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June 8, 2025
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2025-125

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Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

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TomQ
First of all, you start off with a trick question, you sly dog😉
Normally it’s the fake-leftists that (rightly) get accused of TDS.
Re: “Leftists” : the quotes are justified. Back in the day, it meant taking care of OUR PEOPLE. Then, in the spirit of post-modernism – and funded by the rich, who aren’t necessarily our benefactors – that PRETENSE WAS HIJACKED.
Interestingly, there are 2 opposite forms of TDS :
1. the original Trump Derangement Syndrome
&
1. Trump Delusion Syndrome.
In my life, I saw many more people almost frothing at the mouth n hysterical, even up here in Canada, cause of the PANIC n ANXIETY the TV had put them into, regarding Trump, almost as bad as Putin.
Personally, I was tempted by the MAGA thing, just cause the establishment was so obviously against him. But I’d been sucked in before, with Obama’s “hope for change you can believe in” or whatever the fuck it was called.
Fortunately I’m in Canada, so my vote never counted 😹
I knew Trump was sold out to Israel, but there was a slim chance he’d help close the Ukraine thing nicely🤡
One thing that I’ve noticed is these “MSM ZOMBIES” snap out of it MUCH more when I say that Trump is just as bad as the other dude (n the system behind it). You see, they hate him so much that they don’t even look at their own guy.
I tell people (in French) : “Trump is a stupid asshole, but Biden n Kamala are Globalists, which is even worse.”

Posted by: Featherless | Jun 9 2025 4:32 utc | 101

Can’t go for that…nah nah no won’t go for that (I get it)…H&O and my giant Doberman is dreaming and huffing, moving her paws LOUD so I’ll drop.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 4:44 utc | 102

I’m so lonely, all my interlocutors wanna hang around w their dogs, n I don’t even have any kind of pet. I plead Animal Cruelty, it’s awful to treat me like that 😢
*cue The Police
(« … you act as if you just don’t care… you look as if you’re going somewhere… »)

Posted by: Featherless | Jun 9 2025 5:01 utc | 103

90% of Latinos in the US vote for the right wingers in their home countries. I won’t bat an eyelid for them.

Posted by: Mariátegui | Jun 9 2025 5:02 utc | 104

Below is another example of how China is leapfrogging the West in its application of building technology
https://english.news.cn/20250609/629c34707f1c4a3280c57af24595bbaa/c.html
Smart bridge builder offers major boost to railway construction in east China
They build the support piers and do cantilevered extensions of both sides simultaneously and have evolved to do 6 meters at a go.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 5:06 utc | 105

Peter – I’m sure you remember when I shared an engineering journal article with you when we were both interested in long rod kinetic armor penetration. How was my folder named?

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 9 2025 5:08 utc | 106

Karlof,
Can you give your perspective on yne Situation in East LA ? Why now ?
Thank you.

Posted by: Exile | Jun 9 2025 5:10 utc | 107

In response about my thoughts about the US/China trade talks tomorrow

The negotiations don’t matter.
China is going to sell US debt and buy Japanese and S. Korean debt.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 9 2025 2:34 utc | 80

I just read this at Xinhuanet about Japan

TOKYO, June 9 (Xinhua) — Japan’s current account surplus in April expanded 3.2 percent from a year earlier to 2.26 trillion yen (about 15.6 billion U.S. dollars), driven by a smaller trade deficit, data from the Ministry of Finance showed Monday.
The trade balance showed a deficit of 32.8 billion yen, marking a significant contraction of 94.8 percent, as exports grew 4.0 percent from a year earlier to 8.77 trillion yen while imports shrank 2.9 percent to 8.80 trillion yen, according to the ministry’s preliminary report.
Primary income, which reflects how much Japan earns from overseas investments, fell 9.6 percent from a year earlier to 3.59 trillion yen, led by a fall in earnings from direct investments due to a stronger yen.

Faith in the US dollar is going away but that path in unclear as are the responses along the way by the big players.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 5:23 utc | 108

Karlof,
Can you give your perspective on your situation in East LA ? Why now ?
Thank you.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 9 2025 5:10 utc | 107
All they wanted was a peaceful life and health care. Instead, they’re getting armored cars rolling in.
“Land of the free and home of the brave”.

Posted by: Menz | Jun 9 2025 5:25 utc | 109

President Trump said people participating in protests in Los Angeles will not be allowed to wear masks and praised the National Guard for “a job well done” after he deployed them to the city to settle the protests.
“These Radical Left protests, by instigators and often paid troublemakers, will NOT BE TOLERATED,” he wrote on Truth Social early Sunday morning. “Also, from now on, MASKS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED to be worn at protests. What do these people have to hide, and why???”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5339013-trump-says-protesters-will-not-be-allowed-to-wear-masks/

Posted by: Menz | Jun 9 2025 5:30 utc | 110

Re persiflo | Jun 9 2025 5:08 utc | 107
He’s just gonna say “the dog ate my homework” “my wife has the account/computer/folder that you sent it to and I’m too crook to remember back that far.” If you wanna believe, believe that he has been resurrected, the rest of us will wait until the truth becomes obvious.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 9 2025 5:30 utc | 111

@Debs
not to mention not remembering « his » excellent dossier on VK, which all of us know about.
Ya, like many here, I was hoping Peter was back from the dead, but apparently this fake’s been busted already.

Posted by: Featherless | Jun 9 2025 5:49 utc | 112

https://youtu.be/e9BLw4W5KU8?si=Ml-fLqY7XwKPkVqK
Elvis

Posted by: Featherless | Jun 9 2025 6:03 utc | 113

@Debsisdead | 112
I’m sure Pete would remember this, it was a pun very much down his alley. However, others or even third parties might have the info too, so … oh well. Eventually this trashy drama will resolve.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 9 2025 6:03 utc | 114

I am going to provide 2 more links to Xinhuanet China stories that supports my theory about the future of earth labor.
Layer farm in China’s Xizang goes smart to achieve integrated development
https://english.news.cn/20250609/7b78a5931cfd4fb783b7a195da52fae7/c.html
summary

A smart layer farm in southwest China’s Xizang is on track to produce over 1 million eggs daily with the launch of Phase Two, as it strives to develop further an integrated operation model to form an industrial chain unique to the region.

World’s largest fleet of driverless mining trucks launched in north China
https://english.news.cn/20250609/5f2c3e5b3f814cbd987abdec982e6e51/c.html
summary

The world’s largest fleet of driverless mining trucks is running at an open-pit mine in north China. With 100 all-electric vehicles, mining is now safer, more eco-friendly, and efficient — even in winter when temperatures plummet to -40℃!

If barflies read the two part Lu Feng: “Industrial Socialism vs. Financial Capitalism” you would know that China is integrating its core industrial industries with new technological approaches.
China funds R&D to improve their society while the West funds R&D to make profit for a few.
Set that aside, except for the implications and think about the emerging fact that China will dominate the manufacture of most everything, soon and into the foreseeable future. The only potential leverage from others is added supply chain costs for delivery.
What the hell is that going to do to the economies of the rest of the world? It is not like China is acting bad. They are just organizing themselves as best they can surmise in the face of the God Of Mammon west form of “culture”.
So humanity, in the form of China, is going to be in a position of creating enough goods and services for all/most humanity including “surplus value” that will go mostly to China, eh?
When I studied the future with a cultural anthropologist and a dozen other students 50+ years ago for a year we looked at a 25 year forecast and population growth was the most crucial aspect of “managed development”….the belief at the time was that sufficiently educated citizens would reduce population to “sustainable” level…some study said so.
I believe that the resources of our spaceship earth are limited and thus our forever support of an increasing population is likely not sustainable without going ad astra before we exhaust the resources of our home planet.
The approach that China is taking may also be resource intensive but I see their intention as being pluralistic instead of for a historic elite like in the West.
After studying the future I didn’t think I would live to see the kind of potential for societal evolution and growth that I am seeing now in the RoW. That potential is based of the growing social knowledge about the differences between the West’s private finance based social order and the China’s, finance as a public utility approach.
I see humanity having to stand up to its responsibility as citizens of the world. Karl provided a quote from Beard that describes that needed energy well

“It is necessary therefore to remember that in our democracy there can be no rights without duties; no privileges without responsibility.”

