Gawd! Shades of Montgomery Burns of 'The Simpsons'.

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Jun 16 2025 14:24 utc | 1

Notice how they use the tax payer money myth every time.

But never when it's war.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My taxes won't pay for a penny of it because they are destroyed as soon as they are collected. It's not the Eurozone. The UK is fully monetary sovereign and issues the £.

The question should be is it a waste of the scientists time and shouldn't they be doing something else ?

The real resources being used , should they not be being used for something else .

UK Government spending - The Gory details

Here:

https://new-wayland.com/blog/uk-government-spending-gory-details/

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 16 2025 14:26 utc | 2

fantastic.. Rub the UK out in one dark go.. leave it to the Russians....The UK must have known this was going to happen, they started Israel so its citizens could move there.

Posted by: snake | Jun 16 2025 14:26 utc | 3

Western countries don't seem to have much going for them outside of money printing, propaganda, violence, thievery and treachery. A big war is required out of desperation. Maybe this is why Miriam arranged to have perhaps the most divisive, polarizing individual on earth as the spineless face of this.

Before too long, everyone will be against everyone else.

Posted by: chunga | Jun 16 2025 14:27 utc | 4

these propaganda monstors are very tiring... now that they have AI to add to their box of tricks, it is a good reason to unplug from the internet and world...

Posted by: james | Jun 16 2025 14:34 utc | 5

God permanently blocked the sun over Britain when he created the universe
/s there is no “God”

Posted by: nwwoods | Jun 16 2025 14:34 utc | 6

See how good chatgpt is

Why This Matters

Same technology is praised or vilified—based only on who uses it.
This reflects a common media pattern:
“If we do it, it's for our survival. If others do it, it’s an existential threat.”
This is a classic framing double standard, not a reflection of the technology’s merit but of narrative control and tribal bias in media.
🧠 Bottom Line
The coverage isn’t about geoengineering—it’s about who is trusted to use it.
When Western-aligned scientists dim the sun don’t forget—it’s for humanity.
When non-Western actors do the same—it must be a weapon.

Posted by: Cable Guy | Jun 16 2025 14:34 utc | 7

Well, it took these fuckers long enough to worry about it.

Were I in charge of Russia or the US, I would have made it absolutely crystal-clear from the get-go that I wouldn't tolerate such crazy experiments and, since the sky is basically our common good, I wouldn't hesitate to nuke the heck out of any country who would allow such a scheme.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Jun 16 2025 14:44 utc | 8

The land of fog and drizzle... reflecting the sun.... jeez if they ever saw the sun, they'd run an hide in the black hole of the city of london.

This watching the grand chessboard. So much time spent filling in time waiting for a player to make the next move.

The Persians now awaiting uncle sam to step into the trap so guess now we await uncle sam's move.

Will the dumb giant step into the thunderdome? The Brit midget will be left pissing in the wind if it does.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 14:48 utc | 9

Russia and the UK are signatories to the Environmental Modification Convention of 1977, which explicitly bans such weapons. So, as usual, the bloviating amounts to a whole lot of nothing.

Posted by: Strannik | Jun 16 2025 14:51 utc | 10

If it is not nuclear war , citizens are threatened with then its climate change . But newspapers l need to make money . Seems like British rulers wish only dark cloudy skies . Perhaps dark cloudy grey drizzle with help change the colour of the Britain’s newest citizens to creamy white.

Posted by: Cheryl | Jun 16 2025 14:51 utc | 11

'Climate Change'
'Covid'
Proxy war on Russia in Ukraine
Genocide in Gaza using using 'Israel'
Proxy war on Iran using 'Israel'

If you thought any of these were about anything else but power, think again.

By the way, regarding climate, the climate has always been changing, it is only 'climate deniers' who insist it is dead and constant.

The second half of the 20th century was characterized by extra high solar activity (that is why the 'scientists' produce 30 year trends pointing upwards to prove the end of the world is coming unless we give them more power or money). Right now we are entering a phase of long term reduced solar activity (a new grand solar minimum) with colder temperatures, not warmer.

All the arguments about 'fossil fuels' (that aren't 'fossil'), CO2 etc. are criminally fraudulent.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 14:56 utc | 12

snake | Jun 16 2025 14:26 utc | 3

Nah. The brits offshored their poor back in the 1850's. A few young men of territory family capital came out as well. They were known as he squatters.

Until Trump 1.0 we were relatively safe from being fried in a nuclear winter. Wasn't too many nuke targets in the southern hemisphere.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 14:58 utc | 13

The left always walk into the fascist and libtard trap with their eyes wide open.

If you say stupid things like " U.S. Taxpayers fund the war against Russia or Israel"

You have already lost the debate and the fascists and libtards have won.

Because if you do ever win an election, you have hamstrung yourself with your own ignorance.

When you want to do left wing things you have been captured by - " How are you going to pay for it ? "

You can't tell the truth and say by simply crediting bank accounts and Issuing the £ from thin air.

