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May 25, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-114

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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So it seems that the lines are shifting faster – and that the reliability of pro-Ukrainian mappers is not holding up yo these dynamics. Will we see a collapse of the frontlines soon?

Posted by: Eol | May 25 2025 13:27 utc | 1

The Neo-Nazi dictatorship running Ukraine wants a lot more cash from the EU – if successful European citizens will suffer (economically) far more than they are now. I’ve read that England’s PM (Starmer) has underwritten much of Ukraine’s debt, which British citizens and their children and grandchildren will pay for, for a long time to come.
“Ukraine has proposed that EU member states allocate a fixed portion of their GDP to fund the country’s armed forces. The bloc’s leaders have pledged continued military support for Kiev despite a policy change by US President Donald Trump, who aims to mediate a truce.
Finance Minister Sergey Marchenko outlined the proposal during this week’s G7 finance ministers meeting in Canada, according to a Facebook post published on Thursday.
“What we are proposing is partner participation in funding Ukraine’s Armed Forces, which would effectively integrate them into Europe’s defense structure,” he wrote.
Marchenko added that the cost “would represent only a small share of the EU’s GDP” and could be distributed among countries willing to join the initiative. Kiev wants to launch the new scheme in 2026, with contributions counted toward NATO defense spending targets.
Marchenko’s appeal comes as Ukraine struggles with rising fiscal pressure and an uncertain outlook on foreign assistance. On Tuesday, MP Yaroslav Zheleznyak said the country’s 2025 budget includes a shortfall of 400–500 billion hryvnias ($9.6–12 billion) for financing its armed forces.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 13:34 utc | 2

https://sputnikglobe.com/20250525/russia-boasts-worlds-third-largest-trade-surplus-in-2024-1122126156.html
I post this in contrast to a drift back to “Russia is collapsing” videos. Back to “Russia is just a gas station” clickbait. I guess once a lie has proven successful, they just resurrect it, from time to time.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 25 2025 13:38 utc | 3

WillyOAM ex Australian army. Has volunteered in Ukraine.
His yt from the start of the sloSMO was a conduit for all the Ukrainian bulshite.
But his Sunday upload will have him on the Mirotvorets Death to Traitors list.
Poor bastard is slowly realising what an absolute shitshow Ukraine is, and how western propaganda has prolonged the war.
He knows Ukraine can’t win from here.
He’s angry the owners and controllers of Ukraine are content to fight To The Last Ukrainian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHkOkAOyylA

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 25 2025 13:48 utc | 4

The gents of The Duran spilled a little tea about the bond Sir Keir has formed w/ Zelensky, allegedly of the romantic variety, giggling a bit & smirking as neither guys exactly named the situation—but the implications for Sir Keir’s determination to center *all* UK doings on Project Ukraine come into focus.
Christoforou: “We probably know *why* Starmer is invested in Ukraine.” (tee hee)
Mercouris: (heh, heh, heh) Let me say, there *are* rumors.”
12 minutes in on their 25 May joint convo
Apparently a couple of rumor-swirled controversies are stalking Sir Keir right now.
Scuttlebutt has it that DJT was told by his team that ‘Starmer would soon be gone,’ so DJT did not attempt to include Sir Keir in the group phone conversation after The Call w/ VVP.
Nota Bene: a couple months ago Max Blumenthal was a first-time guest on The Duran and prefaced his livestream remarks by describing Zelensky as “a homosexual who played the piano with his penis.”
That’s not to say that because Zelensky is gay he will therefore hit on other gay men constantly any more than a straight man will hit on straight women constantly.
But

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 14:19 utc | 5

Putin’s Helicopter Caught in Ukrainian Drone Swarm – Commander
https://www.rt.com/russia/618120-putin-helicopter-drone-ukraine/
“The helicopter carrying Russian President Vladimir Putin was caught in the ‘epicenter’ of a massive Ukrainian drone attack while the president was visiting Kursk Region earlier this week, Yury Dashkin, a commander of an air defense division, has revealed…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 14:28 utc | 6

I am still looking for answers to the question how is Russia to protect itself from continuous aggression.. A full and complete surrender agreement from Ukraine will not stop the Russia-phobic beliefs engineered over many years into many national populations? This belief means the defeat, rob and destroy Russia leaders of these nation states and their deep state backers are free to continue attacking Russia.
worse, I see the technology to engineer hate beliefs and fear beliefs into the minds, thoughts and wishes of whole populations is now relatively mature. It works..
To me this problem is far more dangerous to Russia than a direct military attack might be.. and the ends and out of this has not really been discussed at the bar.. IOWs Russia has no defense to the engineering technology that creates Russia-phobic mind sets.
What must Russia achieve to satisfy its stated objectives? I don’t see in anything we have discussed thus far that suggest lasting peace for Russia is possible?

Posted by: snake | May 25 2025 14:31 utc | 7

Kiev is reporting that the U.S.-supplied Patriot Air Defense System is no longer sufficient in response to Iskandr and Kalibr missile strikes.
Russia carried out its largest aerial assault in the SMO overnight, a combo of geran-type drones, Iskandrs and Kalibrs.
This marked the second night in a row of major strikes.
Kiev is now auguring for an upgrade, but what would it be—the THAAD-?
Terminal High Altitude Area Defense

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 14:33 utc | 8

JohnGilberts I saw that article. Definitely not the first attempt on Putin. One wonders if the drone swarm was launched without the knowledge of the Collective Wastes (hat tip to the MOA member who coined that phrase). Seems unlikely.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | May 25 2025 14:34 utc | 9

Cavoli, the commander of United States European Command, predicts that Russia has the capacity to prosecute the SMO @ the current rate for at least the next two years, if not longer.
U.S.intel reveals that VVP is determined to end the SMO w/ a thumpingly robust military victory, as the conflict is an existential one for Russia.
Money Gods @ JPMorgan Chase prophesize that the war in Ukraine will end in July 2025.
Plenty of tea leaves to read.
Talks may resume after Moscow finishes its Peace Memorandum, but it’s clear they won’t be held in the Vatican.
For the Coalition of the Sniffing, it might be a *no pope, no hope* scenario.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 14:46 utc | 10

a) PM (Starmer) has underwritten much of Ukraine’s debt, which British citizens and their children and grandchildren will pay for, for a long time to come.
b) Marchenko’s appeal comes as Ukraine struggles with rising fiscal pressure and an uncertain outlook on foreign assistance. On Tuesday, MP Yaroslav Zheleznyak said the country’s 2025 budget includes a shortfall of 400–500 billion hryvnias ($9.6–12 billion) for financing its armed forces.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 13:34 utc | 2
a) No they won’t. No such mechanism exists that children and grandchildren will pay for Ukraine debt.
It’s like saying UK children and grandchildren will pay for UK’s national debt. Which is complete bonkers and a failure to understand money and what sort of asset debt is.
b) There’s no monetary shortfall. How on earth can their be when Ukraine issues the hryvnias from thin air ? Create and issue as many hryvnias they need.
The shortfall is in equipment and manpower. They haven’t ran out of hryvnias. They have ran out of things they can buy with hryvnias.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 25 2025 14:49 utc | 11

