Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 13, 2025
Iran Could Use Oil To Urge The U.S. To Sue For Peace

The primary targets of Israel's attack on Iran do not seem to be nuclear research and production facilities. People in the top positions of Iran's military forces, top scientists of Iran's nuclear program and political leaders seem to have been the primary aim.

Two dozen high ranking officers, including the chief of the General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, General Mohammad Bagheri, and the commander of the IRGC’s Aerospace Force, Amir-Ali Hajizadeh, were killed in targeted attacks. Several leading scientist were killed over night when Israel bombed the civilian buildings they were living in.

Iran's main nuclear enrichment facilities are buried underground near Natanz and Fordow. Satellite images show only light damage on above ground facilities in Natanz. Fordow seems to have not been attacked at all. There were attacks on some of Iran's ballistic missile facilities. There are no reports yet of the level of damage they received.

Curiously there were no signs of any active air defenses. Israel seems to have disabled them by other means than open warfare.

Israeli sources claimed that Iran had retaliated by launching a hundred drones against Israel. There were however no observations of any drone. Iranian sources say that none had been launched (yet).

The attacks so far seem to be aimed more at regime change than on nuclear facilities. The few strikes on nuclear infrastructure are just enough for Israel to claim this as an act of preemptive self-defense.

A preemptive self defense is legal under international law. But it requires that the threat is "instant", "overwhelming" and "imminent" leaving "no time for deliberation". None of these conditions existed when Israel launched its attack. The war it launched is thus an act of aggression and illegal under international law.

Israel has planned for the campaign to continued for at least two weeks:

Israel's operation against Iran's nuclear program, military leadership and arsenal of missiles is nowhere near over, with Israel having planned out 14 days of operations, a senior Israeli official said.

The likely duration of the campaign fits with analysts' expectations that a single wave of strikes wouldn't be able to do enough damage to Iran's nuclear program and Israel's comprehensive approach of attacking Iran's facilities, leadership and arsenal at the same time to limit the possibility of a retaliatory strike.

The pattern is similar to the one Israel deployed against Lebanese militia and Iranian ally Hezbollah—decapitating its leadership, degrading its arsenal and pushing it to a settlement. The current conflict could similarly end in a negotiated deal, the official said.

Iran has only two viable ways to respond to the attack. One is, as Scott Ritter lays out, an overwhelming destructive strike on Israel itself. This must be sufficiently hard for Israel that it will ask the U.S. to negotiate an end to the war. This would however risk nuclear strikes by Israel on Iran.

Another potential is to retaliated against the power behind Israel which conspired with it to launch the attack. There are U.S. targets in the Middle East which Iran could easily strike at. But the response from the U.S. would be an air and missile war that would overwhelm any defenses Iran has left.

A more reasonable attack on the U.S. will target its economy. Iran can stop its production of oil. It has various means to stop oil and gas production in U.S. allied countries situated in its neighborhood. It can close down the Strait of Hormuz through which 25% of the global hydrocarbon productions is flowing. There is the little the U.S. could do to prevent Iran from sustaining such a blockade.

As I have stated previously:

Trump wants lower oil prices and freedom to pursue his domestic agenda. 

A few month of oil prices above $200 per barrel would devastated the chances for Republicans to keep the House and the Senate. It would ruin Trump's presidency. The would turn the world against Israel. Trump would be forced to sue for peace with Iran.

There would be strong collateral damage in the global economy. Iran would be blamed for it. But everyone would also know that it was not Iran or its leader who started this.

Comments

Posted by: WJ | Jun 13 2025 19:20 utc | 193
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The revolution is not scared to die. They are scared not to die on their feet.
Nukes scare godless materialists.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:23 utc | 201

So nearly 700 posts in the earlier thread, mainly the shrill shrieking of shills, yet not one of them asked the pertinent question about USrael’s “triumphant” strike on Iran:
“But at what cost?”
Looks as if the first instalment invoice is now arriving.
Remember, war is not a one and done transaction, it is a subscription service.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 13 2025 19:24 utc | 202

🔘There is information about the strike on an Israeli nuclear facility in the city of Dimona as a result of an Iranian attack, said Alexander Bilibov, a Middle East correspondent for VGTRK, on the air of “Russia 24.”
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/42505
Iranian missile submarines joined the chat.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130694
🇮🇱⚔️🇮🇷 Israeli jets are reportedly airborne, we can expect strikes on Iran again.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151288
“Israeli officials told Channel 13:
“Unprecedented destruction in the greater Tel Aviv area, the likes of which we have never seen before. Dozens of buildings and vehicles were hit by Iranian or interceptor missiles”.
https://t.me/Reality_Theories/26285
🇮🇷💥🇮🇱 Iran’s strike on Israel is presumably over.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151286
🇮🇱 The Israeli military denies reports of a fighter jet shot down over Iran and an Israeli pilot captured.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151290

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:25 utc | 203

@ Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:14 utc | 183
thanks tom.. i am reluctant, lol…
@ Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:18 utc | 190
thanks so much! i am going to run it by my it friend and see what he says.. i am on ubuntu..
@ michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 19:05 utc | 171
thanks michael!

