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June 8, 2025
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2025-125

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:


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Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

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JohnGilberts | Jun 10 2025 6:03 utc | 196
China due to lack of energy resources very much takes the lead in alterative energy. Thorium reactor, only a theory in the west. A pilot reactor now operating in China. Fission. A hybrid fission/fusion plant now under construction.
China has relatively large reserves of low sulphur coal but due to its large population and energy usage, has to ration that.
Not long back I saw the google energy usage in the US by percent. Only a few percent, but that percentage in a nation that hogs energy is quite large for nothing of substance.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 6:19 utc | 201

psychohistorian | Jun 10 2025 6:12 utc | 199
The Persians are are good at this ancient game. So too is Rus. My thought is that with the two million dual citizens, Rus is better placed to have assets in high places.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 6:26 utc | 202

In Mexico sheinbaum is under fire by the right as they are naturally disgusted by poor people (“nacos”) who migrate illegally to the US and they’re trying to blame her as instigator of riots. Unfortunately for them they can’t vote trump for mexican president and are just managing to alienate themselves for every other person with a little bit of pride and self respect.
https://x.com/SimonLevyMx/status/1931742739106050072
In the meantime Petro in Colombia is having a really tough time after a senator/candidate was shot and is nearly dead. If he manages to recover he will have big chances with the “alt right” pushing strongly emboldened by trump and milei.
https://x.com/AgustinLaje/status/1931544421364846714
Hopefully trump is hand full and unable to stick his nose around here. Any crisis in a medium size county could send a wave of migrants. Unlucky venezuelan and cuban gusanos who are still waiting for their believed (orange) knight in shiny armor

Posted by: Mariátegui | Jun 10 2025 6:45 utc | 203

Trump Escalates Coup by Sending Marines to Los Angeles
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/06/10/byhp-j10.html
“The deployment of active-duty Marines makes a major escalation in the effort to normalize the use of military force on American streets. It is a direct violation of the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which bars the use of the military for domestic law enforcement.
While Trump officials have repeatedly and absurdly referred to the protests in Los Angeles and other cities as an ‘insurrection,’ they have so far refrained from invoking The Insurrection Act of 1807. Instead they are asserting the president’s supposed authority to deploy troops within the United States.
A New York Times article published Monday quotes Kori Schake, from the right-wing American Enterprise Institute, who notes, ‘The Trump administration is test-driving a novel legal theory that you can circumvent the restrictions on domestic law enforcement by the American military.’
But neither the Democratic Party nor the corporate media will state openly what is taking place. It is a coup – But they dare not speak its name…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 10 2025 6:57 utc | 204

“No brawling allowed in paradise Mr AU1, you’re expelled”.

Posted by: Leuk | Jun 10 2025 8:24 utc | 205

Waiting For Trumpo
https://johnhelmer.net/waiting-for-trumpo/
Waiting for Trumpo (2025) is a farce in which the principal character lacks the power for the ending he says he is waiting for. He has plenty of rope, though, using it to hang everyone else and leave him the last man standing. He too doesn’t move…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 10 2025 8:57 utc | 206

A power outage yesterday has me now playing catchup, having dutifully missed a day due to reservation of stored power issues. So, I did want to thank you, nc, for the following extract in your post at NemesisCalling | Jun 8 2025 22:45 utc | 68:

… I find it highly questionable that many MMT-proponents assume that, whatever outcome arises from the ongoing conflict with the Axis that has its flashpoint in Ukraine and potentially Taiwan or Tehran, the west will still be able to manage its money and credit issuance without any hindrance from external events.
Do we not all of us immediately see that this proposition is highly dubious and, if it is truly a winner-take-all event in Ukraine, which many doomers like myself know it to be, the tools the MMT-proponent propose to use on the domestic front will be a moot point against a complete collapse of trust on the international markets between the Axis and Allies.
I see many others problems with the MMTs also:
Although Warwick Davis does address the issue Cantillon brought forth in his essay “On Economic Theory,” that new money issuance often finds its way into elite hands firstly, with average joe’s receiving sloppy-seconds where their portion of the distribution has already been devalued by inflationary factors. Google summed it up thusly: The “Cantillon Effect” describes how the creation of new money in an economy disproportionately benefits those closest to the source of that new money.
Again, Mr. Davis addresses this issue in his essay so at the very least he is not obfuscating this fact that, in my mind, has proven completely true in a post-2008 world where TARP arrived on the scene and sent money issuance to the stratosphere and, since then, all metrics used to gauge disproportions in wealth have shifted in favor of the elite…
Not a good indicator I would say of MMT’s ability to control wealth’s gravitation toward the elite.

This, to my non-economics-savvy brain, is the basic point on the subject, wealth gravitation. It may well be that the reason I cannot understand is my own poor brain, but I have a sneaking suspicion that, as with other matters, somebody is working very hard to make sure that the many shall not ever understand. Every now and then a ‘thread’ by Wolff and Hudson makes sense to me, and I have an ‘aha’ moment — only the next time I go to their conversation I have to say it moves into uncharted waters where there be dragons.
(Sigh)
At least it keeps me humble.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 10 2025 8:57 utc | 207