Posted by: snake | May 25 2025 14:31 utc | 7
RE: how to combat Russophobia-?
<< Keep in mind that the deeply Russophobic Collective West comprises 1 bn people on earth. The non-Russophobic RoW comprises @ least 7 bn. India, for instance, has never been Russophobic---neither has China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand. Most countries on the continent of Africa are decidedly Russo-philic. As citizens of the West, we have an outsized view of Russophobia because we are immersed in it.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 14:54 utc | 12

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 13:34 utc | 2
We’ve taught people how money works in Scotland.
Here:
https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2024/02/14/the-self-financing-nation-state-and-the-sovereign-people/
You should learn it instead of writing mainstream fantasies. That will only hold Scotland back. If you want true independence.
Why my whole BBC interview was about full monetary sovereignty for an independent Scotland with our own free floating fiat currency. Went over the unionist myths one by one that they scare children with regarding money. To brainwash Scottish people to vote against Scottish independence.
I destroyed the myths one by one. Until the interviewer conceded and had nowhere else to go. Used his own GROUPTHINK against him to do so.
Posting guff like that above. Is not going to help our fellow Scots. Now is it ?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The guff you posted regarding Ukraine. Has been used against us Scots for decades. Why reinforce the myths ?
If you want independence and for Scots to be free ?

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 25 2025 15:06 utc | 13

Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 13:34 utc | 2
*** England’s PM (Starmer) has underwritten much of Ukraine’s debt, which British citizens and their children and grandchildren will pay for, for a long time to come.***
And it is reported that Blair’s spin-doctor Campbell now says he and Blair did not lie about Iraq having WMD, it merely turned out that what they screamed was not correct. Happy semantics!
Deliberate mass-murder of millions doesen’t matter a damn to the Western political lie machine. I’m fed up of Hitler, Stalin, the Mongols, the Confederates or whoever historical always being demonised — whether true or false, that just inadvertently serves to distract from how totally evil, corrupt and traitorous the present NATO+puppet leaderships truly are (Netanyahu and the Israelis surely are in a cesspit class of their very own).
Now that Russia has established that the breaking up of the USSR was illegal, hope that anti-democratic situation is reversed.
“Our” rulers in London must especially hate such revelations, since the 1707 takeover of Scotland by England was also illegal, corrupt and un-constitutional, hence their regime is (and always has been) illegitimate.
That said, the Scottish Establishment are utterly shit as well.
But Starmer making the British public liable for the prodigious and ever-increasing debts of a cokehead-fronted regime in Kiev that lines its own pockets plus those of its criminal corporate / political masters in the USA, Israel and City of London is a new low. All of course endorsed by the House of Traitors at Westminster, allegedly without them even knowing its full extent.
As for a UK general public so casually sold into perpetual debt-slavery, on top of already being subject to deliberate replacement (itself a form of genocide), just how complacently brain-dead and stupid can they get …

Posted by: Cynic | May 25 2025 15:13 utc | 14

Craig Murray post on X:
The complete lack of curiosity by the UK media as to why a trio of Eastern European /{Ukrainian}/ “male models”, at least one of whom was an “escort”, just burnt several properties belonging to Keir Starmer, is extraordinary.
This is not normal.
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The Internet asks: [questions journalists have zero curiosity about]
What exactly happened with Kier Starmer and 3 gay/bisexual Ukrainian “models”?
Why did they burn his houses down?
How did they even know where his secret house was?
How come the media has been super-quiet about it?
What’s going on exactly? Anyone have some theories?

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 25 2025 15:26 utc | 15

@snake #7
Re: how can russia win peace?
Russia can get peace if its western enemies fight amongst themselves and need Russia to balance the power. Russia needs to be strong enough to be helpful but not dominant. Marches to Berlin or Paris will only breed further wars.
Russia has done this multiple times. As the continental/civiliazational power that they are they have the power base to legitimately threaten it’s neighbours. For peace it needs to know where to draw the line. The line looks like it’s buffer zone in ukraine and the cental Asian republics.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 15:35 utc | 16

We’ve taught people how money works in Scotland.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 25 2025 15:06 utc | 13

MMT bullshit won’t fly here. The Magic Money Tree (aka Modern Monetary Theory) is a progressive wet dream that is failing spectacularly in real-time these days.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 15:43 utc | 17

Russia has done this multiple times.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 15:35 utc | 16

Russia’s been doing this it’s entire life. This is the first time in history wherein it’s tormentors are actually in decline. If anything it’ll get easier going forward.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 15:50 utc | 18

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 23rd May 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-76d

Posted by: The Busker | May 25 2025 16:01 utc | 19

Sun of Alabama (11).
It wasn’t that long ago – that the British taxpayer finished paying-off the Yanks, for aid in WWII – 2006 I think – via the Lend-Lease Programme.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 16:06 utc | 20

It wasn’t that long ago – that the British taxpayer finished paying-off the Yanks, for aid in WWII – 2006 I think – via the Lend-Lease Programme.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 16:06 utc | 20

Yep, which begs the question why they didn’t just print & pay it off immediately. MMT doesn’t survive even a smidgen of critical thinking or historical analysis.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 16:18 utc | 21

“You should learn it instead of writing mainstream fantasies”
Sun of Alabama (13).
Learn what? – and what are the fantasies you speak of?
I must confess I read Ian Lawson’s blog quite regularly – but I don’t recall reading your article.
New flash -Scotland hasn’t broken free from Westminster and its House Jocks yet – its not guff to expect Westminster to lay the costs at taxpayers feet – history has shown us that with the Covid vaccines (fastracked ) corporate buddies of the politicians making a fortune from the taxpayer then providing inferior PPE, not to mention the banks robbing the public purse in the 2008 bank crash.
These things have nothing to do with Scotland ditching this rancid union – Scottish taxpayers wouldn’t pay for Ukraine if Scotland were independent – but the SNP has to go they are utterly corrupt – infact there’s not one indy party at Holyrood.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 16:25 utc | 22

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 16:18 utc | 21

why they didn’t just print & pay it off immediately.

