Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 7, 2025
The Deep State Is Still Sabotaging Presidential Policies

Ambassador M.K. Bhadrakumar reminds us of subtle maneuvers by deep state actors to sabotage presidential policies.

When a U.S. spy plane was shot down over the Soviet Union President Dwight Eisenhower had not be informed about its real mission. The CIA claimed that it had been a weather plane that went off course after its pilot was incapacitated. The president repeated that tale.

The Soviets then published that the wreckage of the U-2 spy plane had been recovered and the pilot captured alive. The Soviets were miffed of being lied to and Eisenhower's attempt of detente with them failed.

Bhadrakumar sees a parallel in the recent Ukrainian drone attacks on strategic bomber on several Russian air field.

President Trump, in a call with the Russian president Putin, claimed that the U.S. had had no knowledge of the attack. That is, as several former CIA members confirm, implausible. The operation had been the making for 18 month which means that it had been initiated under President Biden. U.S. and/or British intelligence was certainly involved in designating the targets.

It seem that Trump, like Eisenhower before him, was not informed and thus embarrassed himself.

While Trump was talking with Putin Russian officials warned that deep state forces within the U.S. have not changed their anti-Russian aims:

Moscow should take very seriously reports that certain circles in the United States want to see Russia destroyed, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said at a news conference at TASS ..

"The fact that certain circles in the United States have been and are still hatching plans to move towards eradicating Russia as a state is also undeniable. It is enough to follow the discussions that are taking place, including on political science platforms. We should not underestimate the consequences of such a mindset," the deputy minister noted.

His comments came in response to the words of Brazilian leader Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva in an interview with Le Monde, who argued that former US President Joe Biden, during his administration, mentioned a desire to destroy Russia.

Ryabkov probably though of an upcoming conference about the 'fracturing states' of 'one of the globe’s last colonial empires', i.e. Russia, by the CIA connected Jamestown Foundation. The invitation to the conference says:

The Kremlin’s imperial ambitions in Ukraine come at the cost of potential mutinies, fracture, and dissolution at home. Understanding the consequences of Russia’s deteriorating internal conditions will be the main topic of the upcoming conference, which will involve experts in foreign affairs, defense, and geopolitics, along with representatives of Russia’s captive nations long-recognized by the United States. Russia is one of the globe’s last colonial empires, denying captive nations the right to self-determination and independence. Whether it remains an aggressive imperial power committed to threatening its neighbors or otherwise devolves into fracturing states, U.S. and allied policymakers cannot afford to ignore Russia’s future.

While Trump is at least somewhat attempting to create better relations with the Russian Federation parts of the foreign policy blob are still dreaming of dismantling it.

We are seeing similar attempts of counteracting presidential policies with regards to China.

On May 11 during trade talks between the U.S. and China in Geneva both sides agreed to calm things down:

Both sides reduced their tariffs. China also promised to reduce some of its non tariff measures:

China will [..] adopt all necessary administrative measures to suspend or remove the non-tariff countermeasures taken against the United States since April 2, 2025.

The financial markets relaxed and everyone was happy about it.

But on May 14, the very same day the new rules were to apply, the U.S. introduced new and extremely harsh measures against Chinese products:

The US Commerce Department issued guidance stating that the use of Huawei Technologies Co’s Ascend artificial intelligence (AI) chips “anywhere in the world” violates the government’s export controls, escalating US efforts to curb technological advances in China.

The agency’s Bureau of Industry and Security said in a statement on Tuesday that it is also planning to warn the public about “the potential consequences of allowing US AI chips to be used for training and inference of Chinese AI models”.

While this may not have been a technical breach of the Geneva agreement it certainly violated the spirit of the agreed upon Joint Statement: …

In consequence China continued to withhold export licensees for rare earth products which U.S. industries need. Trump was furious about this but seemingly without understanding what had caused China to take that step.

On Thursday a phone called between Trump and President Xi tried to calm things down (archived).

The two leaders, speaking for the first time since Trump became president, agreed to another round of high-level trade talks to follow up on the truce reached in Geneva last month, and exchanged invitations for state visits.

Trump said on Truth Social “there should no longer be any questions respecting the complexity of Rare Earth products,” but the Chinese readout didn’t mention the issue.