Because for decades you have already lied by saying " U.S. Taxpayers fund the war against Russia or Israel"

Now you are entrapped by your own lies.

In private, George Galloway knows the truth and explained in detail how money works. When we did a presentation for the Workers party last year.

Yet, in public every week promotes the tax payer money myth on you tube.

Bonkers !

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 16 2025 14:58 utc | 14

Strangely enough, when that announcement was made by Britain, we experienced what seemed like exactly that on the very day here in sunny central California. The day was odd enough that my wife texted me a picture from her office window of a latticework sky, with more contrails than you would ever expect to see and she wanted to show me. When I stepped outside they had all spread a good bit. After a fashion the sky was completely unusual to me, a complete haze rather than cloudy or clear (most normal, this is a hot spot and clouds can be kind of scarce) the nature of which was unfamiliar to me, although gray overcast days seemed the rule in my youth, they werent like this.
If Britain was going to test their tech as they announced it, I believe this was a testing ground, although who and why are certainly open to interpretation. Completely unlikely that the usual suspects are concerned about mitigating the climate damage they vigorously incur. More likely some defense/offense capability being explored. They dont mind experimenting in these parts. And not a word was said locally.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jun 16 2025 14:59 utc | 15

"UK to pay for less sun" is a cynical way to put it but unfortunately an honest one. Can't stop producing carbon dioxide waste? No worries, we'll have an orbital barrage of reflective dishes to send those pesky solar rays somewhere else. Vitamin D? You can take pills for that, and lower your skin cancer risk. Maybe the marginal savings from skin cancer treatment from the NHS will help pay for the orbital reflectors.

@ Posted by: Not Ewe | Jun 16 2025 14:59 utc | 15

Very possible that the world powers want to test a solar weapon, a big reflector or magnifier that can be pointed to any coordinates on Earth and boil off a city block or two.

Posted by: fnord | Jun 16 2025 15:09 utc | 16

I still drink a bit much I guess.

A couple of things I'd like to say though, in black and white, loud and clear.
For those who doubted my username - not an issue. Very understandable under the circumstances.

The known usernames- the couch potatoes that laid the boot into Iran because they thought Iran was down.... the couch potatoes that believe Russia and China are not doing enough.
Bloody despicable - like the contents of a brit sewer.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 15:10 utc | 17

Today on TV, they are saying they are going to cut £5 billion from welfare. That the full monetary sovereign monopoly issuer of the £ has run out of £'s.

PMSL!

90% of households believe them. Brainwashed out of their tiny little minds.

As they keystroked £billions to Ukraine, during covid and bailing out the banks.

The magic money tree only works when it aligns with the politics of the establishment. Funny that ain't it.

The Truth.. The British state is a magic money tree.

Here:

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/economy/2022/05/why-british-state-is-magic-money-tree

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 16 2025 15:11 utc | 18

@ Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 16 2025 15:11 utc | 18

MMT produces inflation and little else. Welfare stateism funded out of redistribution of capitalist (and labor aristocratic) wealth, at least, tamps inflation down because taxation is anti-inflationary. Money creation intuitively increases the rate of inflation, ceteris paribus, and also does nothing to stem the growing command of labor-power by the capitalist class.

Louisiana's Huey Long had a good set of ideas, for a bourgeois reformist. A confiscatory income tax on all "earnings" over a million dollars would be a good place to start. "Every man a king, but no one wears a crown." That could be a great slogan for this decadent era.

Posted by: fnord | Jun 16 2025 15:15 utc | 19

I'm slow on the uptake. thatguy-Wisco. Would that be correct Wisco?
You're an oddball but whatever. Don't get your panties in a knot.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 15:18 utc | 20

Russia and the UK are signatories to the Environmental Modification Convention of 1977, which explicitly bans such weapons. So, as usual, the bloviating amounts to a whole lot of nothing.
Posted by: Strannik | Jun 16 2025 14:51 utc | 10

The US is a signatory to the Biological and Chemical Weapon Treaty of 1972, which explicitly bans any work on bioweapons.

How's that working out for us?

Posted by: wagelaborer | Jun 16 2025 15:19 utc | 21

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 14:56 utc | 12
Did you come up with your theory at home on the kitchen couch, or did it underwent peer review? If the latter, then bring it out!

Posted by: Northern Eve | Jun 16 2025 15:27 utc | 22

Sun Tzu; When fighting British, wait for tea-time is served and then bring on clouds - and watch them run for cover.

Posted by: Stonebird | Jun 16 2025 15:31 utc | 23

What a waste of £800 million plus quid - if, infact any of the taxpayers cash actually goes on this hairbrained scheme. Its a case of I know, lets pretend we can dim the sun, and then say Russia is doing the same to start a war with us.

