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June 5, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-124

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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This is a 2fer…
Caitlin Johnstone has her most memorable article, imho.
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/this-is-israel
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I received help from barflies in adding to the list of why Israel thinks it should exist:
Thx for the joint effort!

Here is why Israel thinks it should exist and be a member in good standing at the UN:
     
1) I torture UN workers
2) I bomb embassies
3) I refuse to declare my official borders as I want more and more of other countries’ (plural) land
4) I openly interfere in the affairs of other countries.
5) All criticism by any member of the World Community just reinforces my sense of privileged Victimhood
6) I never tell a lie as I have no concept. I only know what serves me.
7) I invented the Samson Option and will take the rest of you with me.
8) I commit collective punishment
9) I kidnap thousands, including children, with no judicial oversight
10) I will commit torture if I see fit and even if I don’t
11) I oppress occupied inhabitants and enjoy doing so
12) I commit rape with impunity against mine enemies
13) I steal land with impunity
14) I murder with impunity
15) I commit premeditated Genocide
16) I look forward to war and prod my neighbors for more
17) I need money, send a check
18) I commit false flags and if friends or even my own people are sacrificed so be it.
19) I implement the Hannibal Doctrine
20) Treachery and betrayal of my own people are a means to an end
21) I support and conduct terrorism.
22) I openly interfere in the affairs of other countries, seeking support for all of the above
23) I know that I can count on other amoral nations to support my wars, oppression and theft.
24) I know that the World Community will not stop me as I commit future Genocides
25) I target aid trucks and kill their workers;
26) I especially target hospitals;
27) I kill civilians prisoners, women and children and old people.
28) I use my lobbyists to attack, intimidate and silence freedom of speech
29) I torture and kill UN workers and their dependents
30) I protected Zionist perpetrators of the Holocaust and lie about their role.
31) I cannibalize living Palestinian captives for their internal organs
32) I use human shields
33) I kill and kill and kill as many journalists as I can find
34) I take delight in being a hyper-sadist and proudly boast of it; “1 shot 2 kills”
35) I use starvation as both a tactic and for my strategic goal of Genocide.
36) Most of my people support mass murder, racism and theft, and thus make known the true nature and meaning of Israel.
     
Those that would make it illegal to protest against Genocide support the Psychopathic Genocidal Entity that has given voice to the urge to kill us all (Samson Option). When madness speaks people had darn well take notice.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 5 2025 13:55 utc | 1

Dr. Fadl Naim, director of the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza, stated that occupation forces directly targeted the hospital, resulting in three deaths. This marks the eighth time the hospital has been targeted since the war began. The hospital faces immense pressure after many facilities in the Strip became inoperable.
A medical source at the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza City confirmed the deaths of four journalists after an Israeli shelling on the hospital. An Al Jazeera correspondent reported that an Israeli drone directly shelled the journalists who were at the hospital covering war developments
(Al Jazeera carried by https://www.palestinechronicle.com/live-blog)
The official Russian news agency TASS:
Israel attacks command center of radicals in Gaza City’s Al-Ahli Hospital
TEL AVIV, June 5. /TASS/. The Israel Defense Forces said it struck a command and control center in the courtyard of Al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City, targeting a Palestinian Islamic Jihad operative.
“Some time ago, the Israel Defense Forces carried out a precision strike against an Islamic Jihad terrorist who was operating in a command and control center in the courtyard of Al-Ahli Hospital in the Gaza City area of the central Gaza Strip,” the IDF said in a statement.
The center was used by “terrorists to plan and carry out terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians and soldiers,” according to the statement.
“Prior to the strike, measures were taken to reduce the risk of harm to civilians,” the IDF said.
The measures included the use of precision munitions, air surveillance and the use of additional intelligence information, according to the IDF.
“The IDF will continue to fight terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip to eliminate the threat to Israeli civilians,” it said.
Comment: TASS reports everything from the Zionist side as fact, and everything from the Palestinian side with a reservation.

