Calling others cowards while typing self-righteous admonitions on internet fora.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 12:58 utc | 93
Speaking of…how many Gulf Monarchy states have lifted a finger for Gaza?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 13:11 utc | 104

tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 12:47 utc | 87
The Americans like their hangar queens. They also like manicured runways. All Iran has to do is make the manicured runways a little messy and the hangar queens dont come out to play.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 13:13 utc | 106

Vile cowardly Zionists – who fled Zio-Land (occupied Palestine) – landed in Paris – and were met with Free Palestine chants, this is what happened next.
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1934565033192616143#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 13:16 utc | 108

Attacks on Haifa; the reservoirs of which represent the location of 80% of the fuel used by IOF warplanes, shows that these hits could also be one of the reasons for Israel blocking all civil excape flights from Ben Gurion airport. (to save fuel) The incoming US (and UK, French?) and other tanker fleets, by flying out of Akrotiri most probably are for IOF warplane support. Are the IOF still flying out of Cyprus?
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AD. It is now confirmed that the Israeli’s have been supplying AD and mercenaries to Ukraine. I wonder what the Russians think of Israel actively supporting Zelensky against them? I also think that Russian aid to Iran may now be a bit more forthcoming, because of that.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 16 2025 13:19 utc | 110

Can’t confirm – but if true no more visits from the IAEA and the Israeli puppet Rafael Grossi
“Iranian Parliament have just voted to withdraw from Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 13:22 utc | 112

“Vile cowardly Zionists – who fled Zio-Land (occupied Palestine) – landed in Paris – and were met with Free Palestine chants, this is what happened next.”
Political indoctrination has made good Nazis of all and sundry it seems.
I feel no empathy at all. If anyone has deserved a good licking, it is these contemptible people.

Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 16 2025 13:25 utc | 114

#2
Israel can’t do to Tehran what was done to Beirut without significant inside infiltration. This will be a test of Iranian society and solidarity.And a chance to root out some traitors.
It’s already started, see:
https://t.me/NewEasternOutlook_EU/952
🇮🇱🚀🇮🇷 Israeli Spike anti-tank missiles discovered in Iran
🔴 These armed launchers were used by Mossad agents to attack Iranian air defense systems and radars.
🔴 These launchers were apparently controlled remotely via the internet.
and:
🇮🇱📦🇮🇷The discovery of a workshop for the production of drones and explosives, organized by Mossad agents, is reported.
https://t.me/NewEasternOutlook_EU/953

Posted by: Barofsky | Jun 16 2025 13:29 utc | 116

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 13:00 utc | 96 “How many missiles does Iran have and how many can they produce in what timeframe?”
I looked back at information more than 3 months or so old and the number for what the estimate of what they have was somewhere about 2,000 to 3,000 but nothing broke out how many had the capability to reach Israel.
As to what their production is, it’s less than it was a week ago, but given what the Houthis are doing, clearly will stay above 0.
Those numbers given for Hezbollah were fantasy.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 13:31 utc | 118

Not seeing too many satellite photos from the “commercial” providers showing Israeli airfields, or Haifa port facilities, or the IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv.
For some strange reason Maxar and their ilk don’t appear interested in taking anyone’s money for those photos.
Can’t imagine why…..

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 16 2025 13:32 utc | 120

How will Israel, the West, react when Iran starts issuing evacuation orders for cities in Israel so they can destroy them?

Posted by: Marvin | Jun 16 2025 13:37 utc | 122

While you have done nothing for Gaza except type messages for internet fora.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 13:22 utc | 111
And attended some protests. Which is a hell of a lot more than Gulf Kingdoms with billions of dollars and a regional presence have done.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 13:38 utc | 124

Israel Attacks Farabi Hospital in Kermanshah Iran
https://x.com/ayshaahmeds/status/1934524294379217319
“Israel’s actions mirror those of terrorist organizations like ISIS. Bombing hospitals, schools and residential buildings – the same crimes we witnessed in Gaza and Lebanon – are now being carried out in Iran.”
A Modest Proposal From Yemen’s Military
https://x.com/Yemenimilitary/status/1934572083826377174
“The End.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 16 2025 13:39 utc | 126

