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June 18, 2025
Tic-Toc Thread On The War On Iran – 4

Alastair Crooke is summarizing the first days of USrael's war on Iran:

The situation in the broadest terms is that the attempt by Israel and allied Intelligence services to launch a surprise ‘synergistic psychic-shock’ to the Iranian state through simultaneous muti-domain decapitations, assassinations of scientists, disruption of Air Defence systems and the insertion of drone saboteur teams, failed.

It failed in its expected outcome — that of paralysing and panicking the Iranian leadership and even creating the space for ‘the hoped for’ regime-change vibe to take hold. (It never happened. Iranians buried political differences and rallied to national sovereignty).

Rather, despite the loss of eight military line commanders, the system quickly re-booted itself: the Air Defence systems were restored within 8 hours, and Iran retaliated with missile attacks on Israel.

The point here was that – other than superficial surface damage – there was no setback made to Iran’s nuclear programme. And to be clear, that was never the Israeli aim. They simply do not have the ability to destroy infrastructure buried 800 metres into mountains. They (with their allies — the US and European States) rather hope for ‘regime change’.

[…]

So, the situation has inverted from that of 13 June. Israel now is in big trouble: Its Air Defences are performing badly and it is Israel sustaining (verified) substantive damage to key assets. Basically, every politician in Israel now is begging the US to enter the war for them.

Israeli Minister & Cabinet member, Gila Gamliel: “We categorically demand that the United States join the war against Iran”.

While it first looked yesterday as if Trump may join the war with more overt action that changed after a meeting with his national security council.

As Larry Johnson observes:

Trump continued his intemperate postings on Truth Social until he convened a meeting of his National Security Council in Washington, DC this afternoon.

Something happened in that meeting to derail what seemed to be an inevitable collision with Iran because Trump’s subsequent social media posts only focused on mundane domestic matters, such as erecting two new flag poles on the White House grounds. I have seen one news item claiming that Trump is giving Iran 24 hours to surrender. That ain’t going to happen.

Ayatollah Khamenei confirms that this "ain't going to happen":

Khamenei.ir @khamenei_ir – 11:18 UTC · Jun 18, 2025

The US President threatens us. With his absurd rhetoric, he demands that the Iranian people surrender to him.
They should make threats against those who are afraid of being threatened. The Iranian nation isn’t frightened by such threats.

Since the first day of the war there have been waves of attacks by Israeli forces against Iran each followed by a wave of missile attacks by Iranian forces. Neither side has sufficient air defenses to prevent all hits. Neither side has air supremacy over the territory of the other country.

Iran has intercepted long range drones from Israel. It claims to have shot down several F-35 airplanes but has shown no proof for that. Israel has made claims of having hit Iranian missile launchers. But the video evidence of such strikes is poor and many hits seem to have been on decoys.

The tit for tat strike exchange is likely to continue for a while. Iran has several thousand of missiles. It is firing a mix of old ones, which can be intercepted, with a number of new ones which can't. It has changed its tactic from one big strike per day to multiple strikes per day with smaller numbers.

Israel's air defense seems prone to hit itself. The number of interceptors it is using is limited the Wall Street journal says (archived). It may be less than two weeks before those run out.

Israel claims to have launched some 800 sorties against Iran with which it hit 1,000 targets. It also claims that Iran has fired 400 missiles and 1,000 drones of which only 20 missiles reached their targets while only 200 drones reached Israel but did not hit anywhere. I can assure you that none of those numbers is true.

Both sides censor the results of strikes. From what is known both appear to have taken some significant damage.

But Iran is the much bigger country. It has more than ten times the people than Israel. Its area is 1.5 million square kilometer versus Israel's 21,000 square kilometer. Iran is mostly self sufficient. It has a widely dispersed industry and a well trained work force which can be switched from civil to military production. Israel depends on imports which can be interrupted. Its industry is small and highly concentrated in a few areas.

There is no doubt that Iran would win in a (long) war of attrition.

That is why Israel needs the U.S. to jump in.

I still have doubt that Trump, despite his rhetoric, is willing to do so. The risk is high and the outcome uncertain. Even if U.S. bombers manage to demolish Iran's centrifuges, buried below mountains, Iran will be able to reconstitute its nuclear program within a few months.

His intelligence people will tell him that this threat is not empty:

Khamenei.ir @khamenei_ir – 11:38 UTC · Jun 18, 2025

The US entering in this matter [war] is 100% to its own detriment. The damage it will suffer will be far greater than any harm that Iran may encounter.

At the UN Security Council Russia and China have taken strong positions against Israel's war of aggression. Neither can be expected to give overt support to Iran – at least not yet. The content of a few transport planes from China arriving in Iran will not change the big picture.

Comments

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 16:10 utc | 88
Nicolai Lilin had a YouTube video in wich he said that Iran had teken down the internet after advise from Russian Intel that Mossad cells were using it to communicate and coordinate actions.
Lilin is generally right but not always so take it with a grain of salt.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 18 2025 16:20 utc | 101

Noirette | Jun 18 2025 16:06 utc | 83
“Why are Israelis blocked from leaving? Reminds me of Palestinians not allowed to leave the concentration camps…Imho because about 2 million or more would flee…”
Reminds me of when Mount Pelee erupted in 1904 and the government set up roadblocks to prevent people from fleeing the capital, I suppose for propaganda purposes (“everything is fine here, no problem”). Everyone died.
If Hitler could have taken the entire German people with him in his suicide he may well have done so. Netanyahu may have the same idea. At any rate, if the war really goes against the Zionists, Nutty certainly will want as many Zionist “civilians” to be killed as possible, to maximize the pressure on the US to enter and take over the war.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Jun 18 2025 16:20 utc | 102

“Unconditional surrender. That means (holding up his hands, indicating what in his mind he projects Iran saying) ‘I’ve had it. Ok, I’ve had it. I give up. No more’. Then we go in and blow up all the nuclear stuff”.

