Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 14, 2025
Lies Used To Justify War On Iraq Get Reused To Wage War On Iran

Former CIA officer Larry Johnson opines:

I believe that Israel’s attack was part of a planned international intelligence and military operation, which included the participation and support of the United States, the United Kingdom, France and Germany. We got the first clue on May 31, when a UN watchdog issued two reports designed to create a narrative that Iran is a rogue nuclear state:

This tactic was employed in 2002/2003 to gin up a justification to attack Iraq, who the US insisted had weapons of mass destruction. We now know it was a lie, but the propaganda was effective in producing support in the US and Europe to invade Iraq. We’re seeing a similar effort today, only this time Iran is being falsely accused of enriching uranium to build a bomb. The Iraq WMD lie, like the current calumny against Iran, only has one purpose… justify military action in order to achieve regime change.

I have previously detailed the current IAEA operation to blame Iran over some alleged nuclear contamination which were found more than two decades ago.

During the build-up to the 2003 war on Iraq there was another lie that famously used to 'justify' the attack.

It was alleged that Iraq's leader Saddam Hussein was in cahoots with al-Qaeda, a terrorist group that had been created by the U.S. in Pakistan to fight against the Soviet supported government of Afghanistan.

Al-Qaeda was alleged to have committed attacks in the U.S. on 9/11 2001. Associating Iraq, which had fought against al-Qaeda inspired groups, with al-Qaeda itself was the second most cited lie used to justify the U.S. war on Iraq.

It is no wonder than that a similar narrative is now suddenly being build with regards to Iran.

David Ignatius, the unofficial CIA spokesman at the Washington Post, was told to publish this nonsense (archived):

But Iran has other means to hit back. One that has received little attention is its relationship with al-Qaeda affiliates. According to former U.S. counterterrorism officials, Tehran has built good relations with the new “de facto” al-Qaeda “emir,” Saif al-Adel, who took over in 2023 after Ayman al-Zawahiri was killed. These former officials say Adel helped manage WMD planning for Osama bin Laden.

The al-Qaeda affiliate in Yemen may pose a special danger. It’s headed by Saad bin Atef al-Awlaki, who posted a chilling video this month threatening U.S. officials. “Go after the scum of the earth and its greatest criminals,” he urged his followers, naming Trump, Vice President JD Vance, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and former DOGE chief Elon Musk. “There are no red lines after all that has been happening to our people in Gaza,” he said. According to the Jerusalem Post, Awlaki urged Muslims in Europe and America to make sure there is “not a single safe place” for Jews.

Who would be those "former U.S. counterterrorism officials"? Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, or some other notorious liars?

Saif al-Adel, the "de facto" never declared leader of Al-Qaeda has since 2001 been rumored to be in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Egypt and Iran where he allegedly was once under house arrest and later exchanged against Iranian hostages held by al-Qaeda in Yemen.

Over more than two decades the Shia Iran has fought the Sunni al-Qaeda wherever it could. Its operations against Sunni extremist in Iraq and Syria were largely wars against al-Qaeda affiliated forces. In Yemen Iran is allied with the Houthi who are fighting against U.S. supported al-Qaeda aligned groups in the south of the country. A similar situation exists in Lebanon where Iran supported Hizbullah forces have for years feuded against al-Qaeda aligned radicals.

To claim that Iran is now somehow in cahoots with Saif al-Adel, an alleged but never declared leader of a more or less extinct al-Qaeda, is blatant nonsense.

David Ignatius is a much read 'opinion leader'. That he was told to trot out those nonsensical claims is a signal for others to pick up on them.

We can now expect lots of other second rated opinion writers to come up with similar tales.

It is, like the attempt to associated Iran with weapons of mass destruction, a narrative that will be used to further escalate the current regime change war on Iran.

Comments

Notable, perhaps even “noticeable” that @fnord, @steven t johnson, and @William Gruff would rather discuss a “noking shop”, than the currently unfolding events in Israel.
Oy vey…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 14 2025 22:16 utc | 501

some folks at moa need to post less for obvious reasons – LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:44 utc | 479 – in particular..
some, like norwegian and a few others – continue as you see fit.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Jun 14 2025 22:19 utc | 502

(And I’ve actually done so, back in the day: working as a psychiatric nursing assistant.)
* Tardive dyskinesia is a movement disorder characterized by involuntary, repetitive body movements, often as a side effect of long-term use of certain medications, particularly antipsychotics. Symptoms can include grimacing, lip-smacking, and uncontrolled movements of the limbs and face.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 14 2025 22:15 utc | 512
Ah the old, “OMG, you are so off topic, here is my off topic post to add to off topic posts” post.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:21 utc | 503

Colonelcassad
Iran reported that an unnamed hypersonic missile, as well as missiles of the Emad, Ghadr, and Kheibar Shekan types, were used in the Haifa strike. Of these, the Emad is the most capable.
Iran has not yet used “heavy” warheads in the first wave. Their strikes were observed yesterday in Tel Aviv.
Iran also reported that it is preparing for a long military confrontation.

Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 14 2025 22:22 utc | 504

@ Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 14 2025 22:22 utc | 516
Has there ever been a war like this before, where neither really has the capability or power to field soldiers in the other’s territory? Having to pass through Syria would be a disaster for Iran at this point, and no way does Jordan or Saudi Arabia provide safe passage via Iraq.

