein from the Caraibes. You will find his interviews on Youtube all over the internet now. He reads in the hadiths from the time of the prophet about the three “northern” empires in the end time. The end time is not the end of the planet but the end of a world we have known from our education, it is the time of the rise of the dualist (ancient Persia) and monotheist religions, the rise of globalisation, colonisation and in the last centuries or so the subversion of the religions from within more than from without, the advent of nihilism and materialism.
The three empires are described as a few centuries, a few decades (less than a century) and the last one in terms of years. The first such empire looks like the British Empire which covered a few centuries, the second one as the American Empire, which started around 1913 with the foundation of the FED enabling the US to fund world wars. The end came around 2001 with 911 and the neocon ziocon takeover of the deep state whichever party is in charge.
The third one is the zionist empire which was boosted by the holocaust “credit” of Israel, incessant guilt feelings of western populations and the increasing mind control through MSM, education curricula etc. It is the most volatile of the three empires, it is based not so much on something tangible like colonial trade but more on bank speculation, fictitious currencies, AI and surveillance high tech.
The third empire stabs the second one (US) in the back by subverting the dollar value through compleling it to endless wars and militarisation.
Why does Imram Hosein believe this empire will be short lived? The PAX HEBRAICA of course is the opposite of a peace period, it is a total upside down world. Israel has “the right to defend itself” against the country it attacks. We hear all the time this orwellian newspeak.
It seems to me the Friday 13th military operation was a desperate gamble to get the Yinoh plan, the destruction and balkanization of the Middle East on track again. That was always the plan since the 1980ies, Greater Israel ruling over the Middle East through destruction of states and cooption of treacherous leaders. In this way it would rule over the world, Jerusalem world capital as Attali said. They have the West in their pocket and even Russia is dependent since 10000s of Russian and Soviet engineers have migrated to Israel and control high tech companies and start-ups also in Russia.
But still the tides are shifting, it is significant that they underestimated Iran so much despite their James Bond campaigns.
I do not know about influence in China or Africa but there is a significant zionist ally in India, the “hindutva”. Hosein makes the point that the Indian-Pakistani conflict has to be understood in this light. The terrorists were activated by Mossad in order to test the Indian and Pakistani strengths. They wanted to see what Pakistan could bring if it sided with Iran. The test was not decisive, but Pakistan did somewhat better than expected (with Chinese tech) and India somewhat less than expected. That is what Kashmiri people practically all believe, this attack was activated by foreign secret services for such purposes.

Posted by: Teraspol | Jun 24 2025 14:30 utc | 224

Trump to the Rescue (In a matter of speaking)
CBS News
Trump says Iran-Israel ceasefire in effect after both sides violated it

President Trump voiced frustration with Israel and Iran on Tuesday morning after the Middle East’s arch rivals indicated they were complying with an apparent ceasefire agreement he announced just hours earlier, but Israel then accused Iran of launching more missiles and vowed to retaliate. Mr. Trump said both countries had violated the terms, and he demanded that Israel recall warplanes and not “drop those bombs.”
It was unclear whether Israel had already dispatched any jets to carry out new strikes on Iran, but Mr. Trump spoke after the Israeli defense chief said he had ordered further attacks on Tehran.
The U.S. president, after reportedly speaking directly with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on the phone, then posted a message on his social network declaring that Israel “is not going to attack Iran. All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly ‘Plane Wave’ to Iran. Nobody will be hurt, the Ceasefire is in effect! Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
Link to CBS via Yahoo News:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-says-iran-violating-ceasefire-085210501.html
Whew, that was close. Trump was quick to respond after learning from the White House News Pool that Israel was sending aeroplains (Trump Speak) to Iran.
Remember Boys and Girls, in the great words of past truth tellers, “Everything you know is wrong!”

Posted by: MRDMK | Jun 24 2025 14:33 utc | 225

Only Trump could shamelessly take American defeat and sell it as a Nobel bid. And the American people will believe it. Priceless.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 14:37 utc | 226

As Israeli airspace reopens, Israel plans to limit the number of persons on outbound flights to 50.
https://x.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1937472624763797625
Lets see if they manage to do that.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 14:37 utc | 227

sorry, no the Shia won’t freak out if the Ayatollah is killed. They glorify martyrdom. And, the Ayatollah is a position, not a person. The Catholic Church wasn’t toppled when Francis died. Seriously, y’all know little about, Islam, Islamic just war, Iranian culture, Persian culture/identity. The rules aren’t that elaborate, but Muslims care about those rule, not the CIA/Mossad mercenary cells that adopt “Islamic” names.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 24 2025 14:40 utc | 228

Folks keep calling it a 12-day ‘Iran-Israel’ war!?
. . .
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 24 2025 14:03 utc | 208
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I think it was Trump who decided to dub “the war” with that name.
It is to be hoped that it reminds the non-brain-dead of the “Six-Day War,” which was when the attack on the USS Liberty took place.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 14:40 utc | 229

Iran was in such a strong position it should have said…
No ceasefire until Gazza is free from Israeli troops and Israel stops bombing the Gazza strip and allows foreign aid in.
Rather than allow the Witkoff plan for peace unfold.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 14:13 utc | 214
I agree! Seriously you want a ceasefire with two enemies who have launched unprovoked sneak attacks? How’d that ceasefire work out for Syria?
I can’t believe the Iranians could be so gullible. I hate to think what malignant influence the moderates are having on foreign policy.

