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May 22, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-111
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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https://turcopolier.com/how-the-covert-ukrainian-resistance-movement-is-operating-behind-russian-lines/ Posted by: morongobill | May 22 2025 13:01 utc | 1 Full hit, not just a radar or TEL Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 13:02 utc | 2 About the recent comment by a Russian official that, legally, the dissolution of USSR required a referendum in Ukraine (referendum that hasn’t been done), I have the feeling that it is to introduce the idea that ALL ukrainian oblasts should vote by referendum if they wish to (1) join Russia (2) join their fate to the Galicians in a demilitarized and denazified shithole. Posted by: Asian Frog | May 22 2025 13:12 utc | 3 DJT has reportedly rejected demands by EU warmongers that negotiations on the Ukraine conflict should result in an unconditional ceasefire. When DJT spoke to Ursula, Macron Dior and Friedrich “uses the small spoon” Merz after his call w/ VVP, they insisted that this next round of talks on resolving the conflict “must” end w/ an unconditional truce. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 13:16 utc | 4 About the recent comment by a Russian official that, legally, the dissolution of USSR required a referendum in Ukraine (referendum that hasn’t been done), I have the feeling that it is to introduce the idea that ALL ukrainian oblasts should vote by referendum if they wish to (1) join Russia (2) join their fate to the Galicians in a demilitarized and denazified shithole. Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 13:27 utc | 5 https://turcopolier.com/how-the-covert-ukrainian-resistance-movement-is-operating-behind-russian-lines/ Posted by: Urban Fox | May 22 2025 13:40 utc | 6 Overkill for ukraine, and dangerous for former republics… Posted by: Urban Fox | May 22 2025 13:49 utc | 7 Posted by: Urban Fox | May 22 2025 13:40 utc | 6 Posted by: Eol | May 22 2025 13:50 utc | 8 @3 Posted by: paddy | May 22 2025 14:23 utc | 9 So the Russian Federation *is* de-jure the Soviet Union under a different name legally speaking and thus potentially the only legitimate government in the whole former U S.S.R. Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 14:24 utc | 10 @5 Posted by: paddy | May 22 2025 14:27 utc | 11 @10 Posted by: paddy | May 22 2025 14:31 utc | 12
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/05/21/kobyakov-the-ussr-still-legally-exists-so-the-ukrainian-crisis-is-an-internal-matter Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 22 2025 14:35 utc | 13 @5 Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 14:43 utc | 14 Giving the pot another stir:
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 22 2025 14:45 utc | 15 Russians use motorbikes to circumvent FPV drones Posted by: Melaleuca | May 22 2025 14:51 utc | 16 “Slightly earlier, problems began with GB” Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 14:52 utc | 17 *** Send the Ukraine speaking Ruthenians and Galicians back to the Hapsburg. Posted by: frithguild | May 22 2025 15:06 utc | 18 Does seem strange timing to give this topic an airing, but Mr. Kobyakov is close to the centre of what might be termed the “collegiate thought” in the Russian government, so presumably this represents an official strand of thought. Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 15:18 utc | 19 Twenty posts in, and no Anonymous? Posted by: Melaleuca | May 22 2025 15:31 utc | 20 A contributor to the Colonel’s old site looks at the problem of remnant Ukraine:- Posted by: English Outsider | May 22 2025 15:32 utc | 21
Agree and I also think it may be at least partly, slightly tongue-in-cheek. Perhaps to scare the shit out of the Balkans lol Posted by: Avtonom | May 22 2025 15:40 utc | 22 Lindsey Anne and Danang Dick have lined up what they claim are 81 potential Senate votes to slap 500% tariffs on countries which buy oil/gas from Russia. The bill especially would target China, which is a major consumer of Russian energy products. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 15:41 utc | 23 Twenty posts in, and no Anonymous? Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 15:45 utc | 24 @ English Outsider | May 22 2025 15:32 utc | 21 who is early in appreciation of Alex Krainer perspective…thanks. Posted by: psychohistorian | May 22 2025 15:48 utc | 25 Russians use motorbikes to circumvent FPV drones Posted by: jpc | May 22 2025 15:50 utc | 26 Vladimir Putin : A decision has been made to create a security buffer zone along the border between Russia and Ukraine. The Russian Armed Forces are currently solving this problem. Posted by: MiniMO | May 22 2025 16:17 utc | 27 The Trump admin disingenuine behavior regarding Israhell/Gaza calls into question it’s credibility with regard to Ukraine. Posted by: jared | May 22 2025 16:30 utc | 28 Medvedev has so often played the Bad Cop as opposed to VVP’s Good Cop in public statements regarding Project Ukraine, even functioning as Russia’s unfiltered Id in his social media posts, that his high-profile address @ the legal forum in Saint Petersburg showcased his serious-minded, pragmatic & analytical side, devoid of smack or trash talk, an absolutely level-headed assessment of where the SMO stands. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 16:36 utc | 29 almost ironically… at what cost? Posted by: Urban Fox | May 22 2025 16:40 utc | 30 Quite a lengthy piece here, reporting on a growing mood of mutiny and rebellion in the ranks of the Ukrainian field commanders and their troops: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/05/22/a-murmur-in-the-armed-forces-of-ukraine-will-it-turn-into-a-mutiny-and-lawlessness-of-the-makhnovshchina
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There’s quite a bit more, including a claim that Banderite extremists in the Lvov region are hiding en masse from the TCC press-gangs, at the same time they are building caches of small arms, which doesn’t bode well for the future of Ukraine’s internal stability. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 22 2025 16:43 utc | 31 Been reading – that Russian forces are in the process of building a security buffer zone in Ukraine. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 22 2025 16:44 utc | 32 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 16:36 utc | 29 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 16:51 utc | 33 A sparsely populated portion of the Bryansk Region shares a deep & dense forest belt w/ Ukraine just across the border. Kiev’s DRG Group is attempting to hustle in a *big* force through the forest line. It’s shaping up as a suicide-dash, not unlike what the Kursk Incursion proved to be, but this particular iteration is smaller in scale. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 16:57 utc | 34 The DRG Group has been training just outside Sumy—the very spot Russia hit w/ an Iskandr strike on 20 May. Posted by: jpc | May 22 2025 17:07 utc | 35 The neo-Nazis of Kiev seem to be implementing a Desperation Annoyance Strategy against Moscow: drone-swarming the area during daylight hours. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 17:11 utc | 36 @29 Posted by: paddy | May 22 2025 17:37 utc | 37
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 17:11 utc | 36 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 22 2025 18:24 utc | 38 @ Melaleuca | May 22 2025 15:31 utc | 20
Posted by: boneless | May 22 2025 18:26 utc | 39 EU gives €5.5 mln lifeline to US’ Radio Free Europe amid funding cuts Posted by: Red Star | May 22 2025 18:38 utc | 40 No doubt the escalating desperation over the next several months will accelerate various terror-tactics in urban spaces. Posted by: rk | May 22 2025 18:49 utc | 41 @ rk | May 22 2025 18:49 utc | 41 Posted by: boneless | May 22 2025 18:56 utc | 42 There is a theme of ethernal punishment based on repeating or doing something forever Posted by: Piotr Berman | May 22 2025 19:01 utc | 43 @36 Posted by: Fred777 | May 22 2025 19:21 utc | 44 Commenters here have not mentioned a key decision Russia will make, or has made. The 4 borders will not be reached simultaneously. Will they stop near the earliest Western edges of the Donbass until the rest are done? — It is true they have gone into the Kharkov oblast but I guess due to the strategic value of the Siverskyi-Donets River?? I am saying that front is not a sure indication on this as they plan a buffer zone anyway. Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | May 22 2025 20:09 utc | 45 Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | May 22 2025 20:09 utc | 45 Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 20:50 utc | 46 @ Tips | May 22 2025 20:27 utc | 46 Posted by: boneless | May 22 2025 21:06 utc | 47 Why are you even here? Posted by: rk | May 22 2025 21:16 utc | 48
uhuh, like the tall tale of the hms defender that you always tell. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 22 2025 21:25 utc | 49 EU host by their own petard? Posted by: Jo | May 22 2025 21:46 utc | 50
