Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 22, 2025
Tic-Toc No. 8 On The War On Iran

This report seems genuine:

Exclusive: Iran given advance notice as US insisted attack on nuclear sites is ‘one-off’Amwaj

US President Donald Trump says three key nuclear facilities in Iran have been “obliterated,” while threatening more strikes “if peace does not come quickly.” This comes as Amwaj.media has learned that Washington notified Tehran of the strikes. Speaking on condition of anonymity, a high-ranking Iranian political source confirmed that the Trump administration on June 21 conveyed that it did not seek an all-out confrontation, and only intended to strike the Fordow, Isfahan and Natanz nuclear sites. Importantly, the senior source also confirmed that the targeted sites were evacuated, with "most" of Iran's stockpile of enriched uranium kept in secure locations.

The Pentagon claims that 30 cruise missiles were fired from submarines against Iranian nuclear sites near Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow. The main strike was allegedly by three B-2 heavy bomber which dropped six bunker buster bombs on the buried enrichment facility in Fordow. There are doubts that this indeed has happened:

My theory for the evening? I think this was a low-risk, low-impact attack entirely conducted using submarine-launched cruise missiles, and the DoD is simply lying about heavy bomber involvement for propaganda purposes.

We will have to wait for before/after satellite pictures and/or video from the ground before assessing the attack.

What we do know for sure is that the U.S. has launched an unprovoked, illegitimate attack against another country. The attack was also in breach of the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty. Iran could, and now maybe should, resign from that treaty and reject inspections by IAEA personnel.

Comments

Please show the documentation of your assertion about closing the Strait of Hormuz
Posted by: canuk | Jun 22 2025 12:38 utc | 199
Pasted from Middle East Spectator:
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20744
Interpret it’s veracity as you wish.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 12:41 utc | 201

Well I’ll repeat my comment from previous thread as it seems it’s true!
Drumpff May brag about grabbing defenceless pussies. 

He is better as a cock teaser.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 21 2025 21:39 utc | 340
Seeing him and his gang of sons telling the world that this is their town and their Rules; the Law can hang, is about as Hollywood cowboy baddies as it gets – isn’t it?
There’s a new sheriff in town and his band of bros are about to insist on Law. Dear or Alive.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 22 2025 12:41 utc | 202

Iran could sink the Nimitz, one year off its decommissioning.
NYC headline to read: “Iran mullah regime sinks American cruise ship in international waters – casualties to be confirmed”!
May the farce be with you …

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jun 22 2025 12:41 utc | 203

@184 ed4: No, sorry, you are misinformed. While the Iranians do not have the S-400 in their inventory, there is a single S-400 battery inside Iran that is operated by the Russians and used to provide protection for the Russian nuclear scientists working at the Bushehr nuclear power plant.
A condition of the deal to allow Russian assistance at that power plant, apparently.
I don’t doubt that there is an understanding that this one S-400 battery is not meant to participate in the general defense of Iranian airspace, but is authorized to shoot at anything that looks like it is approaching Bushehr.
But that, obviously, doesn’t preclude it from recording radar and other electromagnetic emissions from a flight of B-2 bombers that come within radar range.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 22 2025 12:42 utc | 204

Sourced from O Presstv, a news agency originally started by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad:
‼️ Major General Kowsari, member of the National Security Commission of the Parliament: The Parliament has reached the conclusion that the Strait of Hormuz should be closed, but the final decision in this regard lies with the Supreme National Security Council.
@PressTV

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 12:43 utc | 205

see the photo at the first link
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1936740699929514221
Sulaiman Ahmed
@ShaykhSulaiman
WHEN ISRAELI TERRORISTS PUT MY NAME ON A MISSILE FOR SPEAKING OUT AGAINST GENOClDE
All I have to say is…
BOOM BOOM TEL AVIV
https://x.com/CraigMokhiber/status/1936586992961085687
Craig Mokhiber @CraigMokhiber
After being complicit for days in the Israeli regime’s treacherous attacks on Iran, the US has now directly attacked Iran. On behalf of an oppressive foreign regime (Israel), and to protect that regime’s ability to continue to perpetrate a genocide in Palestine and aggression abroad, the US has again blatantly violated international law, committed billions in taxpayer dollars, likely killed innocent Iranians, and put US soldiers and civilians at risk.
This attack constitutes an act of aggression, violates the prohibition of attacks on nuclear facilities (potentially putting millions at risk), and triggers the right of Iran to defend itself against the aggression. The world must unite to hold the Israeli and US perpetrators accountable for these crimes.
https://x.com/MonitorX99800/status/1936717376575443287
Monitor𝕏 @MonitorX99800
🇮🇷⚡Senior Iranian official to Reuters – Any move to target Khamenei would close the door to any agreement or negotiation and would lead to an “unlimited” response.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 22 2025 12:43 utc | 206

@184
Talk to Larry Johnson.
Consensus said US beat Houthi last month….
As in Ukraine if US can hunt radars, RF would have none in Donbas.
Thank you for your interest in empire defense.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 22 2025 12:46 utc | 207

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 12:43 utc | 206
Thanks

Posted by: canuk | Jun 22 2025 12:47 utc | 208

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 22 2025 9:44 utc | 89
It is good that you posted Brian Berletic’s post, because everything he says there is totally true.
That will, as up to now, fall on deaf ears and many a mouth will befoul him, while the terrorist US/Israel/ appendages train continues on to its long-planned destinations. ‘The New Middle East’ being one of them, just a stop on the way to the end point.
I re-post my post of this morning on the last related thread:
It is interesting how people downplay the US attack on Iran as – just for show. Nothing much to see there! It wasn’t destructive enough, because only if it caused massive, or total destruction – it would not be mocked and dismissed !
US/Israel and appendages, of course, know this world well and knew that this would be downplayed as a PR stunt, because they enjoy full impunity for all their actions, and move steadily in achieving their goals.
The fact is, however, that ANY attack of the US on Iran, which is no threat to anyone, is criminal and has very, very serious and profound repercussions all around.
The threshold has been crossed. Welcome to another American century.
Posted by: JB | June 22, 2025 at 07:47 1042
It is interesting how people downplay the US attack on Iran as – just for show. Nothing much to see there! It wasn’t destructive enough, because only if it caused massive, or total destruction – it would not be mocked and dismissed !
Us/Israel and appendages , of course, know this world well and knew that this would be downplayed as a PR stunt, because they enjoy full impunity for all their actions and move steadily in achieving their goals.
The fact is, however, that ANY attack of the US on Iran, which is no threat to anyone, is criminal and has very, very serious and profound repercussions all around.
The threshold has been crossed. Welcome to another American century.
Posted by: JB | June 22, 2025 at 07:47 1042

Posted by: JB | Jun 22 2025 12:48 utc | 209

Posted by: canuk | Jun 22 2025 12:38 utc | 199
I call BS on the straits. Pepe Escobar is pushing it and his track record is garbage on Iran.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 12:48 utc | 210

So Trump Chose June 22 for His unprovoked Attack. How fitting. I dont even have to call him a Nazi. America does that by itself.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 22 2025 9:02 utc | 54
Actually June 22nd, 1944 is the date of the unprovoked sneaky Russian Bagration attack on Belarus: a peaceful nation that only wanted to remain independent under Euro protection.
Putin already was unbound at the time.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Jun 22 2025 12:50 utc | 211

