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June 21, 2025
Tic-Toc No. 7 On The War On Iran
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This is beginning to look a lot like the the Great Ukrainian Summer Offensive of 2023 which was announced months in advance and …. mysteriously failed because the opponent was prepared.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 21 2025 18:32 utc | 201
Loose lips sink ships – or in this case give the US attack on Iran away.
“Israeli PM Netanyahu has asked his Minister’s to remain tight lipped for the next few days.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 21 2025 18:29 utc | 202–
Some days ago Iran showed pictures taken by Isreal Surveillance cameras. I’m quite curious how deep this infiltration might go.
Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 21 2025 18:35 utc | 202
see the 1:10 video at the first link
see the 1:13 video at the third/fourth link. “…just like the latest Top Gun movie”
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1936476094565392730
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
This must be known.
Iran is fighting against multiple adversaries.
https://x.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1935783619655504224
Dmitry Medvedev @MedvedevRussiaE
Everyone, even the Israeli defense minister, with his loud declaration about Khamenei’s fate, must understand that attacks on nuclear facilities are extremely dangerous and can lead to a repeat of the Chernobyl tragedy.
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https://x.com/aaronjmate/status/1936446290197348721
Aaron Maté @aaronjmate
My favorite part is when the giddy Fox News guy mockingly refers to others’ “propaganda”:
https://x.com/mtracey/status/1936432509526356324
Michael Tracey @mtracey
Fox News has shifted to explaining to audiences how bombing Iran will be easy, fun, and entertaining. Weekend host Joey Jones says bombing the underground nuclear site will be just like the latest Top Gun movie
Recall… Fox News weekend host is the most recent job qualification of the current Secretary of Defense
https://x.com/mtracey/status/1936469794842128448
Memories: former Fox News weekend host Pete Hegseth calls for Trump to bomb Iran during his first term:
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 21 2025 18:36 utc | 203
“The puppet shah is being briefed – to see if he’ll take over the running of Iran.
“Fox News confirms that US Congress leaders are now in direct talks with Exiled Crown Prince of Iran Reza Pahlavi and representatives of various Pro-Monarchy Iranian group”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 21 2025 18:12 utc | 184 ”
Dreams of the good old days of Savak and the “World’s Largest, Most Extravagant Party” with Trump as the Guest of Honor. The CIA at its dirtiest revenge.
Posted by: kupkee | Jun 21 2025 18:36 utc | 204
Tulsi’s rapid about face cave-in, the CIA now echoing Mossad’s BS about the Iranian nuclear program, DTRA saying a “nuke” (no clue if ‘tactical’ or otherwise) would be needed to shut down Fordow, Bannon’s comment (see below), Michael Hudson’s analysis, all combine to tell me it’s just a matter of time (within 2 weeks) before Trump gives the orders.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/michael-hudson-why-america-is-at-war-with-iran.html
Meeting today: https://x.com/thelevantsource/status/1936251805568246114
⚡️#BREAKING: U.S. President Donald Trump to attend National Security Team Meeting tomorrow in Situation “War” Room tomorrow at 6:00 PM Eastern in the White House to discuss Iran-Israel War and potential U.S. involvement.
“… some argue it would be too close to dawn in Iran, not optimal time for air strikes…”
Bannon is warning that he got word to ”party on” this weekend.
Larry Johnson: “Despite Donald Trump’s statement that he’ll make his decision about attacking Iran within two weeks, I don’t think he is going to delay. From my contacts within the US military, all signs indicate that we’re on-the-luge (a fast snow sled) at this point and there’s no way to get off. We are hurtling downhill… too much is already in motion. Even if Trump decides tomorrow to call everything off, we’ve already set up and committed enough support assets so that the Israeli Defense Force has everything it needs. Reversing course seems very unlikely now because of bureaucratic momentum. I hope that I am wrong and, when the dust finally settles, you can accuse me of being a nervous Nellie instead of a Cassandra.”
Seems as though the writing is on the wall. I guess we’ll see.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 21 2025 18:36 utc | 205
it seems Iran could destroy any available landing spaces for an American assault. Is that not plausible? hitting Carriers seems easier than sinking one, but a deck hit could really screw up that runway. The PBandarAB could easily the torn up, not sure Israel has an airbase, and hitting Cyprus airfield could be easily done by drone.
I understand an airfield can be quickly repaired, but not quickly enough to get those thirsty planes down.
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 18:38 utc | 206
Trump is the puppet of a section of the US capitalist oligarchy, and it seems that the oligarchy stepped back from the precipice this week at the prospect of the utter chaos that would be unleashed by a full scale attack upon Iran. The Zionist oligarchs are of course pushing hard for US involvement, but the larger oligarchy views Israel as just a tool of US imperialism and is loath to sacrifice its own power to rescue Israel from the consequences of its own criminal actions.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 21 2025 16:19 utc | 74
Are you sure you’re not positing a separation of oligarchical factions that doesn’t really exist, that the “2 weeks” in not just Trump’s typically crass declaration that this is the amount of time the US needs to prepare? If there really were more power factions in the mix, I’d think we’d be hearing a lot more squacking from Congress. So far, in the government itself, only Tulsi has squeaked, and only briefly. I’m not sure either way on this, but time will tell. I’m the proverbial cat on a small perch above a kennel of pit bulls, right now.
Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 21 2025 18:42 utc | 207
Dreams of the good old days of Savak and the “World’s Largest, Most Extravagant Party” with Trump as the Guest of Honor. The CIA at its dirtiest revenge.
Posted by: kupkee | Jun 21 2025 18:36 utc | 207
I’m willing to bet big that he has zero chance to be the next Savak Shah.
The Iranians should convince him to lead them to a better world and then when he lands give him the Aquino Plane Landing treatment.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 18:43 utc | 208
Senior Iranian official to Al Jazeera:
🔺 Dimona nuclear reactor could be a legitimate target if the war escalates
🔺 Our strikes on Israeli targets are very effective, and the Israeli army is keeping this as a secret.
🔺 We have more advanced missiles than we have used so far, and we will undoubtedly use them.
🔺 IRGC has precise knowledge of Israel’s stockpile of interceptor missiles.