Posted by: JB | Jun 5 2025 14:03 utc | 2

Otto Penn. I would like to add: 37) I shoot little boys in the genitals.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 5 2025 14:03 utc | 3

@Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 5 2025 14:03 utc | 3
Thx, could you provide a source for me?
Thx!

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 5 2025 14:16 utc | 4

@ Otto Penn:
First: great list. Keep it going.
To other Bar members: help build and propagate the list. The world needs to see this and hear it and consider it.
Otto, can this be reformulated into a short-list that can be easily read in 10 secs? Have the 2nd edition point to the first for more detail.
Can the list be posted outside MoA and linked to? Can it be translated and posted elsewhere beyond the censorship of the U.S. and E.U.?
Also: #22 and #4 are very similar. Pick one and go with it.
This quote should get center billing in your materials:
When madness speaks people had darn well take notice.
Thanks for your efforts. PR is what makes the Zionists effective. Trash their PR.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 5 2025 14:20 utc | 5

I don’t know what flag these folk are sailing under – but the Zionists will not think twice about killing them all, if, they don’t do as they are told – the Zio-Monsters are already in the middle of carrying out a genocide – I doubt they’ll give a toss about sinking the Freedom Fotilla with everyone on it.
“The Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) continues its journey to Gaza to break the siege on the territory in defiance of the Israeli regime’s threats to target its vessel, the Madleen.
The Madleen ship departed from Italy on Sunday, carrying food, medical supplies, and baby items bound for Gaza.
Israel warned Wednesday that it was “prepared” to “act accordingly” to stop the FFC from reaching Gaza.
Meanwhile, the FFC reported that a drone initially approached and circled the ship south of Crete, Greece, on Wednesday night, with two additional drones joining shortly afterwards.
“These actions raise serious concerns about whether Greece and/or the European Union is conducting surveillance on behalf of Israel,” it said in a statement.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 5 2025 14:27 utc | 6

A running commentary from the useless UN – on what we already know is happening in Gaza.
“The UN says all hospitals in northern Gaza have ceased functioning as a result of Israel’s military aggression, while aid deliveries continue to be blocked due to the regime’s persisting refusal to allow access.
“Our colleagues on the ground tell us that the latest figures indicate that in the past three weeks, more than 100,000 people were forced to flee in the governorates of North Gaza and Gaza alone,” spokesperson Stephane Dujarric said at a news conference on Wednesday.
He stated that health partners have warned that facilities are “heavily impacted by the ongoing hostilities,” with an increasing number of them halting operations each day.
“On Monday, the remaining staff and patients in the Indonesian Hospital, in North Gaza, were evacuated. As a result, not a single hospital remains functional in North Gaza,” Dujarric added.
He said that while the UN continues to deliver aid through the Karem Abu Salem (Kerem Shalom) crossing, Israel approved only 50 flour-carrying trucks from a batch of 130 that had already received preliminary clearance.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 5 2025 14:30 utc | 7

Its a genocide for f*cks sake – bypass the Yanks, by suspending UN rules on this one occasion.
“Palestinian factions have blasted the US for exercising its veto power against a United Nations Security Council draft resolution calling for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip, saying the move once again exposes Washington’s complicity in the Israeli regime’s crimes against Palestinians.
The document described the situation in Gaza as “catastrophic” and demanded “an immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire” there, as well as the lifting of all restrictions on the entry of humanitarian aid into the besieged territory.
During a UNSC meeting on Wednesday, the draft received 14 votes in favor, with the US casting the only vote against, the fifth time that the US blocked a Security Council truce resolution to end the brutal Israeli aggression against Gaza.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 5 2025 14:33 utc | 8

JB | Jun 5 2025 14:03 utc | 2
JB, it is true, Russia, its TASS agency, could do more to help Palestinians, and they do not. My question is a big WHY?

