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May 11, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-102

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Looks like America has crushed the BRICS alliance. In another thread, I mentioned China has agreed to a trade agreement with the US and now Putin seems willing to grovel to Trump for a ceasefire deal. Proof that America is still the world’s lone superpower and all other nations are regional powers at best.

Posted by: bored | May 11 2025 17:58 utc | 101

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 11 2025 17:52 utc | 98
Fuck off liar!

Posted by: Naive | May 11 2025 18:00 utc | 102

( not even close-! )
As in DJT’s 2nd Truth Social post: “…Putin, who’s too busy celebrating the Victory of World War II, which could not have been won (not even close-!) without the United States of America.”
The grandstanding impetus to dunk on VVP, the Red Army, Soviet history and the Great Patriotic War is indicative of a unique stripe of venality, as fronted by DJT.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 18:00 utc | 103

That is old. Later the actor said he’s going to be in Turkey waiting for Putin
Posted by: rk | May 11 2025 17:55 utc | 99

You are absolutely correct, and that’s further confirmation that Z is terrified.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 11 2025 18:00 utc | 104

@98
Pikey, how about planting yourself. Preferably six foot under to discourage sprouting.

Posted by: AleaJactaEst | May 11 2025 18:01 utc | 105

Actually, he said that he expects a complete ceasefire starting tomorrow AND that he’ll be waiting for Putin in Turkey. So he might not be in Turkey if the other does not happen.
RIA asked Turkey and they don’t know anything about these new plans.

Posted by: rk | May 11 2025 18:01 utc | 106

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | May 11 2025 17:56 utc | 100
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I hope the SMO goes on until the end of the year. Like Kursk, bleed out the West of officers and air defenses.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 18:05 utc | 107

Posted by: bored | May 11 2025 17:58 utc | 101
Only in your dreams, yankee troll!
Trump is fucked, his approval rate is falling everywhere. Ceasefire will not happen. At least not before denazification and demilitarisation of Ukraine.

Posted by: Naive | May 11 2025 18:05 utc | 108

That is old. Later the actor said he’s going to be in Turkey waiting for Putin
Posted by: rk | May 11 2025 17:55 utc | 99

Putin will not go to Istanbul. The ppp can wait all he wants.

Posted by: Naive | May 11 2025 18:07 utc | 109

I mentioned China has agreed to a trade agreement with the US and now Putin seems willing to grovel to Trump for a ceasefire deal.
Posted by: bored | May 11 2025 17:58 utc | 101
then why they have not made public the details of this “deal”?
Let’s see what the deal is about first. I suspect Camacho will censor most information to simulate victory but in reality he’ll cancel most of his own tariffs or compensate them by other means. The real Art of the Deal is to make local idiots buy your memecoins like religious fanatics, pump and dump

Posted by: rk | May 11 2025 18:12 utc | 110

I hope the SMO goes on until the end of the year. Like Kursk, bleed out the West of officers and air defenses.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 18:05 utc | 107

I wouldn’t be surprised to see AFU collapse before then, and stripping Patriots from Germany to put into Ukraine — where they’re unlikely to last a month — shows they’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel with AD.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 11 2025 18:12 utc | 111

I see the fleas have arrived, while others go off topic.
Again, no Western “leader” has told Zelensky publicly he must rescind his no negotiations edict. Some have said if Zelensky does that he’s a dead man. But the act would be done, and no president will be there to repeat the edict. And if Zelensky’s killed because of that, I’d expect the Nazis to fully takeover and the conflict to continue since they will not negotiate as they exist to kill Russians.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2025 18:16 utc | 112

Of interest? Russia has issued a temporary closure of airspace over its Kapustin Yar missile test range …
https://defence-blog.com/russia-readies-launch-of-long-range-ballistic-missile/

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | May 11 2025 18:18 utc | 113

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 18:05 utc
The SMO will go on. Even after an unconditional surrender there is the task of denazification, and the terrorism linked to it.
As the seasons change, there will be no more skiing accidents, but climbing accidents…
As the Russian MoD announces the liberation of towns and villages in Sumy/Kharkov, I’m looking forward for votes in liberated oblasts to join Russia.

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | May 11 2025 18:19 utc | 114

Posted by: bored | May 11 2025 17:58 utc | 101
That’s a false rumor being spread by the liar Trump.
China has denied any agreement has been reached.
You’ve been duped by the liar!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 11 2025 18:20 utc | 115

@Ghost of Zanon | May 11 2025 18:20 utc | 115
Well true, Trump speaks a lot. But it’s also on the White House website:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/u-s-announces-china-trade-deal-in-geneva/

Posted by: NoName | May 11 2025 18:22 utc | 116

Looks like America has crushed the BRICS alliance….I mentioned China has agreed to a trade agreement with the US and now Putin seems willing to grovel to Trump for a ceasefire deal.
Posted by: bored | May 11 2025 17:58 utc | 101
China play a long game. Unless the US can rebuild its manufacturing and productivity the trends are clear.
Far Eastern countries go for productivity uber alles, the West goes for short term profit.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 11 2025 18:25 utc | 117

Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2025 18:16 utc | 112
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Friend, nothing has changed. This will have to be won on the battlefield.
The entire West remains “agreement incapable”.
All of these Western announcements, like the announcement of an American trade deal with China, are just noise for media consumption.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 18:35 utc | 118

Posted by: NoName | May 11 2025 18:22 utc | 116
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Do you have any idea how trivial it is to post something on a website?
The White House website has published thousands of lies. It’s not an “authority”. As soon as the administration changes, hundreds of webpages get deleted.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 18:37 utc | 119

Looks like China has crushed the US….I mentioned US has agreed to a trade agreement with China and now Trump seems willing to grovel to Putin for a ceasefire deal.
Posted by: bored | May 11 2025 17:58 utc | 101

The correct perspective.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 11 2025 18:39 utc | 120

@NoName | May 11 2025 18:22 utc | 116
Bessent says “bilateral duties are too high, they need to be reduced as part of efforts to de-escalate trade tensions”
Translation: the tariffs WE created are too high for US so WE can’t wait any longer for Xi to call because our butt hurts badly. But we definitely won this war and Trump will say so on his own social media site as soon as he finishes his potato

Posted by: rk | May 11 2025 18:47 utc | 121

I think Putin should just talk to the guys and continue hammering Ukraine.
If he falls for their trickery, he only has himself to blame.
Fool me once, fool me twice.