As usual Medvedev always delivers it straight!
Also
Iranian leader flying to Moscow to talk Strategic plans.
Also
what’s happening in the Ukropian collapse?
Handy having some where else to look to as it gives up the ghost!
Handy also to blame Iranians for deaths of mercs there and hide them as having been killed by Iran!
Also
Yo! HasbaRats Ho Ho Ho
How’s the weekend in TelAviv?
Boom boom boom
Gotta pack fast and RUUUUUNNNN rabbits run.
The illegal apartheid entity also ends with ukropian dream.
From The River To The Sea.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 22 2025 12:52 utc | 212

Iran just *saying* they’re about to close the straits is likely enough to cause insurance rates to spike. Probably a ploy.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 12:53 utc | 213

The Iranian parliament has unanimously reached the decision to close the Strait of Hormuz
Now, the final decision rests with the Supreme National Security Council and the Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamenei.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1936765108367089854

Posted by: guest | Jun 22 2025 12:57 utc | 214

German mainstream media: “strong attack on Iran”, “what does it mean for Iran’s nuclear bomb?” and so on. I assume it’s the same all over the West. So that part of the programme works — the USA can announce/pretend to have done their part.
I believe that Israel is unable to escalate conventionally but the question is about Iran. I have faith in the wisdom of the Iranian leadership. They did not take a quick way out: missiles and drones still fly on Israel, and I assume it’s linked to Gaza. Hopefully there are backchannel talks that solve both issues at the same time. There is also massive interest in the West (but not Israel) to get rid of the gruesome pictures from Gaza.
Iran also keeps the street of Hormuz hanging in the open for now; again I hope this is negotation material.
I think the widespread fixation on personalities is misguided but we can now say that Team Trump had a rational plan: they’ve been intentionally ramping up excitement the last few days, discharging the tension in the strike on Iran. This is a media operation so for that to work, it does not matter how little damage Iran sustained. Did anyone hear yet about casualties from the three places in Iran supposedly struck? I didn’t.
Whether the full US plan works out and Israel gets to live another day under zionist regime remains to be seen. The US did their part. Unclear if Iran plays along. Likud could probably foil any of this if desired using e.g. more terrorism; they have a kind of “destructive veto”.

Posted by: Konami | Jun 22 2025 12:58 utc | 215

: Eclipse | Jun 22 2025 7:44 utc | 3 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran opines..
Trump obviously wants a face saving out.
jure | Jun 22 2025 7:47 utc | 4 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran responds
Then why escalate in the first place, and go in at all? He could easily have said, “sorry, your problems are not our problems.”
<= I respond Maybe Trump made a deal with Iran, I need to shut Netanyohu's claims of your nuclear threat up, to do that I need PR, so I am going to feign an attack designed to take the guts of Netanyohus claim that your nuclear industry is a threat threat to Israel off the books. After that you can proceed with your response to Israels irrational war.. I can answer to my people that Iran is no longer a Nuke threat to anyone. IOWs this gives Netanyohu and his Likud party a life-saving way out <-- Israel with or without Netanyohu can now negotiate with Iran on Iranian terms? May have been arranged IOT regime change Israel, not Iran. ? Nick | Jun 22 2025 7:59 utc | Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran Israel is going to be the Ukraine of the middle east. <= Maybe, Trump realized Iranian leadership to be sane and Israeli leadership and lobby pressure from American based foreign-based AIPAC demands had to be reconciled some how? :Woke American | Jun 22 2025 8:18 utc | 20 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran China detected the incoming raid, informed Russia and Iran that it was a “safe” raid. So Iran put away it's AD, and let Trump destroy the US reputation. Posted by: JB | Jun 22 2025 8:18 utc | 22 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran Foreign Ministry, Islamic Republic of Iran 🇮🇷 @IRIMFA_EN· Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic of #Iran concerning the #UnitedStates military aggression against Iran's peaceful nuclear facilities <=this statement is not one of anger.. and suggest to me it may h/b agreed to in advance? : Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 22 2025 8:25 utc | 26 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran If DJT thinks this is the end of the Iran Threat then he's deluded <=I think Trumps' attack on Iran was designed to silence the claim that has been and is the justification for Israels' war on Iran.. Suggest that if Israel is to survive the anger it has aroused from Iran, Israel must find a way to turn Iran off.. : Harbin | Jun 22 2025 8:28 utc | 30 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran None of this brings to an end the Tel Aviv Sound and Light show. It remains the biggest crisis in Israel's history. <=Peace and ultimately Israel's survival is now up to Isreal. If it cannot settle it differences with Iran, it will I believe cease to exist. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 22 2025 8:33 utc | 33 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran 'Ghost of Fowdow" will go down in history as the lie that finished the Empire. Russia, China and Iran set the trap and TACO obliged. I believe Dimona is now on the table. <= its possible that was the deal, Iran would allow the USA to shut in Irans' nuclear facilities iff the USA would shut in Isreal's nuclear faciltieis and capacities. This is something JFK was trying to accomplish back in the 1960s and it makes sense to me.. But if such is the case Pakistan proclaimation that Trump should be given the Nobel peace prize makes sense. Trump has come to realize MAGA and the existence of Israel are incomplatible! Trump has realized nothing can be done in Washington, ALA Israeli warriors are embedded in Washington policics with purpose to run interference on every facit of MAGA politics. Trump may have just removed Israel from USA politics.. : Cyril | Jun 22 2025 8:45 utc | 41 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran If the US can attack Iran's nuclear sites, Iran can attack the nuclear sites of the US's proxy. People working at Israel's nuclear power plant (Dimona) should beware. <=yes I am guessing that is the plan.. Iran and Russia may have become allies of the USA.. China may even have been in on it.. Trump may have done a deal.. most of the planes have been moved to Tiawan.. out of harms way.. : James Richard | Jun 22 2025 9:09 utc | 61 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran Iran will ignore this and keep up its pummeling of its real threat, Israel. In no way did this strike deflect Iran's focus on its objectives in forcing Israel to desist in its aggression against them. <== I think that may be the plan.. Trump pulled one over on Isreal. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 9:55 utc | 95 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran ❗️🇮🇷🇮🇱| Iran destroyed the top-secret biological weapons center in Ness Ziona, 20 km from Tel Aviv <=the existence of this center may have provided strong incentive for Iran to agree to be bombed.. It needed to get rid of this threat for irrational activity.. ?? : Bruised Northerner | Jun 22 2025 9:59 utc | 98 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran “ after Iran inevitably launches offensives on American military bases and possibly civilians. <== I predict that won't happen except as a false flag initiated by either Britain or Israel.. Cool heads have prevailed.. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 22 2025 10:05 utc | 104 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran Trump has delivered on his attempted "performative bombing declare victory and go home" to quell the Zionist pressure while not losing his base and the whole of his domestic agenda. The question is will Iran cooperate by not attacking US bases, or carrying out its own performative attack? The missile attacks on Israel continue, but now they can't complain about Iran's nuclear capabilities, otherwise they have to call Trump a liar. <= I think Trump's attack on Iran's nuclear sites may h/b much more than a declaration of victory? Time will tell, but it may have been the best, and maybe the only way, Trump could protect America and the USA that governs it, from Iranian attack.. A Isreali or British instigated false flag was likely and that risk has been eliminated, even if the false flag happens the agreement will hold .. ? The people most angry about this I believe are going to be Likud party and the City of London.. : michaelj72 | Jun 22 2025 11:54 utc | 177 Tic-Toc No. 8 on the War on Iran After Iranian missiles hit “Israel,” the Israeli army separated foreign journalists from Israeli journalists so that they could not cover the site of the missile strikes. <= probably a good Idea if the attack was part of the negotiated settlement I predict may have happened.