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I am tired of the canard that equates ANY deficit spending with MMT.
MMT is very specific that deficit spending MUST be on real physical infrastructure – a long term investment that will pay dividends long after any short term deficits have been paid off.
MMT does not say you can just print money and use it to “pay for” stuff that’s already been built! That’s a neoclassical made up strawman. Its not MMT.

Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 16:29 utc | 23

snake | May 25 2025 14:31 utc | 7–
EuroNazis will try to sway their citizenry, but most of that citizenry is being mindful of how its interests are being trampled to form another European Wehrmacht. Another longstanding behavioral pattern amongst European states is reemerging and that’s the bickering they engage between themselves that generated so many of Europe’s wars prior to WW1. Another spanner is what’s happening politically in the former East Germany where AfD has become the dominant party. Europe isn’t a collective, while Russia and its former Soviet pals are becoming one hat’s far stronger than the first iteration.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 25 2025 16:30 utc | 24

Cynic (14).
Potential PM’s Presidents – will do and say anything to get into power, to get our votes – once in power they do what THEY and THEIR corporate buddies want – they throw us a few scraps, in the form of socialist policies to shut us up
Don’t you know? it always the taxpayer that foots the bill for governments madcap ventures – we elect them to do our bidding but they do their own bidding with our money – and they also bring in their corporate buddies to share in the taxpayers cash.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 16:31 utc | 25

I am still looking for answers to the question how is Russia to protect itself from continuous aggression.. A full and complete surrender agreement from Ukraine will not stop the Russia-phobic beliefs engineered over many years into many national populations? This belief means the defeat, rob and destroy Russia leaders of these nation states and their deep state backers are free to continue attacking Russia. posted by snake
The answer is to drop nuclear weapons on Kiev and Lviv. The shock should be enough to stop all provocations smack in their tracks. Simultaneously Oreshnik the NATO forward bases in Romania and Poland. That should do the trick. Trump will not risk NYC for Kiev. So defacto the alliance is broken. If the French or the British try something Orteshnik their weapons manufacturing sites. Watch how everything will go silent.

Posted by: Stierlitz | May 25 2025 16:31 utc | 26

@ Stierlitz | May 25 2025 16:31 utc | 26 who is advocating using nukes…..sorry, you are in the wrong bar…..don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Our civilization war will end with the surrender of global private finance and their decline will end the funded aggression across the globe by my God Of Mammon cult…..that is the nuclear option we are watching unfold……go long Russia/China

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 25 2025 16:38 utc | 27

The Buffer Zone as depicted by Medvedev in this GIF provided by Escobar. It’s what many expect.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 25 2025 16:38 utc | 28

Re: Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 14:28 utc | 6

Putin’s Helicopter Caught in Ukrainian Drone Swarm – Commander
https://www.rt.com/russia/618120-putin-helicopter-drone-ukraine/
“The helicopter carrying Russian President Vladimir Putin was caught in the ‘epicenter’ of a massive Ukrainian drone attack while the president was visiting Kursk Region earlier this week, Yury Dashkin, a commander of an air defense division, has revealed…”

The Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces is obviously a legitimate target in a War.
Same goes for Zelensky obviously.

Posted by: Julian | May 25 2025 16:43 utc | 29

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 25 2025 15:26 utc | 15
RE: theories about why the UK media does not report on Sir Keir’s controversy
<< Erm, @Melaleuca...let me direct you back to #5 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 14:19 utc | 5 It would take a lot for the pro-Ukraine Regime Media in the UK to inquire into a scandal that in any way, shape, form or fashion reflected negatively on Ukraine somehow---or the funding that props Ukraine up. Bad PR means the money stream might have to stop. Can't have that. Best to make this little matter go quietly away. Scuttlebutt has it that Sir Keir will no longer be @ 10 Downing St come August.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 16:44 utc | 30

@23
Conquering Russia what Hitler fail to is justifying MMT.
Un conquered Russia is threat bc the MMT is unfounded by its resources.
The new dark continent starts at Kursk.

Posted by: paddy | May 25 2025 16:49 utc | 31

Posted by: snake #7
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 15:35 utc | 16
RE: how can Russia win the peace-?
<< Recall how long the Brits and the French battled each other and scarcely knew peace in their respective lands. WWI changed that perhaps forever. They needed each other gravely in order to fight off an existential foe. Really altered the calculus of their r'ship. Conflicts may arise over fishing rights or over the flow of immigrants, but those are *normal* tensions between otherwise good neighbors. Nota Bene: the *phobia* aspect of Russophobia, as played out in the collective West, raises the degree of animosity toward Russia and Russians to the level of ethnic hate. On account of that, it is almost in a singular category.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 16:52 utc | 32

Posted by: karlof1 | May 25 2025 16:38 utc | 28
I think the map looks about right. That will be the outcome I presume. The realists in the Kremlin probably knew it all along. What a cursed land with a masochistic population.
They Banderites should make Leopold von Sacher-Masoch the patron saint of Lviv. He can give them solace and lick their self inflicted wounds.

Posted by: lex talionis | May 25 2025 16:52 utc | 33

“Russia’s been doing this it’s entire life. This is the first time in history wherein it’s tormentors are actually in decline. If anything it’ll get easier going forward.”
This is patently ridiculous. There’s been many swings in history where russias power rises in relation to western states. It’s fan boy takes like this that are the bane of my existence.
Easier? Sure until it isn’t and Moscow is burning. Also been repeated multiple times. My strategic vision is rooted in long term stability, pursuing short term advantages like their permanent is the problem.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 16:59 utc | 34

Posted by: Stierlitz | May 25 2025 16:31 utc | 26
RE: our colleague is advocating that Russia use nukes on Ukraine-? Did @ Stierlitz not pay the cover charge-? Where’s the bouncer-?
<< Read about how the Russian Federation quite literally pacified Chechnya. Note too that the etymological root of the word "pacify" is the Latin 'pace' Pace = peace Russian has done this before and will do it even better w/ whatever needs it in Ukraine.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 17:00 utc | 35

When the dust finally settles the RUF [fatherland] shall be victorious.

