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May 22, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-111

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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reply to 92
“I was surprised that bridges still exist across the river. What was Ukraine thinking?”
Posted by: Eighthman | May 23 2025 11:53 utc | 99
Its beyond me unless it is radical Fascist thinking that they will need those bridges to take back Crimea?

Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 12:19 utc | 101

Posted by: The Busker | May 23 2025 8:43 utc | 82
Thank you Sir. As usual a very informative read. I have not had time to digest it all , but just your early paragraph-
“There are signs that some European leaders are deciding to speak out at last, aware, perhaps, that their stairway to heaven could be blocked by their complicity in genocide. “ whets my appetite. The maps look very informative as well.
Regards-

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 23 2025 12:27 utc | 102

JamesBond | May 23 2025 11:28 utc | 96
“It seems that the Russians have a tendency sometimes to go full retards as well. There is no way that they can create any buffer zones in all of those regions that they mentioned including Odessa. Also, that USSR thing is also stupid, counterproductive and shortsighted.
Guys, the world needs realism not the same clown fest as Ukraine and West is at the moment.”

There would be nothing clownish about saying such things if the Russian leadership was rational and resolved, that Russia cannot succeed in this war short of imposing its will by force on the ground through the complete subjugation and dissolution of the Borderland.
But given the fact that they just can’t liberate their minds from the whole fake “negotiation” humbug, and the likely implication that Putin wants to find a pretext to do a Minsk III, such talk does sound more like bluster than anything else. It’ll soon be three years that Russia hasn’t even seen fit to make the effort to liberate its own soil in the Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhe. At this rate they’ll never attain even the most minimal sub-success goals, let alone add new ones.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 23 2025 12:29 utc | 103

Konami | May 23 2025 11:38 utc | 97
The trouble is that the Johnsons and Sunaks are even worse! I didn’t think it possible, but they were.
Elsewhere it’s fun watching the Guardian catch up with what you could find on Telegram a day or two before:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/23/ukraine-should-focus-on-hi-tech-war-of-survival-rather-than-recapturing-territory-says-ex-commander
Ukraine’s ambassador to the UK has said Kyiv should focus on fighting a “hi-tech war of survival” that minimises the loss of its military personnel and not expect to recapture Russian-occupied territory, including Crimea and in the Donbas. The comments by Valerii Zaluzhnyi, the former head of Ukraine’s armed forces, comes during an apparently widespread effort from Ukrainian officials to reset public expectations over the progress of a war that has ground on for more than three years amid fears there is no end in sight to the fighting. Zaluzhnyi’s comments, made at a forum in Kyiv on Thursday that he addressed by video, mark a change in emphasis from earlier in the conflict when Ukrainian leaders were insistent that the country needed to liberate all Russian-occupied land including Crimea. “I hope that there are not people in this room who still hope for some kind of miracle or lucky sign that will bring peace to Ukraine, the borders of 1991 or 2022 and that there will be great happiness afterward,” the RBK Ukraine news site and other media quoted Zaluzhnyi telling the forum. “We can speak only about a hi-tech war of survival, using a minimum of economic means to achieve maximum benefit,” he was quoted as saying. “Ukraine is not capable of another war in terms of demography and economy, and we shouldn’t even entertain the thought.”

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 23 2025 12:30 utc | 104

Posted by: jared | May 23 2025 12:09 utc | 100
I have certainly seen a change from crypto anarchist leanings in the beginning to the far right US leaning side of politics.

Posted by: Ninhvoi | May 23 2025 12:34 utc | 105

There are other ways to wage wars than the “Kill all that moves, flatten all that don’t”.
That’s what the US did when they waged wars in countries far far far away (Iraq, Viet-Nam, Europe, Japan…), but when you have do live with a humiliated neighbor for centuries to come, it might be better not bombing them to stone-age unless you’re planning a genocide.
“La guerre en dentelle c’est plus dur, mais ça peut aider à retrouver un modus vivendi le jours d’après.”

Posted by: Savonarole | May 23 2025 12:42 utc | 106

reply to 104
Yeah, I saw that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgc9ZtWe_Wo
Maybe this is the turning point. Ukraine needs someone with enough gravitas and respect to speak the truth and end the war. I think he mentioned Mannerheim a long time ago, as that would be the model for compromise in a hopeless situation.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 23 2025 12:45 utc | 107

@103,
It’s not possible to completely subjugate the entire “Borderland” country because they are brainwashed & demented people to the point that any Russian occupation even for a small amount of time would be bloody & very costly. Not to mention the amount of resource it would take to actually run everything there. The number of terrorist attacks would skyrocket in both Ukraine & Russian lands.
Which is why I don’t understand the point of even bothering with Union State like one idiot Russian senator is suggesting. Ukraine is long gone for Russia and reconciliation would take decades no matter the outcome now at these negotiations.
Best option right now is to actually get Ukraine to f** off from the remaining territory (one way or another) that Russia wants based on its constitution and make the country neutral (an actual buffer state instead of wasting time with 10-15km buffer as they want which frankly is basically useless with each passing days considering the drone warfare).

Posted by: JamesBond | May 23 2025 12:47 utc | 108

“Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 23rd May 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-76d
Posted by: The Busker | May 23 2025 8:43 utc | 82
An excerpt, “There are signs that some European leaders are deciding to speak out at last, aware, perhaps, that their stairway to heaven could be blocked by their complicity in genocide. ”
I don’t think so they are bloody Ghouls they don’t care about their complicity.
What they do care about is to ‘stick it to Trump” By ‘speaking out against Genocide” they are trying to neutralize Trump.
That’s my 2 cents.

Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 12:52 utc | 109

@ Posted by: Ninhvoi | May 23 2025 12:34 utc | 105
I think that ultimately the internet will be the tool/medium that enslaves us.
But why do you associate this with the “far”, “right”?

Posted by: jared | May 23 2025 13:03 utc | 110

JamesBond | May 23 2025 12:47 utc | 108
“It’s not possible to completely subjugate the entire “Borderland” country because they are brainwashed & demented people to the point that any Russian occupation even for a small amount of time would be bloody & very costly…
Best option right now is to actually get Ukraine to f** off from the remaining territory (one way or another) that Russia wants based on its constitution and make the country neutral.”

I think this comment contradicts itself because if the kokhols are this indelibly demented then there’s no way Russia can live next door to them after “making them neutral”, whatever you mean by that.
I agree that the Ukrainians are indelibly demented, and in fact “Ukrainians” really are just degenerate Russians. This is why I have said for over three years now that if Russia is to succeed in the war it has no alternative to the complete dissolution of the Borderland state (humanity now sees that the “Ukraine” state was a mistake in the first place, just like the Zionist state) into its component parts of Russia, Poland and Hungary. Newly liberated parts like Kiev, Kharkov and the littoral will then need to be rehabilitated (Russianized) with however vigorous a soapy scrubbing they need. All this is what Russia needs to do. (It has zero to do with “want”, no matter how much this site childishly obsesses on what Russia allegedly “wants” or doesn’t “want” to do.)
Anything short of this will be, at best, Minsk III and they’ll do it all again as soon as the proxy/ringer is ready.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 23 2025 13:35 utc | 111