@ PeterAu
Hadn’t been to this article since I posted and had missed much of what you wrote here, im back as you posted on the other thread this morning (here in U.K.) I have now caught up.
I won’t repeat what I have there regarding your MIA over the last six months or so when your demise was announced and then when you had suddenly reappeared and just as suddenly disappeared …
Does not matter.
There is nothing more to say.
b’s virtual bar, our virtual spectral existences, sock puppets, trolls and even the worst the HasbaRats (whom I heave honestly advised to get out of ‘dodge’ before they have to walk out) .
Who knows who anyone is unless they have declared themselves and have links to their bio’s and direct emails etc.
I maintain a mask. For various reasons.
I have no doubt any state agencies who care know all our identities.
I have banter here.
In real life it’s not so easy except with the best of friends who aren’t afraid to have stand up rows with and still carry on afterwards as best of friends not having to cover the same topic again.
It’s not easy with Family and other friends and associates who have never raised their eyes from the msm and the narratives.
Life is too short now to ruin the daily home and physical bars with religion and politics.
It’s easier to say ‘I don’t believe it’ rather than ‘its lies’.
It’s easier to ask ‘why do you believe what you do? When and what made you think this way?’ And leave it at that.
Ultimately time does tell. And outcomes do disappoint.
There’s no point in saying ‘I told you so’.
Just buy them a pint and shrug and don’t mention it again unless they raise it.
I’m travelling again for the rest of the day till late tonight so will check back at MoA tomorrow probably.
Stay well. Sorry about your troubles and illnesses, my missus has suffered with autoimmune /lupus things too – she seems better with better food choices and exercise/gardening and managing exhaustion by taking to bed for a day or so instead of getting depressed about it – so it goes.
Good to see you back but that doesn’t mean I like you or agree with your life choices or opinions and check out my 7 part post; (persiflo put it on his site) but did some while ago which I dedicated to you on your announced demise. Which I wouldn’t have otherwise.
I’ll not question your bonafide again and request the rest of us barflies to do same.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 10 2025 9:20 utc | 208

“… It’s not just Team Trump that’s dysfunctional; the vast majority of Congress is too, and most of them are millionaires and have no clue how most Americans suffer from their deeds.”
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 9 2025 1:21 utc | 73
My response to this quote from your essay, karlof1, as Tuesday begins is: How could they not have a clue? The greater malfeasance lies here, to my mind — greater that is than the president’s own. I shouldn’t be stealing your final sentence, but perhaps can be forgiven — due to a long power outage. This will be old news to many hopefully. I’m doing an overlap catchup, and at least can report my aroused awareness on this issue. This is indeed a very bad bill.
Thank you, karlof1.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 10 2025 9:20 utc | 209

Was thinking that with the Colombia assassination attempt trump might be getting a “there but for the grace of god goes I” and decided to take a look at his posts.
No references to Colombia, but he does return to his assassination attempt .
Even a book named butler , and seeing trump with the word butler made me remember Charles Martel, Sargon of Akkadia, etc all butlers who took over kingdoms

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 10 2025 12:27 utc | 210

@DunGroanin | 209

I’ll not question your [Peter’s] bonafide again and request the rest of us barflies to do same.

Seconded.
@Peter, you may want to rename yourself again, to thenceforth be known as Peter AU2 🙂
Also maybe get in touch with Karl, who is understandably still a bit reserved about this.
Here is the link to the piece at my substack which DunGroanin wrote and mentioned.
@psychoh, if you want to write a preface to that piece do so, and I will publish it there or as a comment. It’s a nice exercise in collaborative writing.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 10 2025 13:06 utc | 211

Trump is going to win in L.A., and a few days later some judge is going to undo it.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 10 2025 15:27 utc | 212

john helmer from today –
WAITING FOR TRUMPO
“There is time,” the confidential Moscow source says, “for Trump to deliver the Ukrainian signature on the Memorandum in Istanbul by the end of the month. If he fails and Zelensky does not sign it, then I think we will see a massive escalation. In the meantime, pay less attention to the daily news from the front – at least until one or two fronts collapse and there is [Russian] breakthrough in substantial numbers.”

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2025 15:40 utc | 213

interesting ad on craigslist
CALIFORNIA RIOT IS A FUNDED OPERATION. Adds on Craigslist paying people $6,500-$12,500/wk for being a “tough badass in LA.” You just can’t make this stuff up.

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2025 15:48 utc | 214

https://www.nokings.org/ mass protests june 14th in the usa??

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2025 15:51 utc | 215

interesting ad on craigslist
@ james | Jun 10 2025 15:48 utc | 215

Please don’t tell me this much is far beyond your ken, barflies: Our FBI has a very long history of inciting violence to discredit demonstrators. You don’t suppose that could be happening again, as a pretext for invoking the insurrection act, do you?
Does anyone here remember the George Floyd rebellion, when some of us got together to protest wanton police murder? That one was also suppressed by means of agents provocateurs, if you recall. Naturally you anti-woke crusaders don’t recall any of that pre-woke oppression. George Floyd is ancient history, by now.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 10 2025 16:08 utc | 216

Canada To Boost Defence Spending To 2% Of GDP This Fiscal Year, Reach NATO Target: Carney
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/canada-to-boost-defence-spending-up-to-of-gdp-this-fiscal-year/
“Canada will boost defence spending by billions of dollars to meet NATO’s two per cent of GDP target this fiscal year, Prime Minister Mark Carney announced Monday, in a speech focused on ‘threats from a more dangerous and divided world.’
The pledge comes ahead of next week’s G7 summit hosted by Canada in Kananaskis, Alberta. Part of Canada’s spending plan includes Canada’s participation in the $234-billion ReArm Europe program…”
Redacted on Carney’s Militarism & EU’s Boondoggle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0SL_ug0sn8
Bilderberger banksters will be Bilderberger banksters. Sir Keir, Ursula VDL here we come…

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 10 2025 16:18 utc | 217

Sabby Sabs on protests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FqDuH4QXTQ
LAPD is not supposed to collaborate with ICE but they are since police forces are mercenary forces.
Will note the lack of black protestors. May be due to lack of support from Hispanic community during their protests.
See some stating protests may be funded by nefarious interests but believe people are just fed up with our government period. Protests and riots are always due to the governments failures.

