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May 29, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-117
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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In response to Alex Christoforou@101, Posted by: Skiffer | May 30 2025 13:44 utc | 101 @ Posted by: Alex Christoforou | May 30 2025 12:26 utc | 101 Posted by: jared | May 30 2025 13:47 utc | 102 As always, for Churchill No. 2, it’s a PR media performance. Posted by: Savonarole | May 30 2025 13:51 utc | 103 What Did President Trump Know When President Putin’s Helicopter Came Under Ukrainian Drone Attack in Kursk? Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 30 2025 13:53 utc | 104 Posted by: Night Tripper | May 30 2025 13:00 utc | 104 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 30 2025 14:00 utc | 105 https://www.flightradar24.com/3a919c19 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 14:06 utc | 106 Posted by: ostrr | May 29 2025 17:39 utc | 10 Posted by: Paranaense | May 30 2025 14:29 utc | 107 And, on the other hand, if Russia had shot down two or three or ten or twelve planes of ‘the bloody entity’ … they would have instantly respected Russia. Posted by: A rope leash | May 29 2025 20:24 utc | 21 Posted by: Paranaense | May 30 2025 14:45 utc | 109 113 Posted by: Catilina | May 30 2025 14:54 utc | 110 reply to 115 Posted by: Eighthman | May 30 2025 14:58 utc | 111 The idea of an “after life” provides hope and motivation. Posted by: jared | May 30 2025 15:16 utc | 112 bassplayer | May 30 2025 13:42 utc | 106 Posted by: markw | May 30 2025 15:25 utc | 113 Mobilisation in Ukraine facing increasing push-back:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/hmelnitskaya/1748593189-u-kam-yantsi-podilskomu-blizko-100-lyudey-zablokuvali-avtomobil-ttsk (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 30 2025 15:43 utc | 114 Does it matter to the fate of Ukraine and Russia whether we barflies are religious or not? Fascinating topic, but totally irrelevant to the subject at issue. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 15:46 utc | 115 jared | May 30 2025 13:47 utc | 108 Posted by: markw | May 30 2025 15:47 utc | 116 https://www.flightradar24.com/RRR4187/3a91ea71 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 15:51 utc | 117 “Against renewed #Russian 🇷🇺 attack efforts, #Ukraine 🇺🇦 has not been idle, and is currently building the New Donbas Line, which stretches from #Kharkiv city to #VilnePole (#Zaporizhzhia), and which is the fruit of years of drone war experience and, finally, error correction. In some sections, it’s already capable of withstanding full-force #Russian attacks.” Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 15:58 utc | 118 Posted by: ostrr | May 29 2025 17:39 utc | 10 Posted by: CeaClearly | May 30 2025 16:04 utc | 119 @ YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 15:58 utc | 124 Posted by: boneless | May 30 2025 16:27 utc | 120 steel_porcupine ( May 30 2025 8:55 utc | 81 ): Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 30 2025 16:33 utc | 121 The spontaneous resistance against press gangs is a good sign. Reminds one of the well known quote:
. Posted by: Exile | May 30 2025 16:36 utc | 122 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 9:13 utc | 83 Posted by: ChatNPC | May 30 2025 16:40 utc | 123 How we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Posted by: too scents | May 30 2025 16:43 utc | 124 Ukrainian losses for the week May 24th to May 30th, as reported by the Russian defence ministry: Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 30 2025 16:44 utc | 125 markw @ 122
Take your arrogant, bloviating barely crypto Nazi attitude and pretentious, high school, one dimensional social Darwinist mindset somewhere else, maybe an Azov forum. Or, come back when you reach the age of reason and learn write tersely while still showing respect for others. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 30 2025 16:50 utc | 126 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 15:58 utc | 124 Posted by: Milites | May 30 2025 16:52 utc | 127 Posted by: Alex Christoforou | May 30 2025 12:26 utc | 101 Posted by: HB_Norica | May 30 2025 16:53 utc | 128
Posted by: Exile | May 30 2025 16:36 utc | 128 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 30 2025 16:58 utc | 129 Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 30 2025 16:44 utc | 131 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 30 2025 16:59 utc | 130 Posted by: HB_Norica | May 30 2025 16:53 utc | 134 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 30 2025 17:04 utc | 131 The Serbs are sending weapons to Ukraine via the back door – I’m surprised at Vucic doing this, but then again when money’s involved this is what happens – Sanchez of Spain claimed Spain wasn’t arming the Zio-Monsters, only for it to be discovered Spain, is arming them via the back door as well. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 30 2025 17:10 utc | 132 From Al Manar