🔺 The armed forces are designing their strikes to deplete Israel’s stockpile of interceptor missiles.
🔺 America’s entry to Israeli war means the war will take on regional dimensions
🔺 Targeting US bases in the region is easier than striking deep inside occupied Palestine.
🔺 We seriously warn America that entering the war will seriously endanger its interests in West Asia
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 21 2025 18:44 utc | 209
o far, in the government itself, only Tulsi has squeaked, and only briefly.
Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 21 2025 18:42 utc | 210
I’m thinking that Tulsi was doing her part in the Big Plan to put the Iranians to sleep.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 18:47 utc | 210
I understand an airfield can be quickly repaired, but not quickly enough to get those thirsty planes down.
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 18:38 utc | 209–
This could become a problem for Diego Garcia, too. Iran has the means.
Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 21 2025 18:47 utc | 211
Iran issues BLUNT warning — sending aid to Israel means you’re PART of conflict
Military aid now ‘legitimate target’
Claims to have DESTROYED Israel’s radar and defense systems
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 21 2025 18:47 utc | 212
Posted by: dearieme | Jun 21 2025 18:22 utc | 196
“Blowing holes in sepoys with cannons was retaliation for sepoys doing the same thing to British prisoners.”
Go back further: “sepoys doing the same thing to British prisoners.” was retaliation for multiple minor and major atrocities by British soldiers, (don’t bother mentioning the cartridges, in case you are tempted).
Go back all the way to the EIC taking over or subverting Indian kingdoms in pursuit of commercial interests – a.k.a. ‘greed’
And no more on this – it’s beside the question, which is Iran.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 18:48 utc | 213
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 21 2025 18:14 utc | 190
I don’t assume that yet. I’ve seen they’ve announced they arrested dozens, disrupted a few plots and bombs, caught a few at the border trying to leave, and that dozen or so actually headed the call to turn themselves in, before the deadline. Taking that at face value it’s a start, but no doubt there are a unknown # of more still out there, maybe hundreds. What’s being fired today, idk reporting has been kinda quiet\muted at bit today on both ends.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 18:49 utc | 214
well, there are not interests against war, only the vast majority of American voters. I’m sure posting “Israel out of our government and media”. I trust it will resonate more and more
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 18:49 utc | 215
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 21 2025 18:44 utc | 212
Iran will have plenty of time TO SEE THE INCOMING ARMADA. Iran is not a tiny state like Izrahell.
When they do, all will be on the target list. Even oil fields if it is connected with the MBS Saudi Kingdom.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 18:50 utc | 216
Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 21 2025 18:47 utc | 214
Yeah. And if the reports of 4+ F-35’s shot down are true, then the chances of US B-2/21 bombers getting anywhere near a target is zilch. How embarrassing of a few of them (at XXX billion a pop) were shot down.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 18:52 utc | 217
I see Putin’s well explained position has upset everyone who wanted it and Putin to be something else. Those people need to ask themselves why so many were at the SPIEF. Perhaps they judge Putin to be more mature and wiser than the vast majority. Commentators dislike Putin because he doesn’t share their hatred of the Zionists but don’t try to understand the constitutional issues Putin must deal with–that’s a very common problem I’ve seen here that most always dismiss.
The geopolitical issues in play are extremely large: essentially one actor–The Outlaw US Empire–is in conflict with the vast majority of the planet’s people and those people are being led by Vladimir Putin, seconded by Xi Jinping and dozens of other powers small and large. The most important cards are held by the Global Majority. Sure, the Empire’s Zionists and their allies have nukes, which is their only card. So, what if they use them? What will their future be? Those inhabiting Occupied Palestine have shown what their level of loyalty is–or isn’t. They are voting for continuing life with their feet. What did the Zionist government do? It turned Occupied Palestine into a giant Concentration Camp for Zionists and Palestinians. As Wolff and Hudson remarked in their recent chat with Nima, this is the last vestige of Colonialism, and to Putin’s credit he spoke to that problem five times during his SPIEF remarks. The Global Majority has expressed that Era is no longer to be tolerated and continued. And Neocolonialism is at the basis of the attack on Iran.
Iran will have plenty of time TO SEE THE INCOMING ARMADA. Iran is not a tiny state like Izrahell.
When they do, all will be on the target list. Even oil fields if it is connected with the MBS Saudi Kingdom.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 18:50 utc | 219–
What about some drones harassing the armada over intl waters? Like Russia did with the ISR drone over the Black Sea?
Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Jun 21 2025 18:56 utc | 219
Even if the B2’s are headed to Guam and from there to attack Iran there is no way for them not to be picked by Chinese radar in flight.
The Chinese are sure to give the Iranians advance notice. Even if they go to Diego Garcia the Chinese through their high tech spy ships they sent to the Persian Gulf after the start of the conflict with Israel will too be able to give Iran advance notice.
The most telegraphed “stealth” bombing in history.
Posted by: Down South | Jun 21 2025 19:00 utc | 220
Posted by: Down South | Jun 21 2025 19:00 utc | 223
It also seems pretty easy to track the movement of these planes with open source Internet sites, at least so far.
Question: If the US does send B2s or whatever else from Diego Garcia toward Iran, would they be able to thwart OS tracking? Like turn off all transponders? Would that be enough?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 21 2025 19:04 utc | 221
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 21 2025 18:53 utc | 221
“It turned Occupied Palestine into a giant Concentration Camp for Zionists and Palestinians”
The problem with that is that opportunities and living conditions were kind of different for each group. As for Putin, while I am convinced that he is a very smart guy, his deference to Israeli’s who are Russian speakers somewhat pales behind the reality that I am pretty sure that these people are Israelis first of all, and Russians a good long way behind. It has recently been admitted by Israel that they have actively helped the Ukraine. Where does that leave ‘Russian ethnic Israelis’? Pro Russian? Doubtful.
Usually I am very adverse to posters who condemn Putin for being less forceful than they wish him to be, but I’m starting to have my own doubts.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 19:05 utc | 222
“Death in June”? What a weird f-ing rabbit hole of ’80s nilhism. Yeah “tik-tok, but really?
Posted by: the pessimist
https://youtu.be/5oTUI9VGue0
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 21 2025 19:05 utc | 223
The most telegraphed “stealth” bombing in history.