Posted by: Eighthman | May 23 2025 12:45 utc | 107
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 23 2025 12:30 utc | 104
RE: Zaluzhny joined a Kiev forum via video-link
<< Examine the youTube clip @Eightman pasted into his comment. It is a nearly 4 minute compilation of old footage of Zaluzhny *in action mode* from periods when he was still the head general of the AFU. Occasionally the footage shows him wearing fatigues and seated around a conference table w/ other military members. Sometimes we see him in fatigues, leaning over a map and pointing things out to others in the room. These jump-cuts get interspliced w/ a host of 'Kiev Conference Room' stage sets, where Zelensky heads a table full of his closest advisors and they seem to be in deep deliberation. The montage unspools---and then a voiceover reads what Zaluzhny said we he joined the Kiev forum (in the Kiev Conference Room) via vid-link. As the voiceover reads what Zaluzhny said, we see a slide with the words attributed to Zaluzhny and then a small thumbnail photo of Zaluzhny in his battlefield fatigues. My point is this: we don't *see* Zaluzhny in the here & now---and we don't *hear* his voice. My firther point is that Zaluzhny suffered a traumatic brain injury in April 2023, around the same time that Budanov did. This was right before Bakhmut fell. Zaluzhny's injury was serious enough that he was treated in a hospital in Germany. Budanov recovered, and we began to see contemporaneous footage of him *in action*---speaking, interacting, etc. Zaluzhny *recovered*, at least that is what we were led to believe. But we never again saw more than very brief vid-snippets when he was *still* the head general of battlefield doings, sometimes a glance at him seated around a conference table, sometimes a glimpse of him very briefly in some other format: always compilations & montages. A moon-faced guy already, he always had a goofy smile in these post-traumatic brain injury video snippets and conveyed a sort of shucking & jiving aspect about him. As Avdiivka was popping off in mid-December 2023, and the Russians were really making gains, Zaluzhny, who was still the head general, gave a telephone interview to the WaPo in which he spoke of the "stalemate" in the war. Those remarks, buttressed & boosted by Antony B and Lloyd the 3rd, formed the basis of the Narrative that the LOC should be frozen in place because the war was in a "stalemate." We, of course, knew the LOC was quite dynamic, and we could feel daily practically the breakthrough Russia was achieving in Avdiivka. What I realized when Zaluzhny gave a *telephone* interview to the WaPo is that we really had not seen any lengthy footage of him since he had supposedly recovered from his traumatic brain injury. When I saw how hard the WaPo and other Regime Media sycophants pushed Zaluzhny's orthodoxy in his *telephone interview*---the "stalemate"---I began to realize that the media & U.S. leaders were propping Zaluzhny up as they were propping *Joe* up: Zaluzhny was non compos mentis too, on account of his brain injury, but it did not matter because The Messengers, those who wanted to get *the message* out, could use Zaluzhny as a ventriloquist's dummy, to seem to utter the messages that they were promulgating. He gave *telephone* interviews. Just as Avdiivka fell, Zaluzhny was reassigned to be Ukraine's ambassador to London. After that, everything got quiet, Zaluzhny-wise. The war focus concentrated on Syrski. Occasionally we might get some tiny bit of news about Zaluzhny, but usually not---and it was not even clear where he was for a while. Bottomline: Zaluzhny never fully recovered from his traumatic brain injury, yet nonetheless he is being held in reserve as some sort of font of wisdom about the war or some sort of counterweight to Kiev politics---potentially even the next president. The strategy is this: it was possible to present non compos mentis Joe as an in-charge/in-command leader; therefore it will be possible to do the very same thing w/ Zaluzhny: limit the public appearances, let the cameras catch snippets & glimpses---and obfuscate, obfuscate, obfuscate. Zaluzhny will receive the Joe Treatment. Notice Zaluzhny stirs headlines today based on an alleged video-link conference w/ a Kiev forum based on the words he allegedly uttered.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 13:37 utc | 112

JamesBond @108: “It’s not possible to completely subjugate the entire “Borderland” country because they are brainwashed & demented…”
Individual fascist might be ruined for life, but fascist brainwashing can be undone, at least on whole populations. Think of WWII Germany, Italy and Japan. Think of Chechnya. In fact, the fascists are always a minority of the population, and a feared and hated minority at that, so when they are defeated the rest of the population tends view the forces that destroyed the fascists as saviors.
There were some Chechen militants who escaped / were rescued by the CIA, and they are some of the most deprave terrorist scum on the planet; right up there with ISIS headchoppers and Latin American death squads. The Chechens who remained in Chechnya, on the other hand, are almost fanatically loyal to Russia. You can expect the same dynamic in the Ukraine when the Nazis are finally exterminated and Nazi propaganda machinery silenced and expunged. My bet is that most of the remaining population in the former Ukraine will choose to restructure the part where they live into Novorossiya or something similar and confederate with the Russian Federation, and even the remaining rump of the Ukraine in the west will very strongly consider joining the federation.
Anyway, when people lose their fear of fascists, then fascists often end up hanging by the neck from lampposts. Russia won’t have to complete the clean-up of the former Ukraine as the people living there will take over the task at some point.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 23 2025 13:41 utc | 113

reply to 112
You raise some serious points. However, managing his public appearance like Biden can work towards ending the war, if they’re careful enough about it. Just having him say (reputedly) that ‘hope is not a strategy’ or similar remarks could be very valuable now – in contrast to Zelensky being useless.
All too often, life is about the choices presented, not about the best alternatives. If they can focus on his supposed message, that could be a big improvement. Ukraine needs maybe 20 years of peace to make babies and fix all the wreckage.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 23 2025 14:07 utc | 114

Posted by: William Gruff | May 23 2025 13:41 utc | 113
Sublime post, thank you.

Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 14:13 utc | 115

Individual fascist might be ruined for life, but fascist brainwashing can be undone, at least on whole populations. Think of WWII Germany, Italy and Japan. Think of Chechnya. […]
Posted by: William Gruff | May 23 2025 13:41 utc | 113
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I think you should reconsider citing Germany and Japan (and Italy too, if Italy really matters) as success stories in the fight against fascism. With Chechnya you have a much better argument.

Posted by: malenkov | May 23 2025 14:38 utc | 116

in fact “Ukrainians” really are just degenerate Russians
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 23 2025 13:35 utc | 111
not really the cossack component , after a collapse near 1700 will be critical to inject a certain dynamic in a century.
the native original kiev (not viking) is currently in collapse.
the viking in a turmoil of regal abuse before revolution.
it’s complicated…

Posted by: Newbie | May 23 2025 14:40 utc | 117

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 13:37 utc | 112
So the XXIst century , at least part , remembered as the auto-pen emperors stage

Posted by: Newbie | May 23 2025 14:43 utc | 118

With their king’s LEW 1 and LEW 2
Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 23 2025 6:57 utc | 74
My post was a short discussion about a comment that Galicia and Ruthenia should go back to the Austrians. Obviously, as you are aware there is more nuance to it than that.
The point I was trying to make is there is a cultural and linguistic difference between Rusyns and the people of historical Galicia and Volynia. Applying the exonyms Transcarpathia and Ruthenians to all this can easily serve to just confuse.
The point I was trying to make is that the West supported politics of Galicia and Volynia, installed in Kiev also by the west, has only served to repress the language and culture of the Rusyns, who have nothing historically been within Galicia and Volynia. So if the Rusyns had their choice free of influence, my guess is they would wish to join Hungary.
So basically, as I see it, Galicia and Volynia has been involved in a colonial enterprise, especially in Novorossiya. This, and the potential for a civil war, is the only value to the west this area serves.
So I say give the Banderists if Galicia and Volynia their historical land and independence, with constitutional neutrality and no NATO. This territory had historical value as a trade route stop and not much else anyway. The RF walks away entirely and lets Galicia and Volynia and Europe choke on that for a while. Novorossiya and Galicia and Volynia should never have been put in the same polity anyway – it employs the same 19th century disastrous British thinking that put multiple ethnicities within the same borders in the middle east, e.g. Syria, etc.

Posted by: frithguild | May 23 2025 14:46 utc | 119

Posted by: Eighthman | May 23 2025 14:07 utc | 114
RE: non compos mentis Zaluzhny *may* be a better ‘messenger’ than Zelensky
<< A sham that has been a sham from top-to-bottom may in fact conclude the only way it can, as a sham. Note, though, as the unverifiable ventriloquist's dummy, Zaluzhny can utter whatever the Coalition of the Sniffers *want* him to say. Recall that they used him as a big megaphone in December 2023 to proclaim the war a "stalemate." How many times since then have Regime Media and figures from the West repeated that mantra-? European political leaders have literally said it *this week* If the Coalition of the Sniffers search for ways to put pressure on Zelensky, then Zaluzhny, in the guise of the ventrilioquist's dummy, can utter the fortune-cookie platitude: "Hope is not a strategy." He is like one of those automaton fortune tellers in a carnival's arcade: put in a quarter to hear, "You'll return somewhere you've been," which is a meaningless prediction because unless you're fleeing your country you'll *always* return somewhere you've been. Yet another meaningless platitude explains that phenomenon: "Home is where the heart is." A member of the Ukrainian team in Istanbul lamented to Medinsky that "you have only *one* boss to please. We have *three*" Such is the plight of a proxy in-stirrup to a coalition. (And if 2/3rds of the coalition includes sniffers, matters are all the worse.)

