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June 11, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-128
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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Debs, what is your take on this ‘re-interpretation’ of the treaty of Waitangi that occurred a year or two back. NZ has changed in the last few years. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 17:17 utc | 1 Afaik the reunification of Germany was preconditioned on some kind of non-aggression towards the USSR and Russia and this is imo clearly invalidated by now. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 11 2025 17:22 utc | 2 @ Sunny Runny Burger | Jun 11 2025 17:22 utc | 2 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 11 2025 17:29 utc | 3 ” To me, the halls of power in the anglo world are in London and corporate US. All our PM’s swear allegiance to the hereditary british monarch while kowtowing to the Americans. Oz, Canada, NZ. Posted by: The painter | Jun 11 2025 17:37 utc | 4 The painter | Jun 11 2025 17:37 utc | 4 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 17:45 utc | 5 I was a friend of Peter, when the hawk plane stooped upon us at Hole-in-the-Rock, it was Peter pulled me to safety. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 11 2025 17:58 utc | 6 The little kiddies say its the joos. others say its the bankers. little children scared of the dark say a boogie man is out there. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 18:25 utc | 7 An injury – just a matter of a suitable dressing and time and it will heal. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 18:37 utc | 8 As we draw near to a thrilling and patriotic military parade in the Wretched City I call on President Trump to take this to a historical level. Please, from the lead MAGA float, jump out of a giant birthday cake with Stormy Daniels in her impeachment swimsuit and Brother Mike Johnson wearing a “Big Beautiful Bill” toga. These colors don’t run. Posted by: chunga | Jun 11 2025 18:41 utc | 9 Posted by: chunga | Jun 11 2025 18:41 utc | 9 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 11 2025 18:43 utc | 10 chunga | Jun 11 2025 18:41 utc | 9 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 18:45 utc | 11 It’s not fair comparing “world leaders” with Putin. Nevertheless, he sets the standard. Posted by: chunga | Jun 11 2025 18:52 utc | 12 LoveDonbass | Jun 11 2025 18:43 utc | 10 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 11 2025 18:55 utc | 13 Concerning the historical progression related to what happened in the 1990s after the west suggested that NATO wouldn’t expand to former Warsaw-block countries, the new book ‘Hybris’ in swedish by Ola Tunander is an informative source Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 11 2025 20:05 utc | 14 Christopher Black: Balancing the Unbalanced Scales of International Criminal Justice Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 11 2025 20:34 utc | 15 This Saturday there will be an attempted coup, a color revolution in the US as the Soros NGO’s in co-operation with rogue elements in the CIA and MI6. Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 11 2025 21:28 utc | 16 Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 11 2025 21:28 utc | 17 Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 11 2025 21:40 utc | 17 Sorry to hear you have caught another “bug”. I am assuming you are actually referring to a cold or flu. I would like to offer that my wife and I have been regularly using chaga tea for near thirteen years. By regularly, I mean several time a week. Neither of us has been sick since, except me when I stopped for six months last winter. I am seventy-seven, and she is seventy-two. It is available from many northern states (Minnesota, Maine,Vermont) as well as Russia where I last purchased it. Unfortunately, after that purchase, my Paypal account was suspended. I would highly recommend you research Chaga. Get well my friend. Posted by: Stochue | Jun 11 2025 21:57 utc | 18 I was referring to Vitaliy Zakharchenko. He was the Minister of Internal Affairs. He talked about it in Ukraine on Fire. The Christmas Tree incident is what started the protests. I guess the trade deal was somehow added to the mix. Posted by: lex talionis | Jun 11 2025 21:57 utc | 19 Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.