Posted by: Thurl | Jun 10 2025 16:19 utc | 218

Oops..let’s try again..(corrected from #218)
Carney’s Canada To Boost Spending Reach NATO Target
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/canada-to-boost-defence-spending-to-2-of-gdp-this-fiscal-year/
Redacted on PM Goldman-Sachs Carney’s Militarization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0JL_ug0sn8

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 10 2025 16:28 utc | 219

@ Aleph_Null | Jun 10 2025 16:08 utc | 217
alex krainer discussed this all in a substack article this morning.. that is where i got the x link from.. looks like an inside job for sure.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2025 17:28 utc | 220

Frauds: “It’s da FBI!”
Sometimes, and sometimes it is the NDI.
How do you tell if a protest riot is a legitimate expression of the population?
It is actually very easy: Where does the Mockingbird mass media stand on the festivities? Since the mass media is supporting the riots, we can say with 100% certainty that the riots are manufactured; artificial.
Always always check how the official narrative is being spun by the presstitution industry. The presstitution industry will never ever support the interests of the common people.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 10 2025 17:46 utc | 221

To repeat:

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?
Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?…
The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough.
And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.

Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

Posted by: Exile | Jun 10 2025 17:49 utc | 222

“Does anyone here remember the George Floyd rebellion…”
ROFL! The violent drug addict thug who killed himself by eating his entire stash?
Yeah, the George Floyd festivities were a perfect example of a mindless stampede manufactured by mass media.
Truth that the gullible fools who were taken by mass media lies can never accept: Floyd was complaining he couldn’t breathe while he was walking to the police cruiser: Full uncut bodycam video.
All of the Floyd protesters and rioters were fools who only saw what the mass media told them to see and believed what the mass media told them to believe. This is why you always start with the assumption that what the mass media feeds you is a deception intended to manipulate you.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 10 2025 18:08 utc | 223

I think Jimmy Dore’s team sums up the situation in L.A. quite well.
No, it is not about illegal immigration (though, if we in the U.S. are ever to have a country again, we will have to tackle this problem down the line).
Rather, it is about Trump being the man most able to implement Thiel’s/CIA’s Palantir which means total centralization of information on citizens that will eventual lead to social credit score, CBDC, and other Phillip K. Dick stuff.
I called this years ago: Trump is the one under the guise of being an Austrian and small government man (i.e. Ronnie Reagan-posing) to implement the greatest centralizing event of power in the history of the U.S. and indeed the west.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 18:29 utc | 224

@223 exile
Yes, it does look like that if push comes to shove, we will have to start killing the foot soldiers.
Alex S. is a good reference at this point in time.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 18:35 utc | 225

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 10 2025 18:08 utc | 224
Maybe they’ll learn with our upcoming Jorge Floydez riots.
Dead Kennedys – Riot

Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 10 2025 18:48 utc | 226

DunGroanin | Jun 10 2025 9:20 utc | 209
It is exceptionally rare to find a group of people not mired down in group think. This last six months, I have only been in contact with my sister and one mate that stuck by me. I haven’t really wanted contact with anyone else.
Have been emailing my sister quite often, let her know the ups and downs in my health as I try the balance the nutrient intake and so forth. Although she only reads MSM, she has quite an interest in what is going on the world. She has never read and never traveled nor ever spent time with cultures different to our own. So I write about that and what I am seeing in the world.
Sometimes once a day sometimes several different subjects in a day and sometimes every few days.
She was sent off to boarding school – a finishing school for young ladies type place – after year seven. Since then we have led completely different and separate lives her on one side of Australia and me on the other. Perhaps a phone call each christmas, maybe meeting up every decade or so at some family function and that was about it.
We only started getting to know each other when my father died. Can’t rember the year. Maybe six years ago or eight. Something like that.
When she jumped on a plane and flew over, I was in an exceptionally bad way. Couldnt walk as far as the mailbox – about 15 meters from the front door. She stayed for a week or two and we spent a lot of time talking, often disagreeing. But the was an empathy for others, plus a direct honesty that gave me a great deal of respect for her even though her views were mostly the direct opposite of mine. Although we had the family bond as siblings and had always got on well together when we happened to talk or meet up, developing that respect for her character for me, moved correlation ship up to good friendship on to of the sibling bond.
Its an odd thing that we, or at least I, learn so many things so late in life, perhaps too late.
Saw persiflo’s link to your webpage but a bit bloody embarrassed to go and look at it.
One other thing that is just a general comment to all.
During the time my children were just being born in my mid twenties, especially around the tie mire son was born, I had debilitating back pain from the inflammatory stage of ankylosing spondylitis. The inflamed connective tissue began to calcify about when I was 28 and finally diagnosed. It had fully calcified by age 30 and I was fairly free of pain and fatigue. I was lucky that only the pelvis joints fused with the lower vertebrae fused to the pelves, changes to the bone in upper back but not fused.
At age 35, I was hit with virus induced autoimmune disease. Similar symptoms to this bout, but milder. I was also younger. That slowly faded, though with a few short relapses. After seven years, I think 42 perhaps a bit older. I was finally free of it.
A couple of good years free of fatigue then got hit with this one – mamal allergy/intolerance due to tick bite. That was even known in the medical industry until seven years after I acquired it.
I think it was January of 20O6 I got the first splitting headache that was unlike anything I ever had before that. Six months later the gut problems began and since then, never been able to work full time.
Instead of slowly getting better with some relapses, this has been constant progression in severity marked in the the earlier years by some emissions. My children have rarely known me when free of illness and the associated fatigue.
How long have I been posting here? Ten years perhaps a bit longer. Its been eight or more years since I was well enough to go and work part time for my. At least two year since I have been able to grow a few veggies with collapsing unconscious that evening from fatigue if I dug over a small patch of garden bed.
The mind numbing fatigue is now gone. The largest blood vessels go to the brain. Physical fatigue from illness goes hand in hand with fatigue of the mind – in yuppi terms – brain fog. Makes it very difficult to pull all thoughts together at the one time – as in putting them together here in a somewhat decent post. I have always had problems with typos, my communication skills next zero, though I have tried to develop them a bit since looking into geo-politics nd wanting to comment on it. I guess there was enough anger in me over MH17 to put aside my embarrassment at my communication skills.
If my posts have changed a bit, it is because that literally mind numbing fatigue that I have experienced for so long is now gone. They might deteriorate a bit if I try and post something when I have had a bit much to drink.
What I’ll do with my life now, I have no idea. Had though about just living on the coast fishing and foraging as sea food is something I can eat safely. Then as my health up, though about heading to coober pedy for the winter and do a bit of fossicking there to bring in a little cash. Then I went down hill again as I didnt have the supplements balanced properly and now that I seem to have that stabilised its mid winter so by the time I get there its getting late in the season and the heat would soon kick in. Also I have to be sure I well enough and stay well enough to get up and down old mine shafts.
Don’t feel much like, or have any interest in doing anything else.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 19:09 utc | 227

