Palestine Open Thread 2025-127
News & views related to the war in Palestine ...
Posted by b on June 8, 2025 at 13:23 UTC | Permalink
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Whether Greta is controlled opposition or not, she's making a lot of noise the zionazis don't want.
A lot of eyes they'd rather not have looking are looking. All the climate crusaders are now looking at Gaza and asking themselves if the weather is as important a hill to die on.
Stupid way to set up controlled opposition, if you ask me.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 15:27 utc | 3
Doug Macgregor, Ep. 2, with Andrew Napolitano defining Just War Theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9xBPssty2Q&t=304s
BUT: Just War Theory applied SHOULD include:
-- Accurately defining the Enemy/adversary
Subsection: Lying, propaganda INVALIDATES any argument about an enemy
-- When an entity adversarial to the sovereignty or peace of the State is identified, the conditions for Just War exist, and it is an OBLIGATION of the State and its citizens to REMOVE that adversary.
ZIONISM is such an Adversary that threatenes the sovereignty and peace of the United States.
It must be extirpated from the state by any and every Just means, including War.
Posted by: Errata | Jun 8 2025 15:30 utc | 4
A couple of days ago, Lorenzo Pacini at SCF cited unnamed insiders predicting a diplomatic breakthrough in West Asia. (As if!) It's possible we could keep spinning into negotiation-rounds number six and seven with Iran. It's all temporizing and stagecraft, apparently. Positioning our propaganda to accommodate everlasting hostility. Never back down, never let up.
Despite five rounds of indirect nuclear negotiations, U.S. President Donald Trump seems less interested in diplomacy with Iran and more invested in keeping tensions alive. His latest threats, paired with fresh sanctions and zero-sum demands, suggest that he currently isn’t looking for a deal.
Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One on Friday, Trump once again took a hardline stance on Iran’s nuclear program. “If they enrich, then we're going to have to do it the other way, and I don't really want to do it the other way,” he said, adding, “There is not going to be enrichment [of uranium in Iran].”
He didn’t explain what “the other way” meant, leaving his statement open to interpretation—possibly as a veiled threat of military action.
https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514001/This-Guy-Has-No-Will-for-a-Deal
We adjust to the realization we'll never see an afterward. Whether in Ukraine or Gaza, Iran or China, the thermostat on hostilities never clicks down a notch (not in my lifetime), because the global warfare machine doesn't work that way. It is now a huge parasite which cannot be removed without severe injury to the host.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 8 2025 15:51 utc | 5
A former Israeli PM thinks Netanyahu - has made a big mistake in Gaza.
"On May 27 – the 599th day of the Israeli genocidal war on Gaza – former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert slammed the Benjamin Netanyahu-led regime’s “war without purpose” against Palestinians in the besieged Palestinian territory that has claimed over 54,000 lives so far.
He said the war waged by the Israeli regime is “without goals or clear planning and with no chances of success,” in which “thousands of innocent Palestinians are being killed, as well as many Israeli soldiers.”
“Recent operations in Gaza have nothing to do with legitimate war goals. This is now a private political war. Its immediate result is the transformation of Gaza into a humanitarian disaster area,” the former Israeli premier and Netanyahu’s political rival wrote in an article published in Haaretz.
“What we are doing in Gaza now is a war of devastation: indiscriminate, limitless, cruel, and criminal killing of civilians. It’s the result of government policy – knowingly, evilly, maliciously, irresponsibly dictated.”"
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 8 2025 16:11 utc | 6
The starving to death of women and children in Gaza is taking its toll.
"A spokesperson at the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF) has warned that Gaza’s malnourished children in hospitals may not survive next week due to the Israeli-imposed aid blockade, emphasizing that most children struggle to secure even one daily meal.
James Elder in an interview with the Sky News on Saturday highlighted the dire situation in Gaza by stating that most mothers in the region are forced to sacrifice their own food to ensure their children have something to eat.
“It is the worst time it has ever been for women and children here in Gaza,” he said.
“I see children in hospitals who will not be alive by next week based on the level of malnutrition and because supplies can’t get to them.
“Most mothers I speak to get a meal every other day because they sacrifice whatever food they’ve got for their children,” he added."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 8 2025 16:13 utc | 7
Re: Freedom Flotilla
Garmin tracker - not functioning or perhaps hacked ?
AIS last ping 12 hours prior circa 0700 local time
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:9599795/zoom:10
Very concerning.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 16:14 utc | 8
The Zio-Monsters will grab more land in the West Bank, if European countries recognise a Palestinian state.
"Israeli finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has vowed an “escalation” of land expropriation in the occupied West Bank if the European Union recognizes the state of Palestine.
“We have an escalation plan in the West Bank if France and other European countries continue to push for recognition of a Palestinian state,” Smotrich said on Friday.
He added that the plan “includes imposing sovereignty over Area C in the West Bank, displacing the residents of Khan al-Ahmar, and disrupting the banking system.”
Area C comprises around 60 percent of the occupied territory and is home to the vast majority of Israeli settlements.
On Thursday, the minister visited the newly built illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank where the Israeli regime approved 22 new illegal settlements late last month.
He said during the tour that he has issued direct instructions to expedite the legalization of new settlements and develop a plan to impose “Israeli sovereignty” on all remaining land in the occupied West Bank."
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 8 2025 16:15 utc | 9
Aleph_Null 5
A parasite replaces the host. The war machine has already replaced people like us at MoA with jellied clones. We have already been removed from the body politic. Our only role now is to scoff from the sidelines at the whoppers of the MIC slugs.
It would happen in the twinkling of an eye, should the garbage of the blob ever be tested by any real oppisition from our supposed enemies, and us live wires on the fringes could resume government.
I suspect the same is just as true in any other parasited country in the World. Especially the ones where opposition was removed by physically mincing their opponents. Even Israel has a hard core of protest, waiting for the inner contradictions of the war machine to explode in its face. Every country has.
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 8 2025 16:18 utc | 10
A typical report of many I've seen whizzing by over the past week:
"Fierce urban combat rages in Khan Younis as Hamas fighters launch intense resistance against Israeli forces, targeting bulldozers and elite units. With evacuations, explosions, and rising Israeli casualties, Gaza’s war zone deepens. Al-Qassam vows a war of attrition while IDF faces growing setbacks in the south."
The IDF seems to be going all in on ground invasion.
Why?
Are they so eager to lose young Ashkenazi lives?
Whatever the reason, it's a miracle the resistance is as lethal as it was on 7 October 2023.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 16:30 utc | 11
"The IDF seems to be going all in on ground invasion.
Why?
Are they so eager to lose young Ashkenazi lives?"
I don't care. I just want to see them die. Slowly.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 8 2025 16:38 utc | 12
Ah a new thread. I’ll hold my tongue on TinTin for now.
There are thousands on the road across North Africa apparently heading to Egypt and land crossing into Gaza - a real target for the ziofascists on this anniversary of the infamous attack on the USS Liberty.
Fitting I suppose as US Liberty is being attacked by the ZioFascist godfathers with the false flag in California, launching the big tech control machine of Thiels Palantir.
No wonder Musk went gaga a few days ago!
It is all connected.
Re : Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 8 2025 13:49 utc | 1
“The novelist Howard Jacobson has argued that too much press coverage of dead Palestinian children is a new form of “blood libel” against Jews”
Howard “Implacable” Jacobson has been a godfather ziofascIst c**t for decades in the U.K. cultural space.
I called him out on it at The Groaniad years ago - before they perma modded me.
They are the ZioFascist propagandists of record in the U.K.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 8 2025 16:56 utc | 13
I don't care. I just want to see them die. Slowly.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 8 2025 16:38 utc | 12
Not slowly. Just dead. You don't fool with a rabid animal, you just put everyone out of its misery.
