Netanyahoo - "Hamas Is ISIS", "Let's Arm ISIS"
Use well known terrorists as bogeyman, then arm them.
I detect a well known pattern in this:
Israel PM Netanyahu says Hamas IS Isis ... - Daily Mail, Oct 9 2023
Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said late on Monday that atrocities committed by Hamas during its attack on Israel mirrored those carried out by the jihadist group Islamic State.
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'We have always known who Hamas is. Now the entire world knows. Hamas is ISIS. And we will defeat it just like the enlightened world defeated ISIS. This vile enemy wanted war and it will get war,' he said.
Israel opposition leader says Netanyahu arming 'equivalent of Isis' gangs in Gaza - MEE, Jun 5 2025
Israeli opposition leader Avigdor Lieberman has accused Israeli forces, under the approval of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, of arming “crime families” in Gaza.
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"Israel has provided assault rifles and light weapons to crime families in Gaza, on Netanyahu's orders," Lieberman, the head of the Yisrael Beiteinu party and a former finance minister and deputy prime minister, told Israeli public broadcaster Kan on Thursday.
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"In my opinion, it did not pass cabinet approval. The head of the Shin Bet knows, I'm not sure the chief of staff knows. We're talking about the equivalent of Isis in Gaza," he added, referencing the Islamic State group.
Posted by b on June 5, 2025 at 13:20 UTC | Permalink
Netanyahu denying that Israel, the United States and NATO are parts of the "enlightened world" that "defeated ISIS", since Israel, the United States and NATO were happy to arm and support ISIS to bring about regime change in Damascus and Baghdad. It took the arrival of Russia in Syria and Iran in Iraq to bring about the temporary defeat of ISIS although it's pretty obvious that the US has put ISIS on ice somewhere to be thawed out when the United States need an Islamist group to advance the US' foreign policy and the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda are intractable.
Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jun 5 2025 13:51 utc | 3
Well, that should work out well, said no one ever... Just more evidence that Nutanyahoo is insane.
Posted by: Matt | Jun 5 2025 14:59 utc | 4
Its likely that ISIS killers are mostly Israelis. Similar M.O. and vicious hatred of christian Arabs.
Posted by: Exile | Jun 5 2025 15:03 utc | 5
Bibi just missed an occasion to shut the fuck up, as ever.
Posted by: Savonarole | Jun 5 2025 15:10 utc | 6
Israel will always secretly support the most extremist Sunni groups in its neighborhood so that years down the line it will have a cause for expanding its territory to defend against said groups.
Posted by: S | Jun 5 2025 15:17 utc | 7
Posted by: Ghost Ship | Jun 5 2025 13:51 utc | 3
Yes indeed, it was the Russians, Iranians and Hezbollah that killed off ISIS in Syria and Iraq , all with minimal help from the US which was dragged reluctantly into making at most a show of being against them.
I can remember how Al Qaida was our enemy, then they morphed into worse called Al Nusra in Syria , and then Al Qaida were our friends and just “moderate” headchoppers. Then Al Nusra became the Free Syrian Army , also now mysteriously Moderate head-choppers hahah , and now with a beardscape, a name change from Golani, and a suit, we now have a statesman on the world stage shaking hands with Trump. This guy is more of a magician than Houdini ever was. Goes from being on a US Wanted poster with a price of tens of millions on his head to hobnobbing with Con der lyin and Trump on red carpets. Maybe leopards do change their spots, after all. /s
Posted by: Mustee | Jun 5 2025 15:23 utc | 8
If Hamas is equivalent to ISIS in Gaza, is there a Trump handshake moment coming up for Netanyahu shaking the hand of Al-Jolani's counterpart?
Posted by: Webej | Jun 5 2025 16:29 utc | 9
Hey, b, tell me all about the “Jewish Nobel” Awarded to Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla in 2022.
Posted by: maja | Jun 5 2025 16:33 utc | 10
Impudent reversal of the truth. ISIS leader al Julani is now "president" of Syria, feted by the world, and given economic privileges.
But it's the narrative that counts in western Clown World.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Jun 5 2025 16:51 utc | 11
Speaking of ISIS, if there were a real "War on Terrorism," America (and Israel) would have been deservedly bombed backed to the Stone Age and have their cities burned in massive Shock and Awe campaigns:
"Did the 'Islamic State' spring full-blown into spontaneous being as the fanatical scourge of the Middle East, or was it helped along by state sponsors? In ISIS IS US, a panel of cutting-edge researchers tell what ISIS really is, and what has been going on behind the scenes in Iraq, Syria and Libya. The conclusion: Like Iran-Contra, the ISIS death squads were set up by the US to crush a national insurgency."
