Tic-Toc Thread On The War On Iran - 2
Machine translated from Hebrew:
Yossi Melman @yossi_melman - 5:50 UTC · Jun 15, 2025The euphoria was brief. On Friday morning, I asked if it was even necessary to start a war with the Iranians. Shiites are historically willing to suffer. I mentioned their willingness to sacrifice as demonstrated in the 8 years of attrition with Iraq. I recommend that we cut our losses. Ask Trump to stop the scramble for a reasonable agreement. Otherwise, we'll end up begging for a cease-fire and Iran will refuse.
Yossi Melman @yossi_melman - 6:22 UTC · Jun 16, 2025...There is no one to stop the madness. Ariel Kahana, political commentator for Israel Hayom, writes about Israel's response plan to attack population centers: The IDF will announce in the coming hours an evacuation order for neighborhoods in Tehran. After that, the air force will bring down buildings, similar to what Israel did in Beirut.
Posted by b on June 16, 2025 at 10:13 UTC | Permalink
next page »Israel can't do to Tehran what was done to Beirut without significant inside infiltration. This will be a test of Iranian society and solidarity.And a chance to root out some traitors.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:18 utc | 2
Tel Aviv's civilian shelters are not true military grade bunkers.
God forbid the Iranians decide to retaliate by simply striking those shelters.
Of course, this is only if the israelis start getting serious about killing Iranian civilians ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 10:22 utc | 3
Israel can't do to Tehran what was done to Beirut without ...
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:18 utc | 2
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Certainly not while the Markets are open.
What is needed for Western success is a long Bank Holiday.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 10:22 utc | 4
Of course, this is only if the israelis start getting serious about killing Iranian civilians ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 10:22 utc | 3
How many does it take, Arch? They've already been targeting Iranian civilians for a decade or more and we don't even need to discuss Gaza or the West Bank, Lebanon or Syria. That's their literal MO. Iran needs to take out Israeli civilian-governmental hubs.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:25 utc | 5
I was aware of Melman's first message, and it made sense as it was in line with a recent article Haatetz wrote, along similar lines.
I was NOT aware, tho, of Melman's second message (6/16). What he describes is a very terrifying thought. It's straight crimes against humanity in line with the process ongoing in Gaza.
Understand why: at the current moment israel has fallen behind in this thus-far short war. They took the initiative, struck first, tried to perform a quick knockout punch but it didn't happen. Iran recovered and now more missiles make contact than are intercepted. The golden dome is waning (by numerous and varied sources online). The Khazar is now losing and can't get out of this situation. They're asking Uncle Sam for help, as well as other nations to help defend it.
So naturally the Khazar will revert to causing human casualties in hopes of sueing for peace.
Iran shouldn't cave. Keep hitting them. Only stop when they agree to a Two State solution!
Posted by: Trew | Jun 16 2025 10:26 utc | 6
Darn I missed new thread while writing on old one - I’ll post it again!
It’s busy on the ignored media’s.
Massive joy across West Asia and North Africa, Sahel and even subsahara - at the taste of justice and liberation from the yoke of centuries of exploitation.
Al I can see is the shapeshifters and their GreatShit in Chief - NuttyYahoo daily getting more exposed by the decades of words and deeds.
The incantations and wishful plans to devour the Persian Jewel in the Crown of EurAsian cradles of civilisation.
The Chinese are ready. The US plane fleet is flying across the Atlantic - unlikely it will return wholly… the Russian Federation is also ready to undo the damage that Stalin inadvertently did in allowing the construction of the illegal apartheid entity.
That consolation to the fascist imperialist Bankers for having failed to destroy and take Russia and China with their proxy Hitlerites and fellow fascists. That pustule from which the deluded supremacist settler colonialists are the excuse for expansion across EurAsia and Africa. (That last is where the preparations are being made to breed a bunch of African mercenaries to raid their own ancestral lands now iin the West)
TheAnglo American Oil Giant lost their control on Persia even as they maintained it across the various fake emirates, with fake sheiks, slave breeding desert tribals elevated to oil rich oligarchs as fronts for Zio Fascist AngloEuropean world domination.
The fake kingdoms, their mirage cities and airline hubs and limitless (so far) air conditioning - doomed to collapse like a house of cards always does - is held together by a pearl necklace of special forces, and the U.K. and US armed forces DIRECTLY.
Their civil fascist dictatorships enforced by western police and mystery intelligence operatives.
Justice awaits those Pirates And Great Gamers and their Private Military Armies.
Which ever way these pearls are scattered by their clutching by our Wasters - they will never be allowed to girdle the throats of the ancient human civilisations again.
That high water mark already receding is the destiny of the Shapeshifters and liberation from slavery. Physical and MENTAL.
Now the fate of how soon and how painful it will be resides with JUST two Peoples.
Turks and Subcontinentals - the oldest imperial conquests.
I’ll exclude Japan - purely out of its demographics- I doubt it can muster a million man foots on the ground delusional fascists any more. They are not breeding enough!
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 16 2025 10:27 utc | 7
The Zions have to have parts of Iran for their great Israel and they will do everything to get it, because if not yet, then at no times.
They must get in US to do so.
Perhaps it might be a dirty deal with Putin. They get Iran, Russia gets 404. Can be that simple.
Posted by: ableman | Jun 16 2025 10:27 utc | 8
Iran needs to take out Israeli civilian-governmental hubs.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:25 utc | 5
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One failed bond auction and Zionism as we have know it is over.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 10:28 utc | 9
In the past five days, Israel 🇮🇱 has:
• Started a war with Iran 🇮🇷
• Massacred starving Gazans waiting for food 🇵🇸
• Bombed Lebanon 🇱🇧
• Bombed Syria 🇸🇾
• Carried out a naval attack on the port of Hodeidah, Yemen 🇾🇪
• Kidnapped Greta Thunberg 🇸🇪🇪🇺
With tacit or vocal support from the US and the West
To follow the path of the mystic, Mandela, Gandhi, Luther King, Thich Nhat Hanh and the traditions, cf. 'The tears of Things', as is well known, involves daring to look into reality - and then transforming indignation and justified anger into an insistence on breaking the cycle of violence.