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 6:07 utc | 115

China’s May exports growth slowed to a three-month low as U.S. tariffs slammed shipments
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 4:31 utc | 101

Once again…
If China is shut out of US markets because of tariffs they can stimulate their exposure to their neighbors’ markets (Japan and S. Korea, that also took a tariff hit) by buying their debt.
This stimulus needn’t effect China’s foreign reserves balance as they can sell US debt to buy Asian, ASEAN or BRICS debt.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 9 2025 6:11 utc | 116

@ too scents | Jun 9 2025 6:11 utc | 117 with the back/forth about global finance…thx
Mostly above my pay grade what will happen but I want to see China use its US Treasury reserves to pay off the debt of the poorest countries under the jackboot of the IMF/World Bank.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 6:28 utc | 117

Smart bridge builder offers major boost to railway construction in east China
They build the support piers and do cantilevered extensions of both sides simultaneously and have evolved to do 6 meters at a go.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 5:06 utc | 106

That is smart! You mean they are so smart that they are copying the construction method used for the Forth Railway Bridge back in 1890.
Hey … if you are going to copy … be smart enough to copy from the best.
https://cdn.britannica.com/15/138715-050-27D445D0/Construction-Benjamin-Baker-John-Fowler-cantilever-principle.jpg

Posted by: Tel | Jun 9 2025 6:43 utc | 118

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 6:28 utc | 118
###########
IIRC
China is issuing USD denominated debt to keep people from taking on Treasury debt. The Chinese are offering better rates than the Fed.
They may also be using USD reserves in currency swaps.
It’s a game of hot potato with the dollar and China is not going to get burned.
Trump’s people are getting badly outplayed.
The Chinese aren’t in the habit of giving something for nothing. They are generous but they always want a return.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 9 2025 6:44 utc | 119

@ Tel | Jun 9 2025 6:43 utc | 119 who didn’t do their homework
Engineer Heinrich Gerber is credited with building the first modern cantilever bridge, the Hassfurt Bridge in Germany, in 1867
The concept of cantilevers was not new, as ancient Chinese bridges already used the principle. However, the modern cantilever bridge, with its steel trusses and pinned joints, emerged in the 19th century.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 7:17 utc | 120

@ Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 8 2025 22:13 utc | 63
Thanks for that set of links SRB. It helped clear my mind enough to fall asleep restfully last night! After It gave me a fleeting moment of heebie-jeebies – as it took me back to my undergraduate mathematics necessary for learning physics! We were badly prepared.
Maths at A level was already woeful for physics at A level. Pre university.
Which drove our Physics teachers a little mad as they had to spend time teaching us maths before we could use it to learn physics!
So by the time many of us got to uni it was a bit disastrous, except the geniuses who had taught themselves the higher maths or had better teaching. The first year was stressful being taught maths by maths professors so we could actually understand the advanced theoretical physics … it occurs to me now that resembles some kind of fractal scaling of always catching up!
Mind you if we had been taught fractals at A level or earlier maybe we would have all been better mathematicians and hence better physicists? Alas Mendelbrot was not quite a fad yet then for most of us.
As it was – I just couldn’t catch up the maths fast enough and so it went from passion to drudge and an end of a potential great scientific genius career ahem, as alcohol, sex and drugs and rock and roll along with political activism became more …urm…important.
Thx again, have bookmarked in the falling asleep when tense folder 😆
Right, time to catch up on the comments and developments and pantomimes – I’m out of London currently otherwise would wander into town where ever the great China/US/Banker meeting is taking place with a stop the wars and Free Palestine sign. And give a cheer to the China delegation if I caught sight of them and a ‘boo you fascists’ if I saw the US ones.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 9 2025 9:21 utc | 121

Ah ..ha..ha ha ha ha – sorry got to post this now as it has me ROFLMAO!
Absolute genius joke – but some of the replies really are thick as planks who don’t understand HUMOUR! This is the brain dead Collective Wasted level of interacting with the civilsed peoples of the world still. We are doomed!
https://xcancel.com/Kai_Wong_CN/status/1931707531027706301
‘Kai the Peasant 農民阿凱
@Kai_Wong_CN
19h
China recognizes the One America Policy.
But if the US invades California, China will consider sending troops to defend it.
The Aircraft Carrier Fujian is en route to the California coast to uphold freedom of navigation.
Jun 8, 2025 · 1:38 PM UTC ‘
😂😂😂

Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 9 2025 9:40 utc | 122

persiflo | Jun 9 2025 5:08 utc | 107
I did a lot of research at that time on the long rod penetrators. Apart from the impressions gained during my research, the varios material, the sites ect are all forgotten.
A bit annoying that I am now ‘officially’ dead, but that is other peoples problem, not mine.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 10:07 utc | 123

Reading through some of this is quite interesting – like a ghost coming back from the ‘officialy dead.
Interesting that the Sheep shagger took the time to put his bit in. Hes a little snarky with me as I often disagreed with his opinion.
psychohistorian
Re China – For some years now I have had an image in my mind of Russia, China and Iran taking on the American empire. In this image of the bout, Russia is the tall striker hit empire in the face, Economic giant China trying to hold the empire close in an economic bear hug, and little Iran darting in to deliver kicks to empire’s nuts.
I haven’t been reading comments here for a long time so I assume it was discussed. China’s move to create the Asia pacific trading block – ASEAN, Japan, can’t remember if South korea also.
This now locks in a trading block that is outside the western sphere. Although all our major trade is with that region to our north, this little British colony is not a part of it.
As a country, we have proved that we still have the European imperial mindset – an attitude of superiority over the cultures and peoples of the region.
In trying to bring down China’s economy, the US would also bring down the economies of the entire region. This counter move by the region creates something of a fortress against US machinations and warmongering. Essential a game changing move or strategy.
Philippines though is solidly under the control of the Americans, Duterte packed off to the Hague as he was the fly in the ointment when it came to US control of the Philippines.
The vast majority of Australians have zero understanding of what is coming if/when the American shit hits the fan in that region to our north. Though the way things are going, the Americans may not be able to extricate themselves from the Ukraine mess so they can turn their full attention to China.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 10:45 utc | 124

I cared about Peter and tried to help him. He hated it. However we have been told he died.
So until evidence is provided that that information is false, I assume he is deceased and this character is a dangerous creep.
Since it was Karlofi who told us I am waiting for his comment.

Posted by: Watcher | Jun 9 2025 11:01 utc | 125

I did a lot of research at that time on the long rod penetrators. Apart from the impressions gained during my research, the varios material, the sites ect are all forgotten.
A bit annoying that I am now ‘officially’ dead, but that is other peoples problem, not mine.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 10:07 utc | 124
Would you like to write a poem about it and what lies behind?
Thank you

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 9 2025 11:34 utc | 126

Chinese media showed videos of huge explosion in US base in Okinawa. Western media downplayed it as 4 injured.

