Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 13, 2025
Iran Could Use Oil To Urge The U.S. To Sue For Peace

The primary targets of Israel's attack on Iran do not seem to be nuclear research and production facilities. People in the top positions of Iran's military forces, top scientists of Iran's nuclear program and political leaders seem to have been the primary aim.

Two dozen high ranking officers, including the chief of the General Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, General Mohammad Bagheri, and the commander of the IRGC’s Aerospace Force, Amir-Ali Hajizadeh, were killed in targeted attacks. Several leading scientist were killed over night when Israel bombed the civilian buildings they were living in.

Iran's main nuclear enrichment facilities are buried underground near Natanz and Fordow. Satellite images show only light damage on above ground facilities in Natanz. Fordow seems to have not been attacked at all. There were attacks on some of Iran's ballistic missile facilities. There are no reports yet of the level of damage they received.

Curiously there were no signs of any active air defenses. Israel seems to have disabled them by other means than open warfare.

Israeli sources claimed that Iran had retaliated by launching a hundred drones against Israel. There were however no observations of any drone. Iranian sources say that none had been launched (yet).

The attacks so far seem to be aimed more at regime change than on nuclear facilities. The few strikes on nuclear infrastructure are just enough for Israel to claim this as an act of preemptive self-defense.

A preemptive self defense is legal under international law. But it requires that the threat is "instant", "overwhelming" and "imminent" leaving "no time for deliberation". None of these conditions existed when Israel launched its attack. The war it launched is thus an act of aggression and illegal under international law.

Israel has planned for the campaign to continued for at least two weeks:

Israel's operation against Iran's nuclear program, military leadership and arsenal of missiles is nowhere near over, with Israel having planned out 14 days of operations, a senior Israeli official said.

The likely duration of the campaign fits with analysts' expectations that a single wave of strikes wouldn't be able to do enough damage to Iran's nuclear program and Israel's comprehensive approach of attacking Iran's facilities, leadership and arsenal at the same time to limit the possibility of a retaliatory strike.

The pattern is similar to the one Israel deployed against Lebanese militia and Iranian ally Hezbollah—decapitating its leadership, degrading its arsenal and pushing it to a settlement. The current conflict could similarly end in a negotiated deal, the official said.

Iran has only two viable ways to respond to the attack. One is, as Scott Ritter lays out, an overwhelming destructive strike on Israel itself. This must be sufficiently hard for Israel that it will ask the U.S. to negotiate an end to the war. This would however risk nuclear strikes by Israel on Iran.

Another potential is to retaliated against the power behind Israel which conspired with it to launch the attack. There are U.S. targets in the Middle East which Iran could easily strike at. But the response from the U.S. would be an air and missile war that would overwhelm any defenses Iran has left.

A more reasonable attack on the U.S. will target its economy. Iran can stop its production of oil. It has various means to stop oil and gas production in U.S. allied countries situated in its neighborhood. It can close down the Strait of Hormuz through which 25% of the global hydrocarbon productions is flowing. There is the little the U.S. could do to prevent Iran from sustaining such a blockade.

As I have stated previously:

Trump wants lower oil prices and freedom to pursue his domestic agenda. 

A few month of oil prices above $200 per barrel would devastated the chances for Republicans to keep the House and the Senate. It would ruin Trump's presidency. The would turn the world against Israel. Trump would be forced to sue for peace with Iran.

There would be strong collateral damage in the global economy. Iran would be blamed for it. But everyone would also know that it was not Iran or its leader who started this.

Comments

Reports that an Israeli fighter jet has been shotdown over Iran – there’s a huge search party out to find the pilot.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 13 2025 18:07 utc | 101

AD missiles these days have range of 400km.
Thats roughly the distance from NYC to Boston

Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 18:08 utc | 102

🇮🇷⚔️🇮🇱 Reports that Iran has launched ballistic missiles towards Israel!
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151257
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 NEW: Iranian Army Rangers are searching for the Israeli pilots in Western Iran
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19533
🇮🇷🇮🇱⚡️Hundreds of missile launcher were seen preparing for attack on Israel!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41933

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:08 utc | 103

Last October ……
🇮🇱🇮🇷 15 minutes Iranian missiles hitting Israel … supercut
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1841183543093051731

Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 18:09 utc | 104

Reports that an Israeli fighter jet has been shotdown over Iran – there’s a huge search party out to find the pilot.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 13 2025 18:07 utc | 101
hoooo boyo! A brand new round “Bring the Hostages home” rallies in Occupied Palestine?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 18:11 utc | 105