I'd, rather see the money going on an investigation into the English PM's Ukrainian Rent Boys, which the British media is running away from - or a D-Notice has been thrown over it.

https://nitter.poast.org/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1934560104260477066#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 15:34 utc | 24

https://www.climateviewer.news/p/banning-chemtrails-how-to-win?r=q7mlf&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

State Laws Can Ban Weather Modification, but Geoengineering’s a Different Beast—Here’s Why

Posted by: osi not ossi | Jun 16 2025 15:37 utc | 25

Stonebird (24).

I think it was Noel Coward who sang that - Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun.

The lyrics, altogether now.

"In tropical climbs there are certain times of day
When all the citizens retire to take their clothes off and perspire.
It's one of the rules that the greatest fools obey,
Because the sun is much too sultry
And one must avoid its ultry-violet ray.
The natives grieve when the white men leave their huts,
Because they're obviously, definitely nuts!
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun,
The Japanese don't care to, the Chinese wouldn't dare to,
Hindus and Argentines sleep firmly from twelve to one
But Englishmen detest a siesta.
In the Philippines they have lovely screens to protect you from the glare.
In the Malay States, there are hats like plates which the Britishers won't wear.
At twelve noon the natives swoon and no further work is done,
But mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun.
It's such a surprise for the Eastern eyes to see,
that though the English are effete, they're quite impervious to heat,
When the white man rides every native hides in glee,
Because the simple creatures hope he will impale his solar topee on a tree.
It seems such a shame when the English claim the earth,
That they give rise to such hilarity and mirth.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo
hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee
hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm hmm (intake breath)
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun.
The toughest Burmese bandit can never understand it.
In Rangoon the heat of noon is just what the natives shun,
They put their Scotch or Rye down, and lie down.
In a jungle town where the sun beats down to the rage of man and beast
The English garb of the English sahib merely gets a bit more creased.
In Bangkok at twelve o'clock they foam at the mouth and run,
But mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun.
Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday sun.
The smallest Malay rabbit deplores this foolish habit.
In Hong Kong they strike a gong and fire off a noonday gun,
To reprimand each inmate who's in late.
In the mangrove swamps where the python romps
there is peace from twelve till two.
Even caribous lie around and snooze, for there's nothing else to do.
In Bengal to move at all is seldom ever done,
But mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the midday...
out in the midday...
out in the midday...
out in the midday...
out in the midday...
out in the midday...
out in the midday sun."

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 15:39 utc | 26

"All the arguments about 'fossil fuels' (that aren't 'fossil'), CO2 etc. are criminally fraudulent."

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 14:56 utc | 12

Amen.

Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 15:51 utc | 27

Is Britain still swallowing this horrible nonsense ?

Posted by: WMG | Jun 16 2025 15:59 utc | 28

The proposal is for putting SO2 into the stratosphere. The Stratosphere rapidly diffuses SO2 over whichever hemisphere it is introduced into in about 3 months. After 2 years it will equalize with the other hemisphere. There is no way to make something like the proposal into a targeted effect. Stupid.
SRM with SO2 is a dumb way of doing things. Replacing maize with filberts in the temperate zone growing regions would stabilize global temps in both directions if that is what you wanted to do.
However that is not the problem with rapidly increasing CO2 in the atmosphere. Ocean acidification is the serious problem with rapidly increasing CO2 levels as it fucks with the reproductive cycle of mollusks. Happened in previous events in geological history were vulcanism has pushed CO2 up rapidly. However we don't really spend any resources on working out the particulars of that problem. You know like how long it takes before it becomes serious as the geological record is not exactly a high resolution instrument. Or perhaps if we can trigger adaptive change in mollusks in lab populations that can be reintroduced to the wild and thus ignore it. Nope. Tech solutions that are more expensive than just having people paint their roofs white and don't work anyway.

Posted by: Badjoke | Jun 16 2025 16:05 utc | 29

The Western capitalist elite would sooner destroy the sun & Earth rather than change their fossil fuel profiteering and consumption habits. Blotting out the sun is fatally flawed just like other speculative climate "shortcut" technologies such as Carbon Capture. Even a fractional reduction in light reaching the Earth will be devastating for agriculture worldwide.

Posted by: hecatompylos | Jun 16 2025 16:07 utc | 30

Definitely off Topic but, it is the current trend

To summarize events of the last 6 months:

1] A Pro-Israeli-Jew with a residence in ex-ukrainia wants to convince Trump that the USA should fight Russia to save ex-ukrainia's ass and all of England thinks this is a "brilliant" idea.

2] An Israeli-Polish-American-Jew with a residence in Israel wants to convince Trump that the USA should fight Russia=> Iran to save ex-ukrainia's=> Israel's ass and all of England thinks this is a "brilliant" idea.

Of course the chorus of commenters consumed with TDS will claim that Trump is the antagonist and that ex-ukrainia, Israel and England were all innocent lambs...prior to 22 Jan 2024..yes...yes...of course..of course, it's not you who are delusional, up really is down and wet really is dry.