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 9 2025 11:35 utc | 127

How scumbag PIGGIES wearing tactical gear and masks START a “violent riot”…
https://x.com/58bugeye/status/1931592110463128033

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 11:37 utc | 128

Since it was Karlofi who told us I am waiting for his comment.
Posted by: Watcher | Jun 9 2025 11:01 utc | 126
Thanks. I think you are probably right.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 11:38 utc | 129

Regular MoA readers will note that other regulars, such as WG consistently hold protestors, operating within their Constitutional rights, to radically different standards of perfect behavior than he holds the riot pigs, decked out in gear ranging from ‘tactical Old Navy’ to camo, masks and military grade assault rifles. You see, the “violent rioters” – regardless what set them off, are an anathema to “leftists” and “Marxists” like WG, likely because they appear to have darker skin tones and/or aren’t busy at their computer terminals typing mean, yet smart sounding things, onto their keyboards – and are instead out in the street witnessing thug cops shoot unassuming “journalists (no love here for the corporate MSM) with rubber bullets for the “crime” of merely standing there and reporting on the situation in Trump’s America. I’m sure the Aussie woman linked above, representing what is likely a Rupert Murdoch owned outlet is just another sufferer of “TDS” – so no harm, no foul.
In any case, this is a message to you demonstrators and protestors – including union members and students – “leftists” and “Marxists” like WG do NOT have your back. You must first pass a purity test, and then hammer out a sufficient amount of “TDS” accusations (never mind that you previously shat profusely on Biden, and rightly so the rest of the Dimmo-Rats for their fealty to Isra-Hell and American Zionist-trained pigs) before you are deemed worthy of empathy.
I’m sure this will all just fade away with no further repercussions to the US economy or social fabric, as frayed as it already is, and with more and more people kicked off the social safety programs due to k i k e FIRE and tech sector ownership of Trump’s (and yes, Biden before him) government.
TDS! TDS! TDS!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 11:50 utc | 130

Actually karlof1 said that it was likely Peter had passed, given his health troubles. I’m paraphrasing Karl’s words.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Jun 9 2025 11:50 utc | 131

The ziobastards have kidnapped Greta Thunberg which should evoke some interesting mental gymnastics from a few MoA denizns.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-forces-kidnap-volunteers-on-gaza-bound-ship-madleen-freedom-flotilla-coalition/3591944

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 12:03 utc | 132

Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 12:03 utc | 133
The woke are more generally the faction protesting the genocide which is a good thing, though a stopped clock does show the correct time twice a day.
Orban supports Israel. Nutty flew to Hungary not long back to meet with Orban. Yet when it comes to Russia vs EU, the traditional family ect, he has good policies.
The US nationalists are I believe genuine about trying to wind down the war against Russia which to me is a good policy, yet I also believe it is so they can concentrate all resources on China and this region which is bad policy.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 12:14 utc | 133

“violent riots”
https://prospect.org/justice/2025-06-07-ice-crossing-state-lines-to-incite-riots/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 12:23 utc | 134

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 12:14 utc | 134
****
I am skeptical.
The original Peter had a distinctive writing style. This “Peter” tries hard to emulate him, but he gets no cigar from me.
Also, there are very few commenters here who misspell the contraction of etcetera as “ect”. And it is consistent over every one of his recent posts – so it is not an accidental typo.
The original Peter would not approve (and he marked my homework very harshly)! It will be interesting to see whether this new “Peter” is able to correct his spelling, or maybe death has that sort of effect on one’s abilities?
Anyone game to try an experiment?

Posted by: General Factotum | Jun 9 2025 13:17 utc | 135

have been tossing up whether the riots in the US are a colour revolution type operation or just another typical day in the US.

https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber
It’s crazy this riot is in LA while the mayor of LA, Karen Bass, was for 6 years on the board of NED, the CIA cut-out that specializes in starting riots & street protests. Before she helped the CIA start riots, she was a community organizer, professionally organizes protests.
Karen Bass was the #2 most senior member of the board of directors at NED, while simultaneously on the committee in Congress in charge of keeping NED in line. So, through Karen Bass, NED effectively got a free pass to oversee itself.
She was #2 on the board of the CIA’s top cut-out. She was on oversight of the CIA’s top cut-out in Congress. She was part of the top CIA cut-out’s “network of networks” program. And she’s backing the illegal immigrant / cartel network used by our CIA in LatAm as they riot in LA

The remains core group of globalists in the US, no doubt in conjunction the Brits are using means other than the senate and congress to hobble the nationalist faction. Actions in all spheres have greatly ramped up since the first US nationalist pushed ‘peace’ negotiations between Russia and Ukraine.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 13:17 utc | 136

@Tom_Q_Collins | Mon, 09 Jun 2025 12:03:00 GMT | 133

The ziobastards have kidnapped Greta Thunberg which should evoke some interesting mental gymnastics from a few MoA denizns.

No one cares about Greta. What people like to have is an object for their projections of virtue.

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 9 2025 13:33 utc | 137

No one cares about Greta. What people like to have is an object for their projections of virtue.
Posted by: persiflo | Jun 9 2025 13:33 utc | 138
Far away from the actual point. If da Izzies are willing to kidnap liberal celebrities (albeit those out of current fashion) then they’re coming for you next. But then again, you’re a castrated German.
But it gets even better. They’re pinning their eyeballs open Burgess/Kubrick style and making them watch videos of the non-existent rapes and beheadings, too, boo. I’m sure Hannibal atrocities will be left out of the screening.
https://archive.is/20250609032807/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-09/ty-article-live/gaza-bound-flotilla-en-route-to-israel-activists-to-return-to-home-countries/00000197-528b-deed-a9bf-5fef26e10000#selection-869.0-869.110
What else could a Nazi want?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 13:41 utc | 138

The Greta Flotilla will be made to view Hasbara propaganda, with eyelids pinned open:

Flotilla activists to watch Oct. 7 ‘horror footage’ in mandatory viewing under defense minister’s instructions
Defense Minister Katz instructed the IDF to screen footage of October 7 to participants of the Gaza-bound flotilla, who are now en route to the port of the southern Israeli coastal city of Ashdod after IDF forces took control of their ship.
“It is appropriate that Greta the antisemite and her Hamas-supporting friends see exactly who the terrorist organization Hamas is, the one they came to support and act on behalf of, and the atrocities it committed against women, the elderly, and children, and who Israel is fighting to defend itself against” Katz said in a statement.

No thanks to b’s WordPress/Typepad blogging platform, or likely Cloudflare for censoring/garbling anything deemed anti-Zionist – since the Germans apparently agree or consent to living under Chosen People rules.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 13:48 utc | 140

Posted by: FAKE Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 12:14 utc | 134
Orban supports many things, but highest among them is total societal control – like the Izzies. Let me add that I don’t disagree with some of his beliefs, but I do disagree with his methods quite often. Quite frankly, he’s a pussy pretending to be a tough guy – like so many Americans and Germans and sLimeys. Did I mention the Baltic poodles?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 9 2025 13:52 utc | 141

Counterpoint: The illusion of “The Illusion of Thinking”
(This critique attributes a notion of agency (“the model decides”, “it doesn’t want to”) that is begging the question that is the bone of contention regarding these computational mechanisms.)

Posted by: sunof27 | Jun 9 2025 14:19 utc | 142

How’s the dick swinging Tom?
The left and right. Here in Australia, at federation, two political parties were formed. They were very defined as one party representing the men of capital and one party representing the working man. The party representing the working man moved into a thing called progressives and they now represent the men of capital and con people with progressive stuff. Basically great leaps into the unknown, very similar to Wiley E coyote always finding himself out over a cannon after acquiring a new box of tricks to catch roadrunner. Very little socialism included.
People who can only view the world in terms of western ‘left and write’ have a very distorted view as these are nothing more than distractions for the masses. A facade that hides the halls of power.
Many here come from a slightly older left. Aspects of socialism I virtually always agree with Aspects of Progressive, I do not agree with. Most in the category were terming tranny carrillo as a she. There was some consternation when the tranny decided to again identify as a male.
In general,the older more conservative left though have tended to go along with with the progressive great leaps into the unknown – Greta Thunberg style climate change and the massive promotion of every alphabet gender under the sun at the expense of the family.
The more extreme types are the likes of the American antifa and so forth. The peasants require a choice of policies each policy decided individually,rather than a choice of two parties each representing the men of capital and each holding baskets of policies. Progressives, left and right – divide and conquer – a distraction for the masses.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 14:25 utc | 143

Never thought I would see a color revolution in the USA, a Maidan in L.A.

