Tic-Toc Thread On The War On Iran - 4
Alastair Crooke is summarizing the first days of USrael's war on Iran:
The situation in the broadest terms is that the attempt by Israel and allied Intelligence services to launch a surprise ‘synergistic psychic-shock’ to the Iranian state through simultaneous muti-domain decapitations, assassinations of scientists, disruption of Air Defence systems and the insertion of drone saboteur teams, failed.
It failed in its expected outcome -- that of paralysing and panicking the Iranian leadership and even creating the space for ‘the hoped for’ regime-change vibe to take hold. (It never happened. Iranians buried political differences and rallied to national sovereignty).
Rather, despite the loss of eight military line commanders, the system quickly re-booted itself: the Air Defence systems were restored within 8 hours, and Iran retaliated with missile attacks on Israel.
The point here was that – other than superficial surface damage – there was no setback made to Iran’s nuclear programme. And to be clear, that was never the Israeli aim. They simply do not have the ability to destroy infrastructure buried 800 metres into mountains. They (with their allies -- the US and European States) rather hope for ‘regime change’.
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So, the situation has inverted from that of 13 June. Israel now is in big trouble: Its Air Defences are performing badly and it is Israel sustaining (verified) substantive damage to key assets. Basically, every politician in Israel now is begging the US to enter the war for them.
Israeli Minister & Cabinet member, Gila Gamliel: “We categorically demand that the United States join the war against Iran”.
While it first looked yesterday as if Trump may join the war with more overt action that changed after a meeting with his national security council.
As Larry Johnson observes:
Trump continued his intemperate postings on Truth Social until he convened a meeting of his National Security Council in Washington, DC this afternoon.Something happened in that meeting to derail what seemed to be an inevitable collision with Iran because Trump’s subsequent social media posts only focused on mundane domestic matters, such as erecting two new flag poles on the White House grounds. I have seen one news item claiming that Trump is giving Iran 24 hours to surrender. That ain’t going to happen.
Ayatollah Khamenei confirms that this "ain't going to happen":
Khamenei.ir @khamenei_ir - 11:18 UTC · Jun 18, 2025The US President threatens us. With his absurd rhetoric, he demands that the Iranian people surrender to him.
They should make threats against those who are afraid of being threatened. The Iranian nation isn’t frightened by such threats.
Since the first day of the war there have been waves of attacks by Israeli forces against Iran each followed by a wave of missile attacks by Iranian forces. Neither side has sufficient air defenses to prevent all hits. Neither side has air supremacy over the territory of the other country.
Iran has intercepted long range drones from Israel. It claims to have shot down several F-35 airplanes but has shown no proof for that. Israel has made claims of having hit Iranian missile launchers. But the video evidence of such strikes is poor and many hits seem to have been on decoys.
The tit for tat strike exchange is likely to continue for a while. Iran has several thousand of missiles. It is firing a mix of old ones, which can be intercepted, with a number of new ones which can't. It has changed its tactic from one big strike per day to multiple strikes per day with smaller numbers.
Israel's air defense seems prone to hit itself. The number of interceptors it is using is limited the Wall Street journal says (archived). It may be less than two weeks before those run out.
Israel claims to have launched some 800 sorties against Iran with which it hit 1,000 targets. It also claims that Iran has fired 400 missiles and 1,000 drones of which only 20 missiles reached their targets while only 200 drones reached Israel but did not hit anywhere. I can assure you that none of those numbers is true.
Both sides censor the results of strikes. From what is known both appear to have taken some significant damage.
But Iran is the much bigger country. It has more than ten times the people than Israel. Its area is 1.5 million square kilometer versus Israel's 21,000 square kilometer. Iran is mostly self sufficient. It has a widely dispersed industry and a well trained work force which can be switched from civil to military production. Israel depends on imports which can be interrupted. Its industry is small and highly concentrated in a few areas.
There is no doubt that Iran would win in a (long) war of attrition.
That is why Israel needs the U.S. to jump in.
I still have doubt that Trump, despite his rhetoric, is willing to do so. The risk is high and the outcome uncertain. Even if U.S. bombers manage to demolish Iran's centrifuges, buried below mountains, Iran will be able to reconstitute its nuclear program within a few months.
His intelligence people will tell him that this threat is not empty:
Khamenei.ir @khamenei_ir - 11:38 UTC · Jun 18, 2025The US entering in this matter [war] is 100% to its own detriment. The damage it will suffer will be far greater than any harm that Iran may encounter.
At the UN Security Council Russia and China have taken strong positions against Israel's war of aggression. Neither can be expected to give overt support to Iran - at least not yet. The content of a few transport planes from China arriving in Iran will not change the big picture.
Posted by b on June 18, 2025 at 14:38 UTC | Permalink
next page »Orange pig says he is issuing a "final ultimatum" to Iran.
Orange pig on the essence of the demand for Iran's "unconditional surrender": "it's simple - Tehran must surrender"
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 18 2025 14:43 utc | 2
@all
Reminder: Do NOT feed the trolls.
Responding to them or quoting their nonsense comments is more disturbing to a thread than the trolling comment alone. Refrain from doing that. I will otherwise have no choice but to block YOU too.
Iran's Supreme Leader Khamenei Responds to Trump's Threats:Smart people who know Iran, the country and the history of Iran will never speak to this country in a threatening language. Any military intervention by America will undoubtedly cause irreparable damage. The Americans must understand that the Iranian people are not subdued, and any military intervention by them will inevitably result in irreparable damage to them.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 18 2025 14:45 utc | 4
https://x.com/krystalball/status/1934628084390543399
Trump likely has been reminded that his whole agenda is at risk, like it or hate it . He's shedding high profile support like nobody's business.
I hope the pressure works, from within and outside. But history indicates otherwise.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 14:49 utc | 5
Trump may, Solomon-like, attempt to cut the baby in half by ordering the destruction of the deep buried sites and otherwise just assisting with Israel’s defense, as they have done from the beginning.
The question is if Iran would “unsee” such an attack and keep its focus and concentrated fire on Israel and not attack either the Gulf Arabs or the US bases. This would be the path to success but will take enormous discipline.