Posted by: fanto | Jun 5 2025 15:12 utc | 9

“The Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) continues its journey to Gaza to break the siege on the territory in defiance of the Israeli regime’s threats to target its vessel, the Madleen”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 5 2025 14:27 utc | 6
The Madleen should rename itself the USS Liberty and fly an American flag and see how fast Israel attacks it.

Posted by: Matt | Jun 5 2025 15:18 utc | 10

The goals of the Israeli government remain
Keep Bibi out of jail
Destroy the left wing
Increase worldwide antisemitism
Nothing about Arabs in there at all, just not a consideration.
What happened to Hamas?
Still fighting, cannot be defeated by military means.
What happened to Hezbollah?
Still ruling Lebanon.
Still maintaining an arsenal to deter Israel.
Defeated Israel in the ground war.
Cannot effectively stop Israeli terror bombing.
What is Russia doing?
The Assad family was safely evacuated and Russia still has their bases.
Israel is a card to be flipped their way, the effective bits of the
IDF are mostly Russian.
Left wing Russians safely side lined in Israel.
Who is losing?
The part of Israeli civil society that earns money and serves in the IDF.
The school budgets are cut to fund the crazies who don’t recognize the stat.

Posted by: Polli | Jun 5 2025 15:27 utc | 11

US Stands Alone in Vetoing UN Call For Gaza Ceasefire [Never forgive, never forget]
https://x.com/timand2037/status/1930540223257358396
“Who are the worst criminals: those who pull the trigger or those who supply and protect them?”
AOC: Liberal Zionist Double Speak (& vid)
https://x.com/timand2037/status/1930462008056705026
“Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez repeats the deceptive claims of US commitment to the ‘stability and security’ of the West Asia region through supplying the genocidal Israeli regime.
Free Palestine! Death to USrael!

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 5 2025 15:45 utc | 12

to Otto Penn. Here is the link. I put it up on the older Palestine thread. https://www.mintpressnews.com/gaza-hospitals-nurse-testimony-shooting-boys-genocide/289919/

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 5 2025 16:48 utc | 13

https://x.com/afshinrattansi/status/1930361707366334894
Afshin Rattansi @afshinrattansi
BREAKING: The US🇺🇸 has vetoed yet another UN Security Council Resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, and unhindered access to aid.
The bloody hand of the US rises again to shut down another attempt to stop the genocidal barbarism.
Even the UK and France, traditional supporters of Israel’s genocidal barbarism, voted with Russia🇷🇺 and China🇨🇳 for the resolution.
Once again the US is exposed as the world’s primary force of war, destruction, and imperial carnage.
Whether it’s Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden, or Trump, the power may change hands, but the barbarism never stops.
https://x.com/Normanjam67/status/1930364481818829300
Sir Norman of Nowhere. 🏴‍☠️ @Normanjam67
This is the third time since this genocide started that the US has used its veto to prevent a United Nations Security Council Resolution, calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.
This genocide belongs to the US as much as Israel.
https://x.com/anthonyzenkus/status/1930257830772166946
Prof Zenkus @anthonyzenkus
IDF: “We are prepared to defend the citizens of the State of Israel…. in the maritime arena.”
Defend your citizens? From an aid ship carrying food, medicine and Greta Thunberg? What??
Maniacs. The regime is out of control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR4zGqfJIiY
🚨4 Yemeni Attacks STUN Israel: HYPERSONIC Missiles & LONG RANGE Drones
Mahmood OD | محمود عودة
131K subscribers

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 5 2025 16:56 utc | 14

Defend your citizens? From an aid ship carrying food, medicine and Greta Thunberg? What??
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Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 5 2025 16:56 utc | 14
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I think Greta has quite an unrealistic idea of her importance and power. We shall soon see . . .

