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May 11, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-102

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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can anyone tell me Putin’s security plan..I think peace is coming to Ukraine whether Sleezensky wants it or not, but Ukraine is not the problem for Russia, the problem is the collective west wants to use Ukraine as a base to destroy Russia, and to take its resources..
So what would Putin’s security plan require..TB effective?
I would not be surprised to see Putin offer Sleezensky on Thursday with something like the following?
1. Russia to approve /veto all Ukrainian laws.
2. No Ukraine military allowed in Ukraine. Russian military to occupy Ukraine until the self determination vote.
3. Russia military bases to be erected along borders of Ukraine..
4. Russia to approve all passports issued, immigration allowed and Ukrainian citizens allowed to return to Ukraine.
5. All foreign owned military bases to close.
6. Ukraine to file bankruptcy no debt contracts nothing to survive.
7. All flights into and Out of Ukraine to originate in a Russia controlled Airport where Russia will screen/detain/ return or permit to continue all passengers, crew and freight.
8. Russia to appoint the head of state of Ukraine. He or she will serve at the pleasure of Russia. Russia to approve all candidates for election to legislative bodies and persons allowed to serve in high level jobs in the bureaucracy.
9. Only Russian teachers to teach History in Ukraine schools.
10. Russian to be the official language of Ukraine.
11. Before the end of two years, Ukraine to hold nation wide a self determination election. Do the citizens want to be Ukraine or Russian?
12. Ukraine to switch its currency to Russian issued currency.
Central bank of Russia to serve as Central bank for Ukraine.
13. Ukraine to rebuild all of the Russian hero statutes destroyed since 2001.
14. Territory occupied by Russian forces to be Russian irrespective of anything to the contrary.
I don’t think there is a chance in hell Sleezensky will go for it
but what his the alternative? I believe Ukraine will be part of Russia soon either way. If Sleezensky recognizes this as Ukraine’s last chance to minimize the impact of a Russian win over Ukraine he might accept most of it?
Obviously the Collective west especially the Merkel Stammer Marcon war team will not like it.. but they will not be parties to the negotiations.. I don’t think Trump will care one way or another, he has washed his hands of it..

Posted by: snake | May 12 2025 3:25 utc | 201

Re: Posted by: Paranaense | May 12 2025 0:00 utc | 177

Even if it happens, it would mean euro liberals + ukrops have accepted their errors and resumed talks in Istambul after they have lost a lot more.
Whether you think slow SMO/attrition vs sq. km is brilliant or stupid, I think Putin offering to restart the Istanbul peace talks is definitely 3D chess, regardless of where it leads. It shows that he won’t be painted into a corner.
Posted by: Paranaense | May 12 2025 0:00 utc | 177
Simply not true.
The Russians HOLD LESS LAND in Ukraine NOW than they did during Istanbul 1 in March / April 2022 – simply a FACT – at that time the Russians held large chunks of land in Kharkiv & Kherson they no longer hold.
Why do you try and sneak such falsities into the discussion?

Posted by: Julian | May 12 2025 3:33 utc | 202

Re: Posted by: snake | May 12 2025 3:25 utc | 201
A post full of absolute fantasies.
For any of this to happen – Russia must occupy the territory of Ukraine it wishes to impose these laws upon – if you don’t occupy it you won’t see any of this happen.
Get on with it.

Posted by: Julian | May 12 2025 3:47 utc | 203

@ 176
Putin said “we’re at war….”
Again, “at war”, not SMO.
Istanbul offer is last attempt before declaration of war.
Anyone aiding Ukraine after declaration is co belligerent.
Stick your Taurus up your KeiSSer Menzz.
Play attention children.
“at war……..”.

Posted by: Suresh | May 12 2025 4:13 utc | 204

I don’t think Trump will care one way or another, he has washed his hands of it..
Posted by: snake | May 12 2025 3:25 utc | 201
There is zero chance that Trump has “washed his hands of it”. “It”, the project to destroy Russia and take all its stuff, has been going continuously since Truman started it in 1945. It is not going to be stopped now.
But don’t believe me watch Brian Berletic
US Talks “Peace” With Russia as US-trained Operators Kill Russian Generals in Moscow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cxLcG5Jzno

Posted by: acementhead | May 12 2025 4:18 utc | 205

RE: Posted by: Michael J | May 12 2025 2:58 utc | 200
I agree, but over the years, every time the U.S. looks like it’s over a barrel, China/Russia throw them a rope.
I understand not wanting a quick economic collapse, a globally, billions would end up dying. But what you are talking about requires the end of Imperialism.
And that isn’t going to go quietly (this is but a “little” noise)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rubio-visit-turkey-amid-renewed-150801759.html
“Rubio will accompany U.S. President Donald Trump on a May 11–14 visit to Saudi Arabia and Qatar aimed at deepening regional partnerships and discussing global security concerns. He will then continue to Antalya, Turkey, for a **NATO foreign ministers’ meeting**from May 14–16, where he is expected to address the** war in Ukraine and push for stronger Allied defense commitments.**
The visit comes as Russia publicly proposes restarting peace talks with Ukraine in ***Istanbul beginning May 15, but without agreeing to the unconditional 30-day ceasefire **demanded by the United States, Ukraine, and key European allies.**
UK announced sanctions starting tomorrow (UK useless, meaningless, they just want their hands in the Euro clear)
Guessing that was the UK/US “trade deal”…theft of EU everything.
So, was Thursday May 15th, pulled out of a hat by Putin?
Or did they just suddenly decide to have a 3 day NATO meeting at the same time?

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 4:27 utc | 206

Interesting snippet of a press conference
§| ‘Why On Earth…’: Pro-Putin Fico Loses Cool At Europe For ‘Obstructing’ Russia-Ukraine Peace
Times of India
Slovak PM Robert Fico lashed out at European leaders for blocking peace efforts in Ukraine. In a fiery statement, he questioned why Europe was against talks that could end the war.
Fico said the EU’s stance was pushing the region closer to prolonged conflict with Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5FU0h9GXU

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2025 4:47 utc | 207

Re: “ Fico said the EU’s stance was pushing the region closer to prolonged conflict with Russia.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5FU0h9GXU
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 12 2025 4:47 utc | 207
Even Fico has to know that there is no other way to raise the 800 Billion for EU/NATO coffers demanded by Ursula, or the 5% protection racket money demanded by the U.S. without a credible European “threat” to hang over their citizens head. Must have an active, sell able war…
I can see Rubio with Putin “hey, could you give us, like just a tiny NATO war, like maybe have just a couple of bombs drift towards Lithuania or Poland? The Poland warehouse fire thing isn’t going over to well… and we’ll, you can see in the midst of our EU theft campaign, how we can’t really have “peace” at the moment, but tell you what, we’ve got lots of contracts coming up, we’ll give back some gas contracts & toss a couple more, if you could just give the EU citizens a good scare for us!”…

