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May 16, 2025
Ukraine – Negotiation Failure Plus Other Items

After some diplomatic gyrations, talks between the Russian Federation and Ukraine took place today in Istanbul, Turkey.

The Russian side had sent largely same delegation which had negotiated with Ukraine in March and April 2022. It sees the current negotiations as a continuation of the older ones, provided that new facts on the ground are taken into account.

The Ukrainian delegation was headed by its Minister of Defense Rustem Umerov. Its task was to demand an immediate ceasefire and to prepare a meeting between the presidents of the two countries.

The talks ended after just two hours.

The Russian side is said to have demanded a Ukrainian retreat from the four oblast the Russians have largely conquered and integrated into their country.

The Ukrainian side demanded an immediate ceasefire, the return of children the Russians had removed from the areas involved in military operations and the exchange of all prisoners (of which Russia has many more than Ukraine). It is obvious that Ukrainian side is not interested (yet) in making peace.

Both sides rejected the other side's demands and that was it. For now …

The balance of power in the war is clearly on the Russian side. The Ukrainian army will thus continue to bleed and lose on the battlefield.

Another exchange of dead soldiers also occurred today. Thirty four corpse of Russia soldiers were exchanged against 909 Ukrainian ones. The rather absurd relation of 1 to 27 has been the case for quite a while. Indeed it seems that Russian side has limited the number of Ukrainian corpses it is willing to release per exchange to 909.


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There are three reasons that contribute to the strong divergence of the numbers of dead on each side.

  • For the Ukrainian side the evacuation of dead (and wounded) soldiers is not a priority.
  • The Russian side is moving forwards winning control of areas that the Ukrainian side has lost. This allows to collect all dead while not being under fire.
  • The Ukrainian losses are in general much higher than the Russian ones.

Lieutenant-General Andrey Mordvichev, who the Ukrainians had claimed to have killed on March 19 2022, has become the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Ground Forces in the rank of a Colonel-General.

The Ukrainian government 'lost' over $700 million buying arms and munitions which were never delivered or unusable.

How Ukraine lost hundreds of millions on arms deals gone wrong (archived) – Financial Times, May 16 2025
Desperate to source munitions, Kyiv paid foreign brokers for weapons and shells that were sometimes unusable or never arrived

A Financial Times investigation, based on leaked Ukrainian state documents, court filings and dozens of interviews with procurement officials, weapons dealers and manufacturers, and detectives, has uncovered how hundreds of millions of dollars Kyiv paid to foreign arms intermediaries to secure vital military equipment has gone to waste over the past three years of war.

To date, Ukraine has paid out $770mn in advance to foreign arms brokers for weapons and ammunition that have not been delivered, according to figures from Ukraine’s Ministry of Defence, as well as documents seen by the FT.

Most the deals have (presumably) involved large bribes.

Comments

That said, the Russian economy does face serious structural challenges that are already difficult to manage.
Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 3:33 utc | 200

Relatively speaking their challenges pale in comparison to every western country. We should be so lucky as to have Russia’s problems.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 17 2025 3:55 utc | 201

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 3:33 utc | 200
RE: what DJT is told/what his advisors know
“The Russian economy does face serious structural challenges that are already difficult to manage. If I know this, then so do Trump’s advisors—the same people who help craft his public stance. Putin is undoubtedly aware as well, but neither his government nor the aligned media are likely to broadcast just how serious those challenges really are.”
The people who craft DJT’s public stance have fed him falsehoods about casualty numbers and other war-related matters, which unfailingly make it seem that Russia is desperate for the war to end or is on its last legs. But the information many of us collate, curate & synthesize from well-sourced non-western venues does not jibe at all w/ DJT’s utterances.
DJT believes additional sanctions will hasten Moscow to an unfavorable negotiation, but sanctions have not, to date, had the intended impact on Russia financially. So when DJT makes these utterances, he seems to be reading from the script of negative assessments of Russia, as w/ the casualty numbers, etc.
Even IMF projections for Russia’s economic growth for the rest of 2025 have ticked robustly upward. That is of course something DJT will never say.
I’m not altogether sure that DJT’s advisors have diligently drilled down into the details to the extent that some of our colleagues on this site and others have done. As with Collective Biden, many of the advisors seem to work from Regime Media reports in the west: Politico, nytimes, The Economist, FT—plenty of biased sources.
So DJT makes public utterances which are designed to make us believe that Russia is desperately scurrying about, eager for a deal, that VVP is “tired,” etc.
I think this is a variant of DJT-speak: he is Trump-splainin’
Which is a form of trash talk as he tries to position his adversary before swooping in for the jugular.
It is not working, because VVP is un-positionable (just as he is ungoadable.)
So the magic DJT has worked on others is not working on VVP.
Plus—there may only be 3% reality behind DKT’s utterances.
That is no small thing.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 3:56 utc | 202