Posted by: mena | Jun 8 2025 17:11 utc | 14
Not slowly. Just dead. You don't fool with a rabid animal, you just put everyone out of its misery.
Posted by: mena | Jun 8 2025 17:11 utc | 14
The IDF are not like that.
Once you scratch them they fall apart.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 17:14 utc | 15
Re: Freedom Flotilla
Can someone please check out their social media feeds ? I’m getting concerned with the boat no longer ping’g. Thank you
Link to website and social media feeds.
https://freedomflotilla.org/ffc-tracker/
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 17:19 utc | 16
"You don't fool with a rabid animal, you just put everyone out of its misery."
Animals, yes.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 8 2025 17:19 utc | 17
"You don't fool with a rabid animal, you just put everyone out of its misery."
Animals, yes.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 8 2025 17:21 utc | 18
Repeating the set of local Palestine links....
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/NewsPs0?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Martyred:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/hossamsshbat?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Reporting from Rafah
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/madinat_khanyuns?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 8 2025 17:23 utc | 19
The Algebra of Genocide
Population of Gaza was around 2.5 million at the start.
55K are said to be killed in around 1.5 years of fighting.
Set the number at least double: 100K
No counting living casualties - they're still alive.
At the current rate (optimistic) it will take 25*1.5 = 37 years to erase the population of Gaza.
Let's not be so optimistic and half that period, assuming hunger and disease accelerated the process (negative factors), but let's also assume that in those years there'll be brief periods when food aid comes in by smuggling routes and the U.N calls a temporary pause to this shitshow:
Using this loose algebra we can half 37 years to roughly 17 years.
(Note: children born this year will have grown up to fighting age under daily bombardment and siege)
For the doomers who think even 17 years is too optimistic, let's arbitrarily half it again:
8.5 years.
Zionistan will need to subject Gaza to a further 8.8 years of daily butchery to completely erase the Palestinians.
They will have to be erased. They will not be allowed to leave. So there will be no Palestinian Exodus through the Sinai or across the Mediterranean or through the Rafah crossing.
Does anyone here think the Zionist Occupation can last that long, even if there was no Hamas, how many years will it take to butcher your way through 2.5 million people without some unintended consequence coming along and wrecking your plans?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 17:23 utc | 20
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 17:19 utc | 16
half an hour ago at 130 nautical miles from Ghaza. Comms jammed.
The scenario unfolds as follows: Israel's Shayetet 13, an elite unit specializing in sea-to-land incursions, plans a nighttime assault on the Freedom Flotilla’s vessel, "Madleen." Their objective is to forcibly board the ship, instill fear among the passengers, and subject them to mistreatment. Following the takeover, the flotilla will be hijacked and redirected to an Israeli port, where those on board will be classified and treated as illegal immigrants. ( Magnier)
Posted by: stranger | Jun 8 2025 17:25 utc | 21
The novelist Howard Jacobson has argued that too much press coverage of dead Palestinian children is a new form of “blood libel” against Jews.....
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 8 2025 13:49 utc | 1
But I thought Israelis don't represent all Jewry?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 17:26 utc | 22
Once you scratch them they fall apart.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 17:14 utc | 15
########
I never get tired of seeing IDF trying to "clear a room".
Their reputation was entirely manufactured. The entire West is built on narratives that cannot withstand scrutiny.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 8 2025 17:43 utc | 23
Arch Bungle @ 20 Jun 8, Re:"Algebra of Genocide" I come up with the same math. I believe Psycho-killer Nutandyahoo, and Genocide Donny are not really out to remove the Palestinians from Gaza. If they did their "war" would come to an end, and in all likelihood both may wind up in jail if not directly for war crimes, then for all the other things those two creatures did. I think they are just out to torture, and keep the genocide going perpetually. Not only does continued genocide keep the money train to Israel going, doing genocide gets their rocks off.
Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Jun 8 2025 17:50 utc | 24
A regularly ignored anniversary today. The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty June 8, 1967.
https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ul-kolb.html
Posted by: LanceThruster | Jun 8 2025 17:52 utc | 25
A regularly ignored anniversary today. The Israeli attack on the USS Liberty June 8, 1967.
https://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ul-kolb.html
Posted by: LanceThruster | Jun 8 2025 17:52 utc | 26
I think they are just out to torture, and keep the genocide going perpetually. Not only does continued genocide keep the money train to Israel going, doing genocide gets their rocks off.
Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | Jun 8 2025 17:50 utc | 24
That's madness. Self destructive madness.
Then again, considering who were talking about ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 17:54 utc | 27
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 17:19 utc | 16
I'm showing the tracker at Freedom Flotilla working.
Also, Freedom Flotilla now has a petition to sign re: the safety of the Madleen. The more that sign, the more they know the world is watching.
Posted by: Mary | Jun 8 2025 17:57 utc | 28
Stranger,
If your post is correct, I cannot believe the Flotilla would be do naive to be so near Gaza at night. My expectation was the boat would make landfall at dusk in Egypt, overnight in Eqypt, then make a daytime short hop motorsailing to Gaza.
Hope you are wrong.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 17:57 utc | 29
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 17:57 utc | 29
I,too, hoe to be wrong, but do not believe that the daylight would make it different for the genocidal creatures.
Meanwhile, a huge motorized convoy of aid and civilians is moving from Maghreb. This morning early they were at some 3000 km form Ghaza.
Also several thousands moving on Rafah from Cairo.
Those will be more difficult to deal with that a small ship.
Posted by: stranger | Jun 8 2025 18:13 utc | 30
In a crushing legal blow, a Canadian federal court has upheld the government’s decision to strip the Jewish National Fund of Canada (JNF) of its charitable status, ending a 57-year run of tax-exempt support for Zionist colonization in Palestine. The court’s 30 May decision rejects JNF Canada’s final legal appeal, marking the official collapse of its status as a registered charity.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 8 2025 13:49 utc | 1
Good. Though its too much to hope that the JNF UK will suffer a similar fate.
As an example of the tight little world of zionism, there are some interesting JNF UK links. One of their board is Gideon Falter, who is also CEO of Campaign Against Antisemitism (another dubious charity believed to be funded by Israel). CAA - whose role seems to be to make UK Jews afraid of imaginary enemies while at the same time shutting down criticism of Israel via anti-semitism accusations - were at the forefront of the anti-semitism campaign against Jeremy Corbyn, because of his support of Palestine.
Sir Trevor Chinn is the son of a former executive of JNF UK and has fingers in many zionist pies. He also funded Kier Starmer's Labour leadership bid to the tune of £50,000 - which Starmer should have declared before the leadership election ... but didn't.
The level to which zionism is embedded in UK politics and media seems limitless.
Posted by: Red Star | Jun 8 2025 19:05 utc | 32
Posted by: LanceThruster | Jun 8 2025 17:52 utc | 26
Thank you for reminding us all. The spookipedia on John McCain's father, may John McCain's brain tumor rest in peace, doesn't mention the Liberty at all. I believe he shut down that investigation. And to think that the Soviets saved the Liberty from the Zionist entity.
Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 8 2025 19:11 utc | 33
Mary,
Tracker still FUBAR for me both the Garmin and the freedom flotilla
Check out the AIS, 15 hours since last ping
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:9599795/zoom:10
(Sailboat is the tiny purple arrow icon, click on it to get AIS etc )
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 19:13 utc | 34
UK NEWS
Met police to use Israeli armoured vehicles ‘battle-tested in Gaza’
The Metropolitan Police is trialling new ‘Sandcat’ armoured vehicles across London – which are manufactured by Israeli armoured vehicle company Plasan. For more than thirty years, Plasan has supplied these systems to the Israeli military, including around seven hundred ‘Sandcats’ since the beginning of Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
A Met spokesperson said the eighteen vehicles it has bought from Plasan will be used to suppress ‘serious public disorder’ and will replace its fleet of ‘Jankel’ armoured cars, according to reports in The New Arab.