Posted by: bassplayer | Jun 18 2025 16:22 utc | 103

Iran said it was going to televise an interview with a captured Israeli F-35 pilot. It think it was supposed to air last night, or the night before. I was hoping to watch that interview but haven’t seen it anywhere. If Iran doesn’t air the interview after saying it would, that’s an indication they may not have shot down any F-35s.

Posted by: Chas | Jun 18 2025 16:22 utc | 104

Time to admit he lied to you.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 16:05 utc | 82
I doubt he ever stops.
ENJOY THIS ONE
https://mashable.com/video/trump-western-villain-tv-clip
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 16:17 utc | 99
WOW. Thank you for posting this link.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 16:25 utc | 105

That would be just like Starmer – the obedient puppet.
“Britain is considering possible military support if U.S. President Trump orders a strike on Iran.

Prime Minister Keir Starmer is convening a Cobra (emergency) meeting to assess the situation.”
Source – The Times.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 16:16 utc | 97

Time to bomb the base in Cyprus.

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 18 2025 16:26 utc | 106

Given that nuclear weapons are becoming increasingly irrelevant in an age of hypersonic missiles, why doesn’t Iran just take the moral high ground and cancel its nuclear programme? Russia and China can supply Iran with whatever it needs to run a domestic nuclear programme and Iran is going to need to rebuild its infrastructure.
The US will not be able to intervene as it will have achieved its stated objective and Israel will become even more isolated. I am sure Israel will continue and demand Iran gives up its missile programme as well but I can’t see the US going to war for that objective.

Posted by: Norfolk Eagle | Jun 18 2025 16:28 utc | 107

Lilin is generally right but not always so take it with a grain of salt.
Posted by: Mario | Jun 18 2025 16:20 utc | 101
If the civilian internet has been shut down that’s the best course of action.
Military and intelligence networks need to be really carefully monitored.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 18 2025 16:28 utc | 108

Posted by: Mary | Jun 18 2025 16:12 utc | 91
Supposedly Ra-01 not b-2 or b21; easy to confuse though.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/06/tic-toc-thread-on-the-war-on-iran-3.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02e860ecf730200b#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02e860ecf730200b

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 16:31 utc | 109

// …
You ask me: what can I do to support Iranians?
Humanize Iran all over social media! The Western media won’t.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaJC67uG4Sc
// Pause mode: ON

Posted by: Framarz | Jun 18 2025 16:31 utc | 110

Given that nuclear weapons are becoming increasingly irrelevant in an age of hypersonic missiles, why doesn’t Iran just take the moral high ground and cancel its nuclear programme? Russia and China can supply Iran with whatever it needs to run a domestic nuclear programme and Iran is going to need to rebuild its infrastructure.
The US will not be able to intervene as it will have achieved its stated objective and Israel will become even more isolated. I am sure Israel will continue and demand Iran gives up its missile programme as well but I can’t see the US going to war for that objective.
Posted by: Norfolk Eagle | Jun 18 2025 16:28 utc | 107
Why should Iran do anything, especially back down, over the intemporate ravings of a herd of bullies? Sorry, but your suggestion is appeasement and nothing more.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 16:33 utc | 111

Professor Marandi was on a livestream with Nima from Dialogue Works when he was told to evacuate the building and was forced to end the interview just a few moments ago!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43074

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 16:33 utc | 112

WOW. Thank you for posting this link.
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 16:25 utc | 105
If you liked that one then THIS ONE is even better.
“Predictive programming in 1967 show “The News Benders” ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYgw8dUWiMU&ab_channel=markksargent

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 16:35 utc | 113

B: There is no doubt that Iran would win in a (long) war of attrition.
What I find a bit concerning is, how much the number of missiles fired each day has significantly decreased. There may be other reasons than “missile depots hit” – “launch vehicles destroyed” – but the talk of the Iranian government is very hawkish, but the number of fired missiles in the last days didn’t quite add up to the talk. Yesterday there was an announcement of 250 missiles will be fired. Over the night it was less than 40 fired. Of courese I’m aware that both information I read on Telegram (250 and 40) could be bullshit. But the total number overall is probably accurate.
In the link below there is a graphic which shows each day.
https://t.me/intelslava/76511
From the link:
“We can therefore tell that were 2 missile waves in the 13th, for a total of 100 missiles, 80 missiles fired on the 14th, 90 missiles on the 15th, 40 missiles on the 16th, and then small barrages and waves since then.
A total of 450 missiles were fired.
Important to note that the IDF itself states that only 400 missiles were launched.”

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:36 utc | 114

@ Posted by: Norfolk Eagle | Jun 18 2025 16:28 utc | 107
Not a big poker player I take it?

Posted by: fnord | Jun 18 2025 16:37 utc | 115

Norfolk Eagle | Jun 18 2025 16:28 utc | 107
Iran wants to continue enrichment for peaceful purposes, including nuclear power. It is their generally agreed right to do so by international agreement. Russia has offered in the past to take over all enrichment operations outside of Iran, by the Iranians refused, choosing to retain control – as their sovereign right.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 18 2025 16:38 utc | 116

From Cyberspec news Telegram channel:

Hossein Yazdanpanah, the leader of the Kurdish organization Freedom Party in Iran, has declared his support for Israeli attacks from the Iraqi city of Erbil and his readiness to take part in an attack on the Islamic Republic.

