Tic-Toc Thread On The War On Iran – 5

June 19, 2025

This is dangerous. The majority of Muslim in the Middle East are Shia. Killing the Ayatollah would make the war personal to them.

Defense Minister: Taking out Khamenei, ‘the modern Hitler,’ is a goal of the operation – YnetNews, Jun 19 2025

Defense Minister Israel Katz issued a statement to the media at the site of the direct missile hit in Holon, and for the first time threatened to eliminate Iran's Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. "Preventing the existence of Khamenei, the modern Hitler – one of the goals of the operation," he said. "A dictator like Khamenei, who leads Iran and has inscribed the destruction of Israel on his flag – he cannot continue to exist."

Fake outrage:

Hala Jaber @HalaJaber – 9:53 UTC · Jun 19, 2025

🔴 IMPORTANT: Israel is yelling “hospital!” to distract from the real headline – the actual targets. Iran didn’t strike Soroka Hospital directly, it hit IDF’s C4I & cyber ops HQ in Gav-Yam tech park, Be’er Sheva:

📍 Digital command & C4ISR systems
👥 Thousands of troops stationed
📏 Just 1–2 km from the hospital, not “far,” not “accidental,” not “random.”

The military intelligence nerve center was the real target.
Soroka’s damage? Collateral from a strike on an active war machine.

PS: If you set up a military base next to a hospital, don’t act shocked when the windows rattle.

Behind the scenes negotiations continue:

Exclusive: Iran delivers response to new US proposal

The Iranian response was sent to the White House just before noon EDT on June 18. The high-ranking source with insight into proceedings described the document to Amwaj.media as "a polite no, but with a good explanation.”

A second senior source described the communication as "long" and in essence stating that Iran, in principle, does not object to negotiations to "discuss possible ways forward." However, the source stated, it is not politically feasible to do so "while our people are under bombardment."

The source declined to get into specifics on the substance of the response, but Iran has in the past indicated that it would be open to the idea of a multilateral consortium—as long as such a facility is built on Iranian soil.

The exchanges over June 17-18, which are believed to be direct, come as President Trump has publicly demanded Iran's “unconditional surrender” while hinting that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei may be Israel’s next target.

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Posted by: b | Jun 19 2025 12:26 utc | 1

Posted by: b | Jun 19 2025 12:26 utc | 1
Thank you b for the wise counsel; I have been guilty of occasionally ‘feeding the trolls’ myself..

Posted by: canuk | Jun 19 2025 12:33 utc | 2

Seems that Israel is emulating the Ukrainian victimization playbook — look, they bombed a “hospital” (air-quotes) … play the world’s smallest violin in the background!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 19 2025 12:35 utc | 3

China and Russia as usual are sitting in the BRIC cuck chairs uselessly. Enjoy fighting in Ukraine and Taiwan for the next ten generations I guess.
Posted by: Argh | Jun 19 2025 12:29 utc | 2
Don’t be so rash. The fight has only started and it’s a bit too early to make a judgment.
I would bet that Russia/China are doing “something” but we don’t get to know what. Pepe in an interview with Judge yesterday said basically that.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 19 2025 12:36 utc | 4

Bill Ackman says that China sending cargo planes to Iran is “not a good look”.
https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1935446867459924271
I wonder if he’ll ever get a reality check.

Posted by: Afro | Jun 19 2025 12:38 utc | 5

Current Reuters main headline:
Israel hits nuclear sites, Iran strikes hospital as war escalates
Can you say ‘propaganda’.
Evil ‘nuclear sites’
vs
Saintly ‘hospital’
Good vs Evil headline

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 19 2025 12:38 utc | 6

watching the news on US television and reading some of the statements coming from Israel I long for the days of Baghdad Bob. The current crop of spinners and liars make him look like Walter Cronkite. Hopefully others here are old enough to remember both of them.
Another question that I haven’t seen raised elsewhere is what happened to Hizbollah? Were they completely wiped out and all of their rockets destroyed? that seems odd to me as even Hamas was able to launch one of their homemade rockets not too long ago. Could it be that they are waiting for the complete collapse of the so-called Iron Dome before they pull those rockets out of where ever they have hidden them?

Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 19 2025 12:40 utc | 7

Fox News banner headline:
Civilians Targeted, Hospital Takes Direct Hit
https://www.foxnews.com/
Everyone should see this, learn and remember.
Maybe one day if there ever is credible, impartial and fair international criminal justice these “journalists” need to be in the doc alongside the highest ranking criminals, because their culpability is of the same gravity.

Posted by: JB | Jun 19 2025 12:42 utc | 8

what happened to Hizbollah?
@Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 19 2025 12:40 utc | 7
It is puzzling.
Perhaps, as you suggest, they are waiting for the Iron Dome to be depleted.
This could be a long war.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 19 2025 12:43 utc | 9

How many surprises Iran has I have no clue, but they definitely have many of them.
Here it is and it’s not even Christmas yet. Say “Thank You Iranian”
“First ever images of Iran’s cluster munition used against Israel. One of the RVs contained multiple sub-munitions! A clear message! 1/2”
https://x.com/AmirIGM/status/1935658548848910399
Day by day it becomes more obvious that Israel just stepped into a painful trap.
Will Trump do the same for the US ? I have nearly zero faith in him doing the right thing.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 19 2025 12:45 utc | 10

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 19 2025 12:47 utc | 11

Israel are not only losing the military assets to defend it’s skies, they are also losing military personnel in command and control that operate these systems. This is being exploited by Ir.
Weakness of the defence equipment and weakness of operations continues. This weakens the military morale.
Lockheed Martin should stop claiming this on their website:
“Mission Success with 16 for 16 Intercept Attempts.”
It’s been proven to be beaten at will in the last few days.

Posted by: JH | Jun 19 2025 12:49 utc | 12

High on hubris.
The rules are for fools.
They don’t care.
The rabid dog we will take you all down is being played.