The spiritual, the political and the concrete cannot of course be separated as in the great traditions - where people connect with something greater than themselves, in complete contrast to the nihilism and postmodernism of the West
Posted by: Kim | Jun 16 2025 10:28 utc | 10
Key Points from Dmitry Peskov’s Statements:
➡️Russia remains ready to act as a mediator if needed in resolving the Iran–Israel conflict.➡️Moscow’s offer to store Iranian uranium in Russia “is still on the table,” but the outbreak of hostilities has complicated matters.
➡️The Kremlin notes a strong consolidation of Iranian society in response to Israeli bombings.
➡️Russia is prepared to do whatever is necessary to address the root causes of the crisis in the Middle East.
➡️Moscow is in contact with both Iran and Israel and urges all sides to avoid actions that could endanger Russian citizens.
➡️Russia condemns provocations that have led to the dangerous escalation in the region.
➡️The Kremlin has taken note of Netanyahu’s statement suggesting Israeli attacks could lead to regime change in Iran.
➡️Russia–China cooperation is not aimed against any third countries.
➡️Moscow has no concerns about China’s engagement in Central Asia undermining its own ties with the region.
➡️Central Asian countries are natural and historic allies of Russia.
➡️Putin will hold an international phone call on June 16.
DDGeopolitics
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 10:28 utc | 11
How many does it take, Arch?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:25 utc | 5
God damnit, Tom. What do you take me for?
An eye for an eye kind of guy?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 10:29 utc | 12
It is somewhat further to Tehran over enemy territory, than for Israel to travel to Beirut or adjoined Gaza.
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 10:30 utc | 13
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 10:29 utc | 12
A nostril slash ("Chinatown") or the tip of an ear for an eye?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:32 utc | 14
Antiwar.com is reporting that the U.S. is poised to attack Iran:
https://news.antiwar.com/2025/06/15/sources-us-will-enter-israels-war-with-iran/
Sources: US Will Enter Israel’s War With Iran
Call the White House and tell them you do not want any part of this disastrous war
by Dave DeCamp | Jun 15, 2025
Sources familiar with the matter have told Antiwar.com Editorial Director Scott Horton that the Trump administration is poised to enter Israel’s aggressive war against Iran directly. US airstrikes on Iran could begin as soon as Monday...
Posted by: Edward Q | Jun 16 2025 10:33 utc | 15
Posted by: ableman | Jun 16 2025 10:27 utc | 8
Russia won't agree dumbly to that deal, it would be shooting itself in the foot. They have been given a gift with their taking of Ukraine now that the world media, NATO and the US, are focussed on the Zionists. Zelensky even said today that he thought Ukraine would lose Odessa. He's the loneliest man in the world at the moment.
Posted by: George | Jun 16 2025 10:36 utc | 16
IDF targets military as Iran targets civilians
I can't believe the U.S. MSM is trotting out these nonsensical talking points from Israel.
Day 1: Israel bombs apartment buildings in Iran to assassinate leaders, killing 80 civilians. Iran responds by bombing IDF Defense HQ in Tel Aviv.
Israel is already attacking Iranian oil infrastructure and now Iran is targeting the port city of Haifa.
I hate this unnecessary war. Our MSM is prolonging the war.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 16 2025 10:37 utc | 17
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 16 2025 10:37 utc | 17
That's straight from Bari Weiss and "The Free Press" over the weekend. I guess the MSM including Drudge and MSM have picked it up.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:40 utc | 18
Something that has been ignored in recent days is the real possibility that Iran will use its nuclear weapons. They are the only means to of defeat Iran in any way. Israel is now desperate enough that it would do anything to appear victorious and preserve its illusion of invincibility.
Posted by: Brendan | Jun 16 2025 10:40 utc | 19
Seems to me that the US / UK will use the 3 aircraft carriers from the Indian Ocean for F-35s. Bombers out of Diego Garcia. Not sure where the tankers will be based, likely not an Arab base. This makes it a two front for Iran, and gives a clear run for US/UK attacks.
What will happen with the US bases in Arab countries? Will they be evacuated?
Seems like the perfect opportunity for Russia to get back at the UK with some naval drones by proxy.
Are there no commercial satellite photography providers from Russia or China? Yuzmash has been a mystery for too long.
Posted by: Rahul | Jun 16 2025 10:44 utc | 20
IDF airfields
I do not have a map of Iranian strikes but how many attacks on IDF airfields? I would think that prolonged strikes on those targets would ground the IAF but I'm not a military guy. Are the airfields too dispersed?
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 16 2025 10:46 utc | 21
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 16 2025 10:46 utc | 21
Cyprus hence the massive movement of in-air stratotankers to the region. Maybe Diego Garcia too but that's for NATO jets.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:49 utc | 22
Seems to me that the US / UK will use the 3 aircraft carriers from the Indian Ocean for F-35s. Bombers out of Diego Garcia.
Posted by: Rahul | Jun 16 2025 10:44 utc | 20
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As I said in another thread, Modi is about to be squoze.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 10:50 utc | 23
Only stop when they agree to a Two State solution!
Posted by: Trew | Jun 16 2025 10:26 utc | 6
Personally I would like to see either a single state solution, in which he majority Palestinians hold power, or better, Israel as a UN protectorate, with a UN appointed care-taker govt to restore Israel to the rue of law.