Posted by: EoinW | Jun 24 2025 14:40 utc | 230

Thomas Keith quoted bellow.
By the way, defense treaty with RF would constraint Iran versus genocidal entity, would come with conditions. We all know about Putin & israel loving relationship, forbidden topic in Russia.
” Iran emerged bloodied yet unbroken, Beijing took notes, and the 25-Year Strategic Partnership shifts from memorandum to muscle. The strategic logic is lined up, China needs a West Asian node that can absorb blows and keep U.S. power tied down, while Iran needs hardware that turns survival into overmatch, so integration is not speculative; it’s already rolling under the radar. HQ-16s have begun replacing antiquated SAM belts; HQ-22/FK-3 batteries sit in bonded warehouses, ready to knit a layered dome over uranium hubs and missile assembly corridors once the paperwork is stamped “civilian air-safety upgrade.” BeiDou receivers slide into Zolfaghar and Dezful guidance loops, trimming CEP from 30-50 m to sub-15. CETC spoofers and Huawei/iFlytek edge boards patch every hole Israel just mapped, rerouting data through a Mandarin-speaking kill chain that Western SIGINT can’t parse in real time.
The drone front deepens faster. Shaheds are already flying with Chinese optics; next come rebadged CH-4/Wing Loong airframes, swarm-mesh logic lifted from PLA playbooks, and SAR pods that see through dust and blackout. Low-orbit BeiDou sync frees every bird from GPS chokeholds, while co-tasked satellites funnel target packets straight into IRGC launch consoles. Once missile brigades, drone hives, and new SAM grids share the same BeiDou clock, Iran operates as a self-healing, satellite-linked strike complex whose telemetry flows back to Chinese dev teams, live combat data without a single PLA casualty.
Plausibility isn’t the question; pace is. The partnership already covers defense, cyber, and intelligence under the 2021 accord; Iran runs Chinese C802 missiles and JY-10 radars today; BeiDou modules plug in like USB sticks; and Beijing’s export shell firms can route every shipment through Karachi or Central Asia with deniable paperwork. Political risk to China is minimal, air defense and counter-drone tech pass as “regional stability,” and U.S. protest rings hollow after the latest Israeli raid. On the doctrinal side, both states preach asymmetric saturation, AI-driven ISR, and proxy leverage, making firmware alignment almost effortless.
The bottom line is Israel proved Iran doesn’t have a glass jaw; China now supplies the brass knuckles. Phase I ground hardening is underway, Phase II airborne autonomy is loading, and Phase III stack fusion will close the loop. The pace depends only on how quietly they want to move, not on whether it will happen, because every incentive, every compatibility layer, and every political smoke screen is already in place. end quote

Posted by: stranger | Jun 24 2025 14:40 utc | 231

IMHO it’s much too early to say that either side won. For Iran to win, it would need to acquire decent AD and extirpate any trace of the shit ton of subversives (Mossad, MEK, Azeri and Kurdish separatists, etc.) infesting its body politic — and IMHO acquire nukes as well.
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 24 2025 11:50 utc | 86
I disagree. Iran didn’t attack Israel … their only “objective” was to survive.
The objective of Israels attack was regime change and the elimination of Iran’s nuclear program. They failed regime change and failed to do anything more than disrupt the iranian nuclear program. That’s a loss.
I doubt the IDF had planned to take a shit kicking from Iranian missiles so the fact that the USA had to step in with a hundred million dollar piece of theater to keep Israel from being obliterated long before the stated 2 week Israeli air operation was finished and declare peace is another loss for Israel.
When you don’t achieve what you set out to achieve it’s a failure.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 24 2025 14:44 utc | 232

As Israeli airspace reopens, Israel plans to limit the number of persons on outbound flights to 50.
https://x.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1937472624763797625
Lets see if they manage to do that.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 14:37 utc | 230
Limiting emigration – or trying to – is the typical mark of a failing state.
In an earlier time they would have used capital controls, but for various reasons that is not so easy these days, unless things get really extreme.
Egypt (Sharm-El-Sheikh) and Jorden (Aqaba) remain other getaway routes by air.

Posted by: Harbin | Jun 24 2025 14:44 utc | 233

The Trump dick-riding on this app (Twitter) is off the charts. Not just bot spam—actual accounts with working thumbs pushing the same crusty fairytale: “Peace President Trump.”
Get the fuck outta here.
This dude greenlit genocide, lied through his teeth, helped Israel plan the hit, and bombed a sovereign nation—all while grinning for the cameras like a used car salesman. That ain’t peace. That’s full-blown Shabbat goy behavior.
And don’t act like this is new. He pulled this same scam in round one: ripped up JCPOA—the only deal that actually capped enrichment—and then used the fallout he caused to justify bombing Iran in round two. The strike? Planned months ahead. Trump bragged about it.
This was never about nukes. Iran never wanted a bomb.
They wanted to trade enrichment for sanctions relief.
The U.S.? They wanted regime change.
And they failed—hard.
Here’s the receipts:
– Iran’s government is now more popular than ever
– Enrichment is still rolling, this time without IAEA snooping
– U.S. and Israeli spy networks are getting rolled up live
– Tel Aviv’s skyline got rearranged
– Mossad’s boss is six feet under
– IDF’s cyber team got fried
– Israeli R&D sites faceplanted into concrete
– And the Iron Dome? Bleeding interceptors and choking on pressure
So now Trump’s pulling the “peace” mask out of the drawer because the Iron Dome’s gas tank is on E. Interceptors are running dry, hit rates are tanking, and Iranian missiles are about to fly unopposed. Which means: leverage gone, bluff called, mask off. It’s not peace. It’s panic.
And if that sounds familiar—it should. It’s Ukraine and Syria all over again.
When the empire’s losing, it begs for time. Pause. Regroup. Reload. Finish the job later.
Trump? Fully bought and paid for.
He exists as a “free man” because Israeli money keept the walls from closing in.
Congress? Fully colonized by AIPAC.
Palantir got the keys to your data to police “antisemitism.”
DOJ tweets that bad customer service for Jews equals jail time.
Foreign students now need a Zionist loyalty score to get a visa.
So let’s cut the shit.
Trump ain’t neutral.
He ain’t anti-war.
He ain’t misunderstood.
He’s a kosher sock puppet in a red tie, and anyone pushing this peace cosplay is either bought, brain-dead, or huffing orange fumes until their neurons melt.

https://x.com/DlugajJuly/status/1937498718212591959

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 14:45 utc | 234

I would like to see the terms of the ceasefire and see if Iran thought of the Palestinians at all.
They were in a position to demand many things.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 14:45 utc | 235

@ snake | Jun 24 2025 14:27 utc | 224
you’ve always been a thoughtful and considerate poster here at moa… thanks for that… i liked what you had to say here as well.. it too resonates with me… thanks..
“The main enemy to Iran is not Israel. Iran’s main enemy is enemy to the rest of the world as well. Our constitutions, our right to self determination and treaties that have kept international peace, etc. have been rendered, by those now in power, meaningless to our civilization, our courts as places to render competitive justice are laughing stocks, our laws are liberty restrictive and the police that enforce those laws militarized, our access to government blocked by the digital moat that surrounds government, and so on.”

