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May 4, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-096
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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@ Eighthman | May 6 2025 14:26 utc | 200
The irony does escape you. Posted by: boneless | May 6 2025 14:30 utc | 201 DJT has had his Men In Black Suits With Dark Ties experience. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 6 2025 14:31 utc | 202 Am in Moscow for the parade. FWIW, the folk I have talked to are resigned to the fact that this is likely to be a long war, because even though the body count is wildly in Moscow’s favor (possibly as high, currently, as 10:1), the UAF is still receiving significant infusions of non-Ukrainians sponsored by western authorities. These include the French mercenaries who were recently Kinzahl’d, subsequently revealed as Foreign Legion and on the French government payroll.
yes, and this is the one thing where the russians have a disadvantage. russia can atritt the ukraine, but the west is trying to atritt russia with cheap cannonfodder mercenaries from colombia, syrias “moderate rebels” and other takfiri/wahabi/islamist and so on. theres also enough stupid nazis in the eu who gladly go to ukraine. germany had a tv report about “our brave soldiers on the front” (of course they were only far far away as “advisors”). Posted by: Justpassinby | May 6 2025 14:41 utc | 204 @205 Posted by: paddy | May 6 2025 14:50 utc | 205 @205 Posted by: paddy | May 6 2025 14:50 utc | 206 reply to 202 Posted by: Eighthman | May 6 2025 15:17 utc | 207 What ever happened to that southern Zhap offensive, people were talking about months ago? Posted by: Newbie | May 6 2025 15:19 utc | 208 I hold the view that this site is for learned opinion and speculation about the war and its future. Posted by: Night Tripper | May 6 2025 15:20 utc | 209 @ Eighthman | May 6 2025 15:17 utc | 208
This is correct. Furthermore, this is exactly why you’re being told your source is not worth anyone’s time. Posted by: boneless | May 6 2025 15:23 utc | 210 @ Anonymous | May 6 2025 13:43 utc | 191 Posted by: boneless | May 6 2025 15:30 utc | 211 Ukraine attack on Tyotkino is developing with more Ukr troops moved to border. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 6 2025 15:48 utc | 212 Ukraine attack on Tyotkino is developing with more Ukr troops moved to border. Posted by: Newbie | May 6 2025 16:06 utc | 213 Posted by: Newbie | May 6 2025 16:06 utc | 216 Posted by: Milites | May 6 2025 16:57 utc | 214 Collective Biden thought if they climbed the escalatory ladder on the battlefield they could goad VVP into making a hurried mistake or over-reacting militarily, thereby forcing the SMO to live up to the adjective most often applied by the West—-“brutal”—-as in “brutal war of aggression.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 6 2025 16:58 utc | 215 In today’s presser with Canadian PM Mark ‘Carnage’ Carney, Trump telegraphed a coming ‘great announcement’. That announcement was posted here some days ago. For those that missed it here it is again. Remember, you first saw it here. Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 6 2025 17:05 utc | 216 “VVP is un-goadable.” Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 6 2025 17:34 utc | 217 When Sec Hegseth met in Brussels w/ his NATO counterparts just before the Munich Security Conference, he laid it on the line and told the European leaders that *they* would have to sign the checks for Project Ukraine now while the U.S. prioritized other matters, like containing China. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 6 2025 17:36 utc | 218 Are Ukraine droning the airports again? Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 6 2025 17:47 utc | 219 reply to 210, 211 Posted by: Eighthman | May 6 2025 18:31 utc | 220 Posted by: Eighthman | May 6 2025 18:31 utc | 223 Posted by: Night Tripper | May 6 2025 18:55 utc | 221 the closer the victory celebrations come, the shittier/nazier the eu goes. Posted by: Justpassinby | May 6 2025 20:24 utc | 222 Ukraine/NATO are sending drones to both Moscow and Crimea. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 6 2025 20:46 utc | 223 They’re starting to eat each other:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/rovenskaya/1746444484-nachalnika-ttsk-na-rivnenshchini-vidpravili-na-front-pislya-guchnih-zayav (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 6 2025 20:57 utc | 224 Dontcha just love all the unity and loyalty on show in Ukraine:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/cherkasskaya/1746527086-v-cherkaskiy-oblasti-nachalnik-ttsk-mozhe-sisti-na-12-rokiv-za-zriv-mobilizatsiyi (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 6 2025 21:09 utc | 225 Is he a former minister of energy from Russia? Then what he says should carry some weight. I have heard that oil in Russia costs $15 to produce but their budget in September will be in trouble Posted by: malenkov | May 6 2025 21:18 utc | 226 Posted by: Milites | May 6 2025 16:57 utc | 217 Posted by: Newbie | May 6 2025 21:26 utc | 228 India missile strikes on Pakistan, there are casualties. Has Modi been to Netanyahu’s governance classes? Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 6 2025 21:33 utc | 230 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 6 2025 21:33 utc | 233 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 6 2025 21:46 utc | 231 The tale is that Pakistan sold nearly all their 155mm artillery shells to Ukraine and only have enough left for a few days, should serious fighting break out. Therefore India can strike them Bibi-style without worrying too much about comeback. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 6 2025 22:01 utc | 232 https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airport-disruption Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 6 2025 22:09 utc | 233 Ukraine/NATO are trying their hardest. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 6 2025 22:44 utc | 234 Peculiarly, Witkoff’s son and Don jr have engaged in some business dealings in Qatar at the same time that Witkoff himself has been working toward negotiations w/ Hamas in Qatar. Matters don’t look exactly germaine. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 6 2025 22:58 utc | 235 It is as if checks & balances were suspended on account of Witkoff’s unique statecraft. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 6 2025 23:12 utc | 236 It is as if checks & balances were suspended on account of Witkoff’s unique statecraft. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 6 2025 23:13 utc | 237 EXCUSE THE DOUBLE POST… site’s been giving me fits lately. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 6 2025 23:14 utc | 238 Posted by: ld | May 6 2025 23:26 utc | 242 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 6 2025 23:40 utc | 239 Are you suggesting that liberal fantasists in Moscow are dreaming of Putin using devastating force by hitting Kiev with a squadron of their Oreshnik hypersonic missiles? Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 6 2025 23:49 utc | 240 Yes, because generally, Russians don’t announce their moves before they make them. Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 6 2025 23:54 utc | 241 Yesterday was the anniversary of the Odessa Trade Union building fire. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2025 0:01 utc | 242 Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 6 2025 23:13 utc | 240 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 7 2025 0:02 utc | 243 ^^Re: my previous post, I guess the more accurate way to phrase it was that yesterday was the anniversary of when NEWS of the Odessa fire reached us here in “the West” – it actually happened a couple days prior. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2025 0:02 utc | 244 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 7 2025 0:01 utc | 248 Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 7 2025 0:06 utc | 245 “This is very interesting if it is true. Posted by: George | May 7 2025 2:16 utc | 246 First time the west acknowledges that they lost a HIMARS Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 3:10 utc | 247 It seems trump has decided he will support ukraine as long as it takes, basically continue the biden policy. But in order to save face he needs to have ukraine look like they are doing something in return, hence the phoney mineral deal and now this “please take a few deportees” circus. Posted by: U R | May 7 2025 3:41 utc | 248 Posted by: George | May 7 2025 2:16 utc | 254 Posted by: watcher | May 7 2025 3:41 utc | 249 Odessa must be taken via land. Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 3:56 utc | 250