In the ’90’s, the US was not nearly so concerned about the former Yugoslavia’s sanctity as a functioning state or its borders, in fact the US was quite eager to see it broken up into ethnic enclaves to ‘free’ the suffering peoples, except for the Serbs, who were made into pariahs and blamed for everything. Seems the US only embraces the ‘principles’ that serve its agenda. Posted by: Mike R | May 22 2025 21:51 utc | 51 There was never that much external support for the terrorists in Northern Ireland. None, as far as I know, for the terrorists on the Loyalist side. For the other side, Semtex from the old Czechoslovakia, money from Noraid until that dried up. Bit of training and encouragement from elsewhere but nothing serious. Posted by: Gaelach | May 22 2025 22:16 utc | 52 There was never that much external support for the terrorists in Northern Ireland. None, as far as I know, for the terrorists on the Loyalist side. For the other side, Semtex from the old Czechoslovakia, money from Noraid until that dried up. Bit of training and encouragement from elsewhere but nothing serious. Gaelach | May 22 2025 22:16 utc | 53 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 22 2025 22:25 utc | 54 While on the subject of the inability to admit failure, or defeat in this case, the entire Western Establishment will soon have that problem as a Russian victory over Western-controlled puppet Ukraine is imminent! While on the subject of the inability to admit failure, or defeat in this case, the entire Western Establishment will soon have that problem as a Russian victory over Western-controlled puppet Ukraine is imminent! What’s odd is that after several centuries of fighting the Brits and each other, they chose to use independence to open their borders to half the world, with Sinn Fein at the forefront of opening the gates. Jo | May 22 2025 21:46 utc | 51 Posted by: Cynic | May 22 2025 23:25 utc | 58 Back on May 9th, when Russian President Putin announced a willingness to negotiate with Ukraine, the normal idiots flooded MoA with their ridiculous claims that Putin’s offer came because “he was selling out Russia,” or “Russia was losing,” etc. Posted by: Nobody Special | May 22 2025 23:33 utc | 59 ^^^^ Posted by: Nobody Special | May 22 2025 23:34 utc | 60 What has Trumpian Phoneyfart said on his soap box about the 480 drones the Ukrainians fired at Russia ? Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 22 2025 23:35 utc | 61 Ukraine has proposed that EU member states allocate a fixed portion of their GDP to fund the country’s armed forces. The bloc’s leaders have pledged continued military support for Kiev. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 22 2025 23:47 utc | 62 @64 Posted by: paddy | May 22 2025 23:58 utc | 63 Posted by: Cynic | May 22 2025 23:25 utc | 60I’m Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 23 2025 0:00 utc | 64 Imagine if you read a headline: “BRICS member states allocated a fixed portion of their GDP to fund Russia’s armed forces. BRICS leaders have pledged continued military support for Russia to colonize the west.” Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 23 2025 0:10 utc | 65 “UPDATE DS just said 12 km2 for previous day (other maps beg to differ)” Posted by: Newbie | May 23 2025 0:12 utc | 66 Sun Of Alabama | May 23 2025 0:10 utc | 67
Agreed. I like the term “copper-top (q.v. The Matrix),” too. Posted by: robjira | May 23 2025 0:16 utc | 67 Commenters here have not mentioned a key decision Russia will make, or has made. The 4 borders will not be reached simultaneously. Will they stop near the earliest Western edges of the Donbass until the rest are done? … Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | May 23 2025 0:42 utc | 68 I don’t think so. He wants his 4? 5? Russian speaking oblasts plus a passive security beyond it. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 23 2025 1:30 utc | 69 If AFU decides to see this through they’re lucky if it’s only Posted by: Newbie | May 23 2025 1:57 utc | 70 No, there’s no difference. They were doing it one, two or three years ago as well. Kursk was hit by himars too, the news said 12 wounded. After so many years it’s clear Putin likes it, Russian government likes it, the population likes since none is complaining that there is zero protection and no MoD, so let them live the cluster beach life while they kiss Trump’s ass begging for Swift Posted by: Screwdriver | May 23 2025 3:24 utc | 71 Truce and peace talks are just “yeah, yeah, whatever” for Russia. Now that the kill/non recoverable ratio is 20 or 30 to one and getting higher by the week Russia can keep slow mowing for years. Kiev outta be packing for relocating to Lvov by the end of summer. Posted by: comrade simba | May 23 2025 4:00 utc | 72 Putin presented Lavrov with the highest Russian honour at a ceremony the other day. Posted by: Melaleuca | May 23 2025 4:54 utc | 73 Posted by: frithguild | May 22 2025 15:06 utc | 18 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 23 2025 6:57 utc | 74 Posted by: morongobill | May 22 2025 13:01 utc | 1 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 23 2025 7:00 utc | 75 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 13:16 utc | 4