Posted by: fnord | Jun 14 2025 22:25 utc | 505

saner | Jun 14 2025 21:19 utc | 458–
Airports are very difficult to put out-of-action as their runways are hard to hit and can be swiftly repaired unless hit by a big enough warhead to cause a massive divot. Most Iranian missiles have small warheads that aren’t powerful enough to cause the required massive divot. I’d imagine Zionist airbase fuel and ammo bunkers are underground and hardened and thus hard to destroy. Thus, when picking targets for missiles, there are many other softer targets that are even more important to the Zionist economy than the airbases. In other words, target selection is a product of the chosen strategic course.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 14 2025 22:25 utc | 506

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:57 utc | 492

Thank you for chiming in on the airports. To be honest, I don’t believe that saner is genuine in his statements. Re: airports: my interpretation of the data we get from the Ukraine front: targeting an empty airport with missiles is not worth it but an airport with planes is or at least can be. We had something similar with trains: Russia hit several stations with an important train.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 22:04 utc | 504
Despite people like Stoltenberg there are still nice places here.

It’s perhaps still an idle hope but if we’re lucky then the current developments lead to the sudden unseating of all the Kallas, Stoltenbergs, Stubbs, Starmers… the list is so long. I expect the currently dominating policital guard to double down and we may end up in a closed (North America + West Europe) dystopia but just perhaps…

Posted by: Konami | Jun 14 2025 22:26 utc | 507

🇺🇸🇮🇷⚡️US orders Americans to immediately leave Iran.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42381

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 22:28 utc | 508

Very clear video of Iranian ballistics impacting Haifa

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 14 2025 22:14 utc | 511
Watching that, it is clear how ineffective the so-called Iron Dome or Davids Arm In A Sling defences are; pathetically slow “interceptors” drifting up to where the incoming had passed by some seconds earlier.
BTW, along with my thanks to @Norwegian, thank you also for your contributions.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 14 2025 22:28 utc | 509

Stop looking at GatewayPundit and find out what is happening in your country.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:41 utc | 475
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Guess who looks at Gateway Pundit!!!
LOL
Yours truly, “Genocide Jane”

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 22:33 utc | 510

🇺🇸 The Great — actually the greatest, most spectacular, maybe the greatest ever — military parade has begun. It even started early. About half an hour early. That’s how good it is.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151567
(the rumor is that the real reason is that the weather gods are considering to rain on the parade)

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 22:36 utc | 511

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:48 utc | 484
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Gee, I wish more Telegram channels or whatever they are called would be unlocked.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 22:38 utc | 512

Iranian ‘Arash’ drones impacting in Eilat.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131120

Posted by: Siddhartha | Jun 14 2025 22:39 utc | 513

“I am not American.”
And I am a Black transgender lesbian.
See? We’re the same.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 22:03 utc | 502
Two intelligent adults carrying on like children. Get a room somewhere.

Posted by: Menz | Jun 14 2025 22:40 utc | 514

What you and several others do not understand, my dear vicious princess, is that power doesn’t care about Constitutions.
It doesn’t care about elections or consent.
It is ironic that after brutally colonizing so many others, now Americans are being colonized by the state that they worship. The next soft people to exploit. You guys are so f’d up, you disbelieve attempts to save yourselves. Your minds have been so twisted that you would rather drown than climb out of the water and you will punch anyone who offers a life preserver.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:51 utc | 487
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Pearls of wisdom from TDSD.
Not.
LOL.
Yours truly, “Genocide Jane”

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 22:41 utc | 515

Philip Giraldi
@philipgiraldi
“If United States go to war with Iran in near future it will not be because Tehran actually threatens America—It will be because of Israel and it’s powerful lobby in the US—Netanyahu once said, 9/11 was good for Israel”
Highlights of speech at the National Summit to Reassess the US-Israel “Special Relationship” conference on March 7th, 2014 at the National Press Club.
https://x.com/philipgiraldi/status/1933517300155417019

Posted by: Menz | Jun 14 2025 22:41 utc | 516

see the photos at the first link
see the 2:11 video at the second link of Prof Marandi talking back to the Sky News reporter
see the several short videos at the third link, Sputnik
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1934006695463973169
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
⚡️Iranian media says Haifa Oil refinery was targeted in retaliation to the attack on South Pars Gas field earlier.
Possibly Haifa Power plant
https://x.com/GozukaraFurkan/status/1933989321167507649
Furkan Gözükara @GozukaraFurkan
Prof Seyed Mohammad Marandi cooked the shameless lying Zionist media amazingly
https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1933986713866522999
Sputnik @SputnikInt
🚨BREAKING: Haifa port, which handles over 30% of Israeli imports, is burning after Iranian missiles hit
Big explosion seen upon Iranian missiles impact
https://x.com/SputnikInt/status/1933983117691310507
BREAKING: Iranian missiles spotted over northern Israel.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 14 2025 22:42 utc | 517

Dr. Yousef 𓂆🇵🇸
@yousef_ki1
Gaza Strip is in complete blackout.
No internet. No phone signal. No way to call for help.
in addition to the interruption of food, the interruption of medicine, the interruption of security.
Pass it .. reply with a dot . ” Break the silence ”
https://x.com/yousef_ki1/status/1933433060739199022