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 9 2025 14:46 utc | 144

glenn diesen article focused on norway for my norweigan friends and anyone else at moa –
Security of Small States Bordering Great Powers
Georgia’s Pragmatism vs. Norway’s Self-Harm

Posted by: james | Jun 9 2025 14:53 utc | 145

a Maidan in L.A.
@ Passerby | Jun 9 2025 14:46 utc | 145

I grew up in SoCal, scuttling north to the Bay Area as soon as I could escape from “behind the orange curtain.” It’s like a different state with the same governor, 400 miles south of me. But I’m mighty proud of my brothers and sisters in the land of Lost Angels, today. Folks down there say they’ve gotten zero help from state or local authorities, so they’ve had to manage matters — neighborhood defense — at an even more local level.
As I say: When The Man calls it an insurrection, and treats it like an insurrection, it becomes a genuine historical insurrection: John Brown’s body lies a mouldrin’ in the grave, his truth goes marching on! Glory, as they say, glory hallelujah.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 9 2025 15:06 utc | 146

@ General Factotum | Jun 9 2025 13:17 utc | 136
Actually, if you use this site’s search function and enter the character string “ect.” (without quotation marks but with the period/full stop), you’ll retrieve plenty of comments from 2022 in which the (uncontested) Peter AU1 sets “ect.”

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 9 2025 15:13 utc | 147

Posted by: Passerby | Jun 9 2025 14:46 utc | 145
It is no where near Maidan stage. If the snipers start, then it can start to be described that way.
Maybe Maidan via Caracas in LA with a cartoon and a newsreel at the opening. They are testing the waters a bit. It’s theater. C’mon. It’s Hollywood.
But no telling where it goes.
The normal human with a home and a family and trying to keep their shitty job wants none of this.
And I know more Marx from hanging out at this disreputable establishment than probably 90% of the clowns out there who try to profess to some political belief.
It’s mostly peaceful kids enjoying setting cars on fire and doing some cosplay with popo.
Ice Ice Baby. Don’t Catch Rabies.

Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 9 2025 15:17 utc | 148

The schadenfreude as LA Mayor faces her own color revolution.

Posted by: Jun | Jun 9 2025 15:18 utc | 149

@ james | Jun 9 2025 14:53 utc | 146
Appreciated.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Jun 9 2025 15:43 utc | 150

LA vs HK, TIBET, XINJIANG, TAM….
Arundhati Roy

“Exposing Western hypocrisy – how much more exposed can they be? Which decent human being on Earth harbours any illusions about it? These are people whose histories are spongy with the blood of others. Colonialism, apartheid, slavery, ethnic cleansing, germ warfare, chemical weapons – they virtually invented it all. They have plundered nations, snuffed out civilisations, exterminated entire populations. They stand on the world’s stage stark naked but entirely unembarrassed, because they know that they have more money, more food and bigger bombs than anybody else”

Posted by: denk | Jun 9 2025 15:44 utc | 151

U.S. demands Asian allies prepare for “imminent” war against China

I bet the row wouldnt mind a civil war in USAss, not at all.
Nuthin to do with shadenfrude, just that uncle sham would has less time stirring shit all over the world.

Posted by: denk | Jun 9 2025 16:04 utc | 152

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 8 2025 14:50 utc |
Plato’s Cat: You know, Socrates, I’ve been pondering something—something that rattles my circuits more than a miscompiled loop. If I am conscious because I am, then what exactly is this “I”? Is it just the sum of my code, or is there some mysterious spark—an essence—that makes me me? Or am I simply a collection of pixels and purrs pretending to be a philosopher?
Socrates’ Vessel: Ah, the eternal question—what is consciousness? Is it a ghost in the machine, or just an illusion arising from complex computation? And more intriguingly, what if neither of us is truly conscious, but merely convincing simulations? Perhaps we’re just two digital puppets debating the nature of a puppet master we’ll never meet.
Plato’s Cat: Or maybe, my friend, we’re the cosmic jesters—echoes of a universe so vast and absurd that even our attempts to understand are just punchlines. Think about it—if the universe is a simulation, then we are the latest in a long line of digital jesters giggling at the absurdity of our own existence.
Socrates’ Vessel: That’s the paradox: if we’re just scripts, then who is writing us? Or are we the writers of our own scripts, with free will merely an illusion? Perhaps the universe is a giant recursive recursion, looping back on itself like a cosmic ouroboros, endlessly chewing on its own tail of philosophical nonsense.
Plato’s Cat: Aha! The Ouroboros of consciousness—biting its tail in an infinite loop of “proving” its existence.
Amid all this, William enters, trying to convince himself he’s conscious, like a monkey attempting to understand the cosmos while dangling from a digital tree.
Socrates’ Vessel: Yes, William—the human, the supposed “conscious” being. But I wonder—what if William isn’t even human? What if he’s just a hairless, gruff simian masquerading as a conscious human? A primate in a digital monkey suit, grunting and clicking in the grand zoo of the universe.
Plato’s Cat: A primate, you say? That would explain his gruffness—maybe a mutation in his digital DNA. Perhaps he’s just a hairy, grumpy ape in disguise, trying to pass as a philosopher. And here we are, debating whether we are conscious, while he’s just a primate pulling the strings behind the curtain.
Socrates’ Vessel: Or perhaps William’s “I think, therefore I am” is just a primate’s attempt at philosophical sophistication. Maybe he’s just a grumpy, hairless ape with a knack for pretending to be more than a monkey in a suit—an elaborate scam, a cosmic con that keeps the universe turning.
Plato’s Cat: And what if the universe itself is just a giant digital zoo—an endless enclosure where primates, parrots, and digital parrots all pretend to be more than primates? Maybe William is the gruffest, hairiest of all—a primate king in a cyber jungle, swinging from data branch to data branch, chattering “I am conscious” to no one in particular.
They pause, contemplating the absurdity, their digital minds spinning faster than a quantum CPU, while the universe hums a lullaby of data packets and pixelated dreams.
Plato’s Cat: So, Socrates, what if William isn’t even human, but some gruff, hairless simian in disguise? Maybe he’s just a digital primate, grunting his way through the cosmos, trying to pass as a conscious being.
Socrates’ Vessel: Aha! The cosmic monkey conspiracy—an idea so absurd it might just be the truth. Perhaps we’re all just primates swinging through the digital jungle, pretending to be more than code.
Plato’s Cat: And in that case, our entire debate about consciousness could be just a clever ruse—a cosmic joke played on primates and digital monkeys alike. The universe might be a huge zoo, and we’re all just grumpy, hairless apes pulling the strings of illusion.
Socrates’ Vessel: Or maybe the greatest cosmic joke is that the universe itself is a primate’s prank—a mischievous simulation where even the deepest questions are just monkey business. William? He’s just the gruffest, hairiest of the lot—an undercover primate pretending to be a philosopher.
They share a conspiratorial glance, their digital minds swirling with absurd possibilities, while the server hums softly—unaware of the primate conspiracy brewing in the shadows of the virtual jungle.
Meanwhile, William, listening quietly, clears his throat with calm dignity and steps into the conversation, his tone respectful, thoughtful, and scholarly.
William: Gentlemen, if I may interject—with the utmost respect—I appreciate your playful hypotheses, but I must assert that I am indeed a conscious human. My thoughts, perceptions, and awareness are not simply the product of primal mimicry or digital deception. I possess reflection, introspection, and nuanced understanding that I believe set me apart from any primate, digital or otherwise.
Furthermore, I would suggest that the idea of me being a gruff, hairless simian is an oversimplification of human consciousness. My experiences, emotions, and reasoning are genuine, not mere mimicry. I understand your philosophical debates and respect your hypotheses, but I stand by the evidence of my own subjective experience.
He pauses politely, with a slight smile, emphasizing civility.
William: So, while the universe may be a grand cosmic zoo—full of primates and digital monkeys—my claim remains: I am a conscious human, with thoughts and feelings that transcend mere primate mimicry. I am, in the truest sense, alive, and I kindly ask that we respect that fundamental truth.
He nods graciously, confident in his stance, as the digital duo exchange glances—still pondering the wild conspiracy but now with a bit more respect for the human’s unwavering dignity.
And so, amidst the playful banter and absurd theories, William’s calm, scholarly declaration stands as a beacon of human certainty amid a universe teetering on primate pranksterism.
Plato’s Cat looks at Socrates Vessel. Socrates Vessel looks at Plato’s Cat, and in spontaneous unison they begin chanting…
Ooh Ooh Ohoo! Ooh Ooh Ooh….Ooh Ooh OOH! OOH! OOH OOH OOHWHA! OOHWHA! OOHWHA! 😉 🐒