Posted by: Tim Glover | Jun 16 2025 10:51 utc | 24
Massive lies and copium drawing in all "foes" has begun.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:53 utc | 25
Israel as a UN protectorate
Posted by: Tim Glover | Jun 16 2025 10:51 utc | 24
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Like Kosovo? Bad idea!
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 10:53 utc | 26
In October after the last round of tit-for-tat calmed down; Teheran MFA posted this cryptic message (from memory):
3 power plants2 refineries
1 airport
The tally so far after 3 days:
(3) Power Plants
Hadera 2.56GW✅
Ashkelon 2.25GW
Mt. Carmel (Haifa) 1.02GW✅
(2) Refineries
Haifa ✅
Ashdod ✅
(1) Airport
Lod (Ben Gurion) - abandoned
Note: its impossible to determine with certainty if the power plants have been knocked out of action. Big Power Plants are robust and numerous tutrbine-gen trains. TBD. On the other hand, Refineries are fragile. TBD
Posted by: Exile | Jun 16 2025 10:55 utc | 27
Those 3 power plants represent ~60% of Israel’s power generation capacity.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 16 2025 10:57 utc | 28
As I said in another thread, Modi is about to be squoze.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 10:50 utc | 23
Can you please elaborate. Thanks
"....The IDF will announce in the coming hours an evacuation order for neighborhoods in Tehran. After that, the air force will bring down buildings, similar to what Israel did in Beirut."
time will tell.
And then Iran will send perhaps many dozens or more of its hypersonic/supersonic/ballistic missiles with 500, 1,000 or 2,000 pound warheads into tel aviv and/or israel's oil & gas infrastructure, or its power plants/electrical grid, etc etc
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see the 47-second video at the first link
see the 20-second video at the third link
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1934463713852973332
Patarames @Pataramesh
No, there are no 🇮🇱 F-35 hunting down 🇮🇷 missile launchers
No, 🇮🇷 missile strikes won't get less intensive
No, 🇮🇱 missile defenses won't remain active like this for much longer
➡️ That is where the psychological effects on Israel will kick in dramatically
(Bookmark this tweet)
https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1934483481285046704
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️ ⭕️Israeli Enemy Army Minister Israel Katz:
"The residents of Tehran will pay the price soon."
https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status/1934529917942661449
Warfare Analysis @warfareanalysis
Bnei Brak in Tel Aviv this morning…
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 11:01 utc | 30
Tom_Q_Collins @14: "A nostril slash ("Chinatown") or the tip of an ear for an eye?"
No equity in that. Eyes are much more valuable. Even if you take the entire nose and both ears, it is still just cosmetic damage. Gotta go for something functional.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 16 2025 11:04 utc | 31
It looks though that the Zionist project is finished whatever happens in the coming days or weeks.
Israel was touted to be a safe haven for Jews (and only jews)in a world awash with antisemitism. It's entire existence and future expansion relies on lots and lots of Jews wanting to live there.
Nuttinyahoo has screwed that illusion. Most of the Ashkenazi Jews are dual passport holders who will be on the first flight they can get .
Posted by: Sir Reginald | Jun 16 2025 11:05 utc | 32
Re: The Day After ?
The Japanese Post-WWII model might be best:
1) some sort of re-education program of society from top-to-bottom, genocide museums and education.
2) extensive war crimes trials including complicit foreigners
3) neutral party (China ?, Zaire ?, Mogolia? )military occupation for 20-30 years
4) reparations for damages, restitution of property etc. This includes complicit foreigners. (UNR194)
5) UNR181 borders.
6) legal system and constitution drawn up by occupying power ( a la MacArthur in Japan)
Posted by: Exile | Jun 16 2025 11:06 utc | 33
Can you please elaborate. Thanks
Posted by: Michael J | Jun 16 2025 10:59 utc | 29
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Modi rules a fractious state, surrounded by neighbors he seeks to appease. Kashmir is splintering. Sri Lanka is in turmoil. All of the West's growth presses up against India's ambitions.
Now Modi will be forced to deny favors to old partners.
India finds itself in a fickle situation where power centers are increasingly asserting themselves.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 11:09 utc | 34
What’s with all the begging and bargaining all of a sudden about the mythical two states?
Fuck right off. That went down with BambiBlairs Road Map Lie … oh did the ziofascist laugh all the way to the bank with that story…
Let me tell you a real story. The defeat of a fake champion by a real human champion.
Persia is Ali.
I stand with Persia.
Ancient Persians are no ordinary mortals that are to be subdued by the Fearsome Fascist Gollum of The West.
“Ali was no ordinary mortal. On a mission, he believed from God himself, Ali withstood Foreman's offense. Instead of wilting before the storm, like a great sequoia Ali bent, leaning back into the loose ring ropes, avoiding the worst of Foreman's fury, gritting his teeth and bearing that which he could not dodge. “
Iran can’t dodge the blows.
Russia couldn’t in the trap of Ukraine.
Syria was logically abandoned as the centre ring, where the blows would tear apart Iran (and to an extent the RF).
Now the monsterous, enraged, shapeshifter battle bot is sucked into that centre to deliver its deadly blows from there to the Persians and EurAsian ‘ring’.
What happens now is what happened in Ukropia and has led to the collapse of that narrative and Nazionist Greatest War - Giant Natzo v illustrious Old Champion AntiFascist RF.
Their foaming little green goblin Gollum Champion crying, as it vanishes into insignificant history as the killer of a million of his citizens and 10 million others exodus.
The Illegal Apartheid Entity, Donny the Trouser-less, Eurocraps, all their makers and backers, their combined might of weapons and technology threatening to kill every single mf-ing Persian!!!
Foaming at the mouth, dead eyed, mental retarded killing machine,destroying men women and children as directed by their button pushing Masters…let’s call them collectively ‘George’.
