Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 14, 2025
Lies Used To Justify War On Iraq Get Reused To Wage War On Iran

Former CIA officer Larry Johnson opines:

I believe that Israel’s attack was part of a planned international intelligence and military operation, which included the participation and support of the United States, the United Kingdom, France and Germany. We got the first clue on May 31, when a UN watchdog issued two reports designed to create a narrative that Iran is a rogue nuclear state:

This tactic was employed in 2002/2003 to gin up a justification to attack Iraq, who the US insisted had weapons of mass destruction. We now know it was a lie, but the propaganda was effective in producing support in the US and Europe to invade Iraq. We’re seeing a similar effort today, only this time Iran is being falsely accused of enriching uranium to build a bomb. The Iraq WMD lie, like the current calumny against Iran, only has one purpose… justify military action in order to achieve regime change.

I have previously detailed the current IAEA operation to blame Iran over some alleged nuclear contamination which were found more than two decades ago.

During the build-up to the 2003 war on Iraq there was another lie that famously used to 'justify' the attack.

It was alleged that Iraq's leader Saddam Hussein was in cahoots with al-Qaeda, a terrorist group that had been created by the U.S. in Pakistan to fight against the Soviet supported government of Afghanistan.

Al-Qaeda was alleged to have committed attacks in the U.S. on 9/11 2001. Associating Iraq, which had fought against al-Qaeda inspired groups, with al-Qaeda itself was the second most cited lie used to justify the U.S. war on Iraq.

It is no wonder than that a similar narrative is now suddenly being build with regards to Iran.

David Ignatius, the unofficial CIA spokesman at the Washington Post, was told to publish this nonsense (archived):

But Iran has other means to hit back. One that has received little attention is its relationship with al-Qaeda affiliates. According to former U.S. counterterrorism officials, Tehran has built good relations with the new “de facto” al-Qaeda “emir,” Saif al-Adel, who took over in 2023 after Ayman al-Zawahiri was killed. These former officials say Adel helped manage WMD planning for Osama bin Laden.

The al-Qaeda affiliate in Yemen may pose a special danger. It’s headed by Saad bin Atef al-Awlaki, who posted a chilling video this month threatening U.S. officials. “Go after the scum of the earth and its greatest criminals,” he urged his followers, naming Trump, Vice President JD Vance, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and former DOGE chief Elon Musk. “There are no red lines after all that has been happening to our people in Gaza,” he said. According to the Jerusalem Post, Awlaki urged Muslims in Europe and America to make sure there is “not a single safe place” for Jews.

Who would be those "former U.S. counterterrorism officials"? Mike Pompeo, John Bolton, or some other notorious liars?

Saif al-Adel, the "de facto" never declared leader of Al-Qaeda has since 2001 been rumored to be in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, Egypt and Iran where he allegedly was once under house arrest and later exchanged against Iranian hostages held by al-Qaeda in Yemen.

Over more than two decades the Shia Iran has fought the Sunni al-Qaeda wherever it could. Its operations against Sunni extremist in Iraq and Syria were largely wars against al-Qaeda affiliated forces. In Yemen Iran is allied with the Houthi who are fighting against U.S. supported al-Qaeda aligned groups in the south of the country. A similar situation exists in Lebanon where Iran supported Hizbullah forces have for years feuded against al-Qaeda aligned radicals.

To claim that Iran is now somehow in cahoots with Saif al-Adel, an alleged but never declared leader of a more or less extinct al-Qaeda, is blatant nonsense.

David Ignatius is a much read 'opinion leader'. That he was told to trot out those nonsensical claims is a signal for others to pick up on them.

We can now expect lots of other second rated opinion writers to come up with similar tales.

It is, like the attempt to associated Iran with weapons of mass destruction, a narrative that will be used to further escalate the current regime change war on Iran.

Comments

Fire in Haifa
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131067
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Locals report that a refinery was hit by Iranian missiles in Haifa
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19760
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Israeli firefighters are trying to contain fire at Haifa refinery!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42334

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 20:35 utc | 401

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 14 2025 20:35 utc | 408
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Ben Gurion is locked down by Ansar Allah. Has been for a week or so.
Weapons wouldn’t arrive through a civilian airport.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 20:38 utc | 402

Israel gets weapons sent to it through Lod airport aka Ben Gurion. Why hasn’t Iran bombed it?
Posted by: Georgie | Jun 14 2025 20:35 utc | 408
because Iran is run by the jews?
because all Iran cares about is its oligarchs and doesnt really want to win?
fuck off, sock.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 20:38 utc | 403

🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Israeli firefighters are trying to contain fire at Haifa refinery!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42334
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 20:35 utc | 409
#######
Needs a double tap.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 20:38 utc | 404

Assassinations in Tehran and Yemen attempted, no further report on.
Tehran continues under attack also.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 20:40 utc | 405

“Israeli firefighters are trying to contain fire at Haifa refinery!”
We don’t need no water, let the mothafucka burn, burn, mothafucka,burn …