Posted by: g wiltek | May 11 2025 18:48 utc | 122

Well true, Trump speaks a lot. But it’s also on the White House website:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/u-s-announces-china-trade-deal-in-geneva/
Posted by: NoName | May 11 2025 18:22 utc | 116

From the link:
“We will be giving details tomorrow, but I can tell you that the talks were productive. ”
Hold your breath, kids…

Posted by: ChatNPC | May 11 2025 18:50 utc | 123

https://www.turkiyetoday.com/world/russia-alleges-macron-merz-and-starmer-had-cocaine-party-in-kyiv-in-a-veiled-statemen-3201276
Did Zacharova refer to this cocaine story ????? If so, wow.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 11 2025 18:54 utc | 124

Quoted by ChatNPC @123: “We will be giving details tomorrow, but I can tell you that the talks were productive. “
Yeah, I was just on the toilet. That was “productive” too.
Sinophobes should wait until they find out what “productive” means in this context and be prepared to be disappointed.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 11 2025 18:58 utc | 125

Putin’s “call out” backfired.
What a waste of time.
Putin’s “negotiations” with Zelensky are as bad as Nuttyahoo’s and Hamas, a go nowhere optics game.
All it does is confuse military on the ground.
Should we fire? Should we advance? Will there be new orders today?
Let alone the Russian people.
Think all in all, Russian people will get sick of the floundering as the whole rest of the world already is.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 11 2025 19:00 utc | 126

Think all in all, Russian people will get sick of the floundering as the whole rest of the world already is.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 11 2025 19:00 utc | 126

The only “floundering” is in your logic. Putin is unwavering. The RF knows that and the Russian people know that, but of course they’re not constantly subject to the floundering Western media.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 11 2025 19:05 utc | 127

Ukraine I know it like the back of my hand playing back in the USSR backwards to expose the beatles as communinst. The people that wrote the tax men song where socialists. If you contrast them with the Rolling Stones they are. No beatles album tops Exile on Main Street recorded in France due to taxes.
So dont Nixon me with a puppy.

Posted by: steve | May 11 2025 19:12 utc | 128

Trump said:

    “President Putin of Russia doesn’t want to have a Cease Fire Agreement with Ukraine, but rather wants to meet on Thursday, in Turkey, to negotiate a possible end to the BLOODBATH.
    “Ukraine should agree to this, IMMEDIATELY.”

Putin yesterday proposed holding direct peace talks with Ukraine after getting an ultimatum to agree to a temporary ceasefire. He proposed to hold direct talks with Ukraine in Turkey on May 15.
The Russian president said: “It was not Russia that broke off negotiations in March/April 2022. It was Kyiv.
Zelensky bows to proposal …

Zelensky”>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-putin-ukraine-russia-war-b2748854.html”>Zelensky agrees to Putin-proposed meeting in Turkey after Trump demands they negotiate end of war | The Independent |

[…]
Putin’s proposal came hours after major European powers demanded on Saturday in Kyiv that Putin agree to an unconditional 30-day ceasefire or face “massive” new sanctions.
The Russian leader dismissed what he said was the attempt by some European powers to lay down “ultimatums.”

Time to seek a new post for envoy Keith Kellogg … the #Mark and #Volodymyr whisperer 😊

Posted by: Oui | May 11 2025 19:15 utc | 129

Does PM Goldman Sachs Know Anything About The Iraq War?
https://x.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1921500199618228440
“Only a fool would think that ‘coalition of the willing’ – a term coined by George Bush for the armies that waged a criminal war of aggression on Iraq – is a clever way to describe the pro-Ukraine coalition…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 11 2025 19:16 utc | 130

’Zelensky Challenges Putin for Direct Talks’
Dutch National Media already put a spin on the developments of this weekend …
WARNING DISINFO or just PLAIN LIES by NATO ALLIES
Zelensky challenges Putin and wants to meet him in Istanbul | NOS – 1 hr ago |
Losing the plot once again …
Ludicrous and so damn stupid folks.

Posted by: Oui | May 11 2025 19:20 utc | 132

You want to negotiate with Ukrainians? This is how Ukes negotiate:
https://x.com/atutruckers/status/1920187966778974670
I Lve in a goddam Ukrainian community. They do this shit constantly and never stop bleating about how superior they are.
Fake country fake language fake culture. Time to extinguish and be done

Posted by: oldhippie | May 11 2025 19:23 utc | 133

Do you have any idea how trivial it is to post something on a website?
The White House website has published thousands of lies. It’s not an “authority”. As soon as the administration changes, hundreds of webpages get deleted.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 18:37 utc | 119
I see a difference between “Trump says something” and an official website (which isn’t run by Trump himself).
If it was just Trump who said “there is a deal” I would have taken that message with a huge grain of salt. But when it is on the White house website I take it a little bit more seriously. That’s all.