lex talionis @227
The paradox of the riot is that the only people in power who will be moved by it are the people who already care about the concerns of the rioters. Do the presstitutes egging the rioters on care if those rioters’ neighborhoods burn? Of course not, and in fact they are gleefully hoping for it.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 10 2025 19:31 utc | 228

have the riots in la been blamed on russia yet? how long do we have to wait for that to happen?

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2025 19:37 utc | 229

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2025 15:48 utc | 215 But you can make this stuff up. People have long claimed that protesters are paid, since at least the French revolution. As I recall, this was an insinuation by Tories against the crowds in New England during the early phases of the American revolution (1774.) As in, John Hancock benefited financially from the Tea Party and therefore he was responsible.
I’m sorry, someone investing a little in an ad on Craigslist that smears protesters is not the same as someone actually paying people who answer the ad…if any. I think the technical term is ragebait, which is SOP for both right-wing Republican MSM like Fox, and the Democratic MSM as well.
The notion that “the press” is supporting violent protesters lies by erasing the existence of right-wing Republican MSM. Further it deceives by pretending that police/troops moving into civilian territories cannot possibly provoke violence but can only be a good-faith exercise of the executive. This notion is so absurd that it really insolence, trolling. What part of the MSM is not speaking against “violence?” None I think. Justifying their opposition as meaning, don’t play into Trump’s hands, is not justification of violence. It’s merely anti-Trump, which is to be expected by the Democratic wing of the MSM. The false dichotomy of support Trump or support violence (insinuated to mean support Democrats=leftists etc.) is rhetorical trickery.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 10 2025 19:41 utc | 230

NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 18:29 utc | 225
*** to implement the greatest centralizing event of power in the history of the U.S. ***
No, that was the “Federal” side winning the Civil War.

Posted by: Cynic | Jun 10 2025 21:34 utc | 231

@228 Peter AU1
I put away the metal detector a couple of years ago, had searched every field within walking distance several times and was finding even less than previously, which was not much. It is strange how mood changes, what used to be open for adventure and exploring became smaller and restricted, and that because of local changes that happened I think. So sights are set further away now, of trying to find old mines I have marked and maybe prospecting way away along dry river beds. It would be fun to find some natural gold. So far it is just the iron I have found that I once mentioned, but there is also supposed to be copper around.
A long while back a neighbour and friend in a small french mountain village … the living room was low cupboards around and a table, quite spartan but familiar, and on all the cupboards around was placed what he had found from the mountains. He would just take off alone, with dynamite if I remember, and go right off track to his favourite grounds.
People have to like that sort of way to understand it. I could show an old coin for example and the impression is that you just go and wave a detector about and there is treasure. Instead though it is actually several hours of trecking around and detecting and digging scrap just to find something of any interest at all. The times you find something exceptional though, and the various experiences while out exploring, make up for all the difficulty …but you have to enjoy the challenge and effort to get anywhere with it all, as well as having some determination or focus.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 10 2025 21:35 utc | 232

Give Us Rain
“Give us Rain, Rain,” said the bean and the pea,
“Not so much Sun,
Not so much Sun.”
But the Sun smiles bravely and encouragingly,
And no rain falls and no waters run.
“Give us Peace, Peace,” said the peoples oppressed,
“Not so many Flags,
Not so many Flags.”
But the Flags fly and the Drums beat, denying rest,
And the children starve, they shiver in rags.
By Robert Graves

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 10 2025 22:04 utc | 233

Ornot | Jun 10 2025 21:35 utc | 233
Its the life. I put in four months gold detecting in the west Australian goldfields about 2010. Every new minelab detector that comes out there is a new gold rush. Nuggets come out of ground that has been worked over many times and new patches are found. That is happening again now in Australia, especially with gold prices in Australia dollar heading towards the moon.
When I went, a new detector had been out for six to twelve months and gold was AU$1800. I went out to the edge of the sand – camel country – thinking not too many would go out that far. But I was late and everywhere I went, a new patch had recently been found. The nearest I came to a new patch was when I went to a place there had been old diggings. The secret is to pick up the line of the gold and work along that. Out either end and any gaps in between.
I drove around the ridge looking at the place and at the northern end where it was a bit scrubby, I decided that was the place to start’ I got out of the car to have a look around and water the horse before starting. While I was watering the horse I looked down the slope through the scrub and there’s a couple working a patch. I hurriedly put the old fella away and went down to see them. They had run on to a patch just a day or two before and were in the stage of cleaning it up, removing every bit of fallen wood, every bit of low bush so they could detect every inch. I had missed out by one or two days.
A good sign that there was still gold to be found at fresh scratchings was if logs had not been rolled and low scrubby bushes had not been removed and I would look for those signs.
The best I found was where the dirt from every second scratching still contained the small nugget. Most of the stuff I was finding was in the half to one gram range, usually at a depth of 100 to 150mm
I was about 500k out of Kalgooli. Would buy enough canned and drie food for about three weeks A 200l drum of deisel and a 200 liter drum of water (I didn’t bath too often and no doubt was a bit smelly when came back in to sell the gold and buy more provisions).
But in that three weeks out I generally found about two ounces. Enough for running costs but not enough for new tyres, car rego ect.
Found a little pocket of opal about three k from the house where we lived on the Paroo, about 160k by road west and south of Charleville. To pull something like that out of that arid and harsh land. It has had me hooked ever since. Beautiful gems for women to wear.
But the solitude – the peace and quiet of living far from anywhere. Its peaceful. Those sort of places in Australia though are hot in summer and once I became ill, could no longer handle the summer heat.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 22:15 utc | 234