Now they will unleash everything they’ve got against the ayatollahs.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jun 18 2025 16:40 utc | 117

“An Iranian delegation for negotiation may have just landed in Muscat, Oman…”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 16:00 utc | 79
_______
If it’s indeed a delegation for negotiation, I suggest the following rewrite:
“An Iranian target for assassination may have just landed in Muscat, Oman…”

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 18 2025 16:40 utc | 118

I am disgusted by the comments I see by Russians regarding colonial Israel’s attack on Iran. It truly shows how they do not care about the evil colonial state’s sick behavior. It explains alot why Putin still supports the evil state while pretending to condemn it on the world stage.

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 18 2025 16:42 utc | 119

If you liked that one then THIS ONE is even better.
“Predictive programming in 1967 show “The News Benders” ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYgw8dUWiMU&ab_channel=markksargent
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 16:35 utc | 113
HOLY SHIT. Thank you. Sure changes the perspective. Thank you again!

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 16:43 utc | 120

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:36 utc | 114
Looks like the posting on Intel Slava has already been deleted, just moments after I posted it @114
Maybe because the original was from “Mediterranean Man” Telegram
Here is the Source: https://t.me/medmannews/25320
Credit for the text below (and @114) goes also to “Mediterranean Man” Telegram:
“We can therefore tell that were 2 missile waves in the 13th, for a total of 100 missiles, 80 missiles fired on the 14th, 90 missiles on the 15th, 40 missiles on the 16th, and then small barrages and waves since then.
A total of 450 missiles were fired.
Important to note that the IDF itself states that only 400 missiles were launched.”

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:43 utc | 121

I looked again at Prof. Postol’s presentation found here
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 15:44 utc | 64
This is the paper he discusses.
https://www.mdpi.com/1996-1944/15/22/7871
Note it is all Chinese. Iranians are surely right behind with these ideas.
Trump better invite him for a chat because he’s in for a surprise.
On a second thought, I doubt they care about “facts”.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 16:45 utc | 122

Given that nuclear weapons are becoming increasingly irrelevant in an age of hypersonic missiles, why doesn’t Iran just take the moral high ground and cancel its nuclear programme? Russia and China can supply Iran with whatever it needs to run a domestic nuclear programme.
Posted by: Norfolk Eagle | Jun 18 2025 16:28 utc | 107
Iran does not have a nuclear weapons programme, as per the USA’s own Intel agencies. It has the right, as all countries, to pursue nuclear energy for civilian purposes and nobody can tell it not to.
Given, also, that its archenemy is armed, illegally, with nuclear weapons, an Iranian nuclear weapons programme would be understandable.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jun 18 2025 16:45 utc | 123

Iran has said that Hezbollah will be activated if America gets in.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 16:46 utc | 124

Iraq has launched a missile with a big plasma halo, and it is passing over Iraq.
I forget the names, but I think this is one of the newer ones. Koramashar or something like that.
As usual, everyone back to the shelters.
UNTENABLE.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 16:48 utc | 125

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:36 utc | 114
I was concerned about Iran’s small volleys too, until I read that Iran has calculated that it is more effective and psychological draining for them to fire several volleys of 4-6 missiles over the course of the day, then 1 or 2 large volleys. Each of this missiles requires Israel to fire anywhere between 4-10 anti-air missiles in response, and so far at least 1 or 2 per volley have been hitting their military targets. This Iran has concluded is the best way to slowly drain Israel’s air defenses while reserving its own capacity to surprise with a large scale attack at some point in the future.

Posted by: WJ | Jun 18 2025 16:48 utc | 126

Iran launched, and it is passing over Iraq.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 16:49 utc | 127

It looks a LOT like an Oreshnik.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 16:50 utc | 128

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:43 utc | 121
Or Intel Slava deleted the link, because there are errors in the graphic! grrrrrr
It shows for example 130 missiles launched on the 14th (in three waves), but they mention “80 missiles fired on the 14th”.
Sorry to the bar, I should have checked the graphic beforehand.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:51 utc | 129

Iran launched, and it is passing over Iraq.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 16:49 utc | 127
It looks like a giant sperm. Someone’s about to f—d.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 18 2025 16:51 utc | 130

I think it is demonstrating the range of Iranian missiles.
ICBMs.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 16:51 utc | 131

From Al Manar

19:46 Sirens sounded in Tel Aviv in anticipation of Iranian missile fire

Will Trump get the message?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 18 2025 16:51 utc | 132

Does anybody have a clue what the throw weight capabilities of the combatants are?
AI sources tell me that the F35 load out is 5,700 lbs of ordnance, only a fraction of which is explosive.
Iranian capacities are all over the map.
How much boom can each party bring per volley?

Posted by: too scents | Jun 18 2025 16:53 utc | 133

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 16:51 utc | 131
C’mon man please condense these link free jump scare comments to a single post. This is getting ridiculous.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 16:53 utc | 134

Also for those that think Russia is not doing enough – it was Iran who chose not to enter in to a official mutual defense treaty with Russia.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 18 2025 16:17 utc | 98
That’s interesting. Why do you think they did that? Can you share a source?