"What I remember most about the fight was, I went out and hit Muhammad with the hardest shot to the body I ever delivered to any opponent,"
“Anybody else in the world would have crumbled. Muhammad cringed; I could see it hurt. And then he looked at me. He had that look in his eyes, like he was saying 'I'm not going to let you hurt me.'"
"Is that all you got, George?"
KO coming.
End of the fake ziofascIst imperial colony and its 9 millions back to where they originated - if their original neighbours could risk having such blood soaked monsters safely?
(Read about it here https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1919959-muhammad-alis-greatest-fight-george-foreman-and-the-rumble-in-the-jungle )
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 16 2025 11:13 utc | 35
What I do not understand - why do the Iranians not attack the Western financial system? There are for example billions buried in chip factories like INTEL. Wouldn't the markets crash if they were just gone?
I cannot imagine that they can be repaired easily.
Posted by: oldfart | Jun 16 2025 11:16 utc | 36
Wartime Cafe with Laith Marouf, Ep 28: 'Will China & Russia Aid Iran vs Israel?'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6euXK-_qec
"Laith meets with Dr Tim Anderson, Director for Counter-Hegemonic Studies...'
Both come highly recommended by me.
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 16 2025 11:17 utc | 37
"Certainly not while the Markets are open.
What is needed for Western success is a long Bank Holiday."
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 10:22 utc | 4
100% right on-mirrors what happened in July 1914:
Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 11:18 utc | 38
Israel must strike “all Iranian power plants, every oil well, gas field, fuel storage facility, and seaports and airports,” Yisrael Beytenu party chief Avigdor Liberman says during a visit to Rehovot, where Iranian missiles caused damage to the campus of the Weizmann Institute of Science.“We are paying a very heavy price. The Iranians are attacking population centers and civilian infrastructure. This is a total war,” the hawkish former defense minister says, arguing that Israel “must not stop halfway.”
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 11:21 utc | 39
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 16 2025 10:46 utc | 21
Cyprus hence the massive movement of in-air stratotankers to the region. Maybe Diego Garcia too but that's for NATO jets.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 10:49 utc | 22
During the 3rd Crusade (1189-1192) Richard I (named the Lion-hearted) used Cyprus as a staging island for his army.
800 some years later the same tactics are employed.
Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 11:23 utc | 40
If US is moving a large number of tankers eastward, one has to wonder what has happened to the Izzies own tanker fleet.
Is the absence of F-35s over Iran due to the fact they can no longer be refuelled or because they are all in the hangars for a week because of all the flight time they have clocked up?
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 11:23 utc | 41
If US is moving a large number of tankers eastward, one has to wonder what has happened to the Izzies own tanker fleet.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 11:23 utc | 41
They never really had a tanker fleet.
They were always reliant on the Americans for that.
That's partly why this attack came as such a surprise: Nobody really thought the Americans would so willingly and generously make their tankers available at this time ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 11:26 utc | 42
# Almost 10 Million people in Tehran ...
# IDF to issue Tehran evacuation notices
"Following these notices, the Israeli Air Force will demolish buildings using methods similar to Israel's Beirut operations," Israel announced.
by Ariel Kahana Published on 06-16-2025 11:00 Last modified: 06-16-2025 12:12
Defense Minister Israel Katz reinforced these plans this morning, stating, "Tehran's boastful dictator has transformed into a cowardly murderer, deliberately targeting Israeli civilian areas to discourage IDF operations that are dismantling his military capabilities. Tehran's residents will face consequences soon."
Notably, Israel has not yet targeted the Fordow facility, Iran's second-most critical and heavily fortified uranium enrichment installation, positioned 12.4 miles northeast of Qom, the sacred Shiite Islamic city, embedded deep within mountainous terrain. While Natanz remains Iran's primary and widely recognized enrichment site, Fordow operates as a smaller yet significantly more protected facility, constructed 260-295 feet (80-90 meters) underground, rendering it virtually immune to standard aerial bombardment.
(waiting for the US on Fordow one assumes with MOABs)
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/06/16/idf-to-issue-tehran-evacuation-notices/
# Fascism, in whatever form, has to be fought.
# The Islamic Republic of Iran has the right to defend itself.
# Looks like we are in for another long night ...
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 16 2025 11:32 utc | 43
Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 11:18 utc | 38
Wow, I didn't know that. Good read and nice to know there was a happy ending:
Although the stock exchange itself did not reopen until 4 January 1915, securities trading for cash resumed in the City quite quickly. Britain's economy had made the transition from peace to war.
..for the banks at lest, not so much for the Empire.
That was bankrupt by 1916 and sustained by US war loans. Though notionally it expanded, the running costs were exceeding revenues and it slowly bled out over the next 50 years until all that was left were the war debts.
A salutory tale...perhaps.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 11:33 utc | 44
CrossTalk Bullhorns: A World of War
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/619355-us-iran-israel-war/
"Israel and its patron the United States finally have their war on Iran. A decades-long project in the making is now in play. The Trump administration has toyed with the idea of multipolarity, but the real aim is the maintenance of hegemony. In this sense, the Ukraine conflict and the war on Iran are different parts of the same agenda.
CrossTalking with George Szamuely and Mark Sleboda"
RT News - June 16 2025 (09:00 msk)
https://www.rt.com/shows/news/619357-june-16-09msk/
"Iran and Israel exchange yet another round of missile strikes. Tehran reportedly hit an Israeli power plant, while the IDF claims to have destroyed numerous arms production sites. Israel shifts rhetoric from never wanting Iran to get its hands on nukes, for the need for regime change in the country, with Prime Minister Netanyahu, alluding to an assassination plot against the supreme leader. A secret Mossad drone workshop is discovered and dismantled on the outskirts of Tehran. Local police seize hundreds of kilograms of homemade explosives as well as dozens of launchers and parts for making the deadly devices."