Posted by: Caliman | Jun 18 2025 14:52 utc | 6
Re: F35 'aider' shoot downs
These probably happened outside of Iranian airspace, and if its somewhere over north eastern Syria, or northern Iraq, you can bet your hot pants the narrative is fully controlled (mafia style payouts)
Only part was confirmed of pilots captured.
Posted by: ToB | Jun 18 2025 14:53 utc | 7
Moon of Alabama wrote:
"I still have doubt that Trump, despite his rhetoric, is willing to do so. The risk is high and the outcome uncertain. Even if U.S. bombers manage to demolish Iran's centrifuges, buried below mountains, Iran will be able to reconstitute its nuclear program within a few months."
My heart wants to believe that you're right, but my mind would be shocked if Trump said no to Miriam Adelson, Ike Perlmutter, Bill Ackman, etc.
Posted by: Afro | Jun 18 2025 14:53 utc | 8
Attempting to destroy a sovereign countries nuclear reactors is equivalent or even worse than dropping nukes.
Why don't folks equate the two, as it seems to be a reasonable assessment.
Posted by: ToB | Jun 18 2025 14:57 utc | 9
'I still have doubt that Trump, despite his rhetoric, is willing to do so'.
b has been consistently wrong about Trump.
Trump is a transparent non-entity. Ignoring that plain fact is at ones own peril.
Posted by: JB | Jun 18 2025 15:01 utc | 10
// Pause mode: OFF
I forward 2 links.
First one contains objective analysis of how Russia position itself in the ongoing conflict. Those among audience who still believe in the so-called "Multipolar World", should read this carefully.
https://south24.net/news/newse.php?nid=4708
Second link, an "emotional" reaction to the news that Reza Pahlavi, sponsored by Netanjahu, is "coming back" to Iran. This is explicitly for the Persian-speaking members of this forum. ;P
https://x.com/mey3Amam/status/1935242468506657150
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Posted by: Framarz | Jun 18 2025 15:01 utc | 11
It doesn't really amount to much but I'm glad I didn't participate in the election process.
Posted by: chunga | Jun 18 2025 15:03 utc | 12
If anyone remembers in 2017, Deranged DT's first term, involving North Korea nuclear tests. Trump,would,act unilaterally, if China didn't stop NK.
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"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen... He [Kim Jong-un] has been very threatening beyond a normal state, and as I said, they will be met with fire, fury, and frankly power, the likes of which this world has never seen before."
USS Carl Vinson Strike Group (April 2017) was suppose to be within striking range, but everyone was misled and it was somewhere in Australia.
Posted by: ToB | Jun 18 2025 15:03 utc | 13
Considering those in a position to know, know a lot more than any of us, it appears China and Russia have taken a 'never interrupt the enemy when he is about to commit a mistake' approach so far.
So long as they are confident there are no preventable 'surprises' that will result in the fall of Iran... we shall have to wait and see.
Boy am i glad i am not one of those 'soon to be regretting pivotal life choices' types currently being interrogated in one of those IRGC dungeons...
Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 18 2025 15:03 utc | 14
Thanks for this new thread with very good intro.
Let us try to keep the thread informative.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:04 utc | 15
'Shelter For Jews Only'! (& vid)
https://x.com/AbdallahMarouf/status/1934991364522991896
"This is the TRUE face of Apartheid Israel...bunkers and shelters are 'FOR JEWS ONLY' - not for THAI and foreign workers - not mentioning the ARABS of course. Despicable!"
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 18 2025 15:04 utc | 16
https://t.me/s/FotrosResistancee?before=14319
Fotros Resistance (AryJeay)
🇮🇷| Iran’s mission to UN, in reaction to Trump’s unconditional surrender clownery:
“Iran does NOT negotiate under duress, shall NOT accept peace under duress, and certainly NOT with a has-been warmonger clinging to relevance.”
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Posted by: Mary | Jun 18 2025 15:06 utc | 17
Posted by: Framarz | Jun 18 2025 15:01 utc | 11
Sleeper cells? Seriously? Evidence, even anecdotal or this is nonsense.
A US intervention would almost certainly lead to Iran’s defeat—even if Tehran manages to inflict serious collateral damage on regional US bases or possibly even the American homeland, should its sleeper cells be capable of such action. Russia is not expected to intervene militarily in support of Iran. As previously explained, shared membership in the SCO and BRICS does not entail mutual defense commitments, nor does the newly updated strategic partnership.
If anything, Israel has sleeper cells in the US.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:08 utc | 18
the mighty bestest biggest, far bigger then any previously biggest president, orange hitler, looks more and more like netanyahoos poodle. such an obedient dog.
how do the american people feel with a lackey as their president? probably like we germans feel.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 18 2025 15:15 utc | 19
What would the current Communist Party of the Russian Federation (CPRF) do?
This is their manifesto...
Three-Phase Plan for Socioeconomic Transformation :
Establish Working-Class Power
Enable a CPRF-led coalition to assume influence, reverse 1990s-era privatizations, protect small businesses, and establish workers’ councils (“soviets”).
Socioeconomic Transition
Gradually shift toward socialism through expanded soviet governance and trade union participation, retaining a limited private sector.
Full Socialism
Complete transformation into a planned, state-owned socialist economy.
Key Immediate or "Minimum Programme" Measures
Social Welfare & Family Support: Rebuild kindergartens, restore benefits for large families, ensure young-family housing, combat poverty.
State Control of Economy: Nationalize natural resources and strategic industries; repatriate state funds held abroad; introduce price controls on essentials.
Political Reforms: End voting manipulation; institute a truly independent judiciary.
Labor & Legal Protections: Prevent raising retirement age; revise harmful codes—Labour, Housing, Land, etc.; ensure state responsibility for utilities and limit bills to 10% of income.
Public Services & Infrastructure: Increase construction of affordable housing; support high‑tech manufacturing; enhance education, healthcare, science.
Taxation & Business: Implement progressive taxation; support small and medium enterprises.
Culture & National Identity: Defend Russian language, history, and culture; protect public access to culture; crack down on corruption and preserve Soviet history.