Posted by: snake | Jun 22 2025 13:00 utc | 216

And I thought this stuff only happened in the movies:

—❗️🇮🇷/🇪🇺 NEW: During the arrest of a Mossad element near Kermanshah, the European national committed suicide with a cyanide pill
@Middle_East_Spectator

That guy was definitely “all in” on this one. A true believer in whatever the dream was …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 13:05 utc | 217

see the three photos at the second link
https://x.com/IranNuances/status/1936685676684009558
Iran Nuances @IranNuances
IRGC Statement: #Iran launched 40 solid & liquid-fuel missiles. For 1st time, multi-warhead Kheibarshekan ballistic missile was used for precise, devastating strikes on Ben Gurion Airport, #Israel’s biological research center & command centers. Main capacities not yet operational.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1936761167633948839
Megatron @Megatron_ron
🇮🇷🇮🇱 Iran destroyed the top-secret biological weapons center in Ness Ziona, 20 km from Tel Aviv
What is this center?
• It is a highly classified military facility involved in biological and chemical weapons, as well as military research.
• The institute is linked to biological warfare and even plots involving assassinations using toxic substances in Iran & elsewhere.
• According to some unofficial reports, this institute is considered part of Israel’s hidden arsenal of unconventional weapons.
———
https://x.com/TVFreePalestine/status/1936371227863466141
Free Palestine TV @TVFreePalestine
It has been 20 months of Turkey’s direct participation in the Genocide in Palestine and 14 years in the destruction of Syria; but there are still some fools sharing Erdogan drivel against Zionist attacks on Iran, while their jets fly over his airspace to bomb it.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 22 2025 13:08 utc | 218

I don’t doubt that there is an understanding that this one S-400 battery is not meant to participate in the general defense of Iranian airspace, but is authorized to shoot at anything that looks like it is approaching Bushehr.
But that, obviously, doesn’t preclude it from recording radar and other electromagnetic emissions from a flight of B-2 bombers that come within radar range.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 22 2025 12:42 utc | 205
They surely have B-2 radar model since it started to fly. Or are you suggesting Russia sent an s400 there and tricked everyone so that US bombs the country just to see a B-2 closer? It’s not even clear what bomb or plane was used. all photos show some holes and orange circles, which are real. They’re Trumpy’s signature, like Zorro but orange and O from tremendOus
s400 is a simple museum piece like Oreshnik. It’ll shoot at Migs from Ukr, but that’s all

Posted by: rk | Jun 22 2025 13:09 utc | 219

Re attack on Dimona
Iranians, being honourable people, will first attempt to gauge the fallout, of such an attack, on Israel’s Muslim neighbours.

Posted by: necromancer | Jun 22 2025 13:09 utc | 220

So, the Peace President was able to deliver to the Zionist Concentration Camp the promised attack on Iran’s nuclear sites. Mission accomplished. However the Zionist Concentration Camp is still in deep doodoo as the Iranian missiles continue to visit them with fresh explosions, not only making a mess but also not letting the natives sleep and pray.
According to Prof. Postol of MIT, to go deep with the bunker busters you will need to use several of them, which they did. The first makes the starting shaft and then the next WOULD NEED TO BE THREADED INTO THE SAME SHAFT to go further down. The photos available show that NOT to be the case.
https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FGuDBTOgWQAARX2p.jpg
There isn’t even guarantee that they would go exactly straight down, as any sudden inhomogeneity of the strata they go through could result in a deflected trajectory. So what they really do in a given situation is a big unknown. Nice in cartoon movies but that is about it.
I put my bet on “It was just a show” to shut the mouths of the New York rabbis calling him day and night as well as the AIPAC donors.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:09 utc | 221

Pentagon Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPFQdFxOV4k&ab_channel=CRUX
Worth listening ? I doubt it unless you are bored and want to get a laugh.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:15 utc | 222

Any movement of US resources out of the region yet? No?
Not even the claimed B2 bombers?
My dog wants to know 😉

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 22 2025 13:16 utc | 223

the attack was a balk, a pulled punch. The dupe is Israel, they’re still taking real shots.
Had an old teammate, a fierce teammate and a dumbass. He’d smoke in the Willy-way and get aggressive. I remember him (being 6’2″ or so) scanning the party looking for some punk looking back at him. He’d find someone to square off against, usually smaller. I’d position myself behind the little guy, preying he would take a swing, a cheap first shot. I was ready to tackle George, to break up the fight. I think it was unfortunate that never happened. George ended up doing substantial jail time from petty assault shit.
Anyway, I suspect Trump is happy to see Bibi take a few shots. We really don’t know how much (psychological) damage has been done till the airport is open.
Poor George, we’d start to gather to share the herbal sacrament, but would have to lie to George, in 10 minutes. hated having to cut him out, but pot made him Aggro.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 22 2025 13:18 utc | 224

RE: “ 🇮🇷⚡Senior Iranian official to Reuters – Any move to target Khamenei would close the door to any agreement or negotiation and would lead to an “unlimited” response.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 22 2025 12:43 utc | 207
Since from Reuters & some anonymous “Senior Iranian official”… guessing made up BS. Sounds pretty stupid thing to say, and at this point, “negotiations” are pretty much off the table anyways. Wondering if some UK gaslighting to bring assassination back in view, as if they have the power, which guessing they do not.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 22 2025 13:19 utc | 225

Interesting, according to this guy the holes are not from bunker busters.
No B-2s over Iran ????
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1936752062831677750
Fog of War and Information Warfare

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:23 utc | 226

I’m sorry. The notion that it’s feasible to engage with Americans in negotiations is reckless and absurd. We’re never going to stop on our own. Ever.

Posted by: chunga | Jun 22 2025 13:23 utc | 227

RE: “Worth listening ? I doubt it unless you are bored and want to get a laugh.”
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:15 utc | 223
Agreed, the tropes only good for x amount of wars, after that, a yawn … I don’t even bother. Nor do I read or listen to a thing from the bobble-head behind the fake resolute desk.
He’s boring too…

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 22 2025 13:23 utc | 228

Somebody needs to hire a better copywriter and a better editor.
B-2 carries a maximum payload of 40,000 pounds
GBU-57 weighs 30,000 pounds.
The B-2s over Fordow are said to have carried two GBU-57s each.
This does not add up.
My guess is basically nothing happened. Bad scriptwriting.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 22 2025 13:26 utc | 229

Nerds online explaining how the MOPs work.
Do MoA nerds agree?