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 14 2025 20:41 utc | 406

Al-Manor
https://english.almanar.com.lb/
23:33 Israeli media: Fires ignite inside a strategic facility in Haifa
23:23 Israeli media: Defenses fail to intercept Iranian missiles which have targeted power & energy facilities in Haifa
23:16 Iranian missiles hit Haifa, cause fires: Al-Manar reporter
23:15 Sirens sounded in the occupied city of Haifa: Al-Manar reporter
23:11 Zionist media: Iran fires a new wave of ballistic missiles at ‘Israel’
22:48 Iranian missile attacks have killed six Israelis and injured over 500: Zionist media
22:42 Al-Qassam says successfully ambushed IOF units and vehicles in eastern Khan Younis, leaving deaths and injuries
22:13 Trump: Russian president feels just as I do that the Iranian-Israeli war must end
21:57 Iranian defenses have shot down 20 Israeli drones on Saturday: media reports
21:39 Head of the Israeli Civil Aviation Authority: 100,000 Israelis are stranded abroad
21:10 Israeli Broadcasting Authority: ‘Israel’ requests US help
20:58 Israeli media: According to the Home Front Command, gatherings are prohibited, and there will be no activity at schools and workplaces

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 14 2025 20:41 utc | 407

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 14:54 utc | 103
At least LoveDonbass gets the geopolitics, er, the why Israel struck now,
and what was the West’s game plan all along, and, uh, how they’ve done as
much, if not more, than in their wildest dreams (because they knew they
couldn’t get total conquest, not now at this time). Sadly, for ROW, it has worked.
First bog one in battle. Then, while that one is under attack, hit the next. Last,
pick them off one-by-one. It’s as old as the playbook it comes out of.
As I said, sadly the West is winning, or, better, holding the line….for now.

Posted by: jimbo2 | Jun 14 2025 20:42 utc | 408

That there are any functional airports left in Israel is one of the things that makes me wonder about the Iranian thinking.
Posted by: saner | Jun 14 2025 20:40 utc | 414
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Demilitarization and denazification.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 20:42 utc | 409

@ Norwegian | various
Thanks for all these updates. Earlier, when I read about the attack Iranian gas facilities my first thought was that the Haifa refinery would now be in the crosshairs.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 14 2025 20:43 utc | 410

@ Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 20:38 utc | 411
I am not a cursing person or the type to insult someone because of a comment so
I will just quote you.

fuck off, sock.
Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 20:38 utc | 411

fuck off, sock. you too

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 14 2025 20:43 utc | 411

3 power plants
2 refinerys ✅
1 big airport

Posted by: Exile | Jun 14 2025 20:43 utc | 412

Let’s remember, this is only day 2 of Iran’s response. This could go on as long as the SMO.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 20:43 utc | 413

IMHO it was a move born of desperation (ala Kursk) and will not end well for Israel.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Jun 14 2025 19:55 utc | 368
I don’t disagree. I think that Israel has a larger case of “move born of desperation” going on. I think that Israel knows that US hegemony is ending and that it cannot survive as presently situated without its western sponsors. It’s going for Greater Israel while the west still has its back.
That means destroying its enemies “clean break” and “7 countries in 5 years” and purging the local populations. The easiest way to get away with massive ethnic cleansing is a big war with the international community (the west) on your side.

Posted by: team10tim | Jun 14 2025 20:44 utc | 414

“The target of the assassination in Yemen was Mohammed Al-Omari, Chief of Staff”

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 14 2025 20:44 utc | 415

As I said, sadly the West is winning, or, better, holding the line….for now.
Posted by: jimbo2 | Jun 14 2025 20:42 utc | 417
######
Stop drinking. You’re getting silly.
The West is cooked. The F-35 has been exposed. The navy is scared. The munitions running short.
The world outside of the West is rising up. This is the beginning, and Israel is almost dead.
America can’t keep this up for a month.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 20:45 utc | 416

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 20:33 utc | 406
You need the satellite dish, that is really a flat panel, and a dedicated modem.
You need one device for each place that need internet access. You can share the connection.
This devices must be provided by the west.
So mister, how you think you are going to provide internet access to 80+ millions of Iranians or even at a fraction of them?

Posted by: Mario | Jun 14 2025 20:47 utc | 417

RE: “Israel gets weapons sent to it through Lod airport aka Ben Gurion. Why hasn’t Iran bombed it?”
Posted by: Georgie | Jun 14 2025 20:35 utc | 408
And settlers from EU are fleeing back.
Most weapons now are coming through Jordan airport.
USReal not risking weapons in Ben Gurion because of former Houthis. Rerouted awhile ago.
Iran wants settlers to flee.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 14 2025 20:47 utc | 418

Video showing AD and *much* faster incoming + impacts (Haifa)
Wow
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42339
▶️ People rejoice in southern Lebanon as Iranian missiles head towards Israel
https://t.me/presstv/144306
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Another direct impact in the city of Haifa!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42340
—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 NEW: The Israeli strike in Tehran was not an assassination, but a strike on the central fuel depot
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19766
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 WATCH: MULTIPLE fires can be seen burning in Haifa as a result of Iran’s latest ballistic missile barrage
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19767
More Iranian missiles have been spotted flying over Lebanon, Syria and Saudi Arabia, all towards Israel.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131085

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 20:48 utc | 419

@ Posted by: saner | Jun 14 2025 20:40 utc | 414
Right. Its main strength is having air superiority. The airports and bases for jets and drones need to be destroyed completely.