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 15:23 utc | 120

https://www.flightradar24.com/3a76eccf
USAF P8 from Sigonella off Romania

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 23 2025 15:29 utc | 121

and the likely implication that Putin wants to find a pretext to do a Minsk III,
At this rate they’ll never attain even the most minimal sub-success goals, let alone add new ones.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 23 2025 12:29 utc | 103

Two ridiculous assumptions.
First, it’s only the West that’s dying for a Minsk III. Putin’s repeatedly & emphatically stated they will never repeat that mistake and that any security arrangment must be with NATO overall and not just Ukraine.
Second, you’re repeating the fallacy of linear progression. You can’t measure this war in land, only in bodies and equipment, and on that count the RF already has conquered 90% of Ukraine. Furthermore, these conflicts always end in exponential progress. As I’ve pointed out numerous times before Germany still occupied most of Europe just months before Allied tanks rolled into Berlin.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 23 2025 15:41 utc | 122

Gaelach – thanks for your reply. On the subject of Irish unification in general, it’s the practicalities that matter. It’s always the practicalities that matter!
Looking at the practicalities one fact sticks out. The Protestant minorities in the new Republic were treated better than the Catholics in the North. Still are. Am thinking particularly of County Monaghan. They still hold Orange Marches there! Also in County Donegal. No attempt by Dublin to stop them as far as I know. The Ascendancy remnants are also not discriminated against and haven’t been since De Valera’s time.
Contrast that with the North, where there was active and oppressive discrimination against Catholics. Still is even today, fortunately not so blatant. One hears of difficulties when it comes to planning and other matters. I noticed even not long back that a grant was made to finance Orange Lodges whilst a grant supporting the teaching of Irish in the Province was denied.
That contrast, the contrast today and the contrast going back decades, tells its own story. There’d be no need to fear discrimination against my fellow Brits should they ever find themselves in a United Ireland.
The practicalities go the other way too, I’m afraid. Figures are difficult to ascertain but the North needs a subsidy in excess of ten billion. Well in excess, I’d guess, because the figures for Security and Intel work can’t be published. Dublin could not cover that level of subsidy and the only suggestion the Oireachtas came up with was that the UK should continue paying it even after unification. The EU promised some grants way back but mostly cosmetic.
Then there’s security. The North is still on the boil. Those peace walls haven’t come down yet. The 50 or so enclaves on the border are still difficult to administer and last I heard were still used for drug smuggling by criminal gangs based anywhere from Dublin to Dubai. Bomb workshops are raided and the raids obstructed by crowds blocking the Police. I doubt the Irish military and Intelligence Services could keep the lid on things. Not even entirely sure we can.
I was chatting to an old style dyed-in-the-wool Nationalist a few years back. We’d left a party to go outside for a cigarette. We weren’t talking about politics. I knew he was ex-Provo and I expect he knew I knew, but some things are best left up in the air.
Suddenly he laughed. To himself as much as to anybody. Put down his beer and said, entirely out of the blue, “You Brits are trying to palm the North off onto us. But we don’t want it.”
Of course he did want it. But he knew the depth of sectarian animosity up there and knew what difficulties those animosities give rise to. He knew it’d be a long time before those practicalities get sorted out.
……………………
The situation in Ireland complicated by the Brexit fuss. Brexit, as Tusk later remarked bitterly, was a horrible accident for the UK and Brussels politicians. It resulted from a referendum that was only called to put the “Eurosceptic” issue to bed. Instead it served to awaken it with a vengeance. Membership of the EU shot from way down in the list of the electorate’s concerns to right up at the top. Look at that referendum as no more than a chancer’s gamble by Cameron and a gamble that went wrong. They’re still working to put it right, or at least to minimise the consequences.
Of course Brexit was the wrong way to go about things. We should never have left the EU. That jumble of nonsense, that bureaucratic anti-democratic prison of nations that emerged from an innocent looking trading arrangement, can’t be handled just by leaving it. That was quite the wrong thing to do. We should have stayed in and demolished it from the inside. But all is not lost! With any luck the Germans’ll wake up to what they’ve got themselves into and demolish it for us.
To return to tiocadh ar lar. Cameron’s failed gamble had consequences in Northern Ireland. Brussels stirred up the old sectarian split in order to complicate UK exit from the EU. Ably assisted by Varadkar with Mrs May doing nothing whatsoever to tell Brussels to go pound sand. It suited the Conservative administration itself that UK exit should be made difficult. Apart from a few oddballs they didn’t want Brexit any more than Brussels did. Nor did Starmer, as his resolute efforts in the House showed at the time and as his current chipping away even at the deal Johnson got show just as clearly now.
But then, at that time both Brussels and Westminster were brewing up the attack on Russia. What do you think Russiagate was all about? The Trump movement was not only a direct challenge to the European political classes, as it still is. It was feared Trump would get in the way of that attack on Russia. Hence the never-ending attacks on Trump by the Europeans, here and on the Continent from 2015 on. People focus far too much on the personality of Trump himself. It was the “populist” electoral support behind him that was a direct threat to the European status quo.
You’ll note that “populist” is still a term of abuse and the politicians of Berlin/Brussels are doing what they can to knock back any manifestation of that “populism” over here in Europe. Democracy’s fine, is the message from the European political classes, but only if it wants what we’re going to give it anyway. You’ll also note that that same “populism” was also an impediment to what Mercouris calls “The Ukrainian project.” It was no accident that it was only after Trump was out of the way, for good it looked at the time, that that attack on Russia could proceed.
The recent attempts by Westminster and the Europeans to prolong that failed project show what they have always had as their aim. War against Russia. And the proxy war, together with the considerably more formidable sanctions war, was always the means. Neither Westminster nor Brussels wanted a little local difficulty like Brexit to get in the way of that. This is what the European politicians were working on,whilst their electorates, me included I’m afraid, were taking that little local difficulty called Brexit so seriously:-
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/the-munich-security-conference
” an old adversary is back in the game…” It was that old adversary that was their true target, then as now.
……………….
All different now anyway, in the Island of Ireland. The dreams of Michael Collins were set in a very different context. Protestants and Catholics in the North sometimes now unite in protest marches. The protests up and down Ireland itself are nothing to do with old quarrels and resentments. And the Irish have a different master now.
De Valera’s Ireland, economically dysfunctional and chasing obsolete visions of village maidens dancing at the crossroads but still a noble concept for very many and defiantly independent, has given way to a Brussels satrapy no more independent than it was under the British. They have better politicians than we do, more savvy and considerably more sophisticated than ours, but what are they doing to Ireland? Wrecking it and that handsomely. How can a united Ireland mean anything, when there’s so little left of the old Ireland that wanted it?