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jun 18 2025 16:54 utc | 135

@NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:36 utc | 114
intelslava is a very strange channel. They present only Israel’s perspective of the world, copy-paste from official twitter channels with no proof or the other side’s opinion even though it exists at the time they post it. They sometimes parrot fake news which they never update or correct.
In their defense, I have to say that they claim to be just a Russian news aggregator. Maybe that is what Russian media really looks like

Posted by: rk | Jun 18 2025 16:54 utc | 136

There is an interesting/informative comment thread over at NakedCapitalism that features a link to an angry Colonel Larry Wilkerson with Nima on Dialogue Works yesterday (which may already have been linked to/discussed here).
I was rather harsh on Larry the other day, calling for him to be in a stockade or before a firing squad because he was part and parcel of the Condi Rice-Colin Powell team that lied to the public in order to wage wars in the interest of Israel and ‘the empire’ and globalist elites and billionaires of all stripes and…
But then who the hell am I?
Anyway, I include it here because it is, first and foremost, informative.
Just a little background: ‘Aurelian’ is a guy named David who I think was a former British diplomat/ ambassador. There are many such voices at NC (it includes folks from all walks of life just like here).
I’ll link immediately to the back and forth between Aurelian and Yves Smith but please do read the post in its entirety beginning with Yves’ introduction to Rob Urie’s article.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/rob-urie-as-goes-iran-so-goes-humanity.html#comment-4231411
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiYieN38leo
——
Larry Wilkerson recenly turned eighty years old. He looks pretty damn good for a dude that age. And his mind is sharp as ever.
——
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/plans-for-more-intense-censorship-if-us-joins-israel-attack-on-iran.html#comment-4231361
The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls.
Or a rural overpass. You get the idea. This is where we’re at now.
https://tinyurl.com/2kszwtbt

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 18 2025 16:55 utc | 137

Watch closely
Posted by: Exile | Jun 18 2025 16:10 utc
Iran won’t forget Gaza. Very difficult decisions.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 18 2025 16:56 utc | 138

As a sovereign nation Iran has the right to develop nuclear weapons. I pray they create them.

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 18 2025 16:57 utc | 139

Posted by: Norfolk Eagle | Jun 18 2025 16:28 utc
Because they did that for years via RU, then it invested billions into it’s own full cycle nuclear electric power industry, as well as other local civilian uses in medicine and science research and mobile power that require some higher enrichment in small amounts, which it’s entirely entitled too under NPT, and even without the NPT as a civilization\state. All of the latter they were willing to compromise around to the n’th degree and were negotiating around, and been unequivocal for 23 years it has no interest in producing a weapon (never mind 3 of their regional neighbors have them and none of them have even signed onto the NNPT, let alone take 1% the grief for it).
What they will not comprise on as civilization is being denied basic advancement, fundamental basic enrichment (<5%) for their power plants). The crux of the issue as many have already noted in this thread is this whole thing has almost nothing to do with the nuclear related issue, and is all about reigm change to get control of resources, geography related to trade-routes, the empires hegemony, and for the Zionists the greater Israel project, the nuclear crap is largely just the cover story for manufacturing consent for war.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 16:57 utc | 140

—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 Missile trajectory indicates likely Khorramshahr-4 missile for the first time
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/132020

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 17:00 utc | 141

the nuclear crap is largely just the cover story for manufacturing consent for war.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 16:57 utc | 140
Exactly. Enter the USS Nimitz, 50 years old and due to be decommissioned in 2026. All those US sailors manning the old girl are sitting ducks. Just the way the United States of Isreal likes its prey.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 17:01 utc | 142

Posted by: rert | Jun 18 2025 5:34 utc | 828 (previous thread)
I’m still continuing to track Israel’s attacks on Iran, to see if any trends develop. Since my last tally, I have the following new ones. I’ve also started to add at least some sort of a source indication. I also have a new rule: for an attack to be counted, there must be something more substantial than just “eyewitness account”. I already use it with Iran International, but now it’s expanded more generally. We’ll see if the rule changes.
1. strike on Tehran around 16:20 CEST (MSM)
2. strike on Tehran around 15:30 CEST (MSM)
3. strike on Karaj https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935343294566859007
4. kill of an AD system https://nitter.poast.org/MyLordBebo/status/1935328936960962860
5. kill of some ancient helicopters https://nitter.poast.org/MyLordBebo/status/1935280631031738689
6. attack drone sent https://nitter.poast.org/MyLordBebo/status/1935261932639969283
7. another attack drone https://nitter.poast.org/MyLordBebo/status/1935259530926911589
There was also some report on dozens of air targets being shot down by Iran, but it’s just a report without a source.
DISCLAIMER: while I try to be accurate and comprehensive, I’m just an idiot. This is your official warning.

Posted by: rert | Jun 18 2025 17:01 utc | 143

@rk | Jun 18 2025 16:54 utc | 136
For geopolitical news I often use Telegram channels. So I get a broader picture. Of course I don’t believe everything they say, but I’m surely distrusting the western MSM, this goes back to the “weapon of mass destruction” in Iraq in 2002/2003.
When it comes to the war in Ukraine (but now also for Iran), I check for example Intel Slava, DD Geopolitics and Slavyangrad. But if you or anybody else can recommend other Telegram channels for those topics I’m most thankful.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 17:01 utc | 144

“According to Haaretz, the government instructed domestic airlines not to permit Israeli nationals to board outbound flights.”
So ordered Miliekovsky, from the beaches of Greece.

Posted by: Fred777 | Jun 18 2025 17:01 utc | 145

Wisdom reminds us that in The Fog of War” we must be patient in learning about this sudden attack by Iran. As it stands, most all “talk” may only be “conjecture.”

Posted by: Rubicon | Jun 18 2025 17:02 utc | 146

There is only one reason North Korea is still and independent country.
They have nukes.
Funny how that maligned squarefat saw this coming.
there is a lesson there for any other country!
Better learn, fast.

Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 18 2025 17:02 utc | 147

Funny how that maligned squarefat saw this coming.
there is a lesson there for any other country!
Better learn, fast.
Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 18 2025 17:02 utc | 147
Asians are a different breed.
They don’t get caught up in western moral loops.
They see a threat. They act accordingly.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 18 2025 17:04 utc | 148

May Ayatollah Ali Khamenei outlive the current petty oligarch currently occupying the White House by no less than 96 hours (if not by many years).
Zionism and those supporting need be exterminated.
Israeli Project need be terminated.
One State solution need be promoted.
Restore Palestine.
Now.

Posted by: Formerly T-Bear | Jun 18 2025 17:05 utc | 149

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:36 utc
If there is no AD you can spare the decoys.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 18 2025 17:05 utc | 150

So ordered Miliekovsky, from the beaches of Greece.
Posted by: Fred777 | Jun 18 2025 17:01 utc | 145
What a coward.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 17:06 utc | 151

Interesting article on the AI Slop Fight Between Iran and Israel
Among the interesting points, even the leaders of both countries are sharing AI-generated videos…

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Jun 18 2025 17:07 utc | 152

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 16:36 utc | 114
I was concerned about Iran’s small volleys too, until I (…)
Posted by: WJ | Jun 18 2025 16:48 utc | 126
There is no reason to be concerned about the size of the salvos. What would be cause for concern is the reduction in the amount of damage dealt. But no such thing has happened, as far as I know.
You size the salvo this way: number_to_fire = number_to_hit / (1 – intercept_ratio)
As the intercept ratio goes down (and it went down FOR SURE), you reduce the size of the salvo appropriately. It’s Martyanov 101. xD

Posted by: rert | Jun 18 2025 17:09 utc | 153

Important to put these events in a larger context. In response to Afro at 8, in entering the war Trump may retain the support of Adelman, Ackman and Perlemutter et al, but also may irrevocably alienate supporters from Silicon Valley, Wall Street and, most certainly the general populace who already restive regarding ICE transgressions (masked agents flipping a US Senator to the floor and handcuffing him represents a new low in political trampling on constitutional rights). Treasury has auctions in June 20th and 24th – if previous auctions predict, over 80% will need to be repurchased by US. The overhang of the national debt portends bankruptcy later this summer according to Bessent. Bills are pending in the house and the senate to require advice and consent of Congress before heading into war. With such a war being exceptionally unpopular with the polis, all the representatives and senators up for reelection are taking note. Crashing US security, the economy and political structures simultaneously may not be a good look for those seeking reelection. Wise heads may have suggested to Trump that this is not the most opportune moment to go full bully in West Asia in support of Israel, which appears to be internationally defined in most of the world as a pariah state, owing to its atrocities in Gaza and the West Bank.

Posted by: abierno | Jun 18 2025 17:10 utc | 154

Russia and China are making a big mistake by not immediately sending air defense systems under armed convoy to Iran. A show of force and solidarity from the Global South for Iran will have the greatest deterrence to the American war lords.

Posted by: Keme | Jun 18 2025 17:14 utc | 155

“While the American media and political system fixated on Russian President Vladimir Putin and his armies of cyber warriors, trolls, and bots, what was completely missed in the Russiagate investigation of 2016 was the Israeli connection. No details of it were ever revealed in the heavily redacted Mueller Report. Nor was there any mention of an Israeli plot in the similarly redacted Senate Intelligence Committee Report on collusion charges in the 2016 election, or in any of the indictments or trials stemming from the Russia charges. Nor did any mention of Israeli involvement ever leak into the press. Yet I can reveal here the details of an elaborate covert operation personally directed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that aimed to use secret intelligence to clandestinely intervene at the highest levels in the presidential election on behalf of Trump.”
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/trump-israel-collusion/
The fruits of labor are seen today with how Trump behaves.
He’s dreaming of casinos on the Palestinian beach front properties.
Well I hope he rots in Hell if he attacks Iran.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 17:15 utc | 156

Re: Khorramshahr-4 missile
1,500-1,800 kg warhead
2,000km range
Ballistic missile
First operational 2023
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kheibar_(missile)

Posted by: Exile | Jun 18 2025 17:17 utc | 157

Posted by: Keme | Jun 18 2025 17:14 utc | 155
Those air defense systems take literally months to years to be set up, coordinated, staffed with qualified personnel. You can’t just plug and play a S-400 network.

Posted by: WJ | Jun 18 2025 17:17 utc | 158

A show of force and solidarity from the Global South for Iran will have the greatest deterrence to the American war lords.
Posted by: Keme | Jun 18 2025 17:14 utc | 155
No, it won’t. The war lords in America are stone-cold crazy. Like rabid dogs, crazy. They live in a constant state of fear.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 17:18 utc | 159

Lathe Biosas
I haven’t tracked this back to its source but seems to be a quote from a Tass article.
“Comprehensive Strategic Partnership” on January 17, 2025, Iran’s ambassador to Moscow, Kazem Jalali, openly stated that Iran “is not interested in joining any defence blocs” and prefers to maintain its independence and self-reliance. As a result, this pact does not mirror the mutual defense provisions found in Russia’s agreements with Belarus or North Korea.
“The nature of this agreement is different. They (Belarus and North Korea) established partnership relations (with Moscow) in a number of areas that we did not particularly touch upon. Our country’s independence and security, as well as self-reliance, are extremely important. We are not interested in joining any bloc,”
— Kazem Jalali, Iran’s ambassador to Moscow, as cited by TASS”
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1935299973131722825