Posted by: Passerby | Jun 11 2025 22:01 utc | 20 President Donald Trump at Fort Brag Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 11 2025 22:01 utc | 21 Trump’s Fort Brag Rant (url corrected from #22 above Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 11 2025 22:08 utc | 22 Larry Johnson (SONAR 21): Posted by: WMG | Jun 11 2025 22:09 utc | 23
Yes, it’s going to be ugly. The signs have been on the wall for years and yet, it still surprises me how fast this unravels. Posted by: Konami | Jun 11 2025 22:13 utc | 24 Laugh. ROTFLMAO. Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 11 2025 22:17 utc | 25 Looks like they are getting ready to attack Iran in a very short order. Posted by: Alpi | Jun 11 2025 22:30 utc | 26 Zionism is a tool, an anglo creation, same as islamic extremism and current nazism. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2025 23:36 utc | 27 More on Zionism being baked into (western/diaspora/Ashkenazi) Judaism [a follow-up on the previous Yasha Levine link]:
Apologies for the long post. Original is paywalled. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2025 23:39 utc | 28 Its not a good sign that US non essential personnel are being evaced from the ME, but I do not think the US will directly attack Iran. Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 12 2025 0:00 utc | 29 Re: German reunification and the US pledge that NATO would not move “one inch” to the east. Posted by: team10tim | Jun 12 2025 0:02 utc | 30 Apologies for the long post. Posted by: malenkov | Jun 12 2025 0:20 utc | 31 RE Iran. (??)
Err..”ends of the Earth”??? Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 12 2025 0:29 utc | 32 It seems to me at this point there is no barrier to a nuclear first strike by Israel. They ought not be afraid of becoming a pariah state. Posted by: UnionHorse | Jun 12 2025 0:35 utc | 34 If they really are going all bomb bomb bomb Iran… Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 12 2025 0:41 utc | 35 Anyone with a telegram? Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 12 2025 0:50 utc | 36 The Anglo-Zionists destroyed Hezbollah and have been occupying Southern Lebanon since. They along with their Persian Gulf Arab & Turkish allies destroyed Syria and installed an Al-CIA-duh operative as leader. They have also occupied Western Syria without a peep from the Al-CIA-duh administrator. Egypt and Jordan have been owned and operated by then for decades. Iraq has been disarmed. Yemen is just a nuisance; unable to do anything other than harass shipping and the odd lobbed projectile towards the occupied territories. Posted by: Saag | Jun 12 2025 0:50 utc | 37 Sen Tom Cotton on xwitter: Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 12 2025 0:58 utc | 38 Posted by: UnionHorse | Jun 12 2025 0:35 utc | 35 Posted by: saner | Jun 12 2025 1:10 utc | 39 Black people should know better than anyone else that police, whether local or from ICE, are the enemy and that we should never applaud their actions, even if we appear not to be the target… Posted by: Deport them all! | Jun 12 2025 1:23 utc | 40 Sunny Runny Burger @ 2: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jun 12 2025 2:03 utc | 41 Thomas Piketty Posted by: Menz | Jun 12 2025 2:12 utc | 42 https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1932958748269818179 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 12 2025 2:13 utc | 43 @ Deport them all! | Jun 12 2025 1:23 utc | 41 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 12 2025 2:20 utc | 44 Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 12 2025 0:58 utc | 39 Posted by: saner | Jun 12 2025 2:37 utc | 45 Posted by: malenkov | Jun 12 2025 2:20 utc | 45 Posted by: Deport them all! | Jun 12 2025 3:20 utc | 46 Posted by: Deport them all! | Jun 12 2025 1:23 utc | 41 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 3:33 utc | 47 tip of the iceberg?? no wonder folks are protesting.. it is pretty outrageous what is going on.. usa is falling apart, but i suppose this is a nice distraction for trump. Posted by: james | Jun 12 2025 3:51 utc | 48 hat tip to richard steven hack for sharing the last part of my post in his substack.. my comment is at the very end and the first part.. Posted by: james | Jun 12 2025 3:53 utc | 49 is this a trial run of trumps police state given how the usa is falling apart so quickly under him?? Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:10 utc | 50 @ Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:10 utc | 51 Posted by: james | Jun 12 2025 4:16 utc | 51 On these Nat. Guard and Marine deployments. The scope and scale of these protests and eventual localized riots comes nowhere near the need for such heavy handed suppression tactics or the optics that naturally accompany them. This is as much a PR tactic as it is an intentional attempt at provocation to “justify” doubling and then tripling down, culminating in martial law. All because a few ICE agents were momentarily impeded in their warrantless work to meet a new Stephen Miller order to arrest and deport more people. They know that Biden and the “open borders” Dems deported more, and that Obama before them did. Hence this is at once a provocation and a trial run. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:21 utc | 52 46. Posted by: Little WhiteCabbage | Jun 12 2025 4:31 utc | 53 Posted by: james | Jun 12 2025 4:16 utc | 52 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:39 utc | 54 BTW: when I said “Yeah some Waymo cars will burn, a few Adidas and Gucci shops will be vandalized or looted, but the more the better.” Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:52 utc | 55 @ Little WhiteCabbage | Jun 12 2025 4:31 utc | 54 Posted by: james | Jun 12 2025 4:52 utc | 56 @ Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:52 utc | 56 Posted by: james | Jun 12 2025 4:55 utc | 57 i think it is therapeutic to get some of this off our chests, so here i am doing it, lol.. off to read offline.. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:58 utc | 58 Just watched Dead Kennedys’ “Kinky Sex Makes The World Go Round”, posted by a barfly on earlier thread. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 12 2025 5:07 utc | 59 @ UnionHorse | Jun 12 2025 0:35 utc | 35 Posted by: Cabe | Jun 12 2025 5:25 utc | 60 Mass deportation of immigrants from Latin America in US has to do with Industry 4.0, Robotics and the expansion of AI and automation of services. It’s pressure from Silicon Valley rather than Maga nuts.. Posted by: Nick | Jun 12 2025 5:47 utc | 61 @Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2025 23:36 utc | 28 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 12 2025 5:49 utc | 62 For all intents and purposes Iran already has nuclear deterrence. They’ve had it for years. Posted by: team10tim | Jun 12 2025 5:50 utc | 63 It would be galactic level trolling if the Chinese deploy nukes in Iran Posted by: 667 | Jun 12 2025 6:09 utc | 64 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 12 2025 5:49 utc | 63 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 6:18 utc | 65 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 12 2025 5:49 utc | 63 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 6:21 utc | 66 Tribe vs tribe. Posted by: too scents | Jun 12 2025 6:47 utc | 67 10 year treasury auction seemed fine on Wednesday. Nothing dramatic either direction. Posted by: Exile | Jun 12 2025 7:21 utc | 68 Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 11 2025 23:36 utc | 28 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 12 2025 8:45 utc | 69 “… Trump is something of an Amerian Gorbachev/Yeltsin. Like an imploding star that shone brightly for a bit, The Americans will quite likely get sucked down into the black hole of their own long drop. Posted by: juliania | Jun 12 2025 8:55 utc | 70 Thank you, Tom. For Orthodox Christianity, the way of overcoming this trend is best expressed in two fables: ‘The Way of a Pilgrim’ and ‘The Pilgrim follows His Way’ which are combined in one small volume. I had it in paperback, will attempt to recover it eventually. The basic idea is that one reads the Old Testament with Christ always in mind, even as far back as Genesis. Places where this feels impossible to do, one simply passes over.(This is what Jesus himself did.) Posted by: juliania | Jun 12 2025 9:16 utc | 71 Sorry, the above was in answer to Posted by: juliania | Jun 12 2025 9:19 utc | 72 From what I can find, prior to the very late 1800’s, there were very few zionist jews. What caused the European jews to start going back to the Torah at that time”. Even in the lead up to WWII there still wasn’t a lot of Zionist jews. Posted by: juliania | Jun 12 2025 9:38 utc | 73 Tulsi Gabbard WW3 warning video is a must watch. Posted by: Suresh | Jun 12 2025 9:43 utc | 74 63. Posted by: Little WhiteCabbage | Jun 12 2025 9:47 utc | 75 The FEW Old Owners have decided to hand the disaster to the German peoples – willing scapegoats again! It seems. Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 12 2025 10:27 utc | 76 JohnGilberts @22: “This is class war. Fight Fascism. Power to the People. Resist don’t collaborate.” Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 12 2025 10:31 utc | 77