Israeli arms companies frequently use the deployment of their weapons in Gaza as a sales tool, boasting that they are ‘battle tested’ after being used against Palestinians.
The UK has just finished the hearing phase of a court case brought against it by advocates for Palestinian human rights to prevent it selling components for the F-35 strike aircraft that are slaughtering huge numbers of Palestinian civilians. While the UK government continues to enable Israel’s genocide of the Palestinian people, the Home Office is buying arms systems tested on them.
Original article : https://skwawkbox.org/2025/06/07/met-police-to-use-armoured-vehicles-battle-tested-in-gaza/
Posted by: Red Star | Jun 8 2025 19:19 utc | 35
The entire West is built on narratives that cannot withstand scrutiny.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 8 2025 17:43 utc | 23
Exactly. "Meat waves" and carpet bombing civilians are confessions masked as accusations. Since before WWII. How many western poor and middle class kids are dumb or pycho enough to enlist these days? Bring on the drones and AI killer robots I guess ...or nukes. It's all the morally bankrupt west has.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 8 2025 19:27 utc | 36
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 19:13 utc | 34
Now that they have armed compradors in Gaza it would not shock me if they just let them land and filmed them being raped and murdered by 'Gazans'. Way better propaganda than sticking them in prison. It's not as if they are above it morally, just perhaps not creatively.
Posted by: Badjoke | Jun 8 2025 19:29 utc | 37
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A land convoy has departed from Algeria to break the siege on Gaza. Another convoy is scheduled to depart tomorrow toward the Strip.
The convoys aim to combine efforts with the freedom flotilla currently at sea heading to Gaza.
The land convoy to Gaza will include delegations from Mauritania, Morocco, and Algeria, and thousands from Tunisia and Libya. The convoy has registered the participation of more than 7,000 people of various Maghreb nationalities as of 30 May.
https://tgstat.com/channel/@enemywatch
Posted by: JB | Jun 8 2025 19:37 utc | 38
Latest news on the flotilla.
Communications are being disabled as of the time of this video posted an hour ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-4O__XqdYw
Posted by: ld | Jun 8 2025 19:40 utc | 39
Naim Qassem: Hezbollah Will Make No Further Concessions
Full speech on May 25, 2025, on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the Liberation of Southern Lebanon
Exc:
- the Resistance will not remain silent in the face of injustice, and it will not yield.
We have said it before, and we repeat it now: if the state fails in its role—even though it has the capacity to fulfill it—other options exist. Do not ask me what those options are. But know this: the Resistance will not remain silent in the face of injustice, and it will not yield. For now, it is exercising patience and endurance. We have taken a position that it is the state’s responsibility to respond—and that will require time. We are granting that time. But the time to act is now.
Just as no one can relocate Lebanon—can you lift Lebanese soil and place it elsewhere? It is impossible—so too, no one can uproot the Resistance from the land of Lebanon. It is deeply rooted in this soil, inextricably bound to the blood of its martyrs, to every grain of wheat, every flower, every tree, every breath of resilience. Abandon these illusions.
This country—Lebanon—is progressing thanks to our cooperation. We are the foundation of all the progress it is experiencing. Our positive contributions are present in every challenge and every milestone: the presidential election, government formation, municipal elections, appointments, and stages in passing laws. We are an integral part of all that is constructive in Lebanon today. If some obstruct or attempt to block progress for external reasons, we say to them: we will build Lebanon with our will, our convictions, and the sacrifices of our people. This is self-evident. And, with God’s grace, we will triumph, establishing a strong Lebanon that brings together all its sons. A stable Lebanon is good for us, and also for others, including Arab and foreign nations. It is in our shared interest.
No one can blackmail us in the name of stability. No one can blackmail us in the name of reconstruction. No one will blackmail us to strip us of our independence in decision-making. Never. Our decision will remain sovereign.
Let us be clear: in our view—and this is a lesson from history—Israel is doomed to fall.
You may ask me when this will happen. I do not know. But injustice on this scale cannot endure, cannot take root, cannot stabilize. Israel may fall due to internal division, to a renewed rise in Resistance and authentic strength, or because the United States will no longer be able to sustain it. We do not know how Israel’s collapse will occur, but we are certain of this: injustice can never be permanently established on this earth.
https://globalsouth.co/2025/06/08/naim-qassem-hezbollah-will-make-no-further-concessions/
Posted by: JB | Jun 8 2025 20:01 utc | 40
The Zionists have announced that they have found the body of Hamas commander Mohhamad Sinwar, Yahya Sinwar's brother. They claim he was killed in May in an airstrike.
Some days earlier they announced that they believe that they had killed him and were checking.
Most of the time such announcements prove to be correct.
Hamas is silent, for now.
It doesn't sound good.
Posted by: JB | Jun 8 2025 20:27 utc | 41
Posted by: JB | Jun 8 2025 20:27 utc | 41
Wha? Sinwar was killed by an armed drone. The footage was made public. He was fighting until the very end.
https://indi.ca/in-memory-of-the-martyr-yahya-sinwar-after-40-days/
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 8 2025 21:01 utc | 42
Posted by: JB | Jun 8 2025 20:27 utc | 41
Ah...his brother. Missed that.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 8 2025 21:02 utc | 43
UK NEWS
Met police to use Israeli armoured vehicles ‘battle-tested in Gaza’
Posted by: Red Star | Jun 8 2025 19:19 utc | 35
One day when the IEDs come home to roost in central London I hope they'll note these were also "battle tested" in Gaza.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 21:53 utc | 44
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1931675749150249269
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
🚨⚡️BREAKING
Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz:
"I have instructed the IDF to act so that the 'Madeleine' flotilla does not reach Gaza. To the anti-Semitic Greta and her friends, I say clearly - you should turn back, because you will not reach Gaza."
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1931678031682183485
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
"The State of Israel will not allow anyone to violate the naval blockade on Gaza, the primary purpose of which is to prevent the transfer of weapons to Hamas, a murderous terror organization that holds our hostages and commits war crimes," he added.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1931679281458884618
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
The Madleen is not transporting arms and the blockade on Gaza is fully illegal.
Any attack on the Madleen will be in violation of international law, and will just confirm the criminal nature of the Israeli entity.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 8 2025 22:05 utc | 45
Trita Parsi
@tparsi
Wow! The plot thickens in a predictable way:
The leader of the Palestinian criminal gang Israel is arming to weaken Hamas and presumably start a Palestinian civil war, posts a photo of himself with his car.
It has a UAE licence plate...
https://x.com/tparsi/status/1931795137840992629
Posted by: Menz | Jun 8 2025 22:13 utc | 46
ADAM
@AdameMedia
Swearing your undying loyalty to Israel isn’t just a requirement to be New York Mayor
It’s a requirement to be the Prime Minister of Britain
Jeremy Corbyn leaked that he was confronted to swear he would support ANY military action Israel undertakes
https://x.com/AdameMedia/status/1931440047175385531
Posted by: Menz | Jun 8 2025 22:14 utc | 47
Drop Site
@DropSiteNews
NEW: Gaza Government Media Office Rejects Israeli Claims of Tunnels Under European Hospital
The Gaza Government Media Office has issued a detailed statement refuting Israeli military claims that a resistance tunnel was found under the European Hospital in southern Gaza.
➤ Officials called the Israeli video flimsy and full of false claims. They say it shows only a narrow iron pipe, far too small for a person to pass through, located in a rainwater drainage area — not a tunnel. They further alleged that Israeli forces dug and staged the scene near the hospital’s emergency department.
➤ Gaza authorities noted that this is part of a pattern of fabricated claims. Israel previously made false accusations about Al-Shifa, Nasser, and Hamad hospitals, none of which withstood scrutiny:
— At Al-Shifa, Israeli forces found only an old water well.