National Security & Internationalism: Strengthen defence; protect compatriots abroad; endorse foreign policy based on mutual respect; promote anti-fascist and anti-imperialist alliances
In June 2024, CPRF leadership emphasized uniting anti-fascist forces globally against Western imperialism and neo‑Nazism—calling on active solidarity in Russia and abroad.
Would they be protecting Iran ?
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 15:15 utc | 20
Israeli Minister & Cabinet member, Gila Gamliel: “We categorically demand that the United States join the war against Iran”.
Wow! They 'categorically demand'. She might be an Iranian agent or else she's incredibly stupid.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 18 2025 15:15 utc | 21
@ b | Jun 18 2025 14:45 utc | 3
yes to that! i hope the regulars who were replying to the trolls on the previous thread just stop it..
i am not sure what is going to happen here... i agree with alex krainer - israel is the usa/uk agenda to control the middle east, much like ukraine is the proxy to take down russia... can either of them work, or continue to work?? i am doubtful, but given these 2 imperial empires long to remain dominant, it is hard to say who it spins here..
and why is this happening?? the idea that one country - israel - could have nuclear weapons, but iran can't.. i am sorry but this logic is very flawed and is a distraction, much like iraq weapons of mass destruction... it is the same play being staged here... this time instead of bush and blair, it is trump and netanyahu.... we'll see what trump does here, but my guess is he talks the talk of wanting peace, but he doesn't walk the walk.... his approach to ukraine and nato is a case in point..
Posted by: james | Jun 18 2025 15:18 utc | 22
Let's go through some inductive reasoning: if the true intents were regime change in Russia and Iran (one via economic sanctions, the other through "synergistic psychic-shock"), WHY were these decisions made? That is, why weren't traditional means of the exercise of pure military power employed?
Well, the first obvious answer is that the west didn't want to risk escalation to nuclear war; fair point. But, I would suggest a far greater reason exists, one that is quite simple: we could NOT achieve a straightforward military victory. Now, this might elicit a collective "duh" reaction from stating something so obvious, but seriously, consider what it actually means on a deeper level.
To wit, we know the reserve currency moves from country to country every 100-200 years. Basically, the period of time it takes for the money lenders to exploit a naive, virgin society in the employ of projecting military and economic power before it is exhausted and discarded. If we conclude that the US no longer has the pure military power to enforce the dollar standard, then we can also surmise the shapeshifters long ago realized the time was coming to jump ship to another fresh set of horses.
That's the point I'm making: we tried the easy way with Russia and Iran because we couldn't enforce the dollar system via traditional military projection. That means our time is truly nearing the end, with the smart money leading the way to get out of Dodge.
Posted by: markw | Jun 18 2025 15:18 utc | 23
The post by Larry Johnson today is very interesting.
Recommend reading it.
It seems Israelis seriously under-estimated Iran.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 18 2025 15:19 utc | 24
Reposting this delightful scene hopefully presaging more such conflictions to come...
Itamar Ben Givr to Amir Bar-Lev: 'Why Did You Provoke Iran?!?!'
https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1935070012386984289
"We didn't realize the power of Iran's missile capabilities."
Imperialists, fascists and Zio-Nazis always underestimate the power of resistance. Organize, educate and prepare to join it.
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 18 2025 15:19 utc | 25
🇺🇸🇮🇷 “Good luck,” Donald Trump said in a brief response to Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s statement that Tehran will not surrender.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152284
Trump has lost it.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:19 utc | 26
I wonder how much of that National Security Council meeting was taken up with Trump having the riot act read to him about belittling and disrespecting Tulsi Gabbard so publicly?
Could even be the real reason he left the G7 early was because he was told Gabbard (and possibly some of her senior staff) were on the point of resigning their positions. Not good optics to have staffing upheavals at a time of extreme international tensions.
As Larry noted, the social media output became rather subdued afterwards.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 18 2025 15:20 utc | 27
Nuke Iran: will he or won't he? That's the real decision on DJT's desk, here. No way, Jose, does any thirty-ton "bunker buster" do the trick in Iran (any better than it did in Yemen). That leaves one option, as related by Rob Urie:
As this essay is being written, military supply ships, aircraft carriers, and refueling aircraft are being sent by the US to West Asia as the US appears ready to formally enter the war that it started with Iran. With nuclear weapons being the only option left for busting Iran’s bunkers (details below), their ‘pragmatic’ use for bunker busting would cross every nuclear red-line that an increasingly resistant world has put forward. Once the nuclear line is crossed, it is a matter of days or weeks until human life on the planet ends. The escalation logic is inexorable.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/rob-urie-as-goes-iran-so-goes-humanity.html
Remembering to smell the roses is always vital, friends. Especially this awful June.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 18 2025 15:23 utc | 28
Imperialists, fascists and Zio-Nazis always underestimate the power of resistance. Organize, educate and prepare to join it.
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 18 2025 15:19 utc | 25
Several people, such as Alon Mizrahi, have said that description is a bad translation. I think that video is from 2022 and about something different.
Posted by: Afro | Jun 18 2025 15:24 utc | 29
My gut tells me that Trump will cave to the neanderthals like Graham and Kurilla. Pete Hegseth seems to have left the chat - a lightweight who is in so far over his head, he can't see the surface.
It will be Trump's Waterloo.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 18 2025 15:24 utc | 30
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 18 2025 15:20 utc | 27
Watch the interview between Tucker and Steve Bannon
Here:
It's all in there.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 15:25 utc | 31
Trump is definitely going to get the US officially involved. There is no doubt in my mind the "talks" were merely a pretext, but backstabbing during talks destroyed any credibility he had remaining.
What I'm more curious about is what American and European citizens will do. I'm certain a draft will be imposed at some point and I'd like to believe it will be resisted strongly, but given the seemingly little resistance in Ukraine and how so many still listen to lying MSM I have little faith.
Posted by: Ξ | Jun 18 2025 15:25 utc | 32
@james | Jun 18 2025 15:18 utc | 22
This has nothing to du with nuclear enrichment, that is just a pretext for war that has been used for more than 40 years. This is about dominance over the Middle East resources and preventing the trade routes through Iran. The North-South corridor is one such. Then add the forever war ideology to enrich the MIC.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:27 utc | 33
The lunacy script continues apace.