Posted by: NoName | May 11 2025 19:24 utc | 134

You want to negotiate with Ukrainians? This is how Ukes negotiate:
https://x.com/atutruckers/status/1920187966778974670
I Lve in a goddam Ukrainian community. They do this shit constantly and never stop bleating about how superior they are.
Fake country fake language fake culture. Time to extinguish and be done

Posted by: oldhippie | May 11 2025 19:27 utc | 135

– Russia has crossed the Dnipre river near Burgunka (near Kherson) in the very south of the Ukraine (????????)
Source: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZyXkNFhVHS4 (length: 53 seconds) Is this a credible source ?
Daniel Davis (Daniel’s Deep Dive) also mentioned that “Russia has crossed the Dnipre river” in thhis video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e-AljL-AZM (length: 6 minutes)
Mrs. Von der Leyen certainly looks worried/tired at the start of the video. Is she aware of the REAL situation in the Ukraine and is not willing to tell us ? Is the news that bad for the EU ?)
Daniel Davis notes that the Ukraine has spread its forces thin and in some places there are hardly any ukrainian troops. The Ukraine has no troops in a number of places on the frontline. I assume that Russia is very well aware where those “weak spots” with no or hardly any ukrainian troops. When in some places russian troops have a break through the last defensive lines then the Ukraine has no defensive lines any more.
When I combine this with the fact that Russia has established a “Northefn Command” (NC) then I think that that NC will / could make a push towards the city of Kiev (this is why there is a separate “Northern Command” to execute independently military operations in the north (towards Kiev ???) Also from Belarus ?????
These (upcoming (????)) russian offensives could be the reason why that one russian source (https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation.htm ) has disappeared from the internet. I assume that Russia wanted/wants to provide as little information as possible to the enemy. Was this an independent source or was it always controlled by Russia ? The disappearance of this website seems to suggest that Russia took it down.
(as always LOTS OF questions / speculations and very few good answers)
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Quote from another thread / topic here on this blog (in bold talics):
Does anyone else have problems reaching https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation.htm?
I can’t get eng.mil.ru or even mil.ru even though I tried through a bunch of international proxies. Anyone else has the problem or solved it?
Posted by: b | May 8 2025 13:33 utc | 1

Posted by: WMG | May 11 2025 19:29 utc | 136

RE: Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 11 2025 19:05 utc | 127
“Unwavering”…isn’t this the sane Putin that stated he would not sign anything with this illegitimate governance?
You do know, Zelensky is expecting a face-to face meeting with Putin? Something he has begged for for 3 years..
Suppose it all goes swimmingly, someone will have to sign something eventually, and it will all be illegitimate and challenged as such later down the line.
Nah, Putin’s an attorney, he knows all this. It’s an optics only game, and even if his “people” “get it”, doesn’t mean they’ll go along with this shit game indefinitely.
The General’s are “sure, 30 day energy truce”, “sure 3 day ceasefire for Vet day” “sure, hold the line and let our troops get fired on and die”
Yeah, this “Command in Chief” is a military man’s nightmare… and won’t remain indefinitely supported.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 11 2025 19:35 utc | 137

Putin Proposes Unconditional Peace Talks With Ukraine
https://www.rt.com/russia/617381-putin-ukraine-peace-talks/
“Full speech.”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 11 2025 19:52 utc | 138

Posted by: Oui | May 11 2025 19:20 utc | 132
The lying BBC have done the same with:
“Zelensky challenges Putin to meet him after Trump demands Ukraine-Russia talks
“I will be waiting for Putin in Türkiye on Thursday. Personally,” the Ukrainian leader writes after Trump urged him to “have the meeting, now!”

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 11 2025 19:52 utc | 139

Posted by: rk | May 11 2025 18:12 utc | 110
For once we’re in complete agreement!
Hit the mute button on the “Great Prevaricator” and your life will improve.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 11 2025 20:04 utc | 140

It’s almost like they want to get caught, arrogant prep school boys toying with “danger” all the while knowing there will be no real repercussions. Joke’s on the world’s powerless great unwashed – hah hah hah, have another line Keir my dear …
Could have been uglier, the photog could have arrived a bit earlier catching Starmer, Macron, and Merz in a Lucky Pierre.
If nothing else Nazis are all about tradition, if you are going to resurrect the Third Reich might as well include all the decadent fun and games, best way to kill millions is to be zonked out of your skull on a power trip, at the start, anyways. Wonder what the Doggy Downer of choice will be towards the end of the Fourth Reich?
Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich by Norman Ohler
Puppy Uppers

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | May 11 2025 20:09 utc | 141

zelenskiyjji says he is going to face putin directly in turkey if a ceasefire comes first.
way to chicken out. petty and pathetic.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 11 2025 20:13 utc | 142

The latest is Z is going to Istanbul on Thursday even with no ceasefire in place……
Looking for confirmation but that’s what being reported now

Posted by: Night Tripper | May 11 2025 20:14 utc | 143

The west has just won.

Posted by: vsrgas | May 11 2025 20:16 utc | 144

If the Ukranians agree to negotiate in Istanbul Putin/Russia has brought Ukraine back to the table they left in 2022 minus 4 Oblasts at least, a pretty big win for the Russians.
Unless the AFU is seriously depleted/collapsing in Ukraine I doubt they will show up. The act of negotiating with the Russians will set off an internal shit storm in Ukraine.

Posted by: silverfoxes | May 11 2025 20:16 utc | 145

Looking for confirmation but that’s what being reported now
Posted by: Night Tripper | May 11 2025 20:14 utc | 143

you may be right, at least thats how yermak is now putting it?

🇺🇦 Ukrainian Channel RezidentUA writes:
According to a source within the Office of the President of Ukraine, Andriy Yermak has devised a new diplomatic maneuver aimed at regaining control over the stalled negotiation process.
Zelensky is expected to travel to Turkey this Thursday, regardless of whether Moscow agrees to the proposed ceasefire on May 12. The strategy appears to be more about optics than substance: Zelensky will reportedly refuse to engage in direct talks with the Russian delegation unless Vladimir Putin himself attends the discussions in Istanbul.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 11 2025 20:17 utc | 146

im going to look into my wifes crystal ball and say:
on thursday, zelenskiyjjyi and his western handlers (along with the cokeheads macron, starmer and merz) will claim that:
putin weak, afraid, old, cancerous, to come to face the brave, strong, alive, healthy, not-cocaine addicted zelenskiyjyiyyjyjyji.
bored, vargas, rk and the ilk will swallow it (good boys) and claim victory for nato or something on this very bar.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 11 2025 20:21 utc | 147

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/11/bessent-productive-talks-china-00340872
There is no agreement – just “agreement to have a platform for further talks.”
MORE TRUMP BS! LYING IS HIS M.O.