Posted by: Jane | Jun 5 2025 17:36 utc | 15

Electronic Intifada Podcast
https://x.com/intifada/status/1930655988727824428
“Breaking news and analysis on day 608 of the Gaza genocide. Includes Jon Elmer’s Resistance Report

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 5 2025 17:40 utc | 16

I think Greta has quite an unrealistic idea of her importance and power. We shall soon see . . .
Posted by: Jane | Jun 5 2025 17:36 utc | 15
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That may be so. My suspicion is that she’ll be Furkan Dogan’d, and the world will respond with a collective shrug and move on. But still it’s better and nobler to do something rather than nothing.
Myself, I think her greatest accomplishment might well prove to be getting the libs to hate her as much as the cons already do.

Posted by: malenkov | Jun 5 2025 17:50 utc | 17

see the 12-second video at the first link
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1930626807675359553
Sarah Wilkinson @swilkinsonbc
The israelis kill 4 journalists & 2 civilians, as well as injuring dozens of other innocent people sitting in Al-Ahli Hospital courtyard in Gaza City
https://x.com/Ema97n/status/1930362972540678565
Ema🇵🇸 @Ema97n
I keep thinking about the kids who were playing football yesterday—just trying to escape the dark reality for a brief moment. But Israel bombed them.
I can’t stop wondering: what kind of mindset sees children kicking a ball and thinks, let’s bomb them?
Tell me again who the terrorists are??
https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1930668968920195241
Assal Rad @AssalRad
Remember when Israel said aid couldn’t be delivered because of looting and armed gangs? Remember when they shared a video of armed men preventing Palestinians from getting aid?
Every accusation is a confession.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/sources-confirm-israel-arming-gazan-gang-to-bolster-opposition-to-hamas/
Sources confirm Israel arming Gazan gang to bolster opposition to Hamas

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 5 2025 18:01 utc | 18

Gaza Freedom Flotilla to be seized, activists arrested by Israel: Report:
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/31204

Posted by: Vortex | Jun 5 2025 18:29 utc | 19

Briefly region:
-Lebanese factions refuse to hand in weapons to govt. . “Israel” is now carrying out drone strikes on Beirut.
-Staging posts in Syria being built by “Israel”.
https://t.me/youseffares19/78469
-“Smotrich :
I have instructed Civil Administration employees to begin working to apply sovereignty over the West Bank.”
– “Israel” arms sales to gulf states accounted for 10% of export earnings (sorry no link).