Iran is still failing to respond.
It doesn’t realise that if it doesn’t tie israel up defending its own air space the israelis are just going to keep wiping out the entire leadership chain all the way to Khamenei – as they did with Hezbollah.
Use it, or lose it, Iran.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 18:12 utc | 106

https://x.com/AryJeay/status/1933586453260284173
Arya – آریا @AryJeay
‼️🇮🇷🇮🇱 BREAKING: Iran has launched a wave of missiles towards Israel
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1933565171525460026
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
⚡️BREAKING: Missile sirens activated in various West Bank settlements, and occupied Al Quds, following missile launches from Yemen.
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1933527740734714118
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Obama’s Iran deal was working. It was working. Iran was still challenging US/Israeli hegemony in the region, but it wasn’t building a nuke and was following the rules. And Trump shredded it to start all this shit. It was never about nukes, it’s about dominating the middle east.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 18:12 utc | 107

The root (and rot) of the issue seems to be that the Iranian leadership is itself a captured or otherwise deluded entity incapable of locating and uncovering the bedrock subterfuges upon which Israel’s fig leaf of a casus belli depends. Namely, who really was and in control of Hamas up to Oct 7 (a possibly is still) and what were the most logical strategic motives for such an attack vs the most logical dangers, towards a view of an analysis of what is more likely: Israeli passive complicity in its own attack or genuine surprise followed by strategic mastery and near total impunity?

Posted by: Ludovic | Jun 13 2025 18:12 utc | 108

—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 BREAKING: HUNDREDS OF MISSILES INCOMING
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19534
video:
Reports of massive Iranian ballistic missile launches at Israel. Arrival in 10 minutes.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130633

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:13 utc | 109

@101 ROS
Reports are an f35 plus second aircraft, downed by f-14.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 13 2025 18:15 utc | 110

The fog of war is very dense. Most circulating information eminates from USIS.
B wrote: Curiously there were no signs of any active air defenses. Israel seems to have disabled them by other means than open warfare.
https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@DDGeopolitics/151160
In Israel, they reported on an operation carried out by Mossad, which was practically identical to the one carried out by Ukrainian formations on June 1. The operation was prepared well in advance – several months before the H-hour, cells were created on the territory of Iran, reconnaissance of key facilities was carried out, and fire strikes were planned.
https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@DDGeopolitics/151171
🇮🇱💥🇮🇷 Footage of a Mossad drone strike on an Iranian radar site.
As reported, Israel, similar to Ukraine, launched multiple drones from within Iranian territory.
B wrote: Israeli sources claimed that Iran had retaliated by launching a hundred drones against Israel. There were however no observations of any drone. Iranian sources say that none had been launched (yet).
🇮🇷 Iran has denied launching any drones toward Israel so far. Meanwhile, Isrseli media reports that the drones were launched from Iraq.
https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@DDGeopolitics/151180
Without a doubt, any lack of reciprocity or escalation will be used by USIS to further destroy Iran until it resembles Libya, Somalia, … . So all these calls for restraint will fall in deaf ears.
Iran has many choices for retaliation ☢️
https://nitter.poast.org/MenchOsint/status/1933468189502894421#m

Posted by: xor | Jun 13 2025 18:17 utc | 111

Video: Tel Aviv incoming
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41938
West Bank
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19537
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Impacts in Tel Aviv
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19539

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:17 utc | 112

Israel launches fresh wave of strikes on Iran after hitting nuclear and military sites overnight
Jordan and Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar will be a target for Iranian retaliation.
A serie of 100 drones originated from Shia militia in Iraq? Many shot down by Jordanian AF of the puppet King.

Posted by: Oui | Jun 13 2025 18:18 utc | 113

Coverage:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 13 2025 18:18 utc | 114

f35 plus second aircraft, downed by f-14.
Posted by: Ornot | Jun 13 2025 18:15 utc | 110

Ooophf if true.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 13 2025 18:19 utc | 115

An F14 shot down an F35?
Without Tom Cruise?

Posted by: Afro | Jun 13 2025 18:20 utc | 116

—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 BREAKING: Massive explosions in the center of Tel Aviv
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19542
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151266
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Missiles are heading towards the occupied territories!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41940
Iraqis cheer as Iranian missiles fly overhead, heading to the occupied territories.
https://t.me/presstv/143996
🇮🇷💥🇮🇱 Video of a missile strike in Tel Aviv!
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151269

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:23 utc | 117

Another coverage:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 13 2025 18:23 utc | 118

According to wikipedia, on a quick glance, the S-300 system has a range of up to 75km.
I admit, i have no idea what systems Iran operates.
Posted by: kspr | Jun 13 2025 17:56 utc | 88
The older S-300 missiles have a range of up to 75km. The newer ones from the 90’s have a range up to 200km.

Posted by: NoName | Jun 13 2025 18:24 utc | 119

Can someone explain to me how Iran failed to detect the launch and approach of 200 aircraft? Did they all stay out of radar range?
And then not detect and respond to the missiles from those aircraft?
What’s going on with Iranian air defense?

Posted by: Joe85 | Jun 13 2025 18:25 utc | 120

So operation True Promise III started, as expected after dark. Let’s hope all the Israeli nuclear sites are leveled… and that the FUKUS military bases in Jordan aren’t spared either… .