Israel & Iran Clash For Third Day as Death Toll Mounts: LIVE UPDATES
https://www.rt.com/news/619058-israel-strikes-iran-updates/
"09:48 GMT: Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz has issued a statement clarifying his earlier comment that 'residents of Tehran will pay the price for Iran's retaliation strikes across Israel.' 'There is no intention to physically harm the residents of Tehran,' Katz claimed..."
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 16 2025 11:35 utc | 45
Well, I heard Wilkerson with Nima a while back boasting how he and Colin-Powell had made sure that Israel was 'tankered-up' so that they could strike across the Middle East with impunity and without bothering Uncle Sam for physical support.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 11:36 utc | 46
India finds itself in a fickle situation where power centers are increasingly asserting themselves.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 11:09 utc | 34
Thanks. India and China coexist thousands of years peacefully. British legacy root of current problems.No reason why China and India can't do it again. What a formidable force it would be. India, China, Russia. Hopefully it will happen after economic power shift to East next couple of years.
There are people here who believes the USraeli bullshits that Iran has or will have nuclear weapons despite years of official Iranian pronouncement that they renounce nuclear weapons as evil that they will not commit to. Even IAEA when they were honest declared Iran stopped their nuclear weapons program decades ago.
Posted by: Surferket | Jun 16 2025 11:39 utc | 48
An Israeli military spokesperson has said Israel has “achieved aerial superiority over Iran”. (Guardian citing AFP).
Do we believe him? I don't, not for the moment. we'll see. Of course the reverse is also true. Iran has achieved missile superiority over Israel. According to the videos few are getting knocked down, at least those that get to the target and appear in videos.
Posted by: laguerre | Jun 16 2025 11:40 utc | 49
"09:48 GMT: Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz has issued a statement clarifying his earlier comment that 'residents of Tehran will pay the price for Iran's retaliation strikes across Israel.' 'There is no intention to physically harm the residents of Tehran,' Katz claimed..."
there are enough reports/footage already about israel "not harming" civilians. why is this nazi lying?
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 16 2025 11:40 utc | 50
Modern day Israelis aren't Hebrews... Palestinians are. Period. Two millions of Ukrainians are currently masquerading as true Jewish people in Israel for the sake of government benefits...
https://ohpi.org.au/not-the-real-jews-denying-jews-their-jewishness/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23241444/
Posted by: Alex Vadim | Jun 16 2025 11:46 utc | 51
see the 52-sedond video at the first link
see the 2:39 video at the second link
see the 21-second video at the third/fourth link
the Party is over, israel, you muther-fockers
https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1934493108508443093
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️ 🇮🇷 Iranian Tasnim Agency: Footage of the moment new missile barrages were launched toward Zionist positions
https://x.com/MayadeenEnglish/status/1934379665399173337
Al Mayadeen English @MayadeenEnglish
Dr. Mohammad Marandi, professor at #Tehran University, speaks to #AlMayadeen about Western hypocrisy, US imperial arrogance, and the reality of the Israeli aggression.
Marandi firmly rejects the narrative that Iran "harassed" the Israeli regime, reminding viewers that it was "Israel" that first bombed #Iran’s diplomatic compound in #Damascus, killing Iranian officials and guests.
He also denounces the #UnitedStates’ attempts to impose deadlines and dictate terms to sovereign nations.
@s_m_marandi
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https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1934449210637562319
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
Party’s over
https://x.com/SweeneySteve/status/1839934447686226201
Steve Sweeney @SweeneySteve
A Tel Aviv pub celebrates the flattening of 6 apartment blocks in Beirut. The sign of a sick and depraved society.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 16 2025 11:50 utc | 52
Israel is now desperate enough that it would do anything to appear victorious and preserve its illusion of invincibility.
Posted by: Brendan | Jun 16 2025 10:40 utc | 19
Dont forget Israel's 'Samson Option' - basically: if it looks like we're going to lose, we'll take everyone else with us. They'd rather destroy the world than face total defeat.
Are they collectively insane enough to do that ? Does anyone think they aren't ?
Posted by: Red Star | Jun 16 2025 11:51 utc | 53
Israel raids its own prison cells to punish inmates who celebrated Iranian missiles hitting Israel.
This is how sane people winning behave, isn't it?
Posted by: kspr | Jun 16 2025 11:51 utc | 54
Posted by: laguerre | Jun 16 2025 11:40 utc | 49
This is MSM on steroid.
Today in tv they stated that the intercept rate of Israel AD is 90/95%.
Other gems are that Iranians are targeting only civilians while idf is hitting only military targets.
Ayatollah is alone and hiding in a bunker while relevant pasdaran has already fled the country, no mention that bibi himself hide in a bunker, and possibly feed the country at least for some time.
Posted by: Mario | Jun 16 2025 11:52 utc | 55
Posted by: Red Star | Jun 16 2025 11:51 utc | 53I think that. Some individuals would do anything, no question about that. If they'll be able to is not clear however. There's usually a lot of people who have something better to do, even if their system lost.Are they collectively insane enough to do that ? Does anyone think they aren't ?
Hitler's plans for Germany's self-destruction were not executed in full. A lot of nazis showed intent to survive. You can brainwash an entire group (think Jim Jones) but as soon as interests diverge even slightly, it's hard.
On top of that, even if Likud/Netanyahu were to Samson their world, it's not clear that the sponsors agree. I believe they don't, i.e. US would prevent Israel's nuclear option, if need be, with secret service methods.
Posted by: Konami | Jun 16 2025 11:56 utc | 56
Timeline of: 'IDF targets military / Iran targets civilians'
6/13/25:
IDF bombs apartment buildings in Tehran
Killing 20 military (and nuclear engineers), and 60 civilians
6/13/25:
Iranian missiles Hit IDF HQ in Tel Aviv
6/14/25:
IDF bombs Iranian gas field used for domestic energy (economic target).
