Tic-Toc Thread On The War On Iran – 2

June 16, 2025

Machine translated from Hebrew:

Yossi Melman @yossi_melman – 5:50 UTC · Jun 15, 2025

The euphoria was brief. On Friday morning, I asked if it was even necessary to start a war with the Iranians. Shiites are historically willing to suffer. I mentioned their willingness to sacrifice as demonstrated in the 8 years of attrition with Iraq. I recommend that we cut our losses. Ask Trump to stop the scramble for a reasonable agreement. Otherwise, we’ll end up begging for a cease-fire and Iran will refuse.

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Yossi Melman @yossi_melman – 6:22 UTC · Jun 16, 2025

There is no one to stop the madness. Ariel Kahana, political commentator for Israel Hayom, writes about Israel’s response plan to attack population centers: The IDF will announce in the coming hours an evacuation order for neighborhoods in Tehran. After that, the air force will bring down buildings, similar to what Israel did in Beirut.

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Somewhere in Idaho a middle aged couple is thinking of their son.
Even when they aren’t consciously thinking of him he is always
there in the back of their minds.
They are proud that he is serving his country, concerned that
he is in the volatile Middle East.
They trust our country’s leaders to make the right decisions
about the use of our military forces.
Unbeknownst to them, their son has a target on his back.
Once again Netanyahu needs sacrificial lambs.
Israel and the US have on the drawing board plans for a false-flag.
Will it be activated or sit on a shelf?
Will Israel’s offensive against Iran have set backs such that
it must have the “US cavalry” come over the hill to
rescue the situation for Israel?
Trump will have plausible deniability. His Cabinet and
Joint Chiefs of Staff will trust that he will do
“the right thing”
when Israel attacks a US asset and it is blamed on Iran.
Somewhere in Idaho a middle aged couple has a son with a
target on his back c/o Netanyahu.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 16 2025 15:19 utc | 201

So why are all these US, UK, and German Kc135’s and Kc10’s and Kc46’s heading to Cyprus?
My answer to that is that the IDF aviation fuel tank farms have been hit by Iranian missiles strikes, and that the IDF is now critically short of that fuel type.
Thus the aerial tank relayn from Cyprus to keep the IDF fighter bombers in the air.
We have seen in the last few days photos of the Haifa tank farms in flames, and generally the aviation fuel for the IDF comes into the Haifa port via seaborne tankers from international sources.
Added to the loss of aircraft from Iranian AAD and maintenance issues the IDF is apparently experiencing some severe operational issues.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 15:19 utc | 202

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 15:13 utc | 194
F-35s, F-16s, F-4s, Tornados, Typhoons, Rafales, Mirages, whatever.
There’s only so much jet fuel in theatre, and they all need maintenance.
NATO/ Izzy airforces don’t have the depth of forces to maintain round the clock operations like they used to (if they ever did) and like the RF does today.
They can only swarm for so long.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 15:19 utc | 203

Johan Kaspar @163:
What have YOU done?

Posted by: SLM | Jun 16 2025 15:20 utc | 204

Even though the IDF has approx 245 deliverable tactical nuclear warheads in stock (most “stolen” from the US under the LBJ regime), they are now un-usable.
Both the RF and Pakistan have clearly stated that Iran is now under their nuclear umbrellas…….game, set and match.

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 15:23 utc | 205

🇨🇦🇮🇷🇮🇱 G7 Draft: Iran Must Never Get Nukes, Israel Has Right to Self-Defense
A draft G7 summit statement in Canada declares that Iran “must never obtain nuclear weapons” and affirms Israel’s “right to self-defense,” according to Reuters.
Earlier, the agency reported that Trump refused to sign the G7 statement on Iran and Israel. No details were given.

the usual bullshit from the statesponsors of terrorism.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 16 2025 15:24 utc | 206

I looked into it a quite a bit. Used rather than stooge I think.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 14:04 utc | 146
Peter AU1 means that Khomeini was used when he closed the nuclear power projects or perhaps also used in a wider sense.
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Well who was Khomeini?
According to linguists he spoke only 200 words of the ‘maternal’ language. I assume they meant Farsi.
And there are rumours that he was the son of British agent William Richard Williamsson from Bristol. According to his colleagues in the oil industry he went native and lived like a muslim with multiple wifes.
Some blogger pasted a picture of Khomeini with the barb removed and liked to demonstrate a seeming likeness with Sean Connery.
Khomeini’s son confirmed around 2011 that his fathers origin was not clear. Offically his father was from India but Khomeini was a tool for the anglosaxons with the Muslim Brotherhood as an important factor.
It could hardly escape his attention that he wasnt innocently used. The British gave him vast support transmitting his recorded speaches to Iran.
He was a fully aware accomplice of the anglosaxon regime change operation although the term may not have been as common at the time.
I think Lenin Khomeini and Julian Assange all were in a related situation. They all knew they were not innocents acting along their purehearted righteous agenda.
They might all have been thinking that they might do some good along the way and therefore accepted their dependence.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 16 2025 15:25 utc | 207

israel “not targeting civilians” just killed 18 civilians in the iranian state tv building.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 16 2025 15:27 utc | 208