"US President on Iran:
Our patience on Iran has already run out.
We have been threatened by Iran for many years.
Iran no longer has any air defenses, and I don't know how long they will last.
Iran wants to make a deal with us. "
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152266
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"Trump says he is issuing a "final ultimatum" to Iran.
Trump on the essence of the demand for Iran's "unconditional surrender": "it's simple - Tehran must surrender"
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152267
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Trump: I told Netanyahu to continue[attacking Iran]
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152268
---video - (I told Putin thanks but not interested with help mediating iran)
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152269
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Trump responds to a question about Iran's Supreme Leader: Good luck.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152270
The Iranians have reached out to us, and I'm fed up with this situation and want their unconditional surrender.
I tell Iran you can never have a nuclear weapon.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152271
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The false equivalence continues, as Iran agrees with you.(video) (Trump comments and smirks\jokes about his ultimatum being the ultimate ultimatum)
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152272
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Next up... big beautiful bombs
Iran's Mission to the UN statement regarding Trump’s deranged ramblings. https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152279 ---Maria Zakharova on RT (~2m video with English translation)- What has Iran even done wrong? Why is it being bombed for?
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/152280
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Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 15:29 utc | 34
Thank you b for hosting this site. The discussion over this past weekend has been especially informative.
Posted by: nazcalito | Jun 18 2025 15:29 utc | 35
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Sleeper cells? Seriously? Evidence, even anecdotal or this is nonsense.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:08 utc | 18
I wrote, "read carefully", meaning: get the essence! jump over triviality!
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Posted by: Framarz | Jun 18 2025 15:29 utc | 36
There's a lie behind Trump's bellowing and the Zionist's entreaties--The Outlaw US Empire is already involved in the conflict from its outset. Iran has chosen not to attack US assets in the region so far. Politically, Trump is in a corner much like that of Ukraine since the Empire's proxies are both failing. And still the Empire wants to try and regime change China--regime change being its long-standing continual policy since WW2. Within the Empire's Congress are many avid Zionists thirsting for war with Iran and continued war against Russian speaking Ukrainians. The pending 500% tariff sanctions bill Trump has admitted will cause great harm to the Empire, but it remains veto proof, which is a testament to the utter lack of thinking in Congress.
When I retired last night, Iran was crowing about the success of its Fattah missiles where several videos showed no interceptor launches against them. I recall at the SMO's start that Russian AD crews needed time to learn the characteristics of the missiles being used against them, and after initial Ukrainian success they began to intercept all of them. I'm of a similar opinion regarding Iranian AD crews. And it must be acknowledged that much of the internal damage done within Iran was caused by sabotage teams armed with drones and small missiles, not all of which have been neutralized. Yet, at bottom there's no box score being made public by either side, although we know the Zionists are great fabricators as the visual evidence proves their lies. The order to close the borders to its own citizens wishing to escape is a very telling testament to Zionist Ideology.
We know NATO has no AD worthy of the term, so the Empire brings little to the table. With Zionist ports and airbases rendered kaput, resupply can only be done by road and airdrop. It's also widely known that Iran is saving its most powerful missiles for the Empire should it be foolish enough to attack instead of just advising. True, the Eastern approaches to Iran have yet to be tested, but I believe that's been gamed before and found to be bad news for the Empire. So, we'll see how the day progresses, although IMO it will be a lot like yesterday. I should mention the three tankers afire near Hormuz blocking normal navigation.
What I'm more curious about is what American and European citizens will doPosted by: Ξ | Jun 18 2025 15:25 utc | 32
Julian Reichelt here in Germany is now saying that "Völkerrecht" aka, International law, does not exit, and never has. All masks have dropped, and we are living in truly insane times with unhinged lunatics all over the "west". Many comments on his recent tweet are even in support of him. Pure insanity.
Posted by: jure | Jun 18 2025 15:30 utc | 38
Ex-US army intel analyst & peace advocate Josephine Guilbeau says: No war with Iran.
"We’ve got battles to fight here at home with Trump. He’s escalating for a reason. Don’t fall for it."
@PressTV
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Posted by: Mary | Jun 18 2025 15:31 utc | 39
Tucker and Steve Bannon are another two to add to the list of ...
If Russia and the US United to attack China it would be a completely different song they would be singing. They would be ALL IN ! Singing from the roof tops.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 15:31 utc | 40
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 15:25 utc | 31
Thanks, was eagerly awaiting that. The preview yesterday made the front page of some liberal uber alles Facebook group my wife watches and the idiots spent more time bemoaning the fact that evil white supremo Tucker was even allowed on the page than debating the merits of his destruction of Lyin Cancun Ted.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:32 utc | 41
Iranian government planes have landed in Oman.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/jj26#3adb2b90
What is being discussed? In a all out war what would be the minimum iran could demand not to target gulf states?
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 18 2025 15:32 utc | 42
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:27 utc | 33
pretty much, and this was just posted on telegram which adds to your assesment about traderoutes:
An interesting detail that is almost unnoticed against the backdrop of the strikes on Iran: the first missiles fired at the country's territory flew almost simultaneously with the launch of the new railway route From China to Iran. First train from Xi'an arrived at the Iranian logistics hub Aprin on May 25, 2025. This route has been coordinated and built since 2021, immediately after Iran and China signed a strategic agreement worth about $400 billion as part of the One Belt, One Road initiative. The essence of the project is simple: industrial goods from China now go to Iran directly by land, bypassing all US zones of influence, military bases and sanctions control. Iran receives not just supplies - it gains the role of a key transit hub connecting:– to the south – the North-South corridor through Russia, the Caspian Sea and India;
– to the west – land access to Iraq, Syria, Turkey and the Mediterranean;
– to the east – direct access to Chinese supply chains.In addition, the land route erodes the monopoly of maritime traffic, especially in conditions where the Strait of Hormuz and Suez are controlled by either American or pro-American structures. Iran has gradually broken out of logistical isolation, becoming a link between China, Russia, India and the Middle East.