Posted by: james | Jun 24 2025 14:46 utc | 236

If you haven’t figured it out yet, the reason Iran was/is reluctant to accept Russian AD systems is, most likely, that these systems come with a Russian kill switch and/or veto on their use.
Saint Vladimir the Little would of course in a situation where he has to decide between Iran and Israel, choose the later, (((tribal))) asset that he is…

Posted by: Simpleton | Jun 24 2025 14:47 utc | 237

RE: When you don’t achieve what you set out to achieve it’s a failure.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 24 2025 14:44 utc | 235
Agreed, especially when the objective and only goal was:
“Bend the knee..”
Iran won.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 24 2025 14:47 utc | 238

My belief is he thinks the Jews, being Jews, will break the cease-fire, and he will then let them twist in the wind for a few days or weeks, blaming them for breaking his truce. Only when Bibi is sufficiently humbled and comes back hat in hand, will Trump act, and I don’t think Trump will ever try to start an actual shooting war. He will again try to find a peaceful solution that he can claim is his, declare victory, and walk away, leaving an unresolved situation for the next Prez.
Posted by: FrankDrakman | Jun 24 2025 12:08 utc | 110

Plausible prediction (perhaps because most here would like to see it happen) but it requires willing complicity from Iran, which is not guaranteed to be forthcoming if radical factions assert superiority.
We shall see.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 24 2025 14:50 utc | 239

Posted by: stranger | Jun 24 2025 14:40 utc | 234
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Your writing feels like a cross between William Gibson and Tom Clancy. I’m going to have to look up a bunch of Chinese weaponry now.
Very well written.

Posted by: john brewster | Jun 24 2025 14:51 utc | 240

Clever Dog | Jun 24 2025 14:19 utc | 219
Duh? Once more: $USD = MIC = Energy
If US/GB geologists hadn’t discovered the first mega fields around Basra in late 1908, one, the Ottomans wouldn’t have been targeted in WW1, and two, Israel wouldn’t exist.
But they were – with discoveries of other super giants following – which made establishing and defending a garrison similar to Dhekelia a critical western priority.
For proof, look no further than how the western ME footprint has expanded all the way to Iran’s border starting from a few small outposts in the levant.
Hopefully we’ll start seeing more reasoned analysis like the article linked above. Remember, none of this is personal, just business.
Personalizing zionism is simply allowing yourself to be manipulated by the masters who designed and are executing the grand game.
It’s about energy, not some supposed chosen people.

Posted by: Markw | Jun 24 2025 14:52 utc | 241

🇮🇷🇷🇺🇮🇱🇺🇸🚨‼️ Lavrov says IAEA wants to know where the enriched uranium is, because they want to strike it again and are upset.

video
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1937459254849327347

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 14:53 utc | 242

Posted by: james | Jun 24 2025 14:46 utc | 239
Gives Trump way too much deference but agree with snake’s main point. Trump does not have the philosopher king mentality or intellectual undergirding to match snake’s assessment of his alleged motives and nobody else who’s been allowed to stay in his near orbit does either.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 14:54 utc | 243

DJT apparently ordered Bibi to abort the last IDF F 35 strike mission in mid flight as they approached the Syrian – Iraq border line.
Bibi being the crazed outlier as usual……
Apparently the C4i HQ at Beersheba was hammered in the very last Iranian ballistic missile strike….payback was a bitch!

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 24 2025 14:54 utc | 244

Re: 12 day war
Is it more accurate to say Israel is two pump chump?
Can you imagine what Israel would look like if the conflict was 4 weeks long?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 14:55 utc | 245

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 14:45 utc | 237
Nailed it !
But it will be non stop Trump is a hero played 10D chess and brought peace.
Especially by these people who haven’t a brain cell between them.
Here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm_bvSkVqLE
PMSL!! It’s hilarious…
A monkey in a suit could become President of the United States as long as it believed in Jesus.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 14:55 utc | 246

@Sun Of Alabama | Tue, 24 Jun 2025 10:18:00 GMT | 13

… these [reasons] are enough to show the propaganda that Trump cut a deal with Iran to isolate Bibi is bogus. The absolute truth is the regime change operation failed.

Then explain why Fordow was attacked inconsequentially, as was al-Udeid in return. Your theory has problems even if we go with “U2 over Iran” story (which is most likely a fantasy).
All five of your points can be argued about differently. For example the mock targets in Israel are by some reasoning simply standard military procedure to prepare for future warfare. No one here has denied USrael wants Iran down, to be sure.
I believe that USrael teamed up to pull this off, but when it became clear that their choice of “path to Persia” had failed, Bibi was ready to throw the US under the bus to save his own skin. Trump reacted with a judo move and then could literally only pray all sides would accept the outcome and go with his ceasefire. I imagine this to be more a clash of egos than a gamed-out military strategy. You don’t send every movable warfighting asset to the Gulf when things are already fixed.
Now we see the war being prolongued, and the main question for USrael in the background is how best to continue the agenda. There are but two choices: go on now, or go in again later. This is the point of contention.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 24 2025 14:57 utc | 247