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 18 2025 17:18 utc | 160

Re: babkruotcy of federal gov’t ?
Unlikely this summer, but baked-in-the-cake insolvency crisis in 2027

Posted by: Exile | Jun 18 2025 17:19 utc | 161

The USSR supported Saddam in his chemical warfare against Iran. The Iranians are very cautious about the Russians. Maybe in 100 years, there will be trust built up.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 17:19 utc | 162

Posted by: WJ | Jun 18 2025 16:48 utc | 126
It was during WWI (I think, maybe WWII) the British figured out the precise amount of shelling to keep the enemy troops from relaxing. It was one every three minutes – that’s enough to keep them on edge 24/7 and eventually exhausted.
Like a dripping tap, but with explosives…

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 18 2025 17:19 utc | 163

re: Iran’s Internet
I read yesterday(Slavyangrad TG, I think?) that Iran had shut down international connections to their Internet, but domestic Internet was still operational.
Internet is pretty important for modern communications, so I doubt the Iranians would pull the plug on it entirely.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 18 2025 17:20 utc | 164

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 17:01 utc | 144
I would add https://t.me/s/OstashkoNews to the list, translator plugin\etc needed.
feed covers range of news in russia as well as the wider world, have found it sometimes covers things or little details you sometimes don’t see mentioned elsewhere, as well as domestic issues.
As well as https://t.me/s/geromanat (mostly mapping updates aggregator for Ukr\Ru and Sahel, with some headlines of importance or relevance mixed in bigger news cycle days\weeks)

Vice President of the Iranian Truck Drivers Association Jalal Mousavi reported that several detained Israeli agents infiltrated the ranks of truck drivers three years ago.
▪️Under the guise of truck drivers, they delivered drones and made caches for other saboteurs .
Earlier, it was reported that Mossad agents were captured in Iran and an underground workshop for manufacturing drones was discovered.
▪️Meanwhile, 48 women and children have been killed and 153 wounded in Israeli strikes on Iran since June 13, an Iranian government spokeswoman said.
In Ukraine’s “Web” terrorist operation, the security services also used truckers, but probably blindly.
https://t.me/OstashkoNews/181613

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 17:20 utc | 165

Hormuz?

Posted by: Casey | Jun 18 2025 17:21 utc | 166

“Iran’s state television says closure of Strait of Hormuz is imminent
We warned the US through Switzerland – stay out. This is not your war, we will deal with Israel ourselves.
The US did not listen, they entered the war. Now the consequences will be uncontrollable;
Strait of Hormuz closed, global financial markets disrupted, energy infrastructure damaged
Oil prices will jump to $400 per barrel.”

https://t.me/Reality_Theories/26465

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 17:21 utc | 167

Me thinks the USS Eisenhower, which is scheduled to be retired in 2026 and was dispatched to the middle east from the South China Sea, is Bibi’s false flag target and his opportunity to drag the USSA into this conflict that Bibi cant win.
5,000 sailors to Davey Jones locker would enrage the Trumptards and the Zio controlled media would spin this into a full blown war.

Posted by: joedontsurf | Jun 18 2025 17:21 utc | 168

Tucker and Steve Bannon are another two to add to the list of …
If Russia and the US United to attack China it would be a completely different song they would be singing. They would be ALL IN ! Singing from the roof tops.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 15:31 utc | 40
Sucker “Warface” Carlson would bomb China off the face of the earth in an instant if given the opportunity. Why? I have no idea. Some satanic disease of the mind that affects plenty of other americans as well.

Posted by: Jack M | Jun 18 2025 17:23 utc | 169

@knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 17:20 utc | 165
Thanks for the links!

Posted by: NoName | Jun 18 2025 17:24 utc | 170

The fruits of labor are seen today with how Trump behaves.
He’s dreaming of casinos on the Palestinian beach front properties.
Well I hope he rots in Hell if he attacks Iran.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 17:15 utc | 156
Just keep in mind that Trump is Zelensky 2.0, an actor, an accomplished liar, tasked with finishing the destruction of America. Just like Zelensky in Ukraine. The playbook hasn’t changed.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 17:25 utc | 171

re 158, search begs to differ re time to deploy
“Key Features: Mobile and Highly Mobile: the S-400 is a mobile system, meaning it can be deployed and redeployed relatively quickly, enhancing its survivability and operational flexibility.”

Posted by: dadooronron | Jun 18 2025 17:25 utc | 172

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20300

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 18 2025 17:26 utc | 173

@ abierno | Jun 18 2025 17:10 utc | 154
I appreciate your consistently thoughtful posts but have objections to this one.
1. By the time the Senate could pass legislation limiting the President’s limitless (and manifestly unconstitutional) war powers — and it won’t anyway — the President will have gone to war against Iran if he so chooses. Everyone knows that, including the President and all of the Senators. This is just CYA theater on the part of a handful of senators.
2. Yes, the next bond sales will be largely self-financed. This will eventually prove fatal but unfortunately not yet.
3. It doesn’t matter if the American polis opposes war with Iran, and not just because the Beltway scum could not care less about public opinion. If Trump orders the bombs to fall on Iran, watch public opinion shift massively toward approval of war against Iran — as long as it can be presented to Americans as a teevee show with lots of colorful blasts and inspiring theme music. Sure, eventually sobriety sets in when the war “goes south”, but then it will be time for American public opinion to be shifted elsewhere. Works. every. time.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 18 2025 17:28 utc | 174

From Slavyangrad (132017):
Trump:
‘I spoke to him yesterday and I said… He actually offered to help with mediation. I said, ‘Do me a favor and mediate for yourself. Let’s deal with Russia first, okay?’ I said, ‘Vladimir, let’s deal with Russia first. And you can worry about the rest later.’
Sounds like dementia decay speeding up.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 18 2025 17:29 utc | 175

https://t.me/intelslava/76518
Buonasera, Israele!