Posted by: xor | Jun 13 2025 18:27 utc | 121

—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Initial report of a direct hit on the IDF Command Headquarters, the Kirya, in Tel Aviv.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19545
Another video
🇮🇷💥🇮🇱 Missile strikes on Tel Aviv!
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151270
Fire near the headquarters of the Israeli Defense Ministry after the fall of Iranian ballistic missiles.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130648
Fire near the headquarters of the Israeli Defense Ministry after the fall of Iranian ballistic missiles.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:27 utc | 122

BTW regarding post 78, ‘adopted children’ is a bad phrase. I was trying to describe countries under the U.S. umbrella of protection. Proxy is good for countries under our dominion (like the EU) but that does not apply to Israel. Israel is not a proxy (dang, still struggling for an accurate phrase, it’s going to drive me crazy)
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Jun 13 2025 17:55 utc | 87
So, Russia is supposed to entangle itself in alliances because that’s what the depraved US Empire has done? Perhaps Russia is just heeding George Washington’s advice. Why should Russian citizens pay for Iran’s or Syria’s expense?
Seems to me that Russia is the world’s best hope for peace. It’s an autarky – would like to, but doesn’t have to, trade with anybody. Has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. Appears to have the most advanced & lethal non-nuclear weapon in the world. Has close basically zero debt and zero structural deficits. The best thing Russia can do is to become a city shining on a hill, for the world to emulate.
It’s either that, or the American people start doing their job and watering their sickly tree of liberty.

Posted by: HB Brian | Jun 13 2025 18:28 utc | 123

Joe85 (120).
I read somewhere that Special Forces (who’s?) are inside Iran – jamming Iran’s radar and targeting for Israeli jets.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 13 2025 18:28 utc | 124

@ chunga | Jun 13 2025 17:04 utc | 44
yes, the slow go does tempt it, doesn’t it…
@ aristodemos | Jun 13 2025 17:11 utc | 49
i guess we are going to find out soon enough, if iran has this capacity, ability and desire, aren’t we??

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 18:29 utc | 125

@Norwegian What you said is correct.
1) Confirmation of the destruction of an Israeli F35
https://x.com/kahlissee/status/1933584975150063647/mediaviewer
2) Iran bombs Tel Avivhttps://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1933592436846019070

Posted by: surena | Jun 13 2025 18:32 utc | 126

@121
There are 5 or 7 NATO, aka FUKUS bases, including several airfields capable for fighter aircraft in east Turkiye Closer to Teheran than Iraq.

Posted by: paddy | Jun 13 2025 18:32 utc | 127

been reading the telegram channels about missiles hitting Tel Aviv, hope that some serious damage is do to infrastructure and leadership. And please don’t make this a symbolic response. Iran did that once before and how did that work out? I can only dream that Iran will utterly destroy (at least temporaroly) Israel’s offensive capability. Now would be good time for Hamas and Hezbollah to come out of hiding….

Posted by: ctiger | Jun 13 2025 18:33 utc | 128

If Iran actually closes the Strait of Hormuz, it will find itself without any friends or allies anywhere in the world (except Yemen). Yes, the US will be paying two hundred dollars for a barrel of oil. So will China. So will Russia. So will the Global South. Everyone will be paying two hundred dollars for a barrel oil because oil is a fungible commodity; if the price of oil changes in one part of the world, it correspondingly changes all over the world.
I’m not saying Iran won’t close the Strait of Hormuz, or that its not an option. I’m saying that its Iran’s nuclear option.

Posted by: Monos | Jun 13 2025 18:33 utc | 129

I just saw a beautiful hypersonic strike right in the middle of Tel Aviv. And Trump just said he would protect Israhell. May they all get what they deserve.

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Jun 13 2025 18:34 utc | 130

—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Khamenei: ‘Let history record that it was them who started this war’
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19548
Rocket salvo
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130650
Iranian missiles attacked a key IDF command post in Kirya, where the entire Israeli military and political leadership was located.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130652
About 45 Iranian missiles were launched in the first wave, with at least 7 impacts.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19549
🇮🇱An IDF spokesperson had to interrupt their live address due to a missile attack.
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/42495
🔘Situation in Jerusalem
Air raid sirens are sounding.
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/42496
🔴 Iran launches Operation True Promise III against Israel
🔴 Israel confirms Iran shot down two fighter jets
https://t.me/presstv/144003
—❗️🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Iran announces that an Israeli Air Force pilot has been captured
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19550

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:35 utc | 131

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933592623966564858
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
🇮🇶 Huge blasts heard near Erbil (Iraq) airport, possibly targeting Mossad bases.
https://x.com/Pataramesh/status/1933590756217983295
Patarames @Pataramesh
Even launches from Tehran region:
Gloves are off
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1933586242202931242
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Iran needs to fire hundreds of missiles concentrated in a few corridors to make it impossible for Israel to intercept these incoming missiles. This is what Iran has learned the last time and it worked.
https://x.com/hmdmosavi/status/1933579815254184258
Hamid | حمید 🇮🇷 @hmdmosavi
Breaking
Reports of the interception of a second Israeli jet!

