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June 25, 2025
Mark Sleboda – What the Hell Just Happened in the Middle East You May Ask?

Mark Sleboda is summarizing his view of the current episode in the war on Iran (slightly edited for clarity):

What the Hell Just Happened in the Middle East You May Ask?

My take –

The US/Israel realized:

  • that their regime change plans were not coming to fruition,
  • that the Iranian govt had more support and stronger foundations than they had believed,
  • that Israeli air defense was collapsing/exhausted and
  • that an attrition war of long range strike was going to go badly for Israel.
  • And Trump began to get freaked out over the rising price of oil with the Iranian threat of closing the strait of Hormuz.

So they wrapped it up, declared victory, and demanded a ceasefire.

Iran agreed because they too have been badly shaken through Israeli covert warfare and their own air defense all but collapsed.

The can will only be kicked down the road, and both sides will start rebuilding, and making preparations and plans for the next round, the next war. This was only a skirmish at the end of the day …

Iran, for surviving, maintaining a civilian nuclear enrichment program, and for the fact that it was the US/Israel that pushed for the "ceasefire", comes out slightly ahead on points.

The biggest loser – the collapse of the NNPT and international law.

Israel is already thinking about restarting the war.

But in the long term Sleboda's last point is the most important one. The Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty has kept a cap on the number of countries with nuclear weapons. The attack on Iran's civilian nuclear installation, and the lack of a serious IAEA's reaction to it, proves that the NNTP fails to provide the security it once had promised.

No only Iran will take conclusions from that.

Iran's parliament has, for good reasons, decided to stop all cooperation with the IAEA.

It seems to have support for this from Russia:

"IAEA Director-General Rafael Grossi could have provided a more precise report," [Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei] Lavrov said. "He is now insisting that Iran grant the agency immediate access to its nuclear facilities to verify the whereabouts of enriched materials and assess the situation on the ground. But where are the assurances that this information won’t be leaked? I see no such safeguards."

Lavrov also pointed to broader concerns about the neutrality of international institutions. "This ties into what I mentioned earlier: the West is exerting serious influence over the secretariats of international organizations. In some cases, it’s as though they have been effectively privatized," he remarked.

The West is demolishing the international order that had, for the last 80 years, provided some 'rules of the road' in global behavior. The U.S. is preventing the World Trade Organization from doing its job. The agreements that limited nuclear weapons were done away with one by one. The recent conflict blew up the NNPT and further diminished the UN Charter.

The consequences go far beyond the Middle East. They makes the world less peaceful.

Comments

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 25 2025 17:21 utc | 98
There are 15 successor states to the USSR. Ukraine possed the nukes. The Russian Federation negotiated with the Republic of Ukraine to gain possession. Sophistry and hypocrisy is the name.

Posted by: Wobblie | Jun 25 2025 21:58 utc | 201

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 25 2025 18:00 utc | 114
Norwegian – must see indeed! Thanks for the link.
Crooke looks exhausted. Been up too many nights following it all I expect. Lovely summary and impressive he can do that without notes even thought he looks out on his feet. I’m going to guess that that sideways look at the end was at his wife gesturing “You’ve done enough now. For heaven’s sake go and get some rest!”
Maybe that’s too vivid an imagination. Whatever, after the summary he gets into the heavy stuff. Draws the parallel between Spiderweb and the similar operation in Iran. Both operations not possible without Western assistance and both by the sound of it needing Western ISR, planning, and back-up. As Crooke says, we’re in a different type of war now and a war not as easy for the target countries to cope with. No doubt Gerasimov taking notes. Or maybe he made his notes a while back.
And then Crooke comes out with some really odd information. After all that happened, after a sneak operation that certainly involved several Western countries and that was openly designed to destroy Iran, the Iranians are still thinking of negotiating with the West!
Reminiscent of Syria. Assad rejected Russian and Iranian offers of help because he was hoping to reach an accommodation with the West. Then we smashed him. I say “We” because it wasn’t just the Turks sending in their headchoppers from Idlib. We, the US/UK, sent ours up in a coordinated move from Al Tanf. There are accounts of the Jihadis there being primed for the mission and they then moved up from the South.
What was Assad about! Did his intelligence not pick up what was being planned? What were the Iranians about, rejecting offers of both Russian and Chinese help? What are they about now, still thinking of cosying up to the West when the West has made it clear as could be that they want to destroy their country?
Seems easy as shelling peas, destroying countries in the ME. Just wait for them to offer their necks to the axe and then Bam! A quick strike and that’s another one down. But maybe the Iranians will grasp they’re in a real fight now and no more of the Pezeshkian nonsense.
Alternatively, and looking at the disastrous state of both American and European finances, they’re just temporising while they wait for us to go down.

Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 25 2025 21:58 utc | 202

Dan Kelly | Jun 25 2025 21:38 utc | 196
Really. There are some lithium treatments that have been tested with clear results for the maniac and depression sindrome.

Posted by: Esophagus | Jun 25 2025 21:59 utc | 203

@ jonboinAR
@ exile
Thanks for sharing.
If you got college-bound kids, studying in an ASEAN nation might lead to local employment and “their ticket out”. Later, maybe they can apply for visas for their parents (you).
Older? Scan residencies.io. Many on the list are or might yet become fully subordinate. It’s a gamble.
IMO time is running out, because of incipient tech, like terminators and some bioweapon ideas mentioned in the PNAC pdf ~30 years ago. Global security will likely be divided into two superblocs. At least for a few years. But, I’m not sure bipolarity or multipolarity is stable. If one bloc (particularly the aggressive side, though becoming less likely by the minute) achieves a significant lead over the other, they might try to “Operation Bibirosa” the other side.

Posted by: I forgot | Jun 25 2025 22:02 utc | 204

Baraka: The Tactical Failure of Israel/US Attacks On Iran is Leading Both To A Strategic Disaster
https://www.blackagendareport.com/tactical-failure-israels-attacks-iran-leading-both-strategic-disorder
“The US and Israel’s unchecked aggression has plunged the world into a lawless state of imperial violence – yet their latest attacks on Iran have only exposed the limits of colonial power. As Western leaders cling to delusions of dominance, Iran’s defiance reveals a shifting global order were imperial wars against imperialism itself…”
Perhaps because I am following the ‘progress’ of Bilderberger-Atlanticist-central-bankster PM Mark Carney’s initiatives linking Canada to the EU, I was particularly struck by a quote by Yanis Varoufakis:
“The EU is now a fully-fledged War Project – a project that will either land us in permanent war, or it will bankrupt us further, or probably both.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 25 2025 22:04 utc | 205

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 15:01 utc | 21
Still catching up, so maybe this was already raised.
My thoughts are such scanning at ports or major points of entry is unlikely to work effectively (unless the shipping person is brain dead). It’s not like a container full of assembled strike drones is shipped in as a whole, but component parts in different shipments, eventually then assembled and explosive components added in-country. I think all you’d likely catch is maybe any container itself who was modified internally to support launching, but my understanding is typically that too can and would be done in-country. It’s a dangerous world, anyone who can obtain the explosives, remote detonator components, can obtain a few commercial or ‘toy’ level drones, and be given some training\advice for assembly (‘don’t blow yourself up’), can become an assassin (at least toward a target that does not have an entire security bubble enveloping them – and even then…look at butler). Even if quickly traced by fragments of drone, and suspects rolled up in short order, mission still accomplished.
I often wondered why Luigi didn’t take this route, he seemed to have the technical mind for it, I suppose just not the connections for obtaining a suitable explosive component, or perhaps was worried about collateral death or an in-effective result.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:05 utc | 206

oldhippie@162
my departed husband was invited to russia early to late 90s. his field was quantum mechanics. he had a library of russian published papers, yes, also those of the french mathematicians that were also working there. the formulas were the thing, the led like cookie crumbs & before long the russian began to be entirely obvious.
re: the iranian defence minister seems completely comfortable sitting in the jet. perhaps he’ll fly one home.

Posted by: emersonreturn | Jun 25 2025 22:06 utc | 207

Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 25 2025 21:58 utc | 202
The exact same perspective can be applied to Russia and Ukraine war, it is not a special operation, when you have over a million Ukrainians slaughtered for no good reason that serves their own country, the longer the war drags on, the more dangerous it becomes. There’s pros and cons to both tactics (slow-mo vs nip it asap), but if you can secure the peace for the next 50years is better than for 5years.
I’m sure we’ll be saying this in 2030.