Posted by: pepe | May 25 2025 17:08 utc | 36

This is patently ridiculous. There’s been many swings in history where russias power rises in relation to western states. It’s fan boy takes like this that are the bane of my existence.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 16:59 utc | 34

Not a fanboy, just a realist recognizing the decline of the west, the ascent of the East and the new multipolarity.
Wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 17:10 utc | 37

“The answer is to drop nuclear weapons on Kiev and Lviv. The shock should be enough to stop all provocations smack in their tracks. Simultaneously Oreshnik the NATO forward bases in Romania and Poland. That should do the trick. Trump will not risk NYC for Kiev. So defacto the alliance is broken. If the French or the British try something Orteshnik their weapons manufacturing sites. Watch how everything will go silent.”
This is also ridiculous. Make the whole world fear you and give them concrete examples? Guarantees centuries of hostility. Is that peace?
Fan boy take oh my lord, please stop. Do you not understand how states balance power against each other? Balance of power is the term. Russias enemies need to fear their neighbour’s more than Russia. Russia destroying things and putting armies against their borders isn’t sustainable long term.
Putin talks about the development a lot and development isn’t permanent militarism that eventually shrinks and distorts development.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 17:11 utc | 38

@37 tj
Read my second paragraph in conjunction with the first, I think you focused on the fan boy dig and ignored the rest of my message.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 17:13 utc | 39

Overlooking the obvious is what all distraction is designed to do.
Zelensky says no to a three-day ceasefire over May 9. Continues attacking Russia physically. Threatens Russia through the media using antics a five-year-old would be ashamed of.
Then, suddenly, wants a 30-day ceasefire, out of the blue, before his threats have a chance to come to fruition. Istanbul, we’ll all go to Istanbul, but Zelensky will only meet face-to-face with Putin. Then ever gullible (as presented to us by the Captured media) President Trump announces he will go to Istanbul if Putin does.
Well, good thing for the world, Putin is not an idiot like the West’s so-called elites. And he does not go.
Trump then decides not to go.
Putin, by being smarter than the average ankle-biting chihauhau of the West (not a high bar to overcome), has thus saved the Donald’s life.
The proof is in the drone attack on Putin’s helicopter two days ago.
But man, what a PR victory that would’ve been for the Zionists, the coalition of the Sniffers, the CIA of the Nulands, Mossad, MI6-5-4-3…, et al., to snuff the two leaders of the world standing in the way of war, war, and moar war.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | May 25 2025 17:15 utc | 40

Its not MMT.
Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 16:29 utc | 23

I’ve been following Kelton, Keen and other MMT priests for years and the arguments are all still BS. It’s a monstrous lie hidden beneath a thousand fiat truths, which is why it never has and never will go mainstream. You notice how they conspicuously avoid debating Austrians? And again, MMT is being actively discredited as all these fiat-fueled governments destroy themselves in real-time. Got gold?

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 17:22 utc | 41

Why would three super-sexy Ukrainian male models, as gay as gay can be, as seen in photos and career hopes, all over the internet — light on fire properties that belong / belonged to Kweir S. ?
Surely that is a very dangerous move, a v. strong statement, over-the-top revengeful? *As coming from rent boys* If that is so…
For what? Not being paid, facing broken promises about advantages? That leads to nasty phone calls, spitting threats, demands that must be given into.. Prompt lavish payments, other favors, etc. from the other end, follow.
This story, what is being leaked to the MSM, makes no sense whatsoever. What am I missing?
msm story round up,
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/keir-starmer-arson-attack-russia-investigation-b2757455.html

Posted by: Noirette | May 25 2025 17:24 utc | 42

The U.S. has been “a direct party in the conflict with Russia,” according to the nytimes, and yet is attempting to persuade Russia to delete Vladimir Medinsky from its negotiating team during the next round of talks (if the talks even happen ultimately.)
Scuttlebutt has it the Americans find Medinsky too hard-lined, too inflexible, too-hawkish.
Perhaps in Medinsky we have found the Russian corollary to Lindsey, in political stance for his particular country *only*—-not in other Lindsey-esque attributes.
Compared to Medvedev, for instance, Medinsky has been a very low-keyed figure. I have known of him mainly as the director of the Russian Military History Museum in Moscow and then also the Minister of Culture in VVP’s admin.
In that capacity, Medinsky tried to shame the U.S. cemetery in Valhalla, NY to exhume the body of Rachmaninov and allow his remains to be repatriated to Russia. It was hare-brained. Even Rachmaninov’s American grandchildren railed against Medinsky’s *demand,* stating that they wanted their grandfather to rest in peace in Valhalla next to their grandmother.
At any rate, it is strange that the U.S., which has indicated that it will allow Ukraine and Russia to handle the negotiations, has interfered to the extent of trying to decide who negotiates on Moscow’s team.
Can you say “doing too much”-?

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 17:28 utc | 43

Posted by: Eighthman | May 25 2025 13:38 utc | 3
Some posters here have opined that the West’s only surviving now due to its nukes, so the lie is not exclusively told by one side. Guess it’s the ideologist’s equivalent of a reassuring warm mug of cocoa, before bedtime.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 25 2025 13:48 utc | 4
His position has been increasingly ‘modified’ as he gently moves his audience’s unrealistic expectation incrementally, in preparation for their encounter with the military/political reality. I listened infrequently but the failed Ukrainian offensive, followed by the Kursk debacle, seemed to affect the tenor and direction of his coverage.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 14:33 utc | 8
Or the operators are not as well trained, or are they no longer using ‘advisors’, as footage shows them firing salvos of six missiles at a time, with two batteries firing on similar trajectories. Lots of dollars burnt, but for what end, as explosions on the ground are seen occurring seconds after launch.
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 25 2025 15:26 utc | 15
Pure speculation. On occasion I’ve been in possession of information way above my pay grade, including a number ‘super-secret’ addresses. I didn’t reveal them, firstly because it would have been a gross betrayal, and secondly because I didn’t want to spend hours having a ‘chat’ with SB/MI, as they went on a leak hunt. Perhaps though somebody less honest and braver decided to turn that info into a nice payday. My guess would be that Starmer has been the recipient of the the ‘horse’s head in the bed’ move, orchestrated by the SBU, then again plenty of Labour MP’s, including those in his Cabinet hate, or are beginning to hate, him so who knows.
Anyway, doesn’t Lord Ali have the role of, ‘Provider of the PM’s Pleasure Hole’, his wife sure as hell doesn’t.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 16:18 utc | 21
Which is why the cabal needed a senile figurehead and his robotic ‘friend’ to be able to push that financial ‘theory’ to its logical conclusion.