Trump won WW2. Well he could have.
That’s why he needs a Big Beautiful Marching Band parade. Has to be bigger than Putin’s …. Maybe he too will invite Xi. To show him a Big Beautiful USAUSAUSA parade
https://x.com/actualidamundo/status/1923040865569607791

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 17 2025 3:59 utc | 203

@ James M. 199
And don’t forget those washing machine chips the Russkies got to use in them Iskanders.
Them Wasteland sanctions just work like a charm don’t they?
And the Russkies will be plum out of artillery shells in the next couple of days too. “Serious structural challenges” . . .
Roger that!

Posted by: bones 🦴 | May 17 2025 4:08 utc | 204

Posted by: TJandTheBear | May 17 2025 3:55 utc | 204
Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 3:33 utc | 200
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 3:56 utc | 205
RE: what DJT utters publicly
<< The truest thing DJT has said about the war in Ukraine was on Air Force One, speaking off the cuff, when a reporter asked him “what concessions” Russia was willing to make to bring about peace. This was just before Witkoff’s 3rd visit to Moscow. DJT said, “Russia’s concession is not to swallow up all of Ukraine.” The implication being, of course, that continuing to prosecute the war meant that Russia would certainly prevail militarily. It was an honest & spontaneous in-the-moment assessment that really resonated. That's not something DJT is going to say every day or even ever again. But it was a statement that carried a lot of ballast.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 4:16 utc | 205

Thanks for the update on the situation, B! I’m guessing the outcome is not a surprise for you! Lol!
As I’ve been saying, this will be resolved on the battlefield. How much land is ZioJew boy and his paymasters willing to lose?

Posted by: Kay | May 17 2025 4:22 utc | 206

Larry Johnson on Judge Nap practically said that Lindsey Graham got “eight figure” kickbacks from Ukraine connections and that explained his uber-hawkish attitude. I don’t see much about this online.
Comments? Is this going to come to light?

Posted by: BillB | May 17 2025 4:39 utc | 207

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 3:12 utc | 195
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Obvious AI-generated content until the last line.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 5:02 utc | 208

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 3:12 utc | 195
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Obvious AI-generated content until the last line.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 5:02 utc | 209

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 4:35 utc | 210
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More AI content.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 5:06 utc | 210

“DJT believes additional sanctions will hasten Moscow to an unfavorable negotiation…” @205
I’d suggest you’re making a significant assumption there. The truth is, none of us actually knows what Donald Trump believes or why he says certain things. He’s a master of distraction and ambiguity—so why would we assume his statements reflect clear strategic thinking? More likely, it’s just typical bluster.
Also, this statement: “Sanctions have not, to date, had the intended impact on Russia financially” doesn’t mean they’ve had zero serious negative effects. Those two outcomes are not mutually inclusive. An impact less than intended is still a negative effect. And we are not privy to all the inside information that Putin has.
And when someone refers to IMF projections to support an argument, it’s interesting how that’s acceptable-even as others (like myself) are ridiculed for citing “unreliable Western sources.” Yet b and many others regularly quote Politico, NYTimes, The Economist, and Financial Times as sources without issue. That’s cherry-picking what matters and when.
As for Trump and his advisors—of course I’m familiar with them. No one here just “beamed in from a spaceship.” We all know the language, ideology, and narratives involved. Let’s not pretend it’s all new terrain. This isn’t Sesame Street.
Now, if I’m being told I haven’t “drilled down into the details” like some others here apparently have, that’s fair—as long as we apply that standard evenly. So let’s flip it: Can anyone here point to non-Western expert sources or MoA-aligned pundits saying this war will be resolved in the next few months? That serious negotiations are imminent? That a durable ceasefire is just around the corner? Or that Russia is on the brink of a swift, total victory—and here’s the strong evidence to prove it?
Anyone?
I genuinely don’t understand what’s being argued anymore, or why some are so quick to dismiss reasonable, well-sourced analyses. No one can predict the future—but many respected analysts are offering plausible, evidence-based scenarios. Why reflexively attack those?