cool photo Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 7 2025 4:39 utc | 251 Posted by: Newbie | May 6 2025 21:26 utc | 231 Posted by: Milites | May 7 2025 7:48 utc | 252 Final thing, does the mineral deal with Ukraine mean that Trump already knows where the line of contact will be frozen? My suspicion is that both the Russians and the US already know how and where this is going to end, with both sides helping each other’s strategic priorities, post SMO. Posted by: Night Tripper | May 7 2025 8:31 utc | 253 Are you suggesting that liberal fantasists in Moscow are dreaming of Putin using devastating force by hitting Kiev with a squadron of their Oreshnik hypersonic missiles? Posted by: rk | May 7 2025 8:44 utc | 254 @ rk | May 7 2025 8:44 utc | 254 Posted by: boneless | May 7 2025 9:07 utc | 255 Posted by: boneless | May 7 2025 9:07 utc | 255 Posted by: Badjoke | May 7 2025 9:28 utc | 256 Posted by: Milites | May 7 2025 7:48 utc | 252 Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 9:30 utc | 257 Looks like Kursk 2.0 isn’t going anything like the opening of Kursk 1. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 7 2025 9:43 utc | 258 Re: Posted by: George | May 7 2025 2:16 utc | 246
Happy to Barrel – and you as well George. Posted by: Julian | May 7 2025 10:05 utc | 259 Posted by: Julian | May 7 2025 10:05 utc | 259 Posted by: Night Tripper | May 7 2025 10:08 utc | 260 According to Oleksii Chernyshov, Deputy UA Prime Minister: In 1991 there were 51 million Ukrainians. In 2015, there were 42 million Ukrainians. In 2024 there are only 32 million Ukrainians. And that is according to the Deputy PM. (welt.de) Posted by: Passerby | May 7 2025 10:33 utc | 261 Posted by: Night Tripper | May 7 2025 8:31 utc | 253 Posted by: Milites | May 7 2025 10:37 utc | 262 At this rate, the last Ukrainian will be long gone before the Russian army is in Kiev. Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 10:41 utc | 263 Posted by: Milites | May 7 2025 10:37 utc | 262 Posted by: Night Tripper | May 7 2025 10:48 utc | 264 Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 9:30 utc | 257 Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 11:17 utc | 265 Awful Avalanche, run by Yalensis, has an important story out today. May 7, 2025. Posted by: donten | May 7 2025 12:16 utc | 266 Making no one regret that the Collective Biden ensemble got removed from the White House: Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 7 2025 12:47 utc | 267 Merz has already made it crystal clear he will send the Taurus missiles. Russia will make threats about crossing red lines, nuking Berlin and all that jazz and then will bomb another residential area in Kyiv as a response and move on. Posted by: Young Dan | May 7 2025 13:31 utc | 268 I’m half curious to start running a tally of new nicknames saying exactly the same things exactly the same way. I wonder, do they use an LLM to come up with new names too? Posted by: boneless | May 7 2025 13:46 utc | 269 I figured the “former minister” probably worked under Yeltsin, and I was right. Looks like it took a couple of years for him to get cleaned out, but that was 23 years ago. Putin didn’t go for his plan to hand over Gazprom to the vulture capitalists. Now he lives in Lithuania, and ekes out a living trashing Russia, it appears. Posted by: wagelaborer | May 7 2025 16:27 utc | 270
The very low number of death from these bombings indicates IMU that it is not attacks on those residential blocks you see, it is fragments of defensive rockets and some Russian munitions, damaged on deviated flightpath. Posted by: MAKK | May 7 2025 17:30 utc | 271 “VVP is un-goadable” Posted by: Perimetr | May 7 2025 18:53 utc | 272 The SBU is very competent. Ironically, they have way more Soviet/KGB heritage than any of the Russian agencies. Posted by: Nordic ned | May 7 2025 18:59 utc | 273 ▪️Airborne assault aircraft are clearing Chapayev Street in Tyotkino, where the Ukrainian Armed Forces infantry had previously managed to break through. Fierce fighting is underway. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 7 2025 19:08 utc | 274 ▪️Airborne assault aircraft are clearing Chapayev Street in Tyotkino, where the Ukrainian Armed Forces infantry had previously managed to break through. Fierce fighting is underway. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 7 2025 19:10 utc | 275 Russian agents ARE incompetent and have more than demonstrated that. I genuinely think they are not trained to operate in a totally hostile environment like that. They’re used to peacetime sloppiness. Posted by: Maverick Top Gun | May 7 2025 19:20 utc | 276 Lord Of War again, I think not quoting any third party. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 7 2025 19:58 utc | 277 Daily DS update: https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055 Posted by: Anonymous | May 7 2025 19:59 utc | 278 More loyalty and unity of purpose:
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/hmelnitskaya/1746619551-sproba-vtechi-z-ttsk-u-hmelnitskomu-cholovik-vistribnuv-iz-vikna (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 7 2025 20:11 utc | 279 YetAnotherAnon | May 7 2025 19:58 utc | 277 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 7 2025 20:15 utc | 280 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 7 2025 20:15 utc | 280 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 7 2025 20:26 utc | 281 @ Nordic ned | May 7 2025 18:59 utc | 273 Posted by: boneless | May 7 2025 20:33 utc | 282 Does a drone have to land on the Victory Day Parade in Red Square before VVP takes definitive action against the US generals at Weisbaden who continue to direct daily attacks against Russia? Posted by: rk | May 7 2025 22:17 utc | 283 Would someone please provide a link to an article or video that outlines the economic motivations for the the Ukraine conflict? Posted by: arthur brogard | May 7 2025 22:42 utc | 285 The little girl asks: “Daddy, what does incompetent idiocy by a fool look like?” Posted by: idiocy | May 7 2025 23:27 utc | 286 The Putin-haters here have over-egged the pudding, but they do have a fair point … what possible benefit does Putin see from a unilateral ceasefire? Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 7 2025 23:57 utc | 287 Posted by: arthur brogard | May 7 2025 22:42 utc | 285 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 8 2025 0:03 utc | 288 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 7 2025 23:57 utc | 287 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 8 2025 0:08 utc | 289 The Putin-haters here have over-egged the pudding, but they do have a fair point … what possible benefit does Putin see from a unilateral ceasefire? Posted by: HERMIUS | May 8 2025 0:09 utc | 290 while RU follows:”Keep men, lose land: land can be retaken. Keep land, lose men: both land and men are lost.” and continues to slowly collapse a huge country, Ukraine + backers mostly do the opposite of ”focus on using propaganda to serve military operation, never use military operation to serve propaganda” in order to deceive their western audience about the reality. Posted by: CHIFFRE | May 8 2025 0:43 utc | 291 Posted by: HERMIUS | May 8 2025 0:09 utc | 290 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 8 2025 0:49 utc | 292 the Bum’s Rush is full-on once more: Gen Kellogg has indicated Kiev’s willingness to Freeze the Conflict and retreat 15km from the current front-line in order to establish a 30km wide demilitarized zone “that you can actually monitor and observe,” according to Gen Kellogg. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 8 2025 1:14 utc | 293 On top of which, JD, addressing a Munich Leaders summit in D.C. said, in reference to VVP’s *core issues*, “The Russians are asking for a cetain set of requirements, a certain set of concessions, in order to end the conflict. We think they’re asking for too much.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 8 2025 1:28 utc | 294 DJT *heard* what Russia’s terms were but did not *listen.* Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 8 2025 1:36 utc | 295 Moreover, DJT needs Congressional neocons to help pass his reconciliation bill in mid-July, so the U.S.’s legislative cycle still governs its foreign policy. DJT has to please various masters right now and make sure no Republicans prance. Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 8 2025 1:41 utc | 296 DS had a second update for the day, showing a loss of 3.6 kmsq for the day. Counterattack by UFA took a position in Lyptsi from the RFA (Kharkov buffer zone area). Netting the 11.5 minus 3.6, makes the actual day worse. Only 7.9 kmsq taken. Posted by: Anonymous | May 8 2025 2:19 utc | 297 The Putin apologists remind me of Trump excusers. Whenever he does something dumb it must be 5D chess. If there weren’t a ceasefire, they would say that was the right policy. Conversely if there is one. Some of them even defended the failed attack on Kiev at the beginning of the war as some sort of sooper seekrit good idea. Posted by: Anonymous | May 8 2025 2:22 utc | 298 Afraid your posts landed at end of page… Posted by: Newbie | May 8 2025 2:51 utc | 299 @Anonymous Posted by: Featherless | May 8 2025 3:26 utc | 300 |
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