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 14:26 utc | 163
For fucks sake. The “humanitarian” aid called flour massacres? What have the Gulf Monarchs done for Gaza SINCE 2023? And how w about you, ya big important shill for billionaire kings? What have you done? Nothing, that’s what, nothing but shill for billionaire monarchs

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 15:27 utc | 209

UWDude | Jun 16 2025 15:14 utc | 196–
Almost from the outset, Friday-Saturday, and reported by several at MoA.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2025 15:28 utc | 210

petergrfstrm: take your bullshit conspiracy fantasies to another place.
St. Petersburg 1917 and Tehran 1979 were real events. You are fake.

Posted by: Konami | Jun 16 2025 15:28 utc | 211

Both the RF and Pakistan have clearly stated that Iran is now under their nuclear umbrellas…….game, set and match.
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 15:23 utc | 206
RF I know is not true.
Pakistan Karlof says Pakistan vowed, whiting for for Source on that.
I know RF has not pledged nuclear umbrella, because that was part of a quasi-deal they were offering if lran let Russia hold their nuclear fuel,

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 15:29 utc | 212

Oh Kim, Buddhism doesn’t always turn the cheek, Buddhism is an attack on Brahmin, on supremacy, as is Taoism. Christianity and Islam are attacks on Jewish supremacy, Islam on Christian supremacy. Once supremacy has been embarrassed, then we can go forward in peace, as justice is present.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 16 2025 15:30 utc | 213

Almost from the outset, Friday-Saturday, and reported by several at MoA.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2025 15:28 utc | 211
and also refuted as rumors.
It is a HUGE deal to pledge to go to nuclear war for another country.
AI says:
A senior Iranian military official, General Mohsen Rezaei of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), claimed on June 16, 2025, that Pakistan would launch a nuclear attack on Israel if Israel uses nuclear weapons against Iran.
This statement was made during an interview on Iranian state television amid heightened tensions between Iran and Israel following recent airstrikes by Israel on Iranian military and nuclear facilities.
Pakistan has denied making any such assurance to Iran regarding nuclear retaliation against Israel.
The Pakistani Defence Minister, Khawaja Asif, reaffirmed that Pakistan supports Iran diplomatically and morally but has not issued any official statement endorsing the use of nuclear weapons against Israel.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 15:34 utc | 214

Tobias Cole@1519 June 16
Seems obvious to me that Iran is giving serious consideration to hit the Brits where they will not enjoy…their huge base in Cyprus. Knocking out that forward operations station and the closest bases would be well up into Greece…a fair distance from the center of action.
some would blather that the Iranians would be escalating their actions. Bull!

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 16 2025 15:34 utc | 215

Pakistan Karlof says Pakistan vowed, whiting for for Source on that.
Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 15:29 utc | 213
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Pakistan is a herd of cats.
WTF are you typing with? Neuralink? Its glitching out.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 15:36 utc | 216

@ Justpassinby | Jun 16 2025 15:24 utc | 207
the country i live in – canada – it totally beholden to all the bullshit of ‘israel can do no wrong’ ideology..
many of us canucks view it diametrically the exact opposite… our country is full of shite on this topic…

Posted by: james | Jun 16 2025 15:37 utc | 217

—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 BREAKING: Israel orders the evacuation of almost the entirety of District 3 in Tehran
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20068
—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 NEW: Iran issues an evacuation order for a large area in Tel Aviv: ‘We will soon take action — being in the presence of military and security sites puts your life at risk’
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20077
—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 WATCH: The moment that Iran’s IRIB broadcasting was targeted live on air
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20079
—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 NEW: IRIB has resumed live broadcasting, the host asks Israel: ‘Come on, target us again!’
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20081
Live view from the IRIB building, where broadcast is still currently ongoing.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20089

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 15:37 utc | 218

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 16 2025 15:25 utc | 208
Makruh mind. Start with your own geneology. You might find loads of interesting information. Leave those revered by hundreds of millions alone. Your slander is pathetic and totally off topic. The garbage you are suggesting occurs as a routing in the lands your kind inhabit.

Posted by: sal | Jun 16 2025 15:37 utc | 219

Otto Penn@1519 June 16
False Flags are US: “Remember the Maine; Remember the Lusitania; Remember Pearl Harbor; Remember the Gulf of Tonkin; Remember Weapons of Mass Distraction”…and on and on it goes.
With alternative media all over the landscape, a good many Americans are fast becoming disabused about the propaganda pissed out by the Main$cream Mass Media of Mindfuckery.
“Fool me once…”

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 16 2025 15:39 utc | 220

@215
Which neocon trained yourllm?