Posted by: ChrisFromGA | May 11 2025 20:25 utc | 148

Macron and Merz are only acting diligently, snorting a good line from Comedy Hitler’s personal stash. It is after all very important to find out what this man is thinking, no?
For the sake of truth, I’m sure most here would do the same without much hesitation.
Btw I saw the news while on a train, and immediately got out my bag of A to very publicly snort up all the rest, but no one got the joke.

Posted by: persiflo | May 11 2025 20:44 utc | 149

Macron and Merz are only acting diligently, snorting a good line from Comedy Hitler’s personal stash. It is after all very important to find out what this man is thinking, no?
For the sake of truth, I’m sure most here would do the same without much hesitation.
Btw I saw the news while on a train, and immediately got out my bag of A to very publicly snort up all the rest, but no one got the joke.

Posted by: persiflo | May 11 2025 20:47 utc | 150

The only thing that’s really bad is how childish Macron is behaving. No one would have been interested in the package if he hadn’t felt he had to hide it so clumsily. These are the heads of state in Europe — we can’t expect much of a bright future from them. The political systems may be all well and good, but they don’t produce the right people to handle the future.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | May 11 2025 21:07 utc | 151

RE: “Unless the AFU is seriously depleted/collapsing in Ukraine I doubt they will show up. The act of negotiating with the Russians will set off an internal shit storm in Ukraine.”
Posted by: silverfoxes | May 11 2025 20:16 utc | 145
This might help everyone determine whether they are depleted or not:
https://www.rt.com/news/617382-weapon-decoy-ukraine-times/
11 May, 2025 15:34
HomeWorld News
UK sending ‘Ikea-style’ weapon decoys to Ukraine – Times
“London wants to make Russia believe it has supplied Kiev with more weapons than it has in reality, a report says”
“The British military is supplying Ukraine with flat-pack decoys designed to mimic real military hardware, The Times reported on Saturday, citing sources. The effort is aimed at deceiving Russian forces and exaggerating the amount of modern equipment on the front line.”
“At the heart of the effort are so-called “Ikea-style” kits resembling British-supplied tanks, artillery, and air defense systems that are designed to stretch Russia’s surveillance and strike capacity. “We haven’t gifted a huge amount of these, so anything we can do to make the quantities look greater on the front line is advantageous to us,” RAF Squadron Leader Lowri Simner told the paper.”
“Complete de-militarization” is a stone throw away, yet Putin f**ks around and gets in the way of his military finishing the goal. So, maybe it is he that doesn’t want it to end, the “West” I mean.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 11 2025 21:08 utc | 152

Macron and Merz are only acting diligently, snorting a good line from Comedy Hitler’s personal stash. It is after all very important to find out what this man is thinking, no?
For the sake of truth, I’m sure most here would do the same without much hesitation.
Btw I saw the news while on a train, and immediately got out my bag of A to very publicly snort up all the rest, but no one got the joke.
Posted by: persiflo | May 11 2025 20:44 utc | 149

Well I guess we now know for sure why so many Europols make the long, long train journey to Kiev and are always so frisky pleased to see the Z-man.
It’s not the Elensky No. 5, it’s the marching powder – a little thank you for being this week’s human shield on the ‘munny and vepons’ train.
Oh, and the gay sex, natch.

Posted by: ChatNPC | May 11 2025 21:11 utc | 153

“The British military is supplying Ukraine with flat-pack decoys designed to mimic real military hardware, The Times reported on Saturday, citing sources. The effort is aimed at deceiving Russian forces and exaggerating the amount of modern equipment on the front line.”
“At the heart of the effort are so-called “Ikea-style” kits resembling British-supplied tanks, artillery, and air defense systems that are designed to stretch Russia’s surveillance and strike capacity. “We haven’t gifted a huge amount of these, so anything we can do to make the quantities look greater on the front line is advantageous to us,” RAF Squadron Leader Lowri Simner told the paper.”
“Complete de-militarization” is a stone throw away, yet Putin f**ks around and gets in the way of his military finishing the goal. So, maybe it is he that doesn’t want it to end, the “West” I mean.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 11 2025 21:08 utc | 152
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The Brits for some strange reason believe in decoys. The relied on them in WWII and well before that AFAIK.
Imaginary stuff, it is still with them, just listen to their ‘leaders’.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 11 2025 21:46 utc | 154

Ukraine’s regime lost legitimacy twice:
In 2014, when an elected president was ousted in a coup.
In 2024, when Zelensky canceled elections and extended his rule under martial law.
An unelected leader atop an illegitimate regime isn’t a negotiator — he’s a middleman in someone else’s war.

Posted by: RWA | May 11 2025 21:53 utc | 155

How NATO politicians and their media lap dogs take defeat is hilarious. First they denounced the Ukraine minerals deal but when forced to sign it they hail it as a good deal (without giving reasons). Until now they advocated war, war and more war for Ukraine. After it was clear their comedian in Kiev is losing even more they now sing peace. How sad!

Posted by: Jason | May 11 2025 22:04 utc | 156

“resume talks” must mean same people as before?????

Posted by: Jo | May 11 2025 22:06 utc | 157

The real problem with this war: Ukraine is a ruthless dictatorship, while Russia, unfortunately, is a liberal democracy.
Ukraine forcibly drafts men off the streets; Russia offers money to volunteers. Zelensky bans Russian culture and language; Putin promotes minority cultures. Ukraine kills Russian generals through terrorist attacks, and the FSB is forbidden from responding.
If the roles were reversed, this war would’ve ended 11 years ago.

