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May 29, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-117
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Putin Seeks Broad Security Agreement, + Oreshnik to Berlin? Posted by: Apollyon | May 29 2025 15:55 utc | 1 Putin’s demands for peace include an end to NATO enlargement, sources say Posted by: Apollyon | May 29 2025 15:57 utc | 2 https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/es-nsn Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 29 2025 16:12 utc | 3 The Old Nazi’s ancestors, rob their citizens of more, much needed public funds – to keep aiding the Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine. The good people of Germany need to rise up. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2025 16:31 utc | 4 Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2025 16:31 utc | 4 Posted by: Mario | May 29 2025 16:41 utc | 5 Ze meltdown… Posted by: Gipas | May 29 2025 16:49 utc | 6 US wing of the Western media continues to slowly, painfully, shift the narrative to acknowledge that Russia, in fact, isn’t an insane evil hive mind. They have a government. They have opinions. They have plans. Wow. Posted by: boneless | May 29 2025 16:51 utc | 7 Without fully conceding the cauldron, nevertheless DS had to concede a little over 28km2 (after yesterday’s 32km2) and that on a slow (sub 1.300) casualties day. Posted by: Newbie | May 29 2025 17:15 utc | 8 Newbie | May 29 2025 17:15 utc | 8 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 29 2025 17:20 utc | 9 To all these people, who love the war… an excerpt from a book, visiting the Vietnam war Memorial in Washington… Posted by: ostrr | May 29 2025 17:39 utc | 10 There’s no man with a white beard in the sky, there’s no heaven in the sky, there’s no hell…when you are dead you are dead! Posted by: ostrr | May 29 2025 17:41 utc | 11 Combat/drone footage on the obvious Telegram channels has become rare. Any known reasons why? Better control over soldiers smartphones? Rare combat itself? Posted by: Tollkein | May 29 2025 17:44 utc | 12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ej0yAMA1o Posted by: azeclecticdog | May 29 2025 17:45 utc | 13 The Germans who never met a genocide they didn’t like (Namibia, WWII, now Gaza) host Neo-Nazi’s in the Bundestag. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2025 18:21 utc | 14 Newbie | May 29 2025 17:15 utc | 8 Posted by: Newbie | May 29 2025 18:26 utc | 15 The lewngths they’ll go to lol. Trying to get the negotaions meeting at the Vatican to try to win over the catholic world of south america (Brazil) and the Mediteranean. Posted by: HERMIUS | May 29 2025 18:54 utc | 16 Meanwhile, the kiev regime are demanding Russia give them their memorandum for the negotiation which start on June 2nd. Of course, they’ll complain they haven’t had enough time to digest Russia’s proposals. They keep on creating triggers on purpose. Posted by: HERMIUS | May 29 2025 18:59 utc | 17 t.me/DDGeopolitics/149359 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 29 2025 19:23 utc | 18 Telegram just made a big, beautiful dzal with Musk. Of all people. Posted by: Tom | May 29 2025 19:34 utc | 19
polands russophobia makes them side with nazis, and they still dont see the problem. talk is cheap duda. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 29 2025 20:21 utc | 20 ostrr 10,11: Posted by: A rope leash | May 29 2025 20:24 utc | 21 https://www.rt.com/russia/618334-zakharova-ukraine-talks-delegation-makeup/ Posted by: vargas | May 29 2025 20:27 utc | 22 @ Posted by: vargas | May 29 2025 20:27 utc | 22 Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 21:20 utc | 23 You might want to wait longer than a single minute next time vargas. Don’t exhaust yourself so. Posted by: boneless | May 29 2025 21:24 utc | 24 Western warmongers and merchants of death are on a roll…aided and abetted by MICIMATT [the ‘C’ can stand for Canada’s Carney] Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 29 2025 21:32 utc | 26 Carney Backs Trump’s Golden Dome Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 29 2025 21:36 utc | 27 Russia simply can’t afford an endless war in which it receives so many casualties and creates so many broken men. Posted by: HERMIUS | May 29 2025 21:37 utc | 28 @28 HERMIUS Posted by: Jason | May 29 2025 21:57 utc | 29 Posted by: Jason | May 29 2025 21:57 utc | 29 Posted by: HERMIUS | May 29 2025 22:02 utc | 30 @ Posted by: HERMIUS | May 29 2025 21:37 utc | 28 Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 22:11 utc | 31 Posted by: Tollkein | May 29 2025 17:44 utc | 12 Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 22:34 utc | 32 Posted by: ostrr | May 29 2025 17:41 utc | 11 Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 22:38 utc | 33 from Posted by: tucenz | May 29 2025 22:46 utc | 34 So it’s not just Western military platforms that the Russians copy. Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 22:50 utc | 35 “Russia simply can’t afford an endless war in which it receives so many casualties and creates so many broken men.” Posted by: canuck | May 29 2025 23:07 utc | 36 Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 22:11 utc | 31 Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 23:14 utc | 37 Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 21:20 utc | 23 Posted by: dies irae! | May 29 2025 23:34 utc | 38 Russia is mulching the AFU & territory bigly in the the Sumy Region along edge-positions. Tree-lines and villages are falling. The names of these villages will not trigger much in the way of recognition among elites in the U.S.: keep in mind—-this is Flyover Country. Elites in the U.S. will merely flutter their eyelids in response. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 23:37 utc | 39 Russia will have a great country going forward if they agree on The Document, according to DJT—whatever The Document might be. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 23:42 utc | 40 Merz says (well msm breathlessly reported) Germany will provide Taurus and Ukraine can directly target the Kremlin. Posted by: Melaleuca | May 30 2025 0:11 utc | 41 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 23:37 utc | 39 Posted by: Milites | May 30 2025 0:25 utc | 42 Ukraine has lost 15 million people since 2013. The moment the war ends and borders open Ukraine will lose another 10 million men as they know what comes next. Posted by: Jane | May 30 2025 0:31 utc | 43 Can anyone here comment on this story, sent to me by a friend: Posted by: Jane | May 30 2025 0:40 utc | 44 “Good to see the front moving after so long”. Posted by: George | May 30 2025 0:47 utc | 45 Interesting that temporary worker Musk says he’s ‘done his job’ now for DOGE and saved $175 billion for the average American, while Trump signals that the ‘Golden Dome’ (of populist sound bites) will cost $175 billion. 175-175 = 0 for the average American, $175 billion for the Military Industrial Congressional Complex. Posted by: George | May 30 2025 1:01 utc | 46 Will Russia deplete the Taurus inventory? Posted by: George | May 30 2025 1:13 utc | 47 Posted by: Milites | May 30 2025 0:25 utc | 42 Posted by: George | May 30 2025 1:31 utc | 48 Posted by: Jane | May 30 2025 0:40 utc | 44 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 30 2025 1:32 utc | 49 Posted by: Jane | May 30 2025 0:40 utc | 44 Posted by: George | May 30 2025 1:39 utc | 50 Posted by: Melaleuca | May 30 2025 0:11 utc | 41 Posted by: George | May 30 2025 1:48 utc | 51
To me, this looks like an inverse of Nazi Germany’s Wunderwaffen obsession. So instead of some miracle weapon saving Ukraine –and a bunch were announced over the years, as you’ll remember– we now have people miracle intelligence calming everyone pro-Ukraine that at least strategically the Russians lost it.