Posted by: Menz | Jun 14 2025 22:42 utc | 518

To be honest, I don’t believe that saner is genuine in his statements.
Posted by: Konami | Jun 14 2025 22:26 utc | 519
Neither do I, but it is a valid and interesting question none the less.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:42 utc | 519

Gaza Notifications
@gazanotice
🚨As global attention shifts to Iran and Gaza remains under total communication blackout, Israeli forces continue to blow up ethnically cleansed neighborhoods in Rafah, southern Gaza, using massive explosives.
Soldiers are proudly documenting and posting the destruction on social media.
13.06.2025
https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1933640867002146982

Posted by: Menz | Jun 14 2025 22:43 utc | 520

🇺🇸🇰🇵 Trump Hot Mic! He wants to be like Kim Jong Un!

He speaks and his people sit up at attention! I want my people to do the same.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151568
If the consequences of this insanity were not so grave, this would be funny.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 22:44 utc | 521

💧Mary Kostakidis
@MaryKostakidis
What a load of claptrap – ‘head of a snake’, and if you don’t see it that way you’re an Islamist sympathiser. We all have to cheer the bombing of yet another country and killing of civilians. Did the MSM all get their text message with talking points and headlines again? Singing from the same song book, and getting all the words right
https://x.com/MaryKostakidis/status/1933843499818127601

Posted by: Menz | Jun 14 2025 22:44 utc | 522

New launches reported.
-Also assassination of high level figure in Tehran re-reported.
-A clear picture of the sabotage actions of internal elements,
“..possibly using Spike anti-armor missiles to hit targets, now either assassination or destruction of defenses by Mossad saboteurs in Tehran”
https://t.me/sepahcybery/118736

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 22:44 utc | 523

Sulaiman Ahmed
@ShaykhSulaiman
BREAKING: Palestinian Ministry of Health:
90 martyrs and 605 injuries have arrived at hospitals across Gaza in the past 48 hours.
A number of victims remain under the rubble and in the streets, unreachable by ambulance and civil defense crews.
The total toll of the Israeli aggression since October 7, 2023, has risen to:
55,297 martyrs and 128,426 injuries.
Since March 18, 2025, the toll has reached:
5,014 martyrs and 16,385 injuries.
Martyrs related to aid distribution:
In the past 48 hours alone, hospitals received 29 martyrs and over 380 injuries resulting from attacks on aid distribution points.
This brings the total number of “martyrs of livelihood” (civilians killed while trying to receive aid) who arrived at hospitals from designated aid areas to 274 martyrs and over 2,532 injuries.
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1933847355352076364

Posted by: Menz | Jun 14 2025 22:45 utc | 524

What help can North Korea provide to Iran?

Posted by: Afro | Jun 14 2025 22:45 utc | 525

“Tell that to the dead State Senator and her husband in Minnesota.”
The price to give astroturf “protest” events the appearance of legitimacy, or at least obfuscate how fake they are.
If the poster were not a fraud they would admit and acknowledge that killings are a key par of color revolution attempts.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:49 utc | 485
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Supposedly some “No Kings” posters or flyers were found in the killer’s car. Which is of course super-convenient. But for whom?
So, that can be interpreted in more than one way.
What narrative are we going to see? What will be the takeaway plot?
That the flyers indicate that the killer is a “No Kings” advocate (implicates the movement in the killing).
Or that the flyer indicates that the killings were a protest AGAINST the No Kings kabuki and thus is the work of a white supremacist-racist-fascist??

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 22:46 utc | 526

Although this thread is about Iran, I feel that the domestic situation in the U.S. is part and parcel of what is happening in the world.
But I take a different approach when sniffing out the cui bono of this whole thing than the above posters.
I posit that both domestic arms of the deep state, the maniac, idealist libs and the conservatards led by their Judas Goat Presidente Cheetosimo, are ginning up a powder keg that will develop into the conditions for a complete Federal takeover with Palantir being the software, the ring to bind them, that unites all Federal agencies.
The Army March on its birthday for Trump contrasts very nicely with the white collar suicidalists in the streets today. The same way Biden was flanked by the two stoic Marines under the blood red flood lights of his address to scare domestic terrorists on the interweb back in 2022.
Whatever constitutional advances Trump makes in his presidency, and I have seen absolutely none so far, will be lambasted and undone to an inverse and even worse degree in four years. I am thinking of patriots losing their jobs because of the vaccine mandate (and don’t even try to tell me that that wasn’t aimed at “hands-off my freedom” conservatives).
By the way, no matter what our resident Bolshevik Canucks will say, or would have said if they still posted here, the Canadian truckers were the last true attempt to disrupt their plan for us. The yellow vests before that.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 14 2025 22:47 utc | 527

•Gaza
Via Journalist Hossam Shabat
“The Steadfastness Convoy to Break the Siege on Gaza:
– Since yesterday, the convoy has been subjected to a systematic siege that has reached the point of starvation by the eastern Libyan authorities, who prevented it from advancing towards Sirte.
– The eastern Libyan authorities prevented the arrival of any supplies of food, water and medicine to the convoy participants, whose number is close to 1,500 people.
-The security services pursued and arrested a number of the convoy participants, alleging the existence of videos offensive to the Benghazi authorities.”