Posted by: Georgie | Jun 14 2025 20:48 utc | 420

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131081

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 14 2025 20:48 utc | 421

‘Delivery to Iran will take some time and is likely to be difficult, if not impossible.’
Published by: Mario | 14 June 2025 19:44 UTC | 360
What delivery? The current incident with Israeli drones in Iran allows even unimaginative observers to draw conclusions, doesn’t it?
https://time.com/6249365/iran-elon-musk-starlink-protests/

Posted by: BlindSpot | Jun 14 2025 20:50 utc | 422

@Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 14 2025 20:43 utc | 419
Clearly, Haifa refinery was a major target now. Note that Haifa is the main port in Occupied Palestine.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 20:51 utc | 423

Millions massing on the streets of Tehran to voice their outrage over USrael’s assault, and to celebrate Iran’s response:

“I wish for even stronger attacks by the Islamic Republic of Iran against the Zionist regime. Last night’s strikes were a balm for our grieving hearts,” a young man standing by his wife said.
A young man, reacting to the Israeli regime’s brutal assaults, said: “For 45 years, we’ve been waiting for Israel to make a move so we could bring its destruction closer and closer.”

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514368/Israelis-in-shelters-Iranians-in-the-streets
Someone will demand of me: How do you know there were millions? The general answer to questions like that: All governments lie, but virtually everything USrael says is a lie. You can bank on the opposite of whatever they say being true, because their very identity is an absurd fiction, and they know it.
In my experience, this contrarian attitude is not applicable to Russia, China, and Iran, whose official communications are generally truthful. Surprisingly truthful, for US Americans accustomed to constant hogwash.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 14 2025 20:53 utc | 424

I wonder what Netanjahu is having for dinner tonight…
https://en.vestikavkaza.ru/upload2/cbig/files/gelstuk_thumb_400.jpg

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 14 2025 20:55 utc | 425

LoveDonbass @ 425
As much as I agree with you here and want to cheer, you have to know the mentality of Americans. I talked to a few today. Might as well be a different species. If they are aware at all anything is happening, they think Israel is kicking Iran’s butt, and the spanking is deserved. They think Iran is a terror state. That anything could imaginably threaten the status quo is just not a thinkable thought.
They are going to support anything and everything Trump can imagine. Even as they march in the streets to tell you how much they hate Trump. None of Trump’s advisors are going to tell him that perhaps circumstances have changed.
To get their attention first you smack them in the face with a 4×4. Then a 6×6. And do not expect they will get the message. They will die before they get the message.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 14 2025 20:56 utc | 426

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131081
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 14 2025 20:48 utc | 430
Ah I see, Slavyangrad opened their channel today for Non-Telegram user. Some very fast missiles incoming.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 14 2025 20:56 utc | 427

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131091

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 14 2025 20:57 utc | 428

So mister, how you think you are going to provide internet access to 80+ millions of Iranians or even at a fraction of them?
Posted by: Mario | Jun 14 2025 20:47 utc | 426
for one, who said he is opening starlink so everyone in Iran can use it?
Everyone in USA is not using it, he did not need millions to get the ukrainians starlink.
for two, if it is to bypass some kind of firewall, then it can be relayed from a single terminal, if necessary.
Please, just stop.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 20:57 utc | 429

@ Apollyon | Jun 14 2025 20:57 utc | 437
what have they hit? looks explosive – gas?

Posted by: james | Jun 14 2025 21:01 utc | 430

see the photo/map at the first link
see the 46-second video at the second link, from the Iranian attack on Haifa tonight
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933960557414993967
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
🇬🇧 HMS Prince of Wales 🇺🇸 USS Carl Vinson & their accompanying destroyers are currently operating in the western Arabian Sea.
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1933989651712487519
Patarames @Pataramesh
Hypersonic speed weapons
Supersonic speed defenses
Who wins?
https://x.com/jalyssaspeaking/status/1931872149200908761
Jalyssa Dugrot @jalyssaspeaking
Things Israel Fears:
– Babies
– Hamas
– Humanitarian Aid
https://x.com/AliAbunimah/status/1932866846765543684
Ali Abunimah @AliAbunimah
🚨Report: Egypt is detaining, deporting and mistreating foreign citizens, especially from France, arriving to take part in the march to break the siege on Gaza. Police are going to their hotels. Relatives back home unable to contact family members in Egypt. France remains silent. This Egyptian complicity and repression sounds very similar to what we experienced during the Gaza Freedom March of 2009 https://blast-info.fr/articles/2025/

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 14 2025 21:02 utc | 431

UWDude @406: “Starlink is direct to satellite internet, through a small dish about 35cm squared, no “access points” needed, no “number of” required.”
You absolutely do need a Starlink terminal to use Starlink. The antenna is just part of the terminal. It is not as if you can shove a coat hanger in your computer’s USB port, hang some aluminum foil off it and get Internet access. Think of it like your cable/fiber/ISDN modem you use for Internet access now, only connecting through satellite “radio” instead of a wire.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:02 utc | 432

chemical plant i guess.