I wouldn’t bloat about it on any social media but as a German, I agree that an Oreshnik hitting Rheinmetall would be a good thing. I believe the Russians could get away with it for three reasons:
How do you knock out a country that has a nuclear doctrine? Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 1:53 utc | 52 @ Posted by: canuck | May 29 2025 23:07 utc | 36 Posted by: fnord | May 30 2025 2:07 utc | 53 vargas@22….,Lavrov’s latest peace plan bid is trying to head the Ukies off at the pass….the ‘pass’ being the rather wide air corridor 404 opened up by using cheap drones to deplete Russian air defences on the Road to Moscow. A bit lame, but at this point who wants to see Moscow get SCALPed, or heaven forbid, a Taurus comes to visit…..Germany, France and the UK are not bound by any agreements and are free to have proxies attack Russia….all of the day and all of the night…..should they chose….I suspect they shall….oh, goody, the blood letting continues….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 30 2025 2:11 utc | 54 At some point, the victory becomes Pyrrhic. Posted by: Newbie | May 30 2025 2:14 utc | 55 Konami | May 30 2025 1:53 utc | 52 Posted by: Melaleuca | May 30 2025 2:32 utc | 56 Seems like Zlielinsky *really* wants to lose, and lose Bigly Posted by: Melaleuca | May 30 2025 2:43 utc | 57 Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 1:53 utc | 52 Posted by: George | May 30 2025 2:46 utc | 58 George: I understand but the West forced Russia’s hand in Ukraine. The Russian government waited very long (many say: too long) before it stepped in and even then not with full force. Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 3:06 utc | 59 Britain will increase cyberattacks against Russia and China Posted by: Melaleuca | May 30 2025 3:13 utc | 60 Sorry for wrong date: “Overextending Russia” is of course from April 2019. Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 3:17 utc | 61 what about this fellow? any merit in anything he says? Posted by: pasta | May 30 2025 3:22 utc | 62 You mention the Donbass shelling and the 14.000 casualties — that was on purpose to force Russian involvement. Posted by: Merv Ritchie | May 30 2025 3:34 utc | 63 Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 3:06 utc | 59 Posted by: George | May 30 2025 3:58 utc | 64 George: I am not linking RAND because I think they were right. But this is IMO the best access we have to the plans of “the West”. They tried to break up Russia and make it as accessible to Western exploitation as it was during the Yeltsin years, and we get glimpses at their plan for that, from the Overextending Russia report.
The first part (“None…weakened Russia”) is hyperbole, in my opinion. Yes, the sanctions ultimately strengthened Russia’s economy and the Ruble did hold up. But it’s pretty clear that Russia (=government and companies) wouldn’t mind unobstructed trading and it is obvious that the loss of humans on the order of hundreds of thousands (civilians and soldiers) makes Russia weaker, not stronger. Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 4:32 utc | 65 Posted by: pasta | May 30 2025 3:22 utc | 62 Posted by: OnceWere | May 30 2025 4:37 utc | 66 Posted by: Konami | May 30 2025 4:32 utc | 65 Posted by: George | May 30 2025 5:25 utc | 67 @ Jane | May 30 2025 0:40 utc | 44 Posted by: boneless | May 30 2025 5:39 utc | 68 I repost this video: Posted by: WMG | May 30 2025 6:46 utc | 69 Once again…. Posted by: Leipziger | May 30 2025 7:04 utc | 70 Posted by: Leipziger | May 30 2025 7:04 utc | 70 Posted by: Leipziger | May 30 2025 7:31 utc | 71 Not a news story until the files are shared as-is so we can all download and look at them. Right now there is nothing to back up the claim. I will not take them at their word; they are known liars and propagandists. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 30 2025 7:50 utc | 72 My comment was meant as a reply to Jane ( May 30 2025 0:40 utc | 44 ). Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 30 2025 7:56 utc | 73 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 30 2025 7:50 utc | 72 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 8:23 utc | 74 In important ways, DJT is tapping himself along. He’s giving himself 10 days, maybe two weeks to figure out if VVP “is serious” in making a deal. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 8:26 utc | 75 Jane @ 44