Guess who is controlling the narrative? Posted by: psychohistorian | May 30 2025 17:19 utc | 133 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 30 2025 17:04 utc | 137 Posted by: Milites | May 30 2025 17:20 utc | 134 #109 Savonarole Posted by: kpax | May 30 2025 17:35 utc | 135 Posted by: Milites | May 30 2025 17:20 utc | 140 Posted by: CeaClearly | May 30 2025 17:52 utc | 136 Skiffer @107: “Maybe he just really wants to give them both a piano performance that they won’t soon forget?” Posted by: William Gruff | May 30 2025 17:54 utc | 137 I’d still like to know why three Ukrainian “aspiring male models” were allegedly setting Starmer’s property ablaze. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 18:01 utc | 138
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 18:01 utc | 144 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 30 2025 18:09 utc | 139
I’m surprised you’re writing something that simplicistic. Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 18:22 utc | 140 Fixed defence lines are useless against drones, mass artillery, opposition air supremacy and FABs – most especially when they are not anchored on large industrial towns and situated in relatively flat land areas. And that’s if the utterly corrupt Ukrainian state is able to properly build and locate them. Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 30 2025 18:41 utc | 141 Posted by: Simon | May 30 2025 12:25 utc | 100 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 30 2025 18:51 utc | 142 Posted by: Milites | May 30 2025 17:20 utc | 140 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 30 2025 19:00 utc | 143
https://ukranews.com/en/news/1084991-limitedly-fit-persons-must-undergo-military-medical-examination-by-june-5-there-will-be-no Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 30 2025 19:04 utc | 144 “Too bad we can’t worship ourselves.” Posted by: Paranaense | May 30 2025 19:37 utc | 146 The US is a completely dishonest broker and cannot be trusted at any level. Posted by: acementhead | May 30 2025 19:47 utc | 147 jared #102…thank you..this is most accurate situation before negotiation on 06/02(if it happen) I can only add if ukr. do not agree on Russians terms the will bomb Z nest until he surrender… they surely softened up Z protector(kellogg).. @155 Posted by: paddy | May 30 2025 20:09 utc | 149 FDR died in April 1945 Posted by: acementhead | May 30 2025 20:23 utc | 150 *** Truman egged by Churchill and the Atlanticist underground are why we are here today. *** Posted by: frithguild | May 30 2025 20:23 utc | 151
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/05/30/ukraine-refused-to-pay-665-million-to-holders-of-gdp-warrants-bloomberg Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 30 2025 20:27 utc | 152 I have recently revisited the Rand Co.’s Extending Russia. The plan is to cause Russia problems. It is wrong on an ethical or moral basis, but “wrong” because it “didn’t work” is a weird way to look at it. Posted by: wagelaborer | May 30 2025 20:38 utc | 153 acementhead | May 30 2025 19:47 utc | 155 Posted by: Markw | May 30 2025 20:47 utc | 154 I can’t remember any more, but I think these examples are enough to prove that the US will never stop trying to destroy, dismember, and loot Russia. Posted by: acementhead | May 30 2025 20:50 utc | 155 The Russians consolidated their gains north of Kupyansk with the taking of Kindrashivka and have now also moved into the north of Kupyansk, 2km from the junction of the P79 and P07. The latter is the only major route of supply into the Ukrainian positions east of the Oskil and north of Kolisnykivka – without it all of those positions will be cut off. Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 30 2025 20:57 utc | 156 Paddy @ 157, Frithguild @ 159: Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 30 2025 21:04 utc | 157 Posted by: acementhead | May 30 2025 19:47 utc | 155 Posted by: Milites | May 30 2025 21:06 utc | 158
If Slavs killing other Slavs was not the initial intent of 8 decades of “meddling” in Eastern European political affairs, it is not the worst outcome either for the western ruling classes. There may yet be an opportunity to get Poles, Hungarians, Serbs, Romanians, etc. into the mix. Posted by: Fool Me Twice | May 30 2025 21:21 utc | 159 Posted by: kpax | May 30 2025 17:35 utc | 141 Posted by: Hiro Masamune | May 30 2025 21:33 utc | 160
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | May 30 2025 21:21 utc | 167 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 30 2025 21:34 utc | 161 The Chechny-ization of Ukraine will soon begin. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 22:01 utc | 162 The only role DJT had to play in Project Ukraine was to husband forward Russia’s capitulation terms. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 22:05 utc | 163 Posted by: Alex Christoforou | May 30 2025 12:26 utc | 101 Posted by: Naive | May 30 2025 22:07 utc | 164 WaPo: Putin is blowing a golden opportunity to escape his Ukraine disaster Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 22:11 utc | 165 A lot of atomic weapons, a lot of chest-beating… Posted by: vargas | May 30 2025 22:27 utc | 166 I’d still like to know why three Ukrainian “aspiring male models” were allegedly setting Starmer’s property ablaze. Posted by: Samu | May 30 2025 22:29 utc | 167 Friedrich “uses the small spoon” Merz is acting like the aerial strike on R’s hinterland is what’s most critical right now in Project Ukraine Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 22:30 utc | 168 ostro | May 30 2025 10:24 utc | 90 Posted by: Melaleuca | May 30 2025 22:37 utc | 170 Kiev Accused of Systematic Torture of Russian Prisoners Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 30 2025 23:05 utc | 171 Posted by: Melaleuca | May 30 2025 0:11 utc | 41 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 23:25 utc | 172 When two stupid trolls meet… Posted by: UWDude | May 30 2025 23:28 utc | 173 Whatever happened to Mark2, the UK weirdo with the atrocious spelling? Like so many, he comes in all hyper-participatory, full of Wiki Knowledge, thought bubbles and opinions, then disappears. I’m not complaining. If only some others here would do the same. Haven’t they got real lives to attend to? Posted by: Sgt Peppers | May 30 2025 23:32 utc | 174 When the Ukrainian Team petulantly refuses Russia’s Peace Memorandum, the status quo will not simply return two days later, where the AFU launches drone-swarms on Moscow or sends West-guided long-range weapons to target Russia’s hinterland. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 23:43 utc | 175 And they aren’t the kind of people you want to be with. If you worship yourself then your god is too small. Once you can quiet the storms and rise from the dead then there’s room to brag. Posted by: A rope leash | May 30 2025 23:55 utc | 176 Why the need to put Zelensky at the table with Trump and Putin? Posted by: The Man | May 31 2025 0:00 utc | 177
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 22:05 utc | 171 Posted by: joey_n | May 31 2025 0:16 utc | 178 The illegal negotiations are confirmed to continue next week. The banderite “diplomats” complaints already started. Truly, the image of supreme confidence. Posted by: boneless | May 31 2025 0:18 utc | 179 The illegal negotiations are confirmed to continue next week. The banderite “diplomats” complaints already started. Truly, the image of supreme confidence. Posted by: HERMIUS | May 31 2025 0:30 utc | 180 A bond issue earlier this week was knocking on the door of 17%, but no doubt @SunOfAlabama will be along shortly to MMTsplain why it doesn’t matter… Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 31 2025 0:36 utc | 181 Posted by: joey_n | May 31 2025 0:16 utc | 187 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 0:38 utc | 182 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 30 2025 20:27 utc | 160 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 31 2025 0:56 utc | 183 While Merz acts like the aerial strike on Russia’s hinterland is what’s important now, the Ministry of Defense needs to fight the SMO as if negotiations are not in fact happening. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 1:00 utc | 184 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 30 2025 20:27 utc | 160 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 31 2025 1:10 utc | 185 Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 18:22 utc | 146 Posted by: George | May 31 2025 1:21 utc | 186 “So the boost in Ukraine’s “defense industry” is a fig-leaf. Posted by: George | May 31 2025 1:35 utc | 187 Russia: Posted by: MaryPeck | May 31 2025 2:43 utc | 188 Alleged major hack of Russian nuclear site blueprints. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 31 2025 2:44 utc | 189 Melaleuca | May 30 2025 22:37 utc | 178 Posted by: Peter AU1 | May 31 2025 2:58 utc | 190 May 30, 2025 by M. K. BHADRAKUMAR Posted by: james | May 31 2025 3:08 utc | 191 @ Caveman | May 31 2025 3:09 utc | 201 Posted by: james | May 31 2025 3:45 utc | 193 Posted by: A rope leash | May 30 2025 23:55 utc | 184 Posted by: Paranaense | May 31 2025 4:13 utc | 194 Posted by: Alex Christoforou | May 30 2025 12:26 utc | 101
Posted by: juliania | May 31 2025 4:19 utc | 195 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 31 2025 0:56 utc | 192 Posted by: Paranaense | May 31 2025 4:19 utc | 196 http://avia-pro.net/news/rossiyskaya-armiya-bet-rekordy-1244-km2-osvobozhdeny-za-pyat-mesyacev Russian Forces liberated 13 towns & villages between 23 May and 30 May in critical LOC junctures (Sumy Region, Kupiansk, Konstantynovka) and promises to liberate broad swathes of territory in the coming week. Regardless of talks in Istanbul, it is obvious that the RF will prosecute the SMO as already plotted out & strategized. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 31 2025 6:38 utc | 198 Kellogg said he considered the Russian side’s concerns to be justified. He did not rule out the possibility of reaching an agreement during negotiations between the US and Russia. This is a big step forward.” Posted by: George | May 31 2025 6:39 utc | 199 Posted by: juliania | May 31 2025 4:19 utc | 204 Posted by: steel_pocupine | May 31 2025 6:56 utc | 200 |
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