Posted by: Down South | Jun 21 2025 19:00 utc | 223
Indeed. It’s almost as though it’s all kayfabe.
The Orange One calls it off, gets his Nobel prize, memcoins to the moon.
As for Israel: ‘I like munny. I’m sorry.’
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 21 2025 19:06 utc | 224
Multiple islands? That is too generous. If they ask nicely we might consider allowing settlers at Bouvetøya, assuming they are able to survive the boat landing and: No more grenade throwing towards our embassy.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 21 2025 18:25 utc | 198
Well, maybe the main island (Grand Terre, which itself is bigger than the West Bank, so they could not complain that we are not generous enough!), and on the other smaller islands we install watchtowers with AI-powered, remote controlled machine guns (Smart Shooters) in the same way they do currently in the West Bank…just to be sure…
“There, be a good boy, sit, stay!”
Posted by: jure | Jun 21 2025 19:07 utc | 225
When they do, all will be on the target list. Even oil fields if it is connected with the MBS Saudi Kingdom.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 18:50 utc | 219–
If you’re a Jew, you have to be incredibly grateful for this kind of mindset. Iran is going to close the Strait, destroy the Aramco fields, and attack the bases because America is aiding Israel! What’re ya going to do about it, Drumph?!
Russia doesn’t want that. China certainly doesn’t want that. A lot of their behavior makes sense if you think they’re cutting Iran loose. Even the notion that Pakistan will retaliate is an empty threat: the past month has made it very clear India would love a pretext to fry Pakistan. So what is likely to happen?
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 21 2025 19:08 utc | 226
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 21 2025 17:34 utc | 151
Thank you, karlof1! Welcome back, and safe travels on! I posted back on a past thread that I managed to see a fragment of this amazing conference on youtube – only a fragment and the translator was having trouble keeping up. But it was wonderful to see at least some of the back and forth while having at least a partial translation. Now you have given us a better translation of at least a part!
I would love to see exactly the translation of words said when Putin gave his reply quoting Scripture (sort of): ‘ Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…’ I think he said ‘at me’ which is lovely. (I have been following that message on the latest Open thread, just to give the Russian way of thinking a chance to be considered, though of course what you do is best!)
Posted by: juliania | Jun 21 2025 19:08 utc | 227
Sayyed Khamenei responds to Netanyahu’s statements:
“Life to me is not even worth the value of these glasses. Our blood is not more precious than the blood of our martyrs. We are ready…!”
✍️ Khamenei’s message to Netanyahu: Prepare yourself.
https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1936470690233749916
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“Kill me, the war won’t end.”
— Ayatollah Khamenei
“I’m old, my body is weak. But this fight isn’t mine — it belongs to Iran’s youth. You’re not fighting a man, but a nation defending its dignity.”
The West fears an Iran with power, not because it threatens peace —
But because it threatens their monopoly on it.
https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/1936473971597435381
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 19:08 utc | 228
Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 21 2025 19:06 utc | 227
I like the scenario – I just hope its true!
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 19:09 utc | 229
“Death in June”? What a weird f-ing rabbit hole of ’80s nilhism. Yeah “tik-tok, but really
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 21 2025 19:05 utc | 226
Uh… Death In June was a Nazi neo-folk band. What does this relate to?
Posted by: Tichy | Jun 21 2025 19:11 utc | 230
Posted by: Spanish Pipedream | Jun 21 2025 16:06 utc | 55 “Given that the B-2’s targets are well known to all of the parties in this conflict and defences could be being held back in anticipation of US involvement, would anyone be surprised to see losses amongst them?”
Low probability, after all how many manned IDF aircraft have see seen shot down? But certainly greater than 0.
The maximum distance from the target the weapon can be dropped that I have seen is 40 miles.
Note that there have been programs since 2011 to replace it. I don’t know if those programs actually produced anything.
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 21 2025 19:13 utc | 231
@ Roger Boyd 74
Interesting post but I disagree with the idea that American oligarcs can ‘ditch’ Israel.
Apart from the fact many have direct connections with Israel via dual citizenship, the fact is Congress and the Senate are 90% plus owned by AIPAC. If the US attempted to leave Israel to struggle (and die) on its own would provoke the Israel lobby to pull out all the stopps to prevent such a decision being made. They would threaten every sitting politician with all out support for rival candidates, at the next election. Bear in mind there is no party allegiance for them – only Israel matters.
Moreover in such an existential struggle that Israel would find itself in, all the ‘Kompromat’ that Mossad has, would be used for sure.
JB
Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jun 21 2025 19:13 utc | 232
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 21 2025 18:36 utc | 208
What I wondered\worried about that days ago when I still thought there was a chance to slow this down. My concern way the sheer amount of gear headed to the theater suggested a decision had been made minus the final order, moving this much stuff has a way of taking on momentum and pressure of it’s own to give that final order no matter what the initial intent of the moves. Though I’m under no illusions about intent, pesky voters pleas to sanity be damned as usual.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 18:47 utc | 213
Could be, given how it played out it would fit right in with the diplomacy deception game.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 19:15 utc | 233
The problem with that is that opportunities and living conditions were kind of different for each group. As for Putin, while I am convinced that he is a very smart guy, his deference to Israeli’s who are Russian speakers somewhat pales behind the reality that I am pretty sure that these people are Israelis first of all, and Russians a good long way behind. It has recently been admitted by Israel that they have actively helped the Ukraine. Where does that leave ‘Russian ethnic Israelis’? Pro Russian? Doubtful.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 19:05 utc | 225
You pose good questions and I haven’t the faintest idea what Game Putin is playing. But I think one things is fairy certain , “Russia First” is in Putin’s actions.
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Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 21 2025 19:08 utc | 229
If I was Iran I would look at the size of the armada.
Huge, I go full in.
Small, give the Zionist a good tonage to make rebuilding rather long and expensive.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 19:16 utc | 234
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 21 2025 19:04 utc | 224
Of course they will turn out the transponder but it depends on their real stealthiness if they show in radar or not.
Posted by: Mario | Jun 21 2025 19:17 utc | 235
In response to my “tik tok, tik tok” post (as we sit here waiting for the other shoe to drop – or not) Lex T posted a link to “Death in June Tik Tok”, so yeah, wtf?