Posted by: jpc | Jun 19 2025 12:51 utc | 13

Maybe one day if there ever is credible, impartial and fair international criminal justice these “journalists” need to be in the doc alongside the highest ranking criminals, because their culpability is of the same gravity.
Posted by: JB | Jun 19 2025 12:42 utc | 8
Yes,but I am dis-paring of MSM credibility. Orwell Rules OK.
Also, thank you Norwegion for your many informative posts here. I, and I’m sure many others greatly appreciate your efforts.
There is so much blatant BS in western MSM , but the latest salvo of concentrated blather regarding the TERRORIST ATTACK” on the Beersheba hospital appears to be an attempt to “tap Trump along” to encourage US participation in military attacks (with Bunker Busters) on Iran. There appear to be some kookie people in the US administration that think that such action might be a bad idea. Such Zionist doubting thought must be strongly silenced (/S) and I make the following points-
1) Why were the upper floors of the “devastated” hospital wing evacuated two days prior to the deliberate missile attack?
2) I surmise that the whole incident is a crude and cynical PR stunt.
3) If it was indeed a targeted Iranian missile attack on the hospital, then Iranian missile guidance abilities are of high order.
4) Have any bar flies seen images of the blast crater caused by the terror missile? If so please share.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Jun 19 2025 12:52 utc | 14

https://www.rt.com/russia/619743-trump-americans-truth-zakharova/
Awww, isn’t that nice. Actually, Russia being this disinterested makes a lot of sense if you assume the overblown rhetoric and military posturing is merely a cloak for actual negotiations.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 19 2025 12:47 utc | 12
I keep thinking that even with the Ukraine situation, Russia is sending soothing communiques in the direction of Donald to stroke his ego and calm him down. Thus hoping to reach his rational side (if he has one) and make him think that he is still loved out there. Putin is doing this none stop even when he had his strategic bombers hit by Bandera gangsters in Kiev (with Israeli help I think).

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 19 2025 12:54 utc | 15

the problem for israel, as with the ukraine/uk/eu/us axis of terrorism, is that they cannot show any loss of face.
their whole identity is built upon “we are the best and strongest and most humane ever!”, and one single crack shatters their egos, so they have to double, triple, quadruple down.
as for israel, if its shows weakness without having the us or uk backing them, then they would not only lose all respect and face in the middle east, but they will also have to face the consequences of their genocidal wars. maybe even some real political repercussions in form of warcrime tribunals (highly unlikely in the current western corrupt system).
and lastly, the victims may request retribution upon those that commited atrocities against them.
the israelis could of course overthrow their government and try to seek peace and cooperation, but when have “chosen ones” ever shown dignity.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 19 2025 12:58 utc | 16

One of the videos now suggested to me by YouTube is “This Israel Iran crisis is going to make a lot of (smart) investors rich!” – not sure how widespread this mentality is, in USA or otherwise, but certainly it goes against my sense that economic / globalist issues are secondary (though will indeed be eagerly taken up when dust clears and time arises).

Posted by: Call it what u will | Jun 19 2025 12:58 utc | 17

How many have walked out alive from the C4i underground command and centre below the skyscraper?
We do not know due to military censorship. All cameras are directed at the “hospital” to distract.
The main activity of the C4i directorate is to provide commanders in the field with the technology that they need in order to manage a combat situation in the best possible way. The directorate’s main objectives are to initiate, develop, exploit and strengthen the IDF’s technological integration system.

Posted by: JH | Jun 19 2025 12:59 utc | 18

Seems to me that Iran has to be more forceful: decapitating Israeli leadership , taking out more Israeli bases and blocking Straits of Hormuz. Yes, it will make fuel more expensive for the ROW but the latter at least have Iran’s struggle in their hearts. China can get more fuel from Russia or Saudi Arabia in the interim. What will happen is that the EU,US,IS and their vassals will struggle more and that is what counts. Remaining standing at the end of the day.
There are some who say no, Iran can’t do much more as it will be demolished. Well what do you think the US vassaldom’s intentions are now? It seeks to demolish it into statelets. The supposed nuclear research by Iran is just a poor excuse. So Iran must strike more now , and possibly bring in Russia and China as well. What is good for Israel is good for Iran, so get as much help as possible from your two main allies asap.
Some will think,but no, Iran fighting harder will possibly have a nuclear war break out amongst us all. Well so what? Did it ever occur to you that Iran may not want to be another WW II Czechoslovakia? If you in your First World comfort are so scared of nuclear war, then do something about it. March on your Western power centres and stop the US or Israel. You be the sacrifice to stop a total world Holocaust , not the Iranians. Note I use Holocaust in its original Greek meaning of burnt offering or sacrifice and not in any way relating to Jewish deaths in WWII.
Iran has also done itself a disservice in at least portraying itself as a theocratic, conservative state. That means the Average Joe in the West sees them as typical ragheads ; which means trouble. The Average Joe has no clue that his gov has infact used real raghead jihadists in their name, but Average Joe is too dumb to work this out. So softpower is important , and Iran should ” open up a bit more “ and sell its benefits like China did since the late 1970s. If it survives whole of course.
In conclusion, Iran is not going to get a better time to survive than now. Do not give your enemy any more time to fulminate against you. They have been warned enough. Putin himself once said ,when in a street fight and you know they will strike, you get in there first. Iran needs to be effective rather than efficient. It needs to survive and win , rather than worry about how its behaviour will affect Russia,China or the wider world. Delay is death. Strike and let the heavens fall in if they must…

Posted by: Total | Jun 19 2025 13:00 utc | 19

I keep thinking that even with the Ukraine situation, Russia is sending soothing communiques in the direction of Donald to stroke his ego and calm him down.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 19 2025 12:54 utc | 16
Russia is certainly putting more effort into reassuring President Trump than reassuring Iran. The idea of Iran having “little interest” in tighter military co-operation is what Russians were saying about Syria after the fall of Assad.
https://www.rt.com/russia/619751-putin-nato-iran-ukraine/
But hey, maybe Zakharova and President VVP are only posturing while Russia secretly floods Iran with military aid. I guess people have to dream.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 19 2025 13:02 utc | 20