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 19:25 utc | 204

norwegian your t.gm links only lead to more links

Posted by: drinky crow | Jun 13 2025 19:26 utc | 205

Republicofscotland posted this, but you have to go to the 2nd video and watch ALL THE WAY through.
https://nitter.poast.org/IranObserver0
Israeli anti-missile battery fires off it’s initially fast looking salvo…but wait….keep watching. Hypersonic or otherwise really fast moving missile comes in anyway and BLAM!

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:27 utc | 206

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:21 utc | 194
Indeed and showing the captured Zionazi pilot will add to that effect. The Arabs should get rid of their client regimes.

Posted by: xor | Jun 13 2025 19:27 utc | 207

@james | Jun 13 2025 19:25 utc | 204
Ubuntu is good I am on Kubuntu
$ sudo snap install telegram-desktop

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:29 utc | 208

Nukes scare godless materialists.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:23 utc | 201

I am a godless materialist and I am not scared.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 13 2025 19:29 utc | 209

Iran has launched several waves of missiles and Israel taking hits. I guess this will remain fairly constant for a while.
The initial strike by Israel, knocking out some airdefence from the inside to give them a gap – I guess Israel wont get that chance again.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Jun 13 2025 19:29 utc | 210

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:23 utc | 200
The West has been sponsoring a literal genocide for months now and nobody cares. Dropping a few nukes on Iran will easily be justified. Just you wait.
Look, I hate Israel and the US empire as much as anybody on here, but a lot of you posters are way too giddy and optimistic about the way things have been going in West Asia over the past few years: Israel defeated Hezbollah, Syria, is genociding Palestine, and now is going after Iran. The aim of this war is to destroy the country of Iran. They will do that unless Iran destroys them first, and Iran has not impressed with its military prowess: failure adequately to back Hezbollah; failure to support Assad; total intelligence failure/corruption/infiltration regarding Israel’s first strike.
Do you think Israel gives a shit about its popularity around the world so long as it has the US blocking every UN security council measure, feeding it endless arms and money? It doesn’t. Israel will happily escalate this war until they “have” to use nukes, and we will enable them the whole way.
And the same thing Israel and the US is doing to Iran, they–primarily the US–will do to Russia. There is no stopping these people.

Posted by: WJ | Jun 13 2025 19:30 utc | 211

Iran can do selective shutdown of the Straits of Hormuz, similar to what the Yemenis do in the Red Sea:
a. Take out a few early transgressors, so shipping rates go up enough to keep the ships out voluntarily
b. Announce that some ships can pass safely. Depends on whether they’re complicit in US/Israeli attacks, etc.
If the U.S. elects to interdict ships on the high seas, they earn the joy from the country the cargo was bound for, e.g. China. China, for its part, could provide military escorts for tanker convoys headed to China.
China might say: “Do you really want to sink our ships? We know how to sink ships, too. And yes, we do have submarines with torpedoes, just like you do. In fact, if you consult your sonar display, you’ll see one drifting a few thousand meters off your stern.”
This is, actually, a key developmental moment for China. The first really major “speed bump” in China’s “peaceful rise”. Wonder how they’ll react to the requirement to fight for their place at the table.
==== Separately … a question for the Bar:
Refueling jets via tanker is a tricky business; the tankers are big, slow, easy to spot, and they blow up spectacularly. Tankers have to be stationed somewhere near where a bomber would run low on gas. It’s somewhat predictable.
If you know an attack is coming, and where-from … and you know where the tanker has to be … I’m thinking I would station some ground-to-air missiles, or some of my fighters somewhere in that vicinity, and take out a few of those tankers. There isn’t an unlimited supply of them, and they are a key component of long-distance attack.
Can the Bar explain why those tankers don’t seem to get shot down?

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 13 2025 19:30 utc | 212

Iranian missile submarines joined the chat.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130694
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:25 utc | 203
I bet nobody factored the Iranian missile subs into their calculations.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 19:31 utc | 213

@drinky crow | Jun 13 2025 19:26 utc | 205
Some of the links require Telegram Desktop for PC installed, but not all

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:31 utc | 214

Posted by: drinky crow | Jun 13 2025 19:26 utc | 205
He simply sources the posts he cites.
The links lead to telegram channels that might or might not be readable without telegram account.
Either way, the DDG links, for example, work just fine with FireFox.

