Tic-Toc 9 On The War On Iran
A ceasefire.
To be broken in 3, 2, 1 ...
Added:
So, what have we learned?
- Iran is a lot more powerful than many people thought.
- Western air defence systems aren’t very effective.
- Who knew those little Iranian lawnmower-engined dorito drones could get all the way to Israel?
- Hypersonic missiles are invulnerable and very frightening.
- Tehran now knows which missiles in its arsenal are most effective and which most effectively soak up the enemy’s air defence and will build accordingly
- Tehran’s decision to follow the missile-based armament route is vindicated. Suvorov: “Fight the enemy with the weapons he lacks“; Sun Tsu: “avoid strength and strike weakness“. `Others will notice.
- Israel has used up the sleeper cells and intelligence penetration that it had built up in Iran.
and
My predictions.
- The damage in Israel will be much greater and much more effective than we have been told.
- In Iran, not so much.
I agree.
Posted by b on June 24, 2025 at 9:47 UTC | Permalink
next page »China isn't dropping aid into Gaza. Some familiar black balloons here.
https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-did-chinese-fighter-jets-deliver-aid-to-gaza/a-72607641
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 24 2025 9:55 utc | 2
I would not trust any ceasefire with those People who believe they are chosen
Posted by: Toxik | Jun 24 2025 9:56 utc | 3
Trump surrendered. First, Israel was rapidly running out of defensive missiles. Second, Iran can easily close the Strait of Hormuz, just as the Houthis closed the Red Sea. Which Iran may still do. Iran will not "negotiate" with the US. Iran will enrich uranium. Iran will not give up its missiles.
Posted by: 1951 | Jun 24 2025 10:00 utc | 4
Yup, doesn't appear it lasted 3 hours? At first a handful of launches into Israel? But now more than some issues with Iranian C2?
Has anyone seen an actual count?
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 24 2025 10:04 utc | 5
Trump surrendered. First, Israel was rapidly running out of defensive missiles. Second, Iran can easily close the Strait of Hormuz, just as the Houthis closed the Red Sea. Which Iran may still do. Iran will not "negotiate" with the US. Iran will enrich uranium. Iran will not give up its missiles.
Posted by: 1951 | Jun 24 2025 10:00 utc | 4
Post of the Day!
Posted by: Menz | Jun 24 2025 10:08 utc | 6
Trump has certainly strengthened Iranian hardliners. They will demand iran builds nukes to drive off a potential US invasion attempt.
Will china and russia help them?
Posted by: seer | Jun 24 2025 10:12 utc | 7
From previously:
Interesting things to watch for:
i) Izzies breaking the ceasefire - based on past history a given, this time, maybe not so much;
ii) roundup and elimination of Mossad agents inside Iran. Have they been thrown under the bus?;
iii) return (or not) of US military to evacuated bases in the heart of Centcom across the middle east. Perhaps dependent on i);
iv) the fate of Bibi.
At least he Samson option seems to be off the table...
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 24 2025 10:13 utc | 8
Every ceasefire is just western jawboning to stop Iranian or Russian retaliation.
It should be obvious to everyone by now.
Posted by: V | Jun 24 2025 10:13 utc | 9
The ceasefire has been broken.
Posted by: Ludovic | Jun 24 2025 10:14 utc | 10
Was it ever there?
Iran are dealing with the agreement incapable.
Posted by: jpc | Jun 24 2025 10:17 utc | 12
This theory that Trump was playing 10D chess to bring Bibi to the table is pure propaganda and these are the following reasons why:
1. It is based on the false belief that Israel owns America and he has allowed the Israel firsters to box him in.
The truth is Israel is a US military base in the Middle East and Trump handpicked his team with his eyes wide open and wanted them in his team.
2. If there is a ceasefire what have Israel and America achieved?
Absolutely nothing that they couldn’t have achieved last week via negotiations without going to war. Now it worse as the Uranium has been removed and nobody knows where it is.
3. Last Friday this regime change operation was real. Trump boasted about killing a dozen nuclear scientists and the decapitation of Iran military leadership.
Iran would not have played along with that just to bring Bibi to the table.
4. This was planned over a year ago with test runs using fake targets in Israel as the Iran nuclear sites.
Yet, we are supposed to believe in the last 48 hours Trump suddenly came up with the plan to cut a deal with Iran to bring Bibi to the table.
5. Israel is running out of air defence and in real danger of losing a war of attrition.
We are supposed to believe they suddenly want peace.
There are dozens of other inconsistencies but these are enough to show the propaganda that Trump cut a deal with Iran to isolate Bibi is bogus.
The absolute truth is the regime change operation failed. Just like in Ukraine the Americans failed to supply their proxy with the weapons they needed.
Israel and America are now screaming for a ceasefire in EXACTLY the same way Ukraine and America are now screaming for a ceasefire. Their regime change operation failed. There two proxies are in danger of getting wiped from the geopolitical chessboard.
Everything else is just noise. To paint Trump as a hero and a chess master and if you believe any of those two things you are a gullible fool.
But just watch ...
Now you will find out who the Kissingerarians are on social media. These will be the ones who push this bullshit theory.
Why ?
Their end game is to bring the US closer to Russia and ultimately isolate China.
It will fail. As the right wing populist agenda is peace through strength. Peace on American terms and protection of the US rules based order. Both Russia and China see it from a mile away.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 10:18 utc | 13
Every ceasefire is just western jawboning to stop Iranian or Russian retaliation.It should be obvious to everyone by now.
Posted by: V | Jun 24 2025 10:13 utc | 9
exactly. that is why they always only insit on a "ceasefire", and never talk actual peace or fixing the root causes. just a kicking of the can down the road.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 24 2025 10:19 utc | 14
Mediation #29
O' Israel, where are your lovers and suitors now?As israel bleeds under the Persian hammer it is clear that any meagre victory to come will be more than deeply Pyrrhic.