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 18:35 utc | 132

@James – Russia certainly tempts that fate with it’s slow, methodical, PREDICTABLE approach to it’s situation in US backed and led former state of Ukraine. The element of surprise has been abandoned.
Posted by: chunga | Jun 13 2025 17:04 utc | 44
—————
Predictable?
Hardly! Methodical, deliberate and steady are better descriptors. After all Russia is steadily winning, and all quite contrary to NATOland plans.
Bye-the-bye Iranian missile are now hitting Tel Aviv.
Look forward to the screeching about the barbaric Iranian attacks & innocent Israeli civilians dying, as Israel gets a taste of what it’s all too eager to dish out.
Wonder if Hezbollah has reorganised enough to join in, the Iraqi militias attempt something or even the new Syrian regime attempt to gain some cheap domestic political points by putting pressure on Israeli forces currently squatting in Syria.
The Houthis of course can be counted on to do something.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 18:37 utc | 133

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:23 utc | 117
Well F me, the Iranians finally found the keys to the can of woop ass!
That channel claims Iran captured a fighter pilot.
I don’t fancy his chances of being exchanged though, considering …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 18:38 utc | 134

thanks everyone for the telegram and various updates..

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 18:38 utc | 135

@ Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 18:37 utc | 133
see my original post which chunga was responding to.. cheers..

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 18:40 utc | 136

From DD Geopolitics Telegram:
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151273?single
“More scenes from Iranian strikes on Tel Aviv!
A second wave of missile launches has been reported.
The operation has been named “Operation Severe Punishment.””

Posted by: NoName | Jun 13 2025 18:43 utc | 137

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 18:38 utc | 134
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Reports are that the pilot was female.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 18:44 utc | 138

see the 3 videos at the first link
see the 32-second video at the second link
https://x.com/Kahlissee/status/1933595179656552853
Khalissee @Kahlissee
BREAKING: MORE CRAZY FOOTAGE FROM IRAN’S MISSILE STRIKES
THE SKY OVER ISRAEL IS COVERED IN IRANIAN MISSILES
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1933595573115842770
Sulaiman Ahmed @ShaykhSulaiman
BREAKING: ANOTHER ANGLE OF IRANS RESPONSE TO ISRAEL
There are missiles EVERYWHERE
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933595986129269079
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
🚨 BREAKING.
The second wave of Iranian Missiles seems bigger than the first one and it has arrived, alert all over Israeli territory, Hatzerim AirBase & THAAD areas likely targeted.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 18:45 utc | 139

Very clear video:
Iranian missiles. Second salvo.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130657
🇮🇷💥🇮🇱 More scenes from Iranian strikes on Tel Aviv!
A second wave of missile launches has been reported.
The operation has been named “Operation Severe Punishment.”
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151273
🇮🇷💥🇮🇱 Chaotic scenes from Tel Aviv!
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151275
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 More missiles heading towards the targets!
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41945
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 The pilot of one of the two Israeli fighter jets shot down and taken prisoner was a woman.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41948
The Iron Dome air defence system crews intercept Iranian missiles in the skies over Tel Aviv. Some passed through.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130660
HOLY SHIT
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19554

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:45 utc | 140

Posted by: Michael Thomas | Jun 13 2025 17:11 utc | 48
#########
It’s not about nukes. Iran doesn’t have a Rothschild central bank.
Like Iraq, like Libya, like Sudan, like Syria.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 18:47 utc | 141

Iran is still failing to respond.
It doesn’t realise that if it doesn’t tie israel up defending its own air space the israelis are just going to keep wiping out the entire leadership chain all the way to Khamenei – as they did with Hezbollah.
Use it, or lose it, Iran.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 18:12 utc | 106
—————-
Do stop being tiresome, it pretty clear nothing Iran could do short of the Ayatollah himself killing Bibi & Co in personal combat would make you slightly happy.
Although by the way Bibi fled the scene before today to Cyprus. So clearly that evil cowardly fu*ker might know something you don’t.
Also how many missiles do you think can be fired at once and how effective would that be compared to consecutive volleys?

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 18:47 utc | 142

Well F me, the Iranians finally found the keys to the can of woop ass!
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 18:38 utc | 134

First there’s laughing. Then there’s crying.

Posted by: too scents | Jun 13 2025 18:47 utc | 143

Come Iran, keep it coming! third wave of missiles on its’ way!