The GBU 57 freefalls at close to mach 1 430 meters per second it doesnt have enough kinetic energy to rely on it alone for penetration. what it does have is a copper-lined shaped charge driven by 350kg of PBXN-114 that can cut a 60 meter shaft into granite
A shaped charge makes the copper jet move at mach 50 (38,000 miles per hour). at that speed its like poking a screwdriver through cottage cheese.
Then….. the liner jet of a shaped charge moves at double the detonation velocity of the explosive driving it. PBXN-114 has a detonation velocity of 8000 meters per second making the jet 16,000 meters per second. That’s mach 50, or 50 times the speed of sound.

Also. The specs say it can penetrate 60ft.
But the rest of the world uses metres… so now it’s capable of penetrating 60m because… feet/ metres are both a unit of measurement and thus interchangeable.
Oh. And sarc for the dumbasses who require one.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 22 2025 13:26 utc | 230

This is interesting. Pataramesh tweet I quote here was an hour ago.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:23 utc | 227
However 3 hours ago he was saying there were GBU-57s used.
“Three large holes in the mountain protecting 🇮🇷’s Fordow enrichment plant
➡️ The CLAIMED 12 GBU-57 hence did not hit the same spot, reducing the chance of serious damage to the facility
➡️ Iran now faces a clear non-zero risk of 🇮🇱 guiding a ☢️-tipped Golden Horizon high-precision aero-ballistic-missile into the deepest hole”
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1936732999191540023
I’m guessing he might have gotten better information from his buddies close to the action thus suggesting no B-2s involved.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:32 utc | 231

see the 47-second video at the first link
see the second link. MacGregor is certainly exaggerating, but we can assume that overall the israelis are hiding the full extent of the damage to their military, intelligence and high-tech assets, bases and air defense systems etc
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1936292747935465666
Sulaiman Ahmed @ShaykhSulaiman
“STOP GENOClDE! STOP GENOClDE!”
This Japanese man has been protesting at the israeli embassy in Tokyo every week for over a year 👏🏻
https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1935857394958913976
Douglas Macgregor @DougAMacgregor
Don’t be fooled, Israel is in worse shape then people think.
About 1/3 of Tel Aviv has been damaged or destroyed.
As far as their military installations are concerned, I’m told many Israeli aircraft’s are being flown to Cyprus to avoid being struck.
Israel was not prepared for Iran’s response.
https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1936647850672210338
Chris Murphy @ChrisMurphyCT
I was briefed on the intelligence last week.
Iran posed no imminent threat of attack to the United States. Iran was not close to building a deliverable nuclear weapon. The negotiations Israel scuttled with their strikes held the potential for success.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 22 2025 13:32 utc | 232

The Jewish King, his Vazir, and the Christians – by Rumi
(derived from Book I of Masnavi)

A certain Jewish king used to persecute the Christians, desiring to exterminate their faith.
His Vazir persuaded him to try a stratagem, namely, to mutilate the Vazir himself, and expel him from his court, with the intent that he might take refuge with the Christians, and stir up mutual dissensions amongst them.
The Vazir’s suggestion was adopted.
He fled to the Christians, and found no difficulty in persuading them that he had been treated in that barbarous way on account of his attachment to the Christian faith.
He soon gained complete influence over them, and was accepted as a saintly martyr and a divine teacher.
Only a few discerning men divined his treachery ; the majority were all deluded by him.
The Christians were divided into twelve legions, and at the head of each was a captain.
To each of these captains the Vazir gave secretly a volume of religious directions, taking care to make the directions in each volume different from and contradictory to those in the others. One volume enjoined fasting, another charity, another faith, another works, and so on.
Afterwards the Vazir withdrew into a cave, and refused to come out to instruct his disciples, in spite of all their entreaties. Calling the captains to him, he gave secret instructions to each to set himself up as his successor, and to be guided by the instructions in the volume secretly confided to him, and to slay all other claimants of the apostolic office.
Having given these directions, slew himself.
In the event each captain set himself up as the Vazir’s successor, and the Christians were split up into many sects at enmity with one another, even as the Vazir had intended.
But the malicious scheme did not, altogether succeed, as one faithful band cleaved to the name of “Ahmad,” mentioned in the Gospel, and were thus saved from sharing the ruin of the rest.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 13:32 utc | 233

US Strikes Iran in Dangerous Act of War Following US-Enabled Israeli Attacks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tVIgtOAs18

Posted by: Vortex | Jun 22 2025 13:35 utc | 234

It’s not yet clear how the Iran war will resolve but this much is clear by now:
In March 2022, Russia proved that there are hard limits to NATO aggression in Europe. The Ukraine war has been costly for both sides but it’s a strategic win for the East and a strategic loss for the West. The war will take time to wind down but Russia’s win was never in doubt and is now plain to see.
In June 2025, Iran proved that there are hard limits to Western aggression in the Middle East. (“Western” includes Israel, of course). This war could become hotter and bigger but doesn’t have to (I think neither USA nor Iran are interested in escalation but Israel and Gaza complicate things.)
Common features for both wars:
* The West eagerly wanted these wars. The East was reluctant, almost timid, until accepting full war. And then owning it. Both sides prepared these wars for decades.
* The West knew in advance that military victory was not in reach. This is why they hoped for indirect victories: economic downfall and regime change in Russia; loss of cohesion (decapitation strike) and then regime change in Iran. In both cases, the West’s dream goal is to split up the countries Yugoslavia-style.
* More evidence the West is losing in each arena: resorting to terrorism and diplomatic subterfuge; having to limit their own populations’ information access.

Posted by: Konami | Jun 22 2025 13:37 utc | 235

This being MofA, a lot of the comments here just express non-Orwellian commonsense observations, which is well and good. What is perhaps less noted here is that Western leaders, at least European leaders, are privy to this same commonsense and understand that Netanyahu is an inveterate liar, while the latter himself must perceive that he’s not particularly well-liked by Western leaders (Obama being a famous example). However, the show must go on, in part, so as to meet the expectations of a sizeable cohort of Western voters who remain at heart racist towards Arabs/Persians (not necessarily without cause, e.g. 9/11). Furthermore, Iran is itself complicit in the theater of liberationist aggregation towards Israel, but rarely acts upon this, perhaps because of legal scrupulosity (very ironic indeed, coming from a so-called “revolutionary” power). The least Iran could do is offer the world a thorough dissection of events like Oct 7, but even this is evidently deemed too controversial by Iranian decision makers, so it bombs commercial parks and the odd hospital in Tel Aviv instead after having had much of its first row of leaders eliminated.

Posted by: Ludovic | Jun 22 2025 13:37 utc | 236

Pants down on the ground for the IDF. They are making barking noises that they “are not done with Iran”.
“Israeli army says has ‘other goals’ in Iran, will continue attacks
AFP June 22, 2025 9:01 am”
https://insiderpaper.com/israeli-army-says-has-other-goals-in-iran-will-continue-attacks/
Nothing like make believe in the Land of Depraved Zionists.
And Ukraine has completely disappeared from the News radar.
Is something going on there ?