Discredited as a "safe homeland for the Jews", a "mighty fortress against the Arabs", the most "moral army in the world", the "only democracy in the Middle East", the "mightiest army in the middle east", it's future is bleak.
Why then has none of it's allies come to it's rescue?
No, I don't mean "rescue" in the sense of supplying arms and shooting down enemy missiles, I mean true rescue - stopping the war permanently. For they watched you bleed to the edge of death, O, israel and only then, with cynical grin, stepped in to claim the glory of "peacemaker".
For israel, you are indeed bleeding!
What kind of friends, what kind of allies would give you all you need to dash yourself against a foe, but merely hang around to enjoy the spectacle?
What kind of lovers are these? Did they ever love you, O' israel?
Or were you always just a cruel amusement for them, to toy with and discard when amusements end, lifeless and broken upon the Rock of Ages?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 10:25 utc | 15
Every ceasefire is just western jawboning
Posted by: V | Jun 24 2025 10:13 utc | 9
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Posted by: too scents | Jun 24 2025 10:30 utc | 17
ed4 | Jun 24 2025 10:04 utc | 5
It wasn’t a “handful” of missiles from Iran into Israel.
It was ~ ONE
And probably not even *from* Iran.
The Israeli response?
Blanket the whole country in red “siren” alert notifications.
How do they spell “kabuk” in hebrew????
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 24 2025 10:30 utc | 18
I don't think regime change can be achieved without some proxy army of collaborators getting established, like in Syria. The Israeli attack in particular but also the Yank attack has at least short term strengthened the government in Tehran. Foreign enemies of a different religion launching attacks are apt to do that.
This is not to say that it is off the table, of course. Especially in Kurdish and Baluchi areas, I suspect preparations are well under way.
Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 24 2025 10:31 utc | 19
Meme:
US: We are attacking Iran because they have nuclear weapons
Q: Why don’t you attack Russia?
US: Are you crazy? They have nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 24 2025 10:33 utc | 20
IAEA chief invites Iran’s Foreign Minister for talks, urging Tehran to resume cooperation with the agency as ‘the key to a successful agreement’
https://t.me/rtnews/100488
No comment
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 10:35 utc | 21
BOOK Robert Dreyfuss Hostage for Khomeini (1981)
petergrfstrm | Jun 24 2025 6:34 utc | 829
…premiere for Hollywood's China Syndrom and the Harrisburg 'accident' happened two weeks later it most likely was a deliberate sabotage
Well.SOB. And Doh!
undermine worldwide use of nuclear power.
Had nuclear power proliferated and the poor nations had become industrialised
Doh! Doh! Doh! We here had a very vocal anti nuke ~ can I now call it ~ “industry” here thru the 70s and 80s.
As a naive, kid- adult pre 9/11, I oft wondered why - as one of the world’s largest uranium deposits/ suppliers - we were so nuclear adverse…. We’d sell uranium to FFS… India, but, no, *we* were loud volume anti nuke.
Doh! Accessing our own deposits and becoming a nuclear nation… we’d of course be a superpower in the South Pacific.
Neither UK ( who tested *their* nukes in Western Australia) nor the U$ wanted a satrap in the South Seas dominating Asia-Pacific …. doh!
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Tom_12 | Jun 24 2025 6:49 utc | 841
…4. Balance of Power: US and British foreign policy agenda has always been a maintenance of a balance of power, meaning no nation should ever become strong and independent
Doh. Of course our PM Whitlam was taken out in a soft coup. Doh.
The Australia of the 1970s was very nationalistic. Without being cut off at the knees, our destiny could have been very different.
petergrfstrm | Jun 24 2025 6:34 utc | 829
…Westinghouse was involved
I knew in the early 1980s Westinghouse was involved in the removal of PM Whitlam.
They’d made comments anticipating the “fall of the Australian government within the next six weeks”…. when we were years away from an election, and there was no reason to anticipate the “fall of the Australian government”….
petergrfstrm | Jun 24 2025 10:16 utc | 944
…In the chinese case I dont know how much Maos side was sponsored but the Yale-connected americans
Answer. A Lot.
Read a lot about the Jewish members of Mao’s cabinet. Sidney Rotenberg and others… quiet a few. Especially considering how China back then was a /starving /overpopulated / backwater…..
Will see if I’ve still got the links to who were the handlers behind Mao…
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 24 2025 10:35 utc | 22
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 24 2025 10:19 utc | 14
It's a copy and paste job of Witkoff's plan in Ukraine.
Both US proxies are losing and once again America has been weakened.
But the complete and utter bullshit will continue as Kissengerarians within Russia and Kissingerarians within America will continue to try and bring Russia and the US closer.
Many Russian telegram channels are kissingerarians and Simplicius has just revealed himself. As he promotes the bullshit theory above.
I predicted all of this would happen days in advance. I thought it would be outrage at the start of the week. Then by Friday the framing and narrative would be Trump was a hero and chess master and somebody else would be to blame.
This bullshit being laid on thick at the start of the week shows how desperate the kissingerarians have become.
I even said there are Kissingerarians at the bar and they didn't let me down. Right wing ideologues never do. As they have been trying to promote this bullshit all week.
Trump the hero, the chess master that brought peace.
Just like Simplicius they have outed themselves.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 10:37 utc | 23
Salaam,so the USA leader states that there is a "ceasefire"- between Iran and Israel!In the event of a violation of this arrangement,it is not stated who/if there are any monitoring avenues,what are the costs/ benefits?
Posted by: 4q8 | Jun 24 2025 10:38 utc | 24
@21
IAEA is like OSCE.
Let them in and they provide U$$A with target data.
Posted by: paddy | Jun 24 2025 10:41 utc | 25
"Trump surrendered. First, Israel was rapidly running out of defensive missiles. Second, Iran can easily close the Strait of Hormuz, just as the Houthis closed the Red Sea. Which Iran may still do. Iran will not "negotiate" with the US. Iran will enrich uranium. Iran will not give up its missiles."