Posted by: james | Jun 14 2025 21:03 utc | 433

what have they hit? looks explosive – gas?
Posted by: james | Jun 14 2025 21:01 utc | 439
Israeli strike on an oil depot in Tehran.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 14 2025 21:03 utc | 434

🇮🇱⚡️🇾🇪 Israeli sources claimed that they attempted to assassinate the Yemeni Chief of Staff, Muhammad Abd Al-Karim Al-Ghamari.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42341
Attempted?
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Something is burning in the northern occupied territories!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42343
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Iranian missiles in the sky of Eilat!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42349
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Too fast!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42350
▶️ Chaos erupts in Israeli settlements upon impact of Iranian missiles
https://t.me/presstv/144310
Tehran has struck an oil refinery in the Israeli city of Haifa, Iranian television has confirmed.
That is the only refinery along with one in Ashdod, in the entire Israel.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131087
SITUATION IN HAIFA RIGHT NOW
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131090
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 MUST WATCH: Closeup of a direct Iranian hypersonic missile impact in Haifa
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19773
🇮🇱💥🇮🇷 Shahran Oil Depot in Tehran on fire after an Israeli strike.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151557
Yemeni sources denying that any of the leadership were killed. Good sign but still in wait and see territory.
https://t.me/CathedralGR/312

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:03 utc | 435

The “why no Israeli airports?” questions are, apart from the fact that airports *have* been targeted, equivalent to the perennial “why no Ukrainian rails/train stations?”. Assuming you believe Russia / Iran are treating this as a serious war (I do, and if you don’t, we will just have nothing to talk about), then you have to accept that someone –trained in such matters– is producing target lists. If *your* favourite target is (seemingly) not on Twitter/Telegram, instead of calling foul, you could think about why.
For the Ukrain train system, we’ve heard a reply back in the day and saw it confirmed recently after the terrorist attack: tracks are surprisingly easy to repair: The Ukrainians exploded the bridge and on the same day, a train was rolling again!

Posted by: Konami | Jun 14 2025 21:04 utc | 436

RE: “America can’t keep this up for a month.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 20:45 utc | 425
Nuttyahoo gave the game away when he cited 2 weeks.
Given UK/France contributions, a month prolly accurate.
It’s not “Americans” keeping it up…so to speak, but Israel would be mostly gone at this rate by a months time, at least of anything militarily and maybe even oil & water.
Iran needs to keep it up, relentlessly. There will be mega political pressure for them to let Israel survive.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Jun 14 2025 21:04 utc | 437

Trump: Russian president feels just as I do that the Iranian-Israeli war must end
He truly has no self-awareness.
Western countries began a coordinated messaging operation centered on “deep concern” with Iran’s alleged nuclear proliferation last Monday. This was meant to legitimize the by-then greenlit Israeli attack. These countries as well have no self-awareness. Macron’s statements yesterday epitomize the talking points.
If things go very bad for Israel, military support from US, UK, and France will become overt. This has likelihood of “internationalizing” the fight, to prevent direct NATO control over the region – a strategic goal which has been previously talked up in 2006/07 (Lebanon) and 2014/15 (Syria).

Posted by: jayc | Jun 14 2025 21:04 utc | 438

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:02 utc | 441
ffs, dont get pedantic with me

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:05 utc | 439

UWDude @406: “Starlink is direct to satellite internet, through a small dish about 35cm squared, no “access points” needed, no “number of” required.”
You absolutely do need a Starlink terminal to use Starlink. The antenna is just part of the terminal. It is not as if you can shove a coat hanger in your computer’s USB port, hang some aluminum foil off it and get Internet access. Think of it like your cable/fiber/ISDN modem you use for Internet access now, only connecting through satellite “radio” instead of a wire.
Doubtless, the Israelis have drones that integrate Starlink terminals, which is why Starlink’s geofencing has been disabled for Iran.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:06 utc | 440

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 14 2025 20:56 utc | 435
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Here is the thing, China has figured out how to deal with Americans. They ignore and move forward.
What Americans think, want, and increasingly demand can safely be disregarded.
Americans don’t matter.
That wasn’t the case 12 months ago but things are moving very quickly.
The American space station is going to fall down. China is working on its 3rd or 7th iteration and plans a lunar colony in a few years.
While everyone was arguing about abortion and gun control, other countries like Iran, Russia, and China were pumping out engineers.
The West has run its course. The end won’t be violent. It will be a whimper.
I am happy to see “No Kings” it should have come after the ’08 crash.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:08 utc | 441

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 14 2025 20:56 utc | 435
I talked to a few [US Americans] today. Might as well be a different species. If they are aware at all anything is happening, they think Israel is kicking Iran’s butt, and the spanking is deserved. They think Iran is a terror state.