Posted by: RWA | May 11 2025 22:08 utc | 158

@100
6 weeks for the total capitulation of Ukraine. This can change if there is a ceasefire or a reduction in activity along the LOC.
USA sending 250 HIMARS and patriot missiles each. Ceasefire is required to save them from destruction. Despite ceasefire they should be eliminated.

Posted by: Jason | May 11 2025 22:09 utc | 159

Putins Humanitarianism for Ukraine is paid for by the blood of Russian Servicemen. You can still have Russian Civilians Live Normal Lives while actually taking the war seriously like fully knocking out energy/heating, telecoms, water, and actually killing AFU Generals

Posted by: Wandering Russki | May 11 2025 22:10 utc | 160

@154 Reliving clever trick from WWII with misty-eyed nostalgia is all they have left.
@159 That’s exactly why the Russian position is, essentially, no freeze of armaments to Ukraine, no ceasefire.

Posted by: Thirdeye | May 11 2025 22:15 utc | 161

100% agreed. Putin’s consistent show of softness towards Ukraine, while Russian soldiers are being butchered on a daily basis, makes me sick to my stomach. Showing empathy to your enemy only means showing lack of empathy for your own people.

Posted by: Uke Meat Mincer | May 11 2025 22:17 utc | 162

I have been a Putin sceptic since the start of the SMO but it can see the strategy is about to pay off some real fruit soon, by offering negotiations as the AFU grows desperate as well as their benefactors, he is setting up an impossible dynamic will lessening the prospect of escalation.
The moment negotiations start with the Russians the Zelensky coalition breaks apart and an internal shit show starts in Ukraine. The west of course has accepted that the 4 oblasts are gone and is willing to recognize that fact as it costs nothing to them and may gain them years to rearm and prime Ukraine for the next fight against Russia in the future.
The above view however doesn’t take into account the nationalists in Ukraine, that’s what the Russians have already factored.

Posted by: Silverfoxes | May 11 2025 22:20 utc | 163

The high-class debauchery is on full display. Anyone who has dealt w/ addicts knows that addiction respects no socio-economic parameters.
Addiction *is* addiction *is* addiction.
One can wear a $20,000 suit & douse oneself in Sauvage and still be an addict. The behavior and mind=set are not different.
It is not a stretch, therefore, to predict the outcome of Project Ukraine. Those who are addicts will lose to those who are not.
Was Merz an addict *before* he boarded the Cocaine Train to Kiev-? Perhaps so. Maybe that is how he was fit to be elected-?
I mean, we are seeing an “Eyes Wide Shut,” if you’re familiar w/ the Kubrick film, dimension of Project Ukraine–the drug use, the sexual anomalies, the compulsions.
The U.S. cotillion, as fronted by DJT’s team has not had the chance to *catch up* on the debauchery, however, so it seems like the U.S. side is not governed by the same weaknesses (read: addictions) as the Euro-side—but it is not *beneath* the U.S. side to ally, of course, with the frailties of their Euro-partners. Neocons in Congress demand as much.
Remember: for DJT, as for other U.S. presidents, The Directive is to curb-stomp Russia, to regime-change Russia and to dismember Russia. Addictions or not, nothing has changed in this objective.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 22:25 utc | 164

Daily DS map update: https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055
Overall: RFA took 7.7 kmsq. This is a continued extremely slow pace. At this rate, it would take over a decade to achieve the SMO territory objectives (just the contested parts of the four oblasts, NOT Odessa). This pace is less than a third of the NOV2024 pace. MAY2025 continues to underwhelm.
Specific changes, S to N:
1. Pocket of fields S of Sribne (DP front) converted. Of interest, there is a nearby expansion of gray into the region of treelines/fields N of Oleksiivka (which is a mildly strategic town as it is holding the RFA back from converting the whole Mokri Yali River pocket).
2. Vodiane Druhe and environs (E Pokrovsk flank). Of interest, there is a nearby expansion of gray which is not covering “the interchange”. The proud little green UFA counterattack from a few months ago is now gone, into the gray. It is slow, but RFA appears to finally be making progress on securing this road. Several spots in gray and one spot in red. Probably need another week of work though, not done (make that 2-3 weeks, given recent pace). Need to take the towns of Novo Poltovka and Malynivka, to be secure in terms of holding this road and resisting UFA counterattacks.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 11 2025 22:41 utc | 165

“Control is melting before our eyes”: Ukrainian resources confirm the advance of Russian troops in Bogatyr in the former Kurakhovsky direction
Ukrainian units are losing control over the village of Bogatyr, Russian troops are breaking through the defense of the most powerful fortified area created by the enemy in this settlement. Ukrainian resources admit this.
Ukrainian experts are ringing the alarm bells, Russian attack aircraft are driving the Ukrainian Armed Forces out of Bogatyr in the former Kurakhovsky direction, which the Ukrainian Armed Forces have turned into a powerful fortified area. According to available information, not only the southern outskirts of the village, but also the center have come under the control of the Russian Armed Forces. However, Ukrainian sources claim that half of the village is in the “gray zone”, which means that our forces already control this territory.
According to our resources, the stormtroopers of the Vostok group are trying to encircle the Ukrainian garrison, attacking from the western direction and cutting off the Ukrainian troops from the highway to Komar. The Ukrainian Armed Forces control only the northwestern part of the village, as stated by the Ukrainian military themselves. As one of the Ukrainian experts stated, the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are “melting before our eyes.”
In case of loss of Bogatyr, pressure on Otradnoye will be increased and movement to the west will be resumed, above the lower reaches of the Volchya River towards the villages of Yalta and Zaporozhye. The task is to cover the southern flank for convenient movement towards the Dnepropetrovsk region, said a media militant with the call sign “Flour”, who is fighting in this direction.
The loss of Bogatyr opens the way for Russian troops to enter the Dnipropetrovsk region, which Kyiv is trying to prevent. According to Ukrainian sources, Zelensky ordered Syrsky to prevent Russian troops from breaking through to another region.
Our news channels