Posted by: Kadath | Jun 13 2025 18:48 utc | 144

Reports are that the pilot was female.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 18:44 utc | 138
How progressive. The Iranians are truly an equitable culture.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 18:50 utc | 145

I don’t fancy his chances of being exchanged though, considering …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 18:38 utc | 134
It’s a SHE! Or whatever pronoun the Zio-Jewess uses.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 18:52 utc | 146

🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Israeli Defense Ministry headquarters in Tel Aviv struck by Iranian missile — Channel 13
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41949
Israeli nuclear center in Dimona attacked.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130664
The first videos of destruction in Israel have emerged
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130665
The government compound in Kirya, which houses the IDF’s secure command centre, was almost completely destroyed in an Iranian strike.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130666
🇮🇷💥🇮🇱 Long exposure photo of Tel Aviv. We know another country that places air defenses in densely populated areas.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151280
—❗️ NOTE: Lack of footage is due to most Israelis being in shelters + military censorship.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19561

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:52 utc | 147

Now I am reading that the pilot was a female American.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 18:52 utc | 148

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:45 utc | 140
Man you’re teasing me. I can’t view Telegram and refuse to install using my phone number. Do you know any alternate methods?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 18:53 utc | 149

300 missiles launched now. Many of them are hypersonic.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 18:53 utc | 150

Now I am reading that the pilot was a female American.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 18:52 utc | 148
Well, well. Now that would be rich, wouldn’t it. Just perfect.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 18:53 utc | 151

@Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 18:53 utc | 149
As far as I know you need a phone to register. But I use PC to watch these channels. It is a magnificent source of info, even if sometimes inaccurate.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:55 utc | 152

If Iran actually closes the Strait of Hormuz, it will find itself without any friends or allies anywhere in the world (except Yemen). Yes, the US will be paying two hundred dollars for a barrel of oil. So will China. So will Russia. So will the Global South. Everyone will be paying two hundred dollars for a barrel oil because oil is a fungible commodity; if the price of oil changes in one part of the world, it correspondingly changes all over the world.
I’m not saying Iran won’t close the Strait of Hormuz, or that its not an option. I’m saying that its Iran’s nuclear option.
Posted by: Monos | Jun 13 2025 18:33 utc | 129
————-
Iran could simply say, direct any and all complaints to Israel & backers of same.
Since they started the mess so that’s where ire should be and compensation should come from.
Also Russia won’t be *paying* $200 for oil, it’ll be *selling* it. Which would be the most grimly funny outcome of this affair.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 18:55 utc | 153

aristodemos | Jun 13 2025 17:27 utc | 61
They said the same thing about Hezbollah and their 100,000 missiles. Who won that one? If the straights are closed by Iran then the Sunni nations have an excuse. Toppling a regime does not necessarily mean boots on the ground. This could be the beginning of a two decade kinetic operation against Iran weaking and degrading them.
I would not discount anything the BEAST can do. Trumps quick trip to the region on behalf of Israel skipping Israel leads me to believe these possiblities were discussed. This shit was not started in a dark corner. Plans had to have been made with many Western entities. Trump obviously knew beforehand.
Get a grip. The retalliation sequence is not in Irans favor in the long term.

Posted by: circumspect | Jun 13 2025 18:56 utc | 154

RE: Strait of Hormuz – any connection to the recent uptick of US military activity/strikes in Somalia/Djibouti?
Or for that matter, setting up capability to “quickly” dis-assemble any blockages (barring lack of cover for said operations, of course)?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 18:57 utc | 155

Iran captures downed plane pilot: a woman…

Posted by: surena | Jun 13 2025 18:58 utc | 156

“The Iranian Air Defence was practically completely ineffective, almost as if it had been deactivated. ”
Israel’s fascist regiem fire hundreds of missiles into Iran – how many of them have you seen hit something?
People are so used by that propaganda of the Ukraine war, where they also believe that they see everything, while it’s less than 5% and those 5% are extremely weighted by a focus on PR.
And even there you see little nothing when it comes to interception.

Posted by: Beatrice | Jun 13 2025 18:58 utc | 157

Posted this on the last thread, but more appropriate here – still likely to get buried in a few minutes LOL.
As we saw many times previously it is not really viable to plan to “bomb a nation into submission”. Yemen? Iraq? Afghanistan? Serbia? Ukraine? the Palestinians? Hezbollah? What happened in Syria and Libya is the only way to achieve this – and then you are typically left with a mess. Iran has a lot of resources and fairly advanced military technology. They likely could produce nuclear weapons in short order. They certainly have enough enriched uranium to do so. They are a major player in the world oil and gas markets, they can control the Strait of Hormuz.
Likely they will respond in a measured way, trying to do some visible damage without triggering an existential response from Israel.
Will the US overtly enter the conflict? This is a question.
We can assume no more talks, so what will the US response be to that?
Likely the US hopes to support Israeli attacks and avoid direct blame while hopping to either provoke an ‘over reaction’ that will justify further escalation, but ultimately they want regime change and de-facto surrender to US diktats. If Iran can tolerate what Israel dishes out while doing some damage in return, but resist demands to capitulate while maintaining general popular support then that will be success I think.
Will they start building nukes?
Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 13 2025 17:01 utc | 629
Now we see the beginning of the Iranian response – couple of jets down, pilot captured, missile strikes in Israel…