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 5 2025 18:53 utc | 21

Statements regarding “Israeli” funded militia in Gaza, for the record. Supplying militia/gangs is to provide a layer of deniability while sowing destruction and confusion. Quotes not used, from titled sites.
=> Pls. Skip if not interested or too long.
•••Via Journalist Youssef Fares
•Al Jazeera, citing Israeli Army Radio:
– Israel transferred weapons to Yasser Abu Shabab’s militia, including light weapons confiscated from Hamas.
– Abu Shabab’s militia operates east of Rafah in areas controlled by the army.
– The arming of Abu Shabab’s militia came at the initiative of the security services and the political leadership.
• Israeli Army Radio:
New details about Israel’s cooperation with the Yasser Abu Shabab militia based in Gaza:
– Israel transferred weapons to militia members, many of which were confiscated from Hamas and seized in the Strip (Kalashnikov rifles).
– The militia’s activity is concentrated in the Rafah area, an area occupied and cleansed by the Israeli army, and Abu Shabab’s men are now operating there.
– Among the militia members’ tasks are protecting humanitarian aid entering the Gaza Strip and fighting Hamas.
– This initiative was developed in cooperation with the security services and was raised to the political echelon, which approved the plan. According to informed sources, this decision does not require cabinet approval.
– The Yasser Abu Shabab militia is the only one, at this stage, with which Israel cooperates. There are no other Gazan groups cooperating with it in a similar manner.
•••Via Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma
•Israel Hayom:
Yisrael Beiteinu party leader Avigdor Lieberman: “The Israeli security establishment, under the direct orders of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, secretly delivered weapons to criminal families and gangs in Gaza. The operation was not presented to the cabinet, and the head of the Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) is aware of the matter.”
•Army Radio:
Armed Palestinian families in Gaza are collaborating with Israel and are not affiliated with either Hamas or Fatah.
These are local residents of Gaza fighting against Hamas and helping secure humanitarian aid distribution centers.
••• Via Pal74press
• Maariv:
“Escaped from Hamas prison: Meet the leader of the militia armed by Israel in Gaza.”
Israeli security officials confirmed today that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the Civil Administration to distribute weapons to gangs in the southern Gaza Strip, some of which have ties to Salafist groups. The security establishment says the goal is to reduce Hamas’s power in the Strip.
Among the gangs stands out a group led by Yasser Abu Shabab, born in 1993, who was imprisoned by Hamas until October 2023 on charges of theft and drug offenses. He escaped following an Israeli airstrike on security facilities at the beginning of the war.
An internal UN memo, leaked to the Washington Post, described Abu Shabab as “the most important element behind the systematic looting of aid” in the Kerem Shalom area, and that his activities are carried out under the “sponsorship of the Israeli military.”
••• Via journalist Aymam hanideq
•Hamas Movement:
– The gangs that have made a profession of treason and theft and operate under direct Israeli security supervision are cheap tools in the hands of the enemy and a true enemy of our people. They will be pursued and held accountable with firmness by our people’s forces and the relevant security services.
– We call on the masses of our heroic people to be wary of these gangs, lift societal cover from them, and cooperate with the security forces and popular committees to protect our society and its resources from the occupation’s internal arms.
•Resistance Security in Gaza:
After the enemy admitted to funding mercenaries stationed in the occupation-controlled areas east of Rafah, the resistance security has made a decision to consider them legitimate targets, just like the occupation forces. They will be targeted with ambushes, explosive devices, and all means at the resistance’s disposal.
The enemy’s admission confirmed the resistance’s intelligence assessments about the close relationship between the occupation and the mercenaries.
We consider every individual involved in mercenary gangs an Israeli soldier. We will deal with them with the utmost force, and tomorrow is near.
•••Via channel of martyred Hossam Shabat
•The Zionist military-security objective:
1. Reproducing the “Lahad Army” model or the “Village Leagues”:
Israel seeks to create a local Palestinian armed force that will play the role of its “security agent” or “field arm,” just as it did in southern Lebanon during the era of Antoine Lahad’s Army, and as it attempted in the West Bank through the “Village Leagues” in the 1980s.
2. Fragmenting the internal front of the resistance:
The organized arming of some local gangs—such as the Abu Shabab militia—aims to ignite internal conflicts between the resistance and these proxy groups, thus draining the resistance’s energies and undermining its popular support base.
3. Transforming the occupied territories into fortified intelligence-gathering zones:
These militias operate within the occupation army’s deployment areas in the southern Gaza Strip (Rafah and Khan Yunis) and perform dual functions: protecting relief convoys, monitoring the population, providing direct security information, and attacking resistance elements if necessary.
Abv. Quoted from Rami Abu Zubaydah, a researcher in military and security affairs.
•Press release issued by the Islamic Resistance Movement Hamas:
– Dangerous Zionist admission of arming gangs in Gaza: The occupation is supervising the engineering of chaos, starvation, and theft of aid
– The statements of the head of the “Yisrael Beitenu” party, Avigdor Lieberman, reveal a stark and dangerous truth: the Israeli occupation army is arming criminal gangs in the Gaza Strip, with the aim of creating a state of security and social chaos, and promoting the occupation’s projects to engineer starvation and the systematic theft of humanitarian aid.
– We, in the Islamic Resistance Movement Hamas, affirm that this official admission confirms what has been revealed by field facts over the past months: clear coordination between gangs of thieves and collaborators with the occupation and the enemy army itself, in looting aid and creating humanitarian crises that increase the suffering of our besieged people.
– This admission confirms that the occupation army is not satisfied with bombing and mass killing, but rather directly organizes and sponsors operations of theft and starvation through these collaborating gangs, in an attempt to break the will of our people and influence their resistance environment.
– These gangs, who have made a profession of treason and theft, operate under direct Zionist security supervision. They are cheap tools in the hands of the enemy and a true enemy of our Palestinian people. They will be pursued and held accountable with firmness by our people’s forces and the relevant security services.
– We call on the masses of our heroic people to be wary of these gangs, lift societal cover from them, and cooperate with the security forces and popular committees to protect our society and its resources from the internal arms of the occupation.
• Clan frameworks and gatherings: Abu Shabab is an Israeli soldier and his gang is an occupying force.
-The National Gathering of Palestinian Tribes, Clans and Families:
Abu Shabab is outside the customs, traditions and traditions of our people; he has pledged himself as a soldier in an army that is exterminating his people; and his crimes serve the goals of his occupier.
-The Supreme Council for Tribal Affairs in Gaza:
What Abu Shabab and his gang are doing represents a blatant violation of national norms and traditions and is considered a crime against our Palestinian people.
-Badia Tribes and Clans Council:
We consider Abu Shabab and his ilk traitors to the cause and dirty tools in the hands of an enemy that wants nothing but humiliation, hunger, and distortion for this people.
-Palestinian Mukhtars Association:
These gangs will end up in the dustbins of history; they will not receive any popular support; and the hand of justice will inevitably reach them one day.
-The Islamic Jihad Movement’s Social Communication and Reform Committee:
We clearly affirm that this occupation and its cheap tools will be defeated; they will have no power over our people; and our history records those who betrayed it in the trash can.
••• Via Al-Aqsa Palestine
•Ministry of Interior in Gaza :
We call on our people, with all their families, clans and components, to stand united alongside the security and police forces to thwart the occupation’s dangerous plans and protect the security of our society by confronting a gang that sold itself to the occupation. We will continue to take strict measures against this gang.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 5 2025 19:06 utc | 22