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 18 2025 17:29 utc | 176

@Eighthman #1
In theory yes, in reality no.
Shaped charges create pencil to needle thick beams of plasma – it is the coherence of this which reactive armor disrupts.
A bunker buster, on the other hand, is thousands of times more power, period. There is no plasma. It simply applies massive power to a target area and smashes down the intervening material such that the target bunker collapses.
The difference should be thought of as a red hot rapier strike vs. being hit by an 18 wheel truck.

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 18 2025 17:30 utc | 177

The question of the day is : who other than Tulsi stood up and stated that a US attack on Iran was insane at the NSC meeting Monday night ?
Grenell? Rubio? Hegseth? General Kane? Radclif?
I have my doubts that anyone other than Tulsi, the brave soul that she is, had the guts to point out the absurdity of proposed action………..
Meanwhile the crazed neo cons masquerading as MAGA, like Graham, Cotton, Cruz, Hannity, Levine, Adelman and company continue to bombard DJT with war fever….its sick and demented.
Remember in 2003 we were presented with falsehoods about Saddam and his WMD capacity (he had none), and we suffered 7,000 KIA and 45,000 WIA thanks to Cheney, and Wolfowitz and company.
Is DJT POTUS or is Bibi? Is AIPAC on the NSC?

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 18 2025 17:30 utc | 178

For every commons, there is an action that benefits you if you are the only one, but where everybody is worse off if everybody does it.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 18 2025 17:31 utc | 179

According to this Iran’s internet is all but down – is something big happening?
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935340621343932668#m
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 16:10 utc | 88
Russia did the same thing during the recent celebrations.
Should of done this ages ago imo.
Saboteur drones often use mobile sims to piggyback off the country’s 4g network.
With GPS and starlink node jammers near important sites, Iran could render most of those drones inoperable.
From videos of Israeli strikes many attacks were done by drones themselves or drones painting targets for missiles from Israeli jets. The camera work is too stable to be done from a moving fighter jet.

Posted by: V | Jun 18 2025 17:31 utc | 180

Professor Marandi was on a livestream with Nima from Dialogue Works when he was told to evacuate the building and was forced to end the interview just a few moments ago.
This is the exact moment it happens. Professor Marandi doesn’t seem nervous – not that necessarily means anything. He exchanged words with the guard in what I imagine is some variant of Farsi(?) so perhaps someone can translate, though I doubt the guard told him you’re about to be nuked.
https://youtu.be/tgOo5fBSe3k?t=1328

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 18 2025 17:31 utc | 181

So much disinformation on here, it’s truly breathtaking in its naivete. Israel is a small country, it’s virtually impossible to keep anything away from the public. There are 24 dead and about 1500 wounded the majority minor from broken glass etc. It took 400 ballistic missiles to kill 24 Israeli civilians. Bravo. Iran is WINNING. Rigghhht.This regime is toast, with or without the US getting in. If the US does get in its to give Trump his victory lap.

Posted by: Madrigal99 | Jun 18 2025 17:32 utc | 182

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 18 2025 17:30 utc | 178
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Who cares?
That’s all excuse-making and obfuscation.
Trump is the executive. Everything that happens is his responsibility.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 17:32 utc | 183

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 18 2025 17:31 utc | 181
Mr. Marandi is back online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyOiuMRn_Mg&ab_channel=DannyHaiphong

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 17:34 utc | 184

Another comment, regarding Iranian AD this time, and regarding the infamous leakers.
Earlier today, Israeli Air Force said they sent out 50 attack aircraft to hit Iranian industry producing parts for ballistic missiles. I saw a comment the two big attacks on Tehran today hit industrial areas. Let’s assume the two claims are connected. Then Israel sent out 50 attack planes to hit Tehran. There are images showing hits in Tehran. Let’s say there were 10 hits. If you counted differently, just redo the math with different numbers.
Okay, so planes fly to Iraq and launch missiles. How many missiles do they launch? That’s a bit difficult for an armchair warrior like me to figure out. F-35 has a capacity to carry about 8 metric tons of armaments. F-16 can carry about 6 tons. Meanwhile, it *seems* to me that long-range missiles weight about 1 to 1.5 tons. There are also some which supposedly weight only 0.5 tons and have a range of 200 km, but let’s go with 1.5 tons as a conservative estimate. Then, each plane carries 4 missiles… which might be a bad estimate. I remember Martyanov once did a calcuation on a salvo from US carriers against PLAN and he used the number of 2 JASSM per F-18, with ~150 F-18s in flight (50 per carrier, 3 carriers). An F-18 can carry 3 JASSMs, but Martyanov said not all will carry them plus you need to carry other stuff for other purposes, so he ran with 2 missiles per plane. I’ll copy him.
So, 2 missiles per plane, 50 planes coming at Iran. On the other end, there are 10 hits. How many missiles got shot down? 10 hits divided by 100 missiles gives us 10% got through, meaning the intercept ratio is 90%.
THEREFORE, if Iran’s AD has a success rate of 90%, they’ll still get plenty of hits given a large Israeli salvo.
You can play with the numbers, but I think the success of Iran’s AD remains above 2/3rds at all times. Way better than Israel’s, for sure. And if you REALLY want to have fun, calculate how good Iran’s AD would need to be to have NO hits on Iran!
#LeakerProblem #Martyanov101