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 5:09 utc | 211

Is this going to come to light?
Posted by: BillB | May 17 2025 4:39 utc | 211
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It comes to light, and then what?
Children are being starved to death after being mass murdered over the last year.
Where exactly is justice going to come from?
Graham’s golf buddy, Trump?
In the scheme of problems in the world, a bit of Senatorial graft is irrelevant.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 5:09 utc | 212

@ Roger | May 17 2025 5:09 utc | 215 who thinks that textual description of something equals reality…those stink tanks are paid to crank out the myth you so eagerly suck up and feel the urge to share….a bevin for you
If you aren’t paid to throw sand into readers’ eyes and you do so out of malice, vanity or stupidity, not even the plea of economic necessity excuses your egregious behaviour.
Kindly leave the stage- to honest actors.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 17 2025 5:19 utc | 213

Obvious AI-generated content until the last line.
Oh, of course — you’d know. Being the resident expert on everything others type. What is it now, hidden cameras? Psychic surveillance? Do tell.
And even if it were AI-generated and/or edited for clarity — what difference would it make if the content stands on its own? Or do you imagine people just sit at their computers with DeepSeek open, doing nothing, waiting for it to say something profound?
Then what — they copy and paste it straight to MoA? Sure. Why not. It is Sesame Street here, after all.
My next contribution will be from a Russian about the potential for successful negotiations and for a ceasefire.

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 5:22 utc | 214

Oh, of course — you’d know. Being the resident expert on everything others type. What is it now, hidden cameras? Psychic surveillance? Do tell.
Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 5:22 utc | 218
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I use AI every day in my work.
You do know that there is AI checking software, right?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 5:38 utc | 215

I mean, Amazon, which I work with, has some of the best AI detection technology.
They can’t be publishing AI-published books as human-written.
None of this is a secret; laymen who use AI fraudulently are unaware.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 5:46 utc | 216