Posted by: kspr | Jun 13 2025 19:31 utc | 215

Respect to MIGHTY Iran and Yemen! the only 2 nations and people to stand up and REALLY stick it to the EVIL Empire of Lies! Israel, US, UK, EU. and unfortunately Russia.

Posted by: ToB | Jun 13 2025 19:31 utc | 216

Posted by: WJ | Jun 13 2025 19:30 utc | 211
I don’t disagree with much of that, except I’m not giddy, and “Israel” didn’t defeat Assad/Syria. That was the end result of a LONG campaign of MANY western ziofascist compliant governments and a protracted civil war compounded by an also-western sponsored genocide and game changing (see Cory Doctorow’s post about post-911 security theater) Hezbollah pager attack (spoiler: none of us are safe at home or airports now).
Regardless, yes I agree with you in spirit. But let’s just wait to see how this plays out. Neither Ansar Allah or the Iranians are pussy westerners who’ll lay down and die on command, and the Russians and Chinese aren’t either. Not time to give up hope.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:34 utc | 217

@ snake | Jun 13 2025 19:19 utc | 191
thanks for the link.. i am sure more then a few folks have wondered if there is any connection.. hard to know.. dramatic speculation though.

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 19:34 utc | 218

@ Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:29 utc | 208
thanks..just tried that and i get this – $: command not found
i will look around..

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 19:36 utc | 219

it i so funny to see all you circle jerkers, Hamas asslickers and Iran-gives-a-fuck-about-human-rights lovers are raging , haha.
Posted by: bigbrother | Jun 13 2025 19:31 utc | 215
Shouldn’t you be hiding in a bunker in Tel Aviv right now, Shlomo?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 19:37 utc | 220

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:29 utc | 208
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I am on Ubuntu
Don’t use Telegram much, but the client is solid.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:38 utc | 221

Shouldn’t you be hiding in a bunker in Tel Aviv right now, Shlomo?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 19:37 utc | 222
She/Hers is. Sharing a bunker carveout cell with other gender fluid Israeli IOF rats. Her internet provided by Elon Musk and Starlink. For now.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:38 utc | 222

@ Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:29 utc | 208
working now.. thanks for that!

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 19:39 utc | 223

Posted by: too scents | Jun 13 2025 19:29 utc | 209
#########
And that is why I love you.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:39 utc | 224

The response is the usual:
Blathering at the UN about intolerable attacks, and accountability and blah blah blah. All the while tolerating everything that the illegal occupying entity and it’s western backers concoct.
And, as usual a limp and weak ‘response’ from Iran.
It’s almost like the ENTIRE WORLD is a captured zionist operation…

Posted by: RP | Jun 13 2025 19:39 utc | 225

Iran-gives-a-fuck-about-human-rights lovers are raging , haha.
Posted by: bigbrother | Jun 13 2025 19:31 utc | 215
Then find us a Wastern or Jew dominated government that does and maybe then we can have a conversation. We’ll wait.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:40 utc | 226

Iran Observer (& vid)
https://x.com/IranObserver0/status/19333592280595902712
Moments of ARRIVALS in Tel Aviv!

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 13 2025 19:40 utc | 227

Iran’s Foreign Ministry said Iran “rejects proposals to refrain from retaliatory measures against Israel.”
They already did twice in the past and look where it got them.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130698
—❗️🇮🇷/🇺🇸 NEW: The U.S. is trying to convince Iran to return to the nuclear talks
Iran replied that there is no question of talks, and the war has already begun.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19574
🇺🇳🇮🇷🇮🇱 UN Security Council emergency meeting begins on Israel-Iran war.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41964
🗣️The dangerous escalation in the Middle East is due to Israel’s actions, stated Russia’s UN Permanent Representative Vasily Nebenzya.
Israel’s attack on Iran is pushing the region toward a “large-scale nuclear catastrophe.” Russia, he emphasized, strongly condemns this attack.
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/42514

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:40 utc | 228

Iran needs to keep this up for the 14 days Bibi said he would be attacking Iran.
Should be long enough to wipe out everything military/industrial in Israel. And if thousands of ‘innocent’ Israelis get killed, too bad. They must have been shielding legitimate targets like Israel claims of Gazans. Israel set that standard, so they can live(die) with it.