Posted by: English Outsider | May 23 2025 15:45 utc | 123

It’s not possible to completely subjugate the entire “Borderland” country because they are brainwashed & demented people to the point that any Russian occupation even for a small amount of time would be bloody & very costly.
Posted by: JamesBond | May 23 2025 12:47 utc | 108

History shows that statement is entirely incorrect. Virtually every land on earth has been conquered many times over and yet that’s not been an issue.
Plus you’re projecting the mindset of a relative minority of ultra-nationalists on the general population. I’d argue that the Ukrainian people are more likely to terrorize the ultra-nationalists — once they no longer have government protection — more than the Russians. It’s not the Russians that kidnapped their husbands, fathers & children to fight a war none of them wanted.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 23 2025 15:47 utc | 124

Whatever his physical state nowadays, raising the profile of Zaluzhny’s name in these times risks further fuelling the ire of the discontented frontline commanders in the Ukrainian army, at least those who have survived long enough to remember that Zaluzhny frequently clashed with the Zelensky/Ermak axis, over the former’s belief that the forces under his command should be withdrawn, in an orderly manner, into strongly-reinforced defensible positions, rather than rushing gung-ho to meet the Russians where the Russians were.
Compared with the idiot Syrsky, who has followed the orders from the Office of the President to continue hurling conscripts into the meat-grinder, Zaluzhny at least tried to show some interest in protecting his forces from useless waste.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 23 2025 16:11 utc | 125

Posted by: Newbie | May 23 2025 14:43 utc | 118
RE: the Autopen Empire of the 21st Century
<< After Zelensky got zelenskied in the Oval, he fled back to London, into the waiting arms of Sir Keir. The next day was the first Coalition of the Sniffing summit, a stern & solemn show-of-force after DJT and JD booted Zelensky out of the White House. Zaluzhny *attended* this meeting. Or at least we saw video footage of Zaluzhny arriving in a black sedan, an attendant opening the door to the backseat, so he could pop out and walk into the assembly hall. He wore dark civilian attire. Another video snippet showed Zaluzhny climbing a flight of stairs inside the hall, smiling broadly, bobbing his head, still giving off those *shucking * jiving* vibes. One might say, seeing him, "Here's quite a simple fellow." Prior to his, back on 11 September, Antony B took the long train ride to Kiev in order to discuss long-range ATACM strikes into Russia, and Zaluzhny accompanied Antony B on the train. Once more, we were shown the video snippets and montage of Antony B disembarking from the train in the Kiev station. A grouping of other officials emerged onto the platform from the train behind Antony B, and it was pointed out in a voiceover that Zaluzhny was among them. Walking on the periphery of the group, he wore civilian attire and was grinning, bobbing his head, shucking & jiving. *He* posted something on social media soon after. As w/ non compos mentis Joe it is impressive how parsimoniously these public appearances are parceled out---the quick unrevealing snippets---and how carefully managed they are. Once you notice the conscious effort in showing very little, you catch on, in a pattern recognition way, how cinematically possible it is to present the ventriloquist's dummy as capable. It's almost like watching a horror movie where the viewer doesn't get to see very much about The Creature---only tantalizing hard-to-discern, even grainy, clips.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 16:16 utc | 126

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 23 2025 16:11 utc | 125
RE: raising the ire of the front-line commanders
<< For all we know *they* are aware of Zaluzhny's state of health.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 16:19 utc | 127

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 16:19 utc | 127
Oh yes, they could well be aware of his state now. What I was rather clumsily driving at is that bringing his name up would serve to remind the troops of what his command was like (which wasn’t great, but at least wasn’t as bloodthirsty as the clown now in charge).
I seem to remember he clashed with the politicians over Bakhmut; the politicians wanting to hold it at all costs while he could see the bloody futility of this.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 23 2025 16:27 utc | 128

*** Plus you’re projecting the mindset of a relative minority of ultra-nationalists on the general population. I’d argue that the Ukrainian people are more likely to terrorize the ultra-nationalists — once they no longer have government protection — more than the Russians. It’s not the Russians that kidnapped their husbands, fathers & children to fight a war none of them wanted.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 23 2025 15:47 utc | 124
Eliminate the Galicia Volynia incentive for colonial empire by carving out land that borders their historical ethnicity, make it a country that is demilitarized, neutral (e.g. SUI and Austria), incapable of joining NATO and bound by an Irrevocable treaty level Hungarian style anti USAID Public Transparency Law. Time will take care of the rest. Let them make any language or religion mandatory or even be an east Europe DRNK all day long – no one will care.
Much like Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, there will be nothing of value within them that would make them a target for invasion.

Posted by: frithguild | May 23 2025 16:32 utc | 129

#106 Savonarole
“la guerre en dentelles”…
Nice expression coined by some effiminated militaries living in luxury… who were blind to the barbaric atrocities of battle fields. The Seven years war generated a plenty.
“S’ils vous plaît… À vous de tirer les premiers” (Please… shoot first). In German, French or English it sounds the same. The very poetic notion of a lover then pressed to her partner (‘lace work’… dentelles) reflects some brutal desires of ‘con-quest’ rather than anything else. Some see flowers blossoming on the line of combat (LOC). Beautiful ‘bouquets’ of smelly offerings for the occasion, not withstanding any eventually fatal… hallucigenic mushroom.
It did indeed produce a next generation refractory to more wars but it didn’t last very long.
Whichever flavours exhibited by the well publicised house of perfume will trade according to their agressive ‘marketing’. Modération… could then be defined as ‘attrition with moderation’. A definite lack of lingeries to linger on for a generation to come

Posted by: kpax | May 23 2025 16:52 utc | 130

I used to read Indian Punchline but some of the latest takes are…bizarre to say the least. As one example the following excerpt:

To be sure, President Volodymyr Zelensky has emerged as a statesman of reckoning, having consolidated his standing in the powerful nationalist camp that may set at rest any speculations of a regime change in Kiev.

Erm, what?
Is Indian hashish that much better than what we get over here? I’m blown away by the overall quality of analysis having fallen so far from previously. The site is no longer on my reading list, sadly, as I cannot square the circle.
Still good insight on India Pakistan stuff though.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 23 2025 16:56 utc | 131

‘– GEROMAN — time will tell – 👀 —
@GeromanAT
2h
Stupidity on steroids within Bandera Nazi ranks:
🇺🇦 “If Russian-speaking Ukrainians don’t switch to Ukrainian, then Russia will come and force them to speak Russian.”
– Ukrainian Human Rights Commissioner Lubinets
May 23, 2025 · 2:48 PM UTC’
This is all about shapeshifters wanting to create future generations to fight and to ale Russia again.
They are used to failing and losing.
But they are therefore used to making sure a fertile ground is laid for future generations to die to the last one to attempt again.
This only ends if tgise dynasties are ended for ever.

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 23 2025 17:24 utc | 132

After Zelensky got zelenskied in the Oval, he fled back to London, into the waiting arms of Sir Keir.
The next day was the first Coalition of the Sniffing summit, a stern & solemn show-of-force after DJT and JD booted Zelensky out of the White House.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 16:16 utc | 126
Zelensky entered the room and saw an old man, asked Keir who that was
Keir reminded Zelensky asked explicitly “don’t forget Michael Cain”
Z… “My cocaine, you stammering idiot!”

Posted by: Newbie | May 23 2025 17:48 utc | 133

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 23 2025 16:56 utc | 131
Jumped the shark last time I checked when he started writing articles about why Trump is such a great peace maker.
I see he is continuing in the same vein still.

Posted by: Ninh | May 23 2025 17:50 utc | 134

It’s not the Russians that kidnapped their husbands, fathers & children to fight a war none of them wanted.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 23 2025 15:47 utc | 124
So it means Nato can never allow the power to escape from the hands of their puppets and that is not hard to do since Russian government protects Kyyiivv and their businesses more than Moscow. The more Ukr are collected on the streets and sent to die, the cheaper the costs for Nato will be, the less people Nato has to control inside Ukr. They really only need small but many terrorist groups, not a 2m men army. That’s the reason why the Macaron and others want to send soldiers in Ukr as soon as possible, they need to control the zombies before they turn against them. The new “international tribunal” for Russia is also part of the same plan.
Now Putin has finally decided he needs a buffer zone, after he kept talking about it for at least two years. Funny thing that for a long time the idea of a buffer zone to protect from terrorism would get you called “concern troll” instantly by all the talking heads of youtube.