Posted by: the pessimist | Jun 13 2025 18:59 utc | 158

🇮🇷🇮🇱 Iran’s Army Air Defense Command announces that they shot down two Israeli F-35 ‘Adir’ fighter jets.
They also announces that a female Israeli Air Force pilot has been captured

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 18:59 utc | 159

2 F-35s and 2 F-16s apparently.
Seems like Iranian AD is working now.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:00 utc | 160

Yo, hasbarats!
What happened to Israel’s air defence?
Seems pretty shit to me 🤣

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 19:01 utc | 161

Israel (the West) suck at warfare. Let’s see how they do tomorrow now that they have exhausted the element of surprise.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:01 utc | 162

—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 BREAKING: More impacts at the IDF Headquarters, the Kirya
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19563
—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 Israeli AD is totally overwhelmed
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19565
Iran officially announced that it was able to shoot down two 5th-generation F-35 aircraft while repelling the Israeli attack. One pilot was captured.
News came in that 2 F-16s were also down.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130673

An Israeli noted yesterday:
The code name you are looking for is ‘HaKirya’. Israel’s most heavily defended, most central military base, where IDF command and strategic planning of the Israeli security state is being carried out – at the heart of Tel Aviv.
If/when HaKirya is seriously damaged, then we’ll know with 100% certainty this is the real war, the one to the end, and the Iranians are not holding back anymore + are capable of strategically damaging Israel’s war apparatus.
If you see or hear ‘HaKirya’ in news reports, know that, without any doubt, no games are involved in this anymore

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130674
Palestinians rejoice at Iranian hypersonic strikes on Tel Aviv.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130676
Iran’s Tasnim News Agency Says Next Attack Will Hit Haifa
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130677
—❗️🇮🇱/🇮🇷 WATCH: Hypersonics impact in Tel Aviv
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19566

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:01 utc | 163

3 powerplants, 2 harbors, 1 big airport

Posted by: Exile | Jun 13 2025 19:02 utc | 164

LoveDonbass #141. EXACTAMUNDO. Norwegian various – thanks for links. Happy to see Iran standing up.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 13 2025 19:02 utc | 165

Seems like Iranian AD is working now.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:00 utc | 160
Someone turned it on and off again.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Jun 13 2025 19:02 utc | 166

Two f35s claimed.

Posted by: Ornot | Jun 13 2025 19:02 utc | 167

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 18:53 utc | 149
Most of the time, but not all, you can see tg via browser.
Use the name after the t.me and cut the number, that reference the single post.
You should be able to access the channel via preview.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 13 2025 19:02 utc | 168

In Starship Troopers (the book), the pilots are all women, because women just make better pilots, or something. Heinlein had a real appreciation for women in at least some roles (including ones that involved fighting and dying) in the military, probably because his wife saved his life when he was in the Army.
Anyway, that’s a perfect gender parity in the shoot downs, one woman, one man.

Posted by: fnord | Jun 13 2025 19:03 utc | 169

PS. Pilot is/was an American female???? chumpette for sure. And, well, does this mean that Trumpstein has really got his own beautiful war?

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Jun 13 2025 19:04 utc | 170

“Operation Severe Punishment”
see the 4-seoncd video at the first link. Nice!
see the photo at the second link
see the 25-second video at the third link
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1933591123601338523
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
‼️ Iranian likely Hypersonic Missile hitting targets in Tel Aviv.
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1933594861200158911
Sulaiman Ahmed @ShaykhSulaiman
BREAKING: THIS IS TEL AVIV RIGHT NOW
The sky is LIT with missiles
Israel is on FIRE
https://x.com/AryJeay/status/1933598230882709547
Arya – آریا @AryJeay
🇮🇷🇮🇱| The moment when Iranian missiles hit the heart of Tel Aviv and Fox News reporters had to flee.
According to reports, many military centers were targeted and damaged by Iranian ballistic missiles.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 19:05 utc | 171

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BXxazufM0x8&pp=ygUhYmxhY2sgc2FpbHMgc3BhbmlzaCBnYWxsZW9uIHNjZW5l
Well if Iran really is hitting back in the manner implied by those videos posted by others.
It’s rather like the man ‘o’ war scene in Black Sails.
Although it seems that Mr Khamene didn’t “waste the moment”.
*Or* Bibi is the pirate captain & allied ship with the ever so cunning plan to take on a Spanish warship.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Jun 13 2025 19:06 utc | 172

Ah, and a classic war rom-com: I was a male war bride, starring Cary Grant, in which a butch (for the time) WAC soldier falls in love with a French officer (and it’s mutual). Also can’t forget the women tank commanders of the Red Army, or their snipers, who killed hundreds of German supermen.