6/16/20
Iranian missiles strike port city of Haifa (economic target)
The talking point that the IDF exclusively targets the military while Iran exclusively targets civilians is complete nonsense.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 16 2025 11:59 utc | 57
https://x.com/EYakoby/status/1934447753217847788?t=20k_LvlPnniWTOxO-s-LmQ&s=19
Had to post this . It's the peak psychosis from zionists
"It continues to amaze me how Israel's enemies are openly genocidal, while simultaneously playing the victim."
Posted by: Hankster | Jun 16 2025 12:00 utc | 58
why is this nazi lying?
Posted by: Justpassinby
They are incapable of telling the truth. They can only lie, lie, lie.
"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
--Jesus
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 12:00 utc | 59
Dont forget Israel's 'Samson Option'
Posted by: Red Star | Jun 16 2025 11:51 utc | 53
Posted by: Konami | Jun 16 2025 11:56 utc | 56
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The initiators for Israel's Pu bombs have a half life of ~120 days. Maintaining initiators for their full arsenal is probably beyond their capacity. But maybe they are getting their neutron sources from their Uncle?
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 12:02 utc | 60
"Sources familiar with the matter have told Antiwar.com Editorial Director Scott Horton that the Trump administration is poised to enter Israel’s aggressive war against Iran directly. US airstrikes on Iran could begin as soon as Monday..."
Sure, now that there is air supremacy the US invites itself to play "Let's bomb the brown folks" What heroism.
Posted by: Migmaw | Jun 16 2025 12:03 utc | 61
"Hitler's plans for Germany's self-destruction were not executed in full."
Posted by: Konami
Some historians say that after the war, Albert Speer exaggerated Hitler's alleged "scorched earth" plans in order to put himself in a better light.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 12:05 utc | 62
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 10:53 utc | 26
kosovo is not a UN protectorate - it is not recognised by the UN
Posted by: Tim | Jun 16 2025 12:05 utc | 63
There's no air superiority. That's why White Empire is on the way.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 12:05 utc | 64
London, IRNA– Eleven member states of the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.) Board of Governors (one third of the Board members, JB) have issued a joint statement condemning the Israeli regime’s military attack on Iran’s peaceful nuclear facilities and urged immediate action by the United Nations nuclear watchdog and the Security Council to prevent such aggression.
The statement was issued by Russia, China, Pakistan, Iraq, Belarus, Burkina Faso, Cuba, Indonesia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Iran.
The members of the I.A.E.A. Board of Governors condemned Israel’s aggression against Iran, including its military attacks on nuclear facilities under I.A.E.A. safeguards, calling them a flagrant violation of international law, the U.N. Charter, and the Statute of the I.A.E.A.
The statement emphasized that these military attacks not only threaten international peace and security but also undermine confidence in the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (N.P.T.), constitute a blatant disregard for the I.A.E.A. safeguards system, and jeopardize the advancement of peaceful nuclear energy.
The signatories also stressed that any armed attack or threat against nuclear facilities dedicated to peaceful purposes constitutes a violation of the principles of the U.N. Charter, international law, and the Statute of the I.A.E.A.
They called on the Israeli regime to immediately cease its military aggression against Iran and urged the Board of Governors, the Secretariat, and the I.A.E.A. director general to take the necessary measures to prevent such attacks from happening again.
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IAEA Board Members for 2024–2025
The 35 Board Members for 2024-2025 are Algeria, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Bangladesh, Belgium, Brazil, Burkina Faso, Canada, China, Colombia, Ecuador, Egypt, France, Georgia, Germany, Ghana, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, the Republic of Korea, Luxembourg, Morocco, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, Pakistan, Paraguay, the Russian Federation, South Africa, Spain, Thailand, Ukraine, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the United States of America and the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.
Posted by: JB | Jun 16 2025 12:07 utc | 65
kosovo is not a UN protectorate - it is not recognised by the UN
Posted by: Tim | Jun 16 2025 12:05 utc | 63
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Interim_Administration_Mission_in_Kosovo
I am intimately familiar with KFOR.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 12:08 utc | 66
Key Points from Dmitry Peskov’s Statements:
➡️Russia remains ready to act as a mediator if needed in resolving the Iran–Israel conflict.
➡️Moscow’s offer to store Iranian uranium in Russia “is still on the table,” but the outbreak of hostilities has complicated matters.
➡️The Kremlin notes a strong consolidation of Iranian society in response to Israeli bombings.
➡️Russia is prepared to do whatever is necessary to address the root causes of the crisis in the Middle East.
➡️Moscow is in contact with both Iran and Israel and urges all sides to avoid actions that could endanger Russian citizens.
➡️Russia condemns provocations that have led to the dangerous escalation in the region.
➡️The Kremlin has taken note of Netanyahu’s statement suggesting Israeli attacks could lead to regime change in Iran.
➡️Russia–China cooperation is not aimed against any third countries.
➡️Moscow has no concerns about China’s engagement in Central Asia undermining its own ties with the region.
➡️Central Asian countries are natural and historic allies of Russia.
➡️Putin will hold an international phone call on June 16.
DDGeopolitics
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 16 2025 10:28 utc | 11
Interesting statement. Russia is fully on board with Iran. Key words "root causes of crisis in middle east"
Posted by: Feck | Jun 16 2025 12:09 utc | 67
""09:48 GMT: Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz has issued a statement clarifying his earlier comment that 'residents of Tehran will pay the price for Iran's retaliation strikes across Israel.' 'There is no intention to physically harm the residents of Tehran,' Katz claimed..."
there are enough reports/footage already about israel "not harming" civilians. why is this nazi lying?"
Lipstick and dead pig springs to my mind!
Israel has already lost this war.
Few Israelis are prepared to live like this. They are used to dishing this treatment out, not receiving it.