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 5:00 utc | 208

14th Annual Meeting
https://tass.com/politics/1956301
11 MAY, 16:31
“Representatives of over 150 countries invited to security meeting in Moscow in late May”
Some excerpts:
“On May 27-29, 2025, the 13th international meeting of high representatives in charge of security issues will be held in Moscow under the** chairmanship of Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation **Sergey Shoigu. Invitations to participate in the forum have been sent to more than 150 states of the **global South and East, the CIS, CSTO, EAEU, SCO countries, as well as to the leadership of more than 20 international organizations,” the press service noted.
“The forum is an important international platform for exchanging opinions on all issues related to security and mechanisms for strengthening cooperation between partner countries in the fight against international terrorism, extremism, transnational crime, drug trafficking, as well as new challenges and threats.”
May is a busy month for the World.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 5:27 utc | 209

Posted by: Oui | May 11 2025 19:20 utc | 132
Posted by: HERMIUS | May 11 2025 19:52 utc | 139
Same in Italy Msm tv.

Posted by: Mario | May 12 2025 6:32 utc | 210

Putin’s idea to have peace talks with ukrops in Istambul is really good.
Not because it’s going to happen which most likely it won’t, but because it has got Trump and Endorgan on Russia’s side and left the euro liberals + ukrops isolated and stupid.
Even if it happens, it would mean euro liberals + ukrops have accepted their errors and resumed talks in Istambul after they have lost a lot more.
Posted by: Paranaense | May 12 2025 0:00 utc | 177
You interpret Trump wrong. He’s not interested in peace but in preserving his toy alive for more war. The zombies are running out of zombies. Like I’ve said before, the real population in Ukr must be much lower than their official numbers based on their very low requirements for energy as a country.
Trump also allowed Germany to send new supplies at the same time he pretends to fight for peace, didn’t he? And linked the Russia’s surrender to more supplies and sanctions.
Also if Putin negotiates with Zeli it means he considers Zeli legitimate and will cancel all previous statements that he is not. Will the government approve such deal? Because it would mean they have accepted twice the result of a coup in Ukr so they can’t say Nato is evil anymore, they approved each step by unanimous vote.
It is possible a 30 day ceasefire will make Turkey open the gates for visitors. Odessa can have new owners with rights for permanent deployment in Black Sea a month later.

Posted by: rk | May 12 2025 6:40 utc | 211

https://www.turkiyetoday.com/world/russia-alleges-macron-merz-and-starmer-had-cocaine-party-in-kyiv-in-a-veiled-statemen-3201276
Did Zacharova refer to this cocaine story ????? If so, wow.
Posted by: Eighthman | May 11 2025 18:54 utc | 124
Yes, she did. On her Telegram channel she wrote:
The video shows the President of France, the Prime Minister of Britain and the Chancellor of Germany.
Having pushed Zelensky into another hellish intrigue to disrupt the settlement and continue the bloodshed in Europe, as in a joke, a Frenchman, an Englishman and a German got on a train and … snorted.
Apparently, so much so that they forgot to put away their paraphernalia (a bag and a spoon) before the journalists arrived.
The fate of Europe is being decided in every sense by dependent temporary workers.
Incredible footage. As if the Almighty himself is lifting the curtain of this stinking Sabbath to the world, so that “those who have eyes to see.”
In 2022, I asked one Western ambassador: “How can you supply weapons to the unbalanced drug addict Zelensky, he has been on cocaine for many years?” And I received the answer: “For the EU, this is normal – many heads of Western states use it.”

Posted by: Moscow Exile | May 12 2025 6:45 utc | 212

It’s amazing how Doctor Eleven through the way he writes and expresses himself with similar childish diatribe, so much resembles the recently blocked troll William.
Posted by: George | May 12 2025 0:52 utc | 191
Is everyone William now? By that logic, maybe you’re William — since your comment contributes nothing and reads like pure trolling. For the record, Doctor Eleven has been around here for a long time, and his views are consistently opposed to William’s. William was broadly pro-Russia but also critically reflective of Putin’s decisions. In contrast, Doctor Eleven pushes entirely different narratives.
William, Trubind1, steel_porcupine, and a few others share a more nuanced and critical mode of reasoning — something neither you nor Doctor Eleven seem remotely interested in.
Which brings us to the real question: what exactly are you doing here, George? Your comments reflect more troll-like behavior than those you’re accusing. Without a second thought, I could name a couple dozen who add nothing meaningful to this forum who I would block — and you’d be high on that list. Perhaps the moderators should start there?

Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 7:07 utc | 213

Re: Posted by: snake | May 12 2025 3:25 utc | 201
A post full of absolute fantasies. For any of this to happen – Russia must occupy the territory of Ukraine it wishes to impose these laws upon – if you don’t occupy it you won’t see any of this happen.
Get on with it.
Posted by: Julian | May 12 2025 3:47 utc | 203
Agree that post was very weird scenario. quite unrealistic. And yet so are Russia’s positions. Let me explain why.
Under Russian law, especially after the 2020 constitutional amendments and the 2022 annexation referendums, the Russian Federation officially claims Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson as part of its sovereign territory — alongside Crimea. According to these legal changes, the Russian president (Mr Constitutional Lawyer) is constitutionally obligated to ensure the integrity and defense of all Russian territory, which now includes these annexed oblasts.
So here’s the contradiction: it’s now been nearly two years since those regions were declared Russian, yet about 20% or more of that territory — particularly in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson — remains under Ukrainian sovereign control. By Russia’s own legal standards, this is territory President Putin is required to defend and secure, even militarily if necessary. But in practice, full control has never been achieved.
The Kremlin tries to paper over this by referring to these areas as “temporarily occupied” by Ukraine, but the truth is obvious: the constitutional claim doesn’t match the battlefield reality. Putin is stuck between legal obligation and military limitations. To backtrack on the claim would be politically explosive at home; to admit failure would damage the image of strength that underpins his authority.
Now he is offering unconditional negotiations to Zelensky, someone he has said has no “legal” authority to negotiate or sign any treaty as he is not a legal President of Ukraine. Another curious self-contradiction. But how does Putin himself “negotiate” his claim of possession of the 20% of these oblasts he doesn’t actually control? The Russian position is as conflicted and lacks legal consistency as much as Ukrainian’s is.
It raises an awkward but important question: how long can a state claim land as its own, by constitutional decree, while failing to actually control it?
Putin is no more in control of circumstances today than Zelensky is. Both are stuck between a rock and a hard place with no negotiating room at all. Both are facing the real possibility of being removed from office if they act in a way that loses any of their claimed territory. One or both of them are going to end up with egg on their faces and possibly a bullet if things go really bad for their side.
But one thing is certain. The outcome is not going to be decided or predicted from here.

Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 7:29 utc | 214

11 MAY, 16:31
“Representatives of over 150 countries invited to security meeting in Moscow in late May”
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 5:27 utc | 209
These are the kinds of developments that still spark a flicker of long-term hope in me—that perhaps Russia, China, and other like-minded nations might eventually bring it home. If only it were possible. But I have my doubts. The opposition is formidable, and the psychological delusions are deeply entrenched—especially across the Western sphere, where denial and ideological rigidity reign supreme.

Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 7:39 utc | 215

11 MAY, 16:31
“Representatives of over 150 countries invited to security meeting in Moscow in late May”
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 5:27 utc | 209
These are the kinds of developments and events that still spark a flicker of long-term hope in me—that perhaps Russia, China, and other like-minded nations might eventually bring it home. If only it were possible. But I have my doubts. The opposition is formidable, and their delusions are deeply entrenched—across the Western sphere, where denial and ideological rigidity reign supreme.

Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 7:41 utc | 216

Busted Live
Posted by: Moscow Exile | May 12 2025 6:45 utc | 212
Thanks for that. Precious.

Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 8:18 utc | 217

what is it about this silly mix of words – ceasefire – negotiation – pre-condition …???
from the very beginning ( usa-russia talks 12.02.2025 ) the ceasefire idea came from trump
BUT negotiations are possible WITHOUT a ceasefire or pre-conditions —> minsk+istanbul in 2022
even successful ( until Boris killed them )
AND remember:
– ceasefire-proposal from russia Eastern Orthodox Christmas 2023 — rejected / not observed by ukr
– ceasefire-proposal between russia and usa about energy-infrastructure ( from 18.03.2025 ) — allegedly agreed by ukr. 1 week after putin-trump talks — not observed by ukr
– ceasefire-proposal from russia eastern 2025 — rejected / not observed by ukr
– ceasefire-proposal from russia around 8th may 2025 — rejected / not observed by ukr
trump was not even able to keep his part of the ceasefire-agreement about energy-infrastructure !!
so Trump had already wasted all days at least since March 18, 2025 to “…stop the killing …”
( typically sneaky on the subject of 30-days-unconditional ceasefire !!! )

Posted by: ghiwen | May 12 2025 8:31 utc | 218

It raises an awkward but important question: how long can a state claim land as its own, by constitutional decree, while failing to actually control it?
Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 7:29 utc | 214
I don’t see anyone complaining in Russia. And Ukr is losing people on a scale that is perfect for complete destruction, which both Nato and Russia probably think is best outcome. Basically cocaine team is killing more nazis than Putin is doing by his own design, which is hilarious.
I suspect Putin’s plan was never to liberate much or anything by force, except when needed or the entire population would have been killed, like Mariupol. I doubt he or even Ukros that ran away expected the kamikaze rate Ukr is willing to do for no benefit for themselves. Would you have predicted their happiness to kill what probably now is 100k in Kursk just so they make a story for CNN and get a few Big Macs for it? This is what happens when Idiocracy finds even bigger idiots, they fight for Mountain Dew.
I’m not a fan of Putin’s favorite answer for any question: “sorry, they’ve tricked me”, you can’t cry nato is bad when you approve every step they make.

Posted by: rk | May 12 2025 8:37 utc | 219

Posted by: rk | May 12 2025 8:37 utc | 219
Macdonald’s does not sell Mountain Dew. The do sell Fanta however.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 12 2025 9:02 utc | 220

Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 7:29 utc | 214
Russia may demand all complete four oblasts during eventual negotiations in Istambul.
Putin did not say he will negotiate with the Jewish comedian, he said he would negotiate with ‘Kiev’.
That’s it.
I’ve taken down all your arguments for your opinion that “Putin is no more in control of circumstances today than Zelensky is”.
I did in two sentences.
You wrote a short essay.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 12 2025 9:31 utc | 221

On the same day the Chinese signed a deal with the USA, they now say they support the 30 day ceasefire demand issued by the EU and USA
Well, at least we know where they stand now. Duplicitous bastards.

Posted by: Night Tripper | May 12 2025 10:15 utc | 222

Seven years ago it was announced that BASF would buy Monsanto. From that moment on I knew Europe was fucked. Ukrainian black earth, chernozyom, the richest agricultural land coveted by the nazi Germans of the 3d and now 4d Reich, that’s the reason VonDerKorrupten’s Brussels won’t let it go, even though that bird has flown.
L’Elysée denies the coke stash and calls it a snout cleaner, that’s the confirmation that Europe is ruled by chemists, they love chemical junk.

Posted by: Paco | May 12 2025 10:26 utc | 223

Posted by: Night Tripper | May 12 2025 10:15 utc | 222
The usual anti China misinformation bullshit.
Here’s the real very limited agreement.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202505/1333852.shtml
China’s position on the Ukraine war has been very consistent and that’s resolve through dialogue. China won’t throw Pootin under the bus as Pootin did to Assad of Syria.

Posted by: Surferket | May 12 2025 10:29 utc | 224

🇺🇦🇬🇧 Ukrainian channel RezidentUA writes:
Our source in the Office of the President reported that the President’s Office is discussing with British intelligence ways to disrupt the negotiation track in Istanbul. Provocative scenarios that would allow this to happen are being considered.

the british: nazi enablers, supporters of genocide, enemies of peace.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2025 10:29 utc | 225

You wrote a short (nuanced) essay.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 12 2025 9:31 utc | 221
I did. Now I am waiting to see what happens.
It raises an awkward but important question: how long can a state claim land as its own, by constitutional decree, while failing to actually control it?
Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 7:29 utc | 214
I don’t see anyone complaining in Russia.
Posted by: rk | May 12 2025 8:37 utc | 219
I can’t see how that would matter even if they did. We are unlikely to hear anything about it in advance of an announcement. It applies equally to Zelensky possibly more so. I’m sitting back relaxing while waiting for many things to unfold. I have no say in anything beyond reading the tea leaves for interest sake.

Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 10:48 utc | 226

On the same day the Chinese signed a deal with the USA, they now say they support the 30 day ceasefire demand issued by the EU and USA
Well, at least we know where they stand now. Duplicitous bastards.
Posted by: Night Tripper | May 12 2025 10:15 utc | 222
At least post the source. I have found it only on ukrainian propaganda outlets ukrinform and united24
https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-polytics/3991968-kitaj-pidtrimue-zaproponovane-ukrainou-evropou-i-ssa-30denne-pripinenna-vognu.html
https://united24media.com/latest-news/china-backs-ukraines-30-day-ceasefire-proposal-with-us-and-eu-partners-8295

“Regarding the ‘Ukraine crisis,’ China’s position has been consistent and clear. We believe that all efforts should be directed toward achieving peace,” Lin said.
“We have always emphasized and will continue to emphasize that the only viable way out of the “crisis” is dialogue and negotiations,”

Ukrops and their supporters of course interpret this as China vouching for the 30 day ceasefire.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | May 12 2025 11:25 utc | 227

Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 10:48 utc | 226
Russia has incorporated the four oblasts as part of Russia in its constitution. It will soon control the entire territories of the oblasts (Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson, about 15% of the territory of Ukraine).
Russia has repeatedly stated that these territories will remain part of Russia “forever”. Clearly, it will not negotiate them away.
That means that the territory of Ukraine has been reduced, Ukraine is smaller than before the conflict. That is the reality.
The issue raised by Roger and others is – recognition of the new reality.
Recognition is a POLITICAL, not legal matter. It is up to every state to decide if it will recognise the new reality.
Some states may recognise the changes sooner or later, probably later, and some may not do so in our lifetime.
If Ukraine were to accept the territorial changes and oofficially change of its borders, the issue would be resolved.
If Ukraine does not recognize the changes, a very awkward and complicated situation will pertain.

Posted by: JB | May 12 2025 11:34 utc | 228

Col Jacques Baud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPU8xMcceQ8
“What Russia really wants – and why the West doesn’t get it.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 12 2025 11:59 utc | 229

Israeli ally PKK lays down arms and voted for dissolution… will Erbil be free from Mossad … Türkiye leads in become a regional powerhouse and looks to cooperate with the 3 GCC states KSA-UAE-Qatar.
This week a NATO FM Summit in Istanbul and UA meets RF for taking away root causes of war … Türkiye is quite biased pro Ukraine sovereignty in respect to Crimea and the Tatars.

Posted by: Oui | May 12 2025 12:00 utc | 230

Think all in all, Russian people will get sick of the floundering as the whole rest of the world already is.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 11 2025 19:00 utc | 126
Maybe when u crush the doritoes next time put them on Mac and cheese instead of snorting them.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 12 2025 12:06 utc | 231

Norwegian | May 11 2025 15:30 utc | 50
*** 🇫🇷A couple of months ago, French Legislative Assembly member Borde accused Macron of using psychotropic drugs and said that he was “trying to drag the country into war while not in his right mind.”
Then the polite Europeans looked away in embarrassment.
And now, the proof is there- the Kiev-Paris train = COLOMBIA
Meanwhile, the Russian Foreign Ministry has already condemned the leaders of European states, calling them a “cocaine coalition” ***
Recall a few years ago evidence of considerable consumption of cocaine was discovered in toilets in the UK paliament building.
There’s also the separate (but related) fact of for instance Prime Minister Johnson and especially Chancellor Osborne being visibly off their heads on it while working.
MPs, Government Ministers and senior Civil Servants (ie. those decreeing continuity government agenda despite election results) in Whitehall are not subject to regular drug testing.
Instead, the public gets imposed austerity and perpetual wars, and is supposed to think these are unavoidable situations despite the efforts of “those who know best”.
No wonder the City fatcats, oligarchs and malign foreign interests can smile … they — plus the CIA drug supply network — thoroughly own and control such addicted administrative garbage.
A reflection of the long-decadent UK ruling class and NATO “values”.

Posted by: Cynic | May 12 2025 12:06 utc | 232

It is interesting that Zelensky is so frantically demanding a cease fire.
Not he behavior of someone having the upper hand.
Though likely it is simply an effort to delay – “time-out, while I reload.”

Posted by: jared | May 12 2025 12:26 utc | 233

@ Suresh | May 12 2025 4:13 utc | 204

Putin said “we’re at war….”

There is a war and there is the war. There is nothing new or inconsistent with President Putin’s phrasing.
Three years into the SMO, but the concept continues to elude some still.

Posted by: boneless | May 12 2025 12:27 utc | 234

Re: Posted by: JB | May 12 2025 11:34 utc | 228

Russia has incorporated the four oblasts as part of Russia in its constitution. It will soon control the entire territories of the oblasts (Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson, about 15% of the territory of Ukraine).
Russia has repeatedly stated that these territories will remain part of Russia “forever”. Clearly, it will not negotiate them away.
That means that the territory of Ukraine has been reduced, Ukraine is smaller than before the conflict. That is the reality.
The issue raised by Roger and others is – recognition of the new reality.
Recognition is a POLITICAL, not legal matter. It is up to every state to decide if it will recognise the new reality.
Some states may recognise the changes sooner or later, probably later, and some may not do so in our lifetime.
If Ukraine were to accept the territorial changes and oofficially change of its borders, the issue would be resolved.
If Ukraine does not recognize the changes, a very awkward and complicated situation will pertain.

Define soon – because they certainly don’t control all of these oblasts now and never have in this conflict.

Posted by: Julian | May 12 2025 12:32 utc | 235

Russia actively makes itself irrelevant by pursuing this war.
Look at Syria. Their one solid outpost beyond the post-Soviet world, lost because of their fixation with Ukraine.
At this point, its a sunk cost and diminishing returns. Russia isn’t going to ‘demilitarise’ or ‘denazify’ (whatever that means) Ukraine. They aren’t getting to Kyiv, they aren’t taking Kharkiv or Odesa, they’re not even gettinf Kherson.
Why are they still fighting?

Posted by: acur | May 12 2025 12:33 utc | 236

I suspect they already know that Russia will not / can not yield to this demand.
So they are already planning past the new sanctions.
I believe that Trump needs to be able to say that Ukraine is not seriously seeking peace while Russia is and this would justify reducing support in effort to force conclusion of this draining fiasco. Russia is trying to provide him with that justification. If he cannot or will not take that step, it will have to be done the old fashioned way.
It does seem to me that warfare has mutated and continues to do so – almost as war may become unwinnable.
I always felt there was a risk in Russia’s methodical approach.

Posted by: jared | May 12 2025 12:38 utc | 237

Posted by: acur | May 12 2025 12:33 utc | 236
Because they have a plan while you have only theories.

