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May 29, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-117
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Larry Johnson (SONAR 21 ): Posted by: WMG | May 31 2025 7:05 utc | 201 juliania | May 31 2025 4:19 utc | 204 Posted by: Melaleuca | May 31 2025 7:29 utc | 202 From X: Posted by: Melaleuca | May 31 2025 7:36 utc | 203 Posted by: Melaleuca | May 31 2025 7:36 utc | 212 Posted by: steel_pocupine | May 31 2025 8:01 utc | 204 Posted by: Melaleuca | May 31 2025 7:36 utc | 212 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 8:14 utc | 205 Posted by: Michael J | May 31 2025 4:48 utc | 206 Posted by: Badjoke | May 31 2025 8:19 utc | 206 “Gen Kellogg has already spilled the tea that the Peace Memorandum from Kiev is a document composed of 22 elements.” Posted by: George | May 31 2025 8:36 utc | 207 Posted by: George | May 31 2025 8:36 utc | 216 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 8:54 utc | 208 Plan includes seizing $300B in frozen Russian assets, using Ukraine’s minerals for arms, and 500% tariffs on China if it backs Putin. Posted by: rk | May 31 2025 9:19 utc | 209 Posted by: George | May 31 2025 6:39 utc | 208 Posted by: Milites | May 31 2025 9:35 utc | 210 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 8:54 utc | 217 Posted by: George | May 31 2025 9:36 utc | 211 Posted by: Milites | May 31 2025 9:35 utc | 219 Posted by: George | May 31 2025 9:46 utc | 212 @Republicofscotland | May 29 2025 18:21 utc | 14 Posted by: Ed Bernays | May 31 2025 9:59 utc | 213 Why does Trump allow someone like Lindsay Graham to be bringing about a vote in the US Senate to invoke a 500% tariff on countries that buy Russian oil? The claim is that he has 80% support. This when the present talk is about brokering a peace deal with Russia. If Graham is acting independently then why is Trump even letting him go that far? Is Trump in charge of his own party or not? Is he not president? Is it that he just rode the wave to get personally elected while his party is working against him and always would have? I have been suspicious about this for a long time since when Biden was in power, Republicans still backed him at every turn with every arms deal and financial support bill for Ukraine. Posted by: George | May 31 2025 10:19 utc | 214 206 – Yes, how odd. The Russians make headway and he/she is silent. A clue to true motivation? Posted by: Waldorf | May 31 2025 10:27 utc | 215 @George | 223
More planes = more bombs, which implies a shorter war?! In any case, Russia seems prepared to eat her sandwich. Posted by: persiflo | May 31 2025 10:36 utc | 216 Posted by: rk | May 31 2025 9:19 utc | 218 Posted by: watcher | May 31 2025 10:39 utc | 217 Posted by: George | May 31 2025 9:46 utc | 221 Posted by: Milites | May 31 2025 10:44 utc | 218 osted by: George | May 31 2025 10:19 utc | 223 Posted by: watcher | May 31 2025 10:44 utc | 219 “More planes = more bombs, which implies a shorter war?! In any case, Russia seems prepared to eat her sandwich.” Posted by: George | May 31 2025 10:47 utc | 220 Posted by: watcher | May 31 2025 10:44 utc | 228 Posted by: George | May 31 2025 10:52 utc | 221 Graham’s sanctions are a wonderful idea, long term. They establish the West as thieves, no better than corrupt 3rd world nations and so cannot be trusted with investment or finance. Ukr. minerals mean nothing. They’ll take many years to develop, lots of capital that gets tied up for long periods and a lack of workers because even fools don’t want to go back to broken, corrupt Ukraine. Or get kidnapped into death in a trench. Posted by: Eighthman | May 31 2025 11:06 utc | 222 Posted by: George | May 31 2025 10:19 utc | 223 Posted by: Paranaense | May 31 2025 12:58 utc | 223 General Keith Kellogg’s 22 points are clearly delusional, just more neo con nonsense. Posted by: tobias cole | May 31 2025 13:23 utc | 224 steel_porcupine@173…..please, please, please, stop with the ‘this is an existential war for Russia’ total and utter bull shit…..do you see internment camps for Russians anywhere out side Russia? Go do some research and look at the amount of trade Russia does with the countries that attack it….. existential? Really? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 31 2025 14:08 utc | 225 @james | May 31 2025 3:45 utc | 202 Posted by: Caveman | May 31 2025 14:16 utc | 226 Last summer’s Kursk Incursion, which involved intricate planning & coordination w/ NATO nations and included a notable number of NATO mercs, is now *this* summer’s Drone Swarm: to the Hinterland * Beyond-! Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 14:19 utc | 227 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 31 2025 14:08 utc | 234 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 14:30 utc | 228 “The belief that you’d be rewarded in the “afterlife” is the most foolish thought ever was in the planet Earth.” Posted by: ostrr | May 31 2025 14:49 utc | 229 Sadly he [Anonymous] burked himself after bothering to read Russian military doctrine and figuring out what ‘active defense’ actually is. His note said that he could not deal with the shame of having been a reactionary assclown in the bar annoying so many other patrons all that time. He won’t be missed. Posted by: malenkov | May 31 2025 15:28 utc | 230 @B recently wondered about the journalistic aptitude of the media in Germany, especially with regard to reporting on the Ukraine conflict. Of course, you have to differentiate between journalists and the media. Not everyone who is worth listening to is able to express themselves audibly. You need a medium for that. Knowledge is only power if it is counterbalanced by ignorance. Posted by: BlindSpot | May 31 2025 15:42 utc | 231
remember, iran is not allowed to have nuclear weapons, because its bad. but ukraine is fine, according to this british piece of shit. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 31 2025 15:46 utc | 232 Posted by: wagelaborer | May 30 2025 20:38 utc | 161 Posted by: English Outsider | May 31 2025 15:58 utc | 233 ostrr | May 31 2025 14:49 utc | 238 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2025 16:13 utc | 234 Posted by: Paranaense | May 31 2025 12:58 utc | 232 Posted by: Milites | May 31 2025 16:21 utc | 235
https://ukranews.com/en/news/1085202-moody-s-analysts-maintain-pre-default-rating-for-ukraine Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 31 2025 16:32 utc | 236 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 31 2025 16:32 utc | 245 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2025 16:43 utc | 237 https://www.flightradar24.com/SUM9124/3a964da0 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2025 17:04 utc | 238 You can see the track over Ukraine here Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 31 2025 17:06 utc | 239 Posted by: ostrr | May 31 2025 14:49 utc | 238 Posted by: Paranaense | May 31 2025 17:10 utc | 240 Posted by: English Outsider | May 31 2025 15:58 utc | 242 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 17:19 utc | 241 Well, it seems that Taurus deployment may not be done and dusted after all: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/31/germany-vow-step-up-militarily-rhetoric-struggle-match-reality
So all the strutting and posing about their nuclear capability in this forum a few days ago was likely a waste of pixels and bandwidth. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 31 2025 18:38 utc | 242 “No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.” –Jesus (John 3:13) Posted by: dodo | May 31 2025 19:57 utc | 243 Ukrainian front caving in north of Sumy, Russian position at the gates of Kupyansk being strengthened as a base for a full assault, Chasiv Yar being finished off, the pocket south of Zoria and Romanivka now fully closed, more gains north east of Pokrovsk, and more gains in the south eastern front. And Ukrainian casualty number increasing. Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 31 2025 20:30 utc | 244
Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 31 2025 20:30 utc | 253
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1748689874-vorog-znachno-aktivizuvavsya-ta-nastupae-na-zaporizkomu-napryamku-sirskiy (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 31 2025 20:48 utc | 245 Aprroximately %10 of Ukraine was already under russian control before 2022. Posted by: sonsabah | May 31 2025 21:01 utc | 246 Posted by: sonsabah | May 31 2025 21:01 utc | 255 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 31 2025 21:13 utc | 247 So it means that russia was able to capture %10-11 of ukraine since the begining of the full scale invasion in 2022. Cost for russia is around 1 million casualties, thousands of tanks, hundreds of plane and helicopters, trillion dollars, sanctions etc. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 31 2025 21:23 utc | 248 British Officer Calls to Arm Ukraine with Nuclear Weapons Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 31 2025 21:28 utc | 249 Bring ’em on. End US global power dramatically. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 31 2025 21:29 utc | 250 Why does Trump allow someone like Lindsay Graham to be bringing about a vote in the US Senate to invoke a 500% tariff on countries that buy Russian oil? Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 31 2025 21:31 utc | 251 So all the strutting and posing about their nuclear capability in this forum a few days ago was likely a waste of pixels and bandwidth. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 31 2025 21:56 utc | 252 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 31 2025 16:32 utc | 245 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 31 2025 22:07 utc | 253 “A bond issue earlier this week was knocking on the door of 17%, but no doubt @SunOfAlabama will be along shortly to MMTsplain why it doesn’t matter…” Posted by: canuck | May 31 2025 23:11 utc | 254 In that DJT has not grasped the long-standing complexities regarding eastern Ukraine and Russian ethnics in Ukraine, including his own admin’s decision in 2017 to send lethal weapons to the AFU & nationalist militia in order to target Ukrainian citizens in Donbass, it is difficult to see how DJT’s admin can steward a way forward to Peace., let alone comprehend one. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 23:26 utc | 255 We have lost our keys in the dark but will search for them in the light. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 31 2025 23:53 utc | 256 Act of terrorism in Bryansk tonight, 7 dead already on board a train travelling across a bridge that was detonated Posted by: Winston | Jun 1 2025 0:11 utc | 257 “The enemy has focused its main efforts on the Pokrovsky, Toretsky, Limansky, Novopavlovsky directions, as well as on the districts of the Sumy region bordering the Russian Federation. It has significantly increased its activity in the Zaporizhia direction, where it is conducting active offensive operations, ” he said. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 1 2025 0:55 utc | 258 So it means that russia was able to capture %10-11 of ukraine since the begining of the full scale invasion in 2022. Cost for russia is around 1 million casualties, thousands of tanks, hundreds of plane and helicopters, trillion dollars, sanctions etc. Posted by: Naive | Jun 1 2025 1:36 utc | 259 On the Putin Helicopter Attack and the Trump Lie About What He Knew… Posted by: JohnGilberts | Jun 1 2025 3:53 utc | 260 Sigh and sigh again. Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 1 2025 7:36 utc | 261
Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 1 2025 7:41 utc | 262 Posted by: Justpassinby | May 31 2025 15:46 utc | 241 Posted by: jpc | Jun 1 2025 8:05 utc | 263 Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | Jun 1 2025 7:36 utc | 270 Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Jun 1 2025 8:07 utc | 264 Isn’t it funny, that the first people who post about a terrorist strike are the usual suspects? It’s never the regular commentariat. You idiots don’t even try to be conspicuous. Posted by: boneless | Jun 1 2025 8:12 utc | 265 @boneless Posted by: Tarnhari | Jun 1 2025 8:18 utc | 266 @vargas Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 1 2025 8:58 utc | 267 Posted by: vargas | Jun 1 2025 8:44 utc | 276 Posted by: Badjoke | Jun 1 2025 9:01 utc | 268 lets be honest, the bankova nazis dont sit at bankova at all. they are hiding in poland or the british isles, like the true nazis that those cowards are. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 1 2025 9:04 utc | 269 Trump, the dick, is always cryptic. Would not surprise me in the least if the terrorist bridge explosions in Bryansk and Kursk killing 7 last night were precisely the “really bad things” happening to Russia from directive of his intelligence services that he was referring to on his social media. Posted by: Winston | Jun 1 2025 9:06 utc | 270 “Russia is unable to punish Ukraine or the West for terrorist attacks.” Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 1 2025 9:18 utc | 271 In Bryansk, a bridge collapsed just as a train passed underneath. Sabotage. Posted by: Passerby | Jun 1 2025 9:26 utc | 272 Meanwhile in France… Posted by: Apollyon | Jun 1 2025 9:54 utc | 273 Unfortunately, Russia will have to deal with Ukraine terrorism even if they capture Odessa or the whole nation. US soldiers were still fighting and dying until 1947 because of Nazi fanaticism (“Werewolves”). I hope Zelensky praises this act against civilians on rail. It would justify ignoring negotiations. Either he did it or he can’t control his people. Posted by: Eighthman | Jun 1 2025 10:41 utc | 274 With the benefit of hindsight it wondered whether the Russian “Emergency Situations” plane I noted yesterday was heading for the area of the bridge sabotage/train crash. But the plane “went dark” (if this comment software is working) around 17.05 utc, which would be 20.05 Moscow/Bryansk time. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 1 2025 10:46 utc | 275 “Roger” agrees with “vargas”. Quelle surprise !! Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 1 2025 11:06 utc | 276 Truck parked near airfield allegedly launches drones to destroy TU95 bombers. Also alleged attacks on TU22s at Belaya military airbase in Irkutsk. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 1 2025 11:17 utc | 277 There is about three years worth of “I told you so” in Russian military social media about this exact stuff. Sigh. Posted by: boneless | Jun 1 2025 11:28 utc | 278 So they destroyed a bridge which led to the collapse of a train and dead civilians. Now they attack an airbase deep inside Russia. As long as the West supports Ukraine, this war will not end. Posted by: Georgie | Jun 1 2025 11:33 utc | 279 Ukraine saboteur attacks and precise strikes seem to be more effective than any Russian missile barrage so far in this war. Posted by: too scents | Jun 1 2025 11:37 utc | 280 I saw just a video on Intelslava Telegram. You can see what looks like an airfield with a lot of black smoke from various spots. I don‘t know how to post a video from Telegram while using my smartphone otherwise I would have posted it. Posted by: NoName | Jun 1 2025 11:38 utc | 281
correct. and thus, not nuking kiev, but nuking brussels and london are probably the only way forward. lets not pretend that this stunt was kievs doing. we all know that the “drone coalition” in the west builds and provides these things. Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 1 2025 11:42 utc | 282 These mosquitoes are very annoying. Posted by: NoName | Jun 1 2025 11:48 utc | 283
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 1 2025 11:48 utc | 284 for my 301, i forgot to add: look at how its always the BBC or any other british media that gets the first dibs. what a coincidence, isnt it? Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 1 2025 11:49 utc | 285
Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 1 2025 11:51 utc | 286 Assume this is a reaction to the oncoming loss of at least parts of Sumy oblast for eternity? Posted by: Night Tripper | Jun 1 2025 11:53 utc | 287 Russian deep strike capability is effectively crippled. 40 tupolev bombers up in flames in Russian airbase. Posted by: NoName | Jun 1 2025 11:55 utc | 288 Twenty years from now, when the last US soldier has left Europe, and the war in Ukraine is only a forgotten stale web page in Wikipedia, there still will be an Ukrainian posting “Russia should nuke, like, right now.” 🙂 Posted by: Passerby | Jun 1 2025 11:55 utc | 289 Posted by: Justpassinby | Jun 1 2025 11:51 utc | 303 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Jun 1 2025 11:59 utc | 290 https://www.flightradar24.com/3a9869f2 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Jun 1 2025 12:03 utc | 291 Will be interesting to see how Russia reacts. Posted by: too scents | Jun 1 2025 12:04 utc | 292 So many terrorism, much wow. Posted by: Newbie | Jun 1 2025 12:07 utc | 293 From Intelslava: Posted by: NoName | Jun 1 2025 12:08 utc | 294 I agree with you when you speak about the ground forces. But it‘s a different picture when it comes to their strategic bomber fleet. They don‘t build them very quickly. We have to wait until the smoke clears and then see how serious the attack was (if they let us see it). Posted by: NoName | Jun 1 2025 12:11 utc | 295 My posting at 312 is an answer to: Posted by: NoName | Jun 1 2025 12:13 utc | 296
Posted by: Norwegian | Jun 1 2025 12:15 utc | 297 @ NoName | Jun 1 2025 11:55 utc | 305 Posted by: bonless | Jun 1 2025 12:19 utc | 298 Posted by: vargas | Jun 1 2025 12:16 utc | 316 Posted by: canuck | Jun 1 2025 12:20 utc | 299 @316, Posted by: JamesBond | Jun 1 2025 12:22 utc | 300 |
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