Posted by: HERMIUS | May 11 2025 23:00 utc | 166

What’s obvious, among the vassalized Europeans, is that the drugs & sex have kept everybody united. The 8-hour train rides from Poland to Kiev were made bearable by various proclivities satisfied.
This last Cocaine Train, w/ male-at-birth (MAB) passengers *only* is revelatory. The guys went on a bender and then phoned teetotaler DJT. So much fun, right-?
It is difficult to know exactly how the drugs/sex incentive plays out w/ the Nazi princesses like Ursula, Kaja and Mette, but obviously they *enable* the overall structure even if they don’t partke.
We’ve entered the Caligula/Nero end-of-empire period. It is distinctly weird to see DJT’s team align w/ a continent full of addicts—but we also have to recognize that NATO’s raison d-etre relies on the curb-stomping of Russia, the regime-changing of Russia and the dismemberment of Russia. Which means the U.S. has to keep whipping those addicted vassals to carry water.
If Russia *wins* in Project Ukraine, that will be the final nail in NATO’s coffin.
Realistically, though, the facts are this: the cocaine can only take you so far.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 23:04 utc | 167

HERMIUS | May 11 2025 23:00 utc | 166
…Zelensky ordered Syrsky to prevent Russian troops from breaking through to another region.
Syrsky: Sure, BigZ, Steiner’s on it, no worries.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 11 2025 23:13 utc | 168

…..the stormtroopers of the Vostok group are trying to encircle the Ukrainian garrison, attacking from the western direction and cutting off the Ukrainian troops from the highway to Komar.
@ HERMIUS 166
The good old Vostok group from Donetsk. Bloody good fighters with tons of experience after 11 years of war in that area, Brave heroes.

Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | May 11 2025 23:21 utc | 169

I suggest all the pukes dissing Putin work on their Russian, move there and run for President in 2030, or Duma elections before then, and see just how far you get with your own singular brand of Russophobia. Yes, I know most are fleas, but there are a few here who think they know better than the Russian government and its General Staff.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2025 23:23 utc | 170

@ HERMIUS 166
The good old Vostok group from Donetsk. Bloody good fighters with tons of experience after 11 years of war in that area, Brave heroes.
Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | May 11 2025 23:21 utc | 169
Them and the the spartak brigade led by Motorola. If Im not wrong the two groups were responsible for the defeat of the ukes at Donetsk airport in 2015. A brutal battle indeed.

Posted by: Fyador | May 11 2025 23:36 utc | 171

Something he has begged for for 3 years..
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 11 2025 19:35 utc | 137

Putin’s never “begged” for anything, and you’re repeating such nonsense will never make it so.
The only begging that’s been going on continues in the West… Z begging everyone for money, arms, sanctions, ceasefire, etc. The EU begging Trump to stay in the game. Trump begging Putin to stop winning.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 11 2025 23:43 utc | 172

It cannot be that difficult.
When you’re dealing with a neo-Nazi regime propped up by cocaine-addled sex addicted leaders who are vassals of the U.S., it is easy to see on whom you’d wager a bet.
This is a no-brainer.
What began w/ great promise—NATO as a guarantor of Europe’s continental peace—has crumpled cataclysmically under its own fatal flaws, not the least of which is the caliber of European leadership, so-called, on which it ultimately was forced to rely.
The U.S., of course, is joined at the hip w/ NATO, even as DJT badmouths the alliance, so expect the U.S., during DJT’s admin, to go down w/ the ship. Russia will achieve an in-yer-face defeat of NATO in the abattoir of Ukraine, from which carnage NATO will never rise.
Of course, the alliance will still exist. Of course, there will be annual summits. But such things will be empty gestures—like addicts who pantomime the rolling up of a sleeve, the tying off of the arm, the raising of the vein in anticipation of the injection that takes away all pain.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 23:44 utc | 173

Oh, no-!
Witkoff plans a 5th trip to Moscow-?
In which Witkoff will present to VVP Gen Kellogg’s 22-point armistice plan-?
“See, President Putin, look: your troops move back 15 kilometers and then the Ukrainian troops will move back 15 kilometers. Do you see the demilitarized zone-? Can you live with that, President Putin-?”
Have we had enough of Witkoff-?
Have we not had it *up to here* w/ Witkoff-?
A Witkoff dressed up as Gen Kellogg is not a useful Witkoff.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 23:50 utc | 174

The best thing about the coke video is that it is going to make Trump furious to see that Macron is playing the Churchillian part he wanted for himself. Trump, Macron and Netanyahu famously share a genuine narcissic personality disorder and they dont like it when a usurper is taking their part.
Plus dure sera la chute…like with any coke head.

Posted by: Tom | May 11 2025 23:52 utc | 175

Putin:
There is a war going on now, and we are proposing negotiations, what’s wrong with that?
I leave you with God, goodbye

Posted by: Suresh | May 11 2025 23:59 utc | 176

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 11 2025 12:29 utc | 6
Putin’s idea to have peace talks with ukrops in Istambul is really good.
Not because it’s going to happen which most likely it won’t, but because it has got Trump and Endorgan on Russia’s side and left the euro liberals + ukrops isolated and stupid.
Even if it happens, it would mean euro liberals + ukrops have accepted their errors and resumed talks in Istambul after they have lost a lot more.
Whether you think slow SMO/attrition vs sq. km is brilliant or stupid, I think Putin offering to restart the Istanbul peace talks is definitely 3D chess, regardless of where it leads. It shows that he won’t be painted into a corner.

Posted by: Paranaense | May 12 2025 0:00 utc | 177

Putin has presumably known that USA has been at war with Russia for at least a decade. His goal has to be the utter defeat of the empire. It can’t merely be to drive the empire out of Ukraine. I think, if he is who I want him to be, he has to want to topple the US government. Nothing less should be his goal. It’s what happened to the losers in both world wars.
I wonder what Russia will do once the enemy is gone from Ukraine. I don’t think his stated goals for the SMO are the same as his goals within the larger context of the WW3 going on.