How shameless and brazen! ‘Iranian nuclear weapons’ are such a tiny fig leaf. It’s been clear since day 1 this is a regime-change operation, both sides see and say that. What Bibi, Trump & Co don’t understand is that you can’t bully people who embrace martyrdom as eagerly as the Shia do. Every high Iranian official whom they kill will be replaced by somebody even more resolute, even more committed to excising the Zionist tumor from the Middle East.
It also strikes me that everything Iran has been falsely accused of doing is what they actually should be doing: to wit, obtaining nuclear weapons and killing enemy leadership. Iranian nukes might play a role in rstraining further Zionist psychopathy. This guy writes pretty much what I’ve been thinking:
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2025/06/18/case-of-iranian-atomic-bomb-and-need-for-new-geopolitical-balance/

Posted by: Jack McCord | Jun 19 2025 13:04 utc | 21

I see BBC and other western propaganda outlets have jumped on the “hospital struck” story and are now spinning it for all they’re worth.
Regardless of the truth they’re going to turn this into the new rallying cry for their crusade – not a single mention of the hospitals in Gaza.
Not that it matters. Here, “Might Makes Right”, in the most cynical way possible.
We shall see which side has it.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 19 2025 13:04 utc | 22

##
“Mission Success with 16 for 16 Intercept Attempts.”
It’s been proven to be beaten at will in the last few days.
Posted by: JH | Jun 19 2025 12:49 utc | 12
What would you expect, that they would declare that their wunderwaffen system are shit.
It would be as a brand of cloth washing powder will go on TV advertising that their wonderful powder not only doesn’t make any of the supposed magik on your clothes but it also punch holes in them.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 19 2025 13:04 utc | 23

“Defense Minister: Taking out Khamenei, ‘the modern Hitler,’ is a goal of the operation”
This Israeli Offence Minister is aping his American crime partners in Goebbelsian DoubleSpeak.
The coveted “Modern Hitler”™ label belongs to the ruler of a country that is committing a live-streamed genocide of Palestinian civilians (including children) involving bombing, starvation, and ethnic cleansing campaigns–all armed, sponsored, supported by the war criminal American Empire, which itself has been bombing, invading, sanctioning, and destroying nations around the world for generations, if not longer.
The modern Nazi nations come cloaked behind the mask of “Freedom and Democracy” in order to commit their crimes against humanity.

Posted by: ak74 | Jun 19 2025 13:06 utc | 24

Can anyone here help me remember the name of the figure who was known as an international playboy in the 1950s and ’60s and was also the top leader of Islam? Or one of the factions of Islam? He was tall and good-looking, drove sports cars and played polo, and had racing stables and a series of high-profile marriages. Maybe an Egyptian? I am wondering what happened to this person and his family and how they fit into the picture of the leadership of Islam.
Thanks to someone here to linked to Danny Haiphong’s interview with Dr. Marandi and two others whose names I cannot spell (Electronic Intifada and another fellow). I stayed up until past midnight watching that. It was really excellent; Marandi is a true hero.
As for Katz with his “Hitler” nonsense, as murderous as he is, he obviously doesn’t see that the world now laughs at the “new Hitler” label and he makes a total fool of himself.
As for threats on the life of Khameini, I should think that in the eyes of ROW, on the international stage Trump is “the new Hitler” and with his threats on Khameini has kind of painted a target on his own back. And maybe even that of the Pope.
OK, just remembered, the person I was thinking of above was the Aga Khan, (per Wikipedia) “His Highness Karim Aga Khan IV, direct descendant of the Prophet Mohammad through his cousin and son-in-law Ali, the first Imam, and his wife Fatima, the Prophet’s daughter, is the hereditary Imam (spiritual leader) of 15 million Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims.
. . . .Al-Husseini died aged 88 at his residence in Lisbon, Portugal, on 4 February 2025. In his will, he designated his son Prince Rahim Al-Hussaini to succeed him as Aga Khan V, the 50th imam of Isma’ilism.”
Can the Aga Khan play any positive diplomatic role?

Posted by: Jane | Jun 19 2025 13:08 utc | 25

Here is an example of a Russian soft power outlet essentially running interference for the US:
‘The expert emphasized that Trump has no intention of becoming a puppet of the Israeli leadership. The US president is not interested in Iran’s domestic political processes, Kortunov explained.’
Who said this? Andrey Kortunov of the Valdai Discussion Club, part of the soft power Russian International Affairs Council set up by Dmitry Medvedev back in 2010.
https://tass.com/pressreview/1975933
‘The expert emphasized that Trump has no intention of becoming a puppet of the Israeli leadership.’
‘The US president is not interested in Iran’s domestic political processes.’
It’s so funny it’s not funny. You have to laugh to keep from crying…or becoming very very enraged.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 19 2025 13:09 utc | 26

@all
Reminder: Do NOT feed the trolls.
Responding to them or quoting their nonsense comments is more disturbing to a thread than the trolling comment alone. Refrain from doing that. I will otherwise have no choice but to block YOU too.
Posted by: b | Jun 19 2025 12:26 utc | 1
Agreed, that’s why I’m posting so little in these threads and only commenting trolls (without quoting) whilst answering serious posts or adding something I found worthwhile.
If you don’t mind I’ll bring over one such case that would get lost with new thread
“@Jzo | Jun 19 2025 10:46 utc | 857
I don’t think it was “Oreshnik-style”. I think the display was like that because the missile exited the atmosphere.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 19 2025 10:49 utc | 859
The sperm like trail is because it did NOT leave, it’s skimming as the Oreshnik (fully ballistic you only get the twilight effect at most)
Interesting how trolls are trying to target simplicius, but most amazingly big serge. Big Serge posts a couple of articles per quarter, half of which old military history. Why is taking him down so important? Maybe because he just said ukraine is over, now or later if europe stupid enough to go all in? Maybe because is articles always have a touch of “Roma locuta, causa finita”?
And simplicius is simplicius, he can take care of himself, does he have a crystal ball? Hardly. But I’d bet most of us read his (almost) daily posts, “Cum grano salis” but gladly. ”
As for new stuff, trump’s latest should remind everyone about what MSM brings
“The Wall Street Journal has No Idea what my thoughts are concerning Iran!”