Posted by: 1951 | Jun 24 2025 10:00 utc | 4
"Post of the Day!"
Posted by: Menz | Jun 24 2025 10:08 utc | 6
I second that motion!
Posted by: canuk | Jun 24 2025 10:44 utc | 26
Yes. Israel fought Iran on its own and cried wolf to get the Americans in.
Trump played Kabuki Theatre to get a ceasefire which he hopes many won't understand was basically just a ceasefire + theatre - he didn't do anything other than promise Israel would stop firing.
Israel won't respect that. They will play the same game and demand US gets involved.
They will get involved.
Trump just bought himself time from Israel's demands for a wholly illegal and stupid war with Iran that may well bring down Trump with Israel.
All part of the end of empire and Thucidides Trap.
China smiling
Posted by: Michael Droy | Jun 24 2025 10:47 utc | 27
Posted by: janet | Jun 23 2025 22:32 utc | 370 "The six "possible bomb entry points" are a physical impossibility. The morons who photoshopped these have no knowledge of physics/mechanics at all."
Could you be more specific as to why it is physical impossibility and what physics/mechanics is being missed in these claims?
Posted by: ed4
Solids are (essentially) incompressible.
Some "solids" incorporating small air gaps are somewhat compressible.
Because of this a solid cannot move through another solid without the second being pulverized and moved out of the way.
The 6 "holes" are totally inconsistent with this.
How did the material in front of the bunker buster move past it to enable its passage?
In the real world the material in front of the bunker buster is pulverized and forced past it, i.e. upwards, by the bunker buster's progress.
In order to escape the pressure this material blows a conical shaped section from the tip of the missile up to ground level.
If the pressure of this material cannot be released in this way, then material in front of the bunker buster remains in place and the bunker buster is stopped in its tracks (due to the incompressible nature of solids).
Now the radius of the conical shaped section is very wide and nothing at all like the narrow "holes" shown in the photographs.
This proves that the photos are simply photo-shopped images.
The fact that the "holes" are in two tightly grouped clusters of three also shows the images are faked.
In the real world the penetration of the second bunker buster, so close to the first, would crush and remove any visible evidence of the first.
And, of course, the third, being so close to the first and second, would crush and remove any visible evidence of the first and the second.
In the imaginary world of the liars the material in front of the bunker buster disappears and is magically placed behind the bunker buster, by G_d or something. Since the liars believe the public has no clue about physics/mechanics, they regularly dish up such fairy tales.
Posted by: janet | Jun 24 2025 10:48 utc | 28
Pax Americana along with it's corporate HQ Pax Judea have neutered Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Yemen and now Iran. They are already owners of remaining Arab countries, Turkey, Pakistan and Azerbaijan.
Regime change vibes of Operation rising Lion (imperial Iran flag) with Persian Prince Palavi flying to the regional HQ to pledge allegiance at the Wailing Wall right before hostilities started.
Anyone delusional enough to think the Russians are any different than our imperialists should look back at Russian backstabbing of Iran dozens of times (refusal to complete civilian nuclear reactors, refusal to sell modern air defense systems, refusal to sell modern aircraft) because just like Pax Americana, Pax Russia is subsidiary of Pax Judea.
Posted by: Saag | Jun 24 2025 10:48 utc | 29
The biggest surprise is how poorly the IDF AD functioned against Irans homegrown missiles and drones.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 24 2025 10:49 utc | 30
It would appear that Iran has been preparing as Russia has done for quite some time.
Why should it respect any deal with Trump or Israel or any Western country?
They have proven to be:
Non-trustable deceptive deal breakers
Deceivers
Liars
Terrorists
Supporters of genocide
Greed motivated profiteers
Unethical manipulators
Murderers and psychopaths
Forked tongued
Fake news mongers
Bullies
Promoters of ongoing world violence
etc etc.
Why would anyone trust their word? They have given license for anyone to do the same.
Russian and China also know all this.
Posted by: George | Jun 24 2025 10:50 utc | 31
Peskov comments on the back-and-forth between Medvedev and Trump:
"Dmitry Anatolyevich firmly and consistently expresses his point of view, and, of course, it is more important to us than all other points of view.
Enjoyed the pic of medvedev peskov and Putin. Three trolls having a chuckle
https://t.me/AussieCossack/37702
- no telegram acc necessary.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 24 2025 10:51 utc | 32
And so we enter a new world in which almost nothing can be confirmed as real. John Oliver ran a segment on "AI Slop" - in which videos become wildly fictional but utterly real in appearance.
Maybe this is for the best - in ending the American Empire by lies and delusions that feel good. Ukraine will win ! We showed Iran ! And so on. Meanwhile, China and Russia build diplomatic structures and undermine US tariff craziness.
I say, watch the aftermath of Israel - debt, infrastructure, brain drain. This ain't over.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 24 2025 10:56 utc | 33
2. If there is a ceasefire what have Israel and America achieved?
Absolutely nothing that they couldn’t have achieved last week via negotiations without going to war. Now it worse as the Uranium has been removed and nobody knows where it is.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 24 2025 10:18 utc | 13
Don't worry,... it will probably end up in the New York lost and found.
Posted by: LastMan | Jun 24 2025 11:00 utc | 34
Trump playing 5D chess? Lol! He would struggle intellectually throwing the dice playing Snakes and Ladders!
Posted by: Vragtes | Jun 24 2025 11:02 utc | 35
Oh yes it is. All bar the shouting. Israel won and the US won hands down.
Posted by: Tits on a Bull | Jun 24 2025 11:01 utc | 36
That's simply counter-factual.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 11:03 utc | 36
Oh yes it is. All bar the shouting. Israel won and the US won hands down.
Posted by: Tits on a Bull | Jun 24 2025 11:01 utc | 36
That's simply counter-factual.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 11:03 utc | 37
The nose.
It can’t possibly be real……can it ????