What does it matter? In any war, some firebrand patriots will believe in victory till the bitter end. It’s not like the average Joe has anything to say in politics.
Trump has a midterm issue in that he promised ending wars but can’t close shop in Ukraine and is now implicated in Israel. That’s a negative for his faction but nothing that couldn’t be buried in the news cycle — for example with more footage of local riots. He shouldn’t get too many US boys in coffins.
These wars are not about what the random US citizen thinks.

Posted by: Konami | Jun 14 2025 21:10 utc | 442

❗️🇮🇷💥🇮🇱🏴‍☠️ The Iranian missile strike on Israeli territory targeted key energy facilities, the Fars news agency reported.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/155629
IDF announcing a new wave of missiles
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131098
❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 WATCH: Haifa at the start of the Iranian ballistic missile attack
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19774
Warning: Disturbing
—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 Dead Israelis
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19776
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Iranian Hypersonic missile hitting its target in Haifa
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42354

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:12 utc | 443

I am happy to see “No Kings” it should have come after the ’08 crash.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:08 utc | 451
occupy was the real response, and it took three years after.
no king is manufactured outrage. A protest over a military parade?
Less will come of it than occupy, and its fake. Pathetic.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:13 utc | 444

From Slavyangrad Telegram:
Impact of an Iranian hypersonic missile somewhere in Israel (Haifa?):
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131097
I’m a bit confused what language the guy is speaking. Doesn’t sound hebrew to me. Is it arabic? There are about 1.7 million people in Israel who speak arabic.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 14 2025 21:13 utc | 445

The Zionists are trying to kill Al-Houthi and Supreme Leader Khamenei.
So dumb.
That would just create bigger martyrs than Nasrallah.
Zionist’s fatal flaw is psychological. Like narcissists, they believe they are above everyone else. And those hubristic blind spots invite defeat.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:17 utc | 446

“Iranian naval drones” leave the British navy contemplating their navels, while turning around…

TEHRAN – The Iranian Navy announced that it stopped a British destroyer in the Sea of Oman after the vessel entered the region to assist the Zionist regime in guiding missile strikes toward Iranian territory…
“The vessel was prevented from continuing toward the Persian Gulf following clear and direct warnings issued by Iranian naval drones,” the statement said. “Thanks to the timely vigilance of our intelligence systems, the destroyer was identified, tracked, and ultimately forced to change course.”

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/514373/Iranian-Navy-prevents-British-warship-from-entering-Persian-Gulf

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 14 2025 21:18 utc | 447

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:13 utc | 454
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I’m talking about the assassinations. Occupy was astroturf. No Kings has a hard edge. The kind that can spark civil war.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:19 utc | 448

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:17 utc | 456
Live Nasrallah more powerful than martyr nasrallah.
Ayatollah dead? Could be trouble.
Al Houthi dead? Again, rather living than martyr, but Houthis are solid.
Not so sure about Iran.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:20 utc | 449

oldhippie | Jun 14 2025 20:56 utc | 435
They will die before they get the message.

But isn’t that always the case? New ideas do not become accepted due to convincing arguments, but rather simply because the old die off while successive generations grow up in new realities.
My oldest is gen Z – he’s peripherally involved in Darpa AI through his work at a major research university. His goal is to become a made member in the MIC not due to allegience but rather simple expediency.

Posted by: Markw | Jun 14 2025 21:21 utc | 450

Occupy was astroturf. No Kings has a hard edge.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:19 utc | 459
You got that backwards.
And “no kings” spark civil war?
Ridiculous.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:21 utc | 451

Israelis will soon run out of both interceptors and diapers. May Allah Guide and Protect Iran.

https://x.com/mamashami2/status/1933997720118694080

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:23 utc | 452

I want to expand the comments that note the deaths of scientists and other officials in Iran — to include for many of them the deaths of their entire families and also in some cases an entire apartment block. This would have been importantly painful for those reporting there – that they were targeted, families and friends included.

Posted by: juliania | Jun 14 2025 21:24 utc | 453

UWDude @454:

no king is manufactured outrage. A protest over a military parade?
Less will come of it than occupy, and its fake. Pathetic.

Exactly. Check your favorite online news aggregators (ex:Google News). The “kings” managed events are dominating the headlines and the Iranian responses to the zionist attacks are getting barely a mention. A person’s brain has to be really impaired by TDS to take the media-promoted astroturf events seriously.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:24 utc | 454

I am open to explanation.
Posted by: saner | Jun 14 2025 21:19 utc | 458
then why did you not adress what konami said?
airports are easier to repair than you think. They are giant slabs of asphalt and tarmac. Holes can be repaired in hours, as the planes are maintained.
You want iran to waste 3000 mile missiles on $10000 worth of asphalt?
You want Iran to waste a weapon that took thousands of man hours to manufacture, to inconvenience the Israelis for a few hours and a hundred man hours at most?