Why Ukraine-Russia Peace Talks Are Doomed – And This War May Last for Years or Decades – A Russian Perspective
The prospect of peace between Russia and Ukraine remains elusive—and according to Russian political analyst Vitaly Ryumshin, it may not just be elusive, but structurally impossible under current conditions. With new speculation around possible ongoing Istanbul talks—reportedly pushed by Trump allies and involving both Zelensky and Putin—the mainstream narrative briefly teased a potential breakthrough. But upon closer inspection, the likelihood of a meaningful or lasting ceasefire appears near zero.
1. The Stage Is Set for Failure—Again
All eyes recently turned to Istanbul, where Russia and Ukraine were allegedly preparing to restart direct negotiations—the first since spring 2022. The hype escalated rapidly after Putin responded to a Western-backed proposal for a 30-day ceasefire. Zelensky initially rejected it, then reversed course under apparent pressure from Donald Trump—though only after attaching his own preconditions, demanding top-level talks “immediately or not at all,” while also threatening additional sanctions if Russia didn’t comply. It has played out like a Keystone Cops movie.
None of this signals genuine intent by any involved party to negotiate. Rather, it seems to be more political theatre—performative diplomacy meant to appease domestic audiences and allies, rather than advance actual de-escalation. The same disconnect that’s plagued previous efforts is firmly in place: both sides are posturing, and neither is engaging in good faith.
Russia, despite making slow but steady gains on the battlefield, is under no pressure to negotiate. Ukraine, despite weakening positions and morale, is defending it’s territory on the front lines inflicting casualties on the Russians, and continues to act ‘as if’ it holds the upper hand. Meanwhile, key NATO players like the UK, France, and Germany talk tough—insisting Russia must lose and Crimea be returned—but offer no coherent diplomatic exit ramp. While Trump continues to be an erratic blowhard of little consequence despite being a major party to this conflict-pretending he is a peacemaker instead.
Nothing will be progressed while all the parties continually deny the truth of what is involved and what has happened.
As Ryumshin points out, each side seems more focused on political optics than substance. Zelensky seeks to avoid Trump’s wrath without conceding anything meaningful. Putin sees little value in being a prop for Trump’s American Hero campaign. Neither side trusts the other, and both are only angling for short term tactical advantages rather than a sustained settlement or peace.
2. Every Ceasefire Attempt Has Failed—This One Will Too
Recent history offers little hope. A series of failed ceasefires—on naval corridors, energy strikes, and symbolic occasions like Easter and Victory Day—have all collapsed under the weight of unrealistic expectations, ambiguous language, and an absence of monitoring mechanisms. Not to mention a total lack of commitment by everyone.
Even now, the so-called “Istanbul process” lacks a formal agenda, articulated unified goals, or any enforcement structure. The result? Each party defines “peace” on its own terms. The U.S. has juggled conflicting peace tracks for months, pretending to shape a compromise from irreconcilable positions it refuses to acknowledge. But without shared definitions or political will, it’s just talk.
In Ryumshin’s words, this is not diplomacy but brinkmanship—a cynical spectacle where each side hopes the other will walk away first. And if the Istanbul talks even happen, they are almost certain to end in the same deadlock.
3. Why a Long War Is More Likely
Beyond the dysfunction of diplomacy lies a deeper structural truth: neither side appears capable of nor interested in ending the war soon. Ukraine lacks the military strength to reclaim its lost territories, and the political space to concede anything without collapsing internally. Russia, on the other hand, believes time is on its side, and is unlikely to accept any Western-brokered ceasefire that doesn’t reflect its battlefield momentum-and it’s original goals. Goals that go far beyond any ability for any government in Ukraine to provide. Ukraine cannot tell NATO or the U.S. what they must do to bring peace to this major Cold War civilisational conflict-nor how to settle nuclear arms disputes between the U.S. and Russia.
Some observers still believe a diplomatic breakthrough could be near. But for that to happen, several stars would have to align: an earth-shattering shift in U.S. leadership and policy, a recalibration of the Ukrainian strategy, and a recognition of Russia’s red lines that have been in place long before the 2022 invasion-going back to first 2014 and before that to at least 2007.
As it stands, none of that is on the horizon.
The result is a grim but necessary conclusion: a negotiated settlement is not only unlikely in the short term—it may be impossible for years. This war could drag on well into the 2030s, especially if neither side achieves a decisive advantage and Western powers remain committed to a zero-sum framework and their continued deceits.
Without significant global pressure on both sides to compromise, we are left with stalemate masquerading as strategy.

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 5:56 utc | 217

The people who craft DJT’s public stance have fed him falsehoods about casualty numbers and other war-related matters, which unfailingly make it seem that Russia is desperate for the war to end or is on its last legs.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 3:56 utc | 205

Oh don’t worry too hard … it’s very much a two way relationship … I’m sure Trump feeds his own falsehoods right back to those advisors. He gives as good as he gets 🤨

Posted by: Tel | May 17 2025 5:56 utc | 218

Posted by: circumspect | May 16 2025 22:30 utc | 142
Its pretty obvious to me that nothing short of complete demolition of Ukraine will stop this war as long as the current military and civilian leadership is in place. Destruction on the order of Germany after WW II.

I’ve been saying that since March 2022.
Wait to see the bombing of Kiev and Lvov, once ukrops are at the weakiest.
You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
This is the 2nd Chechen war expanded exponentially to the size of the Ukraines.
With same result.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 17 2025 6:12 utc | 219

I have no substantive comment at this time on the ‘Long War’ between US/NATO and the Russian Federation other than the ‘by now obvious fact’ that:
US/NATO cannot win and the Russian Federation cannot lose.