On Friday, just a day after the president's attempt to calm down trade issues with China, four deep state actors set out to again sabotage him:

The U.S. in recent days suspended licenses for nuclear equipment suppliers to sell to China's power plants, according to four people familiar with the matter, as the two countries engage in a damaging trade war.

The suspensions were sent to companies by the U.S. Department of Commerce, the people said, and affect export licenses for parts and equipment used with nuclear power plants.

Nuclear equipment suppliers are among a wide range of companies whose sales have been restricted over the past two weeks as the U.S.-China trade war shifted from negotiating tariffs to throttling each other's supply chains. It is unclear whether a Thursday call between U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping would affect the suspensions.

Why, just a day after Trump's call with Xi, did 'four people familiar with the matter' found it necessary to inform Reuters of this?

This is, like the withholding of information on CIA operations in Russia, a measure to embarrass the president in eyes U.S. opponents. It is also an obvious attempt to sabotage trade with China.

The Chinese will note that the president's words get counteracted by his administration. Why should they even talk with him when he is not able to impose his own policies on the people who are supposedly working for him?

In consequence U.S. companies will have wo wait longer to be allowed to purchase the rare earth products they urgently need and can only get from China.

Comments

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 8 2025 3:21 utc | 262
Source: what’s left of my brain.
Or do you think the Soviets developed and improved surface to air missiles out of intellectual curiosity, deployed them across the nation and only then did the silly Americans start intruding into their airspace at higher and higher altitudes?

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 8 2025 11:59 utc | 301

Posted by: robin | Jun 8 2025 10:51 utc | 297
And inside Ukraine alone. That’s the point I’m making.

Disingeneous.
The point you were making was not about the theater, but about magnitude of losses, so the question is which side is losing more, Russia or NATO?
Rusia has now more soldiers and more materiel than at the start of the conflict while NATO is close to depleted and need LOTS more spending in defense according to NATO itself.
Regarding the theater, it is nice of NATO to send its treasure, materiel and experts to a theater close to Russia so Russia can destroy all those.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Jun 8 2025 12:21 utc | 302

LOL
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 8 2025 10:53 utc | 298
LOL indeed. Perhaps they can use Bezos’ dong shaped bottle rocket complete with all-female payload.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Jun 8 2025 12:39 utc | 303

How many new military satellites has Russia launched lately? And how much time is spent over the battlefield? I think those satellites played only a small part in the increase in Russian capabilities.
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 8 2025 11:21 utc | 303
I don’t think you understood the important part of my post.
The USA/EU/NATO have more and better satellites than Russia does. Attacking US military satellites only invites an attack on Russian satellites which puts Russia at a disadvantage.
Why would Russia open up a front in space where they are already at a numerical and technological disadvantage? Russia gets a tactical win and a media victory but potentially suffer a huge strategical defeat if they lose space based intelligence, communications and targetting. Aside from the foolishness of starting a fight the Russians won’t win destroying a satellite in orbit over Russia leaves a debris field that spacecraft and ballistic missiles can’t fly through.
In the end time when when the nukes are flying and getting shit into orbit is the least of your worries we can all start shooting down satellites but until we’ve given up on space altogether it’s best not to do something stupid like creating a massive debris field in orbit over your heads.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 8 2025 12:41 utc | 304

I have read some remote viewer/psychic types who claim that the US will become much more decentralized in the future. Consider this relative to the struggles of the Deep State.
If they can’t project power against Iran or Russia or China or whoever they want war with this month, the trend would suggest that maybe one day they can’t really control the states either. Too much debt, too many riots (uh….California today), too much corruption, not enough Union boys to suppress insurrections. I could see this happening (if we live long enough)

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 8 2025 13:06 utc | 305

Posted by: zeke2u | Jun 7 2025 13:53 utc | 44
Regarding the ephemeral Georgian war.
I think the perspective that makes the most sense on this, and other americunt+liberal-fascist+eurorats shenanigans in the so-called “near abroad” is the following.
Looking at them all together as a maximalist program of western exceptionalism.
By the time the RF had no other choice left but to stomp its bear paw onto the Banderreich, what the coke-addled zapadnikis were expecting was such a move being the final overreach over a background of a color-revolutioned White Rus, a permanent front in Georgia, and Satan knows what coming from the direction of central Asia and western China.
However, for some reason or other – even if it’s just Russians being less incompetent than their western counterparts, apparently only one card of the lot played through: the nazi card, that is, Shitkraine.
However, the zapadniki are still reading from the script where all these other dirty moves came to fruition. Which does explain to an extent their disconnect from reality – I guess the rest is explained by supremacism and being high on coke.