Posted by: Mario | May 12 2025 12:40 utc | 238

Posted by: Paco | May 12 2025 10:26 utc | 223
Bayer bought Monsanto in 2018, not BASF.
The paragraph as whole doesn’t make any sense, either.

Posted by: Neptune | May 12 2025 12:44 utc | 239

Sky News Blames Trump for Defeat of Anti-Russian Coalition
‘Britain, France, Germany, Poland and Ukraine thought they had Putin cornered with their demands for a ceasefire. They thought they had Trump’s backing until the US president made his move and sided with Putin, saying Ukraine should agree to talks proposed by the Russian leader.’

5 irrelevant “countries” with poodle regimes sinking further into irrelevancy due to sunk cost, because orange man bad told them to agree to peace. the whole circus.
why are they still doing this?

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2025 12:45 utc | 240

By the way both Russian military bases in Syria continue to operate.

Posted by: boneless | May 12 2025 12:48 utc | 241

🇺🇦💬 Speaker of Verkhovna Rada Stefanchuk advises Europeans to forget about their problems and focus on the war with Russia.

‘Let’s be honest. Only Russia and the war it has unleashed are the EU’s main problems. Friends, all other problems, political, economic, security, energy – all these are consequences. Their solution depends on whether we can put pressure on Russia. Not only Ukraine must stand, Europe must stand too’

he has a point. with nuances of course. first of all, it was not russia that “Unleashed” this war, but the problems are indeed connected to it. self mad in essence, due to their fullscale war of aggression on russia (note, russia has not attacked any nato nor eu country, though i wish they would get rid of the british isles (sans ireland)), and now due to sunk cost fallacy (or rather phallacy, as theyre all dicks) all those issues, political, economic, security, energy, cannot be solved without serious repercussions for the eu.
no wonder macron, starmer and merz had to snort cocaine to escape reality for a brief moment.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2025 12:53 utc | 242

@ Posted by: acur | May 12 2025 12:33 utc | 236
Russia behaves like a cat, which plays with it’s prey until it is time to eat.
They have been prepare the theater, is my understanding – in a way the limits loss of resources.
It is a bit of a cruel if wise play.
I do agree that it seems that Russia has had to re-assess it’s objectives.
Well, we shall see.
I think this this whole affair has been very enlightening – hope someone is writing it down.
I am coming to understand that books are interesting, because they capture a moment and perspective in time which if done properly, becomes more valuable as reference with age.

Posted by: jared | May 12 2025 13:00 utc | 243

Oh no!

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Andriy Sybiha: Russia is completely ignoring the proposal for a 30-day ceasefire.
The European Commission is discussing the introduction of sanctions against Nord Stream 2 if Russia does not agree to a ceasefire with Ukraine, said European Commission spokesperson Paula Pinho.
“Time is running out, we still have 10 hours left until the end of the day, and if there is no ceasefire by that time, the European side will begin preparing for sanctions,” said German government spokesman Stefan Cornelius at a press conference.

No more military equipment in the EU to threaten Russia with? Only sactions now? Sounds desperate.

Putin clearly and unambiguously outlined the position of resuming negotiations with Ukraine without preconditions. The language of ultimatums is unacceptable for Moscow – you can’t talk to Russia in such a language. (c) Peskov

Posted by: 5thcolumn | May 12 2025 13:01 utc | 244

Crude oil futures $63.28 this morning. Go Russia ! Keep that budget deficit down.
Reply to 240
My God, it’s difficult to imagine any rational explanation other than cocaine use. It’s just crazy.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 12 2025 13:01 utc | 245

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2025 12:53 utc | 242
Seems like they have gone from doing a few lines right onto hitting the rock. Why the fuck would it matter what demands Trump made or did not make to the Russian Federation. He is in no more of a position to make demands than Biden was and they ignored him just as easily as they would ignore Trump if he said some stupid shit.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 12 2025 13:01 utc | 246

Macron, Starmer and Merz are sending to Istanbul to negotiate with Vladimir Putin a comic actor with substance abuse.

Posted by: Passerby | May 12 2025 13:04 utc | 247

The European Commission is discussing the introduction of sanctions against Nord Stream 2 if Russia does not agree to a ceasefire with Ukraine, as stated EC spokesperson Paula Pinho.
The language of ultimatums cannot be used for dialogue with Russia, Peskov said, commenting on the threat of introducing new European sanctions against Russia if Moscow refuses to cease fire in Ukraine.

sanctioning a pipeline that is unused since that alleged boating incident.
THE. WHOLE. COCAINE. CIRCUS.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2025 13:12 utc | 248

The cocaine coalition of Kneeler, Macroléon and Merz von BlackRock are panicking because their supplies may be cut off.
Z: “You-a-demand-a CeaseFire! Then maybe you get more supplies . . .”

Posted by: John Marks | May 12 2025 13:19 utc | 249

The Poles have shut the Russian embassy in Krakow, stating (without any evidence) that Russia started a fire in a shopping centre a year ago.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 12 2025 13:38 utc | 250

As western politicians don’t fear WWIII, maybe a different threat…
In partnership with Venezuela, threaten to destroy all coke plantations in Colombia, etc
He who can destroy the spice, controls the spice

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2025 13:40 utc | 251

@ Posted by: 5thcolumn | May 12 2025 13:01 utc | 244
It almost makes me want to check the NY Times to know what kind of propaganda is being issued today.
I just read it for the comic section.

Posted by: jared | May 12 2025 13:44 utc | 252

Suresh@204…..talk talk, it’s one thing for Putin to say Russia is at war……does he have the time to attend a Military College and learn how wars are prosecuted…..maybe he has for gotten what was required to push Nazism out of Russia in the past, how many attacks, how many wars, before it dawns…..our Partners are great people….salt of the earth types….er, Salt the Earth types.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 12 2025 13:45 utc | 253

The Poles have shut the Russian embassy in Krakow, stating (without any evidence) that Russia started a fire in a shopping centre a year ago.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 12 2025 13:38 utc | 250

this is getting really pathetic now, isnt it? russia should close all “european” embassies and just allow one “eu” embassy, as all the europeans are subservient to the eu anyways.
(i know they wont do that for obvious reasons, but an old man can dream)

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2025 13:48 utc | 254

The Poles have shut the Russian embassy in Krakow, stating (without any evidence) that Russia started a fire in a shopping centre a year ago.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 12 2025 13:38 utc | 250
this is getting really pathetic now, isnt it? russia should close all “european” embassies and just allow one “eu” embassy, as all the europeans are subservient to the eu anyways.
(i know they wont do that for obvious reasons, but an old man can dream)
Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2025 13:48 utc | 254
Embassies provide support to citizens and a home away from home for those doing that support.