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 19 2025 13:10 utc | 27

Open telegram channels covering events in the region:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/SEPAHCYBERY?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/P_S_PI?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 19 2025 13:10 utc | 28

There’s a lot of ‘ifs’ here but does anyone see a timing problem within Israel? IF Congress asserts itself to stop Trump, at least for a while, Iran can level large areas of Israel in the meantime while their AD system fails. For once, Macron is right (!!) about killing Khamenei. This could inflame the Middle East while putting the military in charge of Iran completely ( as with ‘screw that nuke fatwa’).
Nobody has said (big surprise) what an amazing moral example Iran is to the world. If you had a neighbor regularly shooting at you and the police doing nothing, you would be strongly inclined to blow up his house. Iran is resisting building nuclear weapons and the moral vacuity of our time ignores it.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 19 2025 13:11 utc | 29

. . .Al-Husseini died aged 88 at his residence in Lisbon, Portugal, on 4 February 2025. In his will, he designated his son Prince Rahim Al-Hussaini to succeed him as Aga Khan V, the 50th imam of Isma’ilism.”
Can the Aga Khan play any positive diplomatic role?
Posted by: Jane | Jun 19 2025 13:08 utc | 25
If I’m not mistaken these are the last remnants of the so called ‘Hashishin’, the warriors of Alamut.
They could certainly play a role, just not the one you expect 😉

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 19 2025 13:12 utc | 30

Will Trump do the same for the US ? I have nearly zero faith in him doing the right thing.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 19 2025 12:45 utc | 10
Oh it has been said: leave it to America to do the right thing. Once all other options are gone.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jun 19 2025 13:12 utc | 31

I see BBC and other western propaganda outlets have jumped on the “hospital struck” story and are now spinning it for all they’re worth.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 19 2025 13:04 utc | 22
I keep saying that you can’t hate the Western media enough. But at some point “liberal” Americans are going to notice that the NYT and WaPo stress such attacks much more than comparable papers outside the West. Actually, the NYT coming out ferociously against Mamdani in the NYC mayor’s race gives you a strong idea of where American society is headed.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 19 2025 13:14 utc | 32

‘Marandi is a true hero.’
I didn’t think anything had happened to him yesterday when he had to evacuate the building he was in. But I was a little scared admittedly.
I was very happy to see him back on live again soon after!

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 19 2025 13:15 utc | 33

@b,
With all due respect, but was there something wrong about my now deleted comment? It was not meant as trolling…?
Apologies if you misunderstood my intent.
[b here – you doubted my claim that the majority of Muslims around the Gulf is Shia.
You did that by counting countries. I counted people.]

Posted by: jure | Jun 19 2025 13:17 utc | 34

Posted by: b | Jun 19 2025 12:26 utc | 1
Thank you for your efforts and diligence. There is a browser plugin to filter the content of a website being loaded. With a configuration line like
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you remove the comments of the troll (and most of the troll feeding responses).

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 19 2025 13:18 utc | 35

There’s a lot of ‘ifs’ here but does anyone see a timing problem within Israel? IF Congress asserts itself to stop Trump, at least for a while
Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 19 2025 13:11 utc | 29
Ahahaha! Congrats, most people here are not THAT unfamiliar with the US Congress. If there was the slightest chance that the bill to “restrain” President Trump would pass, AIPAC would absolutely make it a litmus test issue. The Democrats are just posing, and they’re not even doing it well.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 19 2025 13:18 utc | 36

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 19 2025 13:09 utc | 26
Not the first, nor the last.
Tass sometimes goes that way, particularly if israel is directly or indirectly involved
But then you also have some clear communication https://tass.com/politics/1976335
Russia warns US against interfering in military actions against Iran — MFA
Maria Zakharova said that it would be an extremely dangerous step with unpredictable negative consequences

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 19 2025 13:19 utc | 37

Is it plausible that the Israeli hospital was hit by Israel itself, by which logic Israel will continue to do this? Furthermore, that the evidence, either way, is fully, as in sub-officially, controlled by the Israeli security state, and that the Western MSM has been given the relevant instructions, at the level of their respective executives, that the direction of their propaganda should tilt decisively towards “informational” preparation for a combined US-Israeli war with Iran, seconded by at least the UK and Germany, on the basis of such “anti-humanitarian attacks” by “Iran”?

Posted by: Ludovic | Jun 19 2025 13:20 utc | 38

@27 Newbie
“Interesting how trolls are trying to target…”
Equally just posting names commentators will react to defend, or that they have opinion on that will take up space or cause disruption. It would be a fair discussion … but not really OT on a busy thread.
Probably just making sure US taxpayers get their penny’s worth, or something like that…
😇

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 19 2025 13:21 utc | 39

It has been dangerous since the Zionist terrorists launched their unprovoked attack on Iran.

Posted by: Steve | Jun 19 2025 13:22 utc | 40

What goes around comes around – maybe there was Zionist base underneath it – the British MSM have reported the hospital hit, non-stop today.
Netanyahu on Sky news now, saying its terrible targeting a hospital and civilians – and he has the chutzpah to say it with a straight face.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 19 2025 13:26 utc | 41

Simplicius has a new piece out. It’s pretty comprehensive, but most of it is behind a paywall.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/iranian-abyss-will-us-take-the-plunge
A question for the bar. Both China and Russia have developed missile systems that hide inside shipping containers, the Russian one is called Club K. What do you think the odds are that Russia and China already have anti ship missiles and/or AD in Iran?

Posted by: team10tim | Jun 19 2025 13:26 utc | 42

Posted by: team10tim | Jun 19 2025 13:26 utc | 42
Iran is a very proud nation. So – no.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 19 2025 13:28 utc | 43

What stops Iran from taking out the Israeli’s defence minister and Netanyahu out first? The sheer arrogance and stupidity of the Zionists is mind-boggling.

Posted by: Steve | Jun 19 2025 13:29 utc | 44

Sorry for the Iranians who wrote a long communique that Trump will not read and will be distorted in everyday – they could have written a short communique. Me I would just have written a one word note to the US: “No.”