Posted by: paddy | Jun 16 2025 15:39 utc | 221

reply to 191
You didn’t answer my objection. These reports are popping up across social media, Drudge and other sites. Simply calling them “baseless” without evidence doesn’t add anything to the coverage – unless you have specific knowledge of why they’re baseless. Unfortunately, Iran must avoid humiliation here or regime change starts to look possible. If Iran has called for a ceasefire, they’re defeated in some practical sense.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:39 utc | 222

WTF are you typing with? Neuralink? Its glitching out.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 15:36 utc | 217
stylus plus spellcheck its balls but getting used to it.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 15:39 utc | 223

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 15:19 utc | 202
Israel, as others have pointed out, doesn’t have air tanker.
They must have external assistance.
Why the US send tankers is yet to be seen.
Strategic bombers in Diego Garcia, that can carry the 12ton bunker buster, should have enough range to not need refueling and, by the way there are some tankers in DG as well.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 16 2025 15:40 utc | 224

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2025 15:11 utc | 192
You say that Pakistan “vowed” – is that literally true?
I doubt if that would hold. It seems to me that there is frequency a lot of brave talk that somehow is forgotten when SHTF.
My impression is that the US military is really itching to make use of “tactical” nukes.
They kept threatening to do so in Ukraine.
US military prefers where they have technological advantage – rather than some kind of slug-fest.
And they are relatively cost effective.
And (rather bizarrely) I think it would play to Trump’s ego – he will be remembers as a powerful leader akin to Truman, he imagines. I am coming to the belief that Trump is really a child in an adult’s body (Fat Bastard).
I am hoping that we only have to survive until 2026 and they will impeach the guy.

Posted by: jared | Jun 16 2025 15:41 utc | 225

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:39 utc | 223

Another pseudo-concerned shitposter. “Iran must avoid humiliation” my ass. This is not prom night or a video game. Go back to where you found those “reports”.

Posted by: Konami | Jun 16 2025 15:42 utc | 226

@208
Israel and U$$A can’ chase launchers, can’t MOAB nuke labs, can’t create enough MEK terrorists
So, they have to do Beirut to Persian cities…

Posted by: paddy | Jun 16 2025 15:43 utc | 227

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 15:37 utc | 219
Of course Israel is targeting journalists again. Did you see the smug ass quote from the IOF just prior to the TV station attack? Truly standup people those Zionists.
BTW is it still true that 80%+ of attacks in Iran are coming from inside 200km?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 15:44 utc | 228

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 15:44 utc | 229
i think your last quote is true tom… that is my impression…

Posted by: james | Jun 16 2025 15:45 utc | 229

@206
You mean Israeli A bombs have not been life extended atlas Alamos?

Posted by: paddy | Jun 16 2025 15:46 utc | 230

The moment that Iran’s IRIB broadcasting was targeted live on air
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20079
IRIB has resumed live broadcasting, the host asks Israel: ‘Come on, target us again!’
IRIB says they knew of an incoming Israeli strike, but chose to remain in place, and they will continue to broadcast ‘even without a studio, if necessary’

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 15:48 utc | 231

Anyone reading “reports” that they can’t even bother linking to saying “Iran is seeking a ceasefire” before the Yankees get involved is either delusional, making stuff up or reading Hasbara Facebook posts. There is nothing of the sort on Drudge, CNN, etc. And I’m watching live TG feeds of Iranian state TV and other Iranian sources saying the exact opposite. They are not looking for a ceasefire, they’re promising not to.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 15:48 utc | 232

reply to 223
You also did not answer the claims. Now, it’s Yahoo, Glenn Greenwald and the Wall Street Journal reporting on Iran’s eagerness to end the conflict.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:48 utc | 233

“You say that Pakistan “vowed” – is that literally true?
I doubt if that would hold. It seems to me that there is frequency a lot of brave talk that somehow is forgotten when SHTF.”
Real question would be if they could do anything else then punish Israel with annihilation if it dares to kill hunredthousands if not millions of innocent Muslims with a nuclear bomb.
And what will the USA do in that case? Or NATO? Declare war on Pakistan? Good luck…

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 16 2025 15:49 utc | 234

IRIB host congratulates his colleagues with their martyrdom, asks people to pray that he receives the same fate
IRIB statement: ‘The Zionists will not silence the voice of the Iranian nation’
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20089

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 15:49 utc | 235

These reports are popping up across social media
Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:39 utc | 223
wait…you mean… on the internet!??
Oh shit, bro!

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 15:49 utc | 236

@226
In the 1950s U$$A was big into tac nuke in Central Europe
Atomic cannons nuclear bb’s
Mushroom clouds in sight of the forward observation pits.
Everything old is new again.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 16 2025 15:51 utc | 237

Anyone reading “reports” that they can’t even bother linking to saying “Iran is seeking a ceasefire” before the Yankees get involved is either delusional, making stuff up or reading Hasbara Facebook posts.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 15:48 utc | 233
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The Murdock’s have a blog they call The Wall Street Journal.
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/a-battered-iran-signals-it-wants-to-de-escalate-hostilities-with-israel-and-negotiate-9feab4ae?mod=hp_lead_pos1

Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 15:51 utc | 238

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:48 utc | 234
C’mon, the WSJ.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 16 2025 15:51 utc | 239

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:48 utc | 234
It makes perfect sense that Iran is seeking to end the conflict. By ending the conflict, they win, because the goal of the US/Israel is regime change in Iran.
Berletic has been saying this for months and it makes perfect sense.
The problem is that I do not believe the US/Israel will allow Iran to end the conflict. Precisely because if the conflict ends, they lose and Iran wins.