All of this is a geoeconomic threat that the US and its allies understand very well. Therefore, it is not surprising that simultaneously with the beginning of Iran's real integration into trans-Asian logistics, an attempt to destroy it systemically is beginning. The issue is not only about the nuclear program. The issue is to prevent Iran from becoming a logistics hub for the new Eurasian architecture and from gaining sufficient strength.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 18 2025 15:33 utc | 43
Astonishing to see how the propaganda on both sides is using the same terminology. It is astonishing because you would think that people who have learned and transcended one propaganda, would be immune to the other as well.
But no. Critical unbiased thinking is still rare, even in fine site such as this.
I hear now the same "unprovoked war" argument - Israel's attack on Iran was unprovoked". Last time I heard it when Russia attacked Ukraine. We rejected it then, because it is a garbage argument, and we all know the context, much thanks to MoA. However the same fine thinking power is unable to see that the same applies to Israel's attack.
I hear that "Israel is running out of the Hetz missiles" (check the WSJ). Same as I heard that Russia has enough missiles for 2 weeks (back when the war started), that Russia is running out of this, running out of that. Not gonna happen.
Next we'll hear that Netanyahu has cancer (like they said about Putin back then), that he is desperate for a cease fire, that his support is getting thin, that soon someone from his own staff will kill him.
Ultimately, when Russia wins against Ukraine we'll hear that it is only because the US and the West "betrayed" Ukraine, implying that Russia wouldn't be able to win otherwise. We'll hear now, after Israel wins against Iran in a fantastic way, that Israel managed it only because it GOT the help of the US. Alone it would have never be able to do it, etc. etc. Yeah, right.
This is all cope. We learned to identify cope on the Western MSM thanks to site like MoA, but just look at the messages on the same MoA, and the blog posts - pure cope to the other side.
All we need to do is open our eyes and see reality as it is. I don't know what is the exact reason behind that, but Iran turned out to be very weak and volunerable. It lost TWO Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces in a span of 3 days - that has got to be a Guinness World Record. It merits the harshest response. But nothing. My eyes tell me that Iran is losing, and that Ukraine is losing. I would love if we can acknowledge that and refrain from being biased to either direction.
Posted by: chudon | Jun 18 2025 15:34 utc | 44
@ Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:27 utc | 33
yes, i fully concur... i am sorry if i wasn't clear in my post, but i strongly share your viewpoint.. thanks..
Posted by: james | Jun 18 2025 15:34 utc | 45
A question is why Israel abandoned their patient approach. Maybe after carpet bombing Gaza with little effective pushback, then the relative success in Lebanon, and finally the colapse of Syria intoxicated then to the point of going for the big banana without a guarantee from the US to join in. There are reasons why, since 2001, the US always got cold feet regarding Iran. Desperation that the clock was ticking I suppose.
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 18 2025 15:35 utc | 46
Meditation #23
Given the fact that the Mossad has managed to sneak an entire army worthy of a small state, manufacturing industry and network of logistics services into Iran, the question must now be asked:
What else could they have brought in that might ben more impactful than all these things?My answer: Nuclear EMP devices in preparation for an attack on key military and communications infrastructure.
Should a series of powerful EMP devices be activated in Iran there will be little time to recover from a disruption of key communications and control networks.
US-rael would exploit this window to deal a killing blow to the State.
The only counter: Prevention. Iran must attack first. Use it, or lose it.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 18 2025 15:35 utc | 47
About trade routes (see map in link):
An interesting detail that is almost unnoticed against the backdrop of the strikes on Iran: the first missiles fired at the country's territory flew almost simultaneously with the launch of the new railway route From China to Iran. First train from Xi'an arrived at the Iranian logistics hub Aprin on May 25, 2025. This route has been coordinated and built since 2021, immediately after Iran and China signed a strategic agreement worth about $400 billion as part of the One Belt, One Road initiative. The essence of the project is simple: industrial goods from China now go to Iran directly by land, bypassing all US zones of influence, military bases and sanctions control. Iran receives not just supplies - it gains the role of a key transit hub connecting:https://t.me/Slavyangrad/132012– to the south – the North-South corridor through Russia, the Caspian Sea and India;
– to the west – land access to Iraq, Syria, Turkey and the Mediterranean;
– to the east – direct access to Chinese supply chains.In addition, the land route erodes the monopoly of maritime traffic, especially in conditions where the Strait of Hormuz and Suez are controlled by either American or pro-American structures. Iran has gradually broken out of logistical isolation, becoming a link between China, Russia, India and the Middle East.
All of this is a geoeconomic threat that the US and its allies understand very well. Therefore, it is not surprising that simultaneously with the beginning of Iran's real integration into trans-Asian logistics, an attempt to destroy it systemically is beginning. The issue is not only about the nuclear program. The issue is to prevent Iran from becoming a logistics hub for the new Eurasian architecture and from gaining sufficient strength.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:35 utc | 48
In a short video of an attack on Israel’s Maor Air Base, I could already count 10 hits. If it is not fake, this would show that Israel defence against missiles is very rapidly declining.
If this is so then the US will need to interfere to save Israel from total destruction. There is no way the US (congress) would not support Israel. A proxy war of Russia (China) against the US?
Posted by: hubert | Jun 18 2025 15:36 utc | 49
@ Justpassinby | Jun 18 2025 15:33 utc | 43
very helpful info to understand all this better.. thanks..
Posted by: james | Jun 18 2025 15:36 utc | 50
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:32 utc | 41
It's very interesting. It's clear to me they contacted Tulsi. I think that's were the resignation threat was generated from.
But who really knows ?
She should have resigned when she couldn't stop the genocide in Gazza.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 15:36 utc | 51
Posted by: Framarz | Jun 18 2025 15:29 utc | 36
Fair enough, but the proper English would be read "critically", ""skeptically " or "take with a grain of salt" - snark intended since I was a little annoyed I couldn't understand the Farsi in your other link about the Shah's grandson and I was genuinely curious what was being said. :-)
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:37 utc | 52
# Bombing civilian nuclear infrastructure is a War Crime.
# A region wide Shia jihad would blow the place apart.
# This would lead to a global depression.
# Possibility of regime changes throughout the region - but not in The Islamic Republic of Iran.
# As a European, we could badly do with a spate of regime changes.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 18 2025 15:37 utc | 53
t doesn't really amount to much but I'm glad I didn't participate in the election process.