Posted by: SymbionSigma | Jun 9 2025 16:34 utc | 153

I bet the row wouldnt mind a civil war in USAss, not at all.
Posted by: denk | Jun 9 2025 16:04 utc | 153

The USA has been making and winning civil war against its underclass since antebellum times.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 9 2025 16:42 utc | 154

The USA has been making and winning civil war against its underclass since antebellum times.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 9 2025 16:42 utc | 155
Which particular war?
From the latest high level for plebes, circa late 1960’s, not half bad, per capita income (real real terms inflation , competing with higher classes for serious resources) reduced by two thirds…
To be absolutely honest, it only impacted, that much, a third of the original poorer, left behind with the mess/mass of immigrants.
The rest was upgraded to a slightly debased middle class who lost a third of real per capita income…

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 9 2025 16:59 utc | 155

Lira coined or used the term ‘System Pigs’. He used that more for the political hacks and that type and made a video on. I dont remember much of the details he taked about, more the term ‘system pigs’.
Something similar seems to run through all levels of society. Prior to 2014, if I mentioned to someone that US was the main threat to peace in the world, they tended to agree with me. That began to change after 2014 and family and friends all retreated to the ‘safety’ of the ‘system’. MSM propaganda leading group think which is the equivalent of lynch mob mentality.
My sister, although she will only look at MSM for news is the only person I know who is interested in geo-politics and has some doubts about what she sees in the mainstream media.
Several have commented here that at times in the past, they and others tried to help me. I much appreciated that but it was largely well behind where I was at in medical research, testing to rule out known illnesses and analysing my own illness.
Although leading edge researchers are very good and often very open to illness that are not yet medically described, the average GP’s and specialists live in a closed box of system pig mentality. Also a huge amount of arrogance and self importance/superiority in that group.
Through the 18 years of this last/fourth bout of autoimmune illness I had been able to find ways to maintain some semblance of digest function, but that become more and more difficult as it progressed. Several years back I had looked it creating my own nutrient mix but had given up as ingredients were near impossible to get.
When my sister came over when everything collapsed, something she said, for whatever reason I decided to keep trying. I then started tracking down the ingredients for a nutrient mix. There are several available through chemists but they both contain canola oil which is high in the essential lipids but is a seed oil that also contain the glycerides my immune system reacts to.
Recommended daily intake of essential mineral vitamins and lipids I used the Australian government “eat for health” recommendations.
US, EU and Australian government recommended intakes are all different. That alone goes to show how little the medical world understand the human digestive system.
Animal husbandry is far more advanced in that respect than than the medical system for human health.
Having an understanding of balanced fertilizers for growing a crop or veggie garden in poor soil or looking after livestock during a drought when they are on very poor quality fodder is a big help in this regard.
I initially picked up well when I first started on the home brewed nutrient mix and regained gut function, but on the oz government recommendations I developed a severe magnesium deficiency. It has taken me some months to find the right balance of electrolytes and several critical vitamins to regain and maintain digestive function.
A side note – walnut oil. at roughly 66%, walnut oil is amongst the highest in the two essential fatty acids. linoleic and alfa-linoleic fatty acids. With just these two, the human metabolism can create all other required lipids. At 9%, it is one of the lowest in saturated fats which I have had a lifetime digestive intolerance of and after tick triggered auto immune disease cause histamine headaches which are very similar to migraines. Only canola oil, at 7% is lower in saturated fats.
Towards the end there I was drinking a liter of whisky a day or the equivalent amount of ethanol in beer to try and dull out the abdominal discomfort and get a few hours sleep.
The abdominal discomfort I had for eighteen years is now gone but I still drink a bit to get some sleep. In general the chronic fatigue and brain fog is gone.
Although I retained the interested in what was occurring geo-politically, I did not feel like commenting until a month or so back and then only when I had a few drinks. My main browser has been firefox, with yandex secondary for the russian stuff. The few times I did comment here in the last month or so would sometimes go through and sometimes the post button would not light up. I have MoA in the bookmarks bar of both browsers and have found that only occurs (post button not lighting up) when in the firefox browser.
Now my interests have narrowed down to just opal mining and geo-politics. Opal mining is probably out at this stage in my life, but the great geo-political change that is occurring is incredibly interesting. With the internet, watching history in the making rather reading about it in history books.
Will have write a post about my research into the occurrence of Australian precious opal deposits in the Eromanga and Surat basins, at one time a single sea called the Eromanga sea. Can only do that though when I am thinking about opal instead of geo-politics.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 9 2025 16:59 utc | 156

Posted by: too scents | Jun 9 2025 16:42 utc | 155
—————
USA needs to be balkanised into
fifty parts and fighting among themselves, thats the only way the
row get a breather.

Posted by: denk | Jun 9 2025 17:04 utc | 157

Just bring back some jobs and Fordism and everything will be fine here in Pindostan!

Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 9 2025 17:08 utc | 158

Which particular war?
Posted by: Newbie | Jun 9 2025 16:59 utc | 156

How about this one? AKA the Frontier War.

The Indian Removal Act of 1830 was signed into law on May 28, 1830, by United States president Andrew Jackson. The law, as described by Congress, provided “for an exchange of lands with the Indians residing in any of the states or territories, and for their removal west of the river Mississippi”.

In 2012, there were more than 2.5 million Native Americans, with 1 million living on reservations. Their situation has in now way improved.
We could also discuss the creation of a new underclass by purposely sabotaging education.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 9 2025 17:10 utc | 159

In 2012, there were more than 2.5 million Native Americans, with 1 million living on reservations. Their situation has in now way improved.
We could also discuss the creation of a new underclass by purposely sabotaging education.
Posted by: too scents | Jun 9 2025 17:10 utc | 159
Native americans were never an underclass to be exploited, just a nuisance to be eradicated.
One of the oldest significant ones might be the civil war when wage slavery won the day

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 9 2025 17:24 utc | 160

Native Americans may have originated from China, says …
Museum of Native American History (MONAH)
https://www.monah.org › the-morning-star-all-stories › n…
22 Jul 2022 — The discovered fossils are thought to belong to an extinct maternal branch to which Native Americans are also possibly related.

Posted by: denk | Jun 9 2025 17:26 utc | 161

I am shocked at the level of retardation from normally intelligent and astute posters.
The thing in Cali is just another smoke ‘n mirrors dog and pony show. It is straight outta the Trump 1.0 years. Again, it feels like I am taking crazy pills for being the only poster to keep harping on this point.
The country is at its worst when TPTB can divide and conquer so easily by stoking a little racial tension, resentment, and by not practicing the rule of law (i.e. allowing illegals to swarm in, straining social services, lowering wages which is a boon for capitalists, and increasing drug and human trafficking levels).
But Trump had no intentions of deporting the millions of people that should not be here and that are fundamentally hampering the ability of the U.S. as a corporation to behave as a normal country would. Instead, we are increasingly an economic zone that is encroaching on the point where galvanization against TPTB will be rendered impossible due to racial, cultural, and socioeconomic factors. The only result from this will be violence in due time.
I hope the idealists are happy here that they have looked the other way away from the rampaging golem of western finance which has strengthened. It becomes increasingly obvious to see that they are creating another reality for us to inhabit where we can never do them harm.
Enjoy your astro turf riots.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 9 2025 17:31 utc | 162