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:39 utc | 237

Posted by: Konami | Jun 22 2025 13:37 utc | 236
You might want to add that in June 2025 Iran proved the infeasibility of Western air defences. A new era of non-impunity for Western Imperial forces has begun globally …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 13:42 utc | 238

Marandi on Diesen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkHE1-WrIEg

Posted by: ld | Jun 22 2025 13:43 utc | 239

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:39 utc | 238

It hasn’t disappeared at all, just less eyeballs\focus from western audiences this week.
Nothing particularly special or out of the ordinary going on, grind forward continues at roughly same pace as last week,etc.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 22 2025 13:48 utc | 240

When a nation attacks nuclear facilities of an adversary nation, and it is evaluated as a a performative strike, we are truly living in a bizarro world. Also, I find it hard to believe that an expensive airframe like the B2, of which there are only 20, would be put at risk for a strike that has no chance of doing any real damage. These nuclear facilities in Iran are very large, with an expansive labyrinth of tunnels, and the access points are some distance from the operational parts of the facility. For a bunker buster to have any real chance to damage a critical area, the attackers would have to know exactly where underground the nuclear material is kept, which seems impossible unless some people inside turned informant. Even then, it would take a much larger attack to even have a chance at destroying the centrifuges and stored material. I don’t know what is going on in the mind of DJT, but I do know that he is mentally unstable and amoral.

Posted by: Mike R | Jun 22 2025 13:48 utc | 241

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 13:42 utc | 239
You might want to add that in June 2025 Iran proved the infeasibility of Western air defences. A new era of non-impunity for Western Imperial forces has begun globally …

Yes, that’s true. And more: technological advance is with the East (Oreshnik, the new Iranian missiles), China’s DeepSeek is more efficient in data and energy than anything Silican Valley made, the East stresses STEM whereas the West has yet to abolish the childish LGBT/DEI agenda.
All strategic parameters are bad for the West and good for the East, except demographics where the USA have almost linear population growth due to immigration.
I think it’s smart of the East to make the West’s decline as slow and palatable as possible, even if it incurs local losses.

Posted by: Konami | Jun 22 2025 13:49 utc | 242

The least Iran could do is offer the world a thorough dissection of events like Oct 7, but even this is evidently deemed too controversial by Iranian decision makers, so it bombs commercial parks and the odd hospital in Tel Aviv instead after having had much of its first row of leaders eliminated.
Posted by: Ludovic | Jun 22 2025 13:37 utc | 237
You seriously think the mythical “World” would listen ?
There are some many studies/research papers out on the side effects of the Covid shots that it would make your head spin. Does it do any good ? HECK NO. The stuff is still being shot into the arms of men/women/pregnant women/babies and kids.
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/the-czech-data-reveals-the-truth?r=o7iqo&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
So expecting “the World to listen” is wishful thinking in my opinion.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:49 utc | 243

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 22 2025 13:48 utc | 241
I was being sarcastic 🙂

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:51 utc | 244

The satellite image released by Maxar shows the impact sites to be two locations with three holes each.
Seems to me that would preclude the GBU-57, because a B-2 can only carry two of those.
I *suppose* three B-2 could follow one after the other, dropping one bomb at one spot and the second bomb at the other spot but…. why?
That would seem very inefficient compared to a B-2 dropping both its bombs at once on Target A, and then another B-2 dropping both its bombs on Target B.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 22 2025 13:51 utc | 245

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 13:49 utc | 244
So expecting “the World to listen” is wishful thinking in my opinion.

Agreed. Those in the West who want to know do so. The entire non-West knows exactly what is going on. It’s pointless to try and convince the ideological core of the West, and we see from Russian and Iranian statements that they know.
The West can only come to terms with Gaza once the current crop of politicians and legacy media are turned over. This will happen at some time but no idea when. Achieving this is not the main goal of the East (rightly so, in my opinion).

Posted by: Konami | Jun 22 2025 13:53 utc | 246

MoA appears to have become the internet’s #1 excuse-maker for Donald Trump. Remarkable.

Posted by: Dirk | Jun 22 2025 13:53 utc | 247

ok Sun, I don’t like Trump, never did. But, consider what Kamala would have done. I voted for Stein. If Kamala were President we’d probably have boots on the ground. So, remember, everything is relative.
When you avoid a fight and one party shoves the other as they’re breaking up, you don’t call the police, You just go your separate ways. In fact, the guy shoving, doesn’t like it, but is backing down.
Some of you are super stupid. But let me teach you something I taught my kids. If someone sucker punches you in the face, if you taking the punch will end the fight, you just look the bastard dead in the eye and wait for them to leave. They don’t want to fight you, you won. Most of you never lived/walked the streets

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 22 2025 13:55 utc | 248

@Woke American | Sun, 22 Jun 2025 08:18:00 GMT | 20

* Note: If the US informed Iran about the attack before hand: Who came up with something this stupid? And who approved it and agreed with it?

UNCONDITONAL SURRENDER

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 22 2025 13:58 utc | 249

This date 2025.06.22 would be taken as the starting date of WWIII, provided Iran retaliates meaningfully in the next few days.

Posted by: OreshNikki | Jun 22 2025 13:58 utc | 250

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 22 2025 13:55 utc | 249
Lol boots on the ground?! Ridiculous.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:00 utc | 251

https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1936585741456244801
Ken Klippenstein @kenklippenstein
US military now briefing troops that its strike on Iran “will likely result in counterstrikes on US bases and facilities” in the Middle East, and “likely activate Iran and other foreign terrorist organizations cells abroad including the US to conduct strikes against US persons and facilities,” according to briefing I obtained
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/06/22/trump-has-bombed-iran-what-happens-next-is-his-fault/
Trump Has Bombed Iran. What Happens Next Is His Fault.
….Whatever transpires from this point on is the fault of Donald Trump and the unelected thugs he listens to. If US troops are killed, the war sluts in Washington and the Pentagon propagandists in the press will list their names and bandy about their photos and demand that their deaths be avenged with further acts of war — but it will not be Iran’s fault that they died.
It will be Trump’s fault. It will be the fault of everyone whose decisions led up to bombs being dropped on Iranian energy infrastructure, and the fault of everyone who put those soldiers in harm’s way.
None of this needed to happen. Iran was at the negotiating table. The Iran deal was working fine before Trump shredded it to put us on this terrible trajectory. The warmongers artificially manufactured this situation and knowingly inflicted this horror upon our world.
I am really not looking forward to all the melodramatic victim-LARPing if and when Iran kills US military personnel stationed in west Asia. The US is the only nation on earth that can rival Israel in its ability to play the victim when the ball they’ve thrown at the wall bounces back.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 22 2025 14:02 utc | 252

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 22 2025 13:55 utc | 249
By definition if someone sucker punches you, you didn’t see it coming or were not in a position to defend yourself. So if it doesn’t knock you down or seriously ring your bell, then they can’t fight or throw a decent punch. You proceed to beat the shit out of them, THEN walk away.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:03 utc | 253

If Kamala were President we’d probably have boots on the ground.
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 22 2025 13:55 utc | 249
OMG, that is the most laughable excuse for Trump’s actual actions that I have seen so far!
I remember when people used to say how much of a “warmongering neocon” John McCain was for singing “bomb bomb bomb, bomb-bomb Iran”. Trump actually bombs Iran for real, and people here make excuses for him, still insisting he is the “Peace Preasident”. Absolutely disgusting.