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:27 utc | 455

No Kings has already generated 2 assassinations and a 3rd attempt.
Does no one watch the news in OnlyFansLand?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:29 utc | 456

LoveTDS @459: “Occupy was astroturf. No Kings has a hard edge.”
Now there is no question the poster is a paid troll. This is way beyond TDS. There is no way anyone could honestly invert reality in this manner.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:30 utc | 457

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131104

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 14 2025 21:32 utc | 458

🇮🇷⚔️🇮🇱 The skies over Israel are currently clear of Iranian missiles, but further launches are highly likely.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151560
🇮🇱⚡️⚡️Ronen Bar, head of Israel’s Shin Bet, just resigned.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42360
Prof Seyed Mohammad Marandi fires at lying media
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131102
🇮🇱/🇮🇷 More footage of the impacts in Haifa
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131103
Israeli Air Defense seems to have left the chat.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131104
Source: IRGC used Emad, Qadr and Kheibar-Shekan missiles in attacks on Haifa
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42363
Haifa is the 2nd most imp city of Israel. It is the biggest port of Israel. Several infrastructures of Israel are located in this city. Tonight Iran has decided to hit Haifa may be because Israel attacked Iranian southern ports & infrastructures today.
https://x.com/SarbazRezvi/status/1933995882833121507

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:35 utc | 459

How many Israelis will simply give up and abandon the country is speculative. To some extent it will happen.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 14 2025 19:19 utc | 339
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Curious as to where they will go.
Maybe to Russia, or South Africa?
To farm? (/SN/)
Re those who join their friendds and relatives in the West, it would be verrrry interesting to see how they are received in their new synagogues/temples. I think that would provide a lot of useful insights about the stance of US diaspora Jews toward Israel and the genocide.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 21:36 utc | 460

🇮🇷⚡️ Iranian “True Promise 3” Operation Update
Zionist counterattack failures during retaliation:
1️⃣ Failed Yemen Assassination Attempt:
Target: Ansarullah General Staff leadership
Result: Complete operational failure
2️⃣ Desperate Tehran Oil Depot Strike:
Damage: Minor (facilities operational)
Status: Fully contained
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42364

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:37 utc | 461

Sky News interview with Prof. Seyed Mohammad (short clip).
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/131102

Posted by: NoName | Jun 14 2025 21:39 utc | 462

—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 NEW: Fars News, citing informed sources, says that the attack on Haifa and the attacks on Tel Aviv were carried out with Emad, Qadr and Kheybar Shekan missiles — no hypersonics and no truly ‘heavy’ warheads
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19784
These are mostly old (except Kheybar Shekan) and quite inaccurate.
There is MUCH more in store.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19785

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:40 utc | 463

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:30 utc | 468
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Stop looking at GatewayPundit and find out what is happening in your country.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:41 utc | 464

Jane @471: “Curious as to where [the zionists] will go.”.
Back to New Jersey.
Let’s see how their ethnic cleansing goes in Newark.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:41 utc | 465

@ love
Bad take vis a vis protests.
Occupy was dirty. People were camping in the streets. There was skin in the game.
This looks like a ginned-up distraction.
For a Prez that has deported far fewer illegals than any of the proceeding presidents. And he has capitulated on hotel and ag workers and wants more h-1-pajeets and Chinese.
Pure political theater.
I am sure these people are gonna catch a Rage Against the Machine concert after sponsored by Bank of America.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 14 2025 21:43 utc | 466

Iran got a THAAD. They are expensive and rare, and ineffective, like most American weaponry.
We’re watching the death of Israel and the death of America’s martial mythology.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:43 utc | 467

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Jun 14 2025 21:43 utc | 477
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Tell that to the dead State Senator and her husband in Minnesota.
This is kinda great. You guys don’t even see your country unravelling before your eyes. LOL

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:44 utc | 468

LoveTDS @475
Stop getting your “protest” invites from the New York Langley Times.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:44 utc | 469

Desperate Tehran Oil Depot Strike:
Damage: Minor (facilities operational)
Status: Fully contained
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42364
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:37 utc | 472
Fully contained? Judging from the size of the fire that notion is probably bullshit.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 14 2025 21:44 utc | 470

“Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb, very simple. Regardless—Israel or not Israel—Iran cannot have a nuclear bomb,” Trump told me.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/06/trump-interview-iran-israel/683192/
Posted by: JB | Jun 14 2025 20:26 utc | 400
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This mantra, or formula, could be interpreted as damaged control:
“Look, it’s very simple . . . All we want . . . Perfectly reasonable . . . ”
Like the “No Kings” idiots in the USA that don’t understand, or want to understand, basic constitutional principles and the concept of separation of powers, Trump pretends not to understand, or does not understand, any of the basic concepts of international law, diplomacy, negotiation, or anything else.
Both varieties of stupidity are funded by Zionists/Israel Lobby/Neocons/Jewish oligarchs.