Posted by: Arganthonios | Jun 8 2025 13:07 utc | 306

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 7 2025 21:35 utc | 183
As always, thank you.
For better understanding of “deep state”, the shadow power(s), secret societies –
I don’t see any mention of Carroll Quigley, in particular his
The Ango-American Establishment, and Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time

Posted by: JB | Jun 8 2025 13:25 utc | 307

Medvedev:

They were all warned—the green lice and their patrons.
Those who refuse to acknowledge the realities of war at the negotiating table will face new realities on the battleground.
Our Armed Forces have launched an offensive in the Dnepropetrovsk region.
The shagreen skin of the Banderite state continues to shrink.
The great delousing continues.

https://t.me/medvedev_telegramE/78

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 8 2025 13:28 utc | 308

If in your view, US satellites are an inappropriate target for Russia, then in what other way should Russia respond, to deter the West from attacking the Russian strategic triad ever again?
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 8 2025 3:07 utc | 259
Russia isn’t dominant in space based assets. They are quite inferior both in quantity and quality of their satellites.
Shooting down US satellites invites retaliation in kind. It’s not smart to start a fight in which you will damage yourself more than your enemy. You might get a short lived media / tactical victory but such an act won’t do anything to help Russia reach their objectives in Ukraine or promote negotiations for a new security arrangement in Europe.
Shooting down replaceable satellites doesn’t bring back destroyed aircraft and leaves the USA with a choice of either backing down in a very public way or responding with an attack on Russian satellites. In no was does such an attack by Russia achieve any kind of strategic advantage for the Russians and could leave the Russians without any satellites and a debris field over Russia that makes space flight risky to impossible.
Shooting down satellites is what you do just prior to a full blown ICBM strike because at that point no one cares about retaliation against satellites or access to space.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 8 2025 14:00 utc | 309

Posted by: Jason | Jun 8 2025 10:33 utc | 296
Russian moratorium on the deployment of intermediate- and shorter-range missiles has come to an end.
This should have happened in 2019 when USA left the INF Treaty.

How do you know the Russians haven’t been making IRBM’s all along? The west’s intelligence about the number of Russian missiles has been horrible to date … how do you know the Russians don’t have even more than they are showing on the battlefield

Ukraine must be punished by nuclear INF missiles.

What targets would you nuke in Ukraine and how would striking such a target help Russia achieve their objectives in Ukraine?
Posted by: Jason | Jun 8 2025 10:33 utc | 296

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 8 2025 14:11 utc | 310

@Patroklos | Jun 7 2025 23:43 utc
Patroklos: One of your best yet. Fabulous. Keep it going.
Tom

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 8 2025 14:49 utc | 311

I think b is wrong on this and Brian Berletic is 100% right on this.
Only time will tell who called it correctly.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 7 2025 14:09 utc | 56
Why don’t you guys get a room.

Posted by: thomas j cahill | Jun 8 2025 15:17 utc | 312

As I said earlier, since that sunny November day in Dallas 1963…it’s perfectly obvious that the 3LAs are running the show.
At the time [circa 1963] the Democratic party was not entirely subsumed into the Deep State, portions of FDR’s reformation held but, in the end, the DNC was captured and lawfare was used to remove the last of the FDRists. Today, the blue-no-matter-who crowd is the most fervent group supporting the 3LAs, at times publicly threatening opposing public officials with the use of Langley’s terrorist tactics.
And on that subject, it appears that another attempt by the 3LAs to “blossom” a domestic name-your-color revolution is flowering out in LA-land. With BLM having had it’s brand tarnished by it’s obvious timing, a new brand [and minority] was needed. Taxpayer-funded NGOs [notice the 3-letters] have sprung into action with with poll tested slogans on nicely printed signs to be held up in front the cameras while organized riots fill in the background. Lovely. Just what those here calling for “revolution” ardently call for, a national-security-state organized revolution !!!
What’s that you say? You don’t want a national-security-state organized name-your-color revolution? Too bad, when you call for a revolution you’ve no say in what type of revolution you get.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 8 2025 16:47 utc | 313