If real. Please prosecute him for oxygen theft… he’s sucking in waaay more than his shareShar
https://nitter.net/MyLordBebo/status/1937400452787630133
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 24 2025 11:05 utc | 38
1951 | Jun 24 2025 10:00 utc | 4
Trump may have surrendered, but Iran did also - their response to the US attack was a telegraphed attack on empty US bases. It's pretty much impossible to do much when an enemy has total freedom of the skies above you. Maybe two or three drones brought down and zero aircraft?
You can't gild this lily - this was in the short term a win for Usrael. Long term ... well it remains to be seen how Israelis, and the dual citizen brigade, react to the experience of being under fire. More people died in Gaza over the 12 days than in Israel - probably an order of magnitude more.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:06 utc | 39
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 24 2025 11:05 utc | 41
The only short-nosed villain I've ever known is Voldemort and he had his nose trimmed.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 11:06 utc | 40
Israel has less than 2 weeks AD remaining at the current pace of Iranian missile volleys. Iran stated that they were preparing for a war lasting 6 months.
War of attrition is a numbers game. Israel is going to run out of AD long before Iran runs out of missiles necessitating US intervention.
If Netanyahu is still hiding in Cypress he’s going to be there for a while.
Posted by: Down South | Jun 24 2025 11:07 utc | 41
Other lessons :
- useless : aircraft carriers
- not cost effective : manned airplanes
- great : missiles, small flying stuff whose targetting can't be jammed (not remote controlled, not gps controlled)
- vulnerable : power plants, harbours, airports, logistics for MIC
Now, from these two wars (Ukraine, West Asia), everybody will now be back to CAD and design. And let's meet in the battlefield in 2030. Like the Spanish War to prepare WW2. In the meantime, biological nasties for the opponent... And Western governments hammering their cattle...
Posted by: Asian Frog | Jun 24 2025 11:07 utc | 42
the resistance won
or
resistance is futile
with that pesky guy still in Iran the rot will continue.
B I S
IMF
ROTH STEIN FRANKENSTEEN WILLS IT.
MEANWHILE GAZAN FOLKS GET FED TO MOLOCH.
half a million half a million onward into the the shadow of death
Oded Yinon NEVER SLEEPS
Posted by: DAN | Jun 24 2025 11:08 utc | 43
Tic-Toc $NUM On The War On Iran ...
For the ones slow on the uptake, this is MoA's mechanism for signaling smoke ops to avoid discussing elephants not clearly apparent in the room. You would think B would have something remotely resembling intelligent analysis but there is a mountain of bullshit words and outright propaganda lies by B and the 24/7 attached auto-pens of MoA to acknowledge (the fucking elephants..) should we be permitted to have an actual discussion of myths, claims, lies, and actual events.
Instead we get the bar tender put up the ya'all go nuts on the $NUM thread. An 'apologetic' series of posts by the "poor poet" holding down the Anti-"anglo-saxson" front on Google and Cloudflares servers "from Germany".
Posted by: driveby | Jun 24 2025 11:10 utc | 44
"ISRAEL. DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS. IF YOU DO IT IS A MAJOR VIOLATION. BRING YOUR PILOTS HOME, NOW! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES"
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:10 utc | 45
Now would be the perfect time for Hezbollah, Ansarallah, Hashd Al Shaabi to pick up the slack and deplete the rest of israel's interceptor stock.
After all, the ceasefire doesn't necessarily have to extend to them.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 11:11 utc | 46
"The nose.
It can’t possibly be real……can it ????
If real. Please prosecute him for oxygen theft… he’s sucking in waaay more than his shareShar
https://nitter.net/MyLordBebo/status/1937400452787630133 "
Posted by: Melaleuca
Nah, it's photo shopped: https://cdn.imago-images.de/bild/st/0415001169/w.jpg
But all you need to know about this guy you see here: https://www.dw.com/de/iran-symbolische-reise-des-ex-kronprinzen-nach-israel/a-65368628
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 24 2025 11:11 utc | 47
The Billionaires win it all, lock stock and barrel.
Posted by: Tits on a Bull | Jun 24 2025 11:01 utc | 36
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How is this possible without a return to chattel slavery?
Posted by: too scents | Jun 24 2025 11:13 utc | 48
Are targeted assassinations considered as a break of ceasefire?
Posted by: Asian Frog | Jun 24 2025 11:14 utc | 49
@YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:10 utc | 48
I thought you posted a parody, but no:
https://t.me/presstv/146110
He has lost it completely, but he is somehow worried about what Israel is planning.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 11:14 utc | 50
Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 11:14 utc | 53
Interesting.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 24 2025 11:17 utc | 51
Testing since I get a "Your comment could not be posted. Error type: undefined" message.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 24 2025 11:17 utc | 52
As I see it: US tried to topple Iran, but concluded that not all things were in place. Now, they will make a pause. Prepare better for the second round and try again.
I could defeat prime Mike Tyson if he would be on defense all the time. And when I get tired, we make a break. Sooner or later, I would make enough damage.
Usually countries refrain from attacking other countries due to consequences of failure. But it is not the case with US since there are no consequences. They lobbed missiles into Russia under cover of Ukraine. Instead of using Iran to sink some US ships, Putin will "avoid escalation". For how long?
Posted by: Bomboni Toni | Jun 24 2025 11:17 utc | 53
Israel won, the genocide will continue and will increase in intensity. The Muslim world should work flat out on building 10000 nukes, minimum, but they won't, too busy watching FIFA. Sorry to the Palestinian babies, evil won.
Posted by: Argh | Jun 24 2025 11:17 utc | 54
🇺🇸 "They don't know what the fuck they're doing"
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/153500
At least he is using diplomatic language 🤣
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 11:19 utc | 55
As Trump said to Zelensky "Russia holds all the cards".
Now Iran holds all the cards.....