Posted by: Milites | May 25 2025 17:32 utc | 44

I think you focused on the fan boy dig and ignored the rest of my message.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 17:13 utc | 39

Nah, I read the whole thing. The future isn’t a linear progression of the past. It IS a continuing war over resources and historically that’s always been the underpinning of Europe’s attempts to subjugate and pillage Russia. The problem is that Europe was already down to using Russia’s resources to fuel their efforts, and now (stupidly) they’ve cut that off even that and going forward simply do not possess the means to be the threat they’ve always been… and likely never will be again, at least for our lifetimes.
The US? We still have untapped resources and “Fortress America” to remain a major power but our pullback from the world has just begun. The fall of the dollar itself will hamstring any ongoing efforts to undermine foreign governments everywhere. Those that continue will likely be concentrated on China.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 17:35 utc | 45

Putin’s Helicopter Caught in Ukrainian Drone Swarm – Commander
….
Posted by: Julian | May 25 2025 16:43 utc | 29
But a successful assassination attempt on Putin from Ukraine would likely lead Russia’s remaining political and military leadership to eliminate all threats posed by Ukraine within the next few hours. The idea that Ukraine will rise within its former borders and armed to the teeth by the West, if only Putin dies, seems rather naive to me. Perhaps that’s why they get along so well with EU representatives.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | May 25 2025 17:35 utc | 46

“Possible Russian involvement in arson attacks on 3 properties belonging to Sir Keir Starmer”—this is the lead article in today’s FT, the peach-colored newspaper.
British prosecutors are keeping an open-mind that Russia is involved in these arson attacks.
Prosecutors even believe that the arsonists might have unwittingly been the Kremlin’s useful idiots in these attacks.
In fact, the prosecutors are stating that perhaps even the Kremlin did not order the arson attacks but they happened nonetheless at some kind of Russian behest.
One of the arsonists, now in custody in Britain, posted amply on social media sites his support of Ukraine in the war—tons of pix of Ukrainian soldiers.
The British prosecutor can’t figure out what the motives for the arson attacks were. Obviously, this is an investigation that will be A) quashed quickly or B) reveal that Russia did it or C) will rapidly go off the rails.
Check the over/under on Sir Keir leaving 10 Downing St by the 1st of August, if not before.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 17:36 utc | 47

Anonymous? Where are you?
We’re back at over 20 km even on DS
AFU casualties are edging up to 1.400
Arms shipped to Odessa get iskandered.
Also relevant to ukraine (and extended theater)
“Historic Kill”: S-400 Shot Down Pakistan’s AWACS Aircraft 314 KM Away During Indo-Pak War
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/exclusive-s-400-secures-furthest-kill-during/
The S-400 surface-to-air missile shot down multiple Pakistani air-launched cruise missiles and drones, and proved its real worth during the India-Pakistan brief war.
…. the Indian S-400 has created a world record by securing the longest kill by an SAM by hitting an aerial target at 314 kilometers. With the launch, the SAM took out a force multiplier of the Pakistan Air Force’s Saab Erieye-2000 flying radar.
This is the second loss of the Saab Erieye-2000 flying radar, the source told EurAsian Times, on the condition of anonymity as he is not authorized to speak to the media.

Posted by: Newbie | May 25 2025 17:37 utc | 48

Which is why the cabal needed a senile figurehead and his robotic ‘friend’ to be able to push that financial ‘theory’ to its logical conclusion.
Posted by: Milites | May 25 2025 17:32 utc | 43

Indeed.
Congress has already shown that they won’t let the books be cleaned up in an organized fashion — too many lobbyists & bureaucrats heavily invested in the status quo — therefore push the system until it breaks and is re-established in a decidedly unorganized fashion.
Either way the end of the current system is approaching.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 17:42 utc | 49

” MMT is very specific that deficit spending MUST be on real physical infrastructure – a long term investment that will pay dividends long after any short term deficits have been paid off.
Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 16:29 utc | 23 ”
The main, by design, problem with current monetary systems is that as soon as money is printed a certain group immediately attaches interest to it. Evey other issue is miniscule compared to that. Governments need to go back to issuing debt free money.

Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 17:42 utc | 50

The British prosecutor can’t figure out what the motives for the arson attacks were. Obviously, this is an investigation that will be A) quashed quickly or B) reveal that Russia did it or C) will rapidly go off the rails.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 17:36 utc | 46

Investigators must’ve attended the same schools as those looking into NS2.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 17:44 utc | 51

Reports in various Ukrainian outlets of a heavy overnight bombardment by Russian missiles and drones.
– at least 3 districts in the capital city
– multiple strikes in Zhytomyr region, no specific locations reported
– strikes on at least 6 towns in the Kiev region
– strikes in the cities of Nikolaev and Khmelnitsky
– industrial buildings destroyed and damaged in Ternopil and Sumy
– multiple “arrivals” in the Kherson region, up to 30 localities reportedly affected
– reports of FAB-500 and FAB-1500 used in Kupyansk
These were all compiled from about a dozen different reports, I can provide links if anyone desperately wants them.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 17:45 utc | 52

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 17:44 utc | 50
RE: the arson attack is receiving the NS2 treatment, investigation-wise
<< Right out of the same playbook for investigating the targeted assassination in Spain last week.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 17:48 utc | 53

I’ve been following Kelton, Keen and other MMT priests for years and the arguments are all still BS. It’s a monstrous lie hidden beneath a thousand fiat truths, which is why it never has and never will go mainstream. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 17:22 utc | 41

You notice how they conspicuously avoid debating Austrians? And again, MMT is being actively discredited as all these fiat-fueled governments destroy themselves in real-time. Got gold?