Posted by: rk | May 23 2025 17:58 utc | 135

So it means Nato can never allow…
Posted by: rk | May 23 2025 17:58 utc | 135

Unfortunately for NATO they have no say in the matter, and once that becomes obvious to everyone NATO will cease to exist.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 23 2025 18:07 utc | 136

Kind of adjacent to the earlier issue of the legality of the dissolution of the USSR, what is the current status of the CIS? Is it still an active organisation in any way? Or has it been more or less overtaken by new agreements and alliances, such as BRICS, the SCO, the Eurasian economic alliance etc?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 23 2025 18:38 utc | 137

@ JamesBond, Flying Dutchman
Never go full rk.

Posted by: boneless | May 23 2025 18:46 utc | 138

Prisoner exchange has begun including 120 civilians from Kursk region plus 270 soldiers. Two more rounds likely coming.

Posted by: the pessimist | May 23 2025 18:53 utc | 139

Iskander-M OTRK launched two missile strikes on the port of Odessa
This afternoon, Iskander-M OTRK delivered a high-precision strike with two ballistic missiles on the infrastructure of the Odessa Commercial Seaport in the coastal zone of the city in the area of 2-3 berths. This is reported by the telegram channel “Donbass partisan”.
“According to available data, at the time of the strike, work was carried out in the port on unloading and servicing vessels used for covert logistics and supply of naval units, as well as coastal formations of the National Guard of Ukraine. The territory of the facility was closed to civilian shipping and guarded by military units,” the TC writes.
It is noted that as a result of the first missile strike, the operational headquarters of cargo traffic management was damaged and a warehouse was destroyed, in which, according to intelligence reports, special marine equipment was stored, including remote control kits and onboard units for unmanned boats.
The second budar fell on the parking lot of auxiliary vessels with the status of a military reserve of the Navy.
At least 24 servicemen who were in the service area of the equipment were killed and wounded, the support vessels “Crimea” and “Titan”, used as floating bases and radio-technical platforms, were damaged. The vessels will probably be sent to the repair zone, writes TK.
“The strike on the berthing facilities and service structures disrupted the next stage of the logistics overload intended for the formation of naval strike groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The work of shipping control points has been disrupted, which may lead to a long—term disorganization of port logistics and supply,” the Donbass Partisan summarizes.

https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/05/23/iskander-m-otrk-launched-two-missile-strikes-on-the-port-of-odessa
There were one or two sketchy, outline reports in other outlets, this is the most detail I’ve seen so far.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 23 2025 18:59 utc | 140

@ the pessimist | May 23 2025 18:53 utc | 139

Prisoner exchange has begun including 120 civilians from Kursk region plus 270 soldiers. Two more rounds likely coming.

Allegedly, the banderite side’ exchange breakdown is:
-270 soldiers
-50 civilians kidnapped from Kursk
-70 “political” prisoners
AFU is running out of Russian soldiers to exchange. They must be keeping at least a few hundred around for a rainy day still. More circumstantial evidence to how badly fucked AFU is.

Posted by: boneless | May 23 2025 19:16 utc | 141

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 23 2025 16:27 utc | 128
RE: Zaluzhny clashed w/ *management* during Bakhmut
<< and Syrski got dubbed the Butcher of Bakhmut

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 19:35 utc | 142

Big breakthrough for the Russians to get to the outskirts of Kupyansk, only 1km from the railway tracks into Kupyansk and 2km from the junction of the east-west P07 main supply road with the north-south P79 just before the P07 crosses the Oskil. This threatens to completely cut off the Ukrainian forces on the eastern bank of the Oskil (between Kupyansk and Kolisnykivka) as well as taking Kupyansk.
The P79 is also the main supply route for the Ukrainians on the west bank of the Oskil so cutting that would very much weaken the Ukrainian defence south of Kupyansk on the west bank all the way to Kruhlyakivka which the Russians control on the east bank of the river.
With the collapse of the Ukrainian pocket east of the Oskil, the Russian forces would be able to concentrate on taking everything east of the Oskil between Nove and Lozove and onto Izyum and Lyman – taking back the land lost in late 2022 and closing the northern supply route to Slovyansk/Kramatosk (the southern supply route already being cut). The Vovchansk front also continues to wake up, threatening a drive to link up with the bridgehead north of Kupyansk.
Putin has stated that Russia will create a buffer zone all along the border with the Russian territories, and there are reports of the massing of Russian troops along the borders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpdwzBx67Ak

Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 23 2025 19:37 utc | 143

Given the bias of the Vatican in favour of the banderite Kiev regime, it wouldn’t be appropriate for negotiations to take place there.
Why the West and kiev keep insisting on THEIR choice of venue is simply game playing to try and embarrass Putin, knowing he won’t attend. Putin should, in response, arrange for talks in Beijing.
Lets see if the dictator Zelensky and the rest of the coke heads in the west agree to that, shall we?

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 23 2025 19:38 utc | 144

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 23 2025 16:56 utc | 131
RE: Indianpunchline.com
<< Ditto here, regarding something seeming *off* now about Bhadrakumar's analysis. A year ago I found his site a go-to resource. For the past three or four, he has not seemed himself. The edge is lacking. It's as if he is tepidly phoning-it-in.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 19:40 utc | 145

Posted by: Newbie | May 23 2025 17:48 utc | 133
RE: Michael Caine
<< Hilarious-!

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 19:42 utc | 146

@144
The Russian member could read St Augustine’s Just War doctrine then suggest the Augustinian Ppope to tell which are met with US’weapons gift.
Then read some of Gospels from StJohn, and the great commandment.
The Vatican should decline and go to Gaza

Posted by: paddy | May 23 2025 19:42 utc | 147

Posted by: Ninh | May 23 2025 17:50 utc | 134
RE: indianpunchline.com loses its punch
<< Bhadrakumar saw positive aspects of the tariffs... Wondering if something shifted for him once Collective Biden was no longer pulling the levers of power. Hard to imagine what could change his outlook... I've noticed the chatteratti have had a strong response toward Scott Ritter, additionally, w/ commenters in the thread questioning whether he went too full-bore into embracing DJT---sort of a reverse TDS. It's as if Bhadrakumar and Ritter have both been stricken similarly.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 19:47 utc | 148

“Putin should, in response, arrange for talks in Beijing.” Lets see if the dictator Zelensky and the rest of the coke heads in the west agree to that, shall we?
Posted by: HERMIUS @ 144
I AGREE ENTIRELY. ENUFF OF THIS BULLSHIT FROM THE WEST. AND IF THERES EVER “PEACEKEEPERS” SENT TO UKRAINE, THEN LETS HAVE CHINESE PEACEKEEPERS THERE.

Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | May 23 2025 19:47 utc | 149

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 23 2025 19:38 utc | 144
RE: Vatican not a good venue
<< Riyadh or Jeddah were better locations, because the trappings of the Euro-connected infrastructure were lacking. There's unlikely to be a Ukrainian Lobby, so to speak, in Saudi cities, but definitely inRome---adjacent to the Vatican---the Ukrainian Lobby is likely to be well represented. Seems inappropriate, too, to hold talks in a part of Europe that has a U.S./NATO military base. Gotta strive for greater neutrality.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 19:56 utc | 150

Putin should, in response, arrange for talks in Beijing

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 23 2025 19:38 utc | 144
Sir, you lack ambition…
Pyongyang is surely a much more suitable venue…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 23 2025 19:57 utc | 151

With the first tranche of “POW’s” (or are it abductees?) exchanged, the European Union’s values and virtues are at full display. The fruit and legacy of the intellectually shallow Kalas and Von der Leyen.
https://nitter.poast.org/Alex_Oloyede2/status/1925977686762983635
When losing the Kursk front, the AFU kidnapped civilians, mostly old women as human shields later using them for PoW exchange today.
These are the same people who falsely claim Russia stole Ukrainian children.