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 24 2025 11:19 utc | 56
New Berletic:
https://rumble.com/v6v8uwv-trump-lures-iran-into-peace-trap-again-continues-decades-spanning-regime-ch.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_a
As usual I fully agree. It now happened so often, that I lose any respect for anyone not noting the pattern. Strike hard, call for ceasefire and peace before any serious escalation, strike again, repeat until opponent is left without ability to fight back.
Anyone believe in peace or any form of appeasment with the USA is hopelessly irrational.
Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 24 2025 11:21 utc | 58
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:06 utc | 42
I wouldn't dismiss Iran so easily they demonstrated that they are plenty capable of hitting USA bases, and other assets in the region, even after Israel declared that they destroyied a gazillion of tel and missiles warehouses.
As for the Gazans Vs Israelians , keep in mind that while the formers are, as sad as it is, quite used to it, Israelians are not so used to being targeted.
They considered themselves to be safe/untouchable but they discovered they are not.
Posted by: Mario | Jun 24 2025 11:21 utc | 59
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 24 2025 10:33 utc | 20
>>>Meme:
>>>US: We are attacking Iran because they have nuclear weapons.
>>>Q: Why don’t you attack Russia?
>>>US: Are you crazy? They have nuclear weapons.
Updated Meme:
US: We are attacking Iran because they have nuclear weapons.
Q: Why don’t you attack Russia?
US: Are you crazy? They have Oreshniks!!!
Posted by: nudge | Jun 24 2025 11:22 utc | 60
regime change happened with that little helicopter crash in a country once controlled by the noble peace prize crime cartel then by the house of red shield.
if pesky does not resign soon a total decapitation already happened within Iran everything else was smoke and mirrors.
B I S IMF
AND A LOVELY KHAZHAR CENTRAL BANK INCOMING.
Posted by: DAN | Jun 24 2025 11:24 utc | 61
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 11:14 utc | 53
Norwegian - as you say, not a skit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt
Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 24 2025 11:24 utc | 62
A reply to a topic in the last thread. I haven't finished reading it yet (200-300 comments left if I'm lucky) but I'm posting this anyway since it's kind of an important topic/point.
Iranian ghost uranium
"Butties" ( Jun 23 2025 21:18 utc | 324 ) wanted much more than a link —he wanted actual proof— but if we find and look at the source (or at least a report of the claim) we will realize there likely can never be any proof.
The Uranium most likely doesn't exist. Because ghosts! It's ghost Uranium! Okay not ghosts but IAEA "paper uranium" (as if that isn't ghostly) :D
I used "Ornot"'s comment ( Jun 23 2025 21:32 utc | 334 ) and whittled it down to "31 May 2025 IAEA May 17 Iran 408.6kg (900.8 pounds) uranium enriched 60 percent" for the search input (with no quotation marks) and the first hit is "Iran rejects IAEA report alleging increased enriched uranium stockpile" (and from Al Jazeera as "Ornot" hinted with "AJZ").
Somebody already archived it:
https://archive.ph/mTzOv
Iran rejects!
So no Iran does not acknowledge having 408.6kg of 60% Uranium, it is just something Bibi's long lost bastard brother and IAEA war criminal Rafael Mariano Grossi claims (and from there on it is repeated and amplified as part of the narrative).
Conclusion: "Butties" is right to protest!
Side note: aside from the propaganda angle it's not actually meaningful in itself whether they have 200kg or 400 kg or whatever. For the propaganda it is of course a great way to have something to be concerned or shocked or outraged about and go "omg they have twice as much! Panic! Do something, anything. War!" etc. :/
(As far as I am concerned Iran can have as much Uranium as they like at any percentage of refinement. There is this thing called science and it doesn't stop at 60%).
(Changed this comment until it worked, removed a monster URL and I might have accidentally used non-breaking line shifts or something weird because of my fat fingers).
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 24 2025 11:26 utc | 63
🇺🇸 🇮🇱 🇮🇷 US President Donald Trump on the Israeli ceasefire violationhttps://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43878“I’m not that happy about that Israel”
RT analysis
US is NOT in a position to escalate any direct conflict with Iran. US has “bigger fish” to fry with Russia and China as the world transitions to the new multipolar world.
President Trump has suppressed the crying demands of his masters in Israel requesting a dealing with Iran. Now he orders them to settle down. The biggest threat to President Trump is Israel, will they deal with him as they dealt with JFK?
🇺🇸 Trump: “When I say 12 hours you don’t go out in the first hour and drop everything you have on them. I am not happy with Israel going out this morning because of one rocket that was shot perhaps by mistake. It didn’t land. I am not happy about that"https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43879
🇺🇸🇮🇱🇮🇷 Trump: "Israel dropped the biggest load!"https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/153501
🤔This is starting to feel like some kind of madness. Yesterday, he suggested overthrowing the ayatollahs. At night, Iran bombed a U.S. base. In the morning, Trump talked about peace. By afternoon, he said the peace was already broken. Now he’s urging Israel to stop. Is Don living in some kind of accelerated reality? How do we make sense of all this?https://t.me/ukraine_watch/43217
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 11:27 utc | 64
56) @Bomboni Toni "Putin will "avoid escalation". For how long?"
He will seat by the river and calmly watch the corpse of the enemy floating. After the US peak in shale oil production (closer to 2027 than 2030), a quick and sharp decrease will come.
The US will need the EU petrol consumption to come to zero quickly. Arrange for some "green khmers" to be elected, or some bad flu.
Posted by: Asian Frog | Jun 24 2025 11:27 utc | 65
So the Israeli fighter jets are already on their way to Tehran to drop their bombs.
Posted by: mk | Jun 24 2025 11:28 utc | 66
Peter AU1 | Jun 24 2025 11:19 utc | 59
"Now Iran holds all the cards....."
How?
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:29 utc | 67
What peace/cease-fire?
I have not seen anything about Iran accepting any cease-fires, or peace-deals. All I have seen is Trump claiming there was/is a cease-fire in effect.