Jeremy Corbyn: UK must decide if it will ‘block efforts to expose truth’ over Israel support:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/jeremy-corbyn-uk-government-israel-gaza-block-truth

Posted by: Vortex | Jun 5 2025 19:10 utc | 23

Link found on Freedom Fotilla Site:
See The Truth: Lost at Sea, a documentary by Rifat Audeh, a participant aboard the Mavi Marmara in 2010 when Israeli troops boarded the ship, killed nine people and left one in a coma who subsequently died.
See the film’s web site with links to ways of seeing the film: https://truthlostatsea.com/

Posted by: Exile | Jun 5 2025 19:23 utc | 24

“Netanyahu’s Government is About To Collapse. For Real” (??????????????????????)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8LsHWo5H00
The video thinks the proposal to draft ultra orthodox jews into the IDF is going to shatter, is threatning to blow up/dissolve the current Israeli government of Netanyahu.

Posted by: WMG | Jun 5 2025 19:36 utc | 25

fanto 9
It’s not a big question . Russia lost 30 million Russians and bankrupted itself protecti Europe from its own elected savages, the Nazis. Are tbey going to repeat that sacrifice when Western populations are too lazy to resist the repeated threat of Nazism even in their own countries , let alone in Ukraine and West Asia.
The Big question is when the Western populations will recognise that Nazism is upon us now , under a slightly different flag, and do something about it before it is too late, which was yesterday.
Blaming Russia is trolling. We are the problem and we think they are going to save us again , like before. Not going to happen.