Posted by: xor | May 23 2025 19:59 utc | 152

Pyongyang is surely a much more suitable venue…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 23 2025 19:57 utc | 151
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 23 2025 19:59 utc | 153

Ukrainian losses for the week May 17th to May 23rd, as reported by the Russian defence ministry:
– Kursk & Kharkov fronts: 1,180 troops, 5 tanks, 14 LAV/HMV, 67 motor vehicles, 34 artillery pieces, 3 EW systems.
– Zapad Group (Luhansk area): 1,585 troops, 3 tanks, 2 APC, 11 LAV/HMV, 65 motor vehicles, 11 artillery pieces, 7 EW systems.
– Yug Group (Donetsk north): 1,665 troops, 2 tank, 3 APC, 21 LAV/HMV, 29 motor vehicles, 16 artillery pieces, 13 EW systems.
– Tsetr Group (Donetsk south): 2,875 troops, 1 tank, 42 LAV/ HMV, 39 motor vehicles, 11 artillery pieces.
– Vostok Group (southern front): 1,185 troops, 2 tanks, 21 LAV/HMV, 36 motor vehicles, 12 artillery piece, 5 EW systems.
– Dnepr Group: 415 troops, 1 tank, 5 LAV/HMV, 30 motor vehicles, 4 artillery pieces, 6 EW systems.
In total: 8,905 troops – slightly higher than the previous week (38,600 per month, with undercounting probably above 40,000).
14 tanks (5 in Kursk/Kharkov), 0 IFV, 5 APC, 114 HMV/Light Armoured Vehicle (14 in Kursk/Khakrov). An increase in the number of tanks lost and a handful of death-trap aged APCs. 266 motor vehicles.
Only 86 artillery pieces (34 in Kursk/Kharkov). Down to a rate of 373/mth, consistent with reports that the West has run out of artillery to send to Ukraine. The loss rate is about 1/3rd of the peak loss rate. Plus 45 EW and no Counter Battery systems.
The dwindling of artillery losses points to a rapid degradation of Ukrainian artillery capabilities, with losses increasingly not being replaced. The IFV loss rate points to a complete lack of IFVs and an ongoing reliance on light armoured vehicles and civilian vehicles, plus the odd handful of death-trap old APCs. Tank losses seem to ebb and flow with new batches supplied from the West.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | May 23 2025 20:38 utc | 154

Even in the annals of Russophobia, Friedrich “uses the small spoon” Mertz’s actions are insidious: boneless Mertz insists that China back the European peace plan for the end of hostilities in Ukraine, as laid out by the Coalition of the Sniffing, which is a barely disguised demand for Russia to capitulate to Ukraine.
Bamboozlement hailing from Mertz is so intense that he is legislatively booby-trapping *any possibility* in the future that a German chancellor could possibly receive energy products—oil & LNG—-from Russia.
The impetus to engage in such wrong-headed long-term acts is bizarre. Addiction to cocaine cannot begin to explain it. Commonsensical people wonder what is going on.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 23 2025 22:45 utc | 155

(Без темы)
To all the “too slow” whiners:
There is a Russian (1984, so it’s Soviet) comedy movie called “The Formulae of Love” set in mid XIX Century Russia, and there the famous Count Cagliostro while travelling in Russia get stuck in a small rural Russian town because his carriage suffered a minor break in one wheel.
This local young landowner wants to employ Caliostro’s reputed skills to enliven the statue he had fallen in love with, so he invites the Count’s small band of travellers to his homestead, promicing to repare the carriage.
And here’s the conversation of the landowner with his smith:
– How quickly can you repair it?
– In a day, Lord!
– And in two days?
– Well, well.. Will do in two…
– And what about five?
– Well, if you try hard, possible in five…
– And what about ten?
– Well, Lord, you are settin some tough tasks. One person cannot do it in ten days. I will need help.
– Take all the help you need but do it no sooner!
Do it no sooner!

Posted by: Rutte | May 24 2025 1:52 utc | 156

Messaging attributable to Zaluzhny, who some believe never completely recovered from a brain injury suffered in combat in April 2023, drives the news-cycle right now.
An above-the-fold RT article has him allegedly saying that that Kiev cannot retake lost regions. No surprise there w/ a comment like that—but the *weight* of his words as someone no longer in-country is supposed to *reverberate* with greater urgency than, say, if Yermak uttered it right now.
Zaluzhny has allegedly said that Kiev barely has the resources, primarily in troop strength, to fight for its own survival. These utterances supposedly occurred during a purported video-link connection from his ambassadorial post in London to a Kiev forum.
There is no footage of Zaluzhny speaking or audio either. The words he supposedly uttered during the forum are reprinted on PowerPoint-like slides, embedded in the midst of film montages of Zaluzhny, pre-injury, in his battlefield fatigues. To be clear: whenever we *see* video of Zaluzhny of any length, it is from before April 2023.
During this latest news-cycle, 700-word media articles get constructed around the scanty comments Zaluzhny allegedy delivered to the Kiev forum. “Hope is not a strategy” is one of the sentences he purportedly uttered, and that one figures into these well-constructed news articles.
A one-time Major Player in Project Ukraine, a voice from The Past now—and also a voice from afar.
It’s like Reagan playing George Gipp, a football player who was ill and could not suit up, exhorting his teammates to “win one for the Gipper.”
But w/ George Gipp, we knew he had pneumonia. His coach knew he had pneumonia. His boys knew he had pneumonia.
Without comment, Zaluzhny is being presented to us, by ‘those who mastermind these things,’ as someone of strong mind & body.
Or at the very least the *truth* of Zaluzhny’s health status is being withheld, as a lie of omission: that he never recovered from his brain injury. That he can’t suit up.
Having experienced 4 years of a non compos mentis American president, however, whom we were encouraged to believe was “sharp as a tack,” though our perceptions revealed everything to the contrary, we find it easy to believe that ‘those who mastermind these things on behalf of Project Ukraine’ would rerun the Joe Playbook, presenting a cognitively deficient figure as competent, retooled & refitted for Zaluzhny.
If so, it is especially weird to observe how much cognitive incompetence Project Ukraine attracts, as if magnetically drawn.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 24 2025 2:07 utc | 157

Inventing Ukraine (doc)
https://en.rtdoc.tv/films/1221-inventing-ukraine
“How did Poland establish an entire anti-Russian state? Who devised the language of the new nation? How was the ‘Ukraine project’ utilized by Nazi Germany? How did the Ukrainian nationalist units formed during WWII become a stooge for the CIA? How did the CIA operation ‘Prologue’ influence Ukrainian independence? This documentary investigation will delve into the stages of the country’s formation and illustrate the consequences of this Ukrainian ideology today.”
Cults:The CIA’s Secret Weapon (doc)
https://en.rtdoc.tv/films/775-cults-the-cias-secret-weapon
“In January 2023 a symbol of the Ukrainian nationalist cult ‘RUNVira’ appeared near a major Orthodox shrine in Kiev, the Pechersk Lavra. Lev Silenko (1921-2008), a Ukrainian emigrant from the United States is known as the founder of this religion. However, very few know that, before becoming the ultimate prophet of Ukrainian neo-paganism, Silenko had attended Hitler’s propaganda courses at a Polish camp.
Today ‘RUNVira’ still promotes the ideas of Ukrainian exceptionalism and harbors hatred towards Russians and Jews. How did Ukraine become a center for neo-Nazi cults, and who is responsible for this?”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 24 2025 3:04 utc | 158

I’m not a MAGA, but to all the TDS and “moderate objectivisers” out there, like Brian Berletic, who keep saying that Trump is no different to Joe, that he’s all hot air, that it’s just the same — NO it isn’t.
Now, DJT will always promise far more than he can deliver, and celebrate far more than he has achieved. But ffs people, he’s decimated USAID, countered the whole DEI trip, just today sacked 250/300 of the NSC deep state, insulted Zelensky every second day, listened to Putin, made friends with Putin, encouraged new development with Russia, held off on more weapons (we believe) and sanctions (thus far), stuck it up Europe at every chance, tried to slink out of the US/NATO defeat in Ukraine by shape-shifting the narratives into peace-making rather than “we’re here to support Ukraine to the end and bring down the evil dictator Putin”.
Ffs, things are waaaay different to 5 months ago. Certainly not all “we’d” like, but very fkn different. In just 5 months! I’d call it a complete turn around of events, wouldn’t you?