Posted by: saner | Jun 13 2025 19:40 utc | 229

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 13 2025 19:40 utc | 229
Broken X link.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:41 utc | 230

@ james | Jun 13 2025 19:36 utc | 221
$ is the terminal prompt, don’t type it
You need the app on the phone first

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:41 utc | 231

see the 42-second video at the first link.
holy shit, look at all those incoming missiles, and apparently no israel air defenses. impressive. the zioinst scoundrels are getting blasted in haifa
see the 3-second video at the second link
see the 34-second video at the third link
see the 19-second video at the fourth link
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933599513584812064
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
⚡️Multiple Iranian Ballistic Missiles making impact in the Haifa area.
https://x.com/AryJeay/status/1933592674365305125
Arya – آریا @AryJeay
‼️🇮🇷🇮🇱| ANOTHER WAVE OF MISSILES INCOMING from Iran
So far 7 confirmed impacts
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933598630998409402
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
Better angle, footage of the moment Israeli Defense Ministry Headquarters were hit by Iranian Ballistic Missile.
https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1933601644790378552
War Monitor @WarMonitors
⚡️ The moment Iran targeted the Israeli Ministry of Defense headquarters in Tel Aviv as part of the first salvo.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 19:42 utc | 232

Can all Barflies please spare a thought for poor little queen Ursula, who won’t be able to have a Russian oil price cap , if Hormuz is shut. Poor noble Ursula…

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Jun 13 2025 19:42 utc | 233

So, Hitler had a point after all.
We can take the history we have been told and throw it in the toilet.

Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 13 2025 19:43 utc | 234

By the way, apparently Bibi is having a phone call with Trump from Cyprus or whatever his wretched ass is currently hiding.
What will the Orange Fleshbag of Flatulence post on his shitty social media site I wonder, or will his decript incontinent self make a public appearance to talk utter BS?
Bye-the-bye what does the bar think is a good nickname for Bibi?
Bugout Bibi, Bitch Bibi, No-Nuts Netanyahu…

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 19:43 utc | 235

@ Tom Pfotzer | Jun 13 2025 19:30 utc | 212
Because they’re kept well out of range. It isn’t always the case that the strike aircraft will take off with a full load of fuel and weapons, some will take off with only a partial fuel load and rendezvous with the tanker at a point well away from the known location of ground to air systems.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 13 2025 19:44 utc | 236

And, as usual a limp and weak ‘response’ from Iran.
Posted by: RP | Jun 13 2025 19:39 utc | 227
Late to the party, I see. Check out Norwegian’s telegram links.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 19:45 utc | 237

michaelj72
BROKEN link: https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933599513584812064
MenchOsint @MenchOsint

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:46 utc | 238

#229 Corrected:
https://x.com/IranObserver0/status/1933592280595902712
Moments of Arrivals in Tel Aviv

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 13 2025 19:46 utc | 239

Looks like the submarine missile claim was false
Iran did not launch missiles from submarines, Iran does not even have missile subs.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19578

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:46 utc | 240

A report by Saudia Arabia news said that Iran depleted a signficant amount of its ballistic missle aresenal (500 out of 3000) on this attack.

Posted by: Deniz | Jun 13 2025 19:47 utc | 241

Posted by: joe911 | Jun 13 2025 19:44 utc | 239
And YOU faggots offer drive by burnt offerings and anonymous pussy bullshit.
I’ll stick with my faggot homies here for the time being.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:47 utc | 242

Nothing unites people more than watching Tel Aviv get bombed
Posted by: LoveDonbass
It is oddly satisfying to watch an Iranian supersonic missile hit the capital of the Zionist entity. 🙂

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 19:48 utc | 243

Posted by: Deniz | Jun 13 2025 19:47 utc | 244
Don’t worry. Iran will do with shovels and some chips robbed, just as Russian did.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 13 2025 19:48 utc | 244

Iran did not launch missiles from submarines, Iran does not even have missile subs.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19578
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:46 utc | 243
Had to be a frigate then.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 19:49 utc | 245

If Iran could completely destroy Israel’s military capability that would end the genocide, the attacks on Lebanon, the attacks in Syria and the overall danger to the region, at least for a while.
It has a full right to do so. If it can, it should.
Most decent people on the planet would be grateful.

Posted by: JB | Jun 13 2025 19:50 utc | 246

I know the bulk of the bar is rooting for Iran but let’s cool it with the homophobic remarks.