Posted by: Giyane | Jun 5 2025 19:38 utc | 26

“These actions raise serious concerns about whether Greece and/or the European Union is conducting surveillance on behalf of Israel,” it said in a statement.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 5 2025 14:27 utc | 6
I admire their bravery, but if they don’t already have an answer to this question they’re far too naive to be carrying out this plan. Of course Europe is crying crocodile tears for Palestine while offering Israel whatever it needs. Plus ca change.
Really, the cruelest thing the Israelis can do is let the food through. Those rotten people probably have “terrorist” gangs like Israel-Sponsored Islamic State ready to rob the yacht, steal the “symbolic” food supplies, and brutalize the activists.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 5 2025 20:27 utc | 27

“Netanyahu’s Government is About To Collapse. For Real?”
@Posted by: WMG | Jun 5 2025 19:36 utc | 25
Lots of news articles about it, if you do a search.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 5 2025 21:00 utc | 28

Otto, can this be reformulated into a short-list that can be easily read in 10 secs? Have the 2nd edition point to the first for more detail.
Can the list be posted outside MoA and linked to?

@Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 5 2025 14:20 utc | 5
Great suggestion, I will work on it.
Also, you can copy & paste anything I write
and then post it anywhere you like. No attribution necessary.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Jun 5 2025 21:03 utc | 29

“Time to drop the really big bomb: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public.” He added: “Have a nice day, DJT! Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out.”
https://www.rt.com/news/618713-musk-trump-epstein-files/
And we needed Musk to work that one out?
Gee… skies is blue.. forests are green… could never have guessed, that was the reason Trump is the biggest zionist we’ve ever seen…

Posted by: Rubiconned | Jun 5 2025 21:18 utc | 30

Le Monde and BBC did not have the US veto on their frontpage. This says everything we need to know the EU critivs of Israhell genocidal policoes.

Posted by: Tom | Jun 5 2025 21:25 utc | 31

To now “23 Israeli drone and fighter jet raids on Beirut’s southern suburbs. 8 raids were carried out by warplanes and 15 warning raids were carried out by Israeli drones”
https://t.me/Sohaibpress/103424
“Next to the targeted gathering of journalists in the courtyard of the Baptist Hospital, Ismail Abu Baid was sitting waiting for his only wounded son to regain consciousness. He had lost his other son months earlier. Abu Baid was martyred and passed away before he could see his son’s recovery. He passed away as one of the thousands of stories that are being crushed by the days of this harsh war.
Youssef Fares,
Occupied Palestine”

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 5 2025 21:56 utc | 32

Still no anti-air anywhere? Not only Palestine but Lebanon, and maybe Syria too. Am I wrong?
Why?
And yes I am asking and looking at every nation-state in the world, they are all allegedly on this planet and they are all allegedly human.
It doesn’t have to be public, it can be deniable and whatnot, but it clearly has not happened yet.
Or if any criminals or weapon smugglers with access to anti-air want to provide it out of the goodness of their hearts then I am okay with that too.
Or if hobbyists anywhere are willing to try to do something creative against F-16s with quadcopters or whatnot, that would be great. The F-16s etc. have to take off and land and “Israel” only has seven or so airforce bases, let’s say ten. Maybe something asymmetrical is possible.
And of course there’s “always” the topic of fuel. Fuel which can be so easily spoiled, it doesn’t even have to go boom. Am I wrong again?
Anything to ruin the “Israeli” flying artillery.
I am sorry and depressed that pointing this out is perhaps the most consequential thing I can do (imagine if it pushed someone capable into doing or trying), even if it is an old broken record by now. I hope the march through Egypt is successful beyond all measure, same for the sailing boat.
No one in Turkey does anything? Except exporting goods and (non-Turkish) fuel to “Israel” I mean.
Greece? (Well they have a decent communist party and unions that have blocked shipments, better than Turkey so far?). Cyprus?
I realize there is much I don’t know, but it really is kind of quiet isn’t it? I don’t mean individuals protesting, demonstrating, marching, boycotting, (all good things to do!) I mean the other stuff; physically stopping “Israel”. I find it difficult to understand how this can be the case, but it is?
Is it even something one should mention or will it only cause people to become offended and defensive? Well I have no standing at all so please do not be so because of me or what I write, I am only sharing my distress and incomprehension.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 5 2025 23:27 utc | 33