Posted by: Don Firineach | May 17 2025 6:26 utc | 220

Destroying Ukraine won’t end this.
They will go back to work on Georgia or maybe use Finland.
A NATO collapse of some sort will be necessary.
With Poland now trying to steal their election Romania style, we’re getting closer to a European crisis.
However big you think the problem is when it comes to the West, it is magnitudes greater.
As I often say, it will have to get a lot worse before it gets better.
I think Russia knows that. That, I believe, is why they have two complete armies with the latest kit waiting in the rear.
The only way out of Europe’s economic and social problems may be war.
Cull the fighting age men and reset the social order. It’s been done many times before.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 6:30 utc | 221

I cannot say enough good things about the data in Simplicious’s recent post.
https://open.substack.com/pub/simplicius76/p/russia-stands-firm-in-istanbul-as
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Did you know that much of Russia’s recent losses are likely due to expiring contracts, not battlefield losses?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 6:37 utc | 222

Roger | May 17 2025 5:09 utc | 215
…genuinely don’t understand what’s being argued anymore, or why some are so quick to dismiss reasonable, well-sourced analyses
Maybe because I’m Australian I’m familiar with dickheads talking shit at a bar.
It might help to think of this place as a wide-verandah country pub in the middle of semi arid bumfuk.
Back in PeterAu days, males started drinking at the pub maybe around 14-15 and would drink besides the same faces night after night after night after night for the next 60+ years.
Some quiet blokes sit in the corner watching, not saying much. But when they do say something, it’s likely to be cryptic … and it’d be worth your time to listen.
Others drop by and contribute reliable information on expected cattle auction prices and crop yields. People listen.
And others are loud garrulous galahs. Never shut up. But you learn to just ignore them.
I suggest you think about who is posting replies to you and if their opinion is worth more than a cockatoo squawk.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 17 2025 6:50 utc | 223

Western narrative komissars are running out of doomsday adjectives for their girlish [Footnote 1] tranches of sanctions.
Expulsion from SWIFT was supposed to be ‘nuclear’. Then every new tranche of sanctions is ‘bone crushing’, ‘from hell’, ‘punitive’.
European leaders used to be warlords, manly and violent, fighting each other for millenia [Footnote 2]. Now they are childless homosexuals married to their mothers or feminized dunces or even right away ‘fronthole’ persons (lol!) that cannot contemplate having a real fight if they are so angry about something.
This is what decades of liberal consolidation and ossification did to Europe.
Footnote 1: Economic sanctions among nations are the exact equivalent of teenage girls cancelling one of them for kissing some former boyfriend of some other girl.
Footnote 2: Europe have been colonizing and exploiting the RoW since the Romans because of population density. The Western European Peninsula was the place on Earth with the highest population density when the human species started its exponential phase of population growth. This led to intense competition and resistance to pathogens. This in turn led to accelerated technological progress and the capacity to genocide aboriginals by diseasing them.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 17 2025 6:51 utc | 224

“I use AI every day in my work.”
What work? You’re here all day, every day, wasting your life with attention-seeking trolling — and wasting everyone else’s time too.
“I mean, Amazon, which I work with, has some of the best AI detection technology.”
Great. Post your “results” to a website — let’s all have a look. Some people clearly have way too much time on their hands.
Also, curious: which AI software are you using to determine what’s AI? Because last I checked, AI doesn’t plagiarize copyrighted text — people do. Thinking AI works like a gun only proves the opposite.

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 7:02 utc | 225

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 17 2025 6:51 utc | 227
Your description of modern European leaders sounds a lot like a large quantity of past European leaders as far back as the Roman empire days. Blue bloods have always been freaks. Even the handful of true warlords in the bunch.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 17 2025 7:06 utc | 226

Re Bob the Pope puts pressure on VVP
Hows about he has a test run with Bibi?
Palestine being biblical bible holy lands n all that.
Once he’s got a ruin on the board, maybe then he can “pressure” Putin
Posted by: Melaleuca | May 17 2025 0:41 utc | 174
Indeed, what credibility would it bring to Rome to be fighting for both the Muslim and Christian lives being exterminated by Israel. But no, perhaps due to the Jesuit history deriving from “converted” Jews, or not wanting to offend the banker class, either way the Pope is a typical western politician, not a religious leader.