Posted by: S Brennan | Jun 16 2025 16:14 utc | 31

Badjoke | Jun 16 2025 16:05 utc | 30

Mad dogs and the mid day sun. If I was doing physical work in the summer, I would be out on the job waiting for enough light to see and worked to eleven. I painted everything white as anything not white was too hot to pick up without gloves by 9am.

That last summer I was ther, I had got crook and sat in front of the aircon. That summer, every day was above 46C for six weeks straight. My son was fencing on tha property at the time and he would dick about in the shed till 9 then head off fencing. He simply did not feel the heat.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 16:17 utc | 32

A confiscatory income tax on all "earnings" over a million dollars would be a good place to start.

So when an older couple in retirement who sell their paid off home …..they get hit with a confiscatory incime tax bite ?

Posted by: Exile | Jun 16 2025 16:21 utc | 33

to Norwegian #12. Yes, the lies about "CO2" are criminally fraudulent. It's amazing that people don't see that. CO2 is plant food. Plants liberate O which is OXYGEN which we all need to breathe. No CO2 = no plants. No plants = no life. Worse: the toxins that Perfidious Albion, Gates of Hell etc plan to use include aluminum which poisons the soil, barium, aka heavy metal, and the sulfur compound which produces acid rain.

So the question is: How can these "people" be so delusional? So suicidal? So genocidal?

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 16 2025 16:34 utc | 34

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 16:17 utc | 33

In 1987 I built a mini warehouse in Port Richey, Florida . In the summer my crew we began at 5 am and worked to 11 30 am and called it a day. It was about 5 miles inland from the Western Florida coast and did it get hot.

The first week or so we started at 8 am and worked to 12 with a one hour lunch break. The guys would walk over to the corner store and buy a six pack and drink it. It was too hot and they were no good for afternoon work.

So I made a change-I bribed them with the new schedule and bought them each 4 beers after 11 30 so I got 100% participation.

Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 16:36 utc | 35

Re dimming the Sun, I'm very glad someone is taking global warming seriously, not just saying "it ai'nt happening! It ain't happening!" That didn't repair a leaky roof that I know of and it won't solve our climate change problem, either. I am a little surprised that Britain is doing this and not China, but it's a good experiment.

Posted by: lester | Jun 16 2025 16:46 utc | 36

The US patents are available for reading by the public. There are 267 Weather Modification Patents out there. I noticed the stripes in the skies years and years ago. There are a myriad of capabilities that have been tested and are testing that cause resulting weather events. It is unknown whether or not some of these awful events happening here in the US are being done on us by our own or that it is weather wars ongoing between countries.

Posted by: lindaamick | Jun 16 2025 16:52 utc | 37

Dim the Sun my ass......it's a military chaffing exercise, either to prepare for the aerial attack on Russia or that will be the cue for when the attack takes place.

They spray metal particulate into the atmosphere during military exercises to interfere with radar.....just another duck they are lining up.....

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Jun 16 2025 16:53 utc | 38

The Chinese are just as evil! They hide their submarines underwater!!

Posted by: Surferket | Jun 16 2025 17:21 utc | 39

Dim Sun? Isn’t that just deep-fried pastry snacks? Popular as street food???

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 16 2025 17:28 utc | 40

Inane idiocy.
England needs to be flushed down the drain.

Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 16 2025 17:46 utc | 41

Re dimming the Sun, I'm very glad someone is taking global warming seriously, not just saying "it ai'nt happening! It ain't happening!" That didn't repair a leaky roof that I know of and it won't solve our climate change problem, either. I am a little surprised that Britain is doing this and not China, but it's a good experiment.

Posted by: lester | Jun 16 2025 16:46 utc | 36

You are wrong.

The climate has always been changing.

In the last 2 million years we have had 17 ice ages-ice ages are the real threat not more carbon.it get colder then it gets waremer its sa CYCL thanks to the wobble in the erath sphere.

Educate yourself.

At the end of the last ice age 15,000 years ago or so, there were perhaps 2 MM humans ; now there are 8 billion-thanks to more carbon to grow plants.

Don't be a moron.

Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 17:48 utc | 42

People are incredibly naïve.
Look how many took the vax, and you get a good idea of the number of flatfooted.

Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 16 2025 17:57 utc | 43

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 16 2025 16:34 utc | 34

"They have been brainwashed by teachers, profs and the Media-if anyone even does a cursory examination of the scientific merits of 'anthropomorphic climate change' they will understand its a big scam.

DON"T BE A SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 17:57 utc | 44

WTF happened to the education system?

Posted by: DM: | Jun 16 2025 18:07 utc | 45

The proposal is for putting SO2 into the stratosphere.

Posted by: Badjoke | Jun 16 2025 16:05 utc | 29

After forcing billions to be spent o SO2 reduction from shipping...