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First, you do not respond to the fact that your strawman was not MMT.
Second, your rebuttal to decades of scholarship is “all still BS”. How authoritative.
Third, there are even more decades of scholarship debunking the Austrians. Philip Mirowski has done much of it, as he labels it “the Neoliberal Thought Collective”. Try reading 8 points of the neoliberal program 8 points of the neoliberal program

Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 17:48 utc | 54

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 17:45 utc | 51
RE: Iskandr & drone attacks pervasively over Ukraine
<< This was the largest attack yet during the SMO. Military Summary Channel did a great write-up this morning.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 17:49 utc | 55

I was just thinking to myself how the “nuke ’em” crowd has been pretty quiet lately. Neofeudalfuture must want us all dead, talking about “Nuke Kiev/Lvov” and Nuke/Oreshnik the capitals or manufacturing hubs of any country that dares utter a peep afterwards. As if said countries don’t have nukes of their own.
It’s always been my understanding that such things would lead to the destruction of entire nations and/or The End Of The World As We Know It. There’s a reason only two such devices have ever been used in the eighty years since their creation. The type of scenario NFF and God knows who else advocates is exactly the reason why the Cold War never went hot and why terms like Mutually Assured Destruction exist. Now granted, the US is trying to wargame how to “win” a nuclear war, which is basically how many of the rabble are Acceptable Losses while the elite hide in their bunkers and underground complexes until it all blows over – which, isn’t even itself new, fiction is quite full of characters who would happily sacrifice their own countries/nations/powers if it meant they got to be ruler over whatever was left – but still. M.A.D. exists. If it was simple as drop one nuke on then Lord knows how many more countries would have such scarring. Hell even in the Korean War, MacArthur wanted to nuke the North Koreans and if I remember, that’s one of the reasons he got fired.
So no, Russia can’t “just” drop nukes or Oreshniks on Kiev, Lvov, or any other city. People act like these are video game nukes where you drop one and it’s either instant win, or the enemy’s just severely damaged. Also, Russia, already demonized by the West, would be promptly classified as the only country to nuke another country (see how fast we’d forget about Japan/order Japan to forget about themselves) and made to be a pariah.
So I cannot, for the life of me, understand why people like NeoFeudalFuture and others keep acting like “just” “one” nuke/Oreshnik/etc. would fix everything.
It wouldn’t.
So why keep grumbling about how you don’t understand why Putin doesn’t just get it over with.

Posted by: Stark | May 25 2025 18:00 utc | 56

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 25 2025 14:49 utc | 11
a) No they won’t. No such mechanism exists that children and grandchildren will pay for Ukraine debt.
“The UK’s final payments on World War II debts to the US and Canada were made in December 2006. These payments, which were six years late due to suspended payments in previous years, completed the repayment of a significant loan extended by the US to help Britain finance the war effort.”
Children, grandchildren, grand-grandchildren ….etc. They will pay. It is their destiny.They are in debt that can not be written off. Economy of war debt. Old as a war itself.

Posted by: clement | May 25 2025 18:03 utc | 57

@55 stark
I was quoting someone else. I guess should’ve stuck to my header format for clarity.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 25 2025 18:04 utc | 58

This was the largest attack yet during the SMO.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 17:49 utc | 54
Wasn’t Russia supposed to have run out of missiles…?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 18:05 utc | 59

And furthermore, I read this in the last open thread last week, one of you made a very good point: the US can cause all the death and destruction it does because it does so from the other side of the world, with two big oceans to protect it. Sooner or later, this war is going to end, and Russia is going to need its neighbors to get along with them. “They nuked us!” would be the rallying cry of every Ukrainian, however many are left, forever. You see how they openly hate Russians now, how do you think they’d feel then? And then what choice would Russia have? Exterminate them all and be no better than Israel in Gaza, or try to make peace – and again, we’ve all seen how impossible peace is now, imagine how much more impossible it’d be with everything going on AND the fact that Russia nuked Ukraine – and I guess just live with the endless terrorist attacks. And again, people are already calling for said terrorist attacks just because “the only good Russian is a dead Russian”-type sentiment.
And people wonder why Russia hasn’t let nukes fly.
Like I get it, Sid Meier’s: Civilization VII came out a few months ago and if you’d had it your way things would be different, you’d have this shit wrapped up in 20 turns or less, but please. This isn’t a video game. There is no “just” detonate a nuclear device.

Posted by: Stark | May 25 2025 18:08 utc | 60

@57 Neofeudalfuture
Fair enough. Excuse yourself from my comments then since everything else I said about the “why doesn’t he just nuke ’em?!” crowd stands.

Posted by: Stark | May 25 2025 18:11 utc | 61

It wasn’t that long ago – that the British taxpayer finished paying-off the Yanks, for aid in WWII – 2006 I think – via the Lend-Lease Programme.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 25 2025 16:06 utc | 20
They paid a little bit for support in the Second World War, but there is still a little something from the First World War – but:
What’s a little debt beteen friends ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4757181.stm

Posted by: Oliver Krug | May 25 2025 18:12 utc | 62

Third, there are even more decades of scholarship debunking the Austrians.
Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 17:48 utc | 53

Scholarship? Ivory tower intellectuals with no connection to the real world, same place MMT emanated.
You fail to address the fact that MMT hasn’t ever worked in the real world, either now or historically, otherwise no fiat would ever die and yet they all do. Furthermore, NO single government — an absurdly natural constituency — has openly embraced it despite all having fiat currencies. You could perhaps argue that they quietly embrace it, but then there’d be constant propaganda to win over the easily influenced masses… yet, nothing. Yes, MMT has taken all of the “benefits” of fiat and wrapped them up in a bow such as to couch the theory in a semblance of credibility but the underlying foundation is still rotten to the core. A lot like Socialism and Climate Change, to which MMT has very strong ties and similarly biased origins.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 18:35 utc | 63

That’s what happens when you like to declare wars that you can only win with the help of your big brother. By the way, good luck with your involvement in Ukraine without the help of the USA, dear English and French!

Posted by: Oliver Krug | May 25 2025 18:40 utc | 64

Wasn’t Russia supposed to have run out of missiles…?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 18:05 utc | 58

NAFOs are back to them running out of armor shortly. The comedy never ends.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 18:41 utc | 65

Ivory tower intellectuals with no connection to the real world, same place MMT emanated.

Wow, you tout the Austrians who are the original ivory tower intellectuals. Sneering for thee, but not for me.
Once again, all you have is sneering.

You fail to address the fact that MMT hasn’t ever worked in the real world,

First, no government has ever tried it. You can’t say it didn’t work if it was never tried.

a semblance of credibility but the underlying foundation is still rotten to the core

More sneering without any proof. You continue to try to equate MMT with the massive, bipartisan tax cuts and deficit spending, such as Bernanke’s “helicopter money”. Try as you might, you can’t blame MMT for the current mess.
Why don’t you just admit you are a “there is no such thing as society” Thatcherite.

Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 18:53 utc | 66

Ivory tower intellectuals with no connection to the real world, same place MMT emanated.

Wow, you tout the Austrians who are the original ivory tower intellectuals. Sneering for thee, but not for me.
Once again, all you have is sneering.