Posted by: rert | Jun 18 2025 17:35 utc | 185

At the Treehouse (MAGA central), Sundance (Admin) is now saying the US is being used in a fight between Israel and Qatar. None of this is US policy, none of this is Trump policy. LOL
Some Americans will invent any kind of fantasy to avoid the truth.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 17:35 utc | 186

@b
With all due respect to Alastair Crooke – but that gentlemen has had severe TDS from the get go.
And lots of people are presuming that Crooke is objective from his good work that does not touch on Trump, vs. his pronouncements on Trump’s motives and plans which absolutely are affected by Crooke’s TDS.
I repeat yet again: watch what Trump does vs. read what he writes or listen to what he says.
Mercouris, Crooke, and many others were 100% wrong in presuming that Trump would jump in the attack Iran earlier.
Now we wait to see if their pronouncement continue to be wrong for a later Trump strike.
Note furthermore that Crooke and others have been presuming that Israel’s attack on Iran was some type of plan with Trump – this is clearly untrue. Israel via AIPAC has agency in the US government via the Senate and its Republican neocons; they are more than capable of bargaining with Trump to get permission to attack Iran, but that is a very different story compared to the United States starting a direct conflict with Iran.
If Trump enters the US into a direct conflict with Iran, the MAGA movement will die.
Any possibility of a longer term extension of America First/MAGA policies will die with it, and I believe Trump knows this.

Posted by: c1ue | Jun 18 2025 17:35 utc | 187

who other than Tulsi stood up ?
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 18 2025 17:30 utc | 178–
There was a report that the head of Homeland Security needed medical emergency treatment. Maybe the girl had a nervous breakdown.
Are you able to get through a live remake of Dr. Strangelove?

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 18 2025 17:38 utc | 188

There is no doubt that Iran would win in a (long) war of attrition
That’s impossible, I have it on good word from UWdude!!! As he pedantically argued yesterday, if air assets are used it can’t be attritional warfare. And that was before reverting to ad hominem argumentation…always a big crowd pleaser ’round these parts. What a moronic argument. Readers put into doubt by UD’s over-confidence search this “Westmoreland’s attrition campaign in vietnam“.
====================================
Anyway, for those that don’t engage in silly hyperbolic outrage, I hope Alister Crooke is right when he says:
While it first looked yesterday as if Trump may join the war with more overt action that changed after a meeting with his national security council“.
I [and several other Trump voters I know] spent several hour writing/phoning the White House yesterday in attempt to dissuade the President from embarking on this fool’s errand conjured by Netanyahu-[aka Mileikowsky] and Israel’s purveyors of master-race pogroms. Hopefully, the US will limit it’s involvement to being the dutiful goy cheering on their masters bloody intrigues…an aircraft carrier is a terrible thing to waste and wasting two is even worse.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 18 2025 17:39 utc | 189

Posted by: Madrigal99 | Jun 18 2025 17:32 utc | 182
Sure Iran talks a lot of bs but so does Israel.
You only learn about civilian casualties because Israel want to play the victim.
The main target of the Iranian attacks are military facilities and any military casualties there are totally censored.

Posted by: V | Jun 18 2025 17:40 utc | 190

….The USAsupported Saddam in his chemical warfare against Iran.
Posted by: LoveDonbass…..
Fixed it for you. 😋

Posted by: Exile | Jun 18 2025 17:40 utc | 191

Mario (101).
Thank you for that info, you are probably correct.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 17:41 utc | 192

Israel is screaming for help because they are terrified of Iran.
Everything we hear about Israeli attacks is magnified and exaggerated by Western media. What we have seen of Iranian attacks is footage from the Israelis with their phones.
Russia and China don’t have to get directly involved. They know that Iran will handle Israel.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 17:41 utc | 193

Posted by: Exile | Jun 18 2025 17:40 utc | 191
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Both superpowers did.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 17:41 utc | 194

Here is a carrier tracker map: https://news.usni.org/category/fleet-tracker
I only see one in the area, not three.
Here is similar info, but in detailed text form: http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html

Posted by: sheldon-cooper | Jun 18 2025 17:42 utc | 195

The US Embassy in Jerusalem announced the organization of flights and evacuation ships to evacuate American citizens from Israel

https://x.com/SprinterObserve/status/1935392064331452725

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 17:44 utc | 196

I was just thinking, with respect to comments, variously, regarding the absence of the rule of law, specifically internationally, it’s really a joke to think that such a thing exists even nationally. I can 100% and without any hesitation confirm that we have no such thing in the UK, if we ever had, it was a fleeting historical anomaly which was soon eclipsed by the forerunner to what we now have, which is little other than rulers in a myriad of masks.

Posted by: SharpElbow | Jun 18 2025 17:45 utc | 197

Once Israel is emptied, the real destruction can begin.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 17:45 utc | 198

William Gruff | Jun 18 2025 17:20 utc | 164
The other day I saw something about professor Mirandi saying he had to go to one building that had internet for an interview. Apparently at that time, the government had greatly slowed the public internet.
I assume public internet is now switched off but guess government would still have it.
Along with the sleeper cells which seem to have been numerous, there was likely a colour revolution type operation planned. I see some of the MSM was promoting ‘opposition’ inside Iran.
Closing the internet would put the brakes on any psyop attacks.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 18 2025 17:46 utc | 199

Posted by: SharpElbow | Jun 18 2025 17:45 utc | 197
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It was inevitable that power would end up administering and abusing the rule of law.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 18 2025 17:46 utc | 200