— At Hamad, a water room was falsely presented as a tunnel.
— At Nasser Hospital, Israel was unable to fabricate any claims.
They also vandalized and destroyed other hospitals without finding evidence.
➤ Officials pointed out serious contradictions: Israel admitted using 40-ton bunker-busting bombs against the European Hospital’s infrastructure. If so, how could intact, unburned bodies still be shown at the site?
➤ They criticized the Israeli video for its obvious flaws — including an abrupt scene shift at the 14-second mark — and noted that Israel refused to release the full, unedited footage to foreign journalists.
➤ The statement also reminded that Israel had previously said resistance fighters were targeted over half a kilometer from the hospital, far from its grounds. Gaza officials questioned how a tunnel could exist in the middle of a hospital crowded with patients and staff without detection.
➤ The office warned Palestinians not to be misled by Israeli narratives or by media figures who spread Israeli-sourced rumors attacking the resistance. They called for caution and vigilance.
➤ Gaza authorities said these false narratives are aimed at covering up Israel’s real crime: the systematic targeting of Gaza’s health system and war crimes against civilians and vital infrastructure.
Full statement: 👇🏼
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1931760842665582673
Posted by: Menz | Jun 8 2025 22:15 utc | 48
No details but prof. Maranda is usually a reliable source of information:
Seyed Mohammad Marandi
@s_m_marandi
Iran has struck a devastating blow to Israel's intelligence network, seizing thousands of classified documents detailing Israel's military, nuclear, and scientific programs, along with sensitive files on its dealings with the US and other Western regimes.
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1931698004467110163
Posted by: Menz | Jun 8 2025 22:19 utc | 49
https://x.com/ChaiLife613/status/1931367933667660241
Lior ✡️ @ChaiLife613
Jews are the only people persecuted for wanting to be left the fuck alone.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1931688458302497167
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
"We invaded Palestine 100 years ago, slaughtered & displaced millions of the natives and continue to do so today, please leave us alone you antisemites"
https://x.com/_iamblakeley/status/1931596616974184807
B L A K E L E Y™℠©® LLC @_iamblakeley
You spelled Palestinians wrong
https://x.com/DavidJohnson_27/status/1931689859745276056
David Johnson @DavidJohnson_27
...while they commit genocide.
The
Zio-Jews
Want to be
Left Alone
While
They
Genocide!
Please comply.
https://x.com/jvgraz/status/1931620411785232765
99% Johnny Graz @jvgraz
Leave Palestine the fuck alone and we'll consider it.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 8 2025 22:20 utc | 50
(Sailboat is the tiny purple arrow icon, click on it to get AIS etc )
Posted by: Exile | Jun 8 2025 19:13 utc | 34
I'm still able to get the Flotilla Tracker. They don't have coordinates, but they show Madleen just north of Port Said. That puts them well east of where marinetraffic.com has them stuck at.
Also, I had read somewhere (I think at the flotilla.org site) that they were planning to sail straight to Gaza.
I agree, arriving at night is extra risky. However I also read today that one of the large groups heading over land is timing their arrival to match the Madleen's.
Posted by: Mary | Jun 8 2025 22:23 utc | 51
Piers Morgan Just Can’t Stop Himself Inciting against the Palestinian People
by Jonathan Cook / June 8th, 2025
Through his dehumanisation of Palestinians, his racist incitement and mindless conflation of “Israelis” and “Jews”, Morgan continues to add fuel to the fire of genocide.
I already had a very low opinion of Piers Morgan. But I was stunned by his display of racist ignorance last night while interviewing the Palestinian journalist Ahmed Alnaouq, who showed great fortitude and dignity throughout.
Outrageously Morgan berates Alnaouq, whose entire family in Gaza was wiped out by Israel early on in its genocide, for insisting that there is a distinction – recognised by Palestinians, if not Israel – between Israelis and Jews.
Alnaouq points out that Palestinians have a problem, not with Jews, but with Israelis for violently occupying and colonising their land for many decades, and for putting Palestinians in Gaza under a brutal 17-year siege that has now been transformed into campaign of starvation.
The exchange has to be heard to be believed, starting at 59 minutes and 50 seconds.
“How can you say you have no problem with the Jews, but you have a problem with the Israelis, given that most Israelis are Jewish?” Morgan asks incredulously.
Alnaouq: “I am simply astonished that you can’t make the difference between the Jews and the Israelis, Piers.”
Morgan: “I am astonished you would try to draw a distinction.”
Morgan then insists that Hamas is a “death cult” determined to kill all Israelis because they are Jews.
Alnaouq: “It’s dangerous when you make this [out to be] a religious war.”
Morgan: “It’s dangerous when you try to pretend that they’re not after killing Jews…
“You don’t think Hamas target Jews because they are Jews.”
Alnaouq: “Of course, not.”
Morgan: “It’s nonsense.”
Alnaouq: “I am surprised that you are saying this, Piers. Genuinely, I am surprised.”
Morgan (again incredulous): “You’re surprised that I think Hamas target Jewish people.”
Alnaouq: “Of course.”
Morgan: “I find that staggering, Ahmed. It’s obviously a ridiculous thing to say.”
Alnaouq: “Why?”
Morgan: “Because obviously they target and murder as many Jewish people as they can get their hands on. And you say it’s because they are Israelis, not Jewish.”
Alnaouq: “Because they are occupiers, because they occupied our country.”
Morgan: “And because they are Jewish.”
Alnaouq: “No. Because they occupied our country, and colonised our country. Because they came to our country and kicked us out in 1948 and they killed thousands of Palestinians, including my grandparents.”
Morgan: “But you know why Israel was set up after World War Two. Because Jewish people were the victims of an appalling Holocaust by Hitler and the Nazis where 6 million of them were exterminated purely for their ethnicity and for being Jewish. So the Jewish people were given the state of Israel.”
Alnaouq: “My country.”
Morgan: “I understand that argument, but it wasn’t ‘Israelis’ given that land. It was the Jewish people.”
Alnaouq: “Who are you to give the Jewish people my country?”
You can learn much from this exchange about why the western political and media class have been so comfortable watching Israel commit a genocide against the Palestinians.
Journalists like Morgan are so immersed in their own confected narrative bubble, they have so bought into the dehumanisation of Palestinians, that Israel’s brutal, illegal occupation, colonisation and apartheid system is invisible to them – and therefore any resistance from Palestinians to their oppression by Israel can only be understood as an attack on Jews, as evidence of antisemitism.
Illustrating the trap faced by Palestinians, Alnaouq’s very attempts to make a clear distinction between “Israelis” and “Jews” is turned against him – becoming evidence for Morgan of his antisemitism.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t.
Morgan introduced Alnaouq by pointing out that the Palestinian journalist had written on X / Twitter last year, after his family in Gaza were killed: “I blame you, Piers Morgan, for their murder and the murder of all innocent people in Gaza.”
Morgan’s subsequent exchange with Alnaouq proved precisely his point. Through dehumanisation of Palestinians, through racist incitement, through mindless, antisemitic conflations of “Israeli” and “Jewish”, Morgan continues to add fuel to the fire, he continues to give succour to the genocide apologists 20 months into that genocide.
His sudden, extremely belated reversal over the past two weeks about whether Israel has “overstepped the rules of war” – conveniently coinciding with a similar reassessment in European capitals – should be welcomed. It may finally help to turn the tide on Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza. But let us not forget that, had Morgan and others decided to turn that tide sooner, many thousands of Palestinian children might still be alive.