Posted by: fnord | Jun 13 2025 19:50 utc | 247

A report by Saudia Arabia news said that Iran depleted a signficant amount …
Posted by: Deniz | Jun 13 2025 19:47 utc | 244
I wouldn’t believe anything from those donkeys.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 19:51 utc | 248

Al-Jazeera showed a clip of what looked like an extremely fast “arrival”, followed shortly after by some kind of interceptor projectile launching and ascending the trajectory of what had just arrived, eventually to expire in a meaningless spark.
Gotta love firing solutions that are calculated too late to be any use.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 13 2025 19:51 utc | 249

A report by Saudia Arabia news said that Iran depleted a signficant amount of its ballistic missle aresenal (500 out of 3000) on this attack.
Posted by: Deniz | Jun 13 2025 19:47 utc | 244
—————
Meh, don’t trust em, because Saudi media obviously. So double that total to 6000 at least.
Besides Iran also has drones. Which would be expensive to keep shooting down in the current Israeli/NATO manner.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 19:52 utc | 250

People are celebrating in Gaza as they watch the missiles fall.
That must be such a huge morale boost.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:52 utc | 251

“Israel will respond to the Iranian bombing against Israeli civilian areas by the Israeli Air Force targeting civilian areas in Iran,” – Channel 12

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 13 2025 19:53 utc | 252

– Indeed, the name of the operation (“Rising Lion”) does seem to signal that Israel has intentions to execute longer bombing campaign.
– Iran does not work on a nuclear bomb but wants to keep enriching and keep the enriching of uranium and other nuclear materials.

Posted by: WMG | Jun 13 2025 19:53 utc | 253

Posted by: joe911 | Jun 13 2025 19:44 utc | 239
And YOU faggots offer drive by burnt offerings and anonymous pussy bullshit.
I’ll stick with my faggot homies here for the time being.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:47 utc | 245
I understand why you did reply to him, but it is basically useless to respond to handicaped village idiots.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 13 2025 19:53 utc | 254

@ Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:41 utc | 233
thanks.. i see that and that now..

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 19:54 utc | 255

Yemeni crowd ERUPTS in cheers as Iranian missiles strike Tel Aviv
Houthis live-streaming the event on a huge screen in Saada City
https://t.me/rtnews/99047

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:54 utc | 256

A report by Saudia Arabia news said that Iran depleted a signficant amount of its ballistic missle aresenal (500 out of 3000) on this attack.
Posted by: Deniz | Jun 13 2025 19:47 utc | 244
########
That would presume that KSA knew the Iranian depth.
A simple rule, when someone claims something, ‘is it something that they could have insight about?’
Lots of people make claims. Many of them are unsourced. When it comes to Western claims (make no mistake, KSA is a Western country), it is often propaganda or disinformation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:55 utc | 257

If Iran attacks Israel directly they risk a nuclear response
I can see it now. Iran will launch 500 missiles and one of them will kill an Arab child. Netanyahu will hold up the dead body saying, ‘Iran has killed a precious Palestinian baby, we must wipe out such evil from this earth’
(Just to state clearly, I consider Netanyahu a POS)

Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 13 2025 19:55 utc | 258

Putin has reportedly offered to act as a mediator between Iran and Israel.

Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 19:57 utc | 259

The emotions, the need to be hysterical is overwhelming.
Take a deep breath, gals and gays. The little world will not finish today.
Two barbiturics, Orfisleep, and, tomorrow, again.
Some Lithium for the maniac and depression of these old bad things, is always a real help.
Really. Most of you are out of your mind.
Good mess in your dreams.

Posted by: Harsh | Jun 13 2025 20:01 utc | 260

My spirit animal, Chairman Kim.
“Israel is just an American base in the Middle East and not a country, so everything Israel does is based on American orders. America is a criminal country and must know this and stop its crimes and spreading the culture of crime. America is the world’s largest country with nuclear weapons and was the first country to use nuclear weapons.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 20:02 utc | 261

Putin has reportedly offered to act as a mediator between Iran and Israel.
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 13 2025 19:57 utc | 262
Lovely. After a brilliant career as a statesman he now wants to join the circus.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 20:02 utc | 262

Re: LoveDonbass @260,
it reminds me of all of those stories about Russia running out of missiles, artillery shells, tanks and bullets and that they were sending troops into battle with shovels and were reduced to scavenging computer chips from washing machines. I’m sure Iran has much more than 10,000 long range missiles and that they can launch 200-300 missiles/drone waves daily for at least 3-4 weeks if necessary

Posted by: Kadath | Jun 13 2025 20:04 utc | 263

@Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 13 2025 19:44 utc: Thanks; that was helpful.
Wonder when they’re going to develop a drone whose job is to take out a tanker. Slink along the terrain till beneath it, then go vertical. Might be hard to see them coming.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Jun 13 2025 20:04 utc | 264

What is His Royal Orangeness saying about the latest developments?
Of course the biggest losers from all this are MAGA; they sit at home, polishing their guns and counting their boxes of ammo, while Zionists drag their “land of the free” into oblivion.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 13 2025 20:04 utc | 265

YT – in full censorship mode, not 1 single footage or analysts of Iranian strikes upon the filth that was
brought upon humanity.
YT has a lot of coverage on Israel hits on Iran. Hypocrisy in plain site.
What a disaster.
Trump’s forever war… I bet everyone’s hoping he didn’t get nicked in the ear now.