Posted by: WJ | Jun 16 2025 15:51 utc | 240

A small sampling of the delusion in US media, courtesy of the Drudge Report.
“Israel has taken full control of Iran’s skies”: https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-takes-control-of-irans-skiesa-feat-that-still-eludes-russia-in-ukraine-846ccb95
A sampling of the smug one-sided BS (and germane to the TV station strike).
“Israel Defense Minister: Iran State TV About to Disappear”: https://insiderpaper.com/iran-state-tv-radio-about-to-disappear-israel-defence-minister/
NYT: “Iran portrayed as tough regional power, but has taken blow after blow since 2023”: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/16/world/iran-israel-news?unlocked_article_code=1.PU8.tJk2.2MCJzSHO9dRt&smid=url-share#iran-military-defense

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 15:51 utc | 241

Why is Iran allowing the colonial state of Israel to control the pace of this war? Not only should they bomb the evil entity’s tv stations, they should bomb their radio stations too, bomb the military hospitals, bomb all electronic stores. Why are there still skyscrapers in Jaffa aka Tel Aviv?

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 16 2025 15:52 utc | 242

@Georgie
They will destroy Israeli TV and radio stations tonight, don’t worry.
Israel will be deaf and blind. Dumb they are already.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 15:53 utc | 243

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 16 2025 15:52 utc | 243
Because Iran’s aim is not to destroy Israel, it is to cause just enough damage to Israel to broker a ceasefire, but not too much damage to get the US involved.

Posted by: WJ | Jun 16 2025 15:54 utc | 244

Claims of a Chinese cargo plane landing in Tehran.
https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1934576694897053926

Posted by: Afro | Jun 16 2025 15:55 utc | 245

Posted by: Innuendo | Jun 16 2025 15:20 utc | 205
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China has made multiple deliveries to Tehran over the last 2 days.
Iran is not alone. Iran is the tip of the spear. America is being drawn into a trap (again).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 15:55 utc | 246

too scents:
Yeah typical Orwellian Newspeak reporting from the Murdick Family of Family Blogs.

DUBAI—Iran has been urgently signaling that it seeks an end to hostilities and resumption of talks over its nuclear programs, sending messages to Israel and the U.S. via Arab intermediaries, Middle Eastern and European officials said.

Meanwhile, what the Iranians have REALLY said.

“The Iranians informed Qatari and Omani mediators that they will only pursue serious negotiations once Iran has completed its response to the Israeli pre-emptive strikes,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the conflict….The official also dismissed media reports suggesting that Iran had asked Oman and Qatar to involve the United States in brokering a ceasefire or to revive nuclear negotiations, calling such claims inaccurate.
Requests for comment from Iran’s Foreign Ministry, as well as Qatar’s and Oman’s foreign ministries, were not immediately answered.

The Zionist owned western presstitutes are getting anxious.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 15:56 utc | 247

reply to 241
I appreciate your response. At least, that’s a better way to frame it but can we imagine Iran being allowed to process nuclear fuel by agreement after this conflict ends? If so, that’s less than humiliation – and they ‘live to fight another day’.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:56 utc | 248

They will destroy Israeli TV and radio stations tonight, don’t worry.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 15:53 utc | 244
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That would be very stupid. Israeli media serves Iran’s interests.
The IRCG should hit meaningful targets in purposeful order. Just as they are doing.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 15:57 utc | 249

@Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 15:44 utc | 229

BTW is it still true that 80%+ of attacks in Iran are coming from inside 200km?

I can’t tell for sure but there are many reports of collaborators and spies being captured in Iran. One was hanged this morning.
Pictures of Mossad spy Ismail Fikri who was hanged to death today morning
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42740
Mossad mercenaries are burning tires and setting fires around Imam Khomeini Airport in Tehran to scare people
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42753
🇮🇷 caught a foreign mossad operative moments ago
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42758
🇮🇷 Another Mossad agent caught in the act of preparing to launch a drone from a construction site
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42760

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 15:57 utc | 250

@203
Pilots wear out faster than aircraft.
U$$A has spare part supply chain for hundreds of F-16 and F-35. Also pilots and planes to lend.
U$$A also has hundreds of KCs and jet fuel stock delivered by commercial tanker ship, for this war planned decades ago.
Sadly all this will do no better than what U$$A did to the Houthi.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 16 2025 15:58 utc | 251