Stranger@234 14:40 utc
Interesting, if true. Pace of reconstitution is key, and the ability of damaged command and government structures to implement it.
Boots in the ground war has been replaced with saboteurs and cyber warfare coordinated with stand-off weapon attacks.
The ‘spider web’ ploy is difficult to repeat on same turf, like the pager attack. Beligerants rush to see if AI can be turned into real-world tactical advantage and used to leverage rapidly evolving drone technology.
The Russia-Ukraine conflict is boots on the ground solely due the the physical proximity of the combatants.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 14:57 utc | 248

Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 24 2025 12:15 utc | 117
Don’t feel too bad, but we all need more discernment.
I’ve lost count of how many alt-media ‘analysts’ have parroted the story about the altercation between Ben Gvir and Bar-Lev, who allegedly said in Hebrew ‘we didn’t realise Iran had such good rockets’.
It was readily debunked as having occured in 2022 on a totally different subject.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 24 2025 14:57 utc | 249

Posted by: john brewster | Jun 24 2025 14:51 utc | 243
He’s quoting Thomas Keith, a prominent geopolitical commentator associated with DD Geopolitics online, and a ‘person’ often suspected of using “AI” to generate those admittedly compelling summaries.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 14:58 utc | 250

Stranger, Iran doesn’t need to Ground harden, they’ve been doing that all along. We’re not really factoring that in. Iran knew they’d be subject to Air attack, they never presumed they’d control the airspace.
Tom Q will appreciate this, trying to assess who won, if this were a wrestling match it would be 2-2 after the first period, Israel scored 2 pts for a takedown, Iran got the reversal. Israel has no chance to pin Iran, Iran can takedown Israel (with missiles) but can’t pin. Biggest tell, Israel is gasping for air, Iran is focused and starting on top. Doubt this will last two whole rounds

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 24 2025 15:00 utc | 251

Regardless of how long this lasts, the West has been exposed, again.
No air defenses. No capacity to invade.
This will be one of those forgotten moments in history that telegraphed the truth.
The West is filled with psychopaths who will carry on but their dream (fantasies) of global domination received the second big refutation in the last decade. Russia too was supposed to collapse and have a regime change.
Now, try not to laugh, it’s China’s turn.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 15:04 utc | 252

@too scents | Jun 24 2025 13:41 utc
too scents: tks for fin mkt reports. Very helpful. What’s your take on the price of oil declining? Did you expect that, and if you did, why were your expectations not met (yet)?
Did the Bar notice that the dollar has lost about 15% of its value v.s. other currencies since beginning of the year?
That’s painful. Imports cost 15% more without considering tariffs, etc.
That has to be on the minds of econ & commercial leaders. The expense of war isn’t just showing up in the debt numbers, it’s on the daily import bill that big corps pay. Costs must be transmitted to consumers, and consumers didn’t get a 15% raise this January.
Political pressure is building.
=== On to the subject of “what’s a little guy to do?”
America: It’s either sacrifice yourselves on the rich people’s altar of global domination, or protect your family. MAGA is the right idea, so make it stick.
“Congressman: get us out of these wars, or I vote against you. If I see you taking AIPAC money, I vote against you.”
“Dear Republican party: MAGA is a good idea, but you suck at implementing it. War and MAGA are incompatible. I’ve figured that out. Get with it, or I vote you out”.
“Dear Citizens: We need a third party that’s credible. I have $500 I’ve budgeted for campaign contributions. Will you put aside some money too and support a 3rd party?”
Also: “I have budgeted $200 for Thomas Massie’s re-election campaign. America: _we want this guy to win_. He ‘gets it'”
To Thomas Massie: get a bumper sticker made, and sell it for $2 on your website: “Not a dime for Israel”.
I promise to buy 100 of them and pass them out to friend and foe alike.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 24 2025 15:05 utc | 253

I actually considered Donald crazy and detached from reality. I’ll scratch the latter.
And if methodical madness leads to preventing an escalation of the conflict, well, so be it.
I can’t stop grinning when I imagine how mad orange chews out Netanyahu. Because when it comes to Trump’s personal peace project, Donald takes it personally. Two strong warring parties kept in check by tweets and calls. And both say “Yes, sir” and pledge improvement.
This world-saving situational comedy is giving me more joy than anything has in a long time.
So far, the tail has been wagging the dog, and Israel, with the support of the Israel lobby, could get away with anything. But that seems to be changing now. After all, it’s the USA that provides Israel with money and weapons, and if Donald turns off the tap, the air’s out of the balloon.

Posted by: Johann von Oberndorf | Jun 24 2025 15:06 utc | 254

Limiting emigration is the typical mark of a failing state.
Harbin | Jun 24 2025 14:44 utc | 236
Good point. Now, try and think a few steps further.
Let’s remind ourselves of Henry the Ks observation that “America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests”.
OK, Israel suffers a damaging population exodus, sufficient to weaken their effectiveness as a western outpost.
What do we do? Come on, I know you’re thinking what I’m thinking … (and no, not a return of the shah, rather a wonderful liberal Muslim state like Turkey). Win win win.
Lol – this is why you guys need to stop personalizing zionism. Israel is a western tool, one that can/will be discarded if it stops delivering value in the service of our strategic interests.

Posted by: Markw | Jun 24 2025 15:08 utc | 255

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 14:54 utc | 246
thanks.. i wasn’t thinking of what snake said about trump.. i was overlooking all that..
there is a possibility this ceasefire will indeed hold… maybe not forever… trump has to be given some credit here as i see it..