Posted by: chunga | Jun 18 2025 15:03 utc | 12
I am so glad also that I did not consent.
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 15:37 utc | 54
Looks like the empire (NATO and its de facto member, the Zionist colony)are serial offenders of international law.
We have perfidy,regime change, genocide, slaughter of innocents, siege by unilateral sanctions, and unprovoked war of aggression.
Late stage monopoly capitalism is in trouble and needs empire to thrive.
Rinse and repeat.
Posted by: Frank | Jun 18 2025 15:37 utc | 55
@Justpassinby | Jun 18 2025 15:33 utc | 43
Apologies, I didn't see your post before I posted mine. We saw the same thing! Thanks.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:39 utc | 56
Although Trump may be hesitant to jump in feet first to help Israel, after his intelligence people informed him of the immensity of the task, and what it could lead to - Trump's very wealthy Jewish backers - and influential lobby groups, will be twisting the screw on him to declare war on Iran to save Israel from defeat - one wonders if Trump fails to give the order to send everything to the defence of Israel, will military equipment - still be sent to Israel behind Trumps back, a kind of bypassing him, I think Trump will cave in, and give the order to join the illegal attack on Iran - once all their forces are in position to do so, for the Washington is captured by extremely wealthy pro-Israel folk, who wield significant power in the senate - basically most of the senators are on the Israeli pay roll, along with many more influential Americans and the US MSM, appear pro-Israeli as well.
Can you imagine the MSM reports, not just in America, if Trump says no - we won't join the war, and Israel falls - of course before that conclusion could be reached, I can picture Britain, and half of Europe rushing to Israel's aid to delay the defeat.
No, Trump will give the attack the get go - in the USA and especially in Washington - it would be political suicide not to give it the green light - with so many political beasts in the pocket of Israel.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 15:39 utc | 57
I remember that president Obama send his then Chief of Joint Staff Mike Mullen to Israel. Mullen personally seem to have read the riot act to the israelis and warned them not to attack Iran.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2010/03/07/mullen-wary-israeli-attack-iran
Posted by: WMG | Jun 18 2025 15:39 utc | 58
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 15:25 utc | 31
Actually I was wrong. Thought it was the Ted Cruz interview. Anyone have that link yet?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:40 utc | 59
I can only hope that Trump leaves Israel foisted on it's own petard but not optimistic.Per usual, if the US attacks, it will be after the markets close...
Posted by: ctiger | Jun 18 2025 15:42 utc | 60
It seems Israelis seriously under-estimated Iran.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 18 2025 15:19 utc
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Maybe, but it doesn't seem at all that they haven't under-estimated their cards in halls of power in DC and elsewhere.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 15:42 utc | 61
UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER
I laughed when I found out Trump sent those words alone in a message without saying if he was offering them to the world or demanding the world bow to those words.
My opinion is that he need to practice them as an offering instead of a demand.
What does it say that there haven't been any more waves of missiles from Iran in last 12 hours or so? I don't expect and believe I have read that Occupied Palestine continues to press it aggression in Iran.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 18 2025 15:43 utc | 62
Does this mean China will stop sending 747 loads of weaponry to the NAZI logistics base at Rzeszow?
Posted by: Edgar Eugene Bradley | Jun 18 2025 15:43 utc | 63
So what can these bunker buster do ? Prof. Postol explains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONvjyKAr3-Y&ab_channel=DanielDavis%2FDeepDive
Worth listening after it is finish as you will miss the beginning at the moment.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 15:44 utc | 64
btw, I agree that the ticking clock was economic integration and the failure of sanctions, not nuclear development.
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 18 2025 15:44 utc | 65
Thought it was the Ted Cruz interview. Anyone have that link yet?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:40 utc | 59
Tom It premieres in 76 mins...
Here
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=smemFVe0l5E
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 15:45 utc | 66
JohnGilberts@25....."Imperialists, fascists and Zio-Nazis".....so we humans just keep kicking this can down the road? How many times has Russia marched though Germany on it's way to the Atlantic? How many more? I think most completely underestimate the staying power of Imperialists, Fascists and Zio Nazis..... appeasement and restraint, letting mass murderers walk off into the sunlight, no hard feelings......"Join The Resistance"
Cheers M
.....safest resistance is in everyone's pocket.....take the Queen/King's 'mug shot' out of circulation.....
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 18 2025 15:45 utc | 67
The build of forces is well underway.
"Out of the 11 Active US Aircraft Carriers 3 are now/will be deployed to the CENTCOM region (middle east). - CNN
USS Nimitz (CVN-68)
USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)
USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78)"
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935363065593364864#m
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 15:46 utc | 68
A look back …2002- Pentagon: US v Iran War Game (US Loses)
Known as the “Millennium Challenge” of 2002, Iran BTFOs America in asymmetric war. The study cost $250 million.
Currently, US ships are already on their way to Iran. According to the Pentagon’s study, they will end up littering the ocean floor.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/millennium-challenge-iran-destroyed-america-war-game-197261
https://mackenzieinstitute.com/2023/11/a-250-million-war-game-and-its-shocking-outcome/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/war-and-conflicts/military-organizations/i-fought-a-u-s-war-against-iran-i-lost/ar-AA1GSQbc
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2024/10/30/usa-war-military-money-report/
The exercise pitted Iran against the US military. Washington intended to show how the US military could defeat Iran with ease.
Paul Van Riper, a three-star general and 41-year veteran of the Marine Corps, led Iranian forces in the war game. His mission was to take on the full force of the US military, led by an aircraft carrier battle group and a large amphibious landing force in the Persian Gulf.
The results shocked everyone…
Van Riper waited for the US Navy to pass through the shallow and narrow Strait of Hormuz, which made them sitting ducks for Iran’s unconventional and asymmetric warfare techniques.
The idea is to level the playing field against a superior enemy with swarms of explosive-laden suicide speedboats, low-flying planes carrying anti-ship missiles, naval mines, and land-based anti-ship ballistic missiles, among other low-cost but highly effective measures.