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 16 2025 15:52 utc | 243
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All of this pacing is to delay a nuclear exchange. Iran is slow playing things. Just as Russia has been doing in Ukraine.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 15:59 utc | 252

https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42765
🇮🇷⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇱 IRGC General Vahidi: We are ready for a long and all-out war / We will soon bring our new surprises to the battlefield.
The advisor to the commander of the IRGC told Tasnim:
we will use our other capabilities soon and new-generation missiles are just part of it.
Reducing missile stocks is a joke ; we have not yet made sufficient strategic use of our missile capabilities; whenever we see fit,
We have no concerns about the war prolonging , and in the coming days, the world will see what surprises Iran will bring to the field.
Day by day, the conditions on the field will improve in all aspects of the war, and we may also use our other capacities.
Our hands are wide open to make the Zionist regime miserable , and in the near future everyone will see what capabilities and power the Iranian armed forces possess in various fields.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 16:00 utc | 253

Russian news outlet ‘Ruptly’, a subsidiary of Russia Today, says their building and crew was threatened with an immediate Israeli strike and they had to evacuate
Middle_East_Spectator

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 16:01 utc | 254

it’s Yahoo, Glenn Greenwald and the Wall Street Journal reporting on Iran’s eagerness to end the conflict.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:48 utc | 234
As far as I can trace, the report started with the Wall Street Journal, possibly as a market-moving exercise, as soon as the report hit the wires oil prices dropped and stocks rose.
Then, of course, the Mighty Wurlitzer of Western MSM spins up, with everybody quoting everyone else as a “source”; the WSJ itself, from what I can see in excerpts not behind a paywall, doesn’t directly quote any Iranian sources.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 16 2025 16:01 utc | 255

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 15:57 utc | 251
My question is exactly how they figured out these people are collaborators.
Aside from catching them red-handed, that is.
Mossad likes to pull dirty tricks like pin blame on random victims. Namestealers and Shapeshifters.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:02 utc | 256

Greenwald is reporting this? Where? X? I haven’t seen it and he doesn’t do his video report until later in the afternoon.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 16:02 utc | 257

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 15:23 utc | 206 “Both the RF and Pakistan have clearly stated that Iran is now under their nuclear umbrellas…….game, set and match.”
Got a link to either one of those countries stating that?

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:03 utc | 258

see the photos at the first link
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1934609760558665746
Patarames @Pataramesh
After Israeli air & missile defenses are degraded sufficiently by aero-ballistic missile strikes:
➡️ The phase of mass One-Way-Attack drones will start
Missile forces will then focus to disrupt airbase operations
https://x.com/Aboujahjah/status/1934203861440282720
Dyab Abou Jahjah @Aboujahjah
Two days ago, Israel assassinated nine Iranian scientists — university professors and researchers — in targeted airstrikes. Some of them were killed together with their families. Western media is acting as if this is an act of war.
Yet, this is a war crime, here’s why. 🧵 1/
2/ Under international law, these scientists are civilians. A university professor does not lose civilian status simply because their expertise may have military applications.
3/ Unless they are active members of the armed forces or directly participating in hostilities at the time, scientists are protected under the Geneva Conventions.
3/ This principle exists to safeguard academics, engineers, and researchers everywhere from becoming expendable targets in geopolitical conflicts.
https://x.com/Aboujahjah/status/1934205442911269257
4/ Not just in Iran, Palestinian scholars, engineers and even doctors in Gaza have repeatedly been assassinated or killed in airstrikes on universities and research centers.
In various countries, experts in nuclear and missile research were also assassinated by Israel.
5/ Yet, where is the indignation of the global academic community? Where are the statements from universities, scientific associations, human rights defenders, and those who claim to defend academic freedom?
6/ One must ask: Would the silence be the same if another state killed nine Israeli or Western professors in their offices or laboratories?
7/ Academic freedom must not be selective. The principle of distinction under international humanitarian law must apply equally to all.
https://x.com/Aboujahjah/status/1934206981734101486
8/ The targeted killing of scholars sets a dangerous precedent that threatens civilian expertise worldwide, irrespective of nationality or political context. Again and again, Israeli criminal practices and the impunity it enjoys are a danger to all.
This impunity must end.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 16:03 utc | 259

The Israeli government has banned outbound flights. The Zionist hoi polloi are trapped. If 2 million people leave Israel is done. They can’t allow that.
Wait until the retiring Nimitz is used as a false flag.
Things are just starting to get good.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 16:03 utc | 260

“Fool me once…” [aristodemos]
If we’re talking about Americans, I believe the full expression is
Fool me once, fool me twice, fool me thrice, fool me four times, fool me five times, fool me six times, fool me 7x, fool me 8x, fool me 9x, fool me 10 times, fool me 11 times, fool me 12 times, fool me 13 times, fool me 14 times, fool me 15 times, fool me 16 times, fool me 17 times, fool me 18 times, fool me… ad inf.