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2025 13:58 utc | 255

Justpassinby@…..pathetic, no. Highly amusing how many times can someone rub your face in their shit before one says, enough…..er, Oh shit, we are at war…..highly amusing, even in the event we all go poof, hilarious it’s at this stage.
I have it on good authority that Putin has now started a war…..three years into the SMO, it’s finally blossomed into a glorious negotiated war. It always was a negotiated war, otherwise how does Russia do record trade with the EU enemies, even supplying fuel…..fuck, if that doesn’t get you slappin’ yer knee, this will….you can still travel from Europe to Kiev by train….pass the smelling salts, to much laughter going on…..who negotiates with a Cocaine Coalition?
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 12 2025 14:02 utc | 256

@242
The solution for the EU is to colonize Russia same as in 1940.

Posted by: paddy | May 12 2025 14:08 utc | 257

No one knew what Ukraine was 3 years ago, now they are known as the though mdfkers that fucked russia up to north korean levels.

Posted by: Evil Sohel | May 12 2025 14:39 utc | 258

“RUAF Capture 30SQKM | AFU Recapture Toretsk Industrial Outpost”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSh0M0_6psg (length: 12 minutes)

Posted by: WMG | May 12 2025 14:52 utc | 259

I think Russia will keep the pressure high on the frontline between say Zaporizhia and Kharkov and pin down the ukrainian army. While at the same time Russia will/could open 2 new fronts. 1) in the south near Kherson (crossing the Dnipre river) 2) begin an offensive from say north of Kharkov from say Sumy towards Kiev.

Posted by: WMG | May 12 2025 14:57 utc | 260

You do know the way you generate nicknames makes you stand out, you nincompoop. So lazy.

Posted by: boneless | May 12 2025 14:57 utc | 261

Posted by: jared | May 12 2025 13:00 utc | 243
RE: books are interesting, because they capture a moment & perspective in time
“hope someone is writing it down”
<< *We* are writing it down, jared

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 12 2025 15:01 utc | 262

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/164501

IMPORTANT • The skies over the Kapustin Yar test site have been temporarily closed for testing the new missile defense system, and not for launching the Oreshnik, Colonel Nakhushev reported.
The Oreshnik launchers have already been deployed in other areas, and several dozen missiles are ready.
The decision on the actual use has not yet been made, if a decision is made to use Oreshnik, then the sky will not be blocked.
The Americans believe that the warheads are equipped with six homing submunitions – high-explosive and cluster.
@rezervsvo

Posted by: boneless | May 12 2025 15:03 utc | 263

Trump thinks Putin and Zelensky will be in Istanbul on Thursday. And that he might be there as well.
Someone take the crack pipe away from him.

Posted by: Night Tripper | May 12 2025 15:04 utc | 264

Why taking a village by the border (RF was parked just outside for a while) gives a go for Pokrovsk?
Beats me…
https://tass.com/politics/1956677
Russian army to start battles for Krasnoarmeysk after seizure of Kotlyarovka — expert
Since 2014, Ukrainian troops have built “a large number of fortifications” in Krasnoarmeysk, Andrey Marochko noted
LUGANSK, May 12. /TASS/. The Russian army’s seizure of Kotlyarovka enables it to start battles for liberating Krasnoarmeysk (called Pokrovsk by Ukraine) in the Donetsk People’s Republic, military expert Andrey Marochko told TASS on Monday.

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2025 15:12 utc | 265

What is the plausibility that the dust-up with India/Pakistan was set-up to give Modi reason to not attend the ceremony in Moscow?

Posted by: jared | May 12 2025 15:19 utc | 266

@ #266
That would’ve been a huge-stakes gamble against a nuclear armend neighbour, just to avoid some inconvenience. The lasting fallout from this clash is however the still suspended water treaty, which is Pakistan’s lifeline. This fight isn’t over by far.

Posted by: Chrisssie | May 12 2025 15:28 utc | 267

It raises an awkward but important question: how long can a state claim land as its own, by constitutional decree, while failing to actually control it?
Posted by: Roger | May 12 2025 7:29 utc | 214

There are several examples:
*China considers Taiwan a part of PR China despite having no control since some time ago. Well, Taiwan doesn’t consider themselves independent – they just had a different opinion about who should rule combined China.
*Guantanamo Bay is part of Cuba. Cuba may get it back once upon a time, may be with some help from friends. The US doesn’t consider Guantanamo as US territory, which allows them to run their Konzentrationslager there, not disturbed by US law.
*Back to China – Hong Kong was 99 years under UK control, still formally part of China. Well, China got it back, still not in a hurry and allowing Hong Kong even to drive on the wrong side of roads … Similar situation with Macau and Portugal.
As you see, even 100 years isn’t a problem

Posted by: BG13 | May 12 2025 15:34 utc | 268

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2025 13:40 utc | 251
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That was good for a laugh, thank you.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 12 2025 15:39 utc | 269

Posted by: Night Tripper | May 12 2025 15:04 utc | 263
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There are still many people at MoA that believe Trump when he says things.
The Russians do not.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 12 2025 15:43 utc | 270

Biggest story of the minute . . . Macron Kiev coke train!
Why does it matter? —Because there are no coincidences.

Posted by: Nothingburgers | May 12 2025 15:48 utc | 271

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2025 13:40 utc | 251
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That was good for a laugh, thank you.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 12 2025 15:39 utc | 270
Maybe it could work…
Meanwhile let’s see how fast toretsk will be…

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2025 16:12 utc | 272

🇺🇸🤡Trump on a possible meeting between Putin and Zelensky:
I insisted that this meeting take place, and it will take place. I think something good can come out of the meeting in Turkey on Thursday between Russia and Ukraine. As I understand it, both leaders are going to be there. I was thinking of flying there.
I don’t know where I’ll be on Thursday – I have so many meetings – but I’ve really thought about going. I think it’s a possibility if it feels like something could happen. But we need to get results. We need to save 5,000 lives a week. 5,000 lives a week. More than that, actually.

the bolded part is funny. will it?

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 12 2025 16:41 utc | 273

@ BG13 | May 12 2025 15:34 utc | 269
Amplifying your comment: Until 2002 Taiwan claimed not only the entire territory of the PRC but (Outer) Mongolia and the Tuva Republic of Russia as well.

Posted by: malenkov | May 12 2025 16:54 utc | 274

@ malenkov, §275:
Taiwan also claimed Outer Manchuria, seized by Russia during China´s “century of humiliation” (1839-1939).
That included Vladivostok (Haishenwei)!