Looks like the Zionists don’t like a taste of their won medicine – I say tough – Iran should not be fooled into letting its guard down – if this is true, their defence of Iran – via missile and drone attacks on the Zionists, appears to be taking its toll, on the Zionists and their infrastructure, who are so used to dishing it out – but not receiving it back.
“Israel has asked Iran, through western mediators, to stop its retaliatory attacks and return to nuclear negotiations with the United States, American media report.
The Israeli regime is openly threatening Tehran, while secretly reaches out to the Islamic Republic to stop the war, according to the American broadcast television network NBC that quoted a senior Iranian source in Tehran as saying on Monday that Tel Aviv has made the demand through Western countries as intermediaries.
A representative for Israel’s prime minister refused to immediately respond to a request for comment on the matter.
Using his social media platform Truth Social, US President Donald Trump suggested on Sunday that Iran and Israel will end their violent conflict by “making a deal” through his mediation.
“We will have peace, soon, between Israel and Iran. Many calls and meetings now taking place,” he said.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 13:39 utc | 128

From this morning:
Israeli attack on ‘Farabi’ Hospital in Kermanshah. [This is Israel bombing a military target, I guess.]
🇮🇷 — Iran’s defense forces reportedly shot down an Israeli MQ-9 near Dehloran.
An Israeli AD battery, likely Arrow-3, misfires and destroys its own launcher in the Negev.
Iranian ballistic missiles struck an Israeli army barracks in the Galilee, causing a fire, and impacts were also recorded at closed military installations in the Negev – Al Mayadeen
Burning power plant in Haifa
Large scale destruction in Tel Aviv due to Iranian ballistics
Journalist and analyst Raviv Drucker:
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has taken an unreasonable risk, the kind no leader should risk with his country’s fate.
Israel is unable to prevent the extensive damage caused by Iranian ballistic missiles. So far, we have not succeeded in intercepting them, as state propaganda claims. Iran is achieving hits with an accuracy unparalleled by any previous enemy.
Much of the damage is not reported in the media, under the pretext of not revealing the information to the enemy. However, this prevents the public from realizing the magnitude of the price it is paying, and will pay later.
The Israeli military also releases numerous statements about striking Iranian missile launchers and reducing their missile capabilities, but experts in the field doubt Israel’s ability to accomplish this task against a country measuring 1.6 million square kilometers. It may be legitimate to pay a heavy price to eliminate the Iranian nuclear program, but the problem is that all experts agree that this is an impossible outcome. Netanyahu knows this, and his advisor, Tzachi Hanegbi, has publicly acknowledged it.
All the above from: https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator/
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Posted by: teri | Jun 16 2025 13:41 utc | 130

Russia hopes Iranian-Israeli conflict will not impact SPIEF — Kremlin spokesman
Dmitry Peskov said that Russia would keep an eye on the development of the situation
MOSCOW, June 16. /TASS/. Moscow hopes that air traffic restrictions imposed amid the Iranian-Israeli conflict will not be a problem for senior officials from Arab countries who plan to attend the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF), Russian presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov told reporters.
“We hope that this [problems with flights from Arab countries amid the conflict between Iran and Israel] will not happen. High guests, as a rule, arrive by special flights. But nevertheless, there is a reality we are living in. We will keep an eye on the development of the situation,” he said when asked about the presence of high guests from Arab countries at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum amid flight restrictions.
– No comment !

Posted by: JB | Jun 16 2025 13:43 utc | 132

Barofsky@116…..the Russians must tread lightly, with the Aparthied State using remote drones for their attack against Iran, someone might do that to Russia….actually the Russian will turn a blind eye, because they really do know who planed the Trailer Drone Attack and it’s was their wee cousins squatting in Palestine…..
Cheers M
Iraq, gone, Lebanon, gone, Syria, gone, Jordan….hahaha….some fools here think pocking a runway will save Iran….the fuckers fly out of many countries….could someone point that out to Iran cause if they think just bombing the Apartheid State will save them…..Iran, gone. Next up, Russia.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 16 2025 13:43 utc | 134

Hitler’s plans for Germany’s self-destruction were not executed in full. A lot of nazis showed intent to survive. You can brainwash an entire group (think Jim Jones) but as soon as interests diverge even slightly, it’s hard.
Mark Lane (Levin) – faux civil rights activist – was the ‘deep state’ Jewish Supremacist point person for the Jonestown op. He goes back to FDR days (good friends and possible lover of Eleanor) and after he absconded with the $ from Jonestown he later infiltrated the US ‘Liberty’ circles because these folks would tend towards antiwar and America First positions from ‘the right’ and would surely be critical of all the ‘Israel’ love…and wary of 9/11 false flag events.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Mark_Lane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lane_(author)
Trotskyists are Ayn Randians are ‘neocons.’
‘Economic Libertarianm’ is led by the same psychos who lead the commies by the nose.
Too bad Ron Paul et al never figured this out. Probably why his son – next generation – is essentially worthless.
https://bollyn.com/
http://www.maskofzion.com/2010/09/911-israels-grand-deception.html
https://biblehub.com/topical/a/azaziah.htm