@HB_Norica | Jun 8 2025 14:00 utc | 312
Thanks for replying, but aren’t you mostly restating your original point? I think I got that one already. So I replied by asking: then what instead? We both cool with hitting the Wiesbaden ops room? 🙂 Maybe stopping the Black Sea target-acquisition flights? The latter could in theory be done without shooting down anything, as long as Russia regains some credibility for a warning “Stop or we will shoot.” Or shoot down a Global Hawk for real, and then the manned flights will stop as well without the need to kill their crews. Remind me again, what was so smart about allowing the West to wage war against Russia? As it is, you aren’t really answering my question. Or is the answer “none of the above”, and has everyone internalized that the West has wrested escalation dominance away from Russia also in the Ukraine conflict?
Logical as your point sounds, I’m beginning to question how far logic will get us if the playas themselves reject it. It just as logical to say “Russia shouldn’t touch the US strategic bomber/AWACS fleet, lest its own smaller fleet gets declared fair game.” (Something similar for early-warning radars.) Sounds reasonable, but as we see the problem is that the other side just goes “To heck with it, we’ll hit you anyway.”
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>>The west’s intelligence about the number of Russian missiles has been horrible to date
Is that a fact? Yes the media chatter suggests it, but do we know what the classified briefings say? Although we seem to live in an era where four-star generals just go with the media chatter–or just as often, generate it. If the boundary between analysis and PR erodes, then my very question loses its meaning. No wonder we’re all a bit confused.

Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 8 2025 16:49 utc | 314

Was it not the home of the VOC?
Posted by: Badjoke | Jun 8 2025 7:54 utc | 283
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No.
Go back to “Go,” smarty-pants.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 8 2025 17:29 utc | 315

Bhadrakumar and Bernhard – two valuable commentators suckered by the tyrant occupying the White House

Posted by: RobertE | Jun 8 2025 18:23 utc | 316

“…If there’s just no Western asset that can be touched without triggering WW III, while said West can touch the Russkies in every orifice it pleases, then maybe this is a good time to accept that the West is the completely superior party here and that Russia is well advised to sign Trump’s ceasefire deal as a face-saving off-ramp?”
Posted by: Ma Laoshi | Jun 8 2025 3:07 utc | 259

I think the name of the game is slow walking. This is probably going to play out over 20 years, with each side slogging along, punctuated with ‘shockers’ to keep it interesting. Everyone wants this to keep going for profit.
I read China and Russia have signed a tech/space cooperation agreement. But I am wondering most about Iran. A few weeks ago, on Nima’s, Ritter was worked up, saying Iran did not realize that saying things like, ‘we are one month away from bomb level enrichment,’ would get them the Iraq treatment. Meaning extreme bombardment of cities and critical infrastructure. I understand their nuclear stuff is a mile underground, but wrecking everything else would put a crimp in things. The West/US is at the point that if they don’t take out Iran while they can (if they can) they will have another nuked-up country. (channeling the Neocons, not endorsing)

Posted by: freedom fritos | Jun 8 2025 19:22 utc | 317

Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 8 2025 12:41 utc | 307
Actually I agree with you that it doesn’t make sense for Russia to shoot down US satellites. That is why I did not comment on that part of your post.
We have been told repeatedly on MOA that Russia is winning. If true, why drag in a new opponent?
I think it is true that Russia is ‘winning’, just at a cost to Russia that is orders of magnitude higher than Putin ever believed. However, if this thing drag on long enough into the future some other event could occur that changes that. Which is why I have said for years on MOA it’s better for Russia to get this over faster.