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 22:48 utc | 528

@ Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 22:46 utc | 540
The suspect is a semi-prominent Christian nationalist who was probably trying to stoke confusion. He also impersonated a cop and wore a vinyl mask to hide his identity. Seems like a nutcase, but his ideological leanings were to the far right, and these far right nut jobs love the parapolitics and psyops (they are frequently psyopping themselves).

Posted by: fnord | Jun 14 2025 22:49 utc | 530

Gee, I wish more Telegram channels or whatever they are called would be unlocked.
Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 22:38 utc | 525
——
Me too. I’d love to be watching Haifa go dark. I tried signing up for Telegram a little while ago but had trouble figuring it out, maybe because I don’t have a cell phone.

Posted by: Chas | Jun 14 2025 22:49 utc | 531

The way to manipulate Trump is to wish him Happy Birthday and congratulate him. His ego drives everything that he does.
It is low-cost and very effective.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 19:15 utc | 333

So, was his canceled birthday parade part of the psyops? Of COURSE we wouldn’t bomb Iran with this big parade coming up!

Posted by: freedom fritos | Jun 14 2025 22:50 utc | 532

Iranian General Ahmad Wahidi:
“You only see Tel Aviv damage because it’s crowded & full of cameras. But we ALSO hit Israel’s 3 MAIN airbases—Nevatim, Tel Nof, Ovda—HARD. Zionist media censorship is hiding the truth!”

Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 14 2025 22:51 utc | 533

@Posted by: Mario | Jun 14 2025 20:11 utc | 386
“Internal security iusses are one thing, distributing a some million of devices across Iran is another.”
I can only speak from what i have seen but the internal security of Iran is probably pretty weak. That is the whole point, it is not police state or crayze rigid system. I saw barley any cops in Tehran. I got offerd to smoke hashish in center of Tehran in a puplic park (i did not, too hot and too paranoid as a forigner). Walking pass goverment buildings and having my rather small Leica camera hanging around my neck, i got a few times approached by security, who pointed at the “no photo signs”.
This are maybe weak and stupid examples but in Istanbul or Berlin there are / were way more cops visible. I can very much see how all this attacks on peivat apartments of leader ship can be pulled of there. Tehran is a buzing Megacity but it felt always somwat slow and not loose. Hard to describe, specialy if you dont live there.
If something is across the border, within the country it can probably move pretty free. Whatever it is.
One general remark; this country will pull rather together again than fall apart. As much as Saddams / US attack probably saved the revolutions so will this attack even more. My exil-Iranian comrads hate the current goverment with all their heart (they would prbably get arrested after arrival) but they hate USrael even more and would not hesitate defending the country. Just had a tearfull conversation with one of them. She said she was just screaming in her pillow.
God i am so sick of this shit. I did not manage to visit Persepolis so far and that some scum like Trump and Bibi delaying this dream just makes me sick to my stomach.
Salam !

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Jun 14 2025 22:51 utc | 534

Addendum to my 485 above
Yes, I am saying that LoveTDS’ “team” killed the senator to help cover for the obvious fakeness of their mass media manufactured “protest” events.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:55 utc | 490
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That sounds quite plausible.
OF COURSE the point of the manufactured protest is to create optics that support the “US civil war brewing” narrative. This is part of the Globalist agenda to work toward the breakup of the USA.
To plant these seeds (It’s already happening!!!) and water them.
While undermining the immigration laws of the USA, among others, and acting like no one is capable of understanding the Constitution.
TDSDonbass’s constant venom spewing certainly seems to align indirectly with this agenda (including at little old me, “Genocide Jane”!).

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 22:54 utc | 535

@ NemesisCalling | Jun 14 2025 22:47 utc | 541

. . . the Canadian truckers were the last true attempt to disrupt their plan for us. The yellow vests before that.

The fight continues until our last breath.

Posted by: maja | Jun 14 2025 22:54 utc | 536

Re: airports:
They don’t have to be destroyed, all that is required is the closure of the airspace. Civilian airline operators will be looking closely at their insurance/liability cover as soon as there is any chance of increased risk.
Repurposing civilian airports for military use is not a straightforward business.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 14 2025 22:54 utc | 537

To be honest, I don’t believe that saner is genuine in his statements.
Posted by: Konami | Jun 14 2025 22:26 utc | 519
Neither do I, but it is a valid and interesting question none the less.
Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:42 utc | 532
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Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:57 utc | 492
You checked your blood pressure lately? You should.
Posted by: saner | Jun 14 2025 22:43 utc | 533
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and this is the trolls response to my well thought out reply…
nope, not genuine
Oh, and “Roger” was banned, and all his posts erased.
and my blood pressure is just fine as it as always been. I am quite fit and centered.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:55 utc | 538

By the way, was Hitler right about the Jews?

Posted by: dodo | Jun 14 2025 22:57 utc | 539

IRAN UNLEASHED HYPERSONIC MISSILES TODAY.
MANY HITS. INSANE.
A SMALL CUT OF TONIGHT’S VIDEOS.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1934008110818988489

Posted by: MiniMO | Jun 14 2025 22:57 utc | 540

The suspect is a semi-prominent Christian nationalist who was probably trying to stoke confusion. He also impersonated a cop and wore a vinyl mask to hide his identity. Seems like a nutcase, but his ideological leanings were to the far right, and these far right nut jobs love the parapolitics and psyops (they are frequently psyopping themselves).
Posted by: fnord | Jun 14 2025 22:49 utc | 544
a far-right nut job appointed by Tim Walz for four years?