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 16 2025 18:12 utc | 46

Dim Sun? Isn’t that just deep-fried pastry snacks? Popular as street food???
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 16 2025 17:28 utc | 40

Not to worry. Many hands make light work.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 18:13 utc | 47

If it were entertaining to see absolute morons deny the reality of everyone's thermometer readings, while conflating the stupidest notions with some sort of wisdom, I could just sit back and enjoy the sudden return of MTM and denihlism.
Unfortunately I was educated on the cusp of the environmental dumbdown, and saw Exxon's research just the way the far more complicit US govt did. For random fools to contest what anyone's lying eyes and sweat glands suggest seems a worthless issue, but here it comes. Wiser morons who may not have the latitude to appreciate the imminent danger have the temerity to call names.
Almost as if the notion of a Greenland grab has shit to do with it. YOU ARENT THAT DUMB. You are that dishonest. If only with your foolish selves.
No, the US Government, the Democratic Party and other petroleum/energy consortiums have no concern for what THEY are doing, but they are looking for greener pastures.
I only hope Mexico invades US before we invade Canada.
No use for it, myself.
But I love a good Relleno.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Jun 16 2025 18:13 utc | 48

canuk | Jun 16 2025 16:36 utc | 35

Humidity would also be high in a place like that. Smokes and beer are currency in the working mans world. Cheers.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 18:18 utc | 49

Russia launches 200+ drones towards Ukraine Tu-95 and Tu-22 Russian strategic bombers in the air heading for Ukraine.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 19:20 utc | 50

@ Peter AU1 | Jun 16 2025 18:13 utc | 47

Confucius didn’t say: “Switch on wall make light work”...

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 16 2025 19:40 utc | 51

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 16 2025 19:20 utc | 50

recklessness is expensive, the about 30 loads in the air going to the middle east are reckless

Posted by: Macpott | Jun 16 2025 19:50 utc | 52

So far we had Hot Shots and Idiocracy turned into real life. Looks like UK wants to show us that Highlander 2 wasn't just a bad movie. If I buy Trump's watch as advertised during the parade, will I see the time in the dark?

Posted by: rk | Jun 16 2025 19:51 utc | 53

G7 nations: (meeting in Canada right now)
>DJT USA
>Mark Carney (CAN)
>Friedrich Merz (GER)
>Keir Starmer (UK)
>Giorgia Meloni (ITA)
>Emmanuel Macron (FRA)
>Shigeru Ishiba (JAP)
+
BRICS Members:
>Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva (BRA)
>Narendra Modi (IND)
>Cyril Ramaphosa (SA)
+
Everyone’s favourite Kiev kleptomaniac klown
>Volodymyr Zelenskyy (UKR)
+
Hangers on/ sycophants/ suckers on the sidelines:
>Anthony Albanese (AUS) (being set up as the pacific-ukraine for a war against China)
>Claudia Sheinbaum (MEX) (being used for an internal civil war)
>Lee Jae-myung (SK) ( being set up for a war against China)
+
Entities that aren’t even countries
>António Costa (EU)
>Ursula von der Leyen (EU)
>Mark Rutte (NATO)
>António Guterres (UN)
>Ajay Banga (World Bank)

With all these attending G”7”…. What’s the point of the G20?

Also… Trump says he/ the U$ can’t/ won’t attend G20 because host country is South Africa, but then Ramaphosa turns up at the G7.
So long BRICS, nice idea someone had, was a shame you couldn’t see past immediate self interest ….. sell outs …. One and all.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 19:51 utc | 54

Washington cancels Russia-US meeting on eliminating irritants — Foreign Ministry

As Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova noted, the Russian side hopes the pause they have taken will not last too long
MOSCOW, June 16. /TASS/. A planned meeting between Russia and the United States aimed at resolving ongoing diplomatic tensions has been canceled at Washington’s initiative, Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said.
"The next round of bilateral consultations focused on eliminating 'irritants' and normalizing the functioning of diplomatic missions has been canceled at the initiative of the US side," Zakharova stated.
"We hope the pause they have taken will not last too long," she added.
On February 27 and April 10, two rounds of negotiations took place in Istanbul, focusing on restoring the functionality of the Russian and US embassies and addressing various bilateral concerns. During these consultations, Darchiev led the Russian delegation, while Sonata Coulter, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, headed the US team.

Maybe, given how TrumpTeamTrix were busy negotiating with Iran and allowed Israel to attack… maybe it’s safer if Trump *doesn’t* talk to Russia… or anyone

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 20:00 utc | 55

If Israel can kill the high military and security leaders of Iran with no second thoughts then what is Putin doing sitting on his back side and not doing anything to the M15 head and other British army spy agencies? After all it is British plotted Ukraine war like most wars.
But wait. Putin even after giving warning to West 8 months in advance before Feb 2022, did not prepare her army and did not have any worthwhile drones.

Posted by: Sam | Jun 16 2025 20:02 utc | 56

Ma said, "many hands make light work."

Posted by: freedom fritos | Jun 16 2025 20:17 utc | 57

Dimming the sun. Sunny today but not something you can count on in the Sceptred Isle. Do they think we don't get enough cloudy days?

Posted by: Waldorf | Jun 16 2025 20:42 utc | 58

Helensky is really not the preferred child of the neocons ... 404 is stroke every night and nobody seems to care anymore.
I wonder how it will motivate soldier Konskripovyi in his trench ...

Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Jun 16 2025 21:12 utc | 59

Speaking of Mad Dogs, the latest plan by the Brits is to fire a couple of Russian torpedoes at a US Navy vessel in the Baltic Sea with 1 exploding in a safe distance and the other a dud to provide proof it's Russian.

Posted by: Suresh | Jun 16 2025 21:14 utc | 60

Russia can, if needed, continue to release gases that destroy the ozone layer knowing it mostly harms pro-US Australia and NZ where skin cancer rates are high.

Posted by: Jason | Jun 16 2025 21:39 utc | 61

Moron media.
What absolute vacuous shyte

Posted by: jpc | Jun 16 2025 21:56 utc | 62

DON"T BE A SHEEPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: canuk | Jun 16 2025 17:57 utc | 44

The sheep are those who do not understand the effects of greenhouse gases and their current origins.

Posted by: Naive | Jun 16 2025 22:38 utc | 63

People are incredibly naïve.
Look how many took the vax, and you get a good idea of the number of flatfooted.

Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 16 2025 17:57 utc | 43

In France more than 80%. It gives you an idea of the level.

Posted by: Naive | Jun 16 2025 22:48 utc | 64

I see ... so if the £800 million allocated to the experiment is actually spent on it and its attendant costs, and none of it ends up with MI6, GCHQ, Porton Down and the other usual suspects (in Britain and abroad), the experiment then goes ahead and is successful, then Britain can claim credit.

If however, the experiment goes ahead and is either unsuccessful or results in a huge catastrophe - such as London being flooded for several weeks, let's say, and several addresses (like 85 Albert Embankment in Vauxhall) and postcodes (like SW1A 1AA) go underwater suddenly with everyone inside the respective buildings unable to escape - then the experiment may be blamed on Russia or any other designated enemies like China or Iran.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jun 16 2025 23:42 utc | 65

Ma said, "many hands make light work."

Posted by: freedom fritos | Jun 16 2025 20:17 utc | 57

how many natos to change a light-bulb?

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 16 2025 23:44 utc | 66

Ma said, "many hands make light work."

Posted by: freedom fritos | Jun 16 2025 20:17 utc | 57

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Many skilled hands make work easier. If not skilled, it is easier done alone.

Posted by: suzan | Jun 17 2025 0:32 utc | 67

X-hours_y-mins to fat-uous humiliation of Albanese by Trumplard+TrumpTeamTrix at G7.
Just how bad is it gonna be?
Given what is already extracted from Oz by the U$ for “required” defence spending, I’m already incensed the (ridiculously idiotic and one-sided) AUKUS subs deal is being used as a bludgeon to extort *more* money from us…
§ if we can prevaricate for a year or two, Trump surely will have blown himself up with all his trade deals and tariffs, Israel-Iran, and accelerating domestic unrest.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 0:38 utc | 68

UPDATE: Anticipated Albanese meeting terrifies the Don. (😎) he flees to DC.
Albanese-Trump meeting cancelled as US president leaves G7 amid Israel-Iran tensions
“A scheduled meeting between Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and US President Donald Trump on the sidelines of the G7 summit will not take place.”
Source: all Oz media….😂

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 1:48 utc | 69

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 16 2025 19:51 utc | 54
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And what do you think all those countries have in common?

Posted by: pepe | Jun 17 2025 2:39 utc | 70

Danny Dyer voice: "Mollusks you clams!" :D

I will point out that we still have mollusks despite the past.

They've been around since the Cambrian period, that's half a billion years. Billion not million. The Earth has been through a lot in that time.

"Molluscs have more varied forms than any other animal phylum. They include snails, slugs and other gastropods; clams and other bivalves; squids and other cephalopods; and other lesser-known but similarly distinctive subgroups."

You have likely voted for one, at least once XD

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 17 2025 2:52 utc | 71

Newbie @ 66:

Many jokes about racism and racists can easily be repurposed as jokes about NATO and the EU.

Example:
Q: Why was Mark Rutte invited to the waste management and recycling conference?
A: He has experience in talking and regurgitating rubbish.

BTW, the answer to yr question @ 66 is none, as NATO prefers to stay in the dark over being enlightened.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jun 17 2025 3:07 utc | 72

Ok this may be why Trump scrambled to DC.
KC- 135 stratotanker down *crashes (?)* off Iranian coast
3 ships in straits of Hormuz burning after Iranian attack.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 3:15 utc | 73

how many natos to change a light-bulb?

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 16 2025 23:44 utc | 66
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One. But they'll use a hammer.