Posted by: Menz | Jun 8 2025 22:31 utc | 53
see the photo at the third link
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1931838973502214364
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
BREAKING!!! - 11:18PM UK time; I am with the flotilla online. They have just been reached by the Israel speedboats - 5 vessels circling the flotilla. The captain is instructing the team to stay calm and seated, with their passports and life jackets on. I hear them speaking with Israeli soldiers as I type... telling they are carrying humanitarian aid and go in peace. For the time being they are just circled. I am with them, recording everything.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1931752869742395636
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
The scenario unfolds as follows: Israel's Shayetet 13, an elite unit specializing in sea-to-land incursions, plans a nighttime assault on the Freedom Flotilla’s vessel, "Madleen." Their objective is to forcibly board the ship, instill fear among the passengers, and subject them to mistreatment. Following the takeover, the flotilla will be hijacked and redirected to an Israeli port, where those on board will be classified and treated as illegal immigrants.
https://x.com/Yemenimilitary/status/1931738175535505748
Yemen Military 🇾🇪 @Yemenimilitary
"Several people want to break the siege on the people of Gaza, no matter the cost.
Meanwhile, the United States gives the Zionists the green light to do anything to starve and kill the children.
We are with you. Move forward, we will not abandon you."
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 8 2025 22:36 utc | 54
Here's a direct link to the letter writing campaign for the Freedom Flotilla:
You can write your own or, if you're lazy (like me) they provide a pre-written letter.
Posted by: Mary | Jun 8 2025 22:40 utc | 55
Posted by: Menz | Jun 8 2025 22:15 utc | 48
Plenty of video out now showing a tunnel that some western reporters where taken to. One of the video's show the entrance the IDF dug into the tunnel is right next to the hospital's emergency room entrance.
Why is it a big deal? I mean Gaza is so small, how could being close to some hospital, school or mosque be avoided? You also have to figure that there are plenty of places they can't dig very far down due to soil conditions. Wouldn't being near a big building means that there is smaller risk of soil issues?
Posted by: ed4 | Jun 8 2025 22:43 utc | 56
These are brave humanitarians who deserve our prayers for safe passage into Gaza.....but...
remember what the IDF is capable of and its just not the about the 100,000 civilians they have massacred since October 7th and the maiming of at least 200,000 more.....
On June 8 1967 the IDF deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, an unarmed USN ship, carrying over 100 crewmen and staff. Dozens of sailors were killed in repeated IDF naval air and sea attacks on the ship, despite the ship communicating on open commo channels that it was a USN vessel in international waters.
The IDF ignored the communications and continued the attacks. LBJ called off USN counter strikes on the IDF, and the attacks only halted when a Russian frigate arrived on the scene and warned off the IDF Pt boats, and offered aid to the Liberty and its crew.
The IDF never paid appropriate compensation to the families, never apologized to the USN, and never punished those responsible for the terrorist acts. Shame on LBJ and his cabinet.
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 8 2025 22:44 utc | 57
Bibi and Smotrich are done as dinner........they just dont know it yet.........seizing all of Judea is a theft too far.......
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 8 2025 22:47 utc | 58
Piers Morgan is just another media tool of MI6.......he has justified murdering the Irish for years, so OKing the murder of Palestinians in their own country is par for the course........yawn....
Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 8 2025 22:54 utc | 59
I sincerely wish death on every zionist on Earth *shrugs*
I say this without any passion or any real logic, I am just sure in my heart that the more dead zionists the better the trajectory of humanity's future
I check the JPOST every morning for frags, every once in a while Hamas frags a handful, good job, hopefully one day they'll just give up and run back to Poland
Posted by: Argh | Jun 8 2025 23:05 utc | 60
@3 Arch
We must remember that there are various who must have an exit. Meaning covering all bases or playing all sides. For example I see Arab channels hailing the endeavour as compared to 2 billion muslims who do nothing. Look at Micron and the staging of opposition on a previous visit, it sets a tone and defines a position, where before there was no official line to identify with and hence an unpredictable chaotic resentment.
That is the nature of soft power, it doesn't insist on an answer but makes sure the direction to a hypothetical answer is known. Attention fades, energy lowers and people then forget, except to remember 'they tried', their favoured representation tried.
What will happen ? Normally ship boarded and those on board detained.
The message ? "Israel" is in control.
I was going to say you were right about not wanting the attention, however who is to say ? Maybe they want a new swathe of society watching people being killed and starved. So they remember, so they also learn that opposition gets controlled ?
You know, I used to find the idea of AI stupid, and that anyone could just switch off to it in various ways. Then recently I realised that if whatever authority or force is relying on AI, is using AI to shape decisions and how to apply them to and on society, well ...it becomes very real and intangible at the same time.
The same for privacy, centralisation etc. I used to share views with the idea that argument was valid and that it would be understood or appreciated as sensible caution of possible eventual misuse of various frameworks. I figured that would be appreciated by most. Now the sensation is different, it appears to place a person as disruptive or to be relegated. I think the reason for that is that implementation of various is well under way.
This sensation I also had with Euro when it was introduced, there was debate, those contrary to the currency all ended up silented (most just found arguing pointless eventually) , those for but who had high ideals were proven wrong and went silent also. Now nothing, system established and society dependent on and accepted. To question is a waste of time because people are not interested, are invested in the new format and all of its petty arguments as distraction.
I wrote the above this morning. Now with the hijacking being in international waters (?) , it will be used by nations of nationals on board to set a new tone. It is ALL recognition of "Israel" at diplomatic levels, and how those forge into a "reasonableness" of various obviously pro-Zionist countries that make an "effort to set a correct example", that creating an avenue for eventual "Israeli" integration and EU regional influence.
That is not judgement of those on board, who knows, just how these sort of events get used or why they are "allowed", how they are played.
Critics are right to be cynical, in my opinion, and those more positive, that is fair enough also I suppose.
Reality is nothing will happen to those on board, whereas in Gaza civilians will continue to be killed.
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 8 2025 23:08 utc | 61
I can't stand Greta, but she's doing something for the Palestinian cause that I am not.
I wish her and her companions godspeed, success and a safe return.
Posted by: Suresh | Jun 8 2025 23:17 utc | 62
Marleen sprayed with foam/paint-like substance, probably to identify it in the dark in preparation for an assault. Quadcopters flying, one crashed into the boat. - Al Jazeera
Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Jun 8 2025 23:54 utc | 63
It appears they are waiting for the ship to enter "Israeli territorial waters".
I'm reading five warships/launches, drones, harrassment etc. ...
If they wanted low profile they would just pull up alongside, papers, entry without permission and escort to port, detention and then expulsion.
So why are they making a show of it ?
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 9 2025 0:15 utc | 64
Now boarded in international waters apparently. I guess they classed as "terrorist supporting smugglers" or suchlike ...
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 9 2025 0:27 utc | 65
Statement from freedom flotilla with legal analysis. Who didn't see it coming?
Posted by: Stumpy | Jun 9 2025 0:48 utc | 66
So why are they making a show of it ?
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 9 2025 0:15 utc | 64
Because they can - and they want the world to see it.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 9 2025 0:51 utc | 67
@67 Don
Ego/pride, or to set an example, or as self justification and attention ?
I tend to consider actions by "Israel" as much more calculated, but then I might be over-estimating.
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 9 2025 1:06 utc | 68
Contact lost one hour ago - boarded - 110 nautical miles from Gaza -international waters ... no update on crew inc. Liam Cunningham & Greta - Aljazeera just now
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 9 2025 1:06 utc | 69
I expect Israel to wipe them out.
Israel keeps expanding the Overton window and daring someone to stop it.
They rape, murder, and starve. They aren't afraid of Geta or Mr. Cunningham. Those will be collateral losses for Greater Israel. Goyim losses.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 9 2025 1:11 utc | 71
@Ornot | Jun 9 2025 1:06 utc | 68
Ending as expected - purpose achieved to get Publicity against Zionist Genocide ... IDF state piracy on the high seas ...
Will it make a difference?
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 9 2025 1:14 utc | 72
@72 Don
Judging by history ...