Posted by: petra | Jun 16 2025 16:04 utc | 261

Posted by: paddy | Jun 16 2025 15:58 utc | 252 “Pilots wear out faster than aircraft.”
Which is why air forces have more pilots than aircraft.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:05 utc | 262

@ Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 15:51 utc | 239
“The WSJ” – You might as well cite the NY Times.
Are you actually not yet aware that these publications are functionally CIA operations?
Do you dispute that view?
What sense would it make for Iran to have gotten to the point where they are and then signal capitulation?
Seriously.

Posted by: jared | Jun 16 2025 16:05 utc | 263

The Iranian drone and missile retaliation seems a little late today.
Use it or lose it, Iran … use it or lose it.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:07 utc | 264

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 15:19 utc | 202 “So why are all these US, UK, and German Kc135’s and Kc10’s and Kc46’s heading to Cyprus?”
ADS-B tracking sites showed that none of the US aircraft went to Cyprus. And how many KC-10’s did you see flying in the last 24 hours?

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:07 utc | 265

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 16:03 utc | 261 “The Israeli government has banned outbound flights.”
How many inbound civil flight have they allowed? Or is it that the airspace is just closed? Because, you know, things are getting blown up in Israel?

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:09 utc | 266

@Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:02 utc | 257
According to claims, most were caught red handed with drones end explosives. It is said that locals are setting up checkpoints.
Obviously I don’t know the truth behind the claims, but some of the videos appear to support it.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 16:09 utc | 267

The Iranian drone and missile retaliation seems a little late today.
Use it or lose it, Iran … use it or lose it.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:07 utc | 265
You keep saying that but the reality is they have to pace themselves, or they will run out of missiles. They may want to keep missiles in case other countries get involved, or they’re waiting to find out when missile defense is depleted, at which point they can send the cheaper stuff.
And they’re using a lot. How many missiles so far? 2000?

Posted by: Afro | Jun 16 2025 16:10 utc | 268

As cited, the path has been opened. Soon Iran can release thousands of drones. Unstoppable in scale.
Israel is so hooped.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 16:11 utc | 269

Now we are rolling. The sympathy brigade has hit the ground. They are using tight shots of damage as to not give away precise locations and interviews.
Fox Spews
ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:07 utc | 266
I saw 11 last night. Cant find any now.

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 16 2025 16:12 utc | 270

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:07 utc | 266
More likely Diego Garcia if in fact the US plans to enter the conflict.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 16:12 utc | 271

….Now, it’s Yahoo, Glenn Greenwald and the Wall Street Journal reporting on Iran’s eagerness to end the conflict.
Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 15:48 utc | 234
uh, not exactly accurate. here is Glennzilla just an hour or so ago, and see the two screenshots he has of WSJ and CNN articles. WSJ is pure propaganda from what I follow in many alternative sources, i.e. Iran is going full steam ahead:
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1934622926604841038
Glenn Greenwald @ggreenwald
WSJ this morning: Iran eager to negotiate with the US and Israel to end the war.
CNN this morning: Iran refuses to negotiate while under attack and until its retaliation against Israel is completed.
Disinformation is always a weapon of war: lets people believe what they want:

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 16:12 utc | 272

Claims of a Chinese cargo plane landing in Tehran.
https://x.com/ricwe123/status/1934576694897053926
Posted by: Afro | Jun 16 2025 15:55 utc | 246
Sounds like Russians as well
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/russian-and-chinese-military-cargo-planes-shuttling-weapons-missiles-supplies-into-iran

Posted by: Feck | Jun 16 2025 16:14 utc | 273

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:09 utc | 267
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My point, Shlomo, is that Israelis cannot leave if they wanted to.
Because, if they leave, Israel will never recover. Instead they will stay and suffer. Perhaps divine justice.
Allahu Akbar.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 16:14 utc | 274

US propaganda is fascinating to watch as it unfolds:
Reuters main headline and subtext at this moment:

Iran urges Trump to make Israel halt war; Netanyahu hails ‘path to victory’
Iranian missiles struck Israel’s Tel Aviv and the port city of Haifa before dawn, destroying homes and fuelling concerns among world leaders at this week’s G7 meeting that the confrontation could lead to a broader regional conflict.

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ps.
I have given notice for the umpteenth time, over the last few months, that librul
is now posting as Otto Penn. Don’t believe I need to notify MoA again.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 16 2025 16:15 utc | 275

Video of reporter outside the burning IRIB studio building
https://t.me/rtnews/99414
Notice his hands are bloodied, but he goes on regardless.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 16:16 utc | 276

Afro | Jun 16 2025 15:55 utc | 246
That was no claim. It was real and they boldy left their ABS-B transponder on while on the ground on to let the Israelis know they were there

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 16 2025 16:16 utc | 277

“Notice his hands are bloodied, but he goes on regardless.”
Posted by: Norwegian
Maybe it’s the blood of somebody else.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 16:17 utc | 278

I believe that the proper context would be:
Iran has signaled that, if there are to be any further negotiations, they will no longer consider any limitations on their ability to enrich uranium nor to develop nuclear weapons should they chose to do so and that they will no longer host the IAEA – which has been spying for the west.
So it is rather extreme resolve is what they are sowing, at this point.
That aside, they remain receptive to negotiations.