Posted by: Organic | May 17 2025 7:11 utc | 227

“Back in PeterAu days, males started drinking at the pub maybe around 14-15 and would drink besides the same faces night after night after night after night for the next 60+ years.”
Ah yes — starting on the booze at 14 and heavy drinking with the same faces for 60 years. That’s not culture, it’s alcohol-related neurocognitive disorder — the medical term for brain damage caused by long-term drinking. Which definitely fits the unstable delinquent PeterAu personality here.
And for the record: I don’t drink, and I’m not interested in arguing with drunks. You can keep that tradition to yourself. Certainly explains the main reason why I “…genuinely don’t understand” —and have no wish to.

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 7:15 utc | 228

Is it true that Amazon has some of the best AI detection technology? Not exactly — at least not in the way people often claim. Amazon is not known for leading the field in AI content detection.
Amazon is a leader in developing and applying artificial intelligence (AI) across its business operations — including:
product recommendations
Alexa (its voice assistant)
automated warehouses
fraud detection
AWS (Amazon Web Services), which offers machine learning tools to other businesses
However, when it comes to AI-generated content detection (like identifying text written by ChatGPT or other LLMs), Amazon is not known for being a top player in that specific field.
Who does lead in AI content detection?
More specialized companies and research groups are working on this, including:
OpenAI (developed but later retired their own AI detection tool due to inaccuracy)
Turnitin (used in schools and universities, now includes AI writing detection)
GPTZero, ZeroGPT, and Hive (third-party tools that scan for AI-generated content)
None of these tools are 100% accurate. In fact, many generate false positives (flagging human-written text as AI) or false negatives (missing AI-written content entirely).
So what does the person likely mean by “I work with Amazon”?
It could mean they use Amazon Web Services (AWS), which includes some machine learning infrastructure.
Or it could just be bluff. Many people invoke big company names like Amazon to sound credible.
Bottom Line:
Amazon is not known for leading the field in AI content detection. They’re a powerhouse in AI broadly, but not in reliably spotting whether text was written by a human or a machine. If someone such as LoveDonbass claims their authority based on that — you’re right to question it.

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 7:27 utc | 229

“The suppression itself, a form of censorship, can convincingly mimic a stalemate, if that is what the Regime Media wants to boost. A stalemate is what they want to boost.” @200
I haven’t referenced — nor even considered — any so-called “regime media.” That’s more in the realm of b and others quoted here in their articles or expert podcasts. I reserve the right to refer to any source, of course, but in this case it’s beside the point. I’ve simply shared information and ideas — what you choose to do with them is entirely up to you.
I’m not here to win a popularity contest — that kind of mindset fuels people like Trump, not me. I’m here because this topic interests me. It’s really that simple.

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 7:50 utc | 230

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 7:15 utc | 231
A pretty recent “tradition” and in fact pretty much rubbish.
When my father was young, drinking age was 21 and he told me that the older fellows looked out for the younger ones.
Under-age drinking is strictly controlled in pubs – almost impossible for a youngster to drink in a pub.
They do drink of course but that means that older kids – over 18 buy the drink and they drink at home or in parks etc. The big change in Australian drinking culture is that girls get drunk. When I was young they very rarely happened.

Posted by: watcher | May 17 2025 7:55 utc | 231

The war will end sooner than you think.
Oh? And when exactly would that be?
People aren’t as smart as they think.