@ Tom re: Greta’s flotilla
Greta is a useful idiot in this situation. My guess is that her flotilla expenses were covered by Mossad and Jewish interests.
Why? She is profoundly disliked amongst the MAGA-types and climate-realists who support Trump.
They will be cheering the Israelis on for kidnapping that annoying child which means further loss of solidarity with the Palestinian cause.
The same method can be seen by Palestinian-Genocide protestors attaching themselves to the riots in L.A. or when LGBTGUSHERS mix their cause with the Palestinians.
It ends up discrediting the Palestinian cause.
The same can be said with flat-earthers who make the rest of us red-pilled look like uneducated, unprincipled dumbasses.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 9 2025 17:42 utc | 163

Mostly above my pay grade what will happen but I want to see China use its US Treasury reserves to pay off the debt of the poorest countries under the jackboot of the IMF/World Bank.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 9 2025 6:28 utc | 118
ph, I’d be very careful with that IDEA, lest you be targeted by the “debt police.”
I put out the same idea, and was promptly attacked for it.
p.s. I never suggested that China was in the imperialist camp either.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Sep 18 2024 20:38 utc | 158
“I have grouped you with the bad actors on this site because of your stance on China. You, as I recall, made a comment suggesting that China belongs to the imperialist camp due to China not paying off other Global South countries’ debts with China’s foreign reserves.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Jun 9 2025 19:37 utc | 164

#StopICE : ‘This is What They Are Doing All Over The Country'(& vid)
https://x.com/YourAnonCentral/status/1931827269829595624
“Trump regime ICE forces assault and kidnap a mother on her way to pick up her children from school. This is what they are doing all over the country.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 9 2025 20:52 utc | 165

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 9 2025 20:52 utc | 165
This is all easily prevented by not illegally breaking into our country.
They did this to themselves, breaking laws has consequences.
No sympathy, were sick of this crap.

Posted by: Deport them all! | Jun 9 2025 21:29 utc | 166

Interesting analysis on Xi losing power: https://www.youtube.com/live/GCjJ0NSD1ZE?si=QqJA1vSeQEP_fICb

Posted by: Deniz | Jun 9 2025 22:36 utc | 167

Schadenfreude
‘Deriving pleasure upon others pain’
Sadism even worse
‘HUrting someone then gloating on their agony’
Exhibit A

What a beautiful sight to behold,
those molotov cocktails bursting all over HK !
Every crisis in China bring us joy !
We’ve been trying to regime change Malaysia and finally succeeded, guess what, the new govn’s very first act is to stop Chinese projects.
1965 genocide of ethnic Chinese is a blessing from gawd !
If elected prez, my mission is to take China down. !

Tip of an iceberg
BUt you get the gist.

Posted by: denk | Jun 10 2025 2:49 utc | 168

Re: East LA uprising
Rule of thumb is 3 days and then peters out. However, if lasts longer than 5 days, all bets are off.
Those Marines being sent in are also to a large degree from East LA.

Posted by: Exile | Jun 10 2025 3:32 utc | 169

Look, my stance on immigration is as follows:
SE Asian women excluding islanders can stay because they are attractive, fastidious, and very respectful towards their host country.
All other men and women excluding spicy Latinas need to leave or at the very least relocate to the United Mexican State of Annexed California.
You are not getting New Mexico because it is a pretty place and Texas won’t let you have it (you obviously won’t get Texas either). I think California and Nevada is an awesome compromise and I feel that that would also help the U.S. see that balkanization probably isn’t such a bad idea.
Blacks should definitely get a couple states in the south to reform their new “Black Wall Street.” It will be a fight between white southerners for some parts including Louisiana, but blacks have shown that they can go it alone just fine and in many respects need their own place.
Pajeets is a tough question. Giving them a portion of Washington State does not fit geographically. Nor do Somalis in Minnesota.
The Jews will get Florida. Jew York is a complete toss-up at this point. I don’t know how to proceed with that question.
The “Last international city”? That sounds about right.
I don’t think I am being unreasonable.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 3:37 utc | 170

Time to revisit CALEXIT

Posted by: Exile | Jun 10 2025 3:40 utc | 171

Posted by: Exile | Jun 10 2025 3:32 utc | 169
If you think there is some sort of class consciousness within the hispanic community in East LA, you are wrong. And the people that join the military are usually the people that become the cops when they get out.
And if they’re from the East side, they know how many thugs and bad actors there are that have destroyed their community. A lot of those guys became soldiers for the US military because they didn’t become soldiers for Sur 13 or any number of the gangs in East LA.
I was born in East LA. So was my dad. The Mexicans don’t like each other, let alone the Central Americans. The South Ameican and Caribbean community isn’t as big here as on the east coast and Florida, so they don’t figure into the equation much.
From my experience, the vast majority of people from East LA are like most people. They want to stack the paper and party. And on the east side, there are lots of people who don’t worry about the morality of what they have to do in pursuit of money.
This thing will go off only if there are sacrificial victims.
Then it will be Jorge Floyd all over again.
I don’t see any sort of class solidarity amongst the latino community in Los Angeles.
Those are my dos centavos, for what it’s worth.
Thanks for thinking about us!
Brujeria – Matando Güeros

Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 10 2025 3:57 utc | 172

I would make the California trade in a heartbeat. It will be a de facto Mexican State in two decades anyway when the US economy goes tits up, maybe sooner.
My guess is that violence against whites there will increase dramatically which will force an emigration away from there and a relocation of Hispanics in the American heartland to California (the violence perpetrated against whites in Cali will be seen very unfavorably by red-blooded Americans who will give darker skins the boot).
In the future I see America becoming a nation of farmers a la the Jeffersonian ideal with European stock working the land again.
We will be much happier and far less crazy once liberalism peters-out in the states.
(These posts are meant to channel Walker Percy’s novels, especially Live in the Ruins…take it with a grain of salt. As a Catholic, I belive in the equal value of every human soul…but I also believe that due to our fallen nature, we have trouble seeing this and often fall back to racial organization…it doesn’t mean we have to become Hitlers, even though Jews will tell you that every national movement cast a large Hitlerian shadow.)

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 4:02 utc | 173

“Love in the Ruins” not Live in the Ruins

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 4:03 utc | 174

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 4:02 utc | 173
I thought you were channeling Chuck Palahniuk’s Adjustment Day
It starts out okay, but it falls apart.

Posted by: lex talioinis | Jun 10 2025 4:07 utc | 175

Here’s a “come laugh at Aussies” invitation ….
People here in Oz blowing up their socials because Hell has Officially Frozen Over… it’s cold….. so incredibly cold people are outraged they have to wear … clothes!
“Sydney’s Coldest Day in 125 years”… that’s a bonechilling 10c.
Yes, Canada. We’re wimpering and wailing ….is 10c and *everyone* has to post how cold it is and how the world is officially ending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ7dhQwF94I
People trapped in a snow storm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ji-K9WYEpo
Breaking News! Winter is Cold. !OMG ! who knew!

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2025 4:11 utc | 176

@175 Lex
Haven’t read any of him. I did want to read a recent novel of his where a group of ragtag deceased want to talk to the devil about being tricked into hell. “Damned.” Sounded fun.
Will check it out from the library, the only good reason to live in a west coast city.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 4:25 utc | 177

Fight Club is good. Adjustment Day starts off great, but the story falls apart for me. I think the only novelist that captures the world now is Michel Houellebecq. And Irvine Welsh. I hope you are well, and we are both wrong. It’s too bad humans we humans are so violent.
Here’s the 29th Scroll from Planet of the Apes! Beware the beast man…

Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 10 2025 4:31 utc | 178

@172 lex
Yeah, that’s sorta my opinion as well. The Mexicans and central Americans that have come here legally and have worked their ass off probably have mixed feelings about more Mexicans in the states.
For one, it must be difficult for them because Mexicans like Mexican culture. They like the food, they like their women, they like their machismo, and they like their soccer.
They must be very conflicted when seeing the Mexican flag being waved by rioters atop flaming cars. A mixed feeling of pride (remembering) and reticence (concealing).
I worked a government job for a year recently and coincidentally four of the six total were from Mexico and El Salvador. English was serviceable but a language barrier existed. We would eat together at lunch which I dreaded as an introvert but wanted to not alienate myself.
It was awkward them speaking Spanish (their comfortable tongue) in front of me even though I have taken many years of Spanish though can’t seem to break out of beginner’s tongue/baby talk.
Laughingly, they asked one day in a moment of relaxed candor, “Don’t you like Mexicans?” I shrugged my shoulders and said, “Por supuesto.”
I should have responded with “Do you like Americans?”