If we look at the last year and half "Israel" has managed to make the (already corrupted) 'world system', right down to the reputation of most nations, into an absurdity. It has made individual citizens question what they are part of. It follows (is in hand with) US direction of such.
If we look at the last century of "Israel", it has consumed bad press as readily as good press (not that there ever was much good press).
It exists or thrives on being unaccountable, of flaunting any rules presented to it, and including most agreements it has made.
:-(
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 9 2025 1:40 utc | 73
@Ornot | Jun 9 2025 1:40 utc | 73
Agree.
... and the Genocide continues as it is streamed live ...
Posted by: Don Firineach | Jun 9 2025 2:07 utc | 74
But I thought Israelis don't represent all Jewry?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 8 2025 17:26 utc | 22
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The Zionists and their lobbies say that they do represent all Jews.
Posted by: Jane | Jun 9 2025 2:12 utc | 75
@Don 74
(Apology if slightly off topic.)
This is the sort of thing I meant (when previously replying to Arch) by AI though...
"Hey ChatGPT how do I genocide Gaza, a hundred ways to ?"
...on an unfiltred algorithm and it will produce "ideas" that people just would not think up.
So you end up with whatever clique actually considering ideas beyond moral barriers, ideas that any persons morality would not allow through let alone be discussed. Sure there a psycopaths and the like, but even they would be discarded once they started sinister, because that road is not coherent.
With AI though you have relatively normal people sifting out what might work without that conscience of having created (of anyone having created) that "idea". Once policy makers are compliant (i.e. muppets) the lead references of wider society are lost. Now it is not so much that "some great scheme" but instead that there is no one taking a moral stand. There are no leaders. However society is still forced to follow by law and tradition, it has no other reference but to isolate, for example mundane community or day to day relative certainties, which are not places of reaction.
Meaning, what we are presented with as reality (via events, news, media etc.) , where it is a "generated event" we might not be able to find common reason or logic to its creation simply because it does not follow any of the "rules" we (meaning any person at all) think or analyse by.
I came across a very pertinent couple of quotes, that I think demonstrate perceptions of this "evolution" going back to first half of twentieth century:
"The future, like everything else, is no longer quite what it used to be. … We used to consider the unknown future as a simple combination of already known things, and the new was analyzed according to its unoriginal elements. But that is ended. … The rules of the game are changed at every throw. No calculation of probabilities is possible. … Why? Because the … modern world is assuming the shape of man’s mind. Man has sought in nature all the means and powers that are necessary to make the things around him as unstable, volatile, and mobile as himself, as admirable, as absurd, as disconcerting and prodigious as his own mind. … If … we imprint the form of our mind on the human world, the world becomes all the more unforeseeable and assumes the mind’s [own] disorder."
Paul Valéry
"The human mind has reached the end of temporal progress: the future is not what it used to be, and people talk with less and less progenitive self-precipitation into the future, and behave with more and more fatally decisive immediacy. The future, that is, contains nothing but scientific development. It is an involuntary spending and manipulation of physical forces, empty of consciousness: it no longer matters."
Laura Riding/Robert Graves
Add in modern technology and it all goes hybrid virtual reality etc.
The above is ironic also, given that Graves was defensive of sephardic ethnicicity and judaism, which he praised. I think naively and caught in the geist of the times maybe, but it remains to me as one of those mysteries of someone who should have known better.
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 9 2025 2:13 utc | 76
Madleen Gaza Flotilla Live
LIVE UPDATES:
"The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs says the Madleen's crew are being taken to Israel after Israeli commandos seized the vessel in international waters. Israeli MFA shares video of detained crew..."
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 9 2025 2:42 utc | 77
see the 25-second video at the first link
see the photos at the second link
https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1931876499352920513
Prem Thakker @prem_thakker
"My name is Greta Thunberg and I am from Sweden. If you see this video, we have been intercepted and kidnapped in international waters by the Israeli occupational forces, or forces that support Israel."
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1931893833023000827
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
While #Madleen must be released immediately, every Mediterranean port should send boats with aid, solidarity, and humanity to Gaza. They shall sail together—united, they will be unstoppable.
#BreakingTheSiege is a legal duty for states, and a moral imperative for all of us.
https://x.com/anesmansory/status/1931898071190798816
أنيس منصور @anesmansory
Five Israeli ships and the entity's aircraft surrounded the heroes' ship Madeleine in territorial waters. Be their voice and stand with them; they have made a tremendous effort. This attack will increase European and global public outrage against the enemy entity.
12 people, 12 representatives from different countries, on board one ship on behalf of all humanity, were kidnapped by the entity's army.
#Madleen
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 9 2025 3:02 utc | 78
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1931895249053663278
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Look at all the Israel supporters trying to argue that it is actually good and normal to kidnap activists who are trying to bring aid to a starving and besieged civilian population. This shows you that there is nothing Israel could do that these freaks would not defend. It shows you who these people are. It shows you that every argument you've ever heard in support of Israel is not based on facts or morality or logic, but solely on the desire to promote the information interests of a genocidal apartheid state. It tells you everything you need to know about Israel apologia in general.
Support for Israel has no basis in truth. It has no basis in ethics or rationality. It's just a bunch of horrible people murdering, tyrannizing and stealing with the aim of conquest and domination, and then using words to justify those actions. Israel and its apologists will say whatever words they need to say in order to advance their goals of ethnic cleansing and expansionism, with no regard for what is right and what is true.
It's just a bunch of noise. You could mentally translate every word of every Israel apologist into shrieking gibberish without missing anything meaningful, because there's no actual content in it. It's just people doing evil things and then making a bunch of mouth noises to stop anyone from opposing their actions.
https://x.com/_iamblakeley/status/1931899350118273498
B L A K E L E Y™℠©® LLC @_iamblakeley
Since the IOF is putting out propaganda videos to show everyone “hey look at how nice we are we gave them a sammie!” I’d like to remind everyone the reason the Madleen was going there in the first place was to break the siege on the Palestinians they’ve been STARVING FOR MONTHS!
https://x.com/FearlessWolfess/status/1931889924011389091
Shani @FearlessWolfess
Israeli stopping and attack on the #MadleenToGaza freedom #Flotilla is a war crime and illegal under international law. The ship which has #GretaThunberg #RimaHassan #ThiagoÁvila and other brave souls on it is in international waters, heading to Gaza 🇵🇸 with baby formula and medicine to break the illegal genocidal blockade that is mass starving babies right now.
The Israeli death-cult has no right to stop any ship.
Greta Thunberg Says
I’m ready to give my life to deliver 100 kilograms of flour to Gaza.
#FreedomFlotilla
#FreeGretaThunberg
#SwedishGovernment
#GazaGenocide
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 9 2025 3:15 utc | 79
Next thing the Smotriches and Ben Gwirs and Bibis and konrikuses will tell the world that they found tunnels on the boat
Posted by: fanto | Jun 9 2025 3:28 utc | 80
“ Today, I am planning to engage in an extreme act of protest against the genocide of the Palestinian people... Many of us like to ask ourselves, ‘What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?’ The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now.”
--Aaron Bushnell, February 25 2024
Posted by: Exile | Jun 9 2025 4:04 utc | 81
The US wants Israel to destroy International Law as a foundation for Colonising Asia. It is the US requirement from Israel, to legalise terror, in exchange for the munitions and funding. This sabotaging of International Law is something the US has subcontracted to Netanyahu.
What the RoW needs to do immediately is to remove the US UN veto. Did the writers of UN International Law never foresee that one of its permanent members might go rogue as the US has been doing from day one?
I find that very hard to believe.
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 4:20 utc | 82
see the 25-second israeli propaganda video of the illegal seizure & kidnapping of the activists at the first link. the ship was in international waters, israel had no legal authority to board this ship or to seize the people on it. this is piracy.
https://x.com/IsraelMFA/status/1931885257604645074
Israel Foreign Ministry @IsraelMFA
All the passengers of the ‘selfie yacht’ are safe and unharmed. They were provided with sandwiches and water. The show is over.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1931780015638683839
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
This is called Kidnapping, not an arrest as there is no legal ground.