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 21 2025 19:18 utc | 236
the pessimist | Jun 21 2025 19:18 utc | 239
referring to:
Tichy | Jun 21 2025 19:11 utc | 233
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 21 2025 19:21 utc | 237
kupkee (207)
Lets no forget Trump will have his golf course resort – in one of the swankiest parts of the country after the puppet shah is installed – I suppose he’s also already picked out his golf resort in Gaza overlooking the Med.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 21 2025 19:24 utc | 238
Judge Barbier, you need to familiarize yourself with the fate of the French Algerians. AIPAC may be a commemorative organization as soon as Ben Gurion opens. Clearly, you’re ignorant of history. Remember the Confederate Air Force! Remember Israel!
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 19:24 utc | 239
The movie “A Bridge Too Far” it has so many lessons about hubris, the dangers of over-complexity, and the ability of the failure of “little things” to undermine the whole, that Western planners and elites need to take to heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6O8rLXB7Qg
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Jun 21 2025 16:19 utc | 74
Blocked here due to copyright violations.
Watch it here instead: https://ok.ru/video/5076965460678
Posted by: George the Zeroth | Jun 21 2025 19:25 utc | 240
🔹@enemywatch
Posted by: JB
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Always some obvious mistranslstions with this group. See about using a non-genocider source
Posted by: Exile | Jun 21 2025 19:26 utc | 241
Judge Barbier | Jun 21 2025 19:13 utc | 235
Not only would they be threatened, all the compromising video would be released of their visits to Israel and what happened with the nubile guides they were assigned.
“Remember girl, this may seem sordid, even degrading, but remember you are doing this for Israel !”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 21 2025 19:30 utc | 242
would Israel accept an end of occupation and Palestinian statehood?
The Algerian option is the only option. Total existential destruction, gotta pop the bubble (it’s already happened). Foreign connected Israelis are leaking out, pretty soon you realize all the Zionists have left and it’s a Halal hoedown! can I get a “uuuuuu-eeee? ‘
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 19:32 utc | 243
“Remember girl, this may seem sordid, even degrading, but remember you are doing this for Israel !”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 21 2025 19:30 utc | 245
Ha ha ha …
I bet it is just like that.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 19:34 utc | 244
yet another, the compromat only shows how craven the Zionist are. The West may soon become very hostile to Zionists. “Look what you made us help you do!!!”
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 19:34 utc | 245
Could be, given how it played out it would fit right in with the diplomacy deception game.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 19:15 utc | 236
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Who is going to be deceived?
These sort of comments, which I read everywhere, sounds like a lot of cope. No one is going to negotiate with America. He has left himself no choices. He has to use force overtly. No one is willing to listen to him and it is all his fault.
Trump has destroyed ALL diplomatic credibility for America.
Trump is not making choices for peace. Trump is losing support among his base. Trump’s 2 weeks is a manifestation of TACO.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 19:35 utc | 246
would Israel accept an end of occupation and Palestinian statehood?
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 19:32 utc | 246
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No. There is another option. The destruction of Israel.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 19:36 utc | 247
A “side story” but important element to the picture faced in potential wider conflict is production of nitrogen fertilisers, which are now necessary to maintain levels of food production worldwide. I will just reel out back of envelope iirc from what I have just been reading …which was prompted by a question in last thread, and something I needed to refresh on.
Most nitrogen fertiliser is produced from natural gas. China also uses gasified coal. US, China and Russia are pretty much self sufficient and/or exporters. India and Africa are dependent on primary material imports, or finished product imports.
Short is that Egypt made up production for Africa, now:
“CAIRO (Reuters) -Egyptian fertilizer producers were forced to halt operations on Friday due to a drop in natural gas imports from Israel, industry sources told Reuters.
They said major Israeli gas fields had suspended operations following Israel’s military strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities and missile factories.
In response, an emergency plan was enacted prioritising gas allocations…”
Rise in fertiliser prices is transferred to consumer, but the point being that major disruption in supplies of nat gas might play havoc with food security for various nations. This is studied and known, with possible famines etc.
To calculate how resources might be affected or redistributed is too complex, I suppose looking at how much lng the middle east produces as share of world might give an idea.
20% via Hormuz or 29% MENA are figure in quick search.
Point being again, there is not much margin for utilisation of lng share not going towards fertiliser production being put to that use, especially not within a shorter timeframe.
An example of the sorts of upheaval regional conflict might cause.
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 21 2025 19:37 utc | 248
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1936285622064582990
Patarames @Pataramesh
People want 🇮🇷🇮🇱 insights.
Let me give them some:
➡️ In the first week of OTP-III Iran’s primary goal was to degrade Israel’s air- and missile defenses
– By forcing ripple launches against single high-speed 🇮🇷 missiles
( I observed up to 14 against a single missile)
1/5
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1936285632499957800
– by hitting high-end sensor elements like the X-band AN/TPY-2 radars
➡️ Which in turn disables 🇮🇱 capability to identify and discriminate between real targets and decoys, but most importantly; avoid wasting interceptors on empty spent 1st stage boosters which come behind them
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1936285644088824004
If Iran manages to deplete 🇮🇱’s interceptor inventory, it will not only cause a 2-digit billion $$$ financial loss
➡️ An Israel which can’t defend against ballistic-missiles can’t continue a war for long and will have a very bad negotiation position at a future table
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1936285657598771710
Once Israel’s missile defenses are exhausted, Iran can start to use more accurate missiles with lower terminal speed.
➡️ Current missile have to be very fast ones to lure interceptors launches. This reduces accuracy
➡️ Hence airbases the basis for 🇮🇱 airpower will be targeted
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 21 2025 19:39 utc | 249
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 18:52 utc | 220
A week later we are lacking any conclusive evidence imho of those reports, and by now you would think for shear media games at least one’s wreckage would be well photographed for the cameras, or more details provided about the where and when of each, that have not been. Plus that captured pilot story seemed to disappear by Tuesday. Now as for drones being shot down, plenty of evidence, but not on the manned aircraft. Not that it matters but on the 35’s it xxx millions not billions, about 100m a piece.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 19:39 utc | 250
@Ornot
One of the topics the Bilderbergers discussed last week in Stockholm was “Depopulation”.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 21 2025 19:40 utc | 251
@238
Everything about the B-2 was classified. Including the field test.