In minutes, Van Riper emerged victorious over his superior opponent and sank all 19 ships. Had it been real life, 20,000 US sailors and marines would have died.
Millennium Challenge 2002 was a complete disaster for the Pentagon, which had spent a quarter of a billion dollars to set up the extensive war game.
It produced the exact opposite outcome they wanted.
So what did the Pentagon do with these humbling results?
Like a child playing a video game, they hit the reset button. They then rigged and scripted the game so that the US was guaranteed to win.
After realizing the integrity of the war game had been compromised, a disgusted Van Riper walked out mid-game. He then said:
“Nothing was learned from this. And a culture not willing to think hard and test itself does not augur well for the future.”
The main lesson of Millennium Challenge 2002 is that aircraft carriers—the biggest and most expensive ships ever built—wouldn’t last a single day in combat against even a regional power like Iran. Russia and China would have an even easier time dispatching them. They are overpriced toys.
That means the US has wasted untold trillions on military hardware that could prove to be worthless in a serious conflict.
Nonetheless, the US government still parades aircraft carriers around the world from time to time to try to intimidate its enemies.
However, it’s a flawed strategy prone to catastrophic results if someone calls their bluff.
While Millennium Challenge 2002 occurred more than 20 years ago, it is of paramount importance today.
Iran has substantially improved its asymmetric and unconventional warfare capabilities. It’s doubtful the US military would fare much better today than 20 years ago.
In short, war with Iran today could be even more disastrous than the Millennium Challenge 2002 simulation.
Iran ran its own war games:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Prophet_IX
Israel-Iran war game
https://thebulletin.org/2024/02/wargame-simulated-a-conflict-between-israel-and-iran-it-quickly-went-nuclear/amp/
Posted by: Now | Jun 18 2025 15:49 utc | 69
🚀 Iran deploys its Fattah hypersonic missile, can hit targets at over 13x the speed of sound — IRIB
With extreme maneuverability outside the atmosphere and a separate engine in its warhead
Image by IRIB News
The separate engine in the warhead is interesting, but considering the videos we have seen it is obviously true.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:50 utc | 70
About the pretext of nuclear enrichment:
Netanyahu's 30 years of claiming Iran is on the verge of nuclear weapons — CNN compilation
US intel says Iran isn’t building one — but Trump still said he 'doesn't care'
https://t.me/rtnews/99617
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:52 utc | 71
RE: notorious US failed/manipulated war game vs. Iran, IIRC they took into account regional proxies like Hizbullah and Syria which have now been seriously handicapped, but I could be wrong.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:53 utc | 72
republic of Scotland@1546 June18
Those three carriers may be very tempting for Izzy false-flag attacks. If so, would U.$. "sources" support the allegations?
Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 18 2025 15:54 utc | 73
USS Nimitz (CVN-68)
USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)
USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78)"
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 15:46 utc | 68
The Nimitz is only leading the way to the false flag designed to get the American People all stirred up and willing to die for Israel.
Remember the USS Liberty.
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 15:56 utc | 74
It is not a matter of if the USA actively participates, but when and how.
Public support for entering the war in the USA is low. How big of an Israeli sponsored false flag is needed to shift that?
Trump has to appear to be reluctant, but this is your daily reminder that Zion-Don is 100% owned by Adelson-Netanyahu.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jun 18 2025 15:57 utc | 75
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 15:39 utc | 57
Trump will indeed give the greenlight but not because of brits/europe going to save bibi ass.
Brits/europe have more or less nothing remaking.
I can picture the HMS Prince of Wales used as a false flag when selfsinking herself.
Posted by: Mario | Jun 18 2025 15:57 utc | 76
I think Trump and the EU are happy to let Bibi and Israel get best up a little. That seems to track with Trump's personality. Trump would love to be able to say he pulled Bibi/Israel's fat out of the fire. This also could be the only way to navigate politically.
The Zionists are delusional, they don't know how bad it is. History is rife with these blind spots being terminal. While the few in the IDF government know the truth, they aren't above magical thinking. They have their Swiss Army kni es, boy scout kit and they're ready for an adventure. They can blind the missiles with the glint of sun off the knives, God promised.
Israel needs to worry about internal groups defecting far more than Iran. The Palestinians in Lebanon might well be itching for a fight or eyeing settlements in the West Bank, Golan, and Shifa Farms. ([Trump voice] nobody talks about Shifa anymore, it used to e Shifa this and Shifa that. But you don't hear a peep of Shifa)
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 18 2025 15:58 utc | 77
Chunga re: didn't participate in the US elections
I didn't either, I voted for Jill Stein
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 18 2025 16:00 utc | 78
Can't confirm.
"An Iranian delegation for negotiation may have just landed in Muscat, Oman.
Earlier two iranian government planes were enroute to Oman."
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935344520029425692#m
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 16:00 utc | 79
I can picture the HMS Prince of Wales used as a false flag when selfsinking herself.
Posted by: Mario | Jun 18 2025 15:57 utc | 76
I wonder if that earlier incident of tankers in flames near the gulf was a rehearsal for a false flag ...
Assuming of course such things need to be rehearsed.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 18 2025 16:00 utc | 80
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 18 2025 15:27 utc | 33
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Yup.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 15:40 utc | 59
If you mean the full version, no just the ~2min teaser from yesterday I believe is all that is released yet.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 16:02 utc | 81
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 18 2025 15:58 utc | 77
Your fooling yourself by listening to what he says rather than looking at what he does. That goes all the way back to his first term. He assassinated General Qasem Soleimani.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Time to admit he lied to you.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 16:05 utc | 82
I have read a lot of the posts on Iran-Isr ‘war’, not all, didn’t see this mentioned …?
Israel has barred its citizens from leaving the country.
"According to Haaretz, the government instructed domestic airlines not to permit Israeli nationals to board outbound flights."
from Middle East Eye, June 17.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250617-israel-has-barred-its-citizens-from-leaving-the-country/
Here Hareetz, June 16.
The Israeli government has instructed domestic airlines not to allow Israeli citizens to leave the country on planes designated for the repatriation of Israelis stranded abroad.
The second part of the sentence is just obfuscation.