Posted by: RoB | Jun 25 2025 22:13 utc | 208

#205 corrected url:
The Tactical Failure of Israel/US Attacks on Iran is Leading Both To A Strategic Disaster
https://www.blackagendareport.com/tactical-failure-israelus-attacks-iran-leading-both-strategic-disaster
“The US and Israel’s unchecked aggression have plunged the world into a lawless state of imperial violence…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 25 2025 22:13 utc | 209

https://x.com/aaronjmate/status/1937947734423580849
Aaron Maté @aaronjmate
Not that we needed any more confirmation, but the Washington Post reports that the Israeli-US attack on Iran was decided months earlier and had nothing to do with nuclear weapons.
Senior Israeli officials say they “already decided by March” to attack Iran — the same month the US intel community assessed that Iran had no nuclear weapons program.
The reason “was that Iran would have rebuilt its air defenses by the latter half of the year”, which gave Israel “a unique opportunity to execute plans, carefully laid months and years in advance, to heavily damage a weakened Iran.” Just to underscore the point, the choice to attack “was not so much driven by new intelligence indicating an Iranian sprint for a nuclear weapon or any imminent threat to Israel.”
This was simply good old fashioned Israeli-US aggression in defense of Israeli-US hegemony. Rinse and repeat.
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Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 25 2025 22:14 utc | 210

If Iran already had nukes, there never would have been this war at all, is the thing.
Posted by: jonboinAR | Jun 25 2025 17:37 utc | 103
Yes there would.
Nukes are the excuse.
BRICS is the underlying reason.
The Empire is losing to China. China is already doing more transactions on its system than swift does.
They can’t allow that. They can’t allow the n/s corridor

Posted by: Mary | Jun 25 2025 22:15 utc | 211

To continue with my Big Picture Hypothesis, I want to expose what IMO is yet another deceit by Team Trump which was again articulated by Sergei Lavrov today during his visit to Turkmenistan:

Nevertheless, there are also positive trends, including realism and common sense, which the Trump administration declares as the basic principles of its foreign policy, as well as reliance on the national interests of the United States while declaring recognition of the national interests of other states. This is a very important statement that fundamentally distinguishes the Trump administration from the previous Biden administration, which was absorbed in its neoliberal hegemonic plans. [My Emphasis]

The recent behavior of Team Trump show the bolded traits to be deceits–lies–and in the latter case an outright violation of International and domestic law–Iran’s nuclear program is it its national interest and legal. IMO, the only difference between now and a year ago is dialog exists between Russia and the Outlaw US Empire.
On the non-targeting of Bushehr, that was publicly noted by Russia that both the Empire and Zionists had agreed NOT to target it. That leads to a WTF question since Bushehr is a very large part of Iran’s nuclear program–three power stations are to be built there. Such disregard IMO proves the fact that the nuclear program was a pretext for regime change.
IMO, it’s clear the Outlaw US Empire is trying hard to negate the power of BRICS without directly engaging in war with its three major members–Russia, China and India.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 22:16 utc | 212

@202,
Syria was very weak and deeply corrupted. The sanctions in the end took its tool on the population. That’s the biggest problem when you are a weak and resource barren country.
Think about it this way, there are a lot of Russians or Central Asian foreigners that are willing to commit sabotages for 2000-3000 bucks in Russia. In Iran, there were people which did it for even less than that. Both RU & Iran are much stronger and much more resource rich but they still have a lot of problems with these individuals. I don’t want to think how the situation was in Syria.
Hence the need to speed up the process for some alternative payment systems. It’s something that cannot wait for decades.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 25 2025 22:16 utc | 213

The fundamental key IMO is Russia, China, Iran have professors capable of not just understanding the math/physics of the process but are able to teach that extremely elevated level of math to others having the capability of advancing it.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 21:57 utc | 200
The fundamental Key – very much so.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 25 2025 22:23 utc | 214

@ Mary | Jun 25 2025 22:15 utc | 211
Even if “nukes was just an excuse”, jonbo’s point remains valid. No?

Posted by: I forgot | Jun 25 2025 22:28 utc | 215


NEW: About 22% of Iran’s ballistic missiles were intercepted by the Jordanian Air Force, 25% by the THAAD systems and U.S. ships in the Eastern Mediterranean and Persian Gulf, and the remaining 53% were intercepted by Israel’s own defensive systems above Israeli territory
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/21135

Doesn’t indicate a source for the claim, anyone know who it is that is referenced there claiming 100% effectiveness now, when it’s already well documented it wasn’t 100%? Perhaps the figure is meant to say “engagements” and not “intercepted”?

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:30 utc | 216

Talking about Iran in China looking into J-10 fighters, which recently trounced the NATO planes that India flies.
A good thread.
https://x.com/CarlZha/status/1937989893990547680
And Lord Bebo
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1937934235656196343

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 22:30 utc | 217

knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:05 utc | 206–
Thanks for your reply. Your note is the first to explain how to circumvent such a system, although IMO a good AI program could link together the components with their destinations which could then be investigated, although scanning would still need to be used to identify the components. Yes, shipping components via a smaller port-of-entry lacking such equipment would also be possible.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 22:31 utc | 218

Posted by: Esophagus | Jun 25 2025 21:59 utc | 203
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There is no treatment for adult gamma male syndrome or its origin, low self-esteem, along wit the need to be noticed.
So many “smart boys” suffer.
If only they suffered silently.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 22:32 utc | 219

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:30 utc | 216
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Can we say, “demilitarization”?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 22:33 utc | 220

Norwegian @ 157:
There’s nobody ranked below Sergeant in that list. Does the Zionist army of occupation have no corporals or privates?

Posted by: SLM | Jun 25 2025 22:38 utc | 221

The seizure of power in Iran failed because the Islamic State cells infiltrated and armed by the CIA, MI6 and Mossad were not in sufficient numbers to spread chaos in the capital, as happened in Gaddafi’s Libya. There was a strategic miscalculation by Israel.

Posted by: António Ferrão | Jun 25 2025 22:40 utc | 222

Golden Dome-Doom-Donald: “just as Hiroshima ended that war our bombing ended this one.”
What a callous, damning example to choose. This fool guy runs off at the mouth bragging about the wholesale slaughter of civilians. Disgusting.

Posted by: elmagnostic | Jun 25 2025 22:41 utc | 223

Peter AU1 | Jun 25 2025 22:23 utc | 214–
Thanks for your reply. More bilingual educational centers being built in EAEU nations. Latest Russian State Exams showed massive increase in math and natural sciences preferences versus humanities. The engineering school drive continues as do the major university complexes. Even closer interaction with China and ASEAN. What Lavrov said today in Turkmenistan fits in with what the Turkmen are aspiring for–peace and Eurasian security–and is very similar to Xi Jinping’s Global Security Initiative. Another key is getting as many into schools as possible since almost anyone could be the next Einstein as China’s experience confirms.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 22:47 utc | 224

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:30 utc | 216
I doubt those numbers. Obviously 100% of Iran’s missiles were not intercepted, and he clearly (thinks he) means that of the missiles that were intercepted Country A intercepted X, Country B intercepted Y, and Country C intercepted Z…% of the missiles.
Still, without a source, it reads like pure speculation and clickbait.
I’m sure there does exist a pretty accurate count for how many total Iranian missiles were launched (straight from the Iranians), and one assumes that on some slightly less accurate level there’s a count of how many Iranian missiles struck targets in Israel (although I seriously doubt it’s accurate when talking about high security/high value/military target hits which are censored), and each of the countries mentioned probably has an estimate for how many total objects their AD shot down over the course of ~12 days. So yeah, I guess to Middle East Spectator’s source: “Cool story, bro” – but he meant to write “OF the missiles that WERE shot down, here are the percentages shot down by whom….blah blah blah…”

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 25 2025 22:51 utc | 225

Latest Screed from Trump defending NYahoo. (/me facepalms)

NEW: In a very long post, President Trump glazes Netanyahu, says ‘the United States saved Israel, and now it is going to save Bibi Netanyahu.’ (pic of ts post)
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/21138

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:52 utc | 226

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 25 2025 22:51 utc | 225
I doubt them too, which is why asked the question I did. 😉 Though I think MES passing along not so much as “fact” but more a “look what they’re saying now..hahah” type thing, I was just curious if anyone had seen it elsewhere with a source attached (laughable one or not…basically I just wanted to know who was embarrassing themselves with 100% or 99% claims).