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 21:44 utc | 471

New footage of Iran missile strike on Israel
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42365
Wow, look at this!
It’s definitely hypersonic
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42367
🇮🇱🇾🇪⚡️Russia Today reported, quoting Abdullah al-Houthi, a senior member of Ansarullah, that the Zionist regime’s operation to assassinate Muhammad Abdul Karim al-Ghammari failed.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42368

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:48 utc | 472

“Tell that to the dead State Senator and her husband in Minnesota.”
The price to give astroturf “protest” events the appearance of legitimacy, or at least obfuscate how fake they are.
If the poster were not a fraud they would admit and acknowledge that killings are a key par of color revolution attempts.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:49 utc | 473

@Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:48 utc | 484
RezistanceTrench is not open for Non-Telegram user.
But at the moment few other are, for example: DDGeopolitics, Intelslava, Slavyangrad

Posted by: NoName | Jun 14 2025 21:51 utc | 474

Posted by: Jane | Jun 14 2025 21:44 utc | 482
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What you and several others do not understand, my dear vicious princess, is that power doesn’t care about Constitutions.
It doesn’t care about elections or consent.
It is ironic that after brutally colonizing so many others, now Americans are being colonized by the state that they worship. The next soft people to exploit. You guys are so f’d up, you disbelieve attempts to save yourselves. Your minds have been so twisted that you would rather drown than climb out of the water and you will punch anyone who offers a life preserver.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:51 utc | 475

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:49 utc | 485
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Who would wage a color revolution against Trump?
He’s delusional and failing. They would love to keep him in place. He’s maintained the foreign policy status quo and has been unable to move any domestic policies.
The perfect captain for a boat swirling the drain.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:53 utc | 476

@NoName | Jun 14 2025 21:51 utc | 486
Understand. I provide links. What barflies do is up to them.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:53 utc | 477

Addendum to my 485 above
Yes, I am saying that LoveTDS’ “team” killed the senator to help cover for the obvious fakeness of their mass media manufactured “protest” events.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:55 utc | 478

What if this war will lead to regime changes in Bahrain or Jordan, instead of Iran.

Posted by: Peter Schmidt | Jun 14 2025 21:55 utc | 479

Posted by: saner | Jun 14 2025 21:45 utc | 483
his whole post.
1) flight operation.. ..for a time…
as long as it takes to make one of these missiles? not even
airports are huge. you are talking about wasting missiles on the chance they pass AD, and accurately hit… fuel storage? cheap. Service vehicles (those move), planes, (those move too), instead of immobile, high value targets, all for an extra “might hit”..
you ever play games of chance? You ever think about launchinng a rocket from your house to the nearest gas station, hoping to hit pump 5? How hard that actually is?
its a waste of firepower.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 21:57 utc | 480

“Who would wage a color revolution against Trump?”
Thief: “Stop! Thief!”
You would, TDS victim. You would.
Or rather, you are trying.
Good luck with that.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:57 utc | 481

🇮🇷🇮🇱 Iran says it will escalate attacks on Israel and promises to end Netanyahu’s government.

Too bad Bibi will be on the beach when it happens.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 21:57 utc | 482

Understand. I provide links. What barflies do is up to them.
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 21:53 utc | 489
No problem. Thanks for your inputs and greetings to Norway. I visited it once in the nineties and liked it very much.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 14 2025 21:58 utc | 483

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:55 utc | 490
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I am not American. I love America. It is endless entertainment watching Americans like you use conspiracy fantasies as defense mechanisms.
Feel bad about arguing with you. It’s like beating a grandpa on Thorazine at chess.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 22:00 utc | 484

UWDude @492 <-- Absolutely correct. Unless you are using nuke warheads, targeting airports with anything short of carpet bombing from big strategic bombers just results in a little inconvenience.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 22:01 utc | 485

@norwegian
Ronen Bar resigned in April, effective 15 June … a deputy is appointed for a one month interim …
https://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-appoints-shin-bet-deputy-as-acting-chief-ag-signs-off-on-one-month-tenure/

Posted by: Oui | Jun 14 2025 22:01 utc | 486

Unofficial from Israeli sources: The head of the Shin Bet (Israeli Ministry of Internal Security) was killed in tonight’s attack.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/42374
That may be the reason why he resigned (ref post above Jun 14 2025 21:35 utc)

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 22:01 utc | 487

The “No Kings” protest in my city was organized by Democrat-adjacent liberals but grew out of their control. 1700 or so attendees, which is a massive turnout for here, between 1.5-2% of the city population. The socialist organization I belong to was asked to attend as marshals because the protest organizers had no idea what to do (this is their first rodeo, and in their defense, they aren’t connected in any formal way to the Democrats, these are just Democrat voters). I wouldn’t count them out as some kind of managed or controlled opposition. It’s an expression of a really radical discontent with the status quo, something the United States has needed for years.