Posted by: John Marks | May 12 2025 17:33 utc | 275

“Biggest story of the minute . . . Macron Kiev coke train!
Why does it matter? —Because there are no coincidences.
Posted by: Nothingburgers”
you got that right. Limited roll out domestically online, BUT the AP, Reuters and quite a few others used the incriminating frame as the featured photo while not discussing the ramifications.
This was an op, however originated/instigated.
Revealing.
they have some top notch publicity operatives in place.

Posted by: Not Ewe | May 12 2025 17:43 utc | 276

Would VVP come in person in Istanbul, supposing the meeting will be held?
How to trust the snake Erdogan? He could as well honour the arrest warrant of the ICJ…

Posted by: scc | May 12 2025 17:52 utc | 277

@ scc | May 12 2025 17:52 utc | 278
Why would anyone assume a leader would show up for negotiations? That’s what diplomats are for. Leaders meet when everything is already agreed upon.

Posted by: boneless | May 12 2025 18:06 utc | 278

@ scc | May 12 2025 17:52 utc | 278
Why would anyone assume a leader would show up for negotiations? That’s what diplomats are for. Leaders meet when everything is already agreed upon.
Posted by: boneless | May 12 2025 18:06 utc | 279
I’m taking bets on the kiev envoy surviving…

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2025 18:21 utc | 279

“Biggest story of the minute . . . Macron Kiev coke train!
Extended version 🙂
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/164486

Posted by: Norwegian | May 12 2025 18:22 utc | 280

Extremely unexpected.
🇩🇪🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 Germany will no longer publicly discuss the possible delivery of Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine. The new German government says the effectiveness of these missiles is “significantly overestimated”
— Euractiv .

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/152338

Posted by: Norwegian | May 12 2025 18:28 utc | 281

Weirdly, Christoforou claims that DJT “opted to align w/ the European leaders & Zelensky” in Project Ukraine, as if that were some kind of cliff-hanging revelation-?
The U.S.-led West has elaborately prepared Ukraine, over many decades, in order to goad Russia into commencing a hot war. DJT was part of that. Think: big beautiful Javelins, baby.
DJT is yet another president in a long line of American presidents who have participated in prepping Ukraine as bait for goading Russia into a hot war.
Now Christoforou believes VVP is offering DJT an “off-ramp” w/ the direct negotiations between Russian diplomats and Ukrainian diplomats in Istanbul (a resumption of the talks from 2022, w/ new territorial changes tossed in.)
The “off-ramp” Christoforou sees lies in the fact that Ukraine will *not* show up for the Istanbul talks, thereby irritating DJT and giving him a reason to “walk away”-?!
This sounds like a delusional ‘reach’ peppered w/ cope.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 12 2025 18:33 utc | 282

Extremely unexpected.
🇩🇪🏴‍☠️🇺🇦 Germany will no longer publicly discuss the possible delivery of Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine. The new German government says the effectiveness of these missiles is “significantly overestimated”
— Euractiv .
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/152338
Posted by: Norwegian | May 12 2025 18:28 utc | 282
Bizarre, the “count empty” would be a gamechanger for bridges /buildings

Posted by: Newbie | May 12 2025 18:39 utc | 283

*****Republicofscotland @250 et al *****
Fyi- The Russian Embassy is in Warsaw. It was the Consulate in Krakow that was closed because of sabotage threat. Like the Consulate in Posen was closed in 2024 for same reason.

Posted by: Jerr | May 12 2025 18:45 utc | 284

*****Republicofscotland @250 et al *****
Fyi- The Russian Embassy is in Warsaw. It was the Consulate in Krakow that was closed because of sabotage threat. Like the Consulate in Posen was closed in 2024 for same reason.

Posted by: Jerr | May 12 2025 18:47 utc | 285

Posted by: rk | May 12 2025 6:40 utc | 211

……………………..
Also if Putin negotiates with Zeli it means he considers Zeli legitimate and will cancel all previous statements that he is not. Will the government approve such deal? Because it would mean they have accepted twice the result of a coup in Ukr so they can’t say Nato is evil anymore, they approved each step by unanimous vote.
It is possible a 30 day ceasefire will make Turkey open the gates for visitors. Odessa can have new owners with rights for permanent deployment in Black Sea a month later.

typically mendacious claims !!!
putin said that ukr can send whoever it wants, but Zelensky CANNOT sign binding agreements !!!
29.01.2025 — Full Putin interview on Zelensky negotiations
–> https://www.bitchute.com/video/pZtTi837VDuy
————————————————–
28.01.2025
https://en.vijesti.me/world-a/evropa/743017/Putin-called-Zelensky-illegitimate%2C-you-can-negotiate-with-anyone%2C-but-he-has-no-right-to-sign-anything
“You can negotiate with anyone, but because of his illegitimacy, he (Zelensky) has no right to sign anything,” Putin told state-run Rossiya 1 TV late on the evening of January 28.

Posted by: ghiwen | May 12 2025 19:03 utc | 286

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 11 2025 20:17 utc | 146
Zelensky is expected to travel to Turkey this Thursday, regardless of whether Moscow agrees to the proposed ceasefire on May 12. The strategy appears to be more about optics than substance: Zelensky will reportedly refuse to engage in direct talks with the Russian delegation unless Vladimir Putin himself attends the discussions in Istanbul.
What is it no one sees here: This is a trap.
Trump breaking his neck doing everything to have Putin there in person. Calling Erdogan the 5th May, before Putin announced it.
Macron,Starmer,Mertz in Kiev this weekend.
Rubio In Istanbul for a Nato-meeting 14-16 May.
Erdogan is Erdogan. Nato. (how much power have the 3 letters there?) And he may not even have things under his control.(happened before)
There is S400 there, also nuclear weapons.
Nato, From to the south + Romanian forces.
Israel is not that happy with Turkey right now, what I know of.
(a win win too)
Putin cancelled, Xi och China, Brics, seriously weakened!
ICC. Duterte from the Philippines comes to my mind.
Desperation in the West:
How can one stroke change the scen? How was it with Syria now again.
What not to win.
Don´t try to fool me with that they not dare to do this, they do.