he is probably rather “OUT” of the “daily” tasks / planning of the SMO as new head of the Russian ground forces Posted by: ghiwen | May 23 2025 7:01 utc | 76 Maybe Bukovina back to Romania too – but only if Romania behaves, which is unlikely now that their Government has been captured in an MI6 style election steal.” Posted by: rk | May 23 2025 7:40 utc | 77 @ rk | May 23 2025 7:40 utc | 77
Thank you, newly elected President of Romania Nicusor Dan, for personally providing this humble forum with a clarification of your planned state policy. It all makes sense now. Posted by: boneless | May 23 2025 8:17 utc | 78 Spanish A400m transport left Constanza in Romania this morning, presumably a delivery for Ukraine or the NATO base Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 23 2025 8:26 utc | 79 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 22 2025 16:36 utc | 29
WSJ “confirms” something –> ridiculous Posted by: ghiwen | May 23 2025 8:33 utc | 80 English Outsider @21 Posted by: Old Microbiologist | May 23 2025 8:43 utc | 81 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 23rd May 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-76d Posted by: The Busker | May 23 2025 8:43 utc | 82 Thank you for weekly updates, Rob! Always appreciated. Posted by: Konami | May 23 2025 8:57 utc | 83 Posted by: English Outsider | May 22 2025 15:32 utc | 21 Posted by: snake | May 23 2025 9:09 utc | 84 Posted by: Gaelach | May 22 2025 22:35 utc | 57 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 23 2025 9:58 utc | 86 @ Rob Campbell, the Busker: Posted by: Konami | May 23 2025 10:04 utc | 87 Sounds like they should have taken the Istanbul 2 deal, but the cocaine junta never learns.
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Posted by: 5thcolumn | May 23 2025 10:41 utc | 88 Posted by: Old Microbiologist | May 23 2025 8:43 utc | 81 Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 11:00 utc | 89 Realistically, how does Russia manage this buffer zone idea? I suppose with deep, wide minefields, dragon’s teeth and so on. Every Ukr attack would be a suicide banzai charge. Odessa? That’s still the big question Posted by: Eighthman | May 23 2025 11:01 utc | 90 BRICS / Global South would be orgasmic with joy if the USSR reformed. China would be relieved that they then have a civilizational ally rather than one only forced into their orbit by the stupidity of their adversaries. Posted by: William Gruff | May 23 2025 11:06 utc | 91 Posted by: Eighthman | May 23 2025 11:01 utc | 90 Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 11:11 utc | 92 Tied at the hip Posted by: DunGroanin | May 23 2025 11:22 utc | 93 “There is a theme of eternal punishment based on repeating or doing something forever….Sisyphus rolling boulder up a hill..” Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 11:23 utc | 94 Konami | May 23 2025 10:04 utc | 87 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 23 2025 11:26 utc | 95 It seems that the Russians have a tendency sometimes to go full retards as well. There is no way that they can create any buffer zones in all of those regions that they mentioned including Odessa. Also, that USSR thing is also stupid, counterproductive and shortsighted. Posted by: JamesBond | May 23 2025 11:28 utc | 96 YetAnotherAnon: Thank you, I did not know. 2022 already, the UK is leading the pack! Posted by: Konami | May 23 2025 11:38 utc | 97 Today, my impression (developing) is that Trump admin activity re. Ukraine is largely theater – meant to draw attention to their humane activity why distracting from other failures and from activity re. Istahell and Iran. Posted by: jared | May 23 2025 11:43 utc | 98 reply to 92 Posted by: Eighthman | May 23 2025 11:53 utc | 99 European leaders are the back up dancers to the performance – akin to La Cage au Fowl. Posted by: jared | May 23 2025 12:09 utc | 100 |
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