Inot long before checked my email inbox which I hadn’t checked for a day or two. There was one from this site. Not hundred percent sure about it being genuine but took the punt and answered the question. Because I am not 100% sure it was legit I thought I would mention it now.
I aw n one of the other threads, some dog I must have kicked in the guts in the past took a bit of a snipe. They change names like Jill changed Joes nappies (Americans say diapers).

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 22:31 utc | 235

Change… changes. At least dementia Joe wouldn’t care about the wording. He’d just shake my hand and go off looking for the little girls.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 22:36 utc | 236

@ steven t johnson | Jun 10 2025 19:41 utc | 231
i have no doubt a lot of things can be ”made up”.. this has come to define the western msm, especially the major outlets with the most outstanding example being saddam had weapons of mass destruction, plastered over the front of the nyt… so yeah – shit can be made up…
what is more interesting is how folks brains work and highlight a receptivity to some of it, but not necessarily all of it.. a selective process seems to be at work where one story is ”legit” and the opposite story is ”made up”… unfortunately for many americans, everything gets filtered thru this left/right, dem/repub filter which further adds to the lack of clarity… i would argue that clarity is the last thing the powers that be want for the ordinary plebs… just the opposite is the desired goal.. look how it continues to destroy many peoples ability to separate truth from propaganda..

Posted by: james | Jun 10 2025 22:44 utc | 237

RT News – June 10, 2025
https://www.rt.com/shows/news/618855-rtnews-june-10-09msk/
“Los Angeles begins to resemble a war zone, armored vehicles and 700 Marines are poised to patrol the streets. That’s as anger over Donald Trump’s crackdown on illegal immigrants enters its fourth day and protests continue to spread nationwide.
As the riots swell, we look into the hand that Democrat-backed NGOs are playing in the ongoing chaos, which may have more to do with the permanent political war, rather than the lives of illegal aliens…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 10 2025 23:01 utc | 238

“… clarity is the last thing the powers that be want for the ordinary plebs… just the opposite is the desired goal.. look how it continues to destroy many peoples ability to separate truth from propaganda…”
Posted by: james | Jun 10 2025 22:44 utc | 238
james, I posted this earlier on the Palestine thread, but recalling Dmitri’s words as the video closed, I thought you might appreciate it also, so here it is. It is not too long.
I nearly missed it myself, and was looking at your post here when it came to me to bring it here as well.
Best wishes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aDzt7K8LIE

Posted by: juliania | Jun 10 2025 23:28 utc | 239

Opal mining. Volcanic opal is found in many parts of he world. Volcanic opal greatly varies in quality. By quality I mean stability. Opal contains water. If water content is too high, the opal will crack when exposed to the air over a period of time and must be kept in water or somehow artificially stabilised. If good gem opal has been eroded out and exposed to the air over thousands of years it dries completely and goes milky white. White potch, white opal is due to the voids left by the water.
The great artisan basin of Australia is the only place in the world where opal is found in ancient erosion sediments. 95% of the worlds opal comes from that basin. When Mintabie was in full swing, it alone produced 95% of the worlds opal. Coober Pedy Whitecliffs and Andamooka produce white, sometimes dark or clear crystal opal They are very dry fields. It can be seen in vegetation cover but also I think he ground water table is much lower. A miner and Driller I talked to when I got him to come and drill where I found a pocket said he didn’t generally drill deeper than sixty feet as that was about the depth of the ground water table in that area, and any opal found below the water table would crack when exposed to air.
Lightning Ridge can and has produced the most valuable opal in price per carrot. It is part of the Great Artisan Basin but the only field in the Surat basin. Not all lightning ridge opal is black opal. It produces white, dark, clear crystal and black.
Opal colours. Somewhat decieving to the un-initiated. General it refers to the colour of the potch backing. Opal is natural glass as is quartz and one or two other stones. Potch is essentially inted glass and does not separate light into its primary colours. The darker the potch backing, the stronger the colour in the colour bar. I think the value gradient is – white, dark, clear crystal, black.
Crystal also comes in those body tones. The main ones though are clear, dark and black. White crystal appears to be very low grade ande low value. Black crystal very rare and high values.
A number of things affect a cut stones value. Making it frigging complex. The colours of the rainbow it shows plus the painters palette that turns those primary colours into every shade. Blue is he most common and lowest value in primary colours. Red is rarest of the primary colours and highest value in that aspect. Then there is the painters palette. Pinks, thats like the Shanghai physical metals exchange hitting london paper gold with a Russian hazel tree.
Brightness. Brightness is the big one. Te best of that pocket found. About the size of an Australian 50 cent piece. I rubbed it back and polished it to an extent with ad hock methods. Did not know jack shit about cutting and polishing opal. It flashed fire in the twilight. A few imes I would pull it out before sitting on the front steps in the evening after the sun had set. I liked sitting there as day turned to night.
The lightning ridge anticline has the only known/worked fields in the Surat basin. There will be more. I talked to a dozer contractor one time wo had been designing and deeping a dam north of morven and east of Augathella. I know the property. While deepening it they had to break through sheet silcrete. He sw piece of green gem opal in the broken roke the had pulled out and had it cut and polished into a gem.
Boulder opal and the Winton formation and what I have written here are different stories to this post as is how it is formed, where it occurs. Have run out of bullshit at the moment but will continue as more thoughts come together. Electroplating, Uranium and gama ray detectors, prospecting drills. Pressure ridges and the character or features of anticlines. Not for the simple minds.
After talking to that driller – he came up from Koroit – I wanted to buy a drill and go opal prospecting but did not know where to look. Theres an effin lot of country in Queensland and if opal was easy to find, it would not be worth finding. I did a lot of research at the time but there wan’t enough nfo at that time to help me. Or perhaps me be new to the internet back then did not know where to look. I think though that there simply was not as much information available.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 0:16 utc | 240