Posted by: fnord | Jun 13 2025 19:06 utc | 173

Pepe Escobar reports that Iranian missiles have struck Dimona.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:07 utc | 174

So we’ve gone from believing Iran’s AA would down all of Israel’s warplanes if they dared attack, and their ballistic missile response would destroy Israel… to hoping that Republican politicians love being re-elected in mid-terms more than they love obeying AIPAC.
Unless the mullahs can pull a rabbit out of a hat, I expect the country is about to go the same way as Syria and Libya… much to the detriment of the long-suffering indigenes of the entire region.
The takedown of Hezbollah was key here, and that was mostly down to their sloppiness sourcing pagers. It meant they couldn’t help Assad, and now Syria’s airspace is wide open for Israel.
On top of that you have the stupidity of the mullahs refusing to develop nukes. There’s a reason the US hasn’t attacked North Korea.
The empire wins again. Goyim, rejoice! Your masters remain on top.

Posted by: observer | Jun 13 2025 19:08 utc | 175

Israel claiming universal victimhood in 3, 2, 1, … .
The German Foreign Ministry, as complicit in the Gaza holocaust as Israel and FUKUS, issued their scripted condemnation of “Iran’s “indiscriminate” drone attack on Israel” half a day before that actual response took place.

Posted by: xor | Jun 13 2025 19:09 utc | 176

Israeli Defense Minister Katz,
‘Iran has crossed red lines.’

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:10 utc | 177

Zionist Jews are so despicable. They f around and complain when they find out.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:11 utc | 178

Posted by: michaelj72 | Jun 13 2025 19:05 utc | 171
Thanks. Pls. keep the Xtwitter links coming. No success with Telegram despite some much appreciated advice from others.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:11 utc | 179

@ Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 18:55 utc | 152
thanks for all the updates! i am like tom and would like to be able to open them on my computer, but haven’t signed up… once you sign up on a phone, how are you able to access them off your computer?? thanks..

Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 19:11 utc | 180

Ah yes, two fabulous IDF F35’s have been downed by Iranian AAD already…….so the first use of the F35’s against real world AAD have been less than robust…..in the first 24 hours no less……
Yet another TFX fail…..

Posted by: tobias cole | Jun 13 2025 19:12 utc | 181

🇮🇷💥🇮🇱 Israeli air defenses went haywire as they tried to engage the first wave of Iranian missiles.
Wonder how many interceptors hit the city.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/151282
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Israeli media: All of Israel is under fire so far. 300 missiles were fired in two separate salvos, and the third salvo is still ongoing.”
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41956
🇺🇸🇮🇱⚡️🇮🇷 US forces are participating in intercepting the Iranian missiles.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41957
A lion wakes, ready to fight: A song for Iran’s Operation True Promise II
https://t.me/presstv/144019
▶️ Footage captures the massive destruction caused by Iranian retaliatory strikes on Tel Aviv
https://t.me/presstv/144023
— 🇮🇷/🇮🇱 NEW: Hebrew Media : The Iranians are fine-tuning the accuracy of their missile launches through video clips posted inside Israel.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/19567
New angle:
And here is footage of the Iranian hypersonic missile arriving in the area of ​​the Israeli air defence system. This footage shows that the missile entered the building next to the air defence system.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/130685
⚡️The headquarters of the Israeli Ministry of Defense was attacked for the second time, — various Telegram channels citing the IRNA news agency.
https://t.me/ukraine_watch/42500
🇮🇷🇮🇱⚡️More videos of Iran’s strikes on Israel.
https://t.me/intelslava/75886
🇮🇷⚡️🇮🇱 Injuries reported at the Nevatim Airbase.
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/41959

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:13 utc | 182

once you sign up on a phone, how are you able to access them off your computer?? thanks..
Posted by: james | Jun 13 2025 19:11 utc | 180
james, I honestly recommend avoiding signing up. It’s notoriously riddled with security flaws [and likely Israeli/NSA infiltration]. If you really want to, though, there is an easy to use desktop app, but you have to install it on your phone too, and then use a QR scanner or enter your phone # on the desktop app to receive a OTP code to finish install. I will abstain despite my desire to see this shit as ‘live’ as possible.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:14 utc | 183

Israel says it will respond to Iranian strikes on “civilian cities”, while Israel has killed over 100 civilians in Iran today….

the eternal victim!

Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 13 2025 19:14 utc | 184

@181,
Until there is actual proof of the pilot or planes, its BS.

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 19:14 utc | 185

Until there is actual proof of the pilot or planes, its BS.
Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 19:14 utc | 185
Uh, did you see the earlier X vid of the pilot bailing out and the chute either failing or being shot up while the ejection seat with pilot in it fall to the ground?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:17 utc | 186

Latest news – Several F-35’s shot down, pilots captured… Tel Aviv getting whooped.
Where is Netanyahu?
Respect to Mighty Iran! and Yemen!