Posted by: james | Jun 24 2025 15:08 utc | 256

A monkey in a suit could become President of the United States as long as it believed in Jesus.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 14:55 utc | 249
~~~~~~~~~~
Isn’t it funny and disingenuous how they do that? I have become sick of it after too many centuries. I’ve decided to put an end to it, in a resounding way. Ultimately.
It brings up a problem for me, in that may people become confused as to what I am and what I stand for. I am not to be used by those who want a stamp of approval – for which I did not approve! It brings up a fundamental debate about the origins and foundation of the nation, United States; and it’s current Federal government. i.e. corporation UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
They all want to have the Christian consituency and manipulate the populace, like the sheeple that they are. It is alright to be sheep, as long as there is the real shepherd.
These monkeys as you call them, are false shepherds. I want a moratorium on their usage of my Brand Name. It won’t be tolerated anymore.
The War is just starting to get interesting. Trust me on that.

Posted by: JesusChrist Official | Jun 24 2025 15:10 utc | 257

🇮🇷 Iran parliament are discussing on a bill to ban Grossi, head of International Atomic Agency, entrance to Iran

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 15:10 utc | 258

Mario | Jun 24 2025 12:35 utc | 134
Even the msm occasionally tells the truth. I believe it when they tell me Iran have settled, because the oil price has fallen.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 13:02 utc | 158

Second this.
Easier still, just keep an eye on the price of petrol (gasoline)/diesel at your local filling station.
It seems to be more sensitive to geo-political shock than crude profits gonna profit after all.
Throughout the last 6 months, irrespective of what has happened in Ukraine or Iran it has barely flinched, rather it has gently drifted downward.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 24 2025 15:11 utc | 259

Posted by: Markw | Jun 24 2025 15:08 utc | 258
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Thanks for the Neocon perspective.
It’s why you’re destined to lose.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 15:11 utc | 260

re: Tom Pfotzer, 15:05UTC:
Correction. Should have said:
“Did you expect oil prices to rise, and if you did, why were your expectations not met (yet)?”
oops.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 24 2025 15:12 utc | 261

@250 persiflo
“…explain why Fordow was attacked inconsequentially”
Many possibilities (assuming it was):
To show US is capable of using such weapons over Iran.
To enforce the theme of nuclear contest.
To show that ground troops, overthrow or tactical nuclear weapons would be necessary.
Training.
To show US supports “Israel” .
To provide an off ramp, “we tried, till next time”.
To frame evolution into international political theater for resolution of the middle east.
To confuse Americans by having half of them ask what the point was of bombing empty tunnels, and confuse the other half by having them think it was just theater.
Bad hair day.
Bombs were near end of shelf life.
Etc.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 24 2025 15:13 utc | 262

Thomas Keith, to finish up
The next threshold, air power, the last pillar Iran’s adversaries believe is too degraded to project dominance. But that gap is now becoming too strategically exposed for China to ignore. After absorbing a full-spectrum Israeli strike, Iran has proven missile resilience, drone depth, and command continuity, but its air superiority layer is still underweight, and everyone sees it.
If Iran wants to close the triangle, missiles, drones, and manned air power, China is the only partner willing to bridge that gap without strings. Iran’s interest in the J-10C is longstanding, and now justified: it’s light, multirole, and can be domestically painted as “air defense modernization.”
Integration with Chinese radars (KLJ-7A AESA) and PL-15 long-range air-to-air missiles gives Iran parity over regional skies. The PL-15 already out-ranges anything Israeli or American jets carry in the region, making the acquisition not just symbolic, but operationally disruptive.
if Iran doesn’t solve its airpower deficit, everything else, missiles, drones, EW, even China’s tech, just becomes a reactive defense stack, not a forward-pushing posture. And that’s how you get dog walked by an enemy with superior tempo, ISR, and sky control.
3:13 PM · Jun 24, 2025

Posted by: stranger | Jun 24 2025 15:15 utc | 263

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 14:58 utc | 253
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Yes. Thanks for correction. I was so impressed by the writing that I forgot it was a quote. I guess LLMs would be perfect for turning out stuff “in the style of”.
Apparently, AI slop is more prevalent than I thought. If TK is an indication, its pretty sophisticated.

Posted by: john brewster | Jun 24 2025 15:16 utc | 264

Trump does not have the philosopher king mentality or intellectual undergirding to match snake’s assessment of his alleged motives and nobody else who’s been allowed to stay in his near orbit does either.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 14:54 utc | 246
Trump is a pitch man. He can sell anything provided he’s selling to the gullible. He’s genius at weaseling and bullshit … if he didn’t have a rich dad he’s be doing ‘pump and dumps” or selling health tonics at county fairs.
He sold a version of himself to the electorate who thought they were getting MAGA while he promised something completely different to US financiers and power brokers.
The problem is now that he’s elected as the boss he has to BE the boss which is well beyond his skill level. I believe he wants to achieve great things for the USA however Khamenei, Putin and Xi along with most other world leaders aren’t the type that buy penny stock, ginsu knives or MAGA hats so his mojo doesn’t work on them.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 24 2025 15:17 utc | 265

This world-saving situational comedy …
Posted by: Johann von Oberndorf | Jun 24 2025 15:06 utc | 257–
I am not inclined to laugh.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 24 2025 15:19 utc | 266

@ChatNPC | Jun 24 2025 15:11 utc, who said:
“Throughout the last 6 months, irrespective of what has happened in Ukraine or Iran it has barely flinched, rather it has gently drifted downward.”
ChatNPC: tks for bringing this up. This needs more thought and debate. WTF is this?
Is demand falling (likely) faster than supply? Does mr. market think the Iran-Israel war is theater, and the big decisions have already been made?
Is the price of oil in the west being deliberately suppressed down?
Anyone got insight? The market is _not_ doing what I’d expect. Stock market highs, oil lower. Only thing makes sense to me @ market is dollar trend-down.
Even interest rates are still flat (3 yrs now) at about 4pct. That’s still a historic low. Apparently a whole lot of people think our debt level is just fine, and it’s all good.
What’s up with that?

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 24 2025 15:21 utc | 267