Posted by: Dirk | Jun 22 2025 14:04 utc | 254

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 22 2025 13:26 utc | 230
per bomb bay. it has two.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 22 2025 14:04 utc | 255

If Iran already shot down between 2 and 6 invisible super duper stealthF-35s why would anyone believe the Pentagon would send in lumbering B-2s with gravity/glide bombs ?

Posted by: Exile | Jun 22 2025 14:06 utc | 256

Jesus, these commenters must have the vapors. Those you you posting articles expressing outrage are only discrediting yourselves and your sources. This was all theater, if you sources can’t see that, they’re useless. I particularly love Republican Scot, repeatedly posting the same Ira Ian objection with no link. And getting to read it 3-4 times in the first 100 comments was sure (spam) convenient for those who missed it. Sarah, take some. perspective, good grief. This is theater. Real issues remain. Nothing is resolved between Iran/Israel. Is this the US leaving them to fight it out? Maybe this is a double cross. We’re 36-48 hours in the Bibi getting fragged question. Miriam Adleson who took my basketball team from me, seems done with Bibi. I see them lamenting Bibi, a man who just loved Israel too much. OMG, and he did what? oh my, we never knew.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 22 2025 14:09 utc | 257

Posted by: Exile | Jun 22 2025 14:06 utc | 257
Not only that but it would take 3 of them and only 20 exist. Laughable story we were fed.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:09 utc | 258

Theres no evidence Iran has shot down any Israeli planes other than drones

Posted by: Sonar | Jun 22 2025 14:09 utc | 259

michaelj72 | Jun 22 2025 13:08 utc | 219
Thanks michael for providing information, you are a great contributor in the ‘bar’.
Your link to the destruction of the highly secretive bio/chem research facility makes me think that the facility may be destroyed, but the minds of the researches are still alive and well.
Israelis are smarter and are assassinating the Iranian researchers. And not only the researchers scientists, engineers;
As in Palestine, they are killing the best minds, the best poets, the intellectuals. This is pure evil and pure jealousy of potential IQ rivalry. Pre-emptive intellectual, DNA war if you will. The Israelis and they brethern all over the world are so proud of their Nobelists (see David Brooks in his NYT column several years ago, I don’t have the link at my fingertips, but one can find it with search engines).

Posted by: fanto | Jun 22 2025 14:13 utc | 260

I bet Trump actually thinks B2 bombers flew in Iranian airspace,too. Lol they could have told him that Black Panther and Iron Man totally destroyed Fordow and made it safely back to Wakanda and he’d have rushed to post it on Truth Social.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:13 utc | 261

The B-2’s over the Pacific seemed unreal to me as I look over the air traffic fairly regularly. I expect to see the tankers. The nitter poster showed what appears now to be a fake ABS-D mockup of the traffic and an SDR recording of ATC traffic which was nice but proved nothing. The whole story appears to have flowed out of Israel and was picked up by everybody. Very effective info warfare.
Just now in the live press conference the Chief said the B-2 boys are flying home. There is zero air tanker traffic anywhere outside the US on the ground ready or in the air.
One strange occurance I saw was an Omani Eurofigher that landed in Iran around the time of the strike. Did the pilot defect or was it an effect of the jamming?
B is corect. Something stinks here. You would only give notice of a strike if you were just using misslies. They would not endanger their flight crews with a prenotice of striking specific targets IMO.
Trump stroked his ego. Israel got a step closer to declaring victory to stop the war of attrition with the Persians until the Zio complex can plan their next moves.

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 22 2025 14:16 utc | 262

An Iranian ballistic missile barrage injured dozens of people in Israel on Sunday morning as nearly 30 projectiles targeted the country, causing widespread destruction to residential areas in Tel Aviv and the central town of Ness Ziona.
An Israeli air defense interceptor, meanwhile, malfunctioned and impacted the northern city of Haifa, causing damage and slightly wounding three people. No sirens had sounded in the city during the incident.
The Health Ministry reported that among those who arrived at hospitals were two in moderate condition, 77 in good condition, four victims suffering from acute anxiety, and three more people who were undergoing medical evaluation and whose condition had not been immediately determined. (…)
“>https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-least-86-wounded-as-iran-launches-two-missile-barrages-at-israel-after-us-strikes/

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 22 2025 14:17 utc | 263

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:13 utc | 262 “‘I bet Trump actually thinks B2 bombers flew in Iranian airspace,too.”
Why wouldn’t they? After a week of the IDF messing up the Iranian air defenses it should be be safer than a week earlier.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 22 2025 14:18 utc | 264

https://nypost.com/2025/06/22/world-news/iran-orders-closure-of-strait-of-hormuz-putting-one-fifth-of-worlds-oil-supply-at-risk/
I still bet it doesn’t happen. Pending religious authority approval.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:19 utc | 265

It seems many “liberals” got exactly what they wanted and are now shedding tears befitting a man-eating crocodile. Nice
Just last week Mister Dumbass picked up the poll-tested DNC phrase for Trump, calling him a cunt->Taco for backing away from wars. Nice. Then our host started calling Trump a cunt->Taco for being unwilling to go to war. Here’s a glimpse of the DNC/”liberals” hypocrisy on full display:
Democratic Party Leader Chuck Schumer is now calling for a vote on the War Powers Act…Shumer’s indignation rings hollow as it comes just a few weeks after he taunted Trump over reports he was pursuing a diplomatic solution. Using the acronym for “Trump Always Chickens Out,” Schumer tweeted “If TACO Trump is already folding on Iran, the American people need to know about that. No side deals.
I’m disgusted with Trump’s words/actions of the past couple of weeks and I’m just as disgusted that DNC operatives here and elsewhere helped Netanyahu taunt Trump into Israel’s war. Fortunately, even though Trump/”liberals” are off their respective rockers, sanity remains within MAGA:
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), who recently introduced a bipartisan War Powers Resolution aimed at prohibiting “unauthorized U.S. military hostilities in the Islamic Republic of Iran,” voiced sharp criticism of the Trump administration following the strikes. Posting on X, Massie wrote, “This is not Constitutional.”

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 22 2025 14:19 utc | 266

Iran says it evacuated personnel and material from Fordo and sat pics confirm such activity. The US knew this, so why attack it with expensive and rare kit? There are some indications that they did though. If true then the Iranians, Russians, and Chinese can get clear BDA from the use of Americas ‘super bomb’. Fordo was specifically built to resist such attacks, so interesting data to be had. I also read that the enterance tunnels had been filled to minimize bomb damage.