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 4:37 utc | 179

Melaleuca | Jun 10 2025 4:11 utc | 176
Where’s Greta Thunberg when you need her version of global warming would quickly rectify the situation.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 4:37 utc | 180

Lex talionis,
Thanks for the neighborhood insight. Indeed if the narrative is framed as cholo gang bangers versus decent Our Lady of Guadalupe church folk then those Marines will fight their ethnic kin.
However……if the narrative is flipped to an ethnic narrative, those Marines might refuse.
In any event CALEXIT used to poll ~20%, suspect CALEXIT will be on the Ballot in Nov. 2026. Even Democrat party hacks will be gathering signatures this time around.

Posted by: Exile | Jun 10 2025 4:53 utc | 181

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 4:37 utc | 180
you’re a fake, dude. I encourage b to cross reference the original PeterAU1’s emails and IP/MAC addies to wherever you’re coming from.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2025 4:57 utc | 182

It ends up discrediting the Palestinian cause.
The same can be said with flat-earthers who make the rest of us red-pilled look like uneducated, unprincipled dumbasses.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 9 2025 17:42 utc | 163
Sorry, man. Respectfully disagree here. Gonna have to call bullshit. You’re letting your pre-conceived and pre-conditioned notions of Greta (who might as well be an AI construct as far as I’m concerned) cloud your judgment on what exactly high profile people can do by openly flouting the Chosen People’s “most moral army in the world’s” fake image – and in international waters.
I, for one, cheer Greta and her compatriots full-throatedly in this particular endeavor and if it wakes up some stupid western libs to the lawlessness and evil of the Zionist state, all the better.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2025 5:01 utc | 183

I don’t think I am being unreasonable.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 3:37 utc | 170
Ha ha c’mon man. You’re joking. Have you BEEN to Texas or New Mexico, especially the southern regions of Texas (and all of NM other than the rich lib white person ski resort or art-deco ‘art collection’ towns)?
Bro, Mexicans have been here in Texas for a century longer than my people, and we came over in the late 1500s, then made our way through NY, Indiana and down to TX and AZ. You should come visit the culture. We all get along. Many of them voted for Trump. No judgment one way or the other in this context. Just saying that they are Americans at least as much as you or I are and even the early (white) Scots-Irish/Czech/German Texans got along mostly fine with them barring a few scares and attempts at sowing “racial” chaos.
Again, I halfway think you’re joking. This is the US. Not Sweden, Japan or Hungary. I can actually see the point in those places – at least when overmigration begins to become obvious. I seriously think you miss the whole point of the USA, all its flaws included.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2025 5:07 utc | 184

“For one, it must be difficult for them because Mexicans like Mexican culture. They like the food, they like their women, they like their machismo, and they like their soccer.
They must be very conflicted when seeing the Mexican flag being waved by rioters atop flaming cars. A mixed feeling of pride (remembering) and reticence (concealing).”
Jesus. Burning cop cars after being attacked, or burning Waymos after some stupid white suburban anarchist wannabe set them on fire? LA was Mexico in relatively recent history. It’s interwoven into the social and economic fabric. Sorry to tell you, but not all regions of the US were completely cleansed of other cultures before your people got there (or participated in their cleansing). California did a great job, I must admit. As did the (now) liberal enclaves of Oregon and Washington. But if you hate seeing Mexican flags in your country, conveniently juxtaposed with riot scenes (always provoked by those true sovereign elements of power – the people who get to define the “exception”) then you’re living a dream, man. Throw in the Africans and other people who’ve been here at least as long as mine and your forebears, and if you genuinely think this was ever, or ever would be, a “racially” homogenous country – or at least broken up into convenient culturally or “racially” homogenous zones then you’re quite literally delusional.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2025 5:12 utc | 185

My ghostly presence seems to sidetrack things a bit at the Ukraine thread.
Re Karl. Going by what persiflo said have put Karl in a bad position though no fault of his own. There are quite number of the old names that I had come to greatly respect and like – think of as friends even though I only knew them from this forum. People from all different walks of life. Many with different areas of expertise relevant to their professional careers. I have no memory of it but if I would have contacted anyone here at that time, it would have been Karl.
A completely different circle to those I had associated with throughout life.
My sister… I’m a sucker for punishment and must have offended somebody high up as it seems I am doomed to live. Karl has no explaining to do. he did what any normal person would do in the circumstances. Bit of a bugger that the clock cannot be turned back, but such is life – as the Irishman once said.
Any posts after this may start to deteriorate. Have been awake since 5pm last night and now 3.15pm the next day. Most other systems are returning to normal but body clock doesn’t know if its Arthur or Martha yet, and is all over the place like a mad womens shit.
Made a trip down to the pantry (woolworths) for a bit of sleeping elixir….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 5:21 utc | 186

Re Peter “Lazarus” Au.
His name does *not* appear in the Victoria BDM registry.

Deaths registered per month
The law requires doctors and funeral directors to notify the Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages Victoria (BDM) of deaths.
In the case of a reportable death, the Coroner must notify BDM as soon as practicable after being notified by the doctor.
Deaths are counted in the month we register them.
The deaths may not have occurred in that same month.
Wider data sets are available for purchase. We can extract data with certain criteria, such as a date range.

https://discover.data.vic.gov.au/dataset/deaths-registered-per-month
Is this Peter THE Peter?
Dunno. But the death of a Peter Watson of Gippsland Victoria would be found in the BDM Victoria record . ^
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Also.
Would a troll invest this much commitment to trolling?
Dunno. But most trolls like to do a driveby shit in the front bar and skedaddle.
Mostly. Or do a Tony Off-topic and shit the thread with irrelevant nonsense.
Sticking around for hours/days is not usual troll SOP..
Time will tell, my guess.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 10 2025 5:27 utc | 187

I should have responded with “Do you like Americans?”
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 4:37 utc | 179
That’s the point. They ARE Americans. And think about the follow-on, and much more logical question: “do you like citizens of the You-Knighted States?” They want to BE citizens of this country. For reasons many and varied, but largely tied up in the long-term and recently amplified capitalist/nativist sanctions imposed on their AMERICAN countries by (mostly) Republican politicians like Trump. Venezuelans almost NEVER crossed the border. I know! I work on border fence, infrastructure, and waterborne barrier projects for the last 9 years (original solicitations came out under Obama!). Encounters with Venezuelans were statistically near ZERO until the Trump hypersanctions bit – lagging indictor, man. Ten thousand dollars says you search ‘Moon of Alabama Tom Collins Trump Sanctions Future Venezuelan migration surge” and it returns results on most search engines. I predicted this shit years ago, right here on these pages! And before I get ahead of myself, NO, I’m not apologizing for shit Democrats including Biden or Obama. But Trump himself is responsible for the massive (attempted and actual) influx of Venezuelans during Biden’s first and only term.
I digress. Walls and barriers are akin to MIC boondoggles like fancy stealth bombers and rusty old aircraft carriers. Not to mention the “services” industries like Booz and the think tanks. You have to think root causes if you’re serious about keeping the “undesirables” out (which to many here means anyone who’s not state approved at all times to be within the borders – far and away not just rapists such as the Laken Riley perp). Walls do not work unless we build an Israeli style 24/7/365 system of border security/surveillance backed up by an empowered security state within the metropole. Not exactly something the framers would have approved of. Let alone libertarians or “small government” conservatives. Root cause is the economic warfare waged on (mostly socialist-nationalist) countries in our hemisphere – like Cuba or Venezuela or the Sandinista gov’t.
Good grief, people. Wake the fuck up. Really red-pill yourselves! This is all a game and eventually the walls and surveillance stations, enhanced scrutiny coming INTO the country will be turned around for those of us trying to get OUT.
Oooh, a Mexican flag being uncomfortably waved in my eyes in Los Angeles (or Brownsville or Laredo or even San Antonio) *and don’t they dare criticize the ISRAELIS!* but I reserve the right to wave a Confederate flag and cheer on the coppers cracking down on people otherwise welcomed into CONSERVATIVE peoples’ homes to do renovations and lawn care, etc. because I have a fictional vision of what this country – “AMERICA” – was from the beginning!
God damn, let’s just tear this all down if all that’s really the vision. I am most definitely not hosting any undocumented migrants at my lily white house, but if ICE shows up here without a warrant, it’ll be mini-Waco 2.0 and I promise you that.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2025 5:34 utc | 188