Markw@258 15:08 utc
Israel cannot be discarded as there is no reliable replacement in the region. Israel and the compromised Arab states provide the basis to influence the flow and price of energy.
It would be interesting to see a list of nuclear power projects in the region. Iran managed to preserve theirs via a Russian guarantee. The prohibition on attacking these facilities, while weakened, remains intact. Iran did not seriously target Dimona. Ukraine attacks Zapp NPP not to damage the reactors, but to degrade security and prevent use/restart. It can only come back online when the conflict ends. Russia has not tried to compromise Ukraine’s remaining NPPs.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 15:21 utc | 268

So the troll meme of the day is “Israel won”. Any post of this nature and you know what you’re dealing with. Obviously, the more this bullshit is shouted, the more unsure and frightened the shouters are. A real win is very clear, like Russia stomping Ukronazis, for example.
Keep shouting, Zios. We all see and know you now.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 24 2025 15:21 utc | 269

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 13:02 utc | 158
Msm never say truth.
Oil not going up but quite plunging may signal a total different thing.
Recession is one of the things that generally make energy to take a dive.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 24 2025 15:21 utc | 270

Riddle me a riddle.
Why are oil prices DOWN?
who benefits from the lower $ price for oil.
More importantly who suffers from a lower $ price for oil?
There looks like some weird shit going down. Assymetrical?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 24 2025 15:25 utc | 272

Posted by: john brewster | Jun 24 2025 15:16 utc | 267
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Sophisticated use is almost undetectable.
And it is no more egregious than spell checking through software.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 15:25 utc | 273

A Brazilian psychic forecasts it it is not over yet
Eg
This has stoked speculation that Iran’s leadership may pressure its enemies to relent by blocking or effectively closing the Strait of Hormuz to shipping.
The waterway at the mouth of the Persian Gulf handles about a quarter of the world’s seaborne oil trade, so if Iran were to block access to the massive tankers that deliver oil and gas to China, Europe, and other major markets, it could drive up global oil prices and trigger widespread economic disruption.
Salomé claims the British Royal Navy has received secret orders to reposition ships between Oman and Bahrain as a containment plan called ‘Operation Shield of Hormuz.’
He added: ‘If Iran blocks the strait, as it has already threatened to do, the United Kingdom will act immediately, escorting oil tankers and conducting naval mine sweeps.
‘But beware: although sold to the press as a ‘humanitarian action’, this mission will involve direct clashes with drones, torpedoes and underwater sabotage. The war will be technical, but real.’
Athos warns that this involvement will be the beginning of a continuous and inevitable presence of British forces in the Persian Gulf.
Behind the scenes at NATO, there are confidential talks about the possible invocation of Article 5, the collective defence clause, in the event of coordinated cyber attacks by Tehran against American facilities in Europe, such as the Ramstein air base in Germany.
‘If there is an Iranian digital offensive against military targets in Europe, the United Kingdom will be legally compelled to participate in NATO’s defence.
‘This will include coordinated blockades, electronic sanctions, cyber espionage and even attacks on Iranian servers.’
In other words, the United Kingdom could enter the war not with tanks, but with algorithms, firewalls and state viruses, according to the Brazilian medium.
The British base at Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, which is technically under UK sovereignty but operated in close collaboration with the US, is already in full ‘hidden’ activity, serving as a logistical and digital support centre.
Salomé added: ‘Even without a public statement, Diego Garcia is being used for diplomatic evacuation operations, strategic weapons transport and electronic surveillance.
‘Emergency contracts with civilian companies have been hastily signed. In the event of retaliation by Iran, the base could become an indirect target for cruise missiles or attacks by Iranian drones and their proxies in Yemen or Pakistan.’
If this happens, says Athos, the United Kingdom will be forced to react, not of its own volition, but because its territorial integrity will have been violated.
Well a good a guess as anything….Salomé revealed that this is ‘not the end of hostilities’, saying: ‘It is merely a theatrical interlude in a script written to manipulate headlines, delay investigations and test how far misinformation can be sold as heroism.’
‘True peace does not come about suddenly, nor from a solitary speech during prime time. It requires real commitment, mature diplomacy and, above all, respect for life.’
None of this was present in yesterday’s announcement, according to the Living Nostradamus. Contrary to what has been suggested, the psychic believes ‘war is not over’; it has merely changed its guise.

Posted by: Jo | Jun 24 2025 15:27 utc | 274

Tommy Keith is fucking stupid American. Only Americans are interested in projecting power, it’s a losing game, the world knows this, only Americans with oceans for moats and no enemies in it’s hemisphere goes abroad looking for enemies to slay

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 24 2025 15:29 utc | 275

Here is the trump card waiting to be played at the table.
“Israel has been the country that historically receives the most military support from the US in terms of total cumulative aid.”
So, when Trump says they don’t know what the fuck they are doing, the trump card comes into play. By necessity, however, little by little. In the meantime, Iran remains happy, Israel not so much.

Posted by: Johnny Dollar | Jun 24 2025 15:29 utc | 276

A couple of thoughts on oil prices:
– it’s summer in the Northern Hemisphere, some refineries go off-line for regular repairs and maintenance
– perhaps more importantly, some global oil transactions are no longer using the US$ as a pricing basis or intermediary

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 24 2025 15:29 utc | 277

🇮🇷 Iran parliament are discussing on a bill to ban Grossi, head of International Atomic Agency, entrance to Iran
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 15:10 utc | 261–
Invite him, they surely have a spare rope…

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 24 2025 15:33 utc | 278

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 14:45 utc | 237
That young lady has a helluva sharp mouth on her and she’s very easy on the eyes. Grraaawrr!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 24 2025 15:34 utc | 279

An analysis of “price to deliver at a profit” for the various producers is important to supplies, and thus prices. The US production suffers when the price is too low. Gas, including LNG, is a more prominent variable these days for power generation and industrial produxtion.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 15:36 utc | 280