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:59 utc | 541

@ UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:55 utc | 552
that was a fake roger as tom collins pointed out..

Posted by: james | Jun 14 2025 22:59 utc | 542

this us parade is a clownshow. they all march like the 5 ukrainians during the british parade.
all thats missing is the horseshit on the road.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 14 2025 22:59 utc | 543

Who would wage a color revolution against Trump?
. . .
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:53 utc | 488
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First you say that No Kings has a “hard edge” (implying, “this is serious, folks–civil war on the way! “), and now you say this.
So, which is it?
Could it be that you revealed your agenda with the “hard edge” comment, and now you are doing damage control?
Boy (and/or girl?), whichever way, you sure outted yourself.
Thank you.
Yours truly, “Genocide Jane”

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 23:00 utc | 544

saner | Jun 14 2025 22:37 utc | 524–
Thanks for your reply. During WW2, much allied bombing effort was placed on eliminating airfields that post-war analysis showed was mostly wasted. The Cold War Era brought the hardening of airbases mostly in Europe but also elsewhere. The Zionist reliance on their airforce is huge and thus much is done to protect those assets. I agree with the premise of eliminating fuel and ammo stores at those bases, but most likely the two-ton warhead the Iranians just produced are too few to be employed and thus aren’t, although a hypersonic hit might do the job provided very precise targeting coordinates were available and the missile has incredible accuracy. Again, there’s the strategic priority listing. We may see those airfields targeted later in the conflict when Zionist AD is depleted allowing concentrated salvos of missiles to be used. Iran published several videos of its underground missile storehouses which were very vast and contained many thousands of missiles. Plus, they have the facilities to manufacture more; that is a key factor the Zionists lack. Their logistical train is based in the Outlaw US Empire.
One last point on the Zionist airforce. Its F-16s and F-35s both require a lot of hanger time after missions–they cannot fly sortie after sortie after sortie like Russian aircraft. Then there’s the issue of fuel and ordinance quantities: How long can a squadron operate at full war level on what is available at its base? I don’t have that answer but I’ll bet the Iranians have a very good idea. And all that begs the question: How well did the Zionists prepare for this war?
One aspect we’re not getting much info about is what’s happening in Iran, which IMO is every bit as important as what’s happening in Occupied Palestine.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 14 2025 23:01 utc | 545

Isfahan under attack now.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 23:03 utc | 546

Thanks! Despite people like Stoltenberg there are still nice places here.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 22:04 utc | 504
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I want to go to Bergen!
Whaddya think?
Sorry for OT.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 23:05 utc | 547

that was a fake roger as tom collins pointed out..
Posted by: james | Jun 14 2025 22:59 utc | 556
it was another Lavrovs Dog sock. he will never quit.
It wasn’t fake Roger, as the real Roger is actually “Roger Boyd”
and of course Georgie is still him, possibly saner too.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:06 utc | 548

‘Yes we did’
Hegseth confirms he moved air defense systems bound for Ukraine to Middle East instead
‘We’re doing everything we can to protect our people there; it’s a different landscape’
Ukrainians will one day realize they were just pawns.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131122

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 23:08 utc | 549

Norwegian @507
Damn, that’s… beautiful!
That ain’t no toy rocket!
Obviously ridiculously accurate too since it snuffed the power in the city instantly.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 23:09 utc | 550

For anyone who watched the specimens marching above, here’s a pleasant interlude:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4DZQhfrl5Y

Posted by: bassplayer | Jun 14 2025 23:10 utc | 551

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:03 utc | 501
#######
Why would I make a bet about something that will happen or won’t?
I don’t care if America has a revolution or if pols get assassinated. It doesn’t matter to me. Just like you don’t care if there is a revolution in the Global South.
America’s your country. You should be concerned about it. Or maybe not.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:12 utc | 552

@Justpassinby | Jun 14 2025 22:59 utc | 557
🇺🇸 Yo… what the hell is this?
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151569
🇺🇸 No time to rehearse? There’s not even any music—probably for the best, because it would’ve looked even worse with it.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151570
🇺🇸 It’s a train wreck… but we can’t stop watching.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151571
🇷🇺 Here you go—just so you feel a bit better after watching whatever the hell that was in Washington.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151572

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 23:13 utc | 553

China sends the first military aid to Iran — unknown cargo.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131123

Posted by: Siddhartha | Jun 14 2025 23:13 utc | 554

I haven’t gone through all of the posts here, but on Twitter/ X there are reports that Pakistan has announced a nuclear umbrella over Iran. Any Israeli use of nuclear weapons will be met with a Pakistani retaliation. Further, the Pakistani armed forces have apparently/ supposedly?/ Speculatively? announced that if another nation enters the conflict, they’ll openly ally with Iran…
Any veracity to these claims? Are there links of these announcements?

Posted by: Dave | Jun 14 2025 23:13 utc | 555

Wow the ‘no kings’, flopped!!!
Anyway, was the Musk’s Epistein talk and LA’s incident last week an Israeli operation to pressure the Orange dude in White House to support this nonsense??