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1931779192037028298
Disclose.tv @disclosetv
JUST IN - Israeli forces intend to seize Greta's "Freedom Flotilla," tow it to port and arrest the activists — Kan
https://x.com/Imposter_Edits/status/1931842072706691466
🥀_ Imposter_🥀 @Imposter_Edits
This isn't an arrest it's taking people HOSTAGE who are bringing food and medical aid to a starving population.
https://x.com/snackvampire/status/1931892923530170823
🔻🔻🔻mirah 🔻🔻🔻 @snackvampire
while you starve children to death and bomb hospitals and gun down and shell people trying to get food for their families. you are the scum of the earth and nobody is convinced by your bullshit you rapist kidnapping nazis
https://x.com/Ahmed_hassan_za/status/1931893444626227235
Ahmed Hassan 🇾🇪 أحمد حسن زيد @Ahmed_hassan_za
Water and food!!! even Hitler gave prisoners water and food
You literally just kidnapped them and pointed guns at them , you sick people
https://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1931908986984452600
Khalissee @Kahlissee
Don't dress it up.
They were trying to deliver food, water, and medicine to Palestinians YOU are starving in Gaza, and you KIDNAPPED them
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1931907502276235410
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
Israelis are now boasting about having kidnapped Greta Thunberg off the Egyptian waters and dragging her by force to Ashdod.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 9 2025 4:28 utc | 83
Why are we still talking about Sooty telling his ventriloquist what to do.
The US has all the power, the leverage the money , and is using Israel to break the foundational laws governing Human Rights and International relationships.
Even the worst cases of TDS have to face the facts , that this Flotilla project plays into the hands of the US by treating Israel as the problem.
No ody can deal with the problem until you face the reality that it is the US that is the problem.
The uses proxies to push the boundaries of International Law. After 19 months of learned helplessness , it's time to bite the bullet that the US must be removed from its position of dominance at the UN. By force.
The flotilla are part of the problem , not part of the solution , because they are deflecting blame from the US to Israel. No sympathy whatsoever.
These are Atlantacist- programmed bullshitters , promoting the agenda that Israel is doing the genocide.
The bombs come from America.
The money comes from America
The diplomatic cover comes from America.
DunGroanin is right. These stupid people who know nothing about the world except what Corporate America tells them to think , are useful idiots of the US, deflecting blame from Biden and Trump.
No sympathy AT ALL.
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 4:40 utc | 84
Freedom Flotilla Presser
Israeli Military Attacks Madleen in International Waters — Weeks After Bombing of Conscience
….Catania, Sicily, Italy- The Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) confirms that its civilian ship, Madleen, carrying humanitarian aid to Gaza, has been attacked/forcibly intercepted by the Israeli military at 3:02 am CET in international waters at 31.95236° N, 32.38880° E. The ship was unlawfully boarded, its unarmed civilian crew abducted, and its life-saving cargo—including baby formula, food and medical supplies—confiscated.“Israel has no legal authority to detain international volunteers aboard the Madleen,” said Huwaida Arraf, human rights attorney and Freedom Flotilla organizer. “This seizure blatantly violates international law and defies the ICJ’s binding orders requiring unimpeded humanitarian access to Gaza. These volunteers are not subject to Israeli jurisdiction and cannot be criminalized for delivering aid or challenging an illegal blockade—their detention is arbitrary, unlawful, and must end immediately.”
Israel is once again acting with total impunity. It has defied the International Court of Justice’s binding orders to allow unimpeded humanitarian access to Gaza, disregarded the international laws protecting civilian navigation, and dismissed the demands of millions worldwide calling for an end to the siege and genocide.
This latest act of aggression against the FFC follows the unpunished Israeli drone attack on our previous vessel, Conscience, which left four civilian volunteers injured and the ship disabled and burning in European waters. That unprovoked assault violated international law. Now, Israel has escalated again by targeting another peaceful civilian vessel.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 9 2025 5:05 utc | 85
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 4:40 utc | 84
This has to be your most bizarre post and that is no small feat. Panicking because you think the MOA contributors are too dumb to understand US & Israel’s collusion in criminality and saving us from the error of that judgement. Then there is some kind of strange, Israel the hapless Genocider victem slant. You seem to also be suggesting that Israel is another dumb lackey like Ukraine, Egypt or Jordan. Are you kidding me?
Posted by: Deniz | Jun 9 2025 5:17 utc | 86
see the two photos at the first link - the Free (from the Flotilla ship) and the Slaves (the three terrorists: bin Salman, Trump, and Jolani)
https://x.com/Ye_taleb/status/1931909026289185205
🇾🇪A.Taleb | عبدالرحمن ابوطالب @Ye_taleb
"الأحرار والعبيد"
"The Free and the Slaves"
#سفينة_مادلين #Madleen
https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status/1931926268250820828
Warfare Analysis @warfareanalysis
The reason they don’t want activists entering Gaza is to prevent their crimes from being exposed or documented by foreign sources, other than Gaza-based journalists, 226 of whom Israel has assassinated in less than two years.
https://x.com/EricHovagim/status/1931873016251851105
Eric Hovagim @EricHovagim
Death to Israel. Death to ICE. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 9 2025 5:29 utc | 87
Deniz 86
Greta Thunberg is protesting about genocide. But why is the genocide taking place? Because the West's Greenwash about weaning itself from fossil fuels , though possible, is too much like hard work. The West sees an imbalance between Russia's vast Oil resources and its own access to oil in the Middle East.
Israel is the sledgehammer to crack the oil nut.
Greta Thunberg is the poster girl for GreenWash. Let me tell you this. Nothing at all is going to happen in the Greening of the planet under the Capitalist system that , for Corporate business protection, refuses to share essential information about amazing new products.
The West is so busy making green energy into a business product, like a banking product, a legal.product etc that it cannot permit Green Energy to happen.
Tell me how Yemen has hypersonic weapons
but the US doesn't. Tell me why the West uses AI to re-wrte International Law, but RoW doesn't. The West doent share the scientific progress that needs to be shared, and the West doesn't preserve what needs to be preserved.
Greta Thunberg is large part of the dumbing down of intellectual thought in the West. Kelloggs cornflakes Sunshine breakast is available in every supermarket at half the price. Why?
Marketing. She is Marketing .
How is it possible for a piece of Marketing to break a Nazi / Western genocide? Pfffft. PeterAU1 had a word for it. FOADT.
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 8:07 utc | 88
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1931973247190659404
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
One of the most common hasbara lines today is "I bet you're mad the IDF just arrested Greta and her friends instead of murdering them! You were hoping they'd get killed!" It reveals so much about how cynical these freaks are that they'd project such a desire onto normal people.
These psychos are scrambling all over the internet trying to argue that it is actually good and normal to kidnap people for trying to deliver food to a besieged and starving civilian population, and even arguing that Israel should be viewed as kind and compassionate for merely kidnapping them instead of murdering them.
I mean, how fucked up do you have to be inside to make that work in your mind? There has to be something seriously, deeply wrong with you.
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1931922239043026954
Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
Genocidal terrorist warlord @Israel_katz, who ordered the abduction of @GretaThunberg and other Madleen passengers is going to force his hostages to watch propaganda films aimed at justifying the mass murder of Palestinians. @SweMFA and @EUinIsrael remain silent and complicit
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 9 2025 8:09 utc | 89
Giyane @ 88
What do you expect that one person to do? Stop capitalism, stop USA, stop Israel and make world peace?
So what is your solution, armchair general?
Let´s all go back to 40 mules and an acre apiece and see if our forests survive that?
It`s fairly easy to blame the US for all the world´s evil. Should no one protest Genocide now?