Posted by: fnord | Jun 14 2025 22:03 utc | 488

alright LoveDonbass
Ban bet
if No Kings ends by next Friday, and no civil war starts because of it, you no longer post here for a month
If No Kings protests are still going on with more than 100 protestors in any city on Saturday, I will not post here for a month.
Back up your stupidity, or admit there will be no civil war because of No Kings, and you know it

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:03 utc | 489

“I am not American.”
And I am a Black transgender lesbian.
See? We’re the same.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 22:03 utc | 490

Iranian Army says it shot down another F-35 fighter jet

Posted by: Oui | Jun 14 2025 22:04 utc | 491

@NoName | Jun 14 2025 21:58 utc | 495
Thanks! Despite people like Stoltenberg there are still nice places here.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 22:04 utc | 492

Posted by: Scottindallas | Jun 14 2025 20:21 utc | 397 Can’t see Algeria as very relevant, not least because Algeria wasn’t an air war. I still insist that history shows strategic air doesn’t win wars. The pieds-noirs in Algeria had some place to go, many, maybe most citizens of the enterprise do not. The metropolitan French government had hundreds of thousands of troops tied down for year. And even then DeGaulle had to write the constitution for the Fifth Republic to even be able to end the war.
Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 14 2025 21:24 utc | 465 Whoever is promoting the No Kings slogan is probably trying to derail a grass roots movement, which seems to be largely about resistance to the overreach and brutality of ICE. Astroturf is not as much about creating an illusion of a movement as about trying to make sure it’s contained. BLM proper, the national organization, was about coopting a surge of revulsion against police murder. The talk about news aggregators is an effort to falsely claim that No Kings isn’t being minimized, rather than promoted. There are thousands of demos and so far as I can tell, local media—which is still media contra this online fool—still matters. The local media I’ve seen are not promoting the parade, but refusing to, thus giving the lie to the claim No Kings was about the parade and nothing else. Trump cultists who want state violence against real people for imaginary invasions and whole cities burning are simply parroting the program. Right-wing media so far as I know are dutifully promoting the parade, on message. Further, the comparison to coverage of Iran’s side is absurd irrelevant. Promoting coverage of the Zionist simultaneous victory and martyrdom is supporting Trump and his cult.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 14 2025 22:04 utc | 493

thats next Saturday, of course, as in, I say No Kings does not last more than a week, and certainly will not cause civil war

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:04 utc | 494

Interesting observation. Looks like a hypersonic missile took out the power in Haifa
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 WATCH: The single hypersonic missile that impacted Haifa — after impact, there is an immediate power outage
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19788

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 14 2025 22:11 utc | 495

Any truth to the claim that Pakistan declared that if Israel nukes Iran, Pakistan will nuke Israel?
It also said it would fight against US and French forces should they join the attack.

Posted by: David | Jun 14 2025 22:13 utc | 496

Posted by: steven t johnson | Jun 14 2025 22:04 utc | 505
bullshit.
I just checked, and local news is covering and promoting No Kings, even reporting about where they are gathering and how to get involved.
And on reddit, nobody is talking about Iran, its all “No Kings” and Padilla tossed from Noem’s news conference
ie typical day for the two minutes hate machine.

Posted by: UWDude | Jun 14 2025 22:13 utc | 497

@LoveDonbass re: revolution – No Kings is a ‘colored-in’ revolution. Even if it were authentic, it is not the kind of movement you should cheer.

Posted by: thomasjkenney | Jun 14 2025 22:14 utc | 498

see the 22-second video at the first link
see the 41-second video at the second link
see the 7-second video at the third link
https://t.me/intelslava/75991
Intel Slava
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 WATCH: Closeup of a direct Iranian hypersonic missile impact in Haifa
https://t.me/intelslava/75990
Intel Slava
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 MUST WATCH: Very clear video of Iranian ballistics impacting Haifa
https://x.com/mamashami2/status/1933997720118694080
Mohamad Al Shami محمد الشامي @mamashami2
Israelis will soon run out of both interceptors and diapers. May Allah Guide and Protect Iran.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 14 2025 22:14 utc | 499

like beating a grandpa on Thorazine at chess.
@ LoveDonbass | Jun 14 2025 22:00 utc | 496

Are digressions into the political legitimacy of No Kings & Occupy demonstrations OT in here, or is nothing OT anymore? Because reviewing MoA seems like watching a rec-room full of tardive dyskinesia* lately. (And I’ve actually done so, back in the day: working as a psychiatric nursing assistant.)

* Tardive dyskinesia is a movement disorder characterized by involuntary, repetitive body movements, often as a side effect of long-term use of certain medications, particularly antipsychotics. Symptoms can include grimacing, lip-smacking, and uncontrolled movements of the limbs and face.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Jun 14 2025 22:15 utc | 500