Posted by: jared | Jun 16 2025 16:18 utc | 279

…. Why are there still skyscrapers in Jaffa aka Tel Aviv ?……
Priorities have been….
3 power plants
2 refineries
1 big airport
This effectively shuts down Economy. Recall a long drawn out war of attrition is the Likud’s weakness

Posted by: Exile | Jun 16 2025 16:18 utc | 280

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 16:09 utc | 268
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Rural Iranians are forming civilian checkpoints looking for traitors and Mossad.
It’s impressive when intelligent communities mobilize.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 16:18 utc | 281

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 16:12 utc | 273
Trump pretty much says Iran is trying to talk… True it’s Trump saying this but…
https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1934637855596323126

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:18 utc | 282

Posted by: nazcalito | Jun 16 2025 16:19 utc | 283

CANADA – In a stark warning amid rising conflict in the Middle East, U.S. President Donald Trump said today that Iran “will not win this war” and urged Tehran to enter nuclear negotiations before irreversible damage occurs.
“They should talk before it is too late.” He added, “Iran must make a deal before there is nothing left,” underscoring the potential devastation if the conflict continues unchecked.
https://vinnews.com/2025/06/16/president-trump-warns-iran-you-will-not-win-this-war-urges-immediate-talks/
Comment: Everyone who knows anything about the current events and their long history knows that the attack on Iran has nothing to do with any negotiations, but everything to do with the elimination of Iran as an obstacle to US/Israel complete control over the Middle East and the prevention of the process that is birthing a new system of multi-nodal international relations, with Iran as one of the pillars.
– On another note – Once again, in order to keep this blog relevant please be focused, refrain from petty comments and squabbles because we are not actually in a bar where that is not as disruptive, and do not post propaganda but reliable sourced comments.
For example, it is untrue that the Iranian parliament voted to exit the NPT.
We are all presumably adults here, why is it so hard to respect each other and stay on topic.
Most people come here not as a way to pass the time, but for information and INFORMED comment, which are not easy to come by.

Posted by: JB | Jun 16 2025 16:20 utc | 284

“Remarkable statement from Craig Murray:
“Iran’s best strategy would be to view this as the existential crisis, and seriously unload its missile capacity on Israel without restraint.””
And then they will be attacked by the US.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 16:20 utc | 285

Trump is 100% full of shit unless by “Iran” he means MEK or the Shah”s grandson. Lol

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 16:21 utc | 286

Posted by: nazcalito | Jun 16 2025 16:19 utc | 284
I felt that way on Friday, but now I think they need to hold good reserves for U.S.A.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 16:22 utc | 287

“Iran’s best strategy would be to view this as the existential crisis, and seriously unload its missile capacity on Israel without restraint. The period of measured tit-for-tat reprisals is at an end.”
Posted by: nazcalito | Jun 16 2025 16:19 utc | 284
In other words: “Use it or lose it”

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:23 utc | 288

“Notice his hands are bloodied, but he goes on regardless.”
Posted by: Norwegian
Maybe it’s the blood of somebody else.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 16:17 utc | 279

Either way, the effect will be the same as Trump’s Ear.
Izzie own goal.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 16:25 utc | 289

Posted by: nazcalito | Jun 16 2025 16:19 utc | 284
In other words: “Use it or lose it”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:23 utc | 289
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No.
There is a bigger and longer fight coming. No reason to launch everything.
Timing is everything.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 16:26 utc | 290

see the 23-second video at the second link. the Iranian state News agency kept broadcasting even during the attack by israel. This is a crime against humanity,
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1934646605115773323
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
This is a point of no return.
Israel made a grave mistake today by targeting Iran’s identity. This step will likely push Iranian decision-makers to seek redemption in the name of the majority of Iranians—both pro and contra the ruling system—living inside Iran.
Israel aimed to shut down the TV station to pave the way for anti-Iranian government elements living abroad, who may be preparing for a coup with Israel’s support.
Tonight promises to be hellish, with the expected emergence of new Iranian missiles, never before seen, projected to be launched in the darkness.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151888
DD Geopolitics Forwarded from Rybar in English
Strike on Iranian TV📝
According to incoming reports, the strike on the building of the Iranian state television IRIB resulted in 18 deaths.
🖍The strike occurred during a live broadcast, which, as the channel’s representatives later stated, they consciously did not interrupt, despite knowing about the threat. IRIB quickly resumed broadcasting after the attack.
🚩Of course, according to Article 79 of the Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions, journalists are protected even in the zone of military conflict, but these rules do not seem to apply to Israel: two hundred killed journalists in the Gaza Strip were simply working for Hamas, so it happened. Iranian journalists are also a legitimate target, according to Israel.
In fact, Israel committed another war crime live on air. Even taking into account the mocking warning about the evacuation.
❗️The death of journalists and the destruction of media infrastructure during the attack disrupts the flow of critically important information, and with the simultaneous disconnection of communication and the Internet, this can cause mass panic, disorientation of the population and chaos. However, this is apparently what Israel is trying to achieve.
📌The defeat of the media center during the broadcast is not only a physical attack, but also an information and psychological operation, the goal of which is to suppress independent or state broadcasting, to destroy the symbolic control over the public narrative, especially given that the target was the state broadcasting corporation.
#MiddleEast #Israel #Iran #media_technologies ⭐️@rybar