Posted by: ToB | Jun 13 2025 19:17 utc | 187

Where is Netanyahu?
Respect to Mighty Iran! and Yemen!
Posted by: ToB | Jun 13 2025 19:17 utc | 187
Not even kidding, but I saw earlier that he’s in London or NYC hiding out like a little bitch. May be at Mar a Lago by now.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:17 utc | 188

Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 13 2025 19:14 utc | 185
#######
Until there is proof that you’re not posting from Tel Aviv or India. You’re BS.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:18 utc | 189

@james | Jun 13 2025 19:11 utc | 180

thanks for all the updates! i am like tom and would like to be able to open them on my computer, but haven’t signed up… once you sign up on a phone, how are you able to access them off your computer?? thanks..

1. Install Telegram App on mobile (phone number registration required)
2. Install telegram Desktop on PC https://desktop.telegram.org/
It will be one user on all devices. I have it on Iphone, Windows and Linux
Then you just access a myriad of channels. I also use it privately in family.

Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 13 2025 19:18 utc | 190

https://www.southfront.press/double-aggression-a-single-center-coordinates-attacks-against-russia-and-iran/
any truth to the content this link?

Posted by: snake | Jun 13 2025 19:19 utc | 191

As I posted in the previous thread, let the fog of war dissipate for a day or two before rushing to ‘conclusions’.
This will also apply to this Iranian hit as well.

Posted by: Mario | Jun 13 2025 19:20 utc | 192

This war will end with either the destruction of the Iranian government or the destruction of Israel. The problem is Israel has nukes. They are going all in. We want them to. Destroying Iran hurts China and Russia bigly.

Posted by: WJ | Jun 13 2025 19:20 utc | 193

Nothing unites people more than watching Tel Aviv get bombed

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Jun 13 2025 19:21 utc | 194

F-35’s shot down buy Iranian F14’s … incredible.
I believe Iran wasn’t compromised or hacked, and none of it’s leadership martyred. Contrary to
what the media is reporting, it is alot of fog of war.
Think, what country within hours establish that your entire military commanders were whiped out? Do you
not think they would withhold such sensitive information atleast for 24hrs. Within a few hours we had PRESS
confirmation that everyone was killed. People are this stupid to believe things
It is becoming evident that Iran baited the Israel’s to make the first strike.
Ask your self – who benefits directly from this strike??

Posted by: ToB | Jun 13 2025 19:21 utc | 195

@Hoarsewhisperer | Jun 13 2025 16:13 utc
Mordechai VanunU revealed the information in 1986 and got 18years in prison. Would that be a fake story?
David E Hoffman wrote three articles in Foreign Policy around 2010 about missing mininukes. I think they were supposed to be decommisioned but they were not supposed to disappear
There are some theorists who have found a possible explanation for the signs of 9/11 being performed with comparatively slowly radiating reactors undergoing a deliberate meltdown. That explanation may concern several more buildings than wtc1&2.
pictures show that other buildings look like they were burned out, like you would expect if there had been a reactor emptying its nuclear energy
If the perpetrators had access to partly aged mininukes they might not have been available for a prompt nuclear demolition operation. But a reactor doesnt need the highly enriched conditions in a nuke
Such bombs obtained without having to pay for them would be useful material for a reactor demolition operation. I have no proof but it is a possibility.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2010/04/01/the-little-nukes-that-got-away/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/05/08/the-little-nukes-that-got-away-again/
The articles are behind paywall now but I read then when they were freely accessible.
I am not sure Hoffman gave precise info about when it happened.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Jun 13 2025 19:21 utc | 196

Soon our MSM will, despite all the evidences from the videos above, pretend that the iron dome intercepted 90% of the incoming missiles. All of them.

Posted by: scc | Jun 13 2025 19:22 utc | 197

May the bar remember that the price of oil is relative to who controls the oil. Iran/ Russia could both sell China the ROW for 1 ruble/rial if it wants. This is but the final nail in the hegemony of capitalism, tptb just don’t know it.

Posted by: Ggersh | Jun 13 2025 19:22 utc | 198

Operation True Promise 3 launched.
https://nitter.poast.org/IranObserver0
Iran is launching so many missiles at Israel, that Israel’s air defences just can’t cope with them – there have been multiple strikes in Israel – causing massive damage.
https://nitter.poast.org/IranObserver0

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Jun 13 2025 19:22 utc | 199

This war will end with either the destruction of the Iranian government or the destruction of Israel. The problem is Israel has nukes. They are going all in. We want them to. Destroying Iran hurts China and Russia bigly.
Posted by: WJ | Jun 13 2025 19:20 utc | 193
Bullshit takes like this bear no response, but let Israel use its nukes. Do you have any idea what that will do to the credibility of the entire western “rules based order”? And what if Russia capitalizes on this and does to Kyiv what Iran is doing to Tel Aviv on an even more massive scale. Russia has nukes too…the difference is, they don’t NEED to use them.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Jun 13 2025 19:23 utc | 200