Suppose there was a sound reason to kill the buy at 21?
I think the B-2 failed a critical feature, could it be too easy to detect with 1990’s sensors?
I doubt it was killed bc it breaks a lot.
B-2 has a very good ground target radar, better than the fighter bombers who have but smaller “packages “. Turn on that radar and you are seen.
So none of them are going launcher hunting which is hard and never done well. See hunting Saddam launcher in 1991.
Posted by: paddy | Jun 21 2025 19:42 utc | 252
@ Scottindallas 242
The comparison is not valid – the colonial French/Algerians in no way had the power that Aipac and the wider Israeli lobby has right now in the US. Moreover they have significant support in the Christian evangelist community and if you want any more evidence look at te backgrounds of all the hedge funds oligarchs in the US. They alone will not let the US walk away.
The bright light on the horizon is that their ( Aipac) power is fading, as younger generations do not share the same Israel first mentality.
JB
Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jun 21 2025 19:42 utc | 253
One of the topics the Bilderbergers discussed last week in Stockholm was “Depopulation”.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 21 2025 19:40 utc | 254
All is fine. Covid-19 Op worked
https://x.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1935566782682517834
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 19:42 utc | 254
If Iran is “winning,” there is zero reason to stop until concessions are made.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 21 2025 16:21 utc | 76
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According to Mahmood (translating a speech of a senior or maybe retired Iranian general), this is in fact the Iranian strategy/plan/policy: “Punish the child killers until they cry “uncle!”
And maybe keep going after that.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Re “concessions,” who will guarantee them, and with what?
Treachery has always been in the war picture since humans walked the earth. That is why chieftains used to exchange their first-born to encourage keeping promises.
I suggest that Barron Trump be sent to Tehran to guarantee any deals Iran makes with the USA. He might actually turn out to be an excellent “goodwill ambassador.” He seems to have gained a huge following in the USA.
Posted by: Jane | Jun 21 2025 19:44 utc | 255
“Who is going to be deceived?”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 19:35 utc | 249
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The comment was about about the attempt to deceive from March+, not the future.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 19:44 utc | 256
Iran Earthquake Update; Nuclear Test? Geologist Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6odOCN1nw
Spoiler: no
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 21 2025 19:48 utc | 257
We’re past the point of no return. You can’t negotiate what Trump does. You can’t negotiate what Iran does. Neither party cares what you think.
Can there be better and worse outcomes? Sure. But we’re moments away now. It’s too late to rationalize with Trump about his campaign promises. How solid Tulsi seemed or what the IAEA has filed. Or to appeal to Bibi to respect the goyim’s “international law”.
I pray that the revolution brings fire to the garden. When there is a snake infestation, extreme measures can be expected.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 19:49 utc | 258
“📸 Argentinian President Javier Milei calls Iran an enemy of Argentina.
Says Israel and Netanyahu are “saving” Western Civilization.”
Cunts will be cunts.
Posted by: Tichy | Jun 21 2025 19:53 utc | 259
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 19:44 utc | 259
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There are still a couple of drunks at the bar who think that everyone is living inside of Trump’s fantasy and that Donald is looking for a “deal”.
He could have had one before he took responsibility for attacking Iran and killing (more) Iranians.
Trump can try to deceive until he is blue in the face. It will have as much effect as tariffs.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 19:53 utc | 260
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 19:39 utc | 253
Well, maybe, maybe not. It is very probable that Israeli planes were shot down by Iran. Nothing is invulnerable, and Iran has very good AA missiles and electronic weapons. Remember who hi-jacked that US drone a few years ago. Additionally, if planes were to overfly Iranian airspace it’s probable that these were ‘stealth’ planes, as other Israeli planes are old, vulnerable cold-war models. Ergo, planes shot down by Iran were F-35’s.
But in any case, it is very clear that Israel is losing the missile battle. Statements from Israel confirm this – they are being forced to ration AA missiles, while best estimates recon that Iran still has thousands left. And if Trump does in fact wait for two weeks before doing anything, this will co-incide with Israel running out of completely. Trump the Saviour! Till it all turns sour.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 19:56 utc | 261
According to Mahmood (translating a speech of a senior or maybe retired Iranian general), this is in fact the Iranian strategy/plan/policy: “Punish the child killers until they cry “uncle!”
And maybe keep going after that.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Re “concessions,” who will guarantee them, and with what?
Posted by: Jane | Jun 21 2025 19:44 utc | 258
You misunderstand. The first people Iran would be interested in getting tangible and immediate concessions out of is Israel. And Netanyahu would rather see them all nuked to ash, so there isn’t much question of what in particular has to be offered or how it would be guaranteed.
Iran is in prime position to spearhead a global “revolution” if the fight stays conventional. Which is why the fight is not going to stay conventional. I thought the Israelis will be first to launch the nukes, but it doesn’t matter who destroys Iran in the broadest sense. Macron just showed the EU would be fine with it thanks to his ludicrously aggressive demands on Iran, the Arabs will probably throw a party, VVP will be relieved that all the “Russians” in Israel are still alive, and the Zionists will insist that it had to be done on every news channel. China might demand concessions in Asia, and they might even get them.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 21 2025 19:58 utc | 262
Posted by: Jane | Jun 21 2025 19:44 utc | 258
Great scenario. I look forward to the Orange Ambassador
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 19:58 utc | 263
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 18:38 utc | 209
How about a barrage of Iranian ballistic and hypersonic missiles on Cyprus, with an Oreshnik hidden inside the envelope?
(With a note to the Brits painted on the sides – with love, VVP)
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Jun 21 2025 20:04 utc | 264
In many ways an oil supply shock could be used as an opportunity stemming from a crisis by the Chinese state. Its exports of wind turbines, solar cells, intelligent grids, nuclear power stations, electric trains, electric trams, electric subways, electric personal vehicles, electric trucks, electric buses etc. would greatly benefit from an oil supply shock and perhaps the destruction of much of the oil infrastructure of the Middle East.