Posted by: Nick | Jun 14 2025 23:14 utc | 556

Folks, can we please park the egos? Grab some more popcorn and sit back and watch as another front in World War BRICS rebounds on the West.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 14 2025 23:14 utc | 557

It was to your earlier post. 492. You just seem kind of angry.
Thank you for ” but it is a valid and interesting question none the less.” though.
Apologies if I have irritated you, which clearly I have. Feel free to ignore me.
Posted by: saner | Jun 14 2025 23:07 utc | 563
Oh did I?
Oh apologies, is it now?
I guess the “blood pressure” comment was “genuine” concern for my health?
you always “sock” at being genuine.
But you always try, and then the “saner” part slowly slips, and we all see the “insaner” part emerge, until meltdown, tells and ban.
And the next day, a new, “genuine” sock is born. It’s the sockle of life.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:15 utc | 558

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 23:00 utc | 558
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Darling, my “agenda” has always been anti-imperialism.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:15 utc | 559

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:12 utc | 567
lol
of course you cant back your mouth up.
But it did shut you up for an hour as you tried to think of the best way to make your weasel out look like heroic defiance.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:16 utc | 560

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:06 utc | 562
No that’s his name at substack he’s often used “Roger” here but usually with his name as a hyperlink.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 14 2025 23:16 utc | 561

“Assistant Director of the Moral Guidance Department of the Yemeni Armed Forces, Amin Al-Barai:
The Israeli claim regarding the targeting of Chief of Staff Mohammed Al-Ghamari is false and baseless, and aims to divert attention from the Iranian missile strikes that hit strategic sites inside the entity.
– Al-Ghamari is in good health and directly supervises the management of the Yemeni strikes against the Israeli entity.”

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 23:18 utc | 562

Posted by: thomasjkenney | Jun 14 2025 22:14 utc | 510
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The only thing I cheer is the end of Empire.
I don’t care if the hegemon is Russian, Chinese, or Ethiopian. It probably won’t be as bad as the colonial West.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:20 utc | 563

West is the land of lies, somebody said.

Posted by: alfeu* | Jun 14 2025 23:20 utc | 564

@Siddhartha | Jun 14 2025 23:13 utc | 569
However, the Flightradar screenshot shows destination Luxembourg. Not that I think China sends cargo planes to Luxembourg, but anyway. That they are flying in Iranian airspace now is perhaps a better sign of where they are going, I agree.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 23:20 utc | 565

Note various drones have reached occupied territories and are keeping the occupation busy. At least one reached target.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 23:21 utc | 566

Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 23:13 utc | 568–
I’ll bet all those Civil War Uniforms were made in China or anywhere but USA. The marching was atrocious, just horrible–out-of-step, no crispness, little sense of purpose or pride, particularly those in modern uniforms. That last clip from the 9 May Parade was an excellent choice.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 14 2025 23:21 utc | 567

Any veracity to these claims? Are there links of these announcements?
Posted by: Dave | Jun 14 2025 23:13 utc | 570
no. just rumors, and unlikely.
ai answer:
Pakistan has not officially declared military support for Iran amid the recent tensions following Israel’s strikes on Iranian territory. However, the country has strongly condemned Israel’s actions, calling them “unjustified and illegitimate aggression” and reaffirming its solidarity with Iran. Pakistan’s Foreign Office emphasized that the Israeli strikes violated Iran’s sovereignty and contravened the UN Charter and international law.
Additionally, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has directed authorities to assist Pakistani pilgrims in Iran, highlighting the diplomatic and humanitarian stance rather than a military one.
While some discussions on platforms like Reddit speculated about potential military support from Pakistan to Iran, analysts and public opinion suggest that such support is unlikely due to the potential for international sanctions and Pakistan’s current geopolitical positioning.
Pakistan has also reinforced its air defense systems near nuclear sites and the Iranian border as a precautionary measure, though officials have stated there is no direct threat.
In a broader context, Pakistan has historically maintained diplomatic and economic ties with Iran, including cooperation on regional security issues and energy projects. However, recent developments indicate that Pakistan is carefully navigating its position to avoid direct military entanglement while supporting Iran through diplomatic channels.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:22 utc | 568

@all
With all due respect could you guys stop talking about the internal dynamics of the big Satan. This is a serious situation and there must be for once a other place or time to talk about big Satan. Small Satan is ok. Big Satan should be a BIG NO NO unless Trump gets shot, Pentagon blows up or the fourth skyscrape falls.
Really i am not hating, but this venue is one of the only places to get infos if Telegram, X or whatever are not a option. But wading trough endless back and fourth big Satan culture war triva is just tiring.
Thank you!

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Jun 14 2025 23:23 utc | 569

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:16 utc | 575
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Go have another drink.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:25 utc | 570

Wave of missiles.
For those without access to telegram , the following channels are open and provide coverage:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/SEPAHCYBERY?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 23:26 utc | 571

@ Ornot | Jun 14 2025 23:26 utc | 587
thanks ornot.. from one of them – this –
Israeli Military Censorship to the Israeli Public:
“We bring to your attention: Publishing videotapes from rocket landing sites constitutes assistance to the enemy in times of war and harms state security. You are requested to refrain from doing so. If there are open cameras in the vicinity of strategic and military sites, you are requested to turn them off.”