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 22 2025 14:20 utc | 267

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 22 2025 14:18 utc | 265
Read all the above. Then look at a map. Then look at the alleged pictures of “bunker buster” impacts. They didn’t.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:21 utc | 268

Putting comments re: the current Administration aside, consider ‘how we got here’.
1. Hillary Clinton supplied Iran with uranium to enrich their nuclear program.
2. Barack Obama gave Iran $17 billion that they used to fund their nuclear program.
3. Joe Biden unfroze over $16 billion of funds for Iran.
We may not know what Iran did with these ‘gifts’, but I am sure ‘intelligence’ exists. I suspect there is much more here than we know (have been told)

Posted by: msIdaho | Jun 22 2025 14:24 utc | 269

“Democratic Party Leader Chuck Schumer is now calling for a vote on the War Powers Act…Shumer’s indignation rings hollow as it comes just a few weeks after he taunted Trump over reports he was pursuing a diplomatic solution. Using the acronym for “Trump Always Chickens Out,” Schumer tweeted “If TACO Trump is already folding on Iran, the American people need to know about that. No side deals.”
I’m disgusted with Trump’s words/actions of the past couple of weeks and I’m just as disgusted that DNC operatives here and elsewhere helped Netanyahu taunt Trump into Israel’s war.”
Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 22 2025 14:19 utc | 267
They are ALL zionists. And fully committed to that, and that alone

Posted by: RP | Jun 22 2025 14:27 utc | 270

oldhippie | Jun 22 2025 13:26 utc | 230
Somebody needs to hire a better copywriter and a better editor.
Yes. The “continuity errors and wardrobe bloopers are huge tells.
From the time I arrived at the bar around 8:30am my time, to now after midnight (and this will be my last post for this marathon session) the number of B2s went from the first report of 2. Then it was 6. Then 9. Now 12.
What was hit. How it was hit. And the initial claim of “Fordow is Gone” to… “maybe we stirred up some dust”…… the narrative has been changed every hour, to accommodate more conflicting info as it’s slowly leaked onto the global internet.
It reminds me very much of the claimed “taking out” of Osama bin Liner.
That narrative changed constantly….
Only liars can’t keep their lies straight….
🎬🛏🛏🛏

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 22 2025 14:29 utc | 271

Now even Tom_Q_Collins is making lame excuses for Trump’s actions. “He didn’t really bomb them, it’s all fake! The US only has 20 B-2 bombers, so it’s mathematically impossible that 3 of them were used to bomb Iran!”

Posted by: Dirk | Jun 22 2025 14:29 utc | 272

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 22 2025 14:19 utc | 267
Dude Chuck Schumer is basically an Israeli.
And if you think this is the end of it and Trump won’t be doing anything else, you’re probably gonna be disappointed within the next month.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:30 utc | 273

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 22 2025 14:16 utc | 263 “The B-2’s over the Pacific seemed unreal to me as I look over the air traffic fairly regularly. I expect to see the tankers.
Why do you expect to see tankers with their transponders off?
And the B-2’s that did the bombing went east, not west. There were 9 spotted by one person who lives in Missouri who saw them and posted on X about it at the time. I saw it at the time but figured all that meant was that they went east for air traffic reasons and then would turn west. The B-2s that went west were there as a distraction. One of the 6 diverted to Hawaii for some reason.
I also thought the count of 9 was goofy as others were saying two flights of 4 and that soon became two flights of 3. I figured all the numbers changing were just people eventually getting the counts right.
Of the 9 that went east, I would guess two were backups in case one of the primaries had to abort for some reason.
One other thing, these aircraft, when they are going to fly long distances, often tank soon after taking off as a check that it’s all working. Not because they are carrying a heavy load.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 22 2025 14:31 utc | 274

Posted by: Dirk | Jun 22 2025 14:29 utc | 273
I see “TDS” is real after all. No, that’s not all I said. They fired cruise missiles from a sub.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:32 utc | 275

This is worth watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45M9q6QnVL0&ab_channel=ConsortiumNews
It’s Scott but there is interesting info in it.

Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 22 2025 14:32 utc | 276

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 22 2025 14:31 utc | 275
Is Missouri a city in Iran?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:33 utc | 277

BM, 115, the Threats of the US and Iran long ago voided any restrictions on Iran under NPT. A nuclear power may not threaten an no. nuclear power and they have a duty to facilitate peaceful nuclear uses. Clearly you’re no lawyer, but any layman can read NPT and see threats by nuclear armed powers against non nuclear powers void any restrictions.

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 22 2025 14:33 utc | 278

Posted by: msIdaho | Jun 22 2025 14:24 utc | 270
You’re full of partisan hasbara bullshit. Try Jpost.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:35 utc | 279

Huge anti-USA-protests in Tehran taking place:
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20758
The Iranian president also showed up:
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20759?single

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 22 2025 14:38 utc | 280

Somebody needs to hire a better copywriter and a better editor.
B-2 carries a maximum payload of 40,000 pounds. GBU-57 weighs 30,000 pounds.
The B-2s over Fordow are said to have carried two GBU-57s each.
This does not add up.
My guess is basically nothing happened. Bad scriptwriting.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 22 2025 13:26 utc | 230
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You and others on MoA have said this before. Some people have short memories. Also, some politicians are bad liars but they don’t have to worry about fact checking, no more than MSM ‘journalists.’

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 22 2025 14:38 utc | 281

And now comes China, from high atop it’s mountain of condemnation letters, to call for cooler heads to keep the Straits open and the oil flowing.

Posted by: chunga | Jun 22 2025 14:38 utc | 282

No matter how the attack took place, in reality they are just bombing as good as empty caves. Same for attacks on other infrastructure.
Key components and material will be stored hidden or well well out of reach.
So at best the attack on facilities is degradation of civilian, and any industrial scale production of weapons material. Neither of those would restrain fabrication of weapons.
So the attack is a pretext to ask for or cause escalation, to take attention from Gaza, for national or international political show and adjustments etc.
Obviously for Iran, well it has just been attacked without clear official reason as to why. Although Iran had and has taken a defiant position, that is not acceptable justification for another country to initiate a war on it.
“Limited strikes” and so on don’t count as “not really war”, why we are sold this idea in various conflict arenas is just attempted avoidance of associated legal obligation which the various countries are signatory to.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 22 2025 14:38 utc | 283

This will further push the incoming generation of leftists towards islamogauchisme in the USA ala European alliance with Muslim activists to put pressure on the Jews and their centers of power to render them less able to influence global affairs.
The USA will rue the day they bombed Iran and radicalized their youth against Israel and the Jewish people.
This is bad, very bad.

Posted by: Fernando Martinez | Jun 22 2025 14:39 utc | 284

For those enraged Trump haters who can’t walk and chew bubblegum at the same time:
https://x.com/ArmchairW/status/1936629818914755029
Which, based on subsequent photos of Fordow and lack of ANY seismic signatures remotely resembling that of a bunker buster, let alone THREE or SIX of them, is exactly what I think actually happened last night. And I think it was still a terrible unconstitutional action worthy of impeachment.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:44 utc | 285

ed4 | Jun 22 2025 14:31 utc | 275
The nitter poster show their transponders on and they would be on for ATC purposes going in and out of heavily traffic areas. Tankers have been regularly moving in large numbers transponder on during this whole event. I am saying everything helping Israel moved west not east. Always have said that.

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 22 2025 14:44 utc | 286

The USA will rue the day they bombed Iran and radicalized their youth against Israel and the Jewish people.
This is bad, very bad.
Posted by: Fernando Martinez | Jun 22 2025 14:39 utc | 285
It’s very, very good.
To restore the equilibrium of power, sometimes you need to weight the other extreme …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 22 2025 14:45 utc | 287

circumspect | Jun 22 2025 14:44 utc | 287
I mean East not West.