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:55 utc | 227

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:52 utc | 226
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~The cycle of life~
MoA MAGAs glaze Trump.
Trump glazes Bibi.
Children die.
Repeat.
I won’t live to see it, but the day America inevitably collapses will be the best day in centuries for billions of people.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 23:03 utc | 228

@217,
Those photos are old, they are from 2024.
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/iranian-air-force-commanders-close-inspection-of-j-10ce-at-airshow-china-2024-sparks-speculation/
It’s not just buying the planes. They need a lot of training on them, something which (sadly) Iran doesn’t have.
They should at least try to get some proper AD systems in the meantime which might not have such a large learning curve as fighting new jets.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 25 2025 23:03 utc | 229

embarrassing themselves with 100% or 99% claims).
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 25 2025 22:55 utc | 227
Exactly. Middle East Spectator has been a pretty objective and reliable source throughout the conflict, so that’s why I presumed that he (thinks he) means that NOT ALL (100%) were shot down, but that the information presented is merely OF THE ballistics that WERE ACTUALLY intercepted, here’s the supposed %s and by whom.
But for sure, if he’s falling for the notion that 99-100% of ALL Iranian missiles were intercepted, then LOL, maybe I overestimated his intelligence and underestimated his gullibility.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 25 2025 23:08 utc | 230

@ SLM | Jun 25 2025 22:38 utc | 221
Who needs “privates” when you can hire mercenaries for a dime a dozen?
…No, that’s not intended as a serious answer…unless it’s correct.

Posted by: I forgot | Jun 25 2025 23:09 utc | 231

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 25 2025 18:03 utc | 115
I just posted a gofundme update in the 6/22 Palestine thread. “We Feed Palestine” still operating as of 6/23.
This is something almost all can do.

Posted by: Mary | Jun 25 2025 23:17 utc | 232

Posted by: English Outsider | Jun 25 2025 21:58 utc | 202
Hey b, just thought I’d let you know English Outsider just posted.

Posted by: Patroklos | Jun 25 2025 23:17 utc | 233

We Feed Gaza! (2 days of near 100 degrees w/high humidity. Brain is mush)
https://www.gofundme.com/f/wefeedgaza

Posted by: Mary | Jun 25 2025 23:20 utc | 234

@ Patroklos | Jun 25 2025 23:17 utc | 233
lol … u teaser u…

Posted by: I forgot | Jun 25 2025 23:20 utc | 235

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 23:03 utc | 228
Same for european countries.

Posted by: Naive | Jun 25 2025 23:21 utc | 236

RE: The likelihood of “western” assistance (ISR, etc.) for Spiderweb and the Israeli actions in Iran, respectively, IMHO Spiderweb was the test run, in which the Americans, Brits and Israelis either assisted directly or took notes and the similar attacks in Iran were likely largely carried out by Israeli Mossad assets inside Iran with more limited ISR/technical assistance from the ‘collective waste’. In my mind the main differences are:
* Ukraine and Russia share a physical line of contact and, of course, have always shared a border. The NATO-Russia-Ukraine conflict has been ‘hot’ for several years now and given the common/similar culture, language and relative ease of moving Ukrainian assets into Russia, the well established, long-term presence of FUKUSNATO operatives and ‘FOBs’ in Ukraine, the extensive surveillance and feeling out of the situation, it was just easier for the NATO elements to guide and participate.
* Israel and Iran are separated by a few thousand km. They don’t share a border. The Mossad surely has far more operatives/collaborators inside Iran than the US or UK, let alone Ukraine (and I know nobody has said or implied the latter). So other than satellite imagery and the previously mentioned joint-ops/training from Spiderweb, you’d think that the Iranian operation was heavily dominated by Israel/Mossad. IMO, Mossad/IOF was much more actively involved in Spiderweb than they were in the attacks on Russia’s strategic bomber fleet.
I may be talking at myself here and not saying anything all that novel, but from Alistair Crooke’s video I got the impression he thinks that all parties were almost equally involved in the direct execution of both operations.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 25 2025 23:27 utc | 237

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 25 2025 23:27 utc | 237 – addendum
IMO, Mossad/IOF was much more actively involved in Spiderweb than they were in the attacks on Russia’s strategic bomber fleet – AND – that the ‘western’ operatives and ISR were much less actively involved in the similar attacks in Iran.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 25 2025 23:30 utc | 238

@Mary | Jun 25 2025 23:20 utc:
Well done. I donated, probably wouldn’t have thought of it w/o your advice.
High regards.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 25 2025 23:30 utc | 239

Posted by: Naive | Jun 25 2025 23:21 utc | 236
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Enlightenment individualism has been a tragedy.
In Africa, they have a term, Ubuntu, which means “humanity to others”.
Not every culture has it. Those cultures that do are the ones in ascension right now.
It’s similar to China and Russia’s conception of security. A country cannot be secure if its neighbors are not all secure. A sort of security for the group.
The West, a colonial enterprise, cares only about its consumptive interests and not the well-being of its neighbors, which ultimately leads to instability, which makes costs higher for the colonizer, and eventually drives the colonizer to the brink financially (we are there now).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 23:35 utc | 240

@ Patroklos | Jun 25 2025 23:17 utc | 233
your commentary on this casts a poor light on you and i find it odd too.. is this an ego thingy??

Posted by: james | Jun 25 2025 23:39 utc | 241

To be fair, humanity to others happens in the West in rural environments. It is completely absent in urban locales.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 23:41 utc | 242

It is completely absent in urban locales.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 23:41 utc | 242
That’s some SERIOUS hyperbole right there. Plus according to you, you don’t even live in the west, so I’m not sure you’re the best source for that kind of “information.” I can’t and wouldn’t deign to speak for AUS/NZ.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 25 2025 23:45 utc | 243

Iran= Russia or China regarding a new generation of AD systems?
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 25 2025 16:26 utc | 60
China.
The Thomas Keith xwitter account has covered this with fascinating insight.
Find him on xwitter or nitter.
Thomas Keith

srael entered the 12-day exchange convinced it could absorb costs; the ledger now shows a nation bleeding cash, talent, and confidence. Direct military outlays hit $5 B in the first week, then ballooned to $725 M every 24 hours, $593 M on offensive strikes that failed to silence Iran, $132 M on frantic mobilisation and missile intercepts that still let 400 warheads through. Iron Dome batteries alone inhaled $10 M to $200 M per day while Iranian salvos sailed past them and erased $1.47 B in civilian property, triggering 38 700 damage claims, 11 000 evacuations, and 30 condemned high-rise skeletons across Tel Aviv’s financial spine.
The Weizmann Institute, Israel’s prestige export, lies in shards, 45 labs gone and $500 M in biomedical IP incinerated, pulling decades of grant pipelines and pharma partnerships off the table overnight. Intel’s Kiryat Gat fabs froze mid-wafer, choking a supply chain that feeds 64 % of Israel’s exports and 1/5 of its GDP; the high-tech sector now runs on skeleton crews because 300 000 reservists were yanked from R&D floors and data centers to guard empty runways at Tel Nof. Commercial flights halted twice at Ben Gurion, insurers jacked premiums, and foreign airlines rerouted around a country that once sold itself as the region’s safe hub.
Capital is already in flight. More than 80 000 Israelis emigrated in 2024, the largest outflow since 1948, pushing the two-year total above 500 000 and forcing Netanyahu’s cabinet to slap a travel ban on Jewish dual nationals to stem the leak. Investor confidence cratered: venture funds paused term sheets, construction sites stand idle, and mega-projects wait on credit that no longer clears. The finance ministry, staring at a deficit set to shove public debt past 75 % of GDP, begged for an extra $857 M in defence cash while slicing $200 M from hospitals and schools.
Analysts peg Israel’s aggregate loss between $11.5 B and $17.8 B, up to 3.3 % of GDP, before counting long-tail hits from halted exports, cancelled IPOs, and sovereign-risk downgrades. Iran, still sitting on its uranium stockpile, spent a fraction of that yet forced the self-styled “Start-Up Nation” into a liquidity scramble, an insurance panic, and a brain-drain spiral. Tel Aviv promised deterrence; Tehran

https://nitter.net/iwasnevrhere_

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 25 2025 23:52 utc | 244

Wait until more and more countries, and then other organized groups, discover that to build a thermonuclear weapon does NOT require radioactive heavy elements. All the major powers, and probably all of the secondary ones, would already be aware of this. The resources needed are within the capabilities of a good sized “motorcycle club” to obtain and assemble. Chaos ahead!

Posted by: ramAustralia | Jun 25 2025 23:59 utc | 245

@ Melaleuca | Jun 25 2025 23:52 utc | 244
quite a depressing overview for the leaders of israel.. i wonder if they will change tactic going forward?? i doubt it..