Posted by: ISL | Jun 19 2025 13:31 utc | 45

What stops Iran from taking out the Israeli’s defence minister and Netanyahu out first? The sheer arrogance and stupidity of the Zionists is mind-boggling.
Posted by: Steve | Jun 19 2025 13:29 utc | 44
These weasels are running around too quickly to be hit.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 19 2025 13:31 utc | 46

But hey, maybe Zakharova and President VVP are only posturing while Russia secretly floods Iran with military aid. I guess people have to dream.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 19 2025 13:02 utc | 20
I’m just guessing like many in the bar. If the stories about the “mysterious” planes going to Iran from the East are true then we have something to feel positive about.
The map here suggests in my opinion that “Help Iran China” is not out of the question.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/charts-of-the-week-chinas-belt-and-road-initiative/
I put my money on Russia helping them because if Iran was to fall it would be worst than having Chechenia full of madmen that they had to deal with in the past.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 19 2025 13:32 utc | 47

What stops Iran from taking out the Israeli’s defence minister and Netanyahu out first? The sheer arrogance and stupidity of the Zionists is mind-boggling.
Posted by: Steve | Jun 19 2025 13:29 utc | 44
The west would cry about it. Yes, it’s a double standard, but that sort of BS plays well in the west.

Posted by: team10tim | Jun 19 2025 13:32 utc | 48

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 19 2025 13:33 utc | 49

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 19 2025 13:33 utc | 49
I guess this American jew could possibly have a different take if he was in Israel hiding in a bunker, more or less, night and day.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 19 2025 13:36 utc | 50

The gambit of crying “civilians targeted” will make for plenty of hysterics but won’t change the calculus of whether the US enters the war.
That calculus will be based on US assessments of likely repercussions for their direct bombing of Iranian sites as well as the likely success of the operation.
The US has been relying on Israel intelligence claims that 2/3 of Iranian missiles have been destroyed. Iran’s more aggressive salvo last night may be a warning to the US not to trust Israeli intelligence. By escalating, and using a new, multi-headed rocket in doing so, Iran is demonstrating to the US that they retain capacities they have not used and that the US does not know about.
I wonder if the US will try to negotiate a “symbolic” strike on Iran, which will be responded to by a precoordinated “response” by Iran, after which the US will declare “victory” and will return to negotiations. However unlikely this seems, it would allow Trump to save face and “get involved,” while also allowing Iran to successfully avoid an all out bombing campaign by the US, which would cause much damage and loss of life.
The Israelis will hate this, as they will be told by the US that if they continue to bombard Iran they are left on their own.
I don’t see this happening myself. I think the US will make a great error and enter the war, but it is a possibility.

Posted by: WJ | Jun 19 2025 13:37 utc | 51

Depraved the U.S. clown in chief suggesting a holy man be assassinated. Same evil from a Zionist bureaucrat.
There is no evil beyond that of big satan and it’s little demon

Posted by: paddy | Jun 19 2025 13:39 utc | 52

“Another question that I haven’t seen raised elsewhere is what happened to Hizbollah? Were they completely wiped out and all of their rockets destroyed? that seems odd to me as even Hamas was able to launch one of their homemade rockets not too long ago. Could it be that they are waiting for the complete collapse of the so-called Iron Dome before they pull those rockets out of where ever they have hidden them?”
Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 19 2025 12:40 utc | 7
I think they are ‘tag teaming’: Houthis go for awhile, they hand off to Hizbollah, now Ian is taking a turn.
I beliewve it is to build up when they aren’t participating and, as well, confuse the IDF.

Posted by: canuk | Jun 19 2025 13:40 utc | 53

https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/iranian-abyss-will-us-take-the-plunge?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1351274&post_id=166124276&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=1rv57p&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Update by Simplicius.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 19 2025 13:40 utc | 54

The US has been relying on Israel intelligence claims that 2/3 of Iranian missiles have been destroyed.
Posted by: WJ | Jun 19 2025 13:37 utc | 51
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These morons are so far up their own assholes they don’t know whether it is day or night.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 19 2025 13:40 utc | 55

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 19 2025 13:11 utc | 29
Sir, please. We are here to doompost. Or demand Russia, China, Hezbullah or Santa Clause to do ‘something’.
Joke aside, yes. Waiting for Israel to be flattened like Gaza is a weird strategy for the US to ‘certainly 100% sending Iran to the stone age’.

Posted by: kspr | Jun 19 2025 13:41 utc | 56

By all accounts Netanyahu is a dying man.
Other accounts tell that he believes himself charged with a divine mission on behalf of Eretz Israel.
This makes him very dangerous to the rest of us.
Maybe sanity will break out in the Holy Land and regime change will occur.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 19 2025 13:42 utc | 57

Iran has taken lessons from the Russia-Ukraine conflict. It has decided that instead of a shock and awe missile attack (despite the rhetoric) they opted for a long drawn out war of attrition that Israel is not prepared for.
Just like Russia understood that it would eventually be attacked so too did Iran. Just like Russia prepared for a long drawn out war of attrition so too has Iran. Just like Russia is prepared to go the distance so is Iran. Between Ukraine and Israel Western AD is going to be bled dry.
Trump is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Not attack and lose his donors and attack and lose his voter base. Carlson, Bannon and MTG coming out against him has surely hurt him politically.

Posted by: Down South | Jun 19 2025 13:42 utc | 58

And here we go again on why not take out Benjamin, yesterday was Zely and so on.
There is no reason to take off, so called, leaders.
Did the advertised decapitation strike on Iran change anything?
Simply answer NO.
More elaborated one, punching on Israel has continued and possibly worsened and Iran people stand by their government as before if not more.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 19 2025 13:42 utc | 59

🇮🇱Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu:
“There are personal costs in war, people were hurt, it didn’t go unnoticed by my family, my son even canceled a wedding.”

what? afraid that someone might bomb one of YOUR weddings for a change?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 19 2025 13:43 utc | 60

“Defense Minister: Taking out Khamenei, ‘the modern Hitler,’ is a goal of the operation”
This Israeli Offence Minister is aping his American crime partners in Goebbelsian DoubleSpeak.
The coveted “Modern Hitler”™ label belongs to the ruler of a country that is committing a live-streamed genocide of Palestinian civilians (including children) involving bombing, starvation, and ethnic cleansing campaigns–all armed, sponsored, supported by the war criminal American Empire, which itself has been bombing, invading, sanctioning, and destroying nations around the world for generations, if not longer.
The modern Nazi nations come cloaked behind the mask of “Freedom and Democracy” in order to commit their crimes against humanity.
Posted by: ak74 | Jun 19 2025 13:06 utc | 24
Took the words out of my mouth. Classic Zio: they murder a child and scream child murderer at you.
The west can maintain its increasingly ineffective information bubble, but the worlds population knows very well, backed with loads of live streamed video evidence, who the new genocidal, myth motivated, racial supremacists on the block are.
The Zionists are in fact more dangerous than Hitler for they are uniformly backed by the ruling class of every Western nation, control all Western media and educational institutions and are so brazen and sick as to publicly revel in their mass murder of innocent women and children.
Israel delenda est!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 19 2025 13:43 utc | 61

It seems dual passport holders are able to ditch israel, but not the lower orders of Israeli Jews. Comfirm ?