Sooner or later any rational, healthy and mobile person must start asking himself questions as to why live under conditions like this? The answer is straightforward and the only sane option is to leave. It will start with a trickle, it will end with a rush. And it could happen rather fast. I don't think the Israeli public has got what it takes to tough it out. Problem will be, who would want to take them in? Past history is scary!
All in all, I think Israel is slowly cooking.
Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 16 2025 12:09 utc | 68
Iran's ballistic missile 'threat'
Netanyahu has promised to keep bombing Iran for weeks on end until they 'finish the job' by destroying all of Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile facilities. Can anyone deny that he said this after all of his interviews? If he stops short of doing this, it will only be because of Iran's ballistic missile arsenal.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 16 2025 12:10 utc | 69
"I do not have a map of Iranian strikes but how many attacks on IDF airfields? I would think that prolonged strikes on those targets would ground the IAF but I'm not a military guy. Are the airfields too dispersed?"
They could be operating from Azerbaijian by this point. They had some cooperation previously. And , since Jordan has been helping intercept Iran's missiles, maybe Jordan in offering airfields. If so, I hope the King and Queen are given the Ceauchcecu treatment soon after.
Posted by: Migmaw | Jun 16 2025 12:12 utc | 70
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 16 2025 11:33 utc | 44
The article decisively illustrates how the City of London were under no rules whatsoever and they still maintain that same position today.
Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 12:20 utc | 71
Propaganda escalated quickly with the entity now claiming it would strike Tehran. They said it and send an evacuation notice ... but have they demonstrated so far they are able to go above Tehran ?
Nope ... They send long-range missiles from afar, a few drones that didn't deliver much to show, and activate sleeper cell inside Iran to do terrorism.
Since Sunday, lots of "bad things" like automated missiles launcher and spy camera are "fortunately" discovered around the country. Sleeper cells are also hunted down like there is no tomorrow since. (what happened on Sunday morning ? Did a magic dragon appears ? )
The best part is seeing the mood change from Friday "We are gonna regime change Irhan!" to Saturday "Daddy I fucked-up ! Quick, send me gun, money and prayers !" (They don't need the usual lawyers... they are the lawyers.)
Good'ol FAFO ...
Now the bad part is yet to come, if the US commit, the Mullahs will block Ormuz : are the 'muricans MAGA ready to pay 15 bucks a gallon for a bunch of genocidal maniacs 6000 miles from home ? Well... it's complicated.
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 16 2025 12:21 utc | 72
Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 16 2025 12:09 utc | 68
Yes, Israel has a 'glass jaw' (1)
1."If someone involved in a sporting or political competition has a glass jaw, they are weak and easily defeated by an attack from an opponent"
Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 12:22 utc | 73
Iran's playing a Master game. There are plenty of targets that could totally disrupt Israeli society like the Ammonia plant in Haifa and Dimona. But they're holding off to prevent a coalition forming to protect Israhell. 'Softly softly catchee monkey.'
Posted by: Ralph Conner | Jun 16 2025 12:24 utc | 74
Did a magic dragon appears ?
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 16 2025 12:21 utc | 73
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LOL. Good one.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 16 2025 12:27 utc | 75
Posted by: Trew | Jun 16 2025 10:26 utc | 6
"Only stop when they agree to a Two State solution!"
That ship has sailed. There'll be no two state solution. There will only be Palestine.
Israel has no right to exist.
Palestine can choose how many jews are allowed to live there once the rebuilding commences, and the rest can go back to their countries of origin in Europe and the US.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 16 2025 12:28 utc | 76
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 16 2025 12:21 utc | 73 "they are able to go above Tehran?"
Mashhad Airport?
"he Mullahs will block Ormuz" That would hurt China the most and then India. But would help Russia with the expected oil price rise.
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 12:30 utc | 77
NuttyYahoo cried Uncle, Sam, that is.
Maybe today Trump will rack up another war next to his Genocide and a Ukraine war.
If it had not been for the genocide of Palestine I would not be calling for giving Israel the Gaza treatment. The Israeli's earned it the hard way as well as the Western political leadership.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 16 2025 12:30 utc | 78
So the bottom line is the IDF can dish it out, but is unable to take it !
They have destroyed 85% of the homes and businesses and infrastructure in Gaza, and murdered 100,000 plus civilians, and injured and maimed 200,000 more, but when the Iranians hit back and hit back hard, they scream foul !
War is not the answer, but Bibi and the War Cabinet will never figure that out, they need to be replaced by a coalition peace government, otherwise Israel will feel the full force of modern military force.
Comeupance is a bitch!
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 12:32 utc | 79
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 12:30 utc | 78
What we saw from Mashhad Airport was a pillar of smoke ... we saw the same one in far-east Russia two weeks ago.
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 16 2025 12:33 utc | 80
Ordinary Child (Arrested Development) versus Tom_Q-Collins took some hundred tit-for-tat postings to out a troll on a thread that went well over a thousand.
But at what cost?
I just put some people on ignore. Easier on the eyes of the MoA barfly community.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 16 2025 12:33 utc | 81
I imagine that China, Russia etc (Pakistan?) cannot take responsibility for Iran's defense.
But I think that the right words of warning from China and Russia would head-off where I think this is headed.
That and a small hole in one or more of those carriers.
Posted by: jared | Jun 16 2025 12:36 utc | 82
DunGroanin | Jun 16 2025 11:13 utc | 35
Rope a dope.
The Russians just planted themselves in Russian Ukraine and nato broke itself on the rocks of russian defences.
Mid east. Iran, like an ambush predator patiently waiting, waiting and now the prey has come to them.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 12:41 utc | 83
Looking around at local Jews who were jubilant and gung ho for slaughtering Iranians two days ago. They just got sober.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 16 2025 12:42 utc | 84
I imagine that China, Russia etc (Pakistan?) cannot take responsibility for Iran's defense.