Why are Israelis blocked from leaving? Reminds me of Palestinians not allowed to leave the concentration camps...
Imho because about 2 million or more would flee...
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Posted by: Noirette | Jun 18 2025 16:06 utc | 83
This was Trump speaking outside the Whitehouse today - the occasion putting up flag poles.
"We want unconditional surrender from Iran
That means, That's it, I've had enough.
They are completely defenseless
We are gonna go blow the whole nuclear stuff all over the place."
Did he just announced war on Iran?"
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935343025326338103#m
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 16:07 utc | 84
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 18 2025 16:02 utc | 81
I've posted the link above it is on you tube in an hour.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 16:07 utc | 85
Chunga re: didn't participate in the US elections
I didn't either, I voted for Jill Stein
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 18 2025 16:00 utc | 78
Ah, but you still participated. You consented to the "election process." You cast a vote.
Posted by: Nooneuknow | Jun 18 2025 16:08 utc | 86
Brain dead Pahlavi is doing his three ring circus act in DC
"Today Prince Reza Pahlavi addressed a bipartisan group of members of the United States House of Representatives."
https://x.com/PahlaviComms/status/1935363257075949955
Poor Zio Comic in Kiev will not like this show as it signals that the shekels are not going to be going his way anymore. The Eastern fronts are going to be rolled up by Russia like grass with a grass eater.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 16:08 utc | 87
According to this Iran's internet is all but down - is something big happening?
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1935340621343932668#m
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 16:10 utc | 88
Until these 2 strategic targets are hit and takeb out, its likely to continue for weeks or months.
1) Ashkelon Coal Fired Power Plant rated at 2.25GW
2) Ashdod Refinery https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashdod_Oil_Refineries
Watch closely
Posted by: Exile | Jun 18 2025 16:10 utc | 89
Is there a way for Iran to destroy the tankers while they are refueling Israeli jets in the air? Aren't there drones that can do this?
Posted by: Georgie | Jun 18 2025 16:10 utc | 90
"US Air Force B-21 Stealth Bombers Spotted in Israel
Apparently, they will soon be involved in the final solution of the Iranian issue."
Posted by: Mary | Jun 18 2025 16:12 utc | 91
Posted by: Georgie | Jun 18 2025 16:10 utc | 90 "Is there a way for Iran to destroy the tankers while they are refueling Israeli jets in the air? Aren't there drones that can do this?"
Yeah, they are called anti-aircraft missiles / systems. A lot of them where knocked out early on in the parts of Iran that this refueling is going on in.
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 18 2025 16:12 utc | 92
Is there a way for Iran to destroy the tankers while they are refueling Israeli jets in the air?
Posted by: Georgie | Jun 18 2025 16:10 utc | 90
Absolutely. If they're willing to take the USA on directly.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 18 2025 16:12 utc | 93
There is more and more talk of the old junky aircraft carrier being destroyed in a false flag event. The solution to this is obvious. Don't waste anything on that one. Shoot at ALL the other ones. If you're gonna sink one you might as well sink them all.
Posted by: chunga | Jun 18 2025 16:13 utc | 94
Intel Slava
🇺🇸🇮🇱🇮🇷❗️Trump has received a number of proposals from his national security team regarding actions regarding Iran, ABC News reports, citing several sources.
According to the channel, the president is considering options that include the potential use of American military resources to strike Iranian nuclear facilities.
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Posted by: Mary | Jun 18 2025 16:13 utc | 95
Iran has sent 3 government planes to Oman.
Intel Slava
Forwarded from
Geopolitics Watch
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Levant
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🇮🇷✈️🇴🇲 — Two additional Iranian government planes have landed in Oman.
➡️An Iranian journalist says sending the three government planes to Oman may be to rescue aircraft from being targeted, not to establish a negotiating delegation, because a delegation doesn't need three aircraft.
➡️A similar measure was taken by Israel at the start of the war, when “Wing Of Zion” was moved to Athens to avoid getting targeted.
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Posted by: Mary | Jun 18 2025 16:15 utc | 96
That would be just like Starmer – the obedient puppet.
“Britain is considering possible military support if U.S. President Trump orders a strike on Iran.
Prime Minister Keir Starmer is convening a Cobra (emergency) meeting to assess the situation.”
Source – The Times.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 18 2025 16:16 utc | 97
The piece from Larry Johnson -
"Trump continued his intemperate postings on Truth Social until he convened a meeting of his National Security Council in Washington, DC this afternoon."
Apparently Putin has also talked to Trump. Backing away from the abyss...
Also for those that think Russia is not doing enough - it was Iran who chose not to enter in to a official mutual defense treaty with Russia.
These strikes into Iran? Where are the aircraft launching from? Also, I have seen photos of very high flying drones in the clear skies over Iran but none of fighter jets. They must be using long range air launched missiles from outside Iran's air defences.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 18 2025 16:17 utc | 98
Time to admit he lied to you.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 18 2025 16:05 utc | 82
I doubt he ever stops.
ENJOY THIS ONE
https://mashable.com/video/trump-western-villain-tv-clip
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 18 2025 16:17 utc | 99
Israeli Minister & Cabinet member, Gila Gamliel:Wasn't aware of how bad it is. Categorically! (I see Johan also stuck on that one.) I sometimes wonder if posters in a pro-zionist forum gnash their teeth and wail, "Where's the US support for Israel?" (Mirroring statements here for Russian/Chinese support for Iran.)“We categorically demand that the United States join the war against Iran”.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 18 2025 14:49 utc | 5Thanks for sharing, I didn't know any of these guys. They sounded genuine. I really like when someone can admit an error.Dave Smith @ Krystal Ball: https://x.com/krystalball/status/1934628084390543399
Posted by: Konami | Jun 18 2025 16:18 utc | 100
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https://english.aawsat.com/features/5155431-what-know-about-bunker-buster-bombs-and-iran%E2%80%99s-fordo-nuclear-facility
Correct me if I'm wrong here but I think as a matter of physics bunker buster bombs could be defeated by tech similar to active armor on tanks. Shaped charges pointing upwards to compensate for a blast coming down. Haven't heard anyone discuss this ....
Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 18 2025 14:43 utc | 1