Posted by: HB Brian | May 12 2025 0:05 utc | 178

RE: “It shows that he won’t be painted into a corner.”
Posted by: Paranaense | May 12 2025 0:00 utc | 177
Sure. Great optics.
Meanwhile, more Russians are dying needlessly.
The “attriting” is done. Time to go in for the kill and be done, at least with Ukraine.
No matter what Putin does, says, the West has no intention of doing anything but war…ever.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 0:16 utc | 179

@ steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 23:50 utc | 174 spaming the bar about a potential Witkoff trip to Moscow presenting the Kellog plan
I usually skim by your screeds but went to check your claim and the only posting I found said the meeting you posit will happen hasn’t been scheduled…..sounds like worthless propaganda to me
Thanks for keeping the noise to signal level of the bar high…/s

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 12 2025 0:19 utc | 180

Realistically, though, the facts are this: the cocaine can only take you so far.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 23:04 utc | 167

Indeed.
Not to mention it is easily adulterated, with anything from fentanyl to Novichok (or one of any number of Porton Down’s mind-bending delights).
It would certainly explain the curious detachment of the western political class.
No Churchillian alcoholism here, just coke-addled brain farts to get through the day.

Posted by: ChatNPC | May 12 2025 0:22 utc | 181

RE: Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 11 2025 23:43 utc | 172
I was referring to Zelensky. Not Putin.
Zelensky wants headlines, photos of him face-to-face with Putin.
It will all never happen. Putin simply wasted his and his staffs time even bringing it up.
A simple “No” to the ceasefire, hard and fast would have done the trick, but no, he had to run amuck cuz if “optics” and think he outplayed Zelensky.
You can never “outplay” folks that hate you to the core and want to destroy you.
You simply have to destroy them or be destroyed by them . That’s Russia’s choice.
There is no other. And all the “optic” and 3D horse shit won’t change that equation.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 0:26 utc | 182

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 12 2025 0:19 utc | 180
RE: *spam* about Witkoff to Moscow
<< Mercouris delivered the deets on 11 May in his update on The Duran. Keep researching, man. The Library Science Professional is strong in you.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 12 2025 0:26 utc | 183

Russia is baking the cake, it has all the ingredients, baking skills, the oven, and the recipe in place to continue doing it in the same manner it has always done since the beginning. It will also make the icing and do the decoration of the cake in the end. It’s been baking the same cake since day one. It knows it cannot rely on the US or Ukraine or NATO to help or even do the washing up after the cake is made.
Trump, Zelensky, and NATO continue to pretend they are cake decorators, they couldn’t even imagine how to bake a cake.

Posted by: George | May 12 2025 0:32 utc | 184

Seems the new line from the troll dipshittery centers is ‘Putin weak,SMO bad, hurry up!’ When every last Russian knows that they’re slow roasting your Western testicles. Get fucked idjits.
The same Russia doomer lines they’ve been feebly pushing forever. Where’s your complaint about Zelensky, pushing his entire nation into the meat grinder to save his pathetic coward ass? Oh right, he’s one of you. Birds of a feather and all.
Meanwhile the dogs keep barking and the SMO continues. Honey badger don’t give a fuck.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 12 2025 0:33 utc | 185

#179, Trubind1 “No matter what Putin does, says, the West has no intention of doing anything but war…ever.”
—-
sure, this is ongoing since around 1998, and the patriotic core often nicknamed siviloki, ie. the ones in charge with Putin as front figure,and a newer generation of the same in the queue, know more than very well about it. The weakness of NATO is that we are not in 1914 or 1940: huge armies can’t be send to fight. In 1853-56 France and UK sent big armies to Crimea. This is not possible nowadays. Ukraine has been providing cannon fodder and it is not working. At some point there will be full exhaustion.
Putin will not show in Stambul, for sure, but there could be a Russian team, like in April 2022. USA ie. the puppet master will of course not agree to Russian proposals.
Trump people and generally Americans are idiots. They are so much used by natural education and environment to confidence tricks that they believe blindly in their capacity to lure anyone. Quite amazing, because on the Russian side this doesn’t work since 1998, or even since 1242.
USA tries without success to buy time in order to regroup, but as this is not working, they will send in more ballistic firepower from the remaining NATO stock in Europe. Which will in turn increase the destruction of Ukraine.

Posted by: Timur | May 12 2025 0:35 utc | 186

RE: “Yes, I know most are fleas, but there are a few here who think they know better than the Russian government and its General Staff.”
Posted by: karlof1 | May 11 2025 23:23 utc | 170
It would be more useful if you stopped acting as if they are infallible and don’t appear, “optically” speaking, as stupid as their counter parts and this whole circus is beginning to look like a reality TV show, of which the lauded Russian government feeds into daily for their own consumption as well.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 0:39 utc | 187

Something he has begged for for 3 years..
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 11 2025 19:35 utc | 137

Ah hah. A propagandist or just a liar? Putin has done no such thing.
It’s clear someone has spit out his dummy. Do you need your diaper changed, trubind? Poor baby.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 12 2025 0:41 utc | 188

RE: “Which will in turn increase the destruction of Ukraine.”
Posted by: Timur | May 12 2025 0:35 utc | 186
Well, obviously something is going to get destroyed.
Russia has a choice, them or Ukraine. That’s the only choice there ever was.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 0:43 utc | 189

Wow trubind, tell us more of your startgic genius. The binary of Russia or Ukraine getting destroyed, those are the ONLY OPTIONS. Totally not the false choice presented to them by the imbeciles who think they’re ‘masters of the universe’. I can’t tell if you’re actually this stupid or just pretending.
Just kidding. I can tell.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 12 2025 0:45 utc | 190

It’s amazing how Doctor Eleven through the way he writes and expresses himself with similar childish diatribe, so much resembles the recently blocked troll William.