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 16 2025 13:44 utc | 136

@Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 13:39 utc | 127
In addition to the petrodollar the americans also sabotaged their own nuclear power plant in tune with Hollywoods China Syndrom two weeks before. And the obedient stooge Khomeini went along with the angloamerican malthusians and closed the nuclear power project first thing as he rose to power.
The development project the angoamericans wanted to prevent was very much connected to building that kind of power source to aid poorer countries to industrialise.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 16 2025 13:49 utc | 138

Yeah, Right (129).
Yes good point – I saw that their jet fuel plant suffered significant damage, so I guess that would make sense.
This is said to be that jet fuel plant, fully ablaze.
https://nitter.poast.org/MonitorX99800/status/1934588234446823880#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 13:51 utc | 140

Open Skies – Europe Stations USAF Tanker Fleet

MAKING NATO AND EUROPE COMPLICIT
Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Reg. 18-46049
Flight RCH024 Wichita to Germany Ramstein Air Base – home NATO Allied Air Command (AIRCOM).
“>https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/rch24#3ad168ae

Posted by: Oui | Jun 16 2025 13:58 utc | 142

When any country outside the West is attacked, it is left to the sharks.
If this continues the world will only ever know one Dharma:
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 12:44 utc | 85
That is the problem for the people fantasizing about a “global south” rising up as one to cast off the West, isn’t it? But it was always just white tankies dreaming of rescue from abroad. India is helping Israel, and Pakistan is not breaking out the nukes to defend Iran. Imagine relying on the dramatics of Pakistan for your defense!
Of course, one major result of Israeli nukes going off would be a sharp end to Jewish influence in many countries. A lot of Russian and American Jews would hurry back to their passport stops, but that wouldn’t make them more popular.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 16 2025 14:01 utc | 144

petergrfstrm | Jun 16 2025 13:49 utc | 138
I looked into it a quite a bit. Used rather than stooge I think.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 14:04 utc | 146

……am intimately familiar with KFOR.
Posted by: too scents….
Then you are also intimately familar with UNSCR 1244
🤣

Posted by: Exile | Jun 16 2025 14:07 utc | 148

Dan Kelly@1344
Waaay back in the 70’s/earliest 80’s I actually voted Libertarian. Somewhere along the line the “come to Jesus” moment hit me and realization dawned that although okay on most social issues; the “Tarians” just happened to be soft on corporatism and in general, the entire nexus of capitalism. Yes, even the redoubtable Ron Paul remained soft-headed on that score.
Ayn Rand was very much of a Pied Piper who managed to ensorcel a bevy of partial idealists, particularly in the Shady Eighties.

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 16 2025 14:11 utc | 150

UNSCR 1244
Posted by: Exile | Jun 16 2025 14:07 utc | 148
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My commitment said “Partnership for Peace” on the label.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 14:12 utc | 152

@michaelj72 somewhere upthread (forgive, bad eyesight, early morning, can’t spot your q atm)
re: “…Why not Intel?” I commented last year, either here or at TAE (both?), Intel was bleeding staff, exodus from Tel Aviv had begun. It still does stuff there, and a deserving target. I simply note it only hastens the demise.
@yanks in general re: 1500kg warhead – That’s roughly the same mass as a 1992 Ford F-150 4×4 pickup truck. 3750lbs GVWR, if I recall correctly.

Posted by: thomasjkenney | Jun 16 2025 14:14 utc | 154

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 16 2025 14:11 utc | 150
Correction: Ayn Rand was a narcissistic c***.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 16 2025 14:15 utc | 156

I love Thomas Sowell’s rejoinder in situations that look bad: “And then what happens?”
So, Iran threatens to build nukes. Meanwhile, the markets don’t know or care about escalation (500 points up, oil dropping). Does the US give permission for Israel to use nuclear weapons on Iran? As crazy radical as this sounds, how is this process derailed?