Posted by: 2C | May 12 2025 21:29 utc | 287

Posted by: boneless | May 12 2025 15:03 utc | 263
“The Americans believe that the warheads are equipped with six homing submunitions – high-explosive and cluster.”
@rezervsvo
The Americans may say they believe the above, but I doubt it.
The (36) warheads delivered to Yarezmesh last year appear to have been far ore potent and destructive than conventional HE are capable of.
We can all speculate, but unless RF high explosives have developed very far than the scientific limitations dictated by the laws of chemistry and (normal) physics I advise on waiting more definite accurate information.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 13 2025 0:25 utc | 288

Suresh ( May 12 2025 4:13 utc | 204 ).
Hmm.
At one point early to midway during the press conference I actually thought he was going to declare outright war on Ukraine but then a while later came the suggestion about a meeting in Turkey instead.
Maybe you’re picking up an undercurrent, maybe I did too, or maybe the impression that something like might be close is a mistake.
If Russia declares actual war it will be extremely clear and public, if nothing else for the internal legal reasons which would be the whole point of doing so in the first place as they remove all kinds of restrictions. It is also afaik not something any one person simply decides on their own or announces without a number of other people like parliamentarians and spokespeople and maybe many more of those involved also making announcements.
We won’t need to guess 🙂 (unless the first thing we see is a double flash without having heard any news).

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 13 2025 1:12 utc | 289

Venezuelan President Maduro – tells it like it is.
“Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has condemned the leaders of France, Britain, and Germany for marking Victory Day in Kiev, which he described as “the world capital of Nazism and fascism.”
Maduro’s remarks came after he returned from Russia, where he took part in the celebrations of the 80th anniversary of victory over Nazi Germany on May 9 and signed a strategic cooperation treaty between Moscow and Caracas.
The parade on Red Square in Moscow and other commemorative events “acquired great significance because today there is a revival of Nazism and fascism,” the Venezuelan president said during his Con Maduro+ television program on Monday.
Kiev has become “the world capital of Nazism and fascism, where a pro-Nazi government rules,” he added.
Vladimir Zelensky’s government is “a protector of the Nazi currents, it exterminates the people of Ukraine and the peoples of the [former] Soviet Union,” ”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 13 2025 9:40 utc | 290

The Lie That Shot Down MH17
https://x.com/bears_with/status/1922189044282253336
“War allies against Russia shoot down ICAO Convention Art 3, rig yesterday’s vote by closing ICAO Council meeting; keeping text of resolution ‘restricted’; concealing votes for/against…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 13 2025 12:41 utc | 291

They are trying to suck trump into signing off on a sanctions package that will suck him into the quagmire for goods. If he signs off on this package the neo cons/europeans/ukrainians will have got him to own this war fully.

Posted by: Mapstr | May 13 2025 14:40 utc | 292

Test

Posted by: Orson Cart | May 14 2025 2:45 utc | 293

Success!

Posted by: Orson Cart | May 14 2025 2:46 utc | 294

go for a hat trick and say something, lol..

Posted by: james | May 14 2025 2:48 utc | 295

Military summary, Donbass update.
-RUAF took Bogatyr, Oradne, small village west of it about to fall opening path for further move west
-Komar next on the list, which opens a large operational space to the west
-Improve position between Novoandreevka and Novosergeevka (WSW of Pokrovsk)
-AFU bomb empty buildings in Muravka in act of desperation to slow down the collapse of WSW Pokrovsk front
-RUAF improve its flank in the SW part of Pokrovsk, to prevent any future AFU attacks out of the city
-RUAF poised to tighten control west and north-west of Pokrovsk, north of Kotlyne, after previous move of neutering the city itself as an attack platform
-RUAF Took Myrolubivka, another important stronghold east of Pokrovsk, o
-Strong possibility RUAF has also taken Malynivka, east along the highway from Pokrovsk
-The AFU flanks around Pokrovsk have all but collapsed, further move to isolate the city and forces in it
-RUAF preparing to attack Rodyve, a town north of Pokrovsk from two sides – big cauldron of Pokrovsk forming
-RUAF forming multiple pockets for AFU at the same time around Pokrovsk, Konstantinovka, Seversk and Lyman to test whether AFU has enough forces to hold the flanks around these settlements at the same time
-The front north and NE of Lyman for AFU is also crumbling, prepositioning RUAF to attack Lyman from both E, NE and N (i.e. the rear)

Posted by: unimperator | May 14 2025 2:50 utc | 296

The vast majority of Azov battalion were also Donbas locals. But most Donbas locals were neither, they were civilians. It is true that most people in Donbas din’t recognize Euromaidan and wanted to improve relations with Russia over the west. But secession was a fringe idea, most people didn’t want to separate, they wanted to be left alone. They definitely didn’t want a full scale war. Russia never intended to assist “the people of Donbas”, only a certain small group of those people who were vessels of Russian interests. And the rest of the people of Donbas only suffered from it. This intervention turned the most prosperous region of Ukraine into ruins.

Posted by: Own Possibility | May 14 2025 13:02 utc | 297

Own Possibility | May 14 2025 13:02 utc | 298 ….
Your post is about as stupid and self-contradicting as could be. People being terrorised, beaten up and threatened in all ways by agents of the Maidan/Kiev regime were denied any choice of being “left alone”.
As ethnic Russians, or pro-Russians, their death or forced removal was a top item in the (NATO backed) Kiev regime’s agenda.
Any criticism should be directed at the Putin government for not helping the Donbas forces enough — even impeding them? — in their defensive actions against the Kiev regime’s army and (at that time) irregular but very much approved nazi militias on the payroll of zionist mafia Oligarchs.
Interesting that Strelkov is still imprisoned by the Atlanticist regime in Moscow.

Posted by: Cynic | May 14 2025 13:41 utc | 298

The entire thing is a smart play by Ukraine and EU to fool Trump and put him in a corner
By showing that Putin isn’t willing to be present at peace talks with Zelensky he is signalling to Trump that Putin isn’t serious with peace talks and that he’s an obstruction to end the war
When Trump is convinced that Putin is an obstruction to end the war he will put more tariffs and sanctions on Russia than Biden ever did and massively scale the amount of aid that Ukraine is given.
The difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump doesn’t let anything get in his way. If he believes that Russia is an obstruction to end the war in peace it will be a very big trouble for Russia
Interesting to see what’s next. Putins team must be under pressure now

Posted by: Fit Rice | May 14 2025 13:44 utc | 299

Just makes Russia look weak as usual, another reason the west has zero respect for him. Too afraid to leave his bunker, only comes out in public when he has human shield Xi next to him. Won’t negotiate for his own people. And for years he’s been screaming about a promise made to Russians like a jaded schoolgirl. ‘But you promised you wouldn’t expand!!!!’ Its pathetic. Get it in writing like any other competent leader would.

Posted by: Greg the Hamster | May 14 2025 13:50 utc | 300