Posted by: james | Jun 26 2025 0:02 utc | 246

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JvQlQH4Roj4
New Mayor to be wants to arrest Netanyahu. Jew York City ain’t what it used to be, apparently

Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 26 2025 0:06 utc | 247

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 25 2025 23:08 utc | 230
Ah yes the stat must be ‘of those that were intercepted’, ok that makes total sense and I probably should thought that was what was meant from the jump now that I think about it more. thx

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 26 2025 0:15 utc | 248

The need to inspect closely will slow the pace of trade significantly until high-tech scanners are built and widely distributed to speed the process. IMO, it’s surprising that method hasn’t been used for destabilizing attacks until now.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 15:01 utc | 21
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IMHO, the US Ports of Entry are well equipped. Cargo traffic gets scanned for various reasons, triggered by algorithms as well as random selection. I have no clue what other countries are doing but I have faith in CBP at the ports of entry. I spent 15 years in the cargo computer modernization side.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Jun 26 2025 0:19 utc | 249

Would the Chinese J-10 help Iran?
My impression was that the Pakistani fighters won due to a combination of better training than the Indians, and greater vision due to to the help of a Chinese EWACS plane. That wouldn’t come into play here.
Further, Israeli F-35 fighters are probably better than Indian Mirage fighters.

Posted by: Afro | Jun 26 2025 0:20 utc | 250

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 25 2025 23:52 utc | 244

Queue Lucy of SC, with a “must pass” bailout bill.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 26 2025 0:25 utc | 251

https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1937818075098738758
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Two critical developments today:
1 – Donald Trump admitted that “Israel was hit badly and suffered great damage” from Iran’s missile strikes—public recognition of the scale and impact Tehran inflicted.
2 – Iran’s parliament has officially shut the door on the IAEA. Director @rafaelmgrossi
is now pleading for access to assess nuclear site damage so he can report—presumably—to those still pretending diplomacy is alive
https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2025/06/25/3342306/serbia-halts-arms-exports-to-israel-amid-global-outcry-over-gaza-genocide
Serbia Halts Arms Exports to Israel amid Global Outcry over Gaza Genocide
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Serbia has suspended all weapons exports to the Israeli regime, marking a rare European stand against Tel Aviv’s continued campaign of massacre in Gaza, where tens of thousands of Palestinians, primarily women and children, have been slaughtered in months of US-backed aggression.
Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić announced the decision on Monday evening following a meeting with top military officials, stating that the Balkan state would no longer supply arms to the occupying Israeli regime.
The move came just one day after mass protests erupted in Belgrade, where demonstrators, led by the group “Support for the People of Palestine – Serbia,” demanded an immediate end to military cooperation with Israel.
The suspension of arms exports is a blow to the Zionist regime, which has relied heavily on Western and allied military support to carry out its campaign of annihilation against Gaza’s civilian population……

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 26 2025 0:27 utc | 252

karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 22:47 utc | 224
Education and infrastructure. Incredible important to an economy. Investment in those two always turns a profit in terms of increased economy. Long term investments before profit is realized.
In he previous thread (after it was dead) I put up some thoughts on Putins version of MAGA when he came to office in 1999.
Both places different – US requires free stem education to the highest level, slow all other course to continue as is. Political ‘science’, lawyers and all the useless eater stuff, let them pay for that education, but stem for free.
No they scream, that is communism…. McCarthyism and the collapse of the Soviet Union (Victory of capitalism over socialism) have destroyed the US.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 0:29 utc | 253

Deep pause…some are wondering on the fate of Khamenei as he has not been heard from since Monday, though it would also be normal for the leadership to stay quiet during assessment of the circumstance.
@249 Acco Hengst
Many drones were not imported to Iran but made in workshops there.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 26 2025 0:33 utc | 254

Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 0:29 utc | 253
Typos again
…allow all other courses to continue as is….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 0:34 utc | 255

As we see, the lies about Western AD performance continue to be told, while nothing new gets produced.
karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 17:03 utc | 79

Ain’t that striking?

Posted by: persiflo | Jun 26 2025 0:38 utc | 256

LOOK OUT!
OMFG! CTV sez IRGC commanders are fleeing Iran to hide in Canada

Posted by: drinky crow | Jun 26 2025 0:41 utc | 257

Posted by: Afro | Jun 26 2025 0:20 utc | 250
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It’s the J-10 + Chinese integrated ISR plus exceptional range with the Chinese air-to-air missiles (PL-15?). The Indians were shot down and never saw the shot coming.
And Pakistanis are much better fighters than Indians.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 26 2025 0:44 utc | 258

karlof1 @200: “IMO, there are very distinct similarities regarding plasma containment in a tokamak and in hypersonic aerodynamics.”
You see the connection too! There are possibilities in this that go far beyond a cool weapon. This has amazing potential for all of humanity.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 26 2025 0:47 utc | 259

Posted by: Wodger | Jun 26 2025 0:36 utc | 256
> How Not To Be Stupid – A Guide To Critical Thinking
> 4 minutes Basics for Dummies
Ok, got it. You have to be stupid in order not to be stupid. Makes perfect sense.
Or maybe not.

Posted by: hopehely | Jun 26 2025 0:51 utc | 260

Phil Giraldi
https://www.youtube.com/which?v=1IIVjDhFrwo
“Trump is completely in-line with what Israel wants to do.”
America get rid of this ZOG.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 26 2025 0:52 utc | 261

William Gruff | Jun 26 2025 0:47 utc | 260
I believe China is now building a fission fusion pilot plant or experimental plant to generate electricity. Read about it sometime ago and cant remember much detail, but is was a combo fission fusion setup and intended to generate usable electricity.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 0:53 utc | 262

“But in the long term Sleboda’s last point is the most important one. The Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty has kept a cap on the number of countries with nuclear weapons. The attack on Iran’s civilian nuclear installation, and the lack of a serious IAEA’s reaction to it, proves that the NNTP fails to provide the security it once had promised.”
And my guess is that this is exactly why Russia is not only fast tracking the manufacture of more Oreshniks, but will also focus on making more variations on all aspects of this technology including the power of such weapons.
Although nuclear is a potent weapon, most countries know that we are all doomed if the world gets into a slinging match i.e. MAD. And even if tactical nukes are used the toxicity and uncontrollable plumes of radiation directed by unstable weather patterns could be devastating and destructive to prime agricultural land; radiation that in many cases has a half-life of thousands of years.
So enter equally powerful Oreshniks that do not pollute with radiation.
Doesn’t this give a country like Russia and its potential allies in the Global South a usable, highly powerful and threatening military edge (as with hypersonics) that many other countries do not have?

Posted by: George | Jun 26 2025 0:55 utc | 263

@79
US DoD testers are forced to drink hopium flavor koolaid!
From Mk XIV torpedoes in early WW II to Missile Defense Agency tests of interceptors, there are never enough missiles to test, tests are effected by poor reliability including of range equipment, and a cancelled test is always assumed a pass……
Sensor integration, C and C suites receiving and coping with inputs…..
Example F-35 who knows if the ops testers could keep XX aircraft running through a scenario in a time limit…..?
All for profit.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 26 2025 0:56 utc | 264

The West, a colonial enterprise, cares only about its consumptive interests and not the well-being of its neighbors, which ultimately leads to instability, which makes costs higher for the colonizer, and eventually drives the colonizer to the brink financially (we are there now).
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 25 2025 23:35 utc | 240

Yep, and as a colonial enterprise, they loot, steal, lie, kill and genocide those opposing the lootings. Until the end of the Soviet Union they bought the votes of the workers so that they will vote accordingly, but since then they want their money back. Now individualism and alienation (through a merchant and spectacular society) are the keys to their power.
Today I heard commentators speaking about our “democracies” versus the terrorist State which is Iran not respecting the human rights. Go figure! It is already five centuries that the west does not respect the human rights. And they want to give lessons when a genocide is taking place in front of their eyes wide shut. They are lying like they breathe.

Posted by: Naive | Jun 26 2025 0:57 utc | 265

Re Crooke:
” I’m going to guess that that sideways look at the end was at his wife gesturing “You’ve done enough now. For heaven’s sake go and get some rest!””
I noticed that look, too, and thought someone was suggesting it was time to end, or dinner time!
But I want to give Nima credit for letting Crooke tell the whole story as he sees it, without interruption. He really covered an enormous amount of ground. What he said about the Supreme Leader’s speech was great to hear. And he respects the seriousness of Iran’s revolution and its aims. All in all, a must-listen.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 26 2025 0:57 utc | 266

Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 0:29 utc | 253–
Thanks for your reply. Pushing my grandkids hard on math and STEM, which is easy because they like both. So, I don’t have to stress too much that math is at the basis of all sciences–even biology.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2025 0:58 utc | 267

Phil Giraldi (corrected from above)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?=1IIVjDhFrwo
“Trump wants war.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 26 2025 0:58 utc | 268

The now overt debasing of international organizations is a sign of western decline, not of western strength.
Back in the day the USA could pretend that those organizations were truly international, even though they were designed from the start to serve Washington’s interests. The USA could exert its control over those organizations via a light touch, because the USA had so many other ways of influencing countries and/or subverting those countries to its will.
No longer. The natives have become very restless indeed, and in its panic Washington has dropped all pretense and is now using those international organizations as blatant extensions of the US State Department, rather than as the carefully cultivated shills that they had previously been.
Grossi at the IAEA is merely the latest. The OPCW is another. The World Bank and the IMF are further examples. None are truly “international” because they all answer only to the wishes of whomever sits their flabby ass in the Oval Office.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 26 2025 1:00 utc | 269

Posted by: Patroklos | Jun 25 2025 23:17 utc | 233
> Hey b, just thought I’d let you know English Outsider just posted.
I would say he is an English Insider. He knows too much.