@ juliania | Jun 10 2025 23:28 utc | 240
csis is like canadas wannabe version of the cia.. and they take their orders from the cia, lol… dimitri is a great man and i admire him.. the csis gang – i have no respect for on the other hand.. thus is canada in 2025..

Posted by: james | Jun 11 2025 0:57 utc | 241

@Peter AU1

Don’t feel much like, or have any interest in doing anything else.

What about gem stone finishing?

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 11 2025 1:50 utc | 242

From ZH
US, China “Agree In Principle On Framework For Implementing Geneva Consensus”
quote

After a full second day of discussion on the US-China trade deal, we finally have… something.
As Bloomberg reports, just before midnight London time, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and China’s Vice Commerce Minister Li Chenggang both said they have agreed in principle on “a framework for implementing the Geneva consensus” combined with the outcome of the leaders June 5th call.
“Once the presidents approve it, we will then seek to implement it,” Lutnick added.
If it sounds confusing, it is: the parties said they will implement a framework which was already agreed upon weeks ago… so what exactly were the talks for? Shouldn’t there have been at least some token progress beyond what was already agreed upon, hence “consensus.”
Lutnick adding that “We absolutely expect that the topic of rare earth minerals and magnets… will be resolved in this framework implementation,” does not make it any clearer if there is any actual deal on rare earths and/or chips… or just an agreement to continue talks?

And yes, for all the pomp and circumstance, it appears that all that took place in the past 48 hours was some meetings over coffee and KFC, because as Lutnick also said, the “framework is a first step, we had to get the negativity out.”

Meanwhile, US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer said there were no other meetings scheduled, but added that the American and Chinese sides talk frequently and are able to do so whenever they need.

Sounds like a standoff to me and that sounds like a win for China, getting the negativity out is a good first step toward mutual respect…..will it happen?….not likely this week but maybe next, eh?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 11 2025 1:57 utc | 243

persiflo | Jun 11 2025 1:50 utc | 243
I do not have the hand and eye of an artist. Opal cutting is n art. First is the rubbing to reveal the rough shape and colour. Cutting is next and that is what requires the hand and eye of an artist. Cutting is taking the rough gem that has been rubbed out into a perfect gem shape.
Polishing is a humdrum affair. Same as polishing scratches out of a cars windscreen.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 2:12 utc | 244

Posted by: james | Jun 11 2025 0:57 utc | 242
I’m glad you know him, james. What I quoted from your post sounded very similar to the calm way he was describing his experiences, not as an optimist but as a realist. Birds of a feather you two are.
I hadn’t seen or heard him since Greece was in the spotlight until a few days ago when he and a colleague posted their discussion of Trump’s fallout with Musk. His calm demeanor is infectious, made me feel privileged that Canada was my family’s first American destination after crossing the Pacific.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 11 2025 2:45 utc | 245

Polishing is a humdrum affair.

Spinoza, a famous philosopher and a bit of a dissident in his day, famously worked as lense schleifer for optical instruments in Amsterdam. I’m no particular fan of Spinoza (though he may be largely misunderstood), but this part of his life always kind of impressed me.
You can do it seated, and turn them into jewelry as well – even better then. Why not man’s jewelry? It’s an amazing field if you care for it. Guys usually don’t wear much stuff, but there is no proper reason for that, other than aesthetical commonality. – Aesthetics can be learned if you have the talent. I discovered mine around the age of 30, once I had a smartphone with a camera. It soon turned 3d, leading me joking about it as being a reborn Ikebana master. Now I think on the higher levels of giftedness, this sort of skill quite “meta”: whatever thing interests me, will just explode in front of my eyes once I start to care. For me it’s clearly related to logic and abstraction and language, but others may have it in their fingertips … you were good at metalworking (and cooking I guess), and you have no sense for bullshit, so all that combined might just cut right through.
It also alleviates boredom. And don’t get started how you feel insecure about it if you want to give it a try. Or do if you must, but I say fuck that. People like to tell others or give them an impression that they’re not worth much all the time, but this is (a) wrong, and (b) rather irrelevant, since you’re doing it for yourself. You’ve not been cheating death to give up in front of a lathe.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 11 2025 3:01 utc | 246

Guys like Lutnick get the death penalty in China. Fascinating that the Chinese meet and discuss with him.
I don’t think the Yankees understand how much undeserved respect the Chinese are giving.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 11 2025 3:25 utc | 247

@ juliania | Jun 11 2025 2:45 utc | 246
thanks juliania! i was mentioning his video with john helmer a few days ago.. it was a day before the nima/helmer video from yesterday which was along similar lines, or was in a day and 2 further back? at any rate – yes, i know dimitri lascaris and admire the man for all he has done and is working towards doing on the world stage.. he is on substack if you’d like to follow him more closely..
canada and usa have much in common – not everything, but much in common.. i met two americans on sunday around 11am – visiting via boat from the seattle area and staying in the nanaimo harbour.. we talked and had a very nice exchange with each other.. it is nice to be able to do this sort of thing with strangers! they were a lovely couple! i was just having a cappuccino with my dog sitting close by and reading glenn diesens book! we walked down the hill close to the harbour and then back.. sunday was hot here – close to 90 f… the french filet beans have all popped up! we have been eating chinese broccoli from the garden the past few weeks as well.. have you ever had that??