Posted by: ToB | Jun 13 2025 20:04 utc | 266

“Israel will respond to the Iranian bombing against Israeli civilian areas by the Israeli Air Force targeting civilian areas in Iran,” – Channel 12
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 13 2025 19:53 utc | 255
Fitting. Any Zionist “repsonse” to a (perceived) aggression is a confession (or boast) of intent or previous sins.
Of course the Zionazis are looking forward to targeting MORE Iranian civilians and having the Western MSM describe in passive voice how they were unintentionally killed in “clashes” and “retaliatory strikes” – oh and did I mention (((who))) controls the Western “free” press?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 20:05 utc | 267

The dogs bark but the caravan moves on:

Vietnam officially joins Brics as ‘partner country’, Brazil announces
Southeast Asian country’s ‘dynamic economy’ touted as the group of emerging economies widens its agenda urging a more inclusive global order

Vietnam officially gained admission to Brics as a “partner country” on Friday, joining a growing group of emerging economies connected to the bloc’s widening agenda urging global cooperation and governance reform.
The announcement came from Brazil, which holds Brics’ rotating presidency in 2025. In a statement, the Brazilian government welcomed Hanoi’s decision, highlighting shared goals of building “a more inclusive and representative international order.”
more ==> https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3314414/vietnam-officially-joins-brics-partner-country-brazil-announces?

Posted by: too scents | Jun 13 2025 20:06 utc | 268

Has anyone seen canuck or Will Gruff? We should do a wellness check.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 20:06 utc | 269

White smoke indicating a new Jeffery Epstein has been chosen
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130714
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Iran: A Revolutionary Guard official: The upcoming Iranian operation will be more intense and destructive.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41971
🔘Iran has shot down eight Israeli aircraft, claims Tasnim.
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/42519

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 20:06 utc | 270

even any handicaped village idiots recognise that Russia and Iran are losers, because their leaders are stupid, coward, slow faggots 😉
Posted by: joe911 | Jun 13 2025 20:03 utc | 266
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Who is your leader?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 20:07 utc | 271

Posted by: ToB | Jun 13 2025 20:04 utc | 270
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This conflict won’t last forever.
The Yanks don’t have enough bullets or pilots to do that.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 20:08 utc | 272

@Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 13 2025 20:04 utc | 269

What is His Royal Orangeness saying about the latest developments?

Isn’t he having a beautiful May 9th pretense tomorrow? Maybe the backdrop wasn’t what he planned for.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 20:11 utc | 273

There is no mediating with the beloved ones. This is plain to see.

Posted by: chunga | Jun 13 2025 20:11 utc | 274

Has anyone seen canuck or Will Gruff? We should do a wellness check.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 20:06 utc | 273
Trump is anti-elite, antiwar, outside of the blob and totally unimpeachable compared to his fellow GOP and DNC warmongers. To even remotely imply otherwise, or notice that he’s owned by the same Zionist elite oligarch factions, is “TDS”, “antisemitic” and “racist” – you should know better.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 20:11 utc | 275

I’m glad that Iran didn’t wait to respond to Israel, and didn’t telegraph it either. Supposedly, Israel is sending more jets to attack Iran, we’ll have to see. Lot of confusion and contradictory stories out there. Hope that Iran did indeed capture a pilot (Israel denies this per telegram), so hope to see a picture if true. Who knows when this tit for tat will end and how far it will go. Trump could have prevented this but didn’t want and now hopes that Iran will negotiate, what a pathetic conman.

Posted by: ctiger | Jun 13 2025 20:12 utc | 276

“Israel will respond to the Iranian bombing against Israeli civilian areas by the Israeli Air Force targeting civilian areas in Iran,” – Channel 12
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 13 2025 19:53 utc | 255
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I said before and will say again, Iran must entirely destroy all military assets in Israel. Israel WILL NOT STOP otherwise. They must be stopped and there is only one way.
If the US interferes to save them, whack ever single US target in range.
And all the others who have beefs with Israel/US need to get on board and join the effort to de-militarize Israel entirely.
Anything less and the Rabid Dog will bite again. And again. And again.
Enough.