Posted by: Axxis | Jun 24 2025 11:29 utc | 68
The biggest blow of all, with enduring consequences, is to the Zionist psyche; their sense of superiority, of invincibility even, has been smashed to smithereens. Never before has Israel suffered such heavy damage to its towns and cities, not once during the various conflicts in that blighted state’s history has the economic and energy infrastructure taken such a pounding. The armed forces have been exposed as a paper tiger, only useful for bullying and slaughtering helpless civilians, but cannot function against a properly-equipped adversary without the the direct backing and assistance of the USA.
The ceasefire won’t hold, not least because Netanyahu’s own political and personal future depends on continuous conflict, lest the national focus in Israel turns towards scrutinising his own wrongdoings. How the profound culture shock the ordinary population has undergone will affect this remains to to be seen.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 24 2025 11:29 utc | 69
Mario | Jun 24 2025 11:21 utc | 62
I don't dismiss Iran easily at all, and they did show that Israel, Dome, Sling, Arrow and all, is not secure, but still - you can have thousands of missiles, but if within ten minutes of getting the launchers out, a flight of bombers are coming at you, that rather diminishes the utility of said missiles, and your technicians get killed.
Satellite plus air dominance is still pretty important there.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:35 utc | 70
O' Israel, where are your lovers and suitors now?
.. . . O' israel?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 24 2025 10:25 utc | 15
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Thanks for using the vocative "O."
Just drop the apostrophe.
Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 11:38 utc | 71
YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:29 utc | 70
This theater of the absurd - if the US could attack Iran they would. There is no doubt plenty of idiot american that think Iran is a place of religious nutter that can be easily overrun by the 'mighty' American military machine.
Iran has provided the rat an escape ramp rather than cornering it.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 24 2025 11:40 utc | 72
Doing a step backward an overlooking the scenario, you get another picture:
Trump changing his position twice a day, but suddenly:
US planes flying over Iran without a single shot fom Iraninan AD.
Bombing three nucelar sites without one radioactive particle getting in the air. On both sides nobody gets even a scratch.
Iran takes revenge on three US bases. Nobody on both sides gets even a scratch.
Trump shouts: Peace on earth! The twelve days war is over.
Both parties agree to a ceasefire.
Ending a war with military action without even one drop of blood spilled. (at least from the US side). Only possible with the best showmaster of all times. Monty Phyton looking pale in comparison.
(Nobel Peace Price being prepared...)
And now tell me, all this happend by chance.
Posted by: Johann von Oberndorf | Jun 24 2025 11:42 utc | 73
🇺🇸🇮🇱🇮🇷 Trump: "ISRAEL is not going to attack Iran. All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly "Plane Wave" to Iran. Nobody will be hurt, the Ceasefire is in effect! Thank you for your attention to this matter! DONALD J: TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES"
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/153504
He knows something, as he is going bonkers.
🇮🇱💥🇮🇷 Israel did in fact carry out a strike on Iran, despite Trump's statements.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/153506
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 11:42 utc | 74
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:35 utc | 73
Really?
It appears that in a dozen days the Iran launchers, or at least a consistent part of them are still working.
So where are those air superiority, hundred of strikes, ISR?
Maybe the izzies are doing simply what they are able to do, that is bombing civilians, same plot that Ukrainians are doing?
Posted by: Mario | Jun 24 2025 11:42 utc | 75
I've been following events in the region since around 1970 (I'm an old guy), and I have never seen Israel in as much trouble as in the last few days.
Quite apart from the military and economic damage, just think of the social and psychological toll exacted by day after day of missile attacks. Some days fewer, some days more, but remaining constantly in the back of fearful, sleep-deprived minds.
..and Israel isn't the country it once was. Israelis used to be very united and egalitarian (amongst themselves), now they are riven by class, ethnic and religious divisions. In the 60s and 70s Israelis were tough soldier-farmers who could take it as well as dish it out. Today, Tel Aviv and Haifa are full of the same soft, spoilt and entitled individuals as any Western city.
Posted by: Harbin | Jun 24 2025 11:42 utc | 76
So, having the Zionists reeling the Iranians do the extreme opposite of Russia and cease fire? And now what? The Iranian government now just sits around in suspense for however long until the Zionists, with or without the US, launch another decapitation strike? How is that situation supposed to be tenable? Sounds to me like Iran is simply surrendering to fate because they have no idea what else to do.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 24 2025 11:44 utc | 77
I for one, wish to praise our glorious President, Zapp Brannigan. He brought us peace ("People of Earth....shhhhhh")
I await the Victory In Ukraine parades. I read that Edgar Mitchell (astronaut) actually asserted that Aliens are keeping our nuclear weapons in check so we don't blow ourselves up. If you think that's just crazy, look at current geopolitics and ask yourself, "Compared to what?"
Ah, the American Empire. "Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad".
Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 24 2025 11:45 utc | 78
SRAEL is not going to attack Iran. All planes will turn around and head home, while doing a friendly “Plane Wave” to Iran. Nobody will be hurt, the Ceasefire is in effect! Thank you for your attention to this matter! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:45 utc | 79
Meme:
US: We are attacking Iran because they have nuclear weapons
Q: Why don’t you attack Russia?
US: Are you crazy? They have nuclear weapons.
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Correction:
US: We are attacking Iran because Israel says they have nuclear weapons and that this is a good pretext to attack them and regime-change them. Hey, it worked (kinda) in Iraq! . . .
NB: There are plenty of Norteamericano/as who saw through the Powell yellow-cake hoax, The RussiaGate hoax, the covid hoax (no jabs!), and now the Iran Nukes hoax (incomplete list).
Just sayin'.
Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 11:46 utc | 80
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 24 2025 11:44 utc | 80
It's Trump, Nutty and the west that have no idea of what to do.