Posted by: james | Jun 11 2025 4:09 utc | 248

Last one on this particular topic from me, welcoming back @ PeterAU1.
(and @ Persiflo thanks for the seconding of my proposal;
& to @ others who have opined wrongly – get a grip and move on)
Thanks again Peter for more personal revelations.
Not that I am particularly interested.
Or that you should feel obliged.
I like life stories. Most people enjoy mine!
If nowt else you have/are leaving an indelible mark at least at MoA – future historians, probably sentient AI, might one day come dig up your bones having found your patina on the yellowed walls and ceilings of this bar; your scratched markings on the furniture, your odure on the furnishings… some enduring fame at least – if not the fortune and respect and fame you craved in your lived life…
Story telling and remembering is a skill as you know with the aborigines song lines.
Maybe that’s your final calling?
Not personal. There but for the grace etc … go most of us.
I read that Van Gogh never sold any of his mad paintings in his lifetime- look at him now!
Anyhow…
Your sis sounds like my sister and my missus – as kids sent away to school when it was the thing – education!
Boarding school when parents doing ‘colonial’ work or attempting to jump ‘up’ the social class. An abomination that should be banned as some kind of child cruelty in this age … in my very considered opinion. Most such children find it very hard the rest of their lives to adjust to ‘normal’ relationships.
Moving on…
My bro has the spondylitis thing you describe. Has him walking bent over and in pain.
Got some kind of perma medication regime; epipen has to stab in his thigh daily.
The illnesses of the odd foreign lands ‘colonialists’ I have known seem to be the newish types of disease. It may have to do with actual biological warfare / strange flora/ fauna connections. You’re not the first Aussie I have heard of having such strange immune condition.
Maybe you should research the incidence and correlation?
With your ailments you ought to be on state benefits for the remainder of your life and in no way having to rely on having to scrape a living.
I don’t know the welfare net system of Oz.
Next …
I despise the mentality of the New Worlders – again nothing personal – that has been generationally developed as ‘taking’ stuff from Nature and Natives – especially the wanton destruction of native species and environment as something that is natural to exploit, regardless of the damage it causes.
Whether it’s the African/Americas/ Asian/ West Asia/ subcontinental/ Indo Pacific or the Australasias – It has bred people who are such ‘go out and grab types’.
Insular, inbred sometimes.
[ The whole Last Imperial Illegal Apartheid Entity and its colonial Anglo European expansion in West Asia is exactly that – the last iteration of it. It has the worst traits of the imperialists mind set.L of the slave owning, exploiting ages ]
It makes very self reliant and knowledgeable persons but boy ‘you lot’ sure are a pain in the arse most places you go – especially in mobs!
Even on line! (Talking of which where’s Canuck disappeared to? Not another man over board! Jeez … get a search party together 😆)
I hate them all – except the ones I’ve met and hung out with 😘!
For example one of the greatest sailors who built his own ship and was an all rounder – like yourself was an Aussie. Dead now (spectacularly) but what stories he could tell. Of prospecting, diving, flying and what an obnoxious, foul mouthed racist about everyone except the ones he knew- then a complete gent.
I knew him not for long but had some fiery convos on some sails and at the beach bars. Wish I’d listened more when he tried to tell me Obama was an agent of the Deepstate an actual blood of it!
He too suffered from such gut and immune problems. Didn’t stop him circumnavigating the globe and live his life in the tropics mostly.
Another story another day.
Anyway Lazarus! lol.
Stick to your moniker.
Don’t get addicted, pace your self.
Carry on starting bar brawls here.
And go read my ravings that Persiflo has mirrored on his site about the khazarian bastard villains that have made this world of the Collective West; now a well deserved Waste on its last legs. (Hey OZ and Yankeedom were theirs too from Day One!). Its not about you, I just dedicated it to you as had just heard about your thankfully exaggerated demise.
Enough nicey nicey.
I’m ready to start slapping everyone for their bs because as everyone should know by now – i’m the only one who is right about everything , always and scream and shout and repeat it until you all agree. G’day.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 11 2025 6:42 utc | 249

Significant 10 year treasury debt auction on Wednesday. Tuesday yield was 4.8%
TBD
No moar money
No moar wars

Posted by: Exile | Jun 11 2025 7:24 utc | 250

Significant 10 year treasury debt auction on Wednesday.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 11 2025 7:24 utc | 251

That auction set the deadline for last night’s USA/China tariff re-negotiations.
Note to Howie Lutnick. Before going into a negotiation don’t badmouth your counterparty in Congress and the Press.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 11 2025 7:36 utc | 251

Very awesome happening in LA. Almost pay back for US destroying Hong Kong in 2019. Lots of videos.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 11 2025 9:13 utc | 252

That auction set the deadline for last night’s USA/China tariff re-negotiations.
too scents – good insight ! thank you

Posted by: exile | Jun 11 2025 11:19 utc | 253

Surferket @253
Definitely popcorn-worthy!
Thing is, the LA cops and the feds are not as gentle as the HK constabulary. That’s OK, though, as the rioters are not exactly Chinese students either. Both side like a boisterous melee, so it’s all good. Cops really do need to shoot more presstitutes in the ass with rubber bullets, though. Not enough of that for my taste.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 11 2025 11:23 utc | 254

Cops really do need to shoot more presstitutes in the ass with rubber bullets, though.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 11 2025 11:23 utc | 255

Right between the eyes ==> https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/06/toby-canham-freelancer-photographer-covering-106192909.jpg?