Posted by: hopehely | Jun 26 2025 1:01 utc | 270

English 202,
“And then Crooke comes out with some really odd information. After all that happened, after a sneak operation that certainly involved several Western countries and that was openly designed to destroy Iran, the Iranians are still thinking of negotiating with the West!”
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That was not my impression. I thought that Crooke said that the country’s coming together behind the government meant that fewer people would be looking to try to align with the West or join the West. Yes, they would talk to the West, but IMO Crooke said they realized there was really nothing to say, because the West starts with a position of “No enrichment,” and that is totally unacceptable to Iran—-the government and the people.
IOW my take is that Crooke’s take is that the factions or elements of Iranian society that have desired to become part of the West or part of the WEst’s system have significantly shrunk as a result of the “12-Day War.” (Should we avoid this moniker, as it seems to a Trumpian label?)

Posted by: Jane | Jun 26 2025 1:04 utc | 271

@201 Wobblie “There are 15 successor states to the USSR.”
That is factually and legally untrue.
There was only one successor state to the USSR, and that was the Russian Federation.
There were 14 other states that did not want to join the Russian Federation, and so those states became independent states. In no way, shape or form were any of those other 14 states “successor states” to the USSR.
A successor state takes on all the debts, obligations and liabilities of the state it replaces.
That’s why the Russian Federation took over the USSR’s seat in the United Nations (all the other 14 states had to join the UN), that is why (e.g.) Ukraine came into being without any of the debts of the USSR nor did Ukraine inherit any of the treaty obligations entered into by that now-defunct USSR.
Ukraine began “de novo”, and therefore had to sign onto international treaties and international organizations.
You are wrong.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Jun 26 2025 1:07 utc | 272

Michael @ 210
“Not that we needed any more confirmation, but the Washington Post reports that the Israeli-US attack on Iran was decided months earlier and had nothing to do with nuclear weapons. ”
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Crooke also discusses this in the Dialogue Works podcast.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 26 2025 1:09 utc | 273

I would add one important point to Mark Sloboda’s list:
All this has only brought Russia, Iran, China, North Korea and even India closer together. I could add much of Islam, and support from some independent thinking South American countries, Africa and more. All of these are Global South countries that are clearly on the rise this century, and many are already part of BRICS, an organisation formed on the basis of trade, but also one that seeks to take the power away from US dollar dominance.
My guess here is that out of BRICS and the SCO (Shanghai Co-operation Organisation), we are likely to see some defence alignments being made either quietly behind the scenes, or made more formal and public at some point. They are all being stupidly pushed into the same corner which will simply bring them together out of common survival interests.
Unfortunately the 19% of the world’s population in the West represented by glove puppets like in NATO and G9 who continue to enforce imperialism and suppression of the Global South are not seeing what a huge mistake they are making.

Posted by: George | Jun 26 2025 1:12 utc | 274

Posted by: Wodger | Jun 26 2025 0:58 utc | 270
> Well yes my poor fellow. It is very hard to grasp for some people. Like yourself.
Well of course it is hard to grasp because I am stupid. But you seem so smart, you must feel so lonely…
> Maybe a walk in the sunshine is more your cup of tea?
Always. Sunshine on my shoulder makes me happy.
> Please take PeterAU1 with you. He is in desperate need of a break.
I would but we live too far away from each other.
But I can take you instead. Do you like an ice cream?

Posted by: hopehely | Jun 26 2025 1:12 utc | 275

karlof1 | Jun 26 2025 0:58 utc | 269
Cant rember what grade in primary school I took and interest in science. was never interested in academic type things, like maths communication skills ect but my elies memory was plugging I think a nail and a bit of copper in a lemon then connecting them to a 1.5volt light globe.
Year seven was the first time I topped the class in science so was disqualified for cheating as I was the dumb kid in class.
That pattern continued through to year ten. No math required to that point in the science in our public education system. I never wrote anything down but soaked it all up.
It was some time into my working life I found I needed math equations and got books from the library. I would spend the time and learn the equation I needed, use it, and two weeks later I would not be able to do it again. That occurred a number of times. I have something akin to dyslexia with math equations so envey those who can continue through to its highest extent.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 1:16 utc | 276