Posted by: Exile | Jun 19 2025 13:43 utc | 62

ChatNPC | Jun 19 2025 13:42 utc | 57
“By all accounts Netanyahu is a dying man.”
Well Putin’s been diagnosed with at least six major and fatal illnesses by the MSM, so I’ll not wait up.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 19 2025 13:47 utc | 63

Re: complicit Journalists
Will be eligible for the Julius Streicher trophy
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Julius-Streicher

Posted by: Exile | Jun 19 2025 13:47 utc | 64

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 19 2025 13:47 utc | 65

‘Tass sometimes goes that way, particularly if israel is directly or indirectly involved
But then you also have some clear communication https://tass.com/politics/1976335 ‘
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 19 2025 13:19 utc | 37
Newbie, yes, I recognize that. I am in over my head here and I ought to stop speculating and trying to figure things out.
That said, here I go again.
If true, this would seem to indicate an attack is imminent:
‘usa is 100% going to attack Iran. Planet Labs PBC satellite data shows usaf emptying the base in qatar and usn emptying the base in bahrain. I just saw an Atlas air cargo aircraft going from kuwait to ramstein…the ships will exit the Straits of Hormuz in a day or 2…’
Posted by: Sal | Jun 19 2025 11:27 utc | 875
Futures seem to be factoring it in now for the first time:
https://www.tradingview.com/x/jQ3a4Qjq/
My god.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 19 2025 13:47 utc | 66

Can anyone here help me remember the name of the figure who was known as an international playboy in the 1950s and ’60s and was also the top leader of Islam?
Posted by: Jane | Jun 19 2025 13:08 utc | 25
“Yes, you’re likely thinking of Prince Aly Khan, the father of Aga Khan IV.
Prince Aly Khan (1911–1960) was a prominent international figure in the 1940s and 1950s, known for his glamorous lifestyle, high-profile romances (including marriage to actress Rita Hayworth), and status as a jet-setter. He was often described as an “international playboy.”
More importantly in the religious context:
Aly Khan was the son of Aga Khan III, the spiritual leader (Imam) of the Nizari Ismaili Muslims, a branch of Shia Islam.
While Aly Khan was not the Imam himself, his son, Aga Khan IV (Shah Karim al-Husayni), became the 49th Imam of the Nizari Ismailis in 1957, succeeding his grandfather Aga Khan III.
Aga Khan IV is the current Imam and a major religious, philanthropic, and development leader.
So while Aly Khan was closely associated with Islamic leadership, he was not the top religious figure himself — but he was the heir apparent for a time and deeply involved in the community through his lineage.”

Posted by: canuk | Jun 19 2025 13:47 utc | 67

“Israel delenda est!”
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 19 2025 13:43 utc | 61
You are the modern Cato the Elder!

Posted by: canuk | Jun 19 2025 13:48 utc | 68

Posted by: Exile | Jun 19 2025 13:43 utc | 62
No info to confirm but I will not be surprised.
When war is incumbent, those that are smart and whealty enough escape and maybe they are the perpetrators.
Those who stay are dumb or, more often, have no means to escape.
This kept happening in centuries.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 19 2025 13:49 utc | 69

Tel Aviv… Ordinary Jews are shouting at IDF soldiers, it’s all because of you… No one asked you to attack Iran…

video for those that can use telegram

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 19 2025 13:50 utc | 70

It seems dual passport holders are able to ditch israel, but not the lower orders of Israeli Jews. Comfirm ?
Posted by: Exile | Jun 19 2025 13:43 utc | 62
The asylum and refugee legislation of each individual country should now come into play.
It would be highly irregular if any non-dual passport-holding israeli was able to walk through immigration into his/her country of choice without submitting to formal refugee claimant procedures …
(i.e, it would indicate how compromised the “host” country is)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 19 2025 13:51 utc | 71

That calculus will be based on US assessments of likely repercussions for their direct bombing of Iranian sites as well as the likely success of the operation.
Posted by: WJ | Jun 19 2025 13:37 utc | 51
According to Prof. Postol from MIT in this interview, dropping those bunker busters can be done but the probability of getting the desired result is low because there are so many unknows. It all looks simple on a diagram or a cartoon but another thing to pull it off in situ. Iran has had many decades to study this issue and war game it.
Listen at 23:30 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6dZMMvRegQ&ab_channel=DialogueWorks

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 19 2025 13:51 utc | 72

Mario @ 50
The man whose conversation I report speaks daily to relatives in Haifa and Tel Aviv who run to shelters many times daily.
It makes no difference. These people are thick. Very thick. Intellectual inertia is total. Present them with facts on the ground all day long and they don’t get it. They can’t get it. They will die not knowing their delusions were ever challenged.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 19 2025 13:51 utc | 73

@ Total 19
You have two main points, both of which happen to be wrong.
1. “Iran has to be more forceful: decapitating Israeli leadership , taking out more Israeli bases and blocking Straits of Hormuz. …”
2. “Iran has also done itself a disservice in portraying itself as a theocratic, conservative state. That means the Average Joe in the West sees them as typical ragheads ; which means trouble.”
My response:
1. Iran does not want and doesn’t need escalation. Israel is already losing the war at the current pace, and escalation would only give the empire an excuse for more direct military intervention. Closing the Straits of Hormuz, as you suggest, is one of Iran’s big cards and will only be played if necessary, only as a response to further Israeli escalation.
2. No one in Iran gives a rat’s ass what some retards in America think about Iran’s government. American’s can’t even fix their own damn country, so they get zero respect. Yes, some percentage of “Muricans drink the Zionist Kool-Aid, but that’s America’s sickness, not some tune played on the shofar that Iranians should even think about dancing to.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Jun 19 2025 13:54 utc | 74