RB: The juxtaposition of crisis/opportunity is found many times within Chinese culture, one that can be well utilized by the efficient and effective Chinese Party-state.
Roger Boyd @ 96
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Isn’t there character of the Chinese language that more or less defines opportunity as arising from crisis? (Something like that)
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RB: It is the West, and most especially Europe, that would suffer heavily from an oil supply shock. Probably tripping he next Euro crisis. The vast majority of the Us citizenry would also suffer greatly, while a few oligarchs and corporations make out like bandits. Not a good look for a MAGA president.
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Living on Cape Cod and witnessing the multi-level and -faceted disaster/scam of offshore wind “farms,” I was happy to vote for Trump, who promised to scupper most of this ecological craziness. And he has done quite a lot in this department.
I can’t help wondering, though, whether part of Trump’s unspoken energy “deal” mightn’t have been a promise (to ????) to get control of other countries’ “fossil fuel” assets: Gaza’s gas and oil; Iran’s oil; Syria’s oil; everyone’s oil . . .
(I shudder to think of the fuel being burned through in the course of this escapade. Whatever happened to Net Zero??? LOL)
Are there any dots to be connected here?
Posted by: Jane | Jun 21 2025 20:04 utc | 265
So what is likely to happen?
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 21 2025 19:08 utc | 229
Syria, what else? Same team, same result. I think you are correct about Russia and China, was clear because of Gaza though. They remain the tricksters that simulate a functional UN, a trap for fools like NPT, but in fact enable jungle law and complete supremacy only for US/Israel. “Not that there’s anything wrong with that” (c)
Also Millei entered war for Israel tonight. Iran should be scared, he has a chainsaw!
Posted by: rk | Jun 21 2025 20:05 utc | 266
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 21 2025 18:53 utc | 221
Commentators dislike Putin because he
doesn’t share their hatred of the Zionistsis a Zionist.
Fixed that for you.
Posted by: Lengai | Jun 21 2025 20:11 utc | 267
Doesn’t seem to be much new footage today, I suppose Operation Israeli Yuzhmash Clampdown is working effectively, or maybe everyone is too busy queueing up to get out to be bothered filming…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2025 20:13 utc | 268
Forward from: Marwa Osman/MidEaStream
SIGNS OF WAR: U.S. Gears Up for a Possible Strike on Iran
As the war between Iran and the Zionist Israeli-U.S. axis escalate, multiple military and intelligence indicators suggest the U.S. may be preparing for direct military action against Iran. Here’s what we know so far (find links below):
1. Military Buildup
▫️According to WSJ | Reuters: B-2 stealth bombers deployed to Guam & Diego Garcia, ideal platforms for bunker-busting Iranian nuclear sites.
▫️Acoording to AP News: Dual U.S. Carrier Strike Groups now operate in the Red Sea & Gulf of Oman.
2. Logistical Moves
▫️According to the WSJ: Over 40 U.S. aircraft withdrawn from Al Udeid (Qatar), likely repositioned forward.
▫️C-17 and B-52 movement indicates pre-positioning of air power and missile defense assets in the Gulf.
3. Strategic & Intelligence Shifts
According to Bloomberg: Increased satellite tracking & high-altitude recon flights over Iran.
▫️Reports of cyber readiness and command post activations.
4. Diplomatic Posturing
▫️Public threats by U.S. leaders (top of whom is Trump) toward Iran’s Leader of the Revolution Imam Sayyed Ali Khamenei, echoing 2020 rhetoric before Martyr Soleimani’s assassination.
▫️Embassy drawdowns & regional evacuations under review.
Conclusion:
The confluence of strategic bombers, naval assets, intelligence operations, and political signaling points toward the real possibility of a U.S. strike on Iran, or at the very least, a push to provoke it.
– Israeli occupation military spokesman:
－The Israeli military is currently attacking drone warehouses and a weapons depot in southwestern Iran, in the Bandar Abbas region. Bandar Abbas is the port overlooking the Strait of Hormuz.
@TheSimurgh313
Posted by: JB | Jun 21 2025 20:13 utc | 269
Will Trump attack Iran? Wrong question. Military is preparing full time, Trump is buying some time to confuse his MAGA not to understand they serve MIGA, he is master con man.
But most importantly, he is Chabad as Satanyahoo and seemingly Putin. This is long time satanic project. Those who analyse all thru geopolitics may have the totally wrong hunch.
Thanks to those who tried to stop direct US aggression.
Any questions are late now after decades of unconditional support to genocidal Khazarian regime, after already helping in everything, from clearing path to Persia by destroying Iraq and Syria (and Lybia and Yemen) to tv slaughter of Palestinians, the only Semites in Palestine.
Posted by: Saraj | Jun 21 2025 20:15 utc | 270
Syria, what else? Same team, same result.
Posted by: rk | Jun 21 2025 20:05 utc | 269
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Iran is not Syria. Iran launches satellites. Iran sells a lot of oil to China. Iran’s nuclear program is led by thousands of engineers, many of whom are female.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 20:15 utc | 271
Posted by: paddy | Jun 21 2025 19:42 utc | 255
Post cold war 90’s, cost was the primary reason, these were a 2 billion a piece at the time (the cost of about carrier each back then), a time when budget deficits\constraints were still taken at least slightly seriously, base closing were going on, and other programs were higher priority.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 19:42 utc | 257
More lovely news. /sarc
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 20:16 utc | 272
I offer the following as a reference to all barflies, Russian Constitution in English:
Chapter Two: Rights and Freedom of Man and Citizen:
Article 61
1. A citizen of the Russian Federation may not be deported from Russia or extradited to another State.
2. The Russian Federation shall guarantee to its citizens protection and patronage abroad.,/b>
Article 62
1. A citizen of the Russian Federation may have the citizenship of a foreign State (dual citizenship) according to the federal law or an international agreement of the Russian Federation.