Posted by: saner | Jun 13 2025 20:14 utc | 277

see the 19-second video at the third link
https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1933599927307063483
War Monitor @WarMonitors
⚡️Senior Israeli official: American forces participate in intercepting the missiles in the Iranian attack
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1933612928210776328
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
The first day of Israeli war on Iran and Iranian retaliation seems over for now. Next round is near and could be in a few hours.
benjamin netanyahu spoke to US president Donald Trump who said, just before the Iranian retaliation, that Iran has been hit severly and would be ready to accept his terms.
Now Netanyau is crying on Trump’s shoulder, asking him to join and save him.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933601163594891623
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
Impressive footage !
Israeli air defenses near Hakyria launches interceptors when two Iranian Missiles hit the area.
https://x.com/Ahmed_hassan_za/status/1933605775898824915
Ahmed Hassan 🇾🇪 أحمد حسن زيد @Ahmed_hassan_za
Where have the Israelis disappeared to? I don’t see any of them speaking or posting anything now!!!
Is that possible? Are they all dead?

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 20:18 utc | 278

Posted by: saner | Jun 13 2025 20:14 utc | 281
I agree, the rabid dog called Israel must be put down, or it will keep coming for you.

Posted by: ctiger | Jun 13 2025 20:18 utc | 279

To all the Zionist here defending the child murderers, we don’t care. Any damage to the abomination called Israel is welcomed and deserved.
You should also see a psychiatrist, since you love to watch kids murdered by your disgusting, fanatic, religious and violent entity.

Posted by: AnimaL | Jun 13 2025 20:19 utc | 280

If Israel had nukes they would have impacted Tehran in the past hour or two. They are not holding back, they ain’t got.
Next question is does US have nukes?
You think you know something about these topics. You know what you have been told. Start to understand. Everything they tell you is a lie. It is all lies.
Every ultra super duper inside information whistleblowing story you ever read was a setup. It is all lies.

Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 13 2025 20:20 utc | 281

I guess at some point Israel will have to start confiscating washing machine chips in order to replenish its Iron Shovel defence system.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 13 2025 20:21 utc | 282

Posted by: ToB | Jun 13 2025 20:04 utc | 270
The Western news agencies are reporting directly from Tel Aviv and censoring out any discussion of the failed interceptions.
They’re just pointing to the apparently successful interceptions or fuzzing the whole narrative entirely.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 20:24 utc | 283

—❗️🇮🇷 🇮🇷 Full statement by the IRGC on Operation True Promise-3:
‘In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
Following the initial announcement regarding the successful implementation of Operation True Promise-3 against the strategic positions of the Zionist regime, we hereby inform the honorable people of Iran and the free people of the world of the details of this operation.
In this operation, the missile and drone units of the IRGC Aerospace Force, using a combination of pinpoint and intelligent systems, targeted military centers and air bases that were the origin of the criminal attack against our country, as well as military industrial centers that are used in the production of missiles and other military equipment and weapons to commit crimes against the resistance nations of the region, especially the oppressed people of Palestine and Gaza. We targeted these locations along with other military targets deep in the occupied territories.
Field reports, satellite images and intelligence intercepts indicate that dozens of ballistic missiles effectively hit strategic targets. Despite claiming to intercept, the enemy failed to fully counter the waves of missile attacks by the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Operation True Promise-3, in response to the command of the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution and the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces and the demands of the noble people of Iran, is part of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s response to the shedding of innocent blood in our nation.
This operation was carried out in coordination with all the armed forces and agencies of the Islamic Republic of Iran, in an authoritative and aggressive manner, and its main message is that the security of the Islamic Republic of Iran is the red line of the armed forces.’

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19579

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 20:25 utc | 284

Every ultra super duper inside information whistleblowing story you ever read was a setup. It is all lies.
Posted by: oldhippie | Jun 13 2025 20:20 utc | 285
And the Iranian attacks on Tel Aviv were just holograms and the explosions were really directed energy weapons (DEWs) aimed from space lasers, right?
Yeah no nukes. I’m sure all the fissile material and technology they stole with help from double agents was just for doing X-rays at kibbutzim.
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/11/how-israel-stole-the-bomb/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 20:26 utc | 285

I haven’t seen your source, but the Iranian submarines can fire sea cruise missiles from the torpedo tubes. As we know from the Ukraine conflict, some things can be modified, secretly developed, etc.
So I wouldn’t rule out the possibility that Iran has fired at Israel from submarines, even if it’s only from harbours or ships.
https://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/iran-submarine-capabilities/

Starting in the 1990s, Iran launched a program to acquire or domestically produce mines and torpedoes for all its subsurface boats.11 In 2005 it reportedly launched two local production lines of 533mm and 324mm wake-homing torpedoes with ranges of up to 20km.12 Iran has since developed ballistic and cruise missile technology for its submarines. On 24 February 2019, Iran successfully test-fired a cruise missile from one of its Ghadir-class vessels. The Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) claims the Tareq and the Fateh submarines have the same capability.”