RE: Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 24 2025 15:29 utc | 278
I don’t know. UK & France still doing their upmost to recolonize around the world as well. Pope still has his clutches everywhere
US is simply the military arm of the whole colonial white racist financial Zio order. The US “looks” powerful.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 24 2025 15:37 utc | 281

love to hate Europe, especially Serbia, Germany, the UK and France. war-mongers, hypocrites and war-profiteers. fock them all
Serbia’s shit is going to be used to kill Palestinians in Gaza in the genocide. About which Iran did nothing.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1937463313077768532
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
🕵🏻‍♂️ 🇮🇱 🇷🇸 Photos of Belgrade airport this morning, while the Israeli Boeing 747 loads crates with “explosive goods” signs (artillery shells or ammunition sold by Serbia to Israel), currently flying towards Nevatim Air Base.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1937516214277796174
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not accept Donald Trump’s suggestion of a ceasefire. Netanyahu begged Trump for a ceasefire. Trump contacted Qatar to mediate and Iran accepted the US request via Qatar.
———
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1937475293947789560
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Damn, Israel even managed to piss off Miriam Adelson’s masseuse.
https://x.com/cspan/status/1937468807536169315
CSPAN @cspan
President Trump on Israel and Iran: “We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 24 2025 15:38 utc | 282

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 24 2025 13:31 utc | 180
In your comment to my post I see we agree on what is, unfortunately, the reality – the ROW is not (yet) capable of taking on the US/Israel and proxies. The costs for the ROW are incalculable, even if the costs for the terrorist states of the West are also high and are adding to their slow decline.
The attacks on Iran are very ominous for RoW.
I didn’t say it my previous post – this fight was stopped by US/Israel and the gang NOW, while Israel is still standing, the main instrument of white West (wild West) control over West Asia.
As long as Israel exists,there will be no peace, no stability and no prosperity for the people living there, only benefit for the ruling circles serving the white-West ruling mob.
By saving Israel the white Western criminals know exactly what they are doing – they will rebuild, re-arm their main weapon of mass destruction, Israel, and Iran (and others) will be the target again, and again because it is in the way of major Western strategic interests.
Iran, fighting alone, joined officially only by Yemen, is unjustly still under sanctions, a great nation of great integrity struggling to live and develop according to its own vision.
Iran’s achievements under decades of extreme pressure and a horrendous eight-year-long imposed war with Iraq, are remarkable. The costs of these attacks slow down its advancements.
It borders with the impossible what Iran has done, including in this imposed fight.
Unfortunately, as long as there is Israel, the war will continue in all forms.
Until the day that the majority in the world realise that together they are stronger in every way than the Western criminals and finally unite in necessary action. If the world survives by then.

Posted by: JB | Jun 24 2025 15:40 utc | 283

RE 🇮🇷 Iran parliament are discussing on a bill to ban Grossi, head of International Atomic Agency, entrance to Iran
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 24 2025 15:10 utc | 261–
They’d really be better off suspending it during their “investigation” which may take some time, rather than make it about one corrupt individual, since the whole lot are corrupted.
Then….release the files…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 24 2025 15:40 utc | 284

Re cease-fire,
So, the chosen, and their uncle-sugar have claimed that all their objectives have been met.
What were those objectives? To kill and maim Iranians? To destroy infrastructure?
Did they achieve their stated goal of regime change? Did they achieve their goal of stopping Iran’s support for the Palestinians? Did they stop Iran from building nukes? Where is the enriched u now, anyway? Did they stop Iran from destroying occupied Palestine?
Did they? …
Who cried cease-fire first?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 24 2025 15:40 utc | 285

Iran has won so far.
1) Israel and the US didn’t get regime change
2) Iran still has nuclear capability
These were the two goals and the West failed. Worse, Iran now may possess strategic ambiguity just like Israel. Did they build nukes? Did they get nuke donations from Pakistan/Russia/China/NK? Nobody will know.
I wonder if Netanyahu is irreplaceable. If he dies or whatever, Israel is stuck with incompatible factions that (perhaps) only he could knit together. Far different from Iran, regime change is the danger in Israel. In Iran, they’re martyrs and just appoint a new Ayatollah or whatever.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 24 2025 15:42 utc | 286

RE: Posted by: JB | Jun 24 2025 15:40 utc | 286
Completely agree. I just see a very disjointed, all protecting their own interest, kind of grouping. The only actor even pushing for unity is Russia. The rest are doing their own thing. Like mindless drones, talking about “someday”…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 24 2025 15:45 utc | 287

RoB #103. People DO ask, and have been asking for a long long time. Clinton’s depleted uranium in Yugoslavia? Swept under the rug. The destruction of Falluja? Swept under the rug. Burn pits in all of Iraq? Swept under the rug. The largest single polluting entity in the world is the Murkan army. Old news. No one cares. Swept under the rug. Bayer/Monsanto plus Gates of Hell toxic chemicals in Ukraine, Murika! Argentina? Swept under the rug. Agent Orange in Colombia, Laos! Vietnam? Swept under the rug. Destruction of habitat in the Amazon? Old news. Swept under the rug. Huge loss of wild life in the massive fires – arson plus geoengineering in California? No one cares. Swept under the rug. Uncle Buffy’s Texas sized island of plastic Coke bottles is still circulating in the Pacific Ocean. No one cares, least of all Uncle Buffy who sucks up the profits and pays for NONE of the damage.
The final irony on top of so much more destruction by money grubbing unconscious “human” morons is that all the toxic waste – depleted uranium becomes dust, etc etc. in Gaza Is now blowing downwind into Izzyhell. All those squatters from Brooklyn and Europe are going to reap what they sow – alas too slowly.
So RoB, if you have any ideas about how to stop this, please let me know. At the moment it looks like Gates of Hell, Blackhearted Blackstone, et al have the upper hand.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 24 2025 15:46 utc | 288