2. The possession of a foreign citizenship by a citizen of the Russian Federation shall not derogate his rights and freedoms and shall not free him from the obligations stipulated by the Russian citizenship, unless otherwise provided for by federal law or an international agreement of the Russian Federation. [My Emphasis]
The vast majority will not have read the Preamble to the Russian Constitution:
“We, the multinational people of the Russian Federation, united by a common fate on our land, establishing human rights and freedoms, civic peace and accord, preserving the historically established state unity, proceeding from the universally recognized principles of equality and self-determination of peoples, revering the memory of ancestors who have conveyed to us the love for the Fatherland, belief in the good and justice, reviving the sovereign statehood of Russia and asserting the firmness of its democratic basic, striving to ensure the well-being and prosperity of Russia, proceeding from the responsibility for our Fatherland before the present and future generations, recognizing ourselves as part of the world community, adopt the CONSTITUTION OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.”
Sorry for the OT, but this has needed to be provided for years.
I’m starting to get on board with Love Donbass theory of Rip the band aid off and get it started. With an insurance policy that Iran can hopefully hold out.
If Trump does it, it will be the 2nd biggest US geopolitical blunder since pushing Russia and China together. If he attacks Iran it will stop those trying to create a wedge between Russia and China in their tracks and BRICS will flourish. The alt right media will go into meltdown. The Kissingerarians won’t be able to sleep for a month.
As a true lefty that puts a spring in my step. After watching all this right wing fuckwittery for decades now.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 21 2025 20:19 utc | 275
Lengai | Jun 21 2025 20:11 utc | 270–
I see you’ve confessed your hatred. Good for you. Compared with Putin, you have the wisdom of an earthworm.
this is the last vestige of Colonialism, and to Putin’s credit he spoke to that problem five times during his SPIEF remarks. The Global Majority has expressed that Era is no longer to be tolerated and continued. And Neocolonialism is at the basis of the attack on Iran.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 21 2025 18:53 utc | 221
One cannot be both opposed to colonialism and a supporter of the West’s loyal little Ulster in the Middle East.
Something has to give.
Posted by: Lengai | Jun 21 2025 20:23 utc | 277
@Sun of Alabama 278
I agree about the scale of the mistake. What amazes me is that the majority of intelligent individuals who believe themselves to be well informed, simply ignore this. The effects particularly, for the Europeans, of driving the Russians away are truly enormous. Instead of thought, you get ‘ Muh, Putin is Hitler’.
Dumb.
Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jun 21 2025 20:24 utc | 278
Anti Zionism is a very broad umbrella: https://news-pravda.com/usa/2025/06/21/1453509.html
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 21 2025 20:25 utc | 279
Judge Barbier? the French Algerians didn’t have support of the French? they had total control. Not only will Israel vanish, AIPAC vanishes too. GET ISRAEL OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA NOW, is my chant, soon it will be all over MAGA. The French Algerians had total supremacy of force and never lost a battle. but they lost the illusion of safety and security, and that has been shattered for the Zionists.
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 20:25 utc | 280
🚨⚡️Iranian girl: “We are very happy, hit them even harder, destroy them! May God save Mr. Khamenei for us.”
Every layer of Iranian society, both religious and secular, is chanting: “Death to the Zionists.”
video
https://x.com/mog_russEN/status/1936496530543813058
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 20:25 utc | 281
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 21 2025 18:53 utc | 221
That is some readout thanks for taking the time to share it and I look forward to reading the rest on your substack.
Only one thing confuses me ?
Did Putin offer Iran a strategic defence partnership or not?
Only the other day he said he offered one but Iran refused. G said the same about Syria.
If he did that appears contradictory to the read out ?
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 21 2025 20:26 utc | 282
🇸🇦🇺🇸 What’s this Saab 2000 AEW&C surveillance aircraft doing headed northwest from Riyadh?
This is a military-grade Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) plane—designed to scan airspace, track aircraft, and coordinate battle networks in real time. It’s flying at 26,000 ft, slowly sweeping toward Iraq or eastern Syria, a strategic path near the Iranian frontier.
This is not civilian traffic. It’s part of a growing web of aerial coordination providing radar coverage ahead of possible strikes. These aircraft manage airspace for fighters, bombers, and refuelers.
In short: Eyes are in the sky and they’re watching the border.
Note: NATO and Saudi both own and operate these aircraft. This is one likely one belongs to Saudi Arabia.
flight radar
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1936512632342843696
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 20:28 utc | 283
1. A citizen of the Russian Federation may have the citizenship of a foreign State (dual citizenship) according to the federal law or an international agreement of the Russian Federation.
2. The possession of a foreign citizenship by a citizen of the Russian Federation shall not derogate his rights and freedoms and shall not free him from the obligations stipulated by the Russian citizenship, unless otherwise provided for by federal law or an international agreement of the Russian Federation. [My Emphasis
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 21 2025 20:16 utc | 276
Provisions of the Yelstin Constitution written for Israeli dual citizens aren’t going to impress anyone. A lot of people have noticed that the dual citizens fled to Israel during the Ukraine war. No one decided to remind them of their obligations.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 21 2025 20:28 utc | 284
Did Putin offer Iran a strategic defence partnership or not?
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 21 2025 20:26 utc | 285
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He did, but the Iranians didn’t want to ruin the diplomatic track with the West, which a partnership with Russia may have done.
Pezeshkian is a liberal moderate President; he represents the secular urbanites.
He was the one who vetoed True Promise 3 at least once in the last 6 months.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 20:31 utc | 285
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 21 2025 18:53 utc | 221
In otherwords….
If Putin stands by that read out. He would never have offered a strategic defence alliance in the first place ?
One contradicts the other, no ?
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 21 2025 20:32 utc | 286
Yet another day where Trump DOES NOT authorize a direct US attack on Iran.
Yet another day where the analysis of TDS addled individuals is shown to be false.
Posted by: c1ue | Jun 21 2025 17:13 utc | 132
Yes c1ue. Another day that Iranians are not getting murdered en mass. Hooray for the orange man. Let’s rejoice. Moment of silence. Bow head. Sing: glory, glory, alleluia.
c1ue,
Are you claiming that the orange-man was not the one that green-lit the TEMORARY entity attacking Iran?
Are you claiming that the orange-man was not the one that provided the bombs, tankers, airplanes, ISR, clearance of air space, political and media support, for the TEMPORARY entity to murder Iranians? Last count 670?
That would be a shameful position to take, no?
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 21 2025 20:33 utc | 287
recent round up
🇵🇸🇮🇷 Ayatollah Khamenei’s X account: “For us, the Palestinian cause is fundamental, and the victory of Palestine is also inevitable.”