Posted by: Mario | Jun 24 2025 11:50 utc | 81
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 24 2025 11:40 utc | 75
if the US could attack Iran they wouldWhy would they? Deceit, lies, terrorist acts and 'one-offs' work extremely well without any cost to themselves. They will strike again under some fabricated pretense and then call for peace again. They will never call it war but peace. This will continue until Iran collapses. It is not weakness, it is a winning strategy. It's sickening from a moral point of view but it works much better than open confrontation.
Posted by: Hamburger | Jun 24 2025 11:50 utc | 82
IMHO it's much too early to say that either side won. For Iran to win, it would need to acquire decent AD and extirpate any trace of the shit ton of subversives (Mossad, MEK, Azeri and Kurdish separatists, etc.) infesting its body politic -- and IMHO acquire nukes as well. The demise of the dollar as a currency taken seriously would also seem necessary, because the Zionazi Entity can easily rebuild itself with billions of dollars harvested from Uncle Sugar's Magic Money Tree. On the Zionazi side the big questions are how quickly it can rearm itself, and whether it can be dissuaded or prevented from using the Samson Option next time around.
One thing is for certain though: As long as the Zionazi Entity continues to exist, humanity is the loser.
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 24 2025 11:50 utc | 83
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 24 2025 11:14 utc | 53If it wouldn't be so sad it'd be funny:Trump: "ISRAEL. DO NOT DROP THOSE BOMBS. IF YOU DO IT IS A MAJOR VIOLATION. BRING YOUR PILOTS HOME, NOW! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES"
He has lost it completely, but he is somehow worried about what Israel is planning.
1. Iran has the USA by their zionist balls. But:
2. Israel has the USA by their zionist balls too.
It must be pretty inconvenient: the alleged super power #1 is being torn by two lesser entities.
There must be ancient fables like this: two rodents making the elephant dance to their tunes...
Posted by: Konami | Jun 24 2025 11:51 utc | 84
Ending a war with military action without even one drop of blood spilled. (at least from the US side). Only possible with the best showmaster of all times. Monty Phyton looking pale in comparison.
(Nobel Peace Price being prepared...)
And now tell me, all this happend by chance.
Posted by: Johann von Oberndorf | Jun 24 2025 11:42 utc | 76
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Why did he do this?
- Showing Israel and the Israel lobby he ist dong something.
- Ending the war to please th MAGA crowd.
- Knowing that either Israel nor US can win.
- Getting rid of one of his problems.
- Israel knowing that it cannot win against Iran.
- Trying to avoid a Oil Crisis.
- Giving both sides a chance to get out of it with saving face.
So many reasons.
I think he even didn't plan it. He saw a chance, got some good advice, and grabbed it.
Posted by: Johann von Oberndorf | Jun 24 2025 11:51 utc | 85
The Iranian government now just sits around in suspensePosted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 24 2025 11:44 utc | 80
So it hasn’t occurred to you that the Iranian government will be auditing its missile stockpiles, bring some from “reserve” to “ready” status and reviewing its production plans, accelerating them where it deems necessary?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 24 2025 11:52 utc | 86
Mario | Jun 24 2025 11:42 utc | 78
Yes, they can still launch missiles, but not very many of them. And they have plenty of targets, power stations, and the platforms for the gas that's being stolen from the Palestinians.
Iran have folded their cards, and I don't get the impression it's because they're cowards. They will know the odds they face better than we do.
(Although I wouldn't be surprised if we see Hani al-Shadowbani accusing the Ayatollah of cowardice any second now...)
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:53 utc | 87
So, having the Zionists reeling the Iranians do the extreme opposite of Russia and cease fire? And now what? The Iranian government now just sits around in suspense for however long until the Zionists, with or without the US, launch another decapitation strike? How is that situation supposed to be tenable? Sounds to me like Iran is simply surrendering to fate because they have no idea what else to do.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 24 2025 11:44 utc | 80
I think that if Iran continued with its strikes for a couple of months then Israel would be at its collective wits' end. The economy would grind to a standstill and those who could would be leaving. There are already 5000 homeless people. I could easily see 100 000 being rendered homeless in quite short order - in itself creating huge logistical problems.
How can a modern economy continue to function under such conditions, where the population spends the night sheltering in subways?
It can't!
Absent outside intervention, Israel disintegrates in 6 months - tops
Posted by: Harbin | Jun 24 2025 11:53 utc | 88
This mess can be resolved only by ... regime change!
I wonder where? Seriously, how strong is Netanyahu internally? Even if it's a tug-of-war between factions in the USA, the mere threat of reduced US support to Israel will have an impact on Likud and interior politics.
The one place where I don't suspect regime change is Iran.
Posted by: Konami | Jun 24 2025 11:55 utc | 89
"Donald Trump called Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and asked him not to attack Iran, an Axios reporter said in a X post on Tuesday, citing an Israeli official, Reuters reports.
Netanyahu told Trump that he was unable to cancel the attack and that it was needed because Iran violated the ceasefire, the Axios reporter said."
Israel have Trumps nuts in a vice.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 11:55 utc | 90
Yo! HasbaRats!
Getting some fresh air?
Has the tinnitus of alarms faded for a few hours?
It’s nothing compared to what you have done to the native Semites you have invaded.
You will be subject to justice for that.
In the meantime -Flee!
While there is some ceasefire.
Like the plane load that landed in Bulgaria returning ‘settlers ‘ to their ‘homelands’ having failed in their colonial task.
Flee like they did across to Egypts airports.
Soon that too will become much harder.
The left behind useful as the cinematic history photographs of ‘why always us’ wolves in Judaic sheepskin future narratives. Just shapeshifters willing ziofascist minion tools and mass murderers.
The bases in Iraq are getting theirs served now, never mind Drumpffs escapologist act from his CFR/Pentagon ziofascist mobsters of the AngloEuropean imperialism of the ages.
The Donald can’t save your delusions of riches and land.
So Run you rabbits, run run run, or like crazed Nazis of ww2, await your fate as the illegal apartheid entity dream expires inevitably.