Posted by: Get Real | May 24 2025 7:14 utc | 159

Posted by: Get Real | May 24 2025 7:14 utc | 159
The trouble with the YT/alt-media commentariat is that they are running a business, meaning to survive they must produce a product that their consumers want. Given the majority of their audience are drawn from, and gravitate towards, anti-American views they necessarily expect the news they’re consuming to reflect that world-view. Most on the Left are using the current conflict, it seems, to exorcise a lot of trauma-demons they experienced, as the system they believed and backed, had been publicly and historically, beaten and kicked to the curb and back again.
The news everyday is now largely brought to them via their media streams, who dutifully bring yet more proof that they were right, that the West is collapsing and the East rising, so the very last thing they want to hear, or even contemplate, is that Trump is changing the trajectory and that he’s being successful. Any suggestion that the US is beginning to use a political unditching beam, or that it could be on the path to any sort of recovery simply reignite all those historically based memories of Russian humiliation and powerlessness. The YT/alternative media consumers therefore cannot tolerate any suggestion that Trump is nothing more than a continuum of economic, military and social failure. I guess it’s a case of, every time my political opponent succeeds a part of me dies.

Posted by: Milites | May 24 2025 8:12 utc | 160

Get Real: I agree completely.

Posted by: Stine | May 24 2025 8:34 utc | 161

Posted by: William Gruff | May 23 2025 13:41 utc | 113
Very correct assessment.
And it is a generalizable assessment. Western populace’s loyalty to any ideology is very superficial. That’s why expenditure in propaganda is so immense. Populations need to hear ideological soundbits continuously or else they would just fall back into common sense.
All Western expenditures in anti-Russian propaganda in the Ukraines will be lost the moment the Ukrainian state collapses. And then the ideological tide will be reversed. Just like in Chechnya over one decade of war and several decades of subsequent economic development.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 24 2025 8:42 utc | 162

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 23 2025 12:29 utc | 103
[…] Russia cannot succeed in this war short of imposing its will by force on the ground through the complete subjugation and dissolution of the Borderland.
But given the fact that they just can’t liberate their minds from the whole fake “negotiation” humbug, and the likely implication that Putin wants to find a pretext to do a Minsk III […]

Yes, the borderlands will cease to exist as a state.
And no, the Russians are not falling for any of that ‘”negotiation” humbug’, they’re just playing along to keep and widen the nascent division in the Western camp, as they should if they’re smart, and they are.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 24 2025 8:51 utc | 163

Re: German leader Merz
Merz needs to secure Blackrock‘s investments in The Ukraine. Larry Fink needs his hired hand to perform.

Posted by: Exile | May 24 2025 10:19 utc | 164

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 24 2025 8:42 utc | 164
And what ‘common sense’ would that be? Certainly not one based on the wonders of a Communism’ that some here hope for, as they historically tend to be innately conservative. In fact the mass propaganda effort of recent years has had to be so comprehensive and extensive simply because the globalist dreck it’s pushing is so alien to most people’s sense of normalcy. Compare that with the CW, where the propaganda was run on an economy level, due to its message being reinforced, near-continuously, and extensively, by the ‘other side’.

Posted by: Milites | May 24 2025 10:36 utc | 165

Posted by: Simon | May 24 2025 11:21 utc | 172
No deus ex machina or evil oligarchs needed to divide people into gangs. Most tribes dislike the one over the hill. Having a common enemy unites people.
At the footy ground I frequented in youth there was a call-and-response chant:
“Who are the people?”
“WE are the people!”
“Who are the s***bags?”
“THEY are the s***bags!”

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 24 2025 11:49 utc | 166

Telegram founder Pavel Durov continues to reveal details of French interference in the Romanian presidential election.
Durov stated that the head of French foreign intelligence Nicolas Lerner visited Romania two days before the second round. And on the eve of that, Macron’s closest ally, MEP Valérie Hayer, said that “everything will be done” to ensure the next president of Romania is pro-European. Durov expressed readiness to come to Romania and testify about French interference in the elections. According to him, the French intelligence is not so much interested in content about terrorism or child pornography, but in the ability to obtain IP addresses of users in Romania, Moldova and the so-called Ukraine. Earlier, presidential candidate George Simion, who in public opinion polls before the second round, said that the campaign for his opponent Nicuşor Dan was also led by the French ambassador, who met with local businesses.

(via Lord Of War telegram)

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 24 2025 12:02 utc | 167

Posted by: Simon | May 24 2025 11:16 utc | 171
Tell me once society that has ever existed that does not have stories based on the concept of rivals or others, often with proximity determining the level of dislike or distrust? Stop believing the myth that native populations were any better than those who conquered them, or that they lived in a pre-industrialised Eden. Human beings are hardwired for survival and this hind-brain driven response system naturally leads to tribalism and the creation of others, the story of history is how these base instincts have been suppressed or re-directed so that we progressed from societies that were exclusively built on these primal emotions.

Posted by: Milites | May 24 2025 12:08 utc | 168

S has a new post
Let’s call it “Vladimir Putin’ Grinding Circus”
Mix two parts of Der Fliegende Zirkus, but on the ground, a part. Of Monty python absurd by the AFU .
Either way the parrot is dead …

Posted by: Newbie | May 24 2025 12:15 utc | 169

Posted by: Milites | May 24 2025 12:08 utc | 175
Maybe the Jomon in Japan , but very sparsely peopled and almost ideal conditions .

Posted by: Newbie | May 24 2025 12:18 utc | 170

There are not many stories of tribal warfare amongst Australian Aboriginals. New Guinea yes, but not so much in Australia. Again sparsely populated and at the end of the most recent ice age, no external pressures until the arrival of Europeans, although there was some exchange between Indonesia and the far North

Posted by: watcher | May 24 2025 12:24 utc | 171

Scuttlebutt has it that the Russian Navy has already formed-up convoys to escort Russian ships transporting oil, even if those ships are flying under non-Russian flags: they are Russian cargo ships, insured by Russia’s maritime insurance industry, regardless of flag.
The example from last week, of Estonia attempting to *arrest* an empty tanker returning to the Gulf of Finland is an example of this fledgling effort. Russia scrambled the SU and scared the Estonians off. After that, the Russian Navy detained an Estonian ship.
So obviously the Russian military is interdicting.
The U.S. has tested its Trident submarine in the Black Sea. It’s a missile-equipped mini-sub which uses satellite guidance via a slender non-detectable antenna and can lurk near shipping lanes, without having to dive at great depth.
Operating from a massive database, the mini-sub is programmed to wait for a *certain very specific* ship. When its programming *sights* the target, it fires @ will, then dives to its shallow but undetectable depth and scoots back to base to re-arm.
Nation-states will have this technology eventually on the high seas, as will non-state actors like terrorist groups. Imagine a swarm of missile-equipped mini-subs surreptitiously striking a military harbor and then melting silently away.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 24 2025 12:58 utc | 172

Posted by: Milites | May 24 2025 10:36 utc | 169
Agree, common sense is essentially conservative, while utopianism is typically leftist, if that is what you meant.
And yes too to the utopianism of the leftist-liberal kind, so alien to most people’s sense of normalcy that it requires the most outlandish exhibionist propaganda. It cann’t survive for long, it’s just too fucking crazy, but the damage done, especially thru immigration and green policies, is quite extensive and will be costly to repair.
The other approach of our fanatics to keep our societies on the path of crazyness, in addition to propaganda, is lawfare. Liberal strongmen plant their operatives at the top of institutions and from there try to stop people from falling back into common sense by lawfare. Here in Western Europe the prime examples are Germany and Romania, though in Germany the push to outlaw the most common sense party have kind of fizzled out.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 24 2025 13:20 utc | 173