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43409
Jay Sullivan tweet (yesterday maybe this was mentioned b4): “Jewish lives matter more than anyone’s”
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43410
Javier Milei, President of Argentina:
“Iran is Argentina’s enemy. Israel is saving Western civilization”
“Israeli official: We initially planned to start and finish war within a period of 4 to 7 days with US help.
Our estimate is that if the US does not join the war, the conflict will finish in 2 or 3 more weeks.
Iran want to drag us into a war of attrition.”
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43405
Moment when an Iranian Shahed-136 directly impacted in Beit She’an this morning.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20644 (video)
NEW: One drone struck a warehouse in Bandar Abbas, all other projectiles were destroyed by air defenses
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20645
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/20643 (pic)
^related: Israel strikes Iranian navy – Bandar Abbas naval base under attack
The IDF launched an airstrike on an IRGC naval base near Bandar Abbas, one of Iran’s key ports in the Persian Gulf. Local media reported that the target was a warship at the pier. This is the first attack on the Iranian navy in the region.
❗️According to Iranian TV channel Al-Hadath, Israel is thus trying to prevent the closure of the Strait of Hormuz , one of the world’s main routes for oil exports.
https://t.me/OstashkoNews/182027
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 21 2025 20:37 utc | 288
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1936476094565392730
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
This must be known.
Iran is fighting against multiple adversaries.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 21 2025 18:36 utc | 206
Which is a good demonstration of despite how Israel is protected with the most advanced air defense systems the US empire has to offer, Iranian missiles (and even drones) easily get through. Many US assets are in much closer proximity and Diego Garcia, of course, is also within reach of Iranian missiles.
From the looks of it, the Zionazi’s will get their way and drag the US+vassals fully in this war. I doubt there will be overt Russian and Chinese support but I’m sure they won’t let this once in a lifetime chance slip through their fingers if only because if the US would get its way, they’d be next.
Posted by: xor | Jun 21 2025 20:39 utc | 289
Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jun 21 2025 20:24 utc | 281
I don’t think it was a mistake. I think it was the best thing that happened to mankind in hundreds of years. China and Russia getting closer and closer.
Many, many many people are trying to reverse it. Even some people we watch and who you think is on our side.
They are kissingerarians. Trumps foreign policy is straight out of Kissingers memoirs.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 21 2025 20:40 utc | 290
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Jun 21 2025 19:56 utc | 264
“Additionally, if planes were to overfly Iranian airspace it’s probable that these were ‘stealth’ planes, as other Israeli planes are old, vulnerable cold-war models. Ergo, planes shot down by Iran were F-35’s.”
There is video floating around of Iranians trying to drain the remaining fuel out of the drop tanks from IDF F-15s.
“best estimates recon that Iran still has thousands left.”
The best estimates do not show that Iran has thousands of missiles left that can reach Israel. Of those there might be a thousand. They certainly do have many more missiles that can’t reach Israel.
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 21 2025 20:40 utc | 291
🚨 The Zainabiyoun Brigade, founded by Hajj Qassem Soleimani and comprised of thousands of Pakistani fighters issued a statement announcing its full support for Iran and its readiness to engage in the war against “israeli” and American interests in the region
#IranIsraelConflict
https://x.com/TheMuslimFront/status/1936520786535125424
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WW3 loading.
In addition:
– Yemeni Armed Forces
– Islamic Resistance in Iraq
– Hezbollah
– Pakistani Zainabiyoun
…said they’ll enter the war if US attacks.
Putin at SPIEF’25 says Russia & Iran are fighting same forces, raising concern that world is on the brink of global war.
https://x.com/endofunk_/status/1936524669181444268
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 20:43 utc | 292
Could US plans include occupation of part of the country, mainly majority of oil and gas fields and ports? Similar to what Saddam did? And repeat their successful Syria strategy?
Is that feasible?
Posted by: Lubomir | Jun 21 2025 20:44 utc | 293
Trump has moved troops out of bases. That’s good for them. This is going to be a bloodbath once everyone gets in.
It’s a good time for Iraq to take back Kuwait and Yemen to reclaim what the Saudis took from them.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 20:45 utc | 294
Posted by: Lubomir | Jun 21 2025 20:44 utc | 296
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The plans could include anything. Trump just needs 2 million men on the ground.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 20:47 utc | 295
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 21 2025 20:40 utc | 294
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The one that can’t reach Israel can reach American bases in the region.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 21 2025 20:48 utc | 296
Jesus Loving Bannon tells us,
“The Party Is On”
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1936514056762151231
Oh Boy, that backdrop is so convincing, for a toad size brain.
Hope he rots in Hell as he IS part of the problem.
Posted by: Tom_12 | Jun 21 2025 20:49 utc | 297
No more info on the B2s?
Vanished from radar (pun intended)?
Posted by: Mario | Jun 21 2025 20:54 utc | 298
ed4, those can reach Prince Bandar airbase and boats in the Persian Gulf, so many targets, so little time. Wouldn’t you drain fuel from wreckage in a responsible world? Are we drawing big conclusions from that?
It seems to me that if Israel had air superiority over Iran we’d have footage of that. But we don’t, why? In such a vacuum any positive news would be powerful, but the approved of news sources aren’t able to source and positive news among their sources. Ironically, Iran seems like the more open society of he two theocracies
Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 21 2025 20:55 utc | 299
see the 23-second video at the first/second link. Gabbard from May 2019
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1936381675514003666
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
Remember this?
https://x.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1128291372375707648
Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 @TulsiGabbard
Trump says he doesn’t want war with Iran, but that’s exactly what he wants, because that’s exactly what Saudi Arabia, Netanyahu, al-Qaeda, Bolton, Haley, and other NeoCons/NeoLibs want. That’s what he put first–not America.
———-
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1936440199656927444
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Israel is bombing oil storage in Iran, confirming that its aim has nothing to do with Iran’s nuclear or missile programs. It means Iran can feel free to target anything related to Israel’s energy storage and sources.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1936499661264585103
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
I think Haifa will receive a huge retaliation this evening.
The chances of war in the Middle East has increased.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 21 2025 20:55 utc | 300