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 19 2025 13:50 utc | 70
Meanwhile:
— 🇮🇷 A completely liberal Iranian woman in Tehran, who doesn’t even wear Hijab (illegal), shouts ‘Death to Israel, victory comes from Allah, F*ck you Netanyahu, F*ck you!’
@Middle_East_Spectator
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20379

Posted by: kspr | Jun 19 2025 13:55 utc | 75

@58,
Bombing them to the Stone Age was so Vietnam….
In 1979 for Iran it was “bugs and gas up their a$$, nuke ‘em til they glow”
Well US did provide Saddam the gas.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 19 2025 13:56 utc | 76

@b,
thanks for the clarification. Although I only named those three countries, I also meant the % of the total population in the whole of the Middle East as well (including Egypt, Turkey, etc.) not just the Gulf region, as you did not mention the Gulf in the opening sentence (“The majority of Muslim in the Middle East are Shia.”) so our thoughts went in different directions. C’est la vie… and sorry for the confusion.

Posted by: jure | Jun 19 2025 13:56 utc | 77

Reports of around 10 new missiles launch.

Posted by: JH | Jun 19 2025 13:57 utc | 78

These crackpots are waiting for their “mashiah” (messiah) so, if I understood well, means they need to create some sort of apocalyptic apocalyse with foam and bubbles.
I was wondering, and maybe some expert of Roman history could shed a light, maybe it is a translation mistake, the original message was that they have to wait for their “macchiato” with foam and bubbles.
So, actually, Starbucks could deliver a few million cups to these crackpots to calm them down, and we would have peace in West Asia.
I may deserve the Peace Nobel Price for pointing that out…

Posted by: Asian Frog | Jun 19 2025 13:59 utc | 79

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 19 2025 13:51 utc | 73
He will get it when no one will answer his call because his relatives didn’t make it to the shelter.
Sorry to be harsh but if they are so thick they deserve it.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 19 2025 14:00 utc | 80

Speaking to an American Jew this a.m.
“Nothing is happening. Everything is the same as it has always been. Every now and then the Arabs get over-excited. We know how to calm them down. We have this under control.”
Um, Iran is Persian, not Arab.
“Amalek is Amalek. They are all the same. They are just children. We know how to calm down children.”
There is no hope for this level of stupidity. Speaker is extremely well connected. Only thing to do is present them with fait accompli.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 19 2025 13:33 utc | 49
———————————————————
To me that has been evident for quite some time. There is only one cure for this: Gazacide, as much as I hate to see it happen.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 19 2025 14:01 utc | 81

“Israel delenda est!”
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 19 2025 13:43 utc | 61
You are the modern Cato the Elder!
Posted by: canuk | Jun 19 2025 13:48 utc | 68
If only I had the modern equivalent of the Roman army at my disposal!
yet, there is such a power on earth today which could and would like to crush the wicked, enemies of humanity in Israel. It numbers in the billions, suffers under this Zio dominated system uniformly but is only semi conscious of its historical power and role in history after years of political and general miseducation.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 19 2025 14:03 utc | 82

“Preventing the existence of Khamenei, the modern Hitler – one of the goals of the operation,” – Defense Minister Israel Katz
Neocon narrative at full volume. Smells like desperation.

Posted by: frithguild | Jun 19 2025 14:05 utc | 83

Mario @ 80
You are not harsh. You are correct.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 19 2025 14:05 utc | 84

I think the majority of the Muslim people in the ME are Sunni, with Shia a significant minority, and the Muslim countries in the ME that are majority Sunni outweigh the number of countries that are Shia. There are only 3 countries in the ME that are majority Shia – Iran, Iraq, and Azerbaijan.
Still, the assassination of the Ayatollah would be an insult and a crime in any case, no matter the religion. It’s amazing that there are countries that boast about planning assassinations of foreign leaders.

Posted by: teri | Jun 19 2025 14:07 utc | 85

Stereotyping is as old as the hills. There will always be and continue to be ingroups and outgroups.
Skin color, belief system, alien/foreign, linguistic, there will always be attributes of sufficient strength to create and maintain a stereotype or its milder version, a sociotype.
WW II Japanese were depicted as bucktoothed, wearing thick glasses. The Hun was an easy stereotype some hundred years ago.
US Senator Fulbright was one of those Americans who thought that more exposure and international travel would reduce typecasting. He was right.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 19 2025 14:08 utc | 86

reply to 36
Oh, I get your point. As Pat Buchanan said, ‘Congress is Israeli occupied territory”. Heck, they paid 20 million to defeat Bowman and that was just a primary.
Still, they can delay the whole mess, first by debating about debating. Time is becoming critical for Israel. Take note of various comments in Congress/Senate even from Republicans of little to no enthusiasm for this mess.
Simplicius is especially good stuff with lots of insights. His assertions about how pathetic Israel’s air war actually is – is shocking. Iran is learning from Russia in Ukraine. Speak diplomatically and no blitzkreig, just grinding israel down. A potential devastating strategy? Keep Israel in the shelters constantly. Fire just enough stuff to never let them come out. Their economy is losing about a billion a day.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 19 2025 14:12 utc | 87

The sperm like trail is because it did NOT leave, it’s skimming as the Oreshnik (fully ballistic you only get the twilight effect at most)
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 19 2025 13:10 utc | 27
That video of what was reported to be an “oreshnik” missile was in fact another spacecraft launched around the same time that was misidentified as the Russian MRBM by folks on twitter and the blogosphere ran with it.
This caused analysts who believed it was the Russian weapon to speculate that the Oreshnik was a variant of Russia’s new SLBM (name eludes me at the moment) however we know now that this was a case of mistaken identity and there are no videos of the Oreshnik in flight.
Unfortunately any similarities with an Iranian missile’s vapour trail and the Russian Oreshnik is based on flawed intelligence.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 19 2025 14:13 utc | 88