Posted by: james | Jun 14 2025 23:33 utc | 572

Definitely looked like a hypersonic strike on Haifa.

Posted by: a stone | Jun 14 2025 23:36 utc | 573

You should try the ignore thing.
Posted by: saner | Jun 14 2025 23:22 utc | 584
if you ever want your socks to not be outted, it is you who is going to have to ignore me.
I purposefully push your buttons not just to raise your blood pressure, but also to make you tell on yourself, which you always do.
And your above post has the first.
I usually wait for about three, before I declare it is you, again ,100%.
But you can’t…
because this is your life.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:36 utc | 574

Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Jun 14 2025 23:23 utc | 585
this particuler thread specifically deals with the USA and its lies, although I found your anecdotes about expats interesting, as I did make a post earlier with a lot of doubts about the strength of the Iranian government as a theocracy in the 21st century.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:40 utc | 575

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 23:00 utc | 558
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Darling, my “agenda” has always been anti-imperialism.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:15 utc | 574
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!!!!!
What frat (or sorority) house do you dwell in?
Yours truly, “Genocide Jane”

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 23:40 utc | 576

<>
Shorter msg to the Israeli public:
“You may know you are human shields; don’t broadcast it to the world!”

Posted by: nudge | Jun 14 2025 23:42 utc | 577

@james | Jun 14 2025 23:33 utc | 588
Shorter msg to the Israeli public:
“You may know you are human shields; don’t broadcast it to the world!”

Posted by: nudge | Jun 14 2025 23:44 utc | 578

How do I know with certainty that the claim by LoveTDS to not be American is a lie? Easy, actually.
Lots of negativity sprayed about Brexit, but outside of Europe (and England, of course) did anyone invest much energy into hating on people who voted for Brexit? Sure, some notable personalities for and against in the issue were ridiculed and lambasted, but the actual voters? Nope, nobody outside the immediate tribes involved were emotionally invested enough to spew hysterical vitriol one way or the other. It is only the immediate tribes involved who reacted as if the other side had personally attacked them.
Note that LoveTDS doesn’t just obsess over Trump, the dembot regularly sprays venom over “MAGA” (”deplorables”), as if they personally insult and offend him. This is proof he is very much a member of one of the tribes involved in the internal squabble in the Imperial core. This is proof he is American.
Don’t let his cut-and-paste posts from social media fool you.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 23:44 utc | 579

Re: Trump’s military parade, “No Kings”, etc.
Will it get canceled? I DGAF if it’s “celebrating” 250 years of the army. That’s bullshit anyway. The moment the “Department of War” was rebranded and remarketed the “Department of Defense” it became illegitimate. And as little regard or respect for the presidency, or anyone who would ever be sociopath enough to pursue it, it’s still gauche and completely stupid to have that type of parade in this country. You either adhere to your fairy tales and myths to the public or you flout them and risk destroying the illusion, bringing down the facade. And nobody tell me Trump is doing that in some brilliant 4-D chess move. That’s bullshit. He’s just a fuckin Clown King.
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In general, who cares if some of it is astroturf – does anyone here think that the “Tea Party” movement back in the post-financial meltdown Obama years was like this organic, grassroots movement? LOL of course not. Any time one political party is favored over another in a “nationwide” protest movement, there is at least SOME astroturfing going on. Who gives a fuck, unless you’re going to be consistent across time.
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Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:13 utc | 509
That’s not what steven t johnson said. He said that TRUMP’S BIG PARADE tomorrow is not being covered by local media. NOT that the “No Kings” stuff today isn’t being covered.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 14 2025 23:44 utc | 580

Luftwaffe is confirmed joining in on defending Israel despite not publicly announcing their participation.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131130

Posted by: Siddhartha | Jun 14 2025 23:45 utc | 581

Iran needs air-defense, Israel will run out of steam after 10-14 days of air-strikes. If Iran indeed has the possibility to keep these assaults for more than that, Israel will have big problems. I’m fairly certain that it received a lot of interceptor missiles from Uncle Sam in the last months.
What I find disgusting is the help it receives from France, Germany, UK and other vassals in the region (Rat King from Jordan). The devastation to Israel would’ve been more severe if these nations didn’t provided support. Hence why I believe China would need to do more to even the scale. Or at least to help them rebuild quick enough the destroyed infrastructure.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 14 2025 23:47 utc | 582

That’s not what steven t johnson said. He said that TRUMP’S BIG PARADE tomorrow is not being covered by local media. NOT that the “No Kings” stuff today isn’t being covered.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 14 2025 23:44 utc | 596
you are right this time.
I should have never read a post of his. I usually dont.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:48 utc | 583

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 23:26 utc | 587
Nice. Thanks. Those open ones work fine from a web browser.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 14 2025 23:48 utc | 584

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Go have another drink.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:25 utc | 586

Why don’t you go fuck a nine year old girl like your moral exemplar and “perfect man” did, you disruptive pig?