Manufactured nonsense, fear mongering yellow journalism of the Evelyn Waugh “Scoop” sort. Imagine the Brits get Enigma and the next day they run it in the newspaper headlines! Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 30 2025 8:28 utc | 76 keep in mind that this latest german escalation simply comes with the territory. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 30 2025 8:35 utc | 77 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 8:26 utc | 75 Posted by: George | May 30 2025 8:42 utc | 78 “The Russians as always through their history of war w/ the west are between the hammer and anvil, so it goes. Posted by: Simon | May 30 2025 8:45 utc | 79
Many people do. Posted by: Avtonom | May 30 2025 8:46 utc | 80 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 30 2025 7:50 utc | 72 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 8:55 utc | 81 “A massive tranche of over 2 million documents found in a public database sheds light on Russia’s expansion and modernization of its highly sensitive nuclear weapons complex, the Danish investigative outlet Danwatch and Germany’s Der Spiegel reported on 29 May. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 9:13 utc | 82 Someone might say that Western leaders, or more precisely, the Mental Software in their heads, subcontracted the killing of Russians to the Ukrainians, and subcontracted the killing of Ukrainians to the Russians. Western leaders will die laughing. Posted by: Simon | May 30 2025 9:20 utc | 83 “Satellite images obtained by Greenpeace show new power lines being built across fields near Mariupol, as well as the distinctive triangular shape of transmission towers. The latest imagery, from May 11 to May 22, shows these lines expanding east of the village of Shevchenko, about seven miles from a substation linked to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 30 2025 9:22 utc | 84 I once read something that really surprised me: Posted by: Simon | May 30 2025 9:24 utc | 85 A massive tranche of over 2 million documents found in a public database… Posted by: Call it what u will | May 30 2025 9:36 utc | 86 I see that despite the general positive moves along the fronts, Ukraine are still in Tetkino (i.e. Russia) and apparently sending more troops in. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 30 2025 10:21 utc | 87 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 30th May 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-266 Posted by: The Busker | May 30 2025 10:21 utc | 88 Why is that green aphid seeking direct negotiations with the presidents of the USA and Russia? The answer seems obvious: a three-person conversation means powerful legitimization of the insect due to the authority of those present. Posted by: ostro | May 30 2025 10:24 utc | 89 Posted by: Simon | May 30 2025 9:24 utc | 86 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 30 2025 10:39 utc | 90 In response to A rope leash@21, Posted by: Skiffer | May 30 2025 10:39 utc | 91
just a reminder, a few days ago polish president duda was angy because he witnessed how the “ukrainians” that he visits (lvov, ivano etc) are openly celebrating bandera and other nazi-adjecant individuals etc, and he could not undrstand why the “ukrainians” did not understand his outrage about it. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 30 2025 10:43 utc | 92 Posted by: Justpassinby | May 30 2025 10:43 utc | 93 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 30 2025 10:50 utc | 93 A massive tranche of over 2 million documents found in a public database… Posted by: Newbie | May 30 2025 11:05 utc | 94 95 – I suspect so. If you have such a card, you hold onto it, you don’t show it. Posted by: Waldorf | May 30 2025 11:13 utc | 95 Ursula Von Der Leyen has received the Charlemagne prize. In her acceptance speech, she wishes Ukraine, Moldavia, the West Balkan – Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Serbia – Moldavia, and Georgia to join the EU.
The prize is called after Charlemagne, a 9th century European king. None of the countries Ursula wishes to add were part of Charlemagne’s empire. The empire of Charlemagne was France, Germany, the low countries, Switzerland, parts of Austria and Italy. Charlemagne’s empire did not even include Bautzen. Posted by: Passerby | May 30 2025 11:22 utc | 96 91 Posted by: Simon | May 30 2025 12:16 utc | 97 Posted by: Passerby | May 30 2025 11:22 utc | 97 Posted by: Savonarole | May 30 2025 12:18 utc | 98 But let’s not stray from the main issue. Posted by: Simon | May 30 2025 12:25 utc | 99 Zelensky wants a meeting with Putin and Trump. Kellogg is talking about a meeting between Trump, Putin and Zelensky. Trump stated that he is ready for a trilateral meeting. Posted by: Alex Christoforou | May 30 2025 12:26 utc | 100 |
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