Posted by: freedom fritos | Jun 17 2025 3:22 utc | 74

Forget the Epstein files.
The claim: Iran hacked the Mossad mother-load
https://x.com/tpvsean/status/1934340625479934430?t=LUjXgE5UTeZmkAZHpJh-rA&s=19

Mossad's VIP Pedophile Blackmail Material Hacked by Iran Days Before Israel Declared War
Just days before the first strikes, Iranian state hackers pulled off one of the most devastating cyber-ops in modern history - seizing a staggering 3 terabytes of top-secret Israeli intelligence.
Not just military secrets... but kompromat.
Files detailing Israel’s vast surveillance operations, including deep cover programs inside the United States.
And within that trove? Evidence of crimes - unspeakable crimes - implicating some of the most powerful people on Earth.
This isn’t just about war. It’s about blackmail, betrayal, and a global house of cards on the brink of collapse.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 3:56 utc | 75

3 ships on fire in straits of Hormuz
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1934795792046272750

Photos are currently circulating which appear to show three ships on fire off the coast of Iran in the Gulf of Oman, near the Strait of Hormuz. NASA’s Fire Information for Resource Management System (FIRMS) Map appearing to confirm three fires in the Gulf of Oman.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 3:58 utc | 76

It’s now being reported two oil tankers inexplicably just ran into each other.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 4:06 utc | 77

Noise and FUD on the Hormuz burning oil tankers… to be expected
https://www.forexlive.com/news/more-details-coming-in-on-the-3-ships-on-fire-in-the-gulf

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 4:25 utc | 78

Pentagon pizza monitoring.
High activity for 10pm Monday. Triple/quadruple normal Monday nites.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 4:26 utc | 79

Oh and Macron swung by Nuuk Greenland on his way to Edmonton G7.
Before Trumplestilskin, Macron wouldn’t have found Nuuk on a map, let alone stepped off his plane for a press op.
Q: what business does a French president have with a remote Danish colony?
How often does this French president visit French remote colonies?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 4:32 utc | 80

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 4:32 utc | 80

Did his wife go too? Perhaps she wants to playfully tap him in the ice

Posted by: watcher | Jun 17 2025 5:02 utc | 81

Kash Patel says FBI has documents showing CCP interference in the 2020 presidential election.
Sure. You. Do.
> sigh. The playbook-script, no matter how dog-eared and coffee stained, never changes. Just some of the names of the villains du jour get swapped

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Macron. I think he’ll travel solo from now on.
Or put a restraint cage for her at the back of the plane…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 5:06 utc | 82

After 911 the FAA grounded all Civil Aviation. The absence of contrails caused a measurable improvement in the weather, IIRC.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 17 2025 5:08 utc | 83

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 5:06 utc | 82

Yes probably -or else travel with two burly security guards, He needs to hang on the the rails going down the stairs unless she gives him a shove.

Sorry for the OT distraction - nothing else is happening so some trivia while we wait.

Posted by: watcher | Jun 17 2025 5:21 utc | 84

Max Blumenthal
https://x.com/propandco/status/1934806079747022928

Netanyahu's calculus is that the stupid Goyim in Washington are going to get involved"

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Not sure nothing is happening… sure, the info leaks have Gone Dark…. but like when noisy children are quiet …. They are up to something

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 5:36 utc | 85

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 17 2025 5:08 utc | 83

Re: "After 911 the FAA grounded all Civil Aviation. The absence of contrails caused a measurable improvement in the weather, IIRC."

It was an interesting phenomenon, to be sure.
The high cloud from jet contrails both reflects incoming solar radiation, as well as trapping outgoing infra-red.
What was noticed at the time, and now well-researched, is that the absence of contrails did two things:
1) It increased dolar radiation reaching the surface, increasing expected max temps by around 1.1degC, and,
2) Allowed more energy to escape at night, leading to increase in expected diurnal temperature range of 1.8degC.

The effect was temporary, as it is with most volcanic effects (except the really big ones).

But humans don't have any effect on global temperature, or so sayeth our resident oil industry spokespeople.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 17 2025 5:40 utc | 86

*solar, not dolar
Hate trying to do this on a phone, I'm all thumbs, but it's all I have at my disposal.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Jun 17 2025 5:42 utc | 87

Trump testy.(more than usual)
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114696999897040583

Publicity seeking President Emmanuel Macron, of France, mistakenly said that I left the G7 Summit, in Canada, to go back to D.C. to work on a “cease fire” between Israel and Iran.
Wrong! He has no idea why I am now on my way to Washington, but it certainly has nothing to do with a Cease Fire.
Much bigger than that.
Whether purposely or not, Emmanuel always gets it wrong. Stay Tuned!