Posted by: too scents | Jun 11 2025 11:47 utc | 255

1st meeting of China-US economic and trade consultation mechanism in London achieves new progress in addressing each other’s concerns
By Global Times
Published: Jun 11, 2025 05:47 PM
[..] The two sides reached principled agreement on implementing the important consensus reached by the two heads of state during their phone call on June 5 and the framework of measures to consolidate the outcomes of the economic and trade talks in Geneva, and made new progress in addressing each other’s economic and trade concerns, according to the report.
China’s Vice Premier He Lifeng, who attended the meeting, stated that it was an important consultation held under the guidance of the strategic consensus reached by the two heads of state on June 5. He emphasized that China’s position on China-US economic and trade issues is clear and consistent. The essence of China-US economic and trade relations is mutual benefit and win-win, according to the report.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202506/1335904.shtml

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 11 2025 13:02 utc | 256

too scents @256
Good shooting! Off just a bit, though, and the presstitute could have lost an eye. That would be a bad look for the cops, so I think shooting them in the ass is better. That way the presstitutes would have to literally show their ass if they want to milk their bruises for sympathy.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 11 2025 13:06 utc | 257

could have lost an eye.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 11 2025 13:06 utc | 258

The shooting didn’t happen in Paris.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 11 2025 13:39 utc | 258

CARTOON
Different realities
By Liu Rui
Published: Jun 09, 2025 09:25 PM
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202506/1335751.shtml

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 11 2025 13:40 utc | 259

Civilization
Poole Harbour Osprey Nest Camera – Landscape View
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZHcO5XHM4s

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 11 2025 15:42 utc | 260

persiflo | Jun 11 2025 3:01 utc | 247
Cutting an opal is quite different to cutting a lense. Cutting a lens by hand is a science, a mathematical method. Cutting a perfect cabachon on an opal is an art. There is a lot of things I can do by working out a method to achieve my goal. Mathematics vs art. I have tried drawing many times – animals ect but they looked childish, out of proportion. I just couldn’t get that right. Both daughters have the hand an eye for art. The youngest daughter – I was able to show her what to look for, what needed to be done – although I could not do it myself.
Making the setting for the stone is also an art. A top stone will stand on its own in a very simple setting, but others require the hand of an artist to bring them to life. Especially free forms.
Prospecting, mining, and grinding the opal to a rub – a rub it taking a piece of rough and grinding it where it shows the best colour and is a rough shape of the finished gem. These things all go hand in hand. Cutting, polishing, setting and retailing – those go hand in hand. Both these groups are for two different character types and different areas of expertise.
Some or many miners sell opal in the rough. Black opal direct – he has a youtube channel – buys parcels in the rough. A parcel of opal is what the miner has mined in a week or some length of time. Could be aq hand full, could be a bucket full. The buyer looks for what is called the king stone. The best stone in the parcel. He/she studies it carefully to try and estimate its cut and polished retail value. That is the price they will pay for the parcel. Parcels of rough can be deceiving. Even the most seasoned buyers can buy a parcel that cuts little to nothing and the make a loss. Other times a very ordinary looking parcel of rough can turn out many top gems.
Some mines produce rough that always cuts into top gem, a mine not far away may produce rough that looks good but cuts nothing more than sparkly gravel for a glass fish house.
In taking a rough to a rub, experience with the rough that comes from that field and the individual mines in that is also required. For the miner, if he is on good opal, grinding it to a rub will double or triple the value as there is less risk for the buyer.
But for me, finding some rough then taking it to a rub where its true beauty can be seen is the best part.
My children, when they were very young were just pieces of rough. I looked for the colour bar – their character and tried to bring that out. My son had interests similar to mine so it was easier to understand his character. The daughters however were a bit of a mind bender. I trod very carefully there. The eldest daughter I had smacked once when she was about 18 months old.
It was nine or ten years later – I would come home late afternoon and sit at the kitchen table. Then they weren’t all arguing, the youngest would jump on my knee and I would tell her tall stories. The son would give me a mouthful of cheek run to the front door when I rah rahed, turn stick his thumbs in his ears, waggle it fingers, poke out his tongue, then go racing out the door laughing as I came after him.
The elder daughter though would stand in the corner sucking her thumb. At that time I had not linked this to the one smack when she was 18 months old but I could see far more in her than a girl standing in the corner sucking her thumb.
I thought on that for a good while and believed what was hiding the gem was lack of self confidence. After realising that, I aways engaged with her, talked bullshit to her with the youngest on my knee and the son giving me cheek and racing out the door. She became obnoxious for a bit, but her self confidence greatly increased so kept encouraging her. What emerged – it was like Aladdin rubbing a lamp. The beauty and strength of the character that emerged – it blew my mind at what was hidden in that girl standing in the corner sucking her thumb.
I think it was at my sons 18th, when she was 16, I finally saw the cut and polished gem.
By then she had become the life of the party. A beautiful christal clear voice, not loud but it carried through the babble of a crowd.
A neighbour gave her a bit of a ribbing like she was a kid. The dressing down she gave hime was incredible to watch. I was watching him and trying not to laugh. He looked like a cockroach looking for a rock to crawl under.
As late teens and young adults, they were all capable of thinking outside the box, the son a bit but especially the girls. All though have now been sucked into the system. Their mother believed in the system. Like little children wandering off after the pied piper.
Equality? In this world, it seems you must always be the alfa male to hold a family together. If physical health goes, respect goes. Incredibly difficult in this anti-family world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 16:57 utc | 261