Posted by: itsallsotiresome | Jun 14 2025 23:48 utc | 585

70 ballistics were launched, and now another wave has been sent.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:50 utc | 586

I should have never read a post of his. I usually dont.
Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 23:48 utc | 599
LOL. At one point in time I avoided them too. Then I figured out why. It isn’t that I disagree with a lot of his semi-Marxist/materialist ‘analysis’ – it’s his writing style and formatting. All these lower case letters, few paragraph breaks and too many unnecessary words. I have to strain and re-read them twice in order to get thru most of the longer ones.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 14 2025 23:50 utc | 587

More missiles and drones incoming.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131131

Posted by: Siddhartha | Jun 14 2025 23:56 utc | 588

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 23:44 utc | 595
I have to agree with you. LD is an American, possibly ex-pat. IF he/she/it really wasn’t, they’d say specifically what country they supposedly come from.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 14 2025 23:56 utc | 589

German refuelling tanker (Airbus A400M Atlas) in the air over Jordan.
Tel Aviv is getting rocked by ballistic touchdowns. Lots of smoke.
No one is sleeping comfortably in the city tonight.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 23:58 utc | 590

neo-nazi Germans supporting the neo-nazi supremacist settler-colony of israel
all of Nato, especially USA, the UK, France and Germany, all ‘former’ colonial powers, now lending a helping hand to the last remaining neo-colonial outpost of “Western Civilization”
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1934001930742682019
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
German Air Force 🇩🇪 A400 was refueling fighter jets over Iraq, possibly protecting Israel too.
NATO’s E-3A AWACS aircraft is active over Turkey 🇹🇷 gathering intelligence on Iran like it has been doing for the past month.
⚡️Additional British RAF KC2 Voyager + Fighter jets deployed to Akrotiri, Cyprus.
Live tracking shows a group (KC2 + Fighter jets) is already en route to Iraq to protect Israel.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 15 2025 0:01 utc | 591

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 14 2025 23:56 utc | 605
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I’m old school. Pre-Google. Only fools reveal identifiable information online, like, say, using their name on a site watched by security services in the age of Palantir.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 15 2025 0:01 utc | 592

Israel is recruiting veterans to make blog posts favorable to the occupation.
Your tax dollars at work.
https://x.com/dannysmanifesto/status/1933370893184458832

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 15 2025 0:04 utc | 593

I’m old school. Pre-Google. Only fools reveal identifiable information online, like, say, using their name on a site watched by security services in the age of Palantir.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 15 2025 0:01 utc | 608
Even if you’re hiding behind a proxy server, and I am, most of them are directly interfaced with Mossad, MI6 and the NSA. Further, many if not ALL of them are infested with Israeli “former” intelligence agents. Just like all social media. I DGAF if people know I’m posting from the Houston area. If they wanted to find me, they could.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 15 2025 0:05 utc | 594

No comment:
https://t.me/youseffares19/79835

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 15 2025 0:05 utc | 595

Yemen joins Iran in striking the Israeli enemy, launching missiles simultaneously with Iranian drone attacks. 🇮🇷👏🇾🇪

https://x.com/mamashami2/status/1934038174004810231

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 15 2025 0:06 utc | 596

Some silly talk about the “No Kings” Dem plan to stop Trump.
Charlie Kirk got a swift kick in the arse when he polled his young MAGA audience who by 90% said NO US Support for Israel’s War on Iran.
That. Is the beginning of the end of Trumpism. Elected to Make America Great Again (cute slogan) then switches over to killing families in Gaza for personal real estate grubbing. Now…Let’s kill Iranians for Money Grubbers. Young MAGA not going along with the crazed killing program.
In the end, Trump sold his daughter to the tribe and Nothing, I mean Nothing is not for sale in Trumpland’s Tribal ties.

Posted by: kupkee | Jun 15 2025 0:06 utc | 597

Missile strikes on Ashdod and Tel Aviv.
Notice the lack of air defence.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131136
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131141
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131140
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131137?single

Posted by: Siddhartha | Jun 15 2025 0:07 utc | 598

Only fools reveal identifiable information online, like, say, using their name on a site watched by security services in the age of Palantir.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 15 2025 0:01 utc | 608
The Tom Collins is a classic gin-based cocktail known for its refreshing and fizzy characteristics. It typically consists of gin, lemon juice, simple syrup, and club soda, served over ice in a Collins glass with a lemon slice and maraschino cherry as garnish.
I laugh at fools who make fools of themselves by calling others fools.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 15 2025 0:08 utc | 599

Iran got a THAAD. They are expensive and rare, and ineffective, like most American weaponry.
We’re watching the death of Israel and the death of America’s martial mythology.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:43 utc | 478
Z must be weeping of envy
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China sends the first military aid to Iran — unknown cargo.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131123
If true
Nice play by china
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Posted by: Siddhartha | Jun 14 2025 23:13 utc | 569
I haven’t gone through all of the posts here, but on Twitter/ X there are reports that Pakistan has announced a nuclear umbrella over Iran. Any Israeli use of nuclear weapons will be met with a Pakistani retaliation. Further, the Pakistani armed forces have apparently/ supposedly?/ Speculatively? announced that if another nation enters the conflict, they’ll openly ally with Iran…
Any veracity to these claims? Are there links of these announcements?
Posted by: Dave | Jun 14 2025 23:13 utc | 570
If true
Nice play by china
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Final comment haifa and power grid were PARTIAL hits
Full hit on any would probably make israel go nuclear
We’re still in the “you’re sure you want to go through with this ” stage
my 2 rials

Posted by: Newbie | Jun 15 2025 0:08 utc | 600