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 14:19 utc | 158

petergrfstrm
A rew thoughts – he british and French used divide and conquer to take the region from the Ottoman empire and carve it up. Those in the region are easily used with their petty conflicts.
This term – the shia cresent. The leaders that have emerged in just the last decades. To listen to them speak, secular and very worldly savy rather than living in the small and petty world of the region.
Many can only see black and white. I guess I also study the shades of grey.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 14:19 utc | 160

Yeah, Right | Jun 16 2025 13:32 utc | 120
When all that satellite imagery craze started begin of the millennium circa, there were detailed photos from Beijing, Moscow, but also London, NYC etc., but the area of Dharamsalah was blurred. Weird as there was zero indication that the Chinese wanted to bomb the Dulleye Lamer.

Posted by: aquadraht | Jun 16 2025 14:21 utc | 162

“Russia hopes Iranian-Israeli conflict will not impact SPIEF — Kremlin spokesman
Dmitry Peskov said that Russia would keep an eye on the development of the situation”
Gee, thanks Dmitiri.
Russia is a joke. Didn’t Putin grow up in a small cottage on a larger property…owned by Jews?
Get ’em when they’re young.
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Wilkerson should be in the stockades or before a firing squad for all his bloody lies. He said on one of those judge nap/nima cirucuit shows that he still lies for the Jewish Supremacists.
It was in fact Napolitano’s show when goldbug Andrew asked him something specific..he said he can’t say because he’s still under occupied US govt muzzle.
Well F you then Wilkie. You’re a waste of our time and, as I said, you ought to be before a firing squad.
Condi, Colin, and the Colonel.
https://archive.ph/k7kre#selection-4493.1-4509.73
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“one of those judge nap/nima cirucuit shows”
They can all go to hell.
https://youtu.be/ZQDxTVlQqVk?t=27

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 16 2025 14:33 utc | 164

ed4 94 – Is the IDF really using F4’s due to losses in the air and ground maintenance issues as has been speculated ?

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 14:34 utc | 166

Looking back, democrats were not that bad compared to Don Zion. If nuclear was still in place, ME could now be a quite peacefull place.
I dont believe at all US will make peace in Ukraine, its not in the interest of trump, he may pull off money but will continue other support.

Posted by: Lubomir | Jun 16 2025 14:36 utc | 168

1. Analysts say that Iran wins by continuing to survive.
2. This can be accomplished one of two ways:
(a) achieving de-escalation through restraint in response
(b) achieving decisive victory over Israel through aggressive response.
If (a), then US and Israel will not allow this. They will continue to push Iran to HAVE to escalate via their own bombing of civilians and their own increased aggression.
If (b), then Israel will (with US approval and coordination) use nuclear weapons against Iran.
So I don’t see how Iran can win.

Posted by: WJ | Jun 16 2025 14:37 utc | 170

Posted by: aristodemos | Jun 16 2025 14:14 utc | 155
ill spell out my logic
they have family in high idf ranks that know the true damage, and trust their family to not tell anyone but dont condemn using the information for a little edge.
its shaky, but meh. Nothing else going on for now….

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 14:38 utc | 172

Given the hangar queen status of western aviation, a good tactic might seem just to launch repeated smallish salvos of cheap Shahed drones, say once an hour. Western planes and pilots would quickly get exhausted and the Izzies would likewise tire of running to the shelters.
If they could muster the number of Shaheds that RF does of Gerans, a week long campaign could ground all of the collective wastes aviation, disarm all Iron Domes and give the Izzies a collective nervous breakdown.
Just thinking out loud…

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 14:43 utc | 174

Another slat on things here from Indian Diplomat
https://www.indianpunchline.com/middle-east-in-crisis-1/
https://www.indianpunchline.com/middle-east-in-crisis-2/
” . . . the rise of Iran is inevitable — with a population base 10 times bigger than Israel’s, vast mineral resources, a self-sufficient agricultural sector and broad-based industry, innovative progress in technology, big domestic market, highly strategic location and trained manpower.
Iran’s stamina is of a long distance runner, as Iran-Iraq war showed, whereas, Israel’s forte is as sprinter on a 100 metre track. Make no mistake, Israel, a small country with a population of 8 million people will get hollowed out in a protracted war. ”

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 16 2025 14:44 utc | 176

If (b), then Israel will (with US approval and coordination) use nuclear weapons against Iran.
So I don’t see how Iran can win.
Posted by: WJ | Jun 16 2025 14:37 utc | 170
I keep seeing this argument:
Iran cant win, because they cant attack hard anough to destroy Israel without getting noted by Israel, einer via Samson or USA.
This assumes Russia and China and rest of world would just let that happen…
…as well as that Israel has nukes.
maybe that’s what all that documentation on Israels nuke program told Iran…how they pulled off a big bluff.
But, win if they do have nukes, doesn’t mean they can use them, either threat of Russian retaliation, or Russian shoot down, or Israe I might not have enough to actually destroy Iran anyway.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 14:49 utc | 178

Alon Mizrahi’s counterargument against the Samson option is that they’d be too cowardly to use it.