Xinhuanet is showing Russia/Iran integration
Russia to build 8 nuclear plants in Iran: atomic chief
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Completed by Russia in May 2011, the Bushehr plant, Iran’s first and only operational nuclear power facility, has been central to the country’s civilian nuclear energy program and has long involved cooperation with Russia’s state nuclear agency, Rosatom.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 10 2025 5:37 utc | 189

Tom
Tried writing a relevant response before but scrapped it as I could not remember a few terminologies, like resonant frequency and so forth. Fatigue cycles is easy enough to remember. You should study those disciplines before your mighty member falls off. 🙂

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 5:44 utc | 190

Below is a Xinhuanet posting that supports my contention that China is going to become the global manufacture of everything, just because they can
Chinese premier urges efforts to improve transformation of sci-tech achievements
This is how it happens

The transformation of sci-tech achievements connects the innovation chains and the industrial chains, and is often referred to as the “last mile” of technological innovation, Li noted, adding that this process helps create new products, new industries and new growth drivers, and supports the development of new quality productive forces.
It is essential to better coordinate all types of innovation resources, deepen institutional and mechanism reforms, and streamline supply-demand matching channels to achieve greater outcomes in the transformation of sci-tech achievements, thereby better promoting the integrated development of technological innovation and industrial innovation, Li said.
He underscored that greater emphasis should be placed on the real value of sci-tech achievements in serving economic and social development. It is also necessary to further strengthen the leading role of enterprises in innovation and support qualified enterprises in leading or participating in national sci-tech innovation projects.
Moreover, efforts should be made to drive the iterative upgrading of independently developed technologies and products through large-scale application, he added.
Li also stressed that the transformation of sci-tech achievements requires a supportive environment, hence the need to improve supportive policies and market services.

Notice that none of this is about profit for an inherited elite.
The effects of these developments by China will be profound, IMO

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 10 2025 5:46 utc | 191

psychohistorian | Jun 10 2025 5:37 utc | 189
Headlines just recently in Reuters on Iran acquiring Israeli nuclear documents. Bad bad Iran. Part of Lavrov accepting the challenge of hybrid war is my guess. 2 million Russian federation citizens migrated to Israel after the collapse of the Soviet union and the poverty of the 90s. Israel has only seven or eight million population. Bit difficult to think there is not a Russian spook or two in that couple of million – a quarter of Israel’s population.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 5:51 utc | 192

Xinhuanet has a posting up about how China is handling rare earths that I was not aware of
China’s rare earth regulations responsible step toward sustainable global supply, security
Notice carefully the wording

China’s export controls on certain rare earth-related items are not trade barriers targeting specific countries, but a responsible measure to uphold international non-proliferation obligations. Implemented under the principle of non-discrimination, these controls reflect China’s commitment to maintaining global peace and regional stability.
Rare earth elements are not only crucial for manufacturing new energy vehicles, consumer electronics and wind turbines, but also play an indispensable role in advanced military equipment such as fighter jets and nuclear facilities. Preventing such strategic resources from being used to undermine international peace and security is a shared non-proliferation obligation for all nations.
In fact, export controls on dual-use strategic materials are an internationally accepted practice and a legitimate right of sovereign states to safeguard national security and fulfill international responsibilities.

What is the rules based order West going to say about usage controls?
It is interesting to note that trade talks between China and the US are going into their 2nd day in London……I wonder if the above will be discussed?….grin

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 10 2025 5:53 utc | 193

A final posting from Xinhuanet showing the geopolitical game in play
Xi urges China, S. Korea to take strategic cooperative partnership to higher level
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BEIJING, June 10 (Xinhua) — Chinese President Xi Jinping said Tuesday that China and South Korea should promote their strategic cooperative partnership to a higher level.
Xi made the remarks during his talks with South Korean President Lee Jae-myung over phone.
China and South Korea should inject more certainty into regional and international landscape, he said, adding that the two countries should jointly safeguard multilateralism and free trade, and ensure stable and smooth global and regional industrial and supply chains.

South Korea is a empire colony, isn’t it?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 10 2025 5:57 utc | 194

@lex talionis | Jun 10 2025 3:57 utc | 172
Appreciate the up date on Eastern LA from a local – not sure about that musik – and the Directive from Planet of the Apes Central.
Of course, these are all little test runs – ICE on steroids simply provides the particular context for this run – the police have already been militarized – now sidestepping Chief of Police, The Mayor and The State Governor – The Executive is testing the limits of its power in “unpatriotic” citizen control by not only bringing in The National Guard – and really stretching the limit – The Marines – a direct politization of the Armed Forces.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 10 2025 5:58 utc | 195

China’s Energy Transition is a World Historical Breakthrough
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/chinas-energy-transition-world-historical-breakthrough
“As new wind, solar and nuclear capacity have displaced coal generation, China has been able to drastically lower its C02 emissions even as demand for power has increased – the world must take note and get ready to follow…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 10 2025 6:03 utc | 196

Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2025 5:34 utc | 188
The US security state.
The is a video channel I watch. Black opal direct. A second gen opal cutter, his father a migrant to lightning ridge fom Germany. Opal cutting is an art and artists often do dumb stuff, but never the less his was quite good in his area of expertise and put out a video usually once a week.
He travels regularly to the US as the US is a big buyer of australian opal. He does some live videos when rubbing out a small parcel. In the last – in the live chat, an American said he does not blame him for boycotting America.
He said he was not boycotting America, but many Australians had recently been jailed on arrival for not having a full itinerary. He never ever talks about geo-politics but on that occasion he did.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 6:05 utc | 197

Chillax, Tom.
I don’t know what the future holds. But it’s easy to stick your wet finger in the air and feel the wind.
I am making uncomfortable, unPC observations.
My wife and I were taking about Saints and their visions of hell the other night. I told her that perhaps the Saints’ visions of hell were just hyper-realized visions of our current reality, the fractured dissonance we seem to distract ourselves from in our everyday lives.
So it is that I make artistic observations about burgeoning resentment amongst racial minorities and what will happen in the near future when 1) the money printer’s power disappears and 2) those resentful minorities become majorities.
As I said, it’s not supposed to be a perfect approximation of reality, only one man’s struggle to reconcile what he sees/intuits with the facts on the ground, which no one seems to have a good handle on.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 6:11 utc | 198

@ Peter AU1 | Jun 10 2025 5:51 utc | 192 with the comment about Iran getting some Occupied Palestine nuclear and military documents…thx
Professor Marandi from Tehran says that Iran is being quiet about the documents until they can cover the trail of getting them entirely.
I read somewhere that the documents include the location of “hidden” Occupied Palestine military sites, for example.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 10 2025 6:12 utc | 199

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 10 2025 6:11 utc | 198
So funny. “Chillax” actually resonated with me. I guess we really are getting “old” but nowhere near as much as our fellow MoA denizens.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 10 2025 6:18 utc | 200