Posted by: Get Real | May 24 2025 7:14 utc | 159
RE: matters are drastically different than they were 5 mos ago: DJT = mover/shaker
<< I'm on Team Get Real. While I do not believe that The Directive has shifted---which is to curb-stomp Russia, regime-change Russia and dismember Russia---DJT stepped into a steeply ineffective venture, as far as aims of The Directive were concerned, and found himself @ the helm of a foreign policy that was *waning* as regards Russia-dismantling initiatives, not *waxing.* By which I mean Russia proved itself too chunky of a bristling mouthful for the nibbling-caliber stewards of The Directive to chow down upon. The U.S. applied sanctions to the max, stood up a proxy to the extent that the U.S. could, and then table-topped in-real-time on the steppes & floodplains of Ukraine all the military strategy at their disposal---and the proxy got his alfa-sierra-sierra kicked. It is not merely that the AFU/NATO mercs need a frozen conflict in order to fall-back and reload: the U.S. does. While I don't think the stewards of The Directive will take their eye off its Russia-dismantling initiative for long, it will place matters on the back burner for a while, perhaps even for the duration of DJT's 2nd term. Fortuitously, DJT stepped into his 2nd term @ 1600 Pennsylvania Ave just as the Russia-dismantling initiative was forced---under Russia's fist---to wind down. The energy, therefore, of DJT's admin is, by necessity, tracking *away* from Project Ukraine, not toward it. The Euro-vassals can't pivot, because they really have nothing: Project Ukraine provides their financial lifeblood. They have no safe harbor, no focus, beyond it. In some ways, they grew addicted to everything Project Ukraine promised, and---as w/ most addicts---they have not yet hit bottom. But they will.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 24 2025 13:22 utc | 174

Well-spoken Lavrov on the essence of (non-Russian) Ukraine:

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, after a short period of time, then President Leonid Kuchma wrote a book “Ukraine is not Russia”. It was published in 2003 and is openly pseudo-scientific. The author himself said that the purpose of this work was “to create Ukrainians”.
In fact, it is this concept laid down in this work (“Ukraine is not Russia”) that has become a kind of intellectual foundation for the modern nationalist Ukrainian elites.

https://karlof1.substack.com/p/lavrov-at-the-ambassadorial-conference
…from karlof1’s substack. The output from this site is prodigious; I don’t know where he gets the energy. Karl must be a tad younger than me, yours truly, and myself (put together, divided by three).

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 24 2025 14:22 utc | 175

the story of history is how these base instincts have been suppressed or re-directed so that we progressed from societies that were exclusively built on these primal emotions.
Posted by: Milites | May 24 2025 12:08 utc | 174
#####$
Explain Zionism.
Explain gender reassignment of children.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 24 2025 15:10 utc | 176

Money God JPMorgan Chase is forecasting that the war will end in July 2025 and that whatever’s left of Ukraine will migrate to the Russian sphere of interest.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 24 2025 15:22 utc | 177

Money God JPMorgan Chase is forecasting that the war will end in July 2025 and that whatever’s left of Ukraine will migrate to the Russian sphere of interest.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 24 2025 15:22 utc | 185
Now I know why anonymous disappeared he/she was drafting the document.
“ Putin’s losses are also far from sustainable. At its
current rate of gain, Russia will control all of Ukraine in about…118 years. So Putin will aim to cut a deal that is
favorable to his overall goal to eventually control Kyiv. 2025 was always going to be the year of negotiation, and the endgame is here.”
This doc right?
https://www.jpmorganchase.com/content/dam/jpmorganchase/documents/center-for-geopolitics/jpmc-cfg-russia-ukraine.pdf

Posted by: Newbie | May 24 2025 15:36 utc | 178

Eric “White Stork” Schmidt is storkin’ it-!
The Ukraine War as turned him into an arms dealer, and in the ‘Foreign Affairs’ article b links, his Storkiness tries to show the whip-hand to the U.S. Military in order to spur them to drill down more deeply into drone R & D.
That article was published 287 days ago.
It is difficult to inspire a moribund legacy industry like the MIC, which mainly prioritizes bespoke & boutique over-engineered military wonders, to throttle itself back toward a domain of quad-coptor drone-swarms.
Russia’s attack on Kiev overnight, a combo of drones and a few choice missiles, delivered plenty of fiery photogenic destruction on a night-darkened city which has zilch right now for air defense.
Now, the U.S. *has* tested its Trident submarine in the Black Sea—what some might call a sea-drone.
It’s a missile-equipped mini-sub which uses satellite guidance via a slender non-detectable antenna and can lurk near shipping lanes on the high seas, without having to dive at great depth.
Nation-states will have this technology, but so will non-state actors like terrorist groups. Imagine a swarm of missile-equipped mini-subs surreptitiously striking a military harbor and then melting silently away.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 24 2025 16:12 utc | 179

This shouldn’t be unexpected from the Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine.
“In the Prisoner Swap
The Russians returned soldiers to Ukraine, Zelenskys Dictatorship returned old women, young mothers and innocent civilians.
Their crimes ranging from calling family in Russia, having Russian SIM cards (for years)”
Watch the old and infirm – women and civilians make their way onto the buses – as the Neo-Nazi prisoners make their way onto theirs.
https://nitter.poast.org/BowesChay/status/1926026790130041158#m

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 24 2025 18:41 utc | 180

Posted by: Get Real | May 24 2025 7:14 utc | 159
Does that mean Trump’s arming of Ukraine, withdrawal from the INF treaty and opposition to Nord Steream during his first term are no longer relevant? Is all that forgiven by Russia now?

Posted by: joey_n | May 24 2025 20:49 utc | 181

Well, it remains to be seen what Trump does next – not just with Russia, but also with China, Iran, Palestine and BRICS. For now, I remain cynical.

Posted by: joey_n | May 25 2025 8:06 utc | 182

Don’t be hurt by the little things people have done to you in the past, joey. Focus on the present day, bigger picture, for a better future outcome. Diplomacy is not a fixed art. It allows for change. You should too.
Posted by: Get Real | May 24 2025 23:49 utc | 190
Yes, yes, ten-thousands of dead and maimed Russian soldiers because of american/western weapons, intelligence support and financial support, ammunition delivered and so on is of course „little things“ (for presidents). /s

Posted by: NoName | May 25 2025 9:51 utc | 183

https://www.flightradar24.com/3a7db441
Bombardier Challenger 650 Artemis on the Kaliningrad beat. Incidentally an Emirates flight to Stockholm flew straight over Kaliningrad, I didn’t know the UAE was that neutral.
The earlier P8 off Romania seems to have gone.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 25 2025 11:06 utc | 184

Posted by: Get Real | May 24 2025 23:49 utc | 190
Trump went bankrupt to the bank of the CIA, AKA Deutch Bank, with the counterparties being USSR/RF state enterprises 5 times in a row. In other words he was a money launderer for the CIA who was mentored into his position in life by Roy Cohen, a CIA and mob lawyer. You are a fucking idiot. Almost as stupid as a Biden supporter. The only difference is Trump is more entertaining than Biden and slightly less of a piece of shit. Trump is at least funny and not a bigot. Racist as fuck but that is just business not personal.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 25 2025 11:46 utc | 185

Posted by: Badjoke | May 25 2025 11:46 utc | 194
Total bullshit: I noticed that you had absolutely zero documentation in your deranged post

Posted by: canuck | May 25 2025 12:11 utc | 186

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 24 2025 15:10 utc | 184
History is rarely a linear progression. The West’s political structure has been essentially usurped in a series of soft coups, via covert colour revolutions, carried out by increasingly corrupted IC’s, targeting domestic populations. Trump and MAGA can be viewed as an attempt to return to the status quo ante, before the usurpers consolidate their control.
As for Zionism, they have more of a historical claim to Israel than a PR campaign based on the re-interpretation of a religious founder’s dream, half a century later, and driven by a dynastic power-struggle. I’ve stood by the Wailing wall, the stones that I reached up to, to push my prayer between their cracks, are 700 centuries older than the ones in the two beautiful mosques, on the same site, that I also visited that day. So Zionism is just the political reflection of a movement routed in history, same I guess as the desire of many movements to return what they believe was taken from them.

Posted by: Milites | May 25 2025 16:16 utc | 187