A strategic summary/overview , all in quotes, from:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/october7_23?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
Behind the lines
The War on the Iranian Front Halts: Between the Expected and the Unexpected
Mohammed Subaih,
Researcher in Strategic and Defense Studies.
In a remarkable statement, US President Donald Trump announced the end of the war on Iran. This was a pivotal, even shocking, moment on the regional and international scene; a moment that requires us to conduct a comprehensive strategic review of the course of the last round of the war, analyze what both sides achieved—and what they did not achieve—and anticipate the outcomes of this military phase of the conflict.
🔸First: A war that broke the rules
. From the outbreak of this war, it became clear that it was unlike any previous war. The war, which has been ongoing since October 7, broke traditional and unconventional rules, disrupted the international and regional order, and even overturned many military axioms. However, the one constant—on which leading military theorists agree—is that the course and outcomes of war cannot be predicted. It is a constantly changing, dynamic entity.
This constant was exceptionally evident in this round; it was never expected that the war would stop at this point. Neither the American nor the Zionist sides achieved the pinnacle of their objectives, neither militarily nor politically.
As we noted in our previous assessment, the Zionist entity’s strategic situation was and remains fragile and weak, giving Iran ample room to bypass the option of surrender, avoid being dragged into a comprehensive war, and instead push toward a scenario of prolonged attrition.
But the most striking surprise is that the entity’s strategic position was even weaker than we had expected, as it accepted the gains it had achieved—which were not clear in reality—and which barely exceeded the enthusiastic speeches of Netanyahu and Trump.
🔸Second: The American strike… superficial losses, not strategic ones.
The strike targeting Iran’s nuclear facilities, despite its military scale and the accompanying media hype, did not achieve its declared strategic objective: disrupting or ending the Iranian nuclear program. From the outset, Iran was aware that a strike was coming and took the necessary preemptive measures, most notably removing radioactive materials from the targeted sites. These materials, in their original state, could be used to manufacture nuclear weapons within weeks, or dirty bombs even sooner.
What was actually destroyed was limited to infrastructure and buildings, which could be rebuilt within a few years—that is, if Iran had not already established covert alternatives in undeclared locations.
If the strike’s objective was to deprive Iran of nuclear know-how, it undoubtedly failed miserably, as this know-how has become part of the state’s institutional and scientific infrastructure and cannot be targeted or destroyed by bombs. Iran today possesses the skills, expertise, and capabilities to restart any facility and even develop its program more rapidly than ever before.
🔸 Third: The Zionist entity is in a strategic predicament.
The Zionist entity entered this round at its lowest strategic point since its founding. Despite unlimited American support and full air and intelligence cover, Israel remained vulnerable to precision missile strikes. Within a few days, the skies over Tel Aviv were transformed into a missile corridor, while air defense systems—despite their multiplicity and overlap—were unable to secure Israel’s interior.
Israel emerged as a fragile state, unable to protect itself, neither to its domestic audience nor to the international community. This exposure coincided with a complete inability to achieve its central war objectives, especially on the Gaza front. Despite the occupation government’s attempts to impose new facts on the ground to improve its strategic security environment, the results demonstrate their inability to achieve this, and Netanyahu’s daydreams of shaping a new Middle East have gone up in smoke.
Iran still maintains its nuclear project, even if some of its facilities have been disabled. Hezbollah is present and rebuilding its forces despite the blows it has suffered. Hamas is steadfast and fighting fiercely, while the Ansar Allah in Yemen continue to launch their ballistic missiles daily toward the heart of the entity and its vital interests.
Internally, the state of panic has reached its peak. Waves of reverse migration are accelerating, and the conviction has deepened among the occupiers that this land is no longer safe, and that the “State of Israel” is no longer capable of protecting them.
🔸 Fourth: Why did they stop then?
It seems that all parties realized that the continuation of this round of war would lead to a strategic catastrophe, especially for the Zionist entity. Continuing the confrontation for additional weeks would have accelerated the collapse of the Israeli home front, given the clear inability to achieve a decisive victory and the continued attrition on several fronts. This is where talks of nuclear attacks began to loom.
As for Iran, despite the painful blows it received, especially among its first-class military leadership, it demonstrated its ability to absorb the attack and mount an appropriate response at the appropriate time. Its response was measured, yet symbolically high, indicating its ability to mount a painful response and its readiness to wage a long war if imposed upon it.
Tehran sent a clear concluding message: “We have the capability, and we know how to time it.” This message has certainly reached not only the entity, but also all those concerned with this war in the region and beyond.
🔸 Fifth: Iran as a Regional Power After the War
If the war does indeed stop at this point, Iran emerges from it as a strategic victor, with more than one clear indicator:
• First : According to information from the Iranian Atomic Energy Agency, Tehran has preserved its nuclear program, its infrastructure, and its knowledge against military strikes, despite the bombing that targeted it from all sides.
• Second : It has demonstrated its ability to deter and deliver precise strikes deep into Zionist territory, a precedent that will be credited to it and redefine the rules of engagement in the region.
• Third : It has emerged from the round as a regional power to be reckoned with, not only by the Zionist entity, but also by the Arab states that have normalized relations with it, or considered doing so to avoid an imagined Iranian threat.
Conversely, the Zionist entity emerges from this round weaker and more isolated than ever. It has lost what remains of its image as a deterrent force capable of imposing new regional realities, and it has been unable to withstand Iran for more than two weeks of aerial combat and mutual bombardment. Today, he is forced to rethink his regional strategies and the image of the “protecting power” he has tried to market to his allies, especially those who have bet on him to eliminate Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran.
🔸 Sixth: The Gaza Front… The Moral and Political Test
In analyzing the outcomes of the Iranian-Zionist round, one cannot ignore the front that was the initial spark for all that happened: the Gaza front . Politically and morally, Iran is supposed to link its decision to cease confrontation with the entity to an end to its aggression against the Gaza Strip, especially in light of the escalating massacres, the mounting pressure on civilians, and the unprecedented levels of famine and exhaustion. Any Iranian decision to de-escalate its front separately from the Gaza front—which represents the heart of the clash and its initial spark—will be widely interpreted as a move by which individual interests prevail over collective responsibility , especially given that Iran is the largest supporter and most prominent partner of the Palestinian resistance, both politically and militarily.
While political realism may theoretically justify any country’s decisions based on its national security considerations, the fact remains that any Iranian abandonment of its commitments to Gaza now would be a resounding moral downfall for its Islamic resistance project and a direct blow to its credibility before the peoples of the region and the free people of the world.
Continued support for Gaza is not only a fulfillment of our partnerships and the shared destiny of the resistance, but it is also a true test of the legitimacy of the Islamic discourse that Tehran has embraced for decades. Iran, which has long championed the oppressed and made Palestine the central issue, will face a defining moment: either it asserts its leadership of this resistance camp and prioritizes principles over opportunism, or it retreats and puts the legacy of the axis of resistance on the line, facing significant, meaningful, and serious questions.
We hope—with all political and moral awareness—that this round will not be a moment of moral collapse , but rather an opportunity to strengthen Iran’s principled position and consolidate its leadership in the resistance camp, in the face of a crisis-ridden Zionist project that has lost its moral and political compass.
🔸 Seventh: The Arabs and the Tragedy of the Lack of a Project
Amid these major strategic transformations, the Arab scene appears to be one of the most dire and enduring tragedies. The region is seething with conflicts and competing projects, from an Iranian project possessing a strategic vision and depth, to a Turkish project attempting to regain its influence, while a Zionist project continues its aggression and attempts to dominate the region through blood and sword. Unfortunately, the Arabs are completely outside the equation.
There is no unified Arab project, no unified leadership, and not even a truly independent political will. Some regimes have bet on a crumbling entity, deludedly believing it would be a “guarantor of their security” and a source of protection from their regional adversaries. Instead, they are unable to protect themselves for two weeks from successive missile strikes, and are unable to restore their image domestically or internationally.
However, responsibility does not fall solely on the regimes. The people, as well as the societal and political elites, are fully aware of the gravity of this situation and that continuing on this absurd and disastrous path is a long-term political and civilizational suicide.
The decision and keys to change lie in the hands of the people . We cannot rely on external forces or beholden regimes to shape a future for our peoples. Either these peoples rise up to reshape their independent and integrated civilizational project, or they will be left easy prey to other projects, consumed, exploited, and depleted, without a say in the future of the region or the world.
🔸 In conclusion: The illusion of hegemony and the new Middle East.
Trump’s announcement of a ceasefire, while seemingly an end to a bloody round of fighting, does nothing to change the core reality: the region stands on the cusp of major strategic transformations and a new phase of power balances, in which there will be no place for the weak, the subservient, or those who have mortgaged their fate to the projects of others.
Iran—through its accumulated knowledge, resilience, and thoughtful management of the conflict—has consolidated its position as a major regional actor that cannot be bypassed or imposed upon. Meanwhile, the Zionist entity has emerged from this round in a defensive and troubled position, having lost much of its prestige and deterrence, and has become, even in the eyes of its supporters, a burden rather than a reliable tool for managing their interests.
In this context, the peoples of the region are called upon today to redefine their priorities and shatter the illusion of “Western hegemony” and the “new Middle East” project, which was promoted as a solution, only to generate more chaos, dependency, and division. There is no salvation for this nation except through an independent project that expresses its interests, guarantees its security, and is based on the unity and free will of its peoples.
As for the Gaza front, the cradle of all events, it will remain the open wound and the compass that reveals positions. It is expected that this Iranian-Zionist round will cast a heavy shadow over the course of the war there, and may accelerate—due to mutual exhaustion—the ripening of conditions for halting the Zionist aggression. However, the price we are paying is heavy and continues. The only bet will remain on the steadfastness and perseverance of the Palestinian people, and the strength and wisdom of their resistance.
This war has exposed everyone, confronted each party with its true nature, and put every project to the test of its value.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 26 2025 1:17 utc | 277

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 0:53 utc | 263
From what I have read about China and Fusion research is that several months ago they were able to demonstrate in the laboratory that they could have a yield of 6 times as much energy as used to bring about the reaction that produces it. This if true, it is a phenomenal break through in international research.
My view is that China will be the first to be using Fusion on a large scale to power its electricity needs.

Posted by: George | Jun 26 2025 1:21 utc | 278

William Gruff | Jun 26 2025 0:47 utc | 260–
Thanks for your reply. I might be incapable of doing the equations, but I do understand the concepts and how the systems are supposed to function.
Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 0:53 utc | 263–
China is very ambitious regarding fusion and has three tokomaks at various stages of construction along with at least one entrepreneurial company aiming at being China’s first private commercial fusion power plant. China calls its plants “artificial suns” because that’s what they are. The acronym EAST, experimental advanced superconducting tokamak, denotes China’s main research center. Here’s an article from earlier this year.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2025 1:25 utc | 279

My view is that China will be the first to be using Fusion on a large scale to power its electricity needs.
Posted by: George | Jun 26 2025 1:21 utc | 282
I think so too. In size, they have the STEM and the economic resources to achieve it. They are breaking barriers in many small areas so they are not limited by the boundary of the known.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 1:25 utc | 280

Trump Says Netanyahu’s Corruption Trial Should Be ‘Canceled’
https://
http://www.rt.com/news/620549-trump-defends-bibi-netanyahu/
“US President Donald Trump has called for an end to the conspiracy trial of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu days after Israel and Iran reached a ceasefire.
Trump showered his Middle East ally with praise on his Truth Social platform on Wednesday evening.
President Netanyahu was a WARRIOR like perhaps no other Warrior in the history of Israel,’ he wrote. ‘Such a WITCH HUNT, for a man who has given so much is unthinkable to me,’ the president wrote.
‘Bibi Netanyahu’s trial should be CANCELED IMMEDIATELY, or a pardon given to a Great Hero who has done so much for the State…”
Are we sure he only drinks diet coke?

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 26 2025 1:30 utc | 281

Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 1:16 utc | 280–
You always struck me as a hands-on outside the classroom learner.
It seems I was mistaken in my assessment from late last year based on your goodbye note and subsequent absence.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 26 2025 1:32 utc | 282

Bibi Netanyahu’s trial should be CANCELED IMMEDIATELY, or a pardon given to a Great Hero who has done so much for the State…”
Are we sure he only drinks diet coke?
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 26 2025 1:30 utc | 287
I’ve read here at MoA that bibi needs the wars not to get thrown into jail .
An off ramp makes sense

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 26 2025 1:34 utc | 283

Thierry Meyssan’s commentary on the empire’s recent aggressive act of war on Persia revealed something I did not know before:

“…while we in the West are unaware of it, Iran was the victim, in 1917-1919, of the largest genocide of the First World War [1]. 6 to 8 million people died of starvation out of a population of 18 to 20 million, or between a quarter and a third of Iranians. Iran, although neutral, was crushed by the British armies, against a backdrop of rivalry with the Bolsheviks and the Ottomans. This horror has left a traumatic memory that is still very present in Iran [2]. There is no doubt for an Iranian that the United Kingdom is his country’s primary enemy.”