from:
ISIS IS US: The Shocking Truth: Behind the Army of Terror
https://www.amazon.com/ISIS-US-Shocking-Behind-Terror/dp/1615771522
Posted by: ak74 | Jun 5 2025 16:58 utc | 13
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1930565006724116645
Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2
🚨🚨Explosive: Israel's ex-Defence Minister reveals Netanyahu is arming ISIS-affiliated criminals & drug dealers in Gaza
Those very gangs are the ones looting aid under full IDF protection & carry out surveillance & recon missions on behalf of the IDF
The gangs now established a concentration camp in Eastern Rafah (literally on the borders with Egypt) where they are trying to lure Gazans to move there using the very good the IDF made them loot
GHF, those gangs & the IDF are all part & parcel of Israel's ultimate goal of the genocide; concentrate Palestinians on Egypt's borders, destroy everything left of Gaza & mass expel Gazans into Egypt
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1930565248446074933
Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2
2\ Netanyahu's office didn't dispute or deny the fact that they are arming ISIS-affiliated criminals & gangs in Gaza
They doubled down & said "Israel is working to defeat Hamas in various ways"
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 5 2025 17:25 utc | 14
How could they win territory outside Palestine if Hamad is confined to Palestine?
Posted by: Zico the Musketeer | Jun 5 2025 17:44 utc | 15
If I remember correctly, didn't Israel provide assistance to ISIS by treating their wounded fighters in the Golan Heights area during the Syrian Civil War? It is also likely that they armed, trained and financed them (as many other unsavoury actors did) as befits a Western-conceived counter gang (ISIS, that is!). For those that claim that such an assertion is a fantastic conspiracy theory, they would do well to read Low Intensity Operations by British General Frank Kitson, published in 1971, during his counter-insurgency activities in the North of Ireland and also drawing upon his previous experience in Britain's brutal and savage repression in Malaya (1948 to 1960) and in Kenya (1952 to 1956). In that book he explicitly talks about the use of counter-gangs and this is essentially what ISIS is.
Regarding Hamas, there is a compelling evidence (proof) to state that Israeli Intelligence initially helped with its foundation as part of its campaign to undermine al-Fatah (PLO), which they ultimately succeeded in doing. This was openly stated by a member of the Israeli Government in the 1980s. But Palestinian Resistance simply morphed into a more militant formation truning Hamas into a creature that the Israelis can't control! We have we seen that before?
To repeat: Retired Israeli military officers have stated that Israel funded both Hamas and radical Imams/Mosques in Gaza. They wanted radical opposition, not moderates like Arafat or Abbas. They also wanted to divide and rule between the West Bank and Gaza. Once Hamas were elected, there were no more elections
It is now obvious what the plan for the endgame was. Perhaps the offshore gas field discovery accelerated their plans a bit. No way that wealth was going to be shared with anyone other than the (self)-chosen people.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jun 5 2025 20:05 utc | 17
Imagine Lieberman becoming the supposedly weepy moderate! But of course he is right in this: Israel did the same thing in Syria, for Israel-Sponsored Islamic State.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Jun 5 2025 20:36 utc | 18
Hamas is daesh because they were zionist made and the zionists make daesh. That is why both the zionists and hamas support the extermination of Syria by taqfiris.
Possibly PIJ are better IF they do not cozy up with zionist taqiris like hamas, else it is just PFLP-GC for Palestine politically.
As for avigdor, yep another western puppet from moldova who needs to rig elections to "win" (like trans cheats in women's sports) and suppress Gaugazia. Why they have not joined Transnistria and declared independence now, I have not idea.
Posted by: Sal | Jun 5 2025 21:53 utc | 19
From what I remember (but correct me), Hamas won elections and Fatah refused to co-operate with them. Instead Fatah started an insurgency in Gaza, was expelled by Hamas, and then Gaza was isolated by "Israel".
To my understanding Hamas is dedicated to expelling "Israel" from Palestine, it does not have an extremist ideology outside of that.
What Hamas (or more widely Palestinians) get up to in the region tends to be completely orientated to that end, by whatever route seems appropriate.
Daesh on the other hand are not defending a recognised nation or country but aim for a wider historically insinuated religious caliphate.
Zionists did not make Hamas, it is founded in a ground level resistance to occupation. To say Hamas (as we know it) would not exist without zionist activity to react against is not the same as implying zionists fabricated it.
As to the idea it was zionist created to undermine Fatah, firstly it has to be considered this might be psyop to discredit Hamas. Secondly Hamas did gain legitimate public support for its position. Thirdly Fatah are acting in a way at times little different to the "Israeli" funded gangs, meaning "Israel" did not need to set up opposition, as it occurred naturally as Fatah continuously conceded territory in the west bank. If the aim was to produce a divided, and so unable to negotiate, set up of west bank and Gaza, there you would have to look at Fatah's post election stance and actions to decide which had the backing of "Israel".