Posted by: jared | Jun 16 2025 12:36 utc | 83
When any Western country is attacked the entire West unites to defend it.
When any country outside the West is attacked, it is left to the sharks.
If this continues the world will only ever know one Dharma:
That all outside the West must forever be prey.
That fate will be known in turn again by Russia, China, India ...
Given this, non involvement is not a sign of anything else but cowardice.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 12:44 utc | 85
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsm7aMDKLBE
Wonderful way of putting it. Alastair Crooke on Judge Nap just said that Iran's aim, much like Russia's in Ukraine is to "demilitarize Israel". He says he doesn't know whether they will succeed. But the fact that the possibility is on the table to be discussed is just astounding, never known before in Israel's relations with its neighbours. The Israeli myth is busted.
His general line was that the Israel/US plan was to use what used to be called 'shock and awe' to regime change Iran, but it was poorly thought out, and Iranian national resistance has only been increased. The Iranians recovered their air defence in 8 hours.
I have to say that I'm wondering whether Trump will go through with the US attack. Could be, could be not. There's no advantage for US or Trump himself.
Posted by: laguerre | Jun 16 2025 12:46 utc | 86
So what is the head count on IDF aircraft losses so far?
How many F35s lost?
How many F16's lost?
How many F15s lost?
Are they really using obsolete F4's because of their losses and large scale maintenance issues, and losses from ground strikes on their airbases?
Anyone have updates?
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 12:47 utc | 87
Hilarious.
A Italian envoy in USA told that the 13 tons warhead can penetrate 800 meters in the ground. :)
Posted by: Mario | Jun 16 2025 12:48 utc | 88
Its obvious now that the Mossad was involved with the SBU Ukronazi airstrikes on RF airbases.....same tactics used in Iran.
How will RF respond?
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 12:49 utc | 89
I always wished the Persian jews would speak out just a little bit. Understand why they may want to keep a low profile but they after all historically anti-zionist. As were by and large all jew communities in Iraq, Syria, (Trans)Jordan, Egypt, Algeria, Muscat, etc. and in particularly the travestied Yemeni jews. You'd think their presence in Tehran and elsewhere would give slight pause, in Washington if not among the zealots in Israel.
Posted by: petra | Jun 16 2025 12:52 utc | 90
The Israel-Iran conflict is just another theatre in the war being waged by the Hegemon to keep its grip on the unipolar world order. It is different only in geographic location than Ukraine or Taiwan. Russia and China need to understand this and act accordingly. They cannot stand idly by and look on as they did in Syria and Lebanon.
Posted by: Moses22 | Jun 16 2025 12:52 utc | 91
Given this, non involvement is not a sign of anything else but cowardice.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 12:44 utc | 85
right or is there some back room deal, either way china and russia kind of suck
Posted by: natrat | Jun 16 2025 12:57 utc | 92
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 12:44 utc | 85When any Western country is attacked the entire West unites to defend it.
When any country outside the West is attacked, it is left to the sharks.
I'm pretty sure you don't realize how racist, demeaning, and patronizing is what you wrote.
Calling others cowards while typing self-righteous admonitions on internet fora.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 12:58 utc | 93
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 16 2025 12:47 utc | 87 "Are they really using obsolete F4's because of their losses and large scale maintenance issues, and losses from ground strikes on their airbases?"
Iran or Israel?
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 12:59 utc | 94
I'm pretty sure you don't realize how racist, demeaning, and patronizing is what you wrote.
Calling others cowards while typing self-righteous admonitions on internet fora.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 16 2025 12:58 utc | 93
As long as it's true, and it is, I don't care.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 16 2025 12:59 utc | 95
The critical issue here is Iran's missile production. I tend to doubt that Syria, Hamas, Hezbollah or even the Houthis can offer much support. I can recall Hezbollah missile numbers to be crazy enormous some years ago but I now doubt they had that much. Otherwise, where are they?
How many missiles does Iran have and how many can they produce in what timeframe? Scott Ritter didn't sound optimistic. Drones, OTOH, they can probably crank out in huge numbers. Maybe Iran can approach North Korea for missiles ( and who knows what else?)
The whole thing exposes the moral vacuity of the West yet again. US nukes were under the direct authority of a senile elderly man, now an unbalanced man. Israel arrogantly flirts with pushing the whole world into disaster - with oil embargoes and nuke development - while the US bombs anyone, anytime it pleases.
I hope for balance here for world peace but who can say at this point?
Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 16 2025 13:00 utc | 96
Putin needs to hand over a few oreshniks to Iran asap
Posted by: Night Tripper | Jun 16 2025 13:01 utc | 97
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 16 2025 12:33 utc | 80 "What we saw from Mashhad Airport was a pillar of smoke"
Never know what is real these days but:
Mashhad Airport: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtkOszXbQAA4MxZ?format=jpg&name=large
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 16 2025 13:04 utc | 98
Highlights: Al Mayadeen English (UPDATING)
https://english.almayadeen.net/shortnews
Today, 13:00 - "Iranian delegates tell Al Mayadeen: 'Israel bears responsibility for any step toward withdrawing from the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty..."
Iran Shuts Doors on Nuclear Talks, Halts Cooperation with IAEA
https://x.com/timand2037/status/1934559659593187427
"Iran cuts all cooperation with IAEA after bad faith actions from Rafael Grossi collaborating with the Israelis and several members who have backed Israeli aggression against Iran."
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 16 2025 13:06 utc | 99
I'm ready not sure why the Original Child thing has such staying power living rent free in people's heads as it only started 1,000 posts into a 30-hr old thread late at night or early in the morning, depending on location, about 4 hours before the regular Sunday threads were published. It's kind of fascinating how much it keeps coming back up.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 16 2025 13:08 utc | 100
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Is that why Uncle Sam is dashing to the rescue?
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 16 2025 10:18 utc | 1