You fail to address the fact that MMT hasn’t ever worked in the real world,

First, no government has ever tried it. You can’t say it didn’t work if it was never tried.

a semblance of credibility but the underlying foundation is still rotten to the core

More sneering without any proof. You continue to try to equate MMT with the massive, bipartisan tax cuts and deficit spending, such as Bernanke’s “helicopter money”. Try as you might, you can’t blame MMT for the current mess.
Why don’t you just admit you are a “there is no such thing as society” Thatcherite.

Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 18:53 utc | 67

Patience is wearing thin …
Denys Prokopenko Azov commander
Swarm drone attack on Putin’s helicopter in Kursk … retribution was immediate … more to come … Volodymyr is moaning again

Posted by: Oui | May 25 2025 18:59 utc | 68

First, no government has ever tried it. You can’t say it didn’t work if it was never tried.
Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 18:53 utc | 65

OMG, going with THAT argument? That’s like saying nobody’s ever done Socialism correctly. LMAO.
You’ve just thoroughly destroyed your own position. If there was even a scintilla of credibility to MMT then it would’ve been tried by now. The claims are just too attractive for progressives to resist… and yet somehow they still do.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 18:59 utc | 69

Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 18:53 utc | 65
Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 18:53 utc | 66
“Jesus wept.”; the shortest verse in the Bible, and also my reaction to your cluttering up a thread on Ukraine by posting the same damn off-topic thing twice.
Folks, please can we keep things somewhat topic-related?
Thank you.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 19:02 utc | 70

I can provide links if anyone desperately wants them.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 17:45 utc | 51

We good. We trust you 🙂

Posted by: Avtonom | May 25 2025 19:04 utc | 71

Folks, please can we keep things somewhat topic-related?
Thank you.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 19:02 utc | 69

I was just thinking that myself.
Some NAFO was stating that the factory in Kiev that got hammered didn’t make anything. Want to bet it was a major source of those drone swarms?

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 19:06 utc | 72

Some NAFO was stating that the factory in Kiev that got hammered didn’t make anything

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 19:06 utc | 71
Heh, just like the NAFO claims that Yuzhmash was empty/disused. If that was true then there should be no problem with sharing images/videos of the place.
These clowns just don’t understand just how much “on the ground” intel Russia gets from pro-Russian sources inside Ukraine.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 19:14 utc | 73

The way that I understand MMT is that there is no deficit spending at all, because there is no debt involved.
The government issues money without debt, instead of the way all governments issue money now, by borrowing it from bankers, with interest due.
The government issues the money to pay for labor and services necessary to keep a population employed and prosperous.
Obviously, the money issued only works in the issuing country, meaning that buying other country’s resources is unfeasible unless there is an equal trade balance.
As far as I can see, only Russia and China would be capable of maintaining such a balance.
MMT requires autarky. Americans prefer imperialism based on holding the world’s reserve currency, debt, and running a trade imbalance.
This is why they react so strongly to any suggestion that we not keep indebting ourselves to the bankers.

Posted by: wagelaborer | May 25 2025 19:21 utc | 74

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 19:02 utc | 69
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Guilty as charged, twice. I will just shut up on this thread.
Sorry, but the MMT stuff gets my goat, no matter where its published.
Second, sorry about the double post. I don’t even know how it happened. Typepad is so unpredictable.
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Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 19:06 utc | 71

I was just thinking that myself.

You are a total hypocrite. It was YOU who started the off-topic.

Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 19:21 utc | 75

So, has anyone figured out yet what Ukraine can do to win this conflict and depose Putin from power?
I noticed that my pal, Anonymous, has been scarce recently.
I miss the reports of how Russia isn’t winning fast enough.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 25 2025 19:22 utc | 76

In a general round-up, Andrei M. reports the use of Kinzhal in the overnight attacks: https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2025/05/yes-info-146.html
Notably absent from the Ukrainian reports I looked at was any claim to have shot them down…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 19:26 utc | 77

The assassination of PORTNOV in Madrid is revealing according to the daily Ytube podcast in Italian by Nicolai Lilin. PORTNOV was a brilliant lawyer and rewrote the Ukrainian penal code in 2012 to the benefit of the then established oligarchs like Kolomoiski. These were however sidelined by the Soros linked pro globalist oligarchs, which lead to Euro Maidan in 2014. Temporarily Portnov took the side of the old East Ukrainian oligarchs (Yanukovich) in 2014 and consequently had to emigrate.
Kolomoisky then financed Zelenski as an alternative to the globalist Poroshenko but Z in the end turned against the “old” oligarchs and favoured the new globalist ilk. PORTNOV still wanted to influence the elections in 2025 (2026?) and the succession of Z. The last months he bought anti Z ads in Ukrainian papers and went to Ukraine a week ago. Then he was killed upon his return in Madrid by professionals. Obviously Z’s mark according to Lilin.

Posted by: Teraspol | May 25 2025 19:34 utc | 78

Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 16:29 utc | 23
Like the Union did with the greenback.
Or alternately NAZI Germany did with the MEFO note.
Or William Plantagenet did with the tally stick.
Or any company town did with company script.
Or the American colonies did(until the end of the 7 years war when the city took back its power) with colonial script.
These people seem to love having London and New York having the power of script.
Nothing modern about it BTW.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 25 2025 19:34 utc | 79

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 25 2025 17:36 utc | 46
Another story says that the arsonists are gays. The rest you can imagine. And that those facts are linked to the Portnov assassination. He had interesting things to reveal.
Is it just a story? Or?

Posted by: Naive | May 25 2025 19:38 utc | 80

I noticed that my pal, Anonymous, has been scarce recently.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 25 2025 19:22 utc | 75
And where has @Napoleon got to? I miss his constant reassurances that Schrödingers F-16s were going to be the mother of all game-changers…
And the Irish Garden Gnome must be sleeping off a poitín hangover somewhere, haven’t seen his pseudo-cryptic nonsense for some time.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 19:39 utc | 81

You are a total hypocrite. It was YOU who started the off-topic.
Posted by: john brewster | May 25 2025 19:21 utc | 74

LOL, I was responding to SoA’s “We’ve taught people how money works in Scotland.” You’re the one that got his panties in a bunch.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 19:54 utc | 82

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 17:42 utc | 48
‘Either way the end of the current system is approaching.’
It’s already arrived. What do you think MAGA represents? It might not be to your liking, it might not be going in your preferred direction, but its trajectory is unmistakable, as is the growing fear of the DS it targets, hence the ‘covert’ calls for Trump’s assassination. Stochastic terrorism anyone, or has that leftist-buzzword been memory-holed now?

Posted by: Milites | May 25 2025 19:54 utc | 83

And as for

So, has anyone figured out yet what Ukraine can do to win this conflict and depose Putin from power?