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 5:45 utc | 88

Russia just popped something in downtown Kiev.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1934831358049968424/

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 5:48 utc | 89

@ Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 5:48 utc | 89 with the X link of the drone attack...thx

I would just say it was somebodies rather than something that got popped.......and some collateral damage I expect.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Jun 17 2025 5:53 utc | 90

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 4:25 utc | 78

Noise and FUD on the Hormuz burning oil tankers… to be expected
https://www.forexlive.com/news/more-details-coming-in-on-the-3-ships-on-fire-in-the-gulf

<= this link gives a 404 error.. can you tell me, whose ships were they? how did the fires start, and what is the status at this point.. what were their cargoes, from where did they originate the current voyage, which insurance companies insured each of the three ships.. where were they each headed.. ? If three ships on fire does not cause a drop in stock prices worldwide nothing will?
Need to get information of this type out ASAP. Thanks!

read the words in the url itself.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-notified-turkey-advance-israel-plan-attack-iran-sources-say

Posted by: snake | Jun 17 2025 9:23 utc | 91

Much bigger than a ceasefire for undeclared opening round of WW3?
Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 17 2025 5:45 utc | 88

Trump said it clearly, there is no talk about a ceasefire because that is not the plan, never was. He is going for "Iran can't have nukes" story (even with his surfer girl Tulsi releasing a statement at the same time that Iran is not trying to have nukes) and wants to evacuate Tehran because he, as he explained later, wants "people" to be safe. The nuclear deal, which he broke, was supposed to be broken because like in Russia's case, the result has to be full control of the country. For Russia the work is in progress and will continue years. I think "work" is going on very well. Putin shoots down his own drones, has no problems with cluster bombs on beaches or assassinations and calls Trump for his birthday after he just blew up 5% of his bombers in one night and killed many losers on those trains. Big distance from "US, takes your nukes out of Europe!" from only a few years ago. He also invited US investors to Russia, including Donbass, because he says he has no money to extract anything.

Also for a WW3 to start you need to have one one side fighting another side. There is no one on Iran's side, their weapons are limited and they have no nukes, technically there will be no WW, it'll be exactly like Gaza. Zakharova and Fu-Cong-Ding-Dong-Crimea-belongs-to-Ukr will express outrage at UN and next day they will unanimously vote again sanctions for Yemen. If Iran expected anything else, they're going to have a big disappointment.

Posted by: rk | Jun 17 2025 9:47 utc | 92

"Iran will welcome us as liberators, they want to be part of the West!"

-remember that talking point?

Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | Jun 17 2025 10:08 utc | 93

Off topic and not important! A general internet search doesn't show me anything but old (5 days) news about the US evacuation of embassies, civilians, non-essential military personnel, dependents etc. in the region.

However I found the following by going directly to their website (US military affiliated site):
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/middle_east/2025-06-16/military-families-departure-bahrain-naples-18140022.html

They talk about "dozens" and are given the run-around when they ask if there will be any more.

So did only a few leave? "Dozens" (plural of twelve) sounds like forty or fifty to me, of course those mentioned are likely only military dependents and not any of the other groups of personnel.

Again this is not important, don't waste time on it, I'm just being curious and looking for internet sources (links) on this if someone happens to have any (and I figured there was no point asking at the end of a thousand+ thread —sorry for any inconvenience/annoyance).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 17 2025 10:26 utc | 94

Since I was there I noticed this one which might be of general interest, it concerns the use/testing of small robotic/automated surveillance sailboats by Denmark (similar has been done before in various forms by other NATO countries and maybe elsewhere as well):
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/europe/2025-06-16/denmark-robotic-sailboats-nato-russia-18140551.html

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 17 2025 10:44 utc | 95

@Norwegian | Jun 16 2025 14:56 utc | 12
Climate change caused by CO2 is both physical truth and is simultaneously being exploited by the mighty for undeclared purposes
A similar thing may be claimed cocerning the fossile fuel theory.
Every scientifically sound analysis so far supports it but manipulating the exploitation of that substance still may make sense for uneclared purposes by the mighty.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 17 2025 10:53 utc | 96

More Off Topic but... (always a "but" :P ).

The recent ship collision in the Persian Gulf, nothing mysterious, some GPS spoofing (no excuse), "shadow fleet" (meh!), "traffic accident" (okay, reasonable description), has more detail:
"Laden Frontline VLCC collides with shadow suezmax tanker off Khorfakkan"

Same as plaintext URL:
https://splash247.com/laden-frontline-vlcc-collides-with-shadow-aframax-tanker-off-khorfakkan/

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 17 2025 11:41 utc | 97

If they fail to "dim the sun" then it's a waste of taxpayer funds. If they succeed it's a waste of government-sponsored investment in solar power. Apparently square circles are a UK specialty.

Posted by: Jorge | Jun 17 2025 11:42 utc | 98

Should have said "Gulf of Oman", not exactly the same place as the Persian Gulf but the same part of the world and very close.

Persian Gulf: right inside the Strait of Hormuz.
Gulf of Oman: right outside the Strait of Hormuz.

:)

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 17 2025 11:49 utc | 99

How to know that the climate threat is bullsh*t?

How long will it take to flood Florida and Manhattan? Twenty years maybe?

How long will it take to end all human civilization in an all out nuclear war? About two hours?

They obsess with climate change and almost completely ignore the threat of nuclear war. They treat it as nearly trivial. There's no big nuke freeze movement or 'ban the bomb' trend. So, it's bullsh*t in one way or another.

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 17 2025 11:50 utc | 100