Posted by: BlindSpot | Jun 13 2025 20:28 utc | 286

Where have the Israelis disappeared to? I don’t see any of them speaking or posting anything now!!!
Is that possible? Are they all dead?
Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 20:18 utc | 282
Israeli military censor has instructed all ‘citizens’ to stop taking clips as they suspect the Iranians are using them for geolocation.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 20:29 utc | 287

If they’re building an Iron Dome at least rust-proof the damn thing, at the moment it looks like a 1970s Morris Marina MOT failure…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 13 2025 20:29 utc | 288

So Iran is the first country to have shot down the F-35 fighter – two of them to be precise.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 20:30 utc | 289

Every single accusation is a blatant confession.

Katz: Iran ‘crossed red lines’ by targeting civilians, will pay ‘very heavy price’
Defense minister condemns missile barrage on Israeli cities, vows decisive retaliation against Tehran for ‘heinous actions’

Kike-to-Human translation: We already targeted Iranian (and Gazan and Syrian and Lebanese) civilians, so now we’re going to keep targeting civilians.
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk6z00x57gg
These “people” only understand one language. Annihilate them already.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 20:31 utc | 290

Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 20:02 utc | 265–
Putin needed to do something and did the only thing he could–call both sides. That was expected; it was also expected to be fruitless as I reported. A State of War exists between Iran and the Outlaw US Empire and its Zionist Proxy. For now, diplomacy is dead in West Asia.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 13 2025 20:31 utc | 291

Israel is such a small country!

Posted by: dodo | Jun 13 2025 20:32 utc | 292

‘UNPROVOKED’ attack on Iran by Israel ‘gross violation of UN charter’ — Russia’s UN rep
https://t.me/rtnews/99049
I see what you did there and agree.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 20:34 utc | 293

Interesting how the TDS victims are positively gleeful about this attack on Iran. I guess it must have really been eating at their fractured minds that their tribe was more despicable than Trump, which was problematic since Trump is the worst thing imaginable for them.
Know that you TDS people still have broken minds, even if the attack on Iran gives you some sense of relief.

Posted by: William Gruff | Jun 13 2025 20:35 utc | 294

The current UN security council emergency meeting, with the US currently speaking,is a clown show:
https://www.youtube.com/live/xFeKsoYg7s8?si=a0xB05Etwf5Alv1y

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 20:35 utc | 295

Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 20:25 utc | 288–
Curious wording in that PR:

Operation True Promise-3,… is part of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s response to the shedding of innocent blood in our nation. [My Emphasis]

That implies there’s True Promise-3 and more “response” beyond that.

Posted by: karlof1 | Jun 13 2025 20:38 utc | 296

‘The German Foreign Ministry, as complicit in the Gaza holocaust as Israel and FUKUS, issued their scripted condemnation of “Iran’s “indiscriminate” drone attack on Israel” half a day before that actual response took place.’ — XOR #176
… taking their cue from the prescient BBC, which on Sept 11, 2001 announced the collapse of World Trade Center Bldg 7 half an hour before it fell.
Spooky!

Posted by: Jim H | Jun 13 2025 20:40 utc | 297

Those clinging to the opinion that the strange, polarizing, dishonest, lightning rod that occupies the White House is playing some clever balancing act jousting with the “deep state” need to take an honest look at that. As an American, the advice I give to foreigners is this. Never, ever trust an American under any circumstance. You’ll regret it.

Posted by: chunga | Jun 13 2025 20:40 utc | 298

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 20:35 utc | 299

i stopped giving a fuck about the un security council meetings after the 8 years prior to the start of the smo, where russia, china, india, the rest of the world tried every bit of diplomacy, only to be shut down by the us and the statesponsors of terrorism (uk/eu) repeadetly.
the west dont care. terrorists never do.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 13 2025 20:40 utc | 299

So, Hitler had a point after all.
We can take the history we have been told and throw it in the toilet.
Posted by: g wiltek | Jun 13 2025 19:43 utc | 236

Hitler supported the relocation of European Jews to Palestine and did everything possible to facilitate it. It was the ones who didn’t take the hint who were sent to work camps.
Without the massive propagandization of the exaggerated events at those work camps, it would have been very difficult to get the UN resolution which legitimized the creation of the State of Israel passed.

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Jun 13 2025 20:41 utc | 300