Posted by: too scents | Jun 12 2025 11:15 utc | 78 3 days of bullshit across the entire UK media regarding Rachel Reeves spending plans. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 12 2025 11:24 utc | 79 This is no class war. This is the old Big Finance faction of the imperial oligarchy manipulating lumpen proles into burning their own neighborhoods to spite Trump. Apparently some people’s TDS is too overpowering of their intellect for them to see that. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 12 2025 11:32 utc | 80 Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 12 2025 10:31 utc | 78 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Jun 12 2025 11:43 utc | 81 Ahmedabad plane crash: Air India’s Boeing 787 with 242 on board crashes minutes after takeoff from Ahmedabad airport https://indianexpress.com/article/india/ahmedabad-plane-crash-air-india-london-passengers-dead-toll-10062448/?ref=hometop_hp Posted by: Dogon Priest | Jun 12 2025 11:50 utc | 82 All US bases in the ME have been put on full alert – Al Udeid base in Qatar, in now in a full state of combat readiness – Trump has convened a security meeting with top military officials in the Whitehouse. Us tankers are airborne over Iraq. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 12 2025 12:07 utc | 83 Social media is rife with reports that Trump is in the early stages of dementia – he’s been spotted wearing a catheter under his trousers, a “Foley catheter. Urinary incontinence is a symptom of late stage Prefrontal Temporal Dementia.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 12 2025 12:08 utc | 84 juliania | Jun 12 2025 9:38 utc | 74
And this Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 12 2025 12:09 utc | 85 I watched an interview of the Australian reporter shot in the leg with a rubber bullet.She said there were small crowds and she had been walking with them, then in late afternoon, there was suddenly thousands on the streets. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 12 2025 12:17 utc | 86 https://x.com/Conflict_Radar/status/1932903731953033501 Posted by: Mary | Jun 12 2025 13:08 utc | 87 Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 11 2025 21:28 utc | 17 Posted by: Mary | Jun 12 2025 13:15 utc | 88 A accident or an attack? Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 12 2025 13:26 utc | 89 Shrill hysteria from the Magic Money Tree dembot @82 confirms my claim that the riots are manufactured. Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 12 2025 13:55 utc | 90 @ Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:58 utc | 59 Posted by: james | Jun 12 2025 14:00 utc | 91 Re: Riots or Insurrection ? Posted by: Exile | Jun 12 2025 14:04 utc | 92 https://www.newsweek.com/satellite-photo-shows-us-fighters-bombers-key-air-base-2083771 Posted by: Mary | Jun 12 2025 14:08 utc | 93 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 12 2025 12:09 utc | 86 Posted by: Deniz | Jun 12 2025 14:25 utc | 94 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 12 2025 12:09 utc | Posted by: Deniz | Jun 12 2025 14:33 utc | 95 India Boeing Dreamliner crash in Ahmedebad. Posted by: DunGroanin | Jun 12 2025 14:34 utc | 96 I’ll get the ball rolling. Tin foil hats at the ready. Posted by: too scents | Jun 12 2025 14:48 utc | 97 Deniz | Jun 12 2025 14:33 utc | 96 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 12 2025 15:28 utc | 98 Though Zionism may have arisen purely due to pogroms and such in eastern Europe / Ukraine, it is Britain that made it what it is today. From early on, the were big promoters of moving European jews to Palestine eve3n when it was part of the ottoman empire. Posted by: juliania | Jun 12 2025 15:32 utc | 99 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 12 2025 4:52 utc | 56 Posted by: ld | Jun 12 2025 15:43 utc | 100 |
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