Reflections on Iraq and Afghan ad Vietnam among Bannon and Tucker mentioned the self deception. No where along the reporting line are there incentives to say, “everything is fucked”. The government/military decieved itself, and more so the people. Add the immense hubris and supremacism of the Israelis, the media block out, their collective denial and silly “pluck” earned off years of occupation, abuse and bravely fending off bottle rockets from Gaza.
The Israelis are keeping their people hostage, this is already a trickle it will go like a dam or levee, a trickle becomes a crack becomes utter failure. Soon Israel will be a garrison state, with no real civilians. The game of musical chairs is on, the organ grinder plays, two chairs are being pulled, Blue and Yellow, Blue and White. The US empire is finished, Uncle Sam doesn’t know what to do with his empty pockets, and hands, no where to sit and a long way from home.
This isn’t a defeat for Trump’s vision of “hemispheric defense” as Bannon put it. Let Trump focus on Greenland, Panama, and Canada. (it only matters if it’s a narrative he can plausibly sell, let’s hope he does, motivating him MAGA base. He could kill in the midterms if he walks on Israel, the Democrats would be finished.
Or, he can preside over WW3. I’m not a Trump fan, but he’s our president, hopeful narratives are important to maintain, they can become viral. JFK knew you had to have at least a narrative where each side can claim a win. But sometimes you have you let your offensive buddy take an ass whooping too.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 19 2025 14:17 utc | 89

I’m seeing reports of cluster bombs (“cluster warheads”) being used by Iran against Tel Aviv.
If true (which I highly doubt) this would raise the level of pain to an unimaginable level.
If true, this would expand the meaning of “Pyrrhic” to more than just a rhetorical device but meaningful in every possible sense of the word!
Tel Aviv, Haifa, Ashdod, seeded with bomblets like Southern Lebanon, requiring years of careful recovery – imagine that!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 19 2025 14:18 utc | 90

Without Ayatollah Khamenei Iran would have had a nuclear weapon a decade ago. It is the Ayatollah’s fatwa banning the development of nuclear weapons as supreme evil devices that Israel can be grateful for at this moment.
And they want to kill him. Go figure.

Posted by: Moses22 | Jun 19 2025 14:20 utc | 91

Still, the assassination of the Ayatollah would be an insult and a crime in any case, no matter the religion. It’s amazing that there are countries that boast about planning assassinations of foreign leaders.
Posted by: teri | Jun 19 2025 14:07 utc | 85
assassinations of RELIGIOUS foreign leaders
even in iran the Ayatollah is probably more of a supreme court than military or political leader
yes, he can vet or even issue rulings but more as a supreme court would (because in muslim countries the words of the prophet are the highest law) .
The pope should say something abut that. If religious leaders are fair game…

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 19 2025 14:23 utc | 92

Is there any decent analysis of what the closing Hormuz would actually likely precipitate? Particularly, would it harm some of Iran’s friends to some extent too, rather than merely the stated foes?

Posted by: Call it what u will | Jun 19 2025 14:26 utc | 93

Call it what u will | Jun 19 2025 14:26 utc | 93
Iran has a loading terminal south of the straits of Hormuz. How long that would last against Israeli air I know not.
(But since Iran hit their refinery I think Israel have avoided oil infrastructure.)

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 19 2025 14:29 utc | 94

Bill Ackman says that China sending cargo planes to Iran is “not a good look”.
https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1935446867459924271
I wonder if he’ll ever get a reality check.
Posted by: Afro | Jun 19 2025 12:38 utc | 5
Bill Ackman. Very afraid his wife’s relatives in Israel just ate a grenade. Not fully versed on the Decline and Fall of the American Empire. Keenly aware of the coming repercussions in the American Political System bleeding the base of American cohesion dry. Wondering if there can be real money made from some sleazy play that he has yet figured out. Master Skimmer and Churner, never built anything.

Posted by: kupkee | Jun 19 2025 14:31 utc | 95

I’m learning.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/links-6-19-2025.html#comment-4231954
Thank you ‘b’ Newbie and everyone.

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 19 2025 14:32 utc | 96

WW II Japanese were depicted as bucktoothed, wearing thick glasses. The Hun was an easy stereotype some hundred years ago.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 19 2025 14:08 utc | 86
Yep !!!
“Think Fast, Mr. Moto is a 1937 film directed by Norman Foster and featuring a mysterious Japanese detective named Mr. Moto. It is the first of eight films in the Mr. Moto series, all based on the character Mr. Moto created by John P. Marquand. The film stars Peter Lorre as the title character, Virginia Field, Thomas Beck and Sig Ruman. Mr. Moto works to stop a secret smuggling operation.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhSJ52qLcsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=522qtqjSagM
But special people get special treatment
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d5Od84ZWjr0
It’s All A Circus Act, and we are just the spectators.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 19 2025 14:33 utc | 97

Russia’s president yesterday saying that Iran has every right to pursue peaceful nuclear activity is a pretty big deal. I hope he opens up a debate on why Israel should have nuclear weapons and Iran should not.

Posted by: chunga | Jun 19 2025 14:33 utc | 98

So Hitler is again used in speech by a member of the War Cabinet…….any opponent of the Palestinian occupiers is auto Hitler…..anyone!
The attack on IDF Intell C4i HQ is a legit military target……..correct? Some hospital windows blown out, no one murdered nearby.
Compare with tank fire, missile and machine gun attacks on Gaza hospitals in which thousands of doctors, nurses, cnas, patients, counselors, staff and war refugees have been murdered. The IDF murdered 1K folks at the American Baptist Hospital alone, and then bulldozed their bodies using US made Cat D9 Armored bulldozers. How is that for a war crime.
The MSM immediately memory holed these incidents…..but blown out window in an Israeli hospital sparks world wide outrage? LOFL
Apparently the IDF can throw a punch but cant take a punch……..

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 19 2025 14:33 utc | 99

Reports that a military target was just hit in Kiryat, Haifa.

Posted by: JH | Jun 19 2025 14:34 utc | 100

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