Posted by: Afro | Jun 16 2025 14:51 utc | 180

If (a), then US and Israel will not allow this. They will continue to push Iran to HAVE to escalate via their own bombing of civilians and their own increased aggression.
If (b), then Israel will (with US approval and coordination) use nuclear weapons against Iran.
So I don’t see how Iran can win.
Posted by: WJ | Jun 16 2025 14:37 utc | 170
a) Depends on israel’s pain threshold. At some point, the damage inflicted by Iran will lead to a collapse.
The West must then make a call on whether they want to lose their aircraft carrier in the middle east or make Netanyahu stand down.
b) The risks of nuking a country so close to Russia are high. While Iran will suffer, the entire geopolitical order will change: a geopolitical pole shift the consequences of which will be totally out of the west’s control.
The UN would have failed it’s primary reason for existing.
Moreover, there’s no guarantee nuking Iran once will yield the results they want. Nuking it multiple times will impact the entire region and risk retaliatory strike from Russia if Russia believes it’s the target.
If Iran recovers quickly and retaliates with a nuclear strike of its own – it’s goodbye world.
For this reason the “superpowers” had better be working diligently behind the scenes to either make sure neither israel nor Iran uses nukes.
Hence: b) may not even be on the menu.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 14:56 utc | 182

Given the hangar queen status of western aviation, a good tactic might seem just to launch repeated smallish salvos of cheap Shahed drones, say once an hour. Western planes and pilots would quickly get exhausted and the Izzies would likewise tire of running to the shelters.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 14:43 utc | 174
That’s exactly what they’ve been doing from the first salvo of ~200 drones.
A trick they tested in True Promise I.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 15:02 utc | 184

You’re deeply mistaken in thinking that either China or Russia will respond to a nuclear strike against Iran. They won’t–and the U.S. knows they won’t–because that would mean Armageddon. Neither will become directly involved militarily.
Posted by: WJ | Jun 16 2025 14:53 utc | 181
will U.S.A. become directly involved?
how for do we branch down hypotheticals and estimates before we admit we can not be absolutely sure of outcome?
Plus, they don’t have to nike, they can just threaten, or, maybe best korea kim can let Iran “borrow a couple dozen ”

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 15:05 utc | 186

Iran issues an evacuation order for a large area in Tel Aviv: ‘We will soon take action — being in the presence of military and security sites puts your life at risk’
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20077

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 15:07 utc | 188

Iran is preparing to deliver a “very large strike” against Israel, according to a report from Iran’s Fars News Agency.
DDGeopolitics

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 15:09 utc | 190

Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 14:56 utc | 182–
Do recall that Pakistan vowed to nuke the Zionists if they nuked Iran. It’s Pakistan, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Turkmenistan, Georgia, and potentially Turkey who would suffer fallout from any Zionist nuke attack, as well as all other regional Gulf states depending on which way the winds are blowing at the time and after.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2025 15:11 utc | 192

@ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 14:43 utc | 174

Given the hangar queen status of western aviation, a good tactic might seem just to launch repeated smallish salvos of cheap Shahed drones, say once an hour. Western planes and pilots would quickly get exhausted and the Izzies would likewise tire of running to the shelters.

Indeed, make the F35s take down cheap drones until maintenance requirements remove them (the F35s) from the ‘theater’. At the same time lob a few missiles every 3 hours or so into Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. Don’t let them sleep. When they are properly exhausted, bring out the big guns.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 15:13 utc | 194

Do recall that Pakistan vowed to nuke the Zionists if they nuked Iran.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 16 2025 15:11 utc | 192
who said that, and when?

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 15:14 utc | 196

djia seems unconcerned. Up 1%. Leads me to believe real damage done to Israel relatively light.
Posted by: UWDude | Jun 16 2025 13:59 utc | 143
It’s been heavily manipulated at least since 2008. Certain hedge funds can make it move all by themselves. Gravity still kicks in eventually. I’d give it a day or two.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Jun 16 2025 15:16 utc | 198

Funny how brave zionist warrior Netanyahu got himself safely to Greece before the shooting even started. Such inspirational leadership.

Posted by: Fred777 | Jun 16 2025 15:18 utc | 200