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 16:26 utc | 291

I believe that Donald Trump is screwed away — and that couldn’t happen to a nicer man.
My assumption is that among donors and billionaires, a vast consensus of them are urging him to go to war. He cannot survive without those people. There is no future for him if Iran defeats Israel and the later depopulates. There’s also much of congress and the senate, they’re very reluctantly indulging him in his allegedly slow-walking aid to Ukraine, but they won’t do that for Israel.
But it’s clear that much of the MAGA base will not forgive him. I see the posts from MTG, Carlson, and others, and I just don’t think the public support is there to lose 5 aircraft carriers, 25,000 soldiers, and pay $40/gallon for gas, etc. He ran as the peace president and a lot of people took that seriously.
Stuck between a rock and a hard place. He will make the same decision that Kamala Harris would have made.

Posted by: Afro | Jun 16 2025 16:26 utc | 292

Sounds like Russians as well
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/russian-and-chinese-military-cargo-planes-shuttling-weapons-missiles-supplies-into-iran
Posted by: Feck | Jun 16 2025 16:14 utc | 274
If the Chinese and Russians played their cards right, they have the means and opportunity to take out every single F-xx, AWACS and fuel tanker over Iraq by providing Iran with the right S-400 and HQ-9 systems.
Every. Single. One.
For that matter, Iran could do the same, judging by the way Iran took down Trump’s Global Hawk all those years ago.
Question is, why don’t they appear to be doing the same right now?
Or, are they … ?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:27 utc | 293

There is a bigger and longer fight coming. No reason to launch everything.
Timing is everything.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 16 2025 16:26 utc | 291
Not everything, just double or triple the night before.
But then again – the Ayatollah knows what he’s doing.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:28 utc | 294

The Iranian drone and missile retaliation seems a little late today.
Use it or lose it, Iran … use it or lose it.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 16:07 utc | 265
This time I must respectfully disagree. Iran appears secure in the current situation. I’m sure they’ll keep the missile strikes coming. However they need to be ready for the next phase in this war. They should save their best for when the US military directly enters the fight.

Posted by: EoinW | Jun 16 2025 16:30 utc | 295

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 16:12 utc | 273
Trump pretty much says Iran is trying to talk… True it’s Trump saying this but…
https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1934637855596323126
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:18 utc | 283

Domestic consumption – he and his tribe probably made a few well placed puts before he spoke. Clean up after.
It seems to be his 3 card monty.
As regards any kind of diplomacy, he’s a busted flush.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 16:30 utc | 296

Remarkable statement from Craig Murray:
“Iran’s best strategy would be to view this as the existential crisis, and seriously unload its missile capacity on Israel without restraint. The period of measured tit-for-tat reprisals is at an end.”
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2025/06/starmer-and-lammy-are-terrified/
Posted by: nazcalito | Jun 16 2025 16:19 utc | 284
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Just as in the initial stages of the Ukraine “police action”, people who would otherwise appear intelligent, even wise, are showing a tendency to make ridiculous pronouncements and predictions.

Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 16 2025 16:31 utc | 297

Posted by: JB | Jun 16 2025 16:20 utc | 285
We are all presumably adults here, why is it so hard to respect each other and stay on topic.
Most people come here not as a way to pass the time, but for information and INFORMED comment, which are not easy to come by.
Its a nice thought. When someone post claims without a link to see where the claim came from just move on. No research = nothing of value. This place is a great place to get some info if you can swim through the garbage.

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 16 2025 16:31 utc | 298

Is it just me or has Zero Hedge become totally unreliable in recent months? These days I skip the articles and go straight to the comment section to be entertained by the MAGA rednecks.

Posted by: EoinW | Jun 16 2025 16:34 utc | 299

Trump pretty much says Iran is trying to talk… True it’s Trump saying this but…
https://x.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1934637855596323126
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 16:18 utc | 283
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Or he’s just full of shit. Not the first time, not the last. Just like with his “Russia is desperate to end the war”. I am patiently waiting for the “truthpost” with Ayatollah, STOP!
“We have not received any indication so far that Iran is interested in dialogue,” – Israeli Channel 12.
Al-Jazeera denies the Wall Street Journal report that Iran is open for talks
“Two sources, one senior Iranian official and a well informed regional diplomat denied to me categorically any Iranian signal to end hostilities, the Iranian official told me: Israel started the war not Iran, there were no messages sent in this regard,”

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Jun 16 2025 16:34 utc | 300

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