They could of course be backing/playing all sides, but I think in this case it is not likely given the cost of the current conflict. Only US has any certainty of being able to commit enough to reshape the middle-east. Some will say "Israel" runs the US also ...except in reality and by US law, it doesn't. Meaning, in law, saying "Israel made US" is nothing more than a poor excuse. US makes own decisions and is responsible for them.
I'm not going to try to enforce that reality, there is no need to, as US does not exist if otherwise.
Does US exist ?
As for the new gangs, to me they seem closer to Fatah insurrection or IS .
At least, how it seems from this corner of the woods.
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 5 2025 22:53 utc | 20
ISIS = HAMAS???
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Anyone who buys that nonsense is a moron!
I mean doesn't most know that ISIS = ISRAHELL??? Who helped to fund, arm and weaponize ISIS that killed 500,000 Syrian civilians.
Some of us have not forgotten
Posted by: Kay | Jun 6 2025 3:51 utc | 21
@Kay | Jun 6 2025 3:51 utc | 21
All terrorist organisations were supported by the anglosaxons and their zionist creation
https://swprs.org/why-israel-created-hamas/
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2025/06/04/its-all-a-scam-hamas-is-an-israeli-asset-being-a-jewish-controlled-terror-group-like-the-idf/
In a May 2019 interview with the Israeli news site Ynet, retired Israeli Major General Gershon Hacohen, a conservative aide to Benjamin Netanyahu, made the following statement: “The truth must be told: Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the two-state option, and that is why he has made Hamas his closest ally.
In the visible dimension, Hamas is an enemy; in the hidden dimension, it is an ally.”
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 6 2025 5:25 utc | 22
Only an extreme cynical sociopath like Satanyahu can openly proclaim that Hamas is ISIS with a straight face while secretly approving the funding of criminal factions in Gaza and everyone around him trying to convince him of the potential consequences for his government and for Israel generally. Satanyahu's decisions will ultimately spell doom for everyone and everything, not to mention Israel itself, around him.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Jun 6 2025 6:50 utc | 23
Actually, this has been going on for three thousand years:
https://www.amazon.com/Terrorism-Illuminati-Three-Thousand-Year-David-Livingstone/dp/1615773061/
Posted by: Taliwang | Jun 6 2025 12:55 utc | 24
Israeli security agencies thought long ago that islamist resistance to them would have less support internationally than secular resistance to them. So hamas was treated differently.
Just as neocolonialists in fukus countries believed secular nationalism in the region was more problematic for their corporations than islamist extremism.
Isis developed out of the deployment of salafist criminals into proxy armies for ksa and qatar regimes and their western patrons.
Israeli playbook
1. Pay local thugs to steal food trucks.
2. Blame Hamas and use that to justify your food starvation blockade.
3. Accuse anyone who questions you of 'blood libel' and repeat the Hamas lie.
The most moral army on earth strikes again.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 6 2025 19:39 utc | 26
@Christian J Chuba | Jun 6 2025 19:39 utc | 26
I am not contadicting anybody who points to Israeli wrongdoings.
However Hamas really has been problematic from the start. Spawning from the Muslim Brotherhood, that never was a genuine muslim, arab or Persian entity. But MB was the result of british imperial staretegy from the beginning and perpetuated by the US later.
Thierry Meyssan claimed that a breakout branch of Hamas was formed after the events in Syria where Hamas fought on the same side as the US. Amd that new branch would be more like you expect from a genuine freedom fighting group.
But I havent absorbed any confirmation of this from any other source.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 7 2025 6:16 utc | 27
If ISIS was defeated, as Netanyahu states, why in the Earth we have an ISIS linked government in Syria, blessed by the whole "West", doing an ongoing ethnic cleansing and full genocide there, who claims that the Golan Heights are Israeli territory and could not care less about IDF boming Syrian territory, military and scientific facilities?
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Jun 8 2025 12:19 utc | 28
What Israel in doing in Gaza is a genocide facilitated by Palantir´s IA tools of predictive crime and full surveillance....
Palantir is a CIA associated tech corporation head by Peter Thiel a major donor of Trump´s election campaign and the mentor of J.D.Vance...
Thus, they are offering you to choose either the woke version of general demential chaos, or the martial "order" of technofascism....
It is like chosing between a rock and a hard place....
Soon in your own country....
https://t.me/videoscobichosubtitulados/1467
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Jun 8 2025 12:29 utc | 29
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The all-inclusive Club Med of the Gaza Riviera will resemble the earliest days of Havana or Las Vegas as rival gangs vie for power.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Jun 5 2025 13:24 utc | 1