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May 8, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-099
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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– A video on YouTube suggests that Russia is preparing to cross the Dnipre river near Kherson. Has anyone more / better information ? Posted by: WMG | May 9 2025 17:34 utc | 101 Direct negotiations between the U.S. and Russia *could* conceivably happen, w/ the ultimate objective being to extricate the *U.S.* from the conflict, but there’s a hitch: the U.S., as the lead paymaster to the proxy, Ukraine, can’t figure out *how* to abandon the proxy without appearing to admit that the proxy lost the war. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 9 2025 17:35 utc | 102 Germany went pretty hungry during WW1. Posted by: WMG | May 9 2025 17:43 utc | 103 @ WMG | May 9 2025 17:34 utc | 101 Posted by: boneless | May 9 2025 17:48 utc | 104 Crude oil just went past $61 a barrel. This is important For Russia, to keep going. Posted by: Eighthman | May 9 2025 19:14 utc | 105 This is important For Russia, to keep going. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 9 2025 19:35 utc | 106 101, abnormally difficult claims require abnormally high proof. Posted by: Anonymous | May 9 2025 21:00 utc | 107 DS daily update. Posted by: Anonymous | May 9 2025 21:06 utc | 108 Posted by: Anonymous | May 9 2025 21:06 utc | 108 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 9 2025 21:11 utc | 109 YetAnotherAnon | May 9 2025 15:31 utc | 97 Posted by: Cynic | May 10 2025 1:07 utc | 110 PMC – Private Military Company, like Wagner was.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 10 2025 6:14 utc | 111 US embassy received warning (from who?) of unordinary air strike in Ukraine and Kapustin Yar test site airspace has been closed from May 12th to May 13th. Hope they hit Lwow instead of Kiev. Posted by: unimperator | May 10 2025 6:34 utc | 112 It’s not the North Koreans that fled the scene in Russia… Posted by: unimperator | May 10 2025 7:02 utc | 113 Ursula VDL says a ‘EU Court’ is established in Lwow. That would be a nice target for one of Oreshnik’s 30 programmable warheads. Posted by: unimperator | May 10 2025 8:32 utc | 114 “MOSCOW, May 10. /TASS/. The AFU violated the ceasefire 9318 times” ( tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/23905829 ) Posted by: rk | May 10 2025 12:22 utc | 115 Lviv is the capital of Ukrainian fascism, so it’s quite symbolic that the European Russophobes launched their tribunal against anti-fascist Russia there. It’s like launching a tribunal against the USSR in Nazi Germany’s Nuremberg. Posted by: Mikhail Rogov | May 10 2025 13:28 utc | 116 “German Chancellor posed in Kiev against the background of the symbols of the Third Reich. Merz rejected the demand of US President Donald Trump to hold presidential and parliament elections in Ukraine” Posted by: rk | May 10 2025 13:32 utc | 117 Wellie, the “ceasefire” ends in about 7 hours or so. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 10 2025 13:35 utc | 118 Ukraine and European leaders, meeting today in Kiev, have agreed to an unconditional 30-day truce with the backing of DJT, and are threatening VVP with new “massive” sanctions if he fails to comply. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 13:36 utc | 119 “Russia is required to immediately cease fire for 30 days without any additional conditions or demands. Britain, France, Germany, Poland, the United States and other members of the “coalition of the willing” will increase military aid to Ukraine and introduce new sanctions against Russia if Putin does not return to the path of peace” Posted by: rk | May 10 2025 14:26 utc | 120 Posted by: rk | May 10 2025 14:26 utc | 120 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 10 2025 14:50 utc | 121 steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 13:36 utc | 119 Posted by: Cynic | May 10 2025 15:31 utc | 122 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 13:36 utc | 119 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 15:32 utc | 123 I want to see little cowardly britain station their “deterrent“ force. They will flee just like the hms defender once a drunken russian gas station owner shoots in their general direction. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 10 2025 15:43 utc | 124 Looks like Macron, Stermer and Merz (with Tusk as a background actor) are announcing 30-days ceasefire to start on Monday Posted by: vlodek | May 10 2025 15:44 utc | 125 vlodek | May 10 2025 15:44 utc | 125 Posted by: Cynic | May 10 2025 15:51 utc | 126 Russia’s chance of getting a better deal from the US died the second Trump got the minerals deal. I suspect Trumps interests are fading in the war now so he’ll use it get better terms with the EU. Posted by: Glittering Walrus | May 10 2025 16:04 utc | 127 I think Putin has a golden opportunity to declare a ceasefire for full Ukraine elections. Give ’em a week… Posted by: Eighthman | May 10 2025 16:19 utc | 128 Whatever that means…. Posted by: Oliver Krug | May 10 2025 16:28 utc | 129 Posted by: Cynic | May 10 2025 15:31 utc | 122 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 16:45 utc | 130 ++++Cliffhanger Alert++++ Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 16:59 utc | 131 Demanding a ceasefire when you’re a third-party to a war you’re losing is a weak move. It exhudes the smell of defeat. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 10 2025 17:11 utc | 132 It’s as if the West is saying, “We’re going to Kursk you. We’re going to Kursk you again & again & again. Then we’re going to Krynky you. We’re going to Krynky you so hard it’ll be a Kursk Krynky.” Posted by: ld | May 10 2025 17:21 utc | 133 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 10 2025 17:11 utc | 132 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 10 2025 17:35 utc | 134 Saturday the leaders of the UK, France, Germany, and Poland met with Zelensky in Kiev. Posted by: Passerby | May 10 2025 18:29 utc | 135 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 10 2025 17:35 utc | 135 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 10 2025 18:38 utc | 136 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 10 2025 18:38 utc | 137 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 10 2025 18:44 utc | 137 L’armée russe se déplace en ânes, scooters électriques et buggy aliexpress, ils n’ont plus aucun IFV et la plupart des tanks ont été détruits. Il est temps pour Poutine de reconnaître sa défaite. Posted by: Vergogned | May 10 2025 19:36 utc | 138 Killnet hackers got and transferred to the Russian Armed Forces the geolocation of stations of the Western tracking system Airfaince from Sumy to Odessa regions. Posted by: Gipas | May 10 2025 20:00 utc | 139 Looks like Russia might agree to be fooled again and the EU heads will laugh their ass off. Posted by: Fun Fudge | May 10 2025 20:23 utc | 140 Posted by: Fun Fudge | May 10 2025 20:23 utc | 141 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 10 2025 20:26 utc | 141 The EU, Trump, and Zelensky can laugh, but they have still lost this war. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 10 2025 20:28 utc | 142 Russia doesn’t have the same production rate and capabilities as all NATO combined. So sure, they could rearm too, but I believe Ukraine would benefit a lot more of the “rearm” part of the ceasefire. Posted by: Fun Fudge | May 10 2025 20:40 utc | 143 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 10 2025 18:44 utc | 138 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 20:46 utc | 144 Which makes one wonder, are they stupid or crazy? Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 10 2025 22:21 utc | 145 Reposting from Trump-India-Pakistan thread where info about Putin’s upcoming statement was first posted: Posted by: JB | May 10 2025 23:17 utc | 146 Watch for the SMO to upgrade to an anti-terrorist op in order to make the leaders of the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev military targets. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 23:19 utc | 147 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 23:19 utc | 148 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 23:20 utc | 148 The West augurs for a major escalation against Russia—namely the detention & impounding of Russia’s shadow fleet of oil tankers. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 10 2025 23:25 utc | 149
They’re probably think that they’re just like the film and stage actors that they ape. Derek Jacobi, for example, used that expression in “Gladiator” to describe Ancient Rome; the sands of the Coliseum are “the beating heart of Rome” …yadda yadda. Posted by: NH | May 10 2025 23:39 utc | 150 Putin gave a press conference without questions to the Western media in the Kremlin at the Malakite Foyer at wee hours offering starting serious negotiations with Kiev regime where they were just left, in Istanbul, starting on May 15th…. Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | May 10 2025 23:50 utc | 151 PUTIN is made of Origami – KEEPS FOLDING Again and again and again. Posted by: Roger | May 11 2025 0:04 utc | 152 Numerous reports indicate Monday morning might be Oreshnik NOTAM time:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 11 2025 0:06 utc | 153 Putin offers Ukraine direct talks without preconditions Posted by: Roger | May 11 2025 0:06 utc | 154 Demanding a ceasefire when you’re a third-party to a war you’re losing is a weak move. It exhudes the smell of defeat. Posted by: Roger | May 11 2025 0:20 utc | 155 People forget that when Putin announced Oreshnik, it was of several new weapons to be revealed based upon “new principles”. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 0:21 utc | 156 My guesses as to what the Kremlin is thinking. The context is that China agrees the West is a bit less of a long-term threat than it was years ago; the specifics are Russsia has in place the plan with the contingencies for crossing the Dnieper at Kherson. Successful but lots of Russian casualties. They know that Ukraine knows. Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | May 11 2025 0:30 utc | 157 BEGGING FOR NEGOTIATIONS WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS NEXT THURSDAY WHEN YOU ARE THE INSTIGATOR OF A WAR AND HAVE ANNEXED (hypothetically not physically) 20% OF A NATION ALREADY, a war you’re are supposed to be WINNING HANDS DOWN is A PATHETIC WEAK MOVE. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 0:38 utc | 158 Russia’s standard pattern: Posted by: Nobody Special | May 11 2025 0:39 utc | 159 Posted by: NH | May 10 2025 23:39 utc | 151 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 1:04 utc | 160 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 11 2025 0:38 utc | 159 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 1:07 utc | 161 Moss Robeson, expert on Ukrainian Nazism, has moved to Subtrack Posted by: Don Firineach | May 11 2025 1:13 utc | 162 I find Putin’s announcement of an offer to negotiate directly with Ukraine w/o conditions on May 15 as a proper retort to the demand by the EU Coalition of the Willing for a ceasefire again/still. Posted by: psychohistorian | May 11 2025 1:25 utc | 163 Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | May 11 2025 0:30 utc | 158 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 1:26 utc | 164 Posted by: psychohistorian | May 11 2025 1:25 utc | 164 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 1:31 utc | 165 “The Baltics, UK, Poland, France and the EU all believe Russia will try to take all of Europe. Posted by: acementhead | May 11 2025 1:33 utc | 166 My apologies to all for my comment above at 1:33 utc I hadn’t read far enough and didn’t realise that it was the troll, Roger, to whom I was replying. Posted by: acementhead | May 11 2025 1:41 utc | 167 Nothing quite like the blatant bias when someone uses the term “begging” exclusively for the side that’s always been winning and not the side that’s always been whining. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 11 2025 1:44 utc | 168 Russia’s repeated offers for negotiations with Kiev — especially gestures like the 72-hour Victory Day ceasefire — are increasingly misguided and futile. Moscow’s proposal was dismissed by Ukraine as a “manipulation,” even as thousands of Ukrainian attacks, including cross-border strikes, continued unabated. This reinforces a harsh reality: Ukraine’s current undemocratic fascist EU-US sponsored leadership under Zelensky has shown itself to be agreement-incapable, echoing the same unreliability seen in U.S. diplomacy. Posted by: Roger | May 11 2025 3:13 utc | 169 Rule #1 remains: You do not negotiate with kidnappers and terrorists. You kill them. Posted by: Roger | May 11 2025 3:22 utc | 170 Just now on RT: Posted by: Indulis Kradzins | May 11 2025 3:27 utc | 171 Just who’s court is the ball in? Posted by: Roger | May 11 2025 3:35 utc | 172 Someone who offers Negotiations every week for over a month is begging. Posted by: Roger | May 11 2025 3:40 utc | 173 Roger | May 11 2025 3:40 utc | 174 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 11 2025 3:50 utc | 174 Carney Participates in Coalition of the Willing Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 11 2025 6:13 utc | 176 This tidbit of blue & yellow journo—-erm, propaganda—-from the nytimes, is of note: Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 7:04 utc | 177 Since DJT took office, vowing to pull back U.S. support for Ukraine, European leaders have worried that they would be unable to supply Ukraine with the weapons it needs. So far, it looks like they were right. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 7:51 utc | 178 Does anyone else have problems reaching https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation.htm? Posted by: WMG | May 11 2025 8:04 utc | 179 Russia is preparing a amphibious landing south of Odessa ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Posted by: WMG | May 11 2025 8:07 utc | 180
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https://t.me/ukraine_watch/40885 Posted by: Norwegian | May 11 2025 8:09 utc | 181 DJT, truthing on Truth Social, likes VVP’s counter-offer—negotiations in Istanbul on 15 May—to Europe’s *demand* for a ceasefire: Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 8:09 utc | 182
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https://t.me/Slavyangrad/126996 Posted by: Norwegian | May 11 2025 8:37 utc | 183 MOSCOW, May 11. /TASS/. Ukraine is ready for talks with Russia only if Moscow agrees to the ceasefire proposed by Kiev and a number of European Union countries from May 12, Vladimir Zelensky said. Posted by: JB | May 11 2025 8:43 utc | 184 saw a picture of the moronic 5 in kiev in front of all those piss&tears flags, and notably, many with the azov variant and the wolfsangel. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 11 2025 8:49 utc | 185 @Justpassinby | May 11 2025 8:49 utc | 186 Posted by: Norwegian | May 11 2025 8:58 utc | 186
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/127005 Posted by: Norwegian | May 11 2025 9:08 utc | 187 Maria making it clear for resident lil’willies and cipso t(rk)olls
Posted by: 5thcolumn | May 11 2025 9:40 utc | 188 Further to my post JB | May 11 2025 8:43 utc | 185, and Macron as cited by Norwegian | May 11 2025 9:08 utc | 188 Posted by: JB | May 11 2025 9:49 utc | 189 steel_porcupine | May 11 2025 8:09 utc | 183 namely the detention & impounding of Russia’s shadow fleet of oil tankers. Such a thing would be an act of war Posted by: rk | May 11 2025 11:05 utc | 191 Think of the hundreds of thousands of lives that will be saved as this never ending “bloodbath” hopefully comes to an end. Posted by: Newbie | May 11 2025 11:13 utc | 192 |
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