The emergence of rockets as an effective non-nuclear deterrent in this conflict (and Ukrainian one) is interesting. Russia has begun serial production of Oreshnik. While we have seen only a single test in combat, this could emerge as another important tool in modern conflicts. Wonder if Russia will share some tips with Iran.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 24 2025 15:47 utc | 289

RE: Is Khamenei still alive?
Posted by: RP | Jun 24 2025 15:42 utc | 290
And if he wasn’t?
Yeah…you got nothing.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 24 2025 15:48 utc | 290

marandi kept saying this is about gaza..
so let us see the terms of the cease fire.
let us see how gaza was helped these last 13 days and going forward from today.
what changed?
moloch sacrifice blood ritual have not stopped.
iran could have said leave gaza stop the slaughter and we will cease fire
the khazhar donmeh shoah goes on

Posted by: dan | Jun 24 2025 15:49 utc | 291

Crowds of jubilant Iranis in the streets, celebrating victory.
No celebrations in occupied Palestine. Weeping, kvetching Jews everywhere.
Victory is what feels like victory in the end.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 15:51 utc | 292

28. Thank you Janet.

Posted by: azeclecticdog | Jun 24 2025 15:51 utc | 293

firstly I don’t believe Israel will stick to any agreement they make. if they obey this ceasefire it is only because they know they will get beat up.
I also now think that Trump is not so happy with Israel.
Finally does this ceasefire also apply to Gaza, and if not, why not?
All in all neutral for Iran, and a minus for Israel.
Maybe the Americans are waking up?

Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 24 2025 15:53 utc | 294


🇮🇶 🇮🇱 🇺🇸 After the Israeli regime attacked Iran through Iraqi airspace with US permission for the past 12 days, the Iraqi Prime Minister said today that he is seeking to strengthen the country’s air defenses. The air defense they will get will be controlled by US anyway

This yanqui-controlled muppet probably means to use the air defences to protect israel.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 15:55 utc | 295

Posted by: john brewster | Jun 24 2025 14:51 utc | 243
It is not my writing, John, but quote.My English is far from perfect.
I find Thomas Keith ( the ghost in the machine) excellent, he even made talk about the arms sound poetic.
You can find him on x. I only use x to collate useful accounts, never write anything. Saves time.

Posted by: stranger | Jun 24 2025 15:55 utc | 296

So, what have we learned?
Hmmmm…
1] Trump willingly kisses the ass of the warmongering “Never-Trump” crowd.
2] That the “Never Trump” crowd @ MOA/[& elsewhere] are warmongering sacks of $#!t.
3] That the “Never Trump” crowd @ MOA/[& elsewhere] lie one way then, the other.
4] That Trump needs the MAGA crowd but, MAGA ain’t a cult, it doesn’t need* Trump.
*I can’t link what’s below because b censors the newsfeed, as it doesn’t always comport to his world view, nor in fairness..mine, fair enough, MOA is his blog…well, his spin off.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) has joined Kentucky Republican Rep. Thomas Massie in slamming the Trump administration’s bombing of Iran, calling it a “bait and switch.”
I spent millions of my own money and TRAVELED THE ENTIRE COUNTRY campaigning for President Trump and his MAGA agenda and his promises, Trump’s MAGA agenda included these key promises: NO MORE FOREIGN WARS. NO MORE REGIME CHANGE. WORLD PEACE. THIS is what the people voted for….Only 6 months in and we are back into foreign wars, regime change, and world war 3…It feels like a complete bait and switch to please the neocons, warmongers, military industrial complex contracts, and neocon tv personalities who were NEVER TRUMPERS! Let me be very clear, my children are 22, 25, and 27, I will literally fight ANYONE for their future. And their future and their entire generation’s future MUST be free of America LAST foreign wars that provoke terrorists attacks on our homeland, military drafts, and NUCLEAR WAR. I am FIGHTING for them to have a future where they can afford to buy a home, afford insurance, invest for retirement, enjoy life, retain their God given freedoms, afford to raise a family under their Christian faith, not be in debt, safety and security, AND NOT HAVE OUR OWN TAX PAYER FUNDED GOVERNMENT DESTROY IT ALL
Greene has previously criticized US involvement in the Ukraine war with Russia. Last year, she joined Massie to file a motion that would vacate House Speaker Mike Johnson – a move that ultimately failed after Democrats teamed up with Republicans

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 24 2025 15:56 utc | 297

Dialogue Works
Mohammad Marandi: If Israel Strikes, Iran Hits Back HARD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYjX0NC-EiU

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 15:58 utc | 298

Iran Vows ‘Decisive Response’ If Israel Violates Truce
https://www.rt.com/news/620165-us-joins-iran-bombing/
LIVE UPDATES

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 24 2025 16:00 utc | 299

https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1937444431340142900
Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2
A senior European diplomat once told me “our talking points are coming straight from Tel-Aviv. I protested & said ‘we have our own embassies & foreign service, why aren’t they drafting our own talking points?'”
The diplomat then added “if I speak up, I’ll never have a job again”
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1937496559161102729
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
More details in my article today:
For now, both sides appear to have de-escalated, and a tense calm prevails across the fronts. This phase of large-scale warfare has ended—until the next round, or the nuclear threshold is crossed. In its place, a silent war of preparation and positioning has begun.
Israel has failed to achieve its core objectives: it did not eliminate Iran’s nuclear or missile programmes, nor did it force surrender or ruling system change. Meanwhile, Iran has reinforced the strategic value of its hypersonic missile arsenal—now battle-tested, precise, and central to its deterrence posture. The strength of Iran’s allies is more important than ever even if Iran relied on itself in this devastating war.
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1937433895055544683
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
the Mossad called Iranian generals and threatened to kill their wife and children if they did not record video messages saying they oppose the Iranian government and want to overthrow it. They planned to release these videos when they launched their war to cause state collapse. None of the generals they threatened made the video and instead stood by their nation and people.
Genocidal Zionists are the most depraved sub-human scum alive, and everything they do must be done to them a thousandfold. Call all their generals and military commanders and tell them: Record a video saying you will leave the colony you have occupied within 12 hours, or you and your wife and children and entire bloodline will be wiped off the face of the earth.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 24 2025 16:01 utc | 300