From The River To The Sea.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 24 2025 11:55 utc | 91
NB: There are plenty of Norteamericano/as who saw through the Powell yellow-cake hoax, The RussiaGate hoax, the covid hoax (no jabs!), and now the Iran Nukes hoax (incomplete list). Just sayin'.
Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 11:46 utc | 83
Yeah you forgot 9/11.
And you can prove the world trade center buildings were bought down by explosives in just one line.
They all "fell" at near free-fall speed.
So obvious. Luckily for the liars the public has no clue about physics/mechanics.
Posted by: janet | Jun 24 2025 11:56 utc | 92
Hope and Change
Hoax and Chains
What do you get with the lies and derangement?
Uhmaggeddon destruction of Heaven....
Do not believe what your senses tell you,
Trust the bank, your cents will restore what's due.
Without yeast or leaven,
the dough is dead, unrisen.
Reap what you sow,
The whirlwind moves, albeit slow.....
Hope and Change,
Hoax and Chains
Cease,
Fire,
Cease,
Fire!!!
Ashes to ashes,
We all fall down...
Posted by: Norsk Borscht | Jun 24 2025 11:56 utc | 93
Posted by: Harbin | Jun 24 2025 11:42 utc | 79
I've been following the events in the ME nearly as long as you have, if you look closely, most of the Israeli settlers of the last 20 years are East European trash that countries like Russia are glad to see the backs of.
Posted by: Menz | Jun 24 2025 11:56 utc | 94
Many "Members of the Chosen Tribe" are not happy with Bibi. Leading figures in Isr politics are in a very dangerous situation but the general calculus hasn't changed for the Government. If the status quo with the ceasefire stays not only would Bibi probably be send to kosher gulag, the majority of the Isr society would have to accept the very difficult notion that they might not be as exceptional as they claim.
So for reasons of internal politics and mass psychosis in the Chosen Country the shitshow must continue. At least the "nuclear" aspect apparently moved to the sidelines...
Posted by: Roland | Jun 24 2025 11:57 utc | 95
This mess can be resolved only by ... regime change!
I wonder where? Seriously, how strong is Netanyahu internally? Even if it's a tug-of-war between factions in the USA, the mere threat of reduced US support to Israel will have an impact on Likud and interior politics.
The one place where I don't suspect regime change is Iran.
Posted by: Konami | Jun 24 2025 11:55 utc | 92
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People keep assuming that if Bibi's Likud falls, it will be replaced by something more reasonable. All I see are parties and factions that are even more dangerous.
Posted by: malenkov | Jun 24 2025 11:58 utc | 96
It would appear that Iran has been preparing as Russia has done for quite some time.. . .
Posted by: George | Jun 24 2025 10:50 utc | 31
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Both Mahmoud OB and Alon Mizrahi in their most recent podcasts (AFAIK) both conclude---Alon most clearly--- that Trump/IS has stepped in big doodoo in Iran and the latter now has Trump where they want him. Namely, he thinks he can play this game continually of a few strikes here and there.
Whereas actually Iran is now serious and Trump must actually pay attention and explain to the American people why we must go to war for Israel---or, failing to do that, he will be acknowledging that he is the one saying Uncle, not Iran.
(Both podcasters take awhile to state these conclusions, but you can skip to the end.)
Here:
"The Iranian calculus: why Iran is attacking American bases in the Middle East right now"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHo-FEv9o3A
"Iran ATTACKS THE LARGEST American Base In West Asia | Israel BEGS FOR CEASEFIRE"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlFA8RqvpaA
Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 11:58 utc | 97
that is bombing civilians, same plot that Ukrainians are doing?
Posted by: Mario | Jun 24 2025 11:42 utc | 78
And many various professionals from different fields. If you really want to build a bomb, everyone involved will be hidden and protected somewhere far form the car bomb or quadcopter thru window dangers. The story simply doesn't work. What they are doing is chaos so the leadership collapses. They're creating dependencies in all areas which will be filled by "friends" for further control. In time, the loyal army will be wasted, will feel vomit and leave, the headchopper replacements will appear and be welcomed by everyone, including Brics, which will then blame the Iranians themselves for their problems. Sounds familiar?
Posted by: rk | Jun 24 2025 12:01 utc | 98
In the 60s and 70s Israelis were tough soldier-farmers who could take it as well as dish it out.
Harbinn @ 79
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The hoary old saying that has often come to mind as I watch the Iran-Israel punch-up is "They can dish it out but they can't take it."
Posted by: Jane | Jun 24 2025 12:01 utc | 99
This belief Iran must acquire better air defence than their own..... It has done pretty well to date. Israel managed to open a gap for 12-24 hours using sleeper cells. Iran quickly got that up and running and since then, Israel has had to mostly fire missiles from outside Iranian airspace.
This was long planned by Israel and it got some strikes in. Leakers. How many strikes has Russia taken since the conflict there began. Many. Too numerous to count. But those strikes a only a small percentage of all that has been fired at it.
Pantsir vs HIMARS. The Bridge at Kherson. Pantsirs could only take down a small percentage, the rest were getting through. It was several months and several software upgrades before Pantsir was reliably taking down HYMARS with close to 100% kill rate.
US super duper stealthy planes keep their distance from Iranian defence systems.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 24 2025 12:02 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
All considerations of morality and international law aside, it must be said that Iran seems to have been thoroughly outplayed by Usrael here, particularly in the initial attacks which blinded Iran’s air defence and made their skies safe for Usraeli aircraft.
I see that as a parting shot, Iraqi air defence radars have suffered the fate of their Iranian counterparts.
In the short term this looks like a big win for Israel. Syria gone. Iran neutered. Ethnic cleansing unchallenged. In the long term it’s too early to tell. Israel’s image is very poor among western youth. It’s been decades since idealistic goyim went to be kibbutzniks for a summer, but so what?
“Let them hate me, as long as they fear me”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 24 2025 9:50 utc | 1