The article is short and worth reading in its entirety imo.
~~
Israel – Iran: The Confrontation
by Thierry Meyssan

The confrontation between Israel and Iran does not at all correspond to the image presented by the media. Its roots lie in a period before the Islamic Republic and has no connection with the construction of a nuclear bomb. outbreak today is intended to conceal the misdeeds of the Argentinian Rafael Grossi, director of the International Atomic Energy Agency.
24 JUNE 2025

https://www.voltairenet.org/article222523.ht

Posted by: suzan | Jun 26 2025 1:34 utc | 284

The fundamental key IMO is Russia, China, Iran have professors capable of not just understanding the math/physics of the process but are able to teach that extremely elevated level of math to others having the capability of advancing it.
Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 25 2025 21:57 utc | 200
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My Moscow pen pal’s daughter just started Russian first grade this past September. Yet already since before that she has been doing—for fun—some kind of mental chess problem solving game and I think also mental math or some such. Working out math problems in your head.
My second cousin’s daughter, half Bulgarian, attends a good high school in a town outside Boston but also does some special advanced “Russian” math training—some kind of online course—in addition to her regular math. There are resources out there for young people who have the brains and the motivation and who love to learn and challenge themselves and whose parents encourage them. It’s a shame that so many American adolescents are not turned on by intellectual challenges and neither are the parents. Hardly ever read a book. There is a lot of peer pressure not to be a “nerd.”

Posted by: Jane | Jun 26 2025 1:37 utc | 285

Thank Karl have opened the link and will read it shortly.
….
Re my last reply to George.
I have run into so many people with higher education, in all fields that are locked within what they have been taught. Pressure to conform? learn by rote?
I dont think much of those creatures. Using education as a shield from the unknown rather than using it as a platform to reach into the unknown.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 1:38 utc | 286

karlof1 | Jun 26 2025 1:32 utc | 288
Yeah. Got to where I couldn’t get up one day and was just laying there thirsty as f..k. Will have to send you an email. I shouldn’t be here but as I am, I have to fill in time somehow.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 1:44 utc | 287

US Intel: Strikes Did Not Destroy Nuke Facilities
There’s a Coalition of the Quibblers arising. A unexpected alliance of mockingbirds, controlled alt media, and genuine independent analysts…..
TrumpTeamTrix didn’t *destroy* Iran’s nuclear facilities.
Doubt is now endemic across the information stratosphere.
And the intel-mockingbird complex only has itself to blame.
As the unwashed became familiar with the decades of lies and deceits,
starting in popular memory with JRF and extending to WMD Iraq Afghanistan, right up to the very recent con-vax19, many people instinctively don’t trust or believe what they are force fed.
And then there’s the PDJT-Barnum in the WH.
The Greatest (obvious) Liar in Chief of all them all.
The doubt, of course, is fostered.. -weaponised – by the zioborg.
They know they’ll want another crack at Iran.
When Iran picks itself back off the ropes, the zioborg lobby has a platform to springboard from.
Trump will be gone in 3-2-1, the zioborg can wait till late in his term… or even remove him before then … impeach or decease…
The zioborg plays a long long – decades- centuries long game. They can wait another stopclock in play, before making another move.
And the doubt that Trump did anything effect against Iran is embedded now

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 26 2025 1:45 utc | 288

BREAKING: ‘New countries will soon join the Abraham Accords, and it will be made official in a major announcement’, according to U.S. Envoy Steve Witkoff
Sources point towards the Syrian regime of Ahmad Al-Sharaa (Al-Jolani) being the most likely candidate, alongside Saudi Arabia.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/21142

Witkoff: “New countries are joining the Abraham Accords. We will have a big announcement soon. We also hope that countries will enter the process of normalizing relations with Israel.”
“What we heard from our sources for now but can change any minute until finalising announcement: Saudi Arabia will join Abraham Accords and terrorist Julani will normalise relation of Syria with Israel and will recognise Israel occupation over Golan Heights. They are still discussing but this is highly likely what will happen.”
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43983

“Tonight Iran shoots down Two Israeli drone over Iraq near Iranian border. Also air defense activated engaging drones over Caspian sea coming from Azerbaijan” (video)
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43980
Another video of the shoot down:
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43981

“So far, 17 heavy military transport aircraft have landed in Israel from European countries and US to arm Israel.
Some countries are hiding their shipment of arms to Israel using Eastern European countries as a hub to send indirectly. Very same method was used to arm ISIS pre-2015. We will write about them later.”
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/43982
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The rearming starts.

Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 26 2025 1:50 utc | 289

Melaleuca | Jun 26 2025 1:45 utc | 295
Replace Russiagate with Fordowgate for this term I guess.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 1:51 utc | 290

Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 1:51 utc | 299
Yeah.
Trump bombs Iran to pacify the zioborg , who are both within his teamtrix, and his opposition.
He thought they’d give him a peace prize… something Obama has ….
But zioborg is never satiated.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 26 2025 1:54 utc | 291

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 1:25 utc | 284
I correct what I said since I had only a vague memory of the article but the 6 times was about the record temperature. ie 6 times the heat of the Sun which is a record, and it was also a record for the duration of the fusion reaction. (Second reference below).
Increased energy in the ration of 5:1 article here:
China is building a new fusion reactor by 2027 that aims to be able to produce 5 times the energy output compared to input. This would be a world breakthrough of huge proportion if it succeeds. If this happens it is literally the door being opened for the new energy source being used far more sooner.
Ref:https://www.sustainability-times.com/energy/chinas-fusion-breakthrough-by-2027-exposes-u-s-lag-as-best-reactor-aims-for-5x-output-with-unmatched-construction-speed/
The other article about 6 times heat of the Sun: https://scienceillustrated.com/technology/artificial-sun-on-earth-sets-insane-world-record-six-times-hotter-than-the-sun-for-17-minutes

Posted by: George | Jun 26 2025 1:57 utc | 292

Posted by: Dan Kelly | Jun 25 2025 21:38 utc | 196
Strictly OT but not in a global holistic sense, if “Russia has found itself in a full-fledged and difficult war. Not only with Ukraine—as a regime and not with the people (hence the demand for political denazification put forward initially), but also with the “collective West;” that is, in fact, with the NATO bloc…” that is because the latter were the a’ready — and not with any benevolent intentions.

Posted by: Laurence | Jun 26 2025 2:04 utc | 293

For far too long now imperialist adventures have had all the novelty and shock value of a snyderesque formulaic hollywood script “Save the Woke” where amerika races in and does something it proclaims is of great service to women, gays ‘n anyone else they have deemed woke, however underneath that thin patina of pretense, the empire rapes, murders and above all steal. How it steals any resource that isn’t firmly nailed down, where nailed down means being owned by a well regarded western conglomerate, is purloined in the name of “amerika’s interests”.
That worked for a time but just like the equally zionist controlled hollywood plots imperial strategies seek to emulate, the plots become too familiar revealing not only the connection between events the empire claimed were totally disparate – nothing to do with each other, it also reveals the paucity of imperial intelligence. This means that in addition to the offense created for people who support what they consider to be normal decent human behaviour, even those amerikans & like-minded sycophants overseas become negative & ‘fidgety’ because there is no originality in what they see as their diversion – watching unfortunate people of so-called others has become mundane, boring in fact.
We all know the signs of contemporary imperial efforts to hang on to what they had: surprise attacks during diplomatic negotiations, great effort expended to placate zionism & zionists, initially either flat denials or over-the-top boasting of responsibility for the event. This bits is telegraphed word for word, with stock sick phraseology incessantly and ubiquitously by corporate media until the entire western population sees buildings, ‘adversaries’ and their children exploding in glorious colour even when we close our eyes. “Ah the horror, the horror” we are meant to think as many of us recoil from the empire’s inhumanity, whilst other better indoctrinated citizens cry “the animals, they don’t deserve to live kill ’em all”. The latter types are inevitably disappointed when the raping & killing slows to be replaced by the inevitable enslavement of those humans who many required slaughtered, because the empire wants them to feel insult added to injury by making locals participate in their debasement by requiring locals to recover then pass over to amerika that which amerika wishes to steal.
Right now is an incredibly dangerous time for Iran and Iranians. I certainly hope it continues as Sayed Marandi said it had begun, with nearly all Iranians determined that they themselves can sort out any problems in their state.
I doubt that will continue as Iran prides itself on being a fair and just society, yet the nature of the empire requires that any state the empire has subjected to the hairy eyeball not permit foreign funded entities be permitted to led weak-minded, credulous and greedy humans astray.
Masoud Pezeshkian is all of those things as he listens to and believes whatever nonsense amerikan diplomats, ngo’s and media tell him. He doesn’t appear stupid as prior to politics Pezeshkian worked as a university academic, however knowledge and common sense are known to be able to appear in humans on their own, one without the other and it seems likely that he is a prime example of being able to accumulate great knowledge without the least implication of the commonsense humans need to be able to utilise their knowledge.
A great deal depends on the construction of Iran’s Guardian Council this to quote Iranica Online is:

“a powerful 12-member council with vast legislative and executive jurisdictions that forms a cornerstone of the Islamic Republic’s Constitution (q.v.). According to Art. 91 of the Constitution, it consists of twelve members, six of whom are theologians (foqahā) and six are jurists (ḥoquqdān) versed in different legal branches. The former are appointed by the “supreme leader,” the latter are elected by parliament (Majles) from among the “Muslim jurists” introduced by the head of the judicial system; the head of the judicial system is also appointed by the leader. The duration of their term in office is six years (Art. 92 of the Constitution). The scope of the Guardian Council’s various powers, as set out in the Constitution, will be discussed in four sections: legislative jurisdiction, the interpretation of the constitution, supervision of elections, and other prerogatives.

From what I can see the Guardian Council who approved both Pezeshkian’s candidacy as Prez and his election, tends to follow the popular will as much as possible. eg they approved Mahmoud Ahmadinejad twice; a bloke whose policies Iran could handle a big shot of right now because they run counter to Pezeshkian’s desire to kiss and make up with amerika.
There is no chance of another radical islamist or radical islamist policies right now, but that does not mean the Council of Guardians who will make the final decision on whether Iran’s legislation to leave the NPT and the spying of the IAEA behind them becomes reality will aquiesse to amerika & the zionists. AFAIK the Guardian Council has the power to overrule the Supreme Leader making it the peak political and social body in Iran because the Guardian Council selects the members of the ‘Assembly of Experts’ who oversee and select the Supreme Leader.
In other words Iran’s leaders are subjected to a lot more supervision and guidance than executive government in western states who (as in the case of england) is overseen by the unelected head of state or (in the case of amerika) is overseen by a peak judicial body eg the Supreme Court.
In theory it could be possible for an elected prez to somehow stack the Guardian Council or Assembly of experts, except the staggered nature of election and the lengthy periods they serve (8 year terms between election) makes the capture of these bodies by a particular mode of thinking far more difficult than somewhere such as amerika or england.
If the Guardian Council observes that Iranians’ attitude towards rapprochement with the west has changed for the worse since the attacks, then it is most unlikely they will vote down the bill requiring Iran to prohibit IAEA spying. Even continued negotiating with amerika could be prohibited if Parliament requests it.
Working with the Assembly of Experts, the Guardian Council could in theory overrule the fatwa on nukes, however that is not likely as it would involve so many people there would be no secrecy.
That of itself would be more likely to be instigated by the Assembly of Experts who number 12 and are made up equally of experts in Islamic law and experts in secular laws.
Of course they may not have to, the Supreme leader could decide to revoke the fatwa himself. The assembly of experts would know but all the rest would be strictly need to know.
This structure may seem complicated to us but it is surprisingly agile as we observed during the 12 days of zionist attempts to murder Iranians.
I hope these adjudicators will come to a decision that not only preserves Iranian independence and sovereignty but does so well into the future.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Jun 26 2025 2:04 utc | 294

Australia to deploy 100 soldiers to help Ukraine in its bloody war against Russian aggression
Why am I only seeing this in the Daily Fail???
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14846419/Russia-Ukraine-Australia-Richard-Marles.html

Australia will deploy up to 100 soldiers and a military aircraft to Europe in an effort to support Ukraine in its ongoing war with Russia. 
Defence Minister Richard Marles announced the contributions at the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) leaders summit in the Netherlands on Wednesday. 
At the request of NATO and Poland, Australia will deploy a Royal Australian Air Force E-7A Wedgetail aircraft in August along with 100 Australian Defence Force personnel. 
Part of Operation Kudu, the deployment is designed to protect an international gateway for humanitarian and military assistance into Ukraine and will not be direct combat roles. 
The deployment is expected to conclude by November and will compliment Australia’s more than $1.5billion in support to Ukraine since the Russian [blah blah mockingbird blergh]
>> The deployment of an E-7A Wedgetail aircraft will again showcase our ability to operate from Europe, alongside NATO and partners, in support of Ukraine and international peace and security.’

*operate from Europe*
Why????????????

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 26 2025 2:12 utc | 295

The rearming starts.
Posted by: knighthawk | Jun 26 2025 1:50 utc | 297
Proxies from Syria as the cannon fodder boots on the ground.
Edo controls AQ in Syria. Erdo and Azerbaijan are tight. Attacks coming from Azerbaijan….
Plus perhaps headchoppers they can fly in. I dont know who the proxies are operating out of the Saharah but I assume Tuaregs. In MSM propaganda was a piece in the last twentyfour hours about Ukraine taking the fight against Russia to Africa. Nazis and Tuaregs, a bit of an odd couple but beggars can’t e choosers.
I smell a wiff of Lawrence of Arabia in this. Perfidious Albion and erdo on good terms, perfidious albion on good terms with the turkic world.
Kurd, Azeri regions in Iran.
Possibilities of drumming up a half decent adhoc proxy army.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 2:13 utc | 296

https://x.com/nationaljuche/status/1937950984900423717
🔻 🪂🇮🇷🇵🇸🇾🇪🇨🇳🇰🇵National Juche🇰🇵 @nationaljuche
😡I will never forgive 🇯🇴 Jordanian government for depriving me from enjoying hundreds of extra explosions in the Zionist entity!!!
https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1937940007924150462
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️🍅 The Jordanian Armed Forces: We dealt with 156 drones, 107 warheads, and 132 missiles during the “recent regional tension.”
————
https://x.com/peterdaou/status/1937567913575076199
Peter Daou @peterdaou
Kicked out of Lebanon, bombed by Iran, so back to what they do best:
starve and slaughter defenseless children.
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1937560241891344719
unusual_whales @unusual_whales
Israel has announced it will “focus now on Gaza,” after ceasefire with Iran

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 26 2025 2:13 utc | 297

@296 Wodger
“Its response was measured, yet symbolically high”
Can be read in various ways, for example
“They did not go pre-emptive and dump all their armament on “Israel” in one go, but instead targeted “Israel” in a calculated manner to cause maximum effect by hitting highly symbolic targets”
:-/
As you note, the escalation rhetoric was evident with use of nuclear weapon by “Israel” considered a possibility by Iranian command.
Whether Iran coordinated with US is a different question, US presented its actions as an off ramp, and Iran echoed that in its reply.
Note, how the MAGA/Neocon dichotomy is being presented us now :
MAGA : The strike was a success and Iran nuclear set back by years.
Neocon: The strike was a failure, hence the continued need to obliterate Iran.
It plays on people’s loyalties…should we ‘pretend’ it was successful to avoid re-escalation against Iran ?
It plays on US “Israeli” policy…should there now be a focus on stabilising “Israel” and annexing Gaza, or should there be a turn to extreme regime change options on Iran ?
They present the narrative and guide public perception to the wanted answer, so something to be aware of maybe.
Possibly they will let the narrative drift in whichever direction depending on the position Iran takes now. Trump would be against probably, but then he had no qualm with regime change either…so it would be a new act of some kind, probably with “Israel” being ‘intransigent against US wishes’ again or similar.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 26 2025 2:15 utc | 298

FFS George.
We are asked again and again and again.
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS.
Hate to say it m8, you’re one of the biggest offenders.
When you’re not feeding trolls, you’re readable contributor.
But FFS you’ve been asked by many barflies, many times. Ignore the trolls
Just scroll by.
Comment to someone with something to say. Stop shitting in the front bar.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Jun 26 2025 2:17 utc | 299

George, Karl
I did a search for “China fission fusion reactor” and this link is first off the results.
https://www.neimagazine.com/news/china-plans-worlds-first-fusion-fission-power-plant/
“China plans to start construction of the world’s first fusion-fission power plant, with the aim of generating 100 MW of continuous electricity for the national grid by 2030. The facility will be built on Yaohu Science Island in the hi-tech zone of Nanchang, Jiangxi province, in central China.”
Full article at the link but that initial paragraph gives the picture. I think it was late last year I read about it. The articles coming up are dated recently so they haven’t as yet started construction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 26 2025 2:27 utc | 300