They tried that last summer, launching a 3-day operation to invade Kursk and march on Moscow to topple the evil Putler regime.
It all fell flat though, when they ran out of microchips robbed from domestic appliances…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 19:54 utc | 84

Notably absent from the Ukrainian reports I looked at was any claim to have shot them down…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 19:26 utc | 76

The absence of new Oreshnik sitings has to be scaring the bejeezus out of NATO.
BTW, you see the RF’s new anti-drone drones? I’ve been wondering how long it would take for those to show up and now they’re finally in use. Some great videos out there.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 19:57 utc | 85

Actually, I suppose ”MMT” could apply to this thread:
Many Missiles Thundering
Does that work???

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 20:01 utc | 86

Many Missiles Thundering…
Does that work???
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 20:01 utc | 85

That actually works, ironically. 😉

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 20:03 utc | 87

@Melaleuca | Sun, 25 May 2025 15:26:00 GMT | 15

What’s going on exactly? Anyone have some theories?

Does Sir Keir have enemies? Yes, among them Russia. Did Russia send three gay arsonists for Starmer, or did they come by themselves?
The media silence is a sign that it’s something serious.
It could also be blackmail by a third party, like some disgruntled oligarch.

Posted by: persiflo | May 25 2025 20:14 utc | 88

It’s already arrived. What do you think MAGA represents?
Posted by: Milites | May 25 2025 19:54 utc | 82

The Biden administration was merely the pendulum swinging to the insane far left end of the political spectrum and MAGA being part of the swing back, but neither side truly appears interested in righting the ship. [I’m still amazed at the transformation of the left; JFK would be MAGA these days.]
I’d trace the true crisis back to the Great Recession myself. The minute Bernanke went full-on QE (and the EU went negative rates) the end was nigh, it just takes a long time to play out.
It’s no coincidence that conventional oil production peaked back then. Fracking’s bought some time but it’s taken a huge amount of financial gimmickry to get us this far and now that’s rolling over as well.
Again, it’s all ultimately a resource war, and that’s why the SMO is existential to all parties involved.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 20:14 utc | 89

It could also be blackmail by a third party, like some disgruntled oligarch.
Posted by: persiflo | May 25 2025 20:14 utc | 87

It would certainly be 5D chess if the FSB managed to motivate NAFO’s to kill Starmer.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 20:16 utc | 90

German Defense Minister Teases Possible Conscription in 2026
https://www.rt.com/news/618107-germany-mandatory-conscription-pistorius/
“Germany could revive compulsory conscription as early as next year if not enough people join the army voluntarily to meet the country’s NATO obligations, Defense Minister Boris Pistorius has said…citing ‘threats’ from Russia.
Moscow has dismissed speculation that it has any intention of attacking NATO countries as ‘nonsense,’ accusing the West of trying to scare the citizens of EU countries and justify increased military budgets…”
Patrick Baab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ej0yAMA1o
“German journalist lays bare the harsh realities of Ukraine. ‘People have learned the West is using them as a sacrifice and a tool. People want peace.’

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 20:20 utc | 91

The absence of new Oreshnik sitings has to be scaring the bejeezus out of NATO.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 25 2025 19:57 utc | 84
Agreed, and Russia not using it willy-nilly on inappropriate targets is adding to its mystique/scariness/threat potential.
it freaks the psychopathic elite out, having seen it once but not being able to gather much in the way of useful data, because everything was obliterated. The pictures of rusty old water tanks and central heating pumps that the Ukrainians paraded as remnants of the device probably didn’t help to calm nerves.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 20:24 utc | 92

@steel_porcupine | Sun, 25 May 2025 17:00:00 GMT | 35

Pace = peace

From pax, the hammerblow.

Posted by: persiflo | May 25 2025 20:24 utc | 93

The comedian is too funny. After attacking Russia he is getting back what he deserves. He cries to Trump as if Russia attacked Ukraine yesterday out of the blue. He should count his blessings that Russia didn’t use nukes on him. Not a bad idea to do a repeat of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Ukraine to speed up the end of the war. Kiev, Lviv, Odessa, Karkiv and Nikolaiv are prime targets. Bust them open for peace.

Posted by: Jason | May 25 2025 20:26 utc | 94

Posted by: Newbie | May 25 2025 17:37 utc | 47
I’d venture it had an anti-radiation warhead fitted.

Posted by: Milites | May 25 2025 20:31 utc | 95

“The Biden administration was merely the pendulum swinging to the insane far left”

LOL
Joe Caligula Biden “far left” and
Donald Nero Trump “America First”
Haha
The political show business for the entertainment and confusion of the plebs is simply perfect and Bill Maher is its prophet.

Posted by: Simon | May 25 2025 20:37 utc | 96

Posted by: Jason | May 25 2025 20:26 utc | 93
Oh, fur fox ache, why do people keep bringing up the topic of Russia using nukes?
Think about this: Russia has made strenuous efforts to avoid extraneous civilian casualties during the SMO, the “collateral damage” so beloved by US military planners and commanders; why in the world would Russia start flinging nukes about?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 25 2025 20:38 utc | 97


Pepsi-Cola “Far Left”
Coca-Cola “Far Right”
The American political system is simply perfect.
I believe the political show industry would be able to create two brand images for two identical bottles of water
and the common people would never think of ordering wine or beer
Although the side effect is a society fractured into two opposing cultural identities.

Posted by: Simon | May 25 2025 20:48 utc | 98

@ snake, §7:
You´re right, Snake.
´Kneeler´ Starmer in England seems, like Josef Goebbels, to have taken the lessons of Edward Bernays to heart.
Propaganda, radio, TV stations and a tame press are all a lot cheaper than tanks, planes and ships – and can ultimately be more successful. This is being driven by the Big Gamblers of the City of London.

Posted by: John Marks | May 25 2025 20:48 utc | 99

Nooneuknow | May 25 2025 17:15 utc | 40
That is not true. First, Trump is a liar, what he says is not connected to what he does. It’s for his fans who are still getting tricked and others are paid to parrot. Putin will not meet Trump just to waste time, only after the reasons for a meeting will be clear, all prepared in advance. Putin did not meet Brazilian president when he landed without a planned meeting a few days ago sent by Nato to force a ceasefire, they only had a little phone call.
Usually presidents are busy, it’s a job. president Camacho and others can’t understand that notion because they’re not doing anything all day, they’re puppets, scammers or too old to know where they are

Posted by: rk | May 25 2025 20:48 utc | 100