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 8 2025 22:31 utc | 318

Shooting down US satellites invites retaliation in kind. It’s not smart to start a fight in which you will damage yourself more than your enemy.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Jun 8 2025 14:00 utc | 312

You are contradicting yourself … if Russia has fewer satellites, then by definition they also have less to lose … and presumably also less dependency. Space junk does not just hang around one country you know … the way orbits work is the bits spread out over every country.
I would argue that it is easier to break stuff in space than it is to operate a working satellite network … therefore if smashing satellites becomes the new norm, then all parties lose access to space as a platform. Russia probably has more interest in maintaining good international relations and for that reason won’t push this destructive outcome … but from a strategic perspective it would level the playing field.

Posted by: Tel | Jun 9 2025 1:01 utc | 319

Russia doesn’t have a few satellites. Iran has a handful, and China has many. China’s big focus these days is space, not Trump’s tariffs.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 9 2025 1:09 utc | 320

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 8 2025 16:47 utc | 316
I’m waiting for the useful idiots to gather on the Westside of LA. No sign yet.
I can just imagine the conversations going on with the production of this spontaneous protest.
“The Brown Revolution just doesn’t have a ring. Humm. What could work on the t-shirts with Ché and Hasta la Victoria Siempre we’re having printed?”
“You mean the ones for the people delivering the pallets of bricks?”
“No. Not them, dummy. It’s been harder than usual. I think it’s so horrible Spanish has male and female genders for their words. Well, at least victory is female.”
“Hey, I take offense to that.”
“And we have to avoid mentioning Cesar Chavez. He used the wetback word a long time ago, and some people remember. I feel like I need a shower just saying it.”
“Yeah, Dolores Huerta mentioned that to me when one of the girls at her non-profit was doing our nails.”
“I hear Cypress Hill is going to collaborate with Dr. Dre on the song about ICE killing our sacrificial victim once that’s dealt with! They’re just leaving a space once we get the name.”
“¡Qué magnífico!”

Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 9 2025 1:38 utc | 321

Posted by: ed4 | Jun 8 2025 22:31 utc | 321
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Who is the new opponent? This has been a war between America and Russia from the jump years ago when they began expanding NATO under Clinton.
The notion that Ukraine could fight Russia is ridiculous.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 9 2025 1:48 utc | 322

Russia is one of last colonial empires..
Yeah, right. Everything US says goes by Goebbels’s “accuse enemies of crimes you are doing yourself”.

Posted by: Abe | Jun 9 2025 7:04 utc | 323

@ Aleph_Null 70
While I don’t disagree with much of what you wrote, the following might be completely wrong:
“Expecting something thoughtful like foreign-policy from such a vacuous cranial cavity is like expecting great music from a smashed harmonica: Naga happen.”
Even with the extreme sh*t show of Trump 2.0, it’s still possible that this impaired elderly politician might believe he needs to look like more of a fool than he actually is, to avoid getting JFK’d and to somehow get his bills through “our” Israelified Congress. No matter what you think of Trump, you have to admit he became president of an insane asylum by popular vote.
Trump may or may not know various truths, but if he did say some of the deeper truths, he could be dead in a few hours. Does anyone doubt that ?
So what I’m asking is (1) That you expand your range of possibilities worth considering, and (2) To be wary of any unthinking reflex to vilify Trump – because that’s what a lot of evil people want you to do. Trump has the blood of 300,000 murdered Palestinians on his hands, and of Qasem Soleimani in 2020, so Trump can’t possibly be an angel. Trump may be more of a dark knight than the “gray knight” which some respected pundits said last week. But try to keep an open mind and be cautious leaping to quick conclusions. Important events are happening behind closed doors, although just how important remains to be seen. It’s significant that Moscow and Beijing both support Trump at a certain level, and I for one, think they have more information than we at the bar, and spend even more time evaluating that information than we do.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Jun 9 2025 16:25 utc | 324

@ steel_porcupine 76
“enabling the proxy to attack the airborne-leg of Russia’s nuclear triad was the Deep State’s version of delivering a dead fish to DJT wrapped in butcher’s paper: you’re next.
This is the most concise description I’ve seen, and robably the most accurate. There were many targets in Russia with far more military relevance for the Ukie military, so this “silly” choice says a lot. A wrapped-up dead fish, indeed. Thank you.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Jun 9 2025 16:32 utc | 325