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 22 2025 14:47 utc | 288

Oh, we live in truly crazy times. State terrorism in the full sense of the word, banditry and lawlessness (all this is about three most aggressive and dangerous countries for the world – Ukraine, USA, Israel) have become the so-called ‘new normal’. And the world calmly watches this, essentially doing nothing.
Impunity breeds permissiveness, more and more and more.

Posted by: alaff | Jun 22 2025 14:47 utc | 289

Typical from the USA’s minion.
“If Iran attacks the United States, it will be considered an attack on a NATO member country,” – 10 Downing Street”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 22 2025 14:49 utc | 290

⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇷🇨🇳 Breaking:The USA are now asking China to convince Iran to avoid closing down the straits of Hormuz, according to US Secretary of State Rubio.

usa now begging china.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 22 2025 14:50 utc | 291

Although it’s a side issue currently, as for though who wonder about Iranian AD, they have been hit fairly hard in the Western Iran to date, though I’d still think there would need to be internal consent to allow multiple B-2 to reach Fordow.

Posted by: Call it what u will | Jun 22 2025 14:52 utc | 292

Exterior damage to the nuclear facilities in Iran.
“New Satellite Images show 6 munition entry holes/craters on the top of a ridge right above the underground complex at Fordow.
Large craters caused by the US strikes can be seen on the ridge above the underground complex.”
https://nitter.poast.org/GlobeWarReport/status/1936757531684241507#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 22 2025 14:52 utc | 293

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1936795926267596995
The U.S. is urging China to pressure Iran not to close the Strait of Hormuz, Rubio told Fox News.

Posted by: guest | Jun 22 2025 14:53 utc | 294

Posted by: Fernando Martinez | Jun 22 2025 14:39 utc | 285
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, Fernie the Zionist. You seem late to the party. Almost 2 years of ive streamed genocide, destroying the First Amendment, and videos of Jews celebrating both is what radicalized the youth against the Jews and Israel.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 22 2025 14:55 utc | 295

This* is what I wrote last Wednesday, I have some details wrong but, it’s holding up better than the manure DNC/”liberals” were spreading with the Trump is a Cunt->TACO because he always backs away from a war meme.
*”I’m guessing but…
Based on the very cold reaction of the public; there’s a lot of propagandizing to do:
1]Only 16% of Americans support the US striking/[going to war] with Iran;
2]In spite of the shit-talk at MOA by the blue-no-matter-who-crowd, only 19% of Trump-voters support the US striking/[going to war] with Iran;
3]And only 23% of hardcore Republican support the US striking/[going to war] with Iran.
Not much to work with.
Traditionally, false-flag incidents are performed during the week-end because it’s easier to manipulate the media message when the vast majority of well heeled/”respected” media folks are out of town. Since Langley has within it a special group dedicated to the needs of Israel..coordinating a false-flag is a streamlined process…this week-end would seem the likely time for such an event.
Some Israelis or…US Servicemen might have to be sacrificed to fulfill Israel’s needs. After what we witnessed on 07 Oct 2023 it’s clear that Netanyahu doesn’t mind breaking a few eggs to make an omelette but, I suspect this case will require the sacrifice of US servicemen by Langley. Like a modern day Caligula, US-3LAs have been shown to have no moral qualms in killing their countrymen, particularly, those who serve their country, after all they signed up to risk their lives for country…somebody has to pay the butchers bill?
So, the real question is, have they cooked something up, is it good enough to change the dynamic now unfolding? Should a false-flag not occur this weekend, that would be good news as it would mean the 3LAs residing in Jerusalem/London/DC were caught off-guard by the polling that showed that this war needs a lot “special-sauce” to make it palatable to the masses…as I recall the Gulf of Tonkin started on what was a Saturday evening in DC, [a Sunday morning in Viet Nam] and ran it’s course until Monday PM.
Past being precedence I would guess that this week-end..or possibly next would be the next stage of this Israeli/Israeli-American project. Hopefully, this false-flag lacks the required planning and turns into a fiasco for those bent on wars of aggression. But, as they say, hope is not a plan

The picture is not quite clear yet but, I suspect that this is similar to Trumps 2017 Shayrat missile strike. Do I know? No and neither do all the experts on this board who post so often but are routinely proven wrong. I’ll be looking at Russia’s action for clues. Finally, if B-2s were actually used, there was, in all likelihood a permissive environment, I say that because while it’s concievable they could get in without loss, it’s very, very, very hard to believe they could lumber their way back out without hull losses sans some form of permission.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 22 2025 14:56 utc | 296

Justpassinby (292).
Not mention this.
“Britain’s UKMTO says heavy GPS jamming in the Strait of Hormuz”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 22 2025 14:56 utc | 297

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 22 2025 13:51 utc | 246
Some noted as I did that payload of b2 is not enough to support the idea that it can carry 2 MOP.
Maybe they carried 1 MOP and 1 MOAB, not shure if this is even possible, or that they carried only MOABs or even that they never join in the attack.
Other real strange thing is the use of sub missiles, that shure do not have the penetrating power to do the job.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 22 2025 14:56 utc | 298

Here’s the original claim of 9 B2s heading EAST….
@Faytuks
We have a new “helicopter hovering above Abbottabad” tweet.
🇺🇲David Shayani🪖
@shayadave
Jun 21
Replying to @SpeckleBelly64
I counted 9 B2’S fly over my house. Warsaw Missouri. Heading due east.
Unknown Traveler 🇺🇸
@nothanksfrankie
14h
Replying to @shayadave @SpeckleBelly64
David, your eye witness report is the only one that got the real number of aircraft involved correct. Great catch!
Replying to @nothanksfrankie @shayadave @SpeckleBelly64
Where did you hear 9 were used?
Only 6 MOPs dropped, only requires 3.
Unknown Traveler 🇺🇸
@nothanksfrankie
12h
Replying to @HML_Compounder @shayadave @SpeckleBelly64
He’s not stating 9 aircraft were used in the attack. He’s stating he witnessed nine in the air a short distance away from Whiteman AFB after take off last night heading east. At this time, it appears three were involved, and one has landed in Hawaii earlier around 1140am.
@Faytuks has links and graphics.
The tweet thread here:
https://nitter.net/Faytuks/status/1936763966048424285
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Done. Out.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 22 2025 14:58 utc | 299

FROM A LARRY C JOHNSON PIECE – It is highly unlikely that the US has delivered a crippling blow to Iran.
If anything, the US has now provided the hardliners more ammunition for Iran to do the very thing that Trump claims he is trying to prevent… build a nuke.
There is a lot of political theatre going on in Washington.
Have you heard any word of the Bushehr nuclear reactor?
Notice that not one word is being said about the Bushehr nuclear powerplant. Not one. Why? Because the Russians are there and that is the only place in Iran that is protected by a Russian-supplied S-400.
Russia explicitly warned Washington and Jerusalem that any attack on that facility would be considered an attack on Russia.
Oh, by the way, Russia also is building two additional nuclear powerplants in Iran and neither of them has been touched either.
Maybe Iran’s next step is to contract with Russia and China to rebuild and restore the nuclear facilities that have been attacked.

Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Jun 22 2025 14:58 utc | 300