Posted by: SOS | Jun 9 2025 8:59 utc | 91
Georgie 90
The foaming mad , Capitalist, hegemonical, piracy that is the US ,
Is Evil.
Israel is just one of many, lying, US proxies, like Islamic State, and the EU.
There, fixed that for you .
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 9:04 utc | 92
" Death to Israel. Death to ICE. Free Palestine 🇵🇸
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 9 2025 5:29 utc | 87 "
Death to ICE ? Whats that have to do with the topic at hand ?
Posted by: The painter | Jun 9 2025 9:23 utc | 93
SOS 91
Why put back agriculture 500 years. That's not a fair comparison with what I am talking about. The Green industry with Greta Thunberg is mascot for , has suppressed Green Solar technology for ten years, because it is jealous of China profiting from new technology for battery storage that is compatible with Western Electrical Regulations.
As a direct result of this jealousy, stopping the Green Revolution happening in the West , the West is now colonising Asia through Isis and Israel. There never was a plan Not to do so.
Instead of Greening the West and buying fossil fuels and Green engineering from Asia , the plan all along has been to suppress Asia and steal the oil.
I happen to find it morally disgusting that Greta allows herself to be used for the laundering of this Capitalist incapacity to do good in the world.
She allowed her image to be a mascot for the sewage of lies coming from the Green Industry, and now she is allowing her image to disguise the perpetrators of the Palestine Genocide.
The genociders are Western global Capitalists who wants to suppress Islam, knowing that buying oil , instead of stealing it, from West Asia would boost Islam to the skies.
They're both genociders and Crusaders.
The sweetness to them of massacring and torturing Muslims, while stealing their resources needs some sort of cover or distraction from the realities of mass starvation and bombings.
Greta Thunberg's flotilla is the distraction they have chosen.
It makes me sick.
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 9:31 utc | 94
Two things about this genocide.
Funny how the completely Westernised Arabs don't het genocided but the real Muslims do.
Funny how the US destroyed Europe's access to cheap fossil fuels from Russia, in order to justify the Colonisation of the fossil fuels of West Asia.
Victor Orban , after objecting to losing Russian Energy has become the strongest supporter , with Germany, of the new Energy source.
How shallow is man when they see a genocide , like the genocide they themselves witnessed, suffered and or perpetrated themselves , rush to support it?
Possibly Greta having some kind of Autism , has a form of tunnel vision that is unable to see the wider context of this petro-crusader-genocide.
Poor girl. I hope she survives this ordeal, expendable though her managers obviously see her. I've nothing against her, only against the cynicism and Islamophobia of the Global elites on the West
That doesn't excuse the Islamophobic destruction of West Asia by her political management.
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 10:11 utc | 95
In Britain , households and businesses that have solar panels and battery storage have no need to use Peak time electricity at all. They might need to use Off Peak in winter. But the government forces the Energy Companies to charge a Standing charge which in my case is more than the cost of the Electricity I use.
There is no incentive to invest in Solar Energy. Our government has no plan at all to assist the Greening of our country . Just Green wash.
In the Middle East therefore only two months of winter, the rest of the year sunshine. But under conditions of constant war, nobody in the Middle East except Israel can afford to invest on a large scale in Solar infrastrucure.
The unfairness is a feature , not a glitch. Western policy ranges from absolutely Islamophobic to Totally genocidal. I want to bear witness to this to all you American survivalists who rig up PV systems at home.
The peaceful human instinct for survival that you take for granted , is daily sabotaged in the Middle East.
Israel attacked survivalist equipment like Pagers and Solar battery controllers , implanting powerful explosives that maimed their users.
The Muslims of the Middle East share your values. Your government does not.
They constantly attack all the things that you treasure in your lives, your freedom and independence, in Middle Eastern lives.
It's a sick world that attacks the beautiful independence of a sailing craft. Your country and its proxies attacks the things you value every day in the Middle East. To oppose and crush Islam, and to steal the Muslims'.safety and resources.
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 10:49 utc | 96
It all feels so hopeless. Nothing can stop colonial Israel. I never bought into the theory that Jews control the world but now I do. The whole West including China and Russia are supporting the total annihilation of a civilization. The West cries and sanctions Russia a thousand times concerning Ukraine but are okay and helping in the wiping out of Palestinians. World Food Aid workers from Western countries got murdered by Israelis and these people were num. China and Russia love talking about the atrocities happening in order to please the global south but they do not really care because if they did, they would not continue to trade with colonial Israel.
At the moment it seems like nothing can stop the Israeli colony from its goal. Even the Arab states support it. I once thought they were just cowards but not anymore. They fully support colonial Israel. Cowards do not give money, offer transportation bridges, sell food, shoot down missiles and drones aiming for the evil colony, prosecute, jail and kill their citizens who dare protest or harm an Israeli IOF soldier.
It is like in movies where evil consumes a place or person and there is nothing to stop it. The Israeli colony is EVIL.
Posted by: Georgie | Jun 9 2025 11:12 utc | 97
https://x.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1932004516641091731
Craig Murray @CraigMurrayOrg
This is the letter I sent my MP about the Madleen. If you live in the UK feel free to copy or adapt it.
BEGINS
I write to you with regard to the seizure of the British flagged vessel the Madleen by Israel on the High Seas.
This was plainly an illegal act.
The Madleen was on a lawful humanitarian aid mission. It was not armed. It was not in Israeli territorial waters and had no plan to enter Israeli territorial waters. It was planning to enter Gazan waters where Israel is the occupying power, but that gives Israel no power to block humanitarian aid in Gazan waters.
The blockade of Gaza is an illegal act of collective punishment.
The legal statement on protection of lawful UK shipping which was made about the Houthis, must also apply here to Israel. If not, I should be fascinated to hear why not.
I also want to know whether British military assets on or operating from nearby Cyprus were monitoring the illegal Israeli attack on the Madleen and why they did not intervene.
Also as Israel signaled this attack well in advance what diplomatic representations were made to the government of Israel, both before and after the attack.
Thank you
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 9 2025 11:20 utc | 98
My MP is a good house slave Muslim Shabana Mahmoud. Also happens to be Lord Chancellor and Secretary of Stare for Justice. So high up Starmer's Zionist backside you can't see her.
Posted by: Giyane | Jun 9 2025 11:32 utc | 99
World attention on them:
Mossad Commentary
@MOSSADil
IDF delivers humanitarian aid to Hamas flotilla members
See Video (0.25 sec)
https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/1931887714024247342
Posted by: Menz | Jun 9 2025 11:50 utc | 100
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see the 1:00 video at the first link
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1931402702023430390
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
Somewhere in the Mediterranean a Zionist KinderNazi naval battalion is currently hunting for Greta Thunberg
https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1931285749896282118
The Cradle @TheCradleMedia
Canada strips Jewish National Fund of charitable status after 57 years, forcing its shut down after court rejects final appeal
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In a crushing legal blow, a Canadian federal court has upheld the government’s decision to strip the Jewish National Fund of Canada (JNF) of its charitable status, ending a 57-year run of tax-exempt support for Zionist colonization in Palestine. The court’s 30 May decision rejects JNF Canada’s final legal appeal, marking the official collapse of its status as a registered charity.
The JNF has been funneling Canadian donations into Israeli military projects and the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, and has been condemned for greenwashing war crimes by planting forests over depopulated Palestinian villages. While the CRA first revoked its status in August 2024, the court’s ruling cements the order, forcing the organization to begin shutting down operations. One of Canada’s oldest Zionist institutions is now legally defunct.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/rationalizing-the-horrors-of-israels-war-in-gaza
Rationalizing the Horrors of Israel’s War in Gaza
The novelist Howard Jacobson has argued that too much press coverage of dead Palestinian children is a new form of “blood libel” against Jews.....
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 8 2025 13:49 utc | 1