Posted by: George | May 12 2025 0:52 utc | 191

RE: Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 12 2025 0:45 utc | 190
Fine Doc, you want to go for the personal insults, fine.
You neither have to be an imbecile or a “Master of the Universe” to see the writing on this wall for the last 30 years.
But sure, make like there are other choices if it makes you “smart”. They’ll be no NATO threatening Russia.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 0:58 utc | 192

You can never “outplay” folks that hate you to the core and want to destroy you.
You simply have to destroy them or be destroyed by them . That’s Russia’s choice.
There is no other. And all the “optic” and 3D horse shit won’t change that equation.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 0:26 utc | 182

And that’s exactly what Russia’s doing in it’s own sweet time. That said, it IS an international stage and Russia has to “go through the motions” not for the West’s benefit but for that of its BRICS partners (aka “Global South”). It’s because Russia’s “acting responsibly” that China’s reaffirming and strengthening their alliance and North Korea’s stating they’ll happily fight the West on Russia’s behalf. [It’s been noted that NK could easily deploy enough troops to Ukraine to roll over NATO all by itself.]
Russia’s taking on the bullies of the collective west in such a way to gain the respect and admiration of the rest of the world. Contrast that to say Israel’s behavior…

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 12 2025 1:14 utc | 193

@ bored | May 11 2025 17:58 utc | 101
You’re consistently wrong about, well, everything, and your doomer shtik is getting old. I guess that’s why “guest from franconia” and even “vsrgas” have suddenly reappeared?

Posted by: malenkov | May 12 2025 1:24 utc | 194

Propaganda works. No one who doesn’t believe propaganda is ever going to become Pope. That is partially why I don’t get all of the “New Pope” stuff in the alt-commentariat. Sure, I am not a Catholic but the ability of smart people to only see a portion of the picture never ceases to astound me.
The same for most global leaders. People think Orban is ok, but Orban is a committed Zionist who was behind the “Pager” atrocity committed against Hezbollah. The Ayatollah may be ok because he is constrained by not being a Head of State outside of Iran.
The masses need to stop seeing leaders as morally superior or enlightened. If I were going to corrupt a system strategically, I would corrupt the people everyone looks to for guidance, like the Pope, the President, etc.
The ones at the top are amplifiers of any narrative. Force multipliers.
And then there is the human habit of hero worship, whether an actor, musician, or politician. All are strong vectors for narrative transmission.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 17:12 utc | 85
Well said and elegantly put!

Posted by: Silent Waves | May 12 2025 1:28 utc | 195

RE: “ Russia’s taking on the bullies of the collective west in such a way to gain the respect and admiration of the rest of the world. Contrast that to say Israel’s behavior…”
Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 12 2025 1:14 utc | 193
I suppose even I was impressed for years by the “civil” Putin vs the “bombastic bully West”…(including Nuttyahoo).
But this latest “civility” of “going along” with Trumps delusions of being a “mediator” between the Russian and Ukraine “hatred”, and Putin suddenly deciding the “collective West” was only the EU, not the U.S. anymore, was a “civility bridge” too far. This isn’t 3D chess, it’s blatant dishonesty. To everyone.
And in the global respect and admiration scale, certainly relegated Putin down the scale a few notches. He’s beginning to resemble a wind chime.

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 2:04 utc | 196

And in the global respect and admiration scale, certainly relegated Putin down the scale a few notches. He’s beginning to resemble a wind chime.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 2:04 utc | 196
________
Certainly you can cite evidence of that?

Posted by: malenkov | May 12 2025 2:08 utc | 197

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 0:43 utc | 189
Well, obviously something is going to get destroyed.
Russia has a choice, them or Ukraine. That’s the only choice there ever was.
Yeah, but I note that his Z’nes has challenged VVP to meet him ( and capitulate??) in Istanbul on Thursday.
As Karlof 1 pointed out this must mean that Z has rescinded his own holy vow to never negotiate with the despicable Vlad, although I cannot recall any public announcement o this effect.
Clearly in the light of western inspired arrest warrants on Vlad it would be stupid for Putin to attend these talks in person. However, the despicable Vlad could delegate a high level team to stand in for him, and I suggest Lavrov and M. Zakharova should be chosen, with Maria taking the lead in the dealings. Z man could have Yermac as second.
I suggest to b that the full proceedings be available to MoA patrons through the big screen TV on the bar, and that sufficient popcorn and grog be available for the duration of this event.
After Maria has publicly flogged Z man, the idiot will wish he was back in the White house being told a few uncomfortable home-truths by DJT and JD Vance who are far less savage.
I can dream of this spectacle, but it would be classic for the historical record.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 12 2025 2:30 utc | 198

RE: Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 12 2025 2:30 utc | 198
Appears no one will “show up”. Just like Nuttyahoo, Trump isn’t going to hold Nazi Zelensky’s feet to the fire, and tell him he has to go, or no weapons.
They’ll be no “ceasefire” Monday, hence, no Thursday meet. Per Nazi Z’s “terms”. US had 17-18 billion Russia sovereign funds, the EU 174 billion, that the U.S. has wanted its hands on for 2 years. The EU will steal it, and the US will have their hands out…
I’m guessing the “collective West” particularly the U.S. will come out if this with nearly a trillion considering gas theft ect.
The Ukraine meat grinder generated billions off of dead bodies (that doesn’t even include organ theft from those dead bodies).
All I see ahead, is a “collective” reckoning…

Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 2:55 utc | 199

You can never “outplay” folks that hate you to the core and want to destroy you.
You simply have to destroy them or be destroyed by them . That’s Russia’s choice.
There is no other. And all the “optic” and 3D horse shit won’t change that equation.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 12 2025 0:26 utc | 182
You are right and it is happening in the currency field. That is the real war which will decide the fate of nations and alliances.These are little battles. Exile gives excellent updates of that war and expected timelines.

Posted by: Michael J | May 12 2025 2:58 utc | 200