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 7:55 utc | 232

Posted by: Steven P Manning | May 16 2025 23:33 utc | 155
Putin is preparing to really bend over backwards to his esteemed Western partners this time.
<=Russia is not interested in annexing Ukrainian territory into Russia.. Territorial gain was not the goal of the SMO. Instead Russia wants to use the SMO to serve as a means to construct a proper, sufficient and enforceable security environment; one that Russia can rely on to keep external forces from using well positioned Ukraine as a weapon to destroy Russia. Ukraine leadership is 100% dependent on external resources. The Trojans have taken over the Ukrainian government, the Trojans control Ukrainian politics, the Trojans control the information environment in Ukraine. and the Trojans are managing Ukraine from Troy. So Ukraine has no representation at the negotiating table; all the Ukraine negotiators have been appointed by the Powers that Be in Troy. Ukraine can offer Russia nothing Russia wants or needs or has come to negotiate. Troy's leaders have worked since 1946 to shape NATO and other organizations into get Russia machines. It took much planning, money and effort for Troy to establish conditions along the Boundary of Russia that would allow the Powers that Be in Troy to invade, capture, destroy and take over Russia. Troy will give up Ukraine if they have to, but they will not give up the goal of invading, capturing and destroying Russia and it is that goal that Russia seeks a defense against. The last thing Troy wants, is for Russia to find a way to prevent the invasion, capture and destruction of Russia by Troy.. It really does not matter to Troy if Russia gives up a lot of its gains or keeps its gains, cause the territory of Ukraine is not the issue. Destroying Russia is the goal.
So no matter the outcome of negotiations with Ukraine, Russia cannot achieve its goals by negotiating with Ukraine. This is true, because Ukraine and its leaderships are just puppets being animated and manipulated by the powers that be in Troy.
Russia is not likely to agree to anything that does not reduce the Troy Threat and Troy controlled Ukraine cannot, even if the negotiators want to, offer Russia any concession that would weaken Troy’s chance to invade, capture and destroy Russia.
What Russia has captured of Ukraine will remain Russian Territory because it reduces the ability of Troy to use Ukraine against Russia.
So what can Russia do to secure itself against the Troy Threat? If it partners up with Troy or one of its members Russia will be played until the partner has moved Russian into position for the kill.
If Russia isolates itself from the world Troy will find a way to get its horse into Russia.
So Russia has no incentive to negotiate with Ukraine. None not any at all.
IMO, Russia stands a better chance to establish a defense against Troy if it concentrates on taking control of things useful to, or needed by, Troy: dedollarization, excluding Troy from the Eastern market and by gaining control over things Troy needs and by using that control to prevent Troy from advancing (i.e. like refusing to sell what Troy needs or by doing things that weaken Troy’s ability to advance against Russia and by deploying weapons that can automatically respond to Troy offensives against Russia).
Its a stand off, Troy wants to destroy Russia and Russia wants to continue to exist. Even if the matter of Ukraine is settled, nothing will change for Russia.. Troy intends to destroy Russia.
What would happen if Russia were to be merged into Troy?
What would happen if Troy were to be merged into Russia?

Posted by: snake | May 17 2025 8:39 utc | 233

Simplicius’ latest:
“We didn’t say five. We said eight.”
Where are the doomers now, who claimed Putin would capitulate?

Roger: The same place they were before. Until a final settlement is made all claims that Putin didn’t capitulate are moot. In the meantime people will have their opinions. What’s the point of arguing and dismissing any or all of them? Where does it get S or anyone else? No where. It’s premature Trump Blather:101
Russia essentially threatening that it is willing to fight forever to achieve its aims:
Roger: This surely supports the possibility the war could continue for more than a decade and confirms the opinions of many who think that way.
Putin’s March quote: “We have reason to believe that we are set to finish them off,” Mr. Putin said, adding: “People in Ukraine need to realize what is going on.”
Roger: It’s now May. Obviously the facts are Russia has not finished Ukraine off. All national leaders lie and cannot be taken at their word. Putin, Zelensky, Trump are all cut from the same cloth during war time. It’s spin.
Yesterday Syrsky announced that the Russian contingent in Ukraine has now reached a whopping 640,000. Also, note his mention that Russia has transitioned the conflict into a ‘war of attrition’,
Roger: 640,000 vs 150,000 in Feb 2022 and still Russia cannot close out this war without Negotiations? Since late 2022 all over the blogosphere and pro-Russian circles the Ukraine war was defined as a “war of attrition” whereas here we have the Military head saying they have only just NOW shifted to that kind of action. Is Syrsky wrong?
In 2023, Bloomberg announced Russia’s troop count at 420,000: In 2024, head of Ukrainian military intelligence Vadim Skibitzky revealed to the Economist the number had reached 514,000: and now 640,000 — The most obvious question follows:
Roger: Jesus Christ how many do they need to knock over a dilapidated Ukrainian under manned under armed dad’s army? Enough. Cannot read anymore of this overinflated hyperbole.
Simplicius, S, is no better than an overpaid Advertising Agency selling Incontinence Pads or Hamburgers.

Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 8:53 utc | 234

Posted by: snake | May 17 2025 8:39 utc | 236
The Trojans never invaded anyone in the Iliad. It was the little bitch Agamemnon who had the Greeks invade troy because his trophy wife cuckolded him. Better to call the west Greeks.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 17 2025 9:21 utc | 235

Well after the Istanbul hype we are getting presidential elections in Romania and it seems in Poland. The lead candidate in Romania has accused Macron of meddling in his country’s affairs. Things have gone from bad to terrible for the French president. With disapproval of his presidency running at 70%, he submitted himself to a three hour talk-a-thon where he was assaulted by various experts. It seems the result was so bad that the only com to escape from the Elysée was eery silence. Then of course the cocaine envelope scandal has made into the mainstream press. People are waking up I find that we are living under a coked dictator, who doesn’t know at all what he is doing. Put into power by a socialist cabal that gravitation around a convicted felon, people reporter Mimi Marchand,Macron’s days are numbered. He can redissolve the assembly in July so if the elections are lost, I think so is the 5th republic. The end result of the Macron presidency but it gets worse. People are stating that if Macron had stated after his talks in Moscow that he would veto any Ukrainian membership of NATO in front of the press there would have been no war. Macron will be booted out eventually but with a dead Ukraine on his conscious (if he has one).

Posted by: Stierlitz | May 17 2025 9:35 utc | 236

Hypothetical future rare mineral resources are a distraction from an immediate current real resource that the Eurotards are eager to get their hands on : electricity. Stable, 24/7, independent from wind and sunshine fluctuations.
Ukraine and its NIMBY NPPs.
Already connected to the euro electrical system and its divine realm of unlimited speculation and corruption…

Posted by: Asian Frog | May 17 2025 10:29 utc | 237

And if you want to get cheap electricity, you get your supplier’s internal consumption to severely shrink : a long war destroying all the industry and a good part of the population (those useless eaters).
A master europlan, that explains why they never gave the Ukraine the means to actually win…

Posted by: Asian Frog | May 17 2025 10:35 utc | 238

in the new sanctions package, EU citizens are being sanctioned for the first time.
In this case, Röber from Anti-Spiegel and Alina Lipp, both EU citizens with German citizenship.
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Details please;

Posted by: Exile | May 17 2025 10:52 utc | 239

“Posted by: snake | May 17 2025 8:39 utc | 236
The Trojans never invaded anyone in the Iliad. It was the little bitch Agamemnon who had the Greeks invade troy because his trophy wife cuckolded him. Better to call the west Greeks.”
Posted by: Badjoke | May 17 2025 9:21 utc | 239
You, obviously, have never read the Iliad.
It was Agamemnon’s brother’s Menelaus wife, Helen, that was hypnotized by Aphrodite to fall in love with Paris (a Trojan prince)and he took her to Troy ; the Goddess did that because Paris awarded her the golden apple of discord beating out Hera and Athena and Helen was Paris’s prize.

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 11:10 utc | 240

Posted by: Exile | May 17 2025 10:52 utc | 245

Assuming you understand German, this is probably the best source right now, an interview with Thomas Röper and Alina Lipp (20 minutes).
This is currently a speculation, the German “fact checker” Correctiv has announced this sneak peak from the upcoming sanctions package. We’ll know more by Tuesday when it is going to be officially presented. Röper expects other EU citizens to be on the list.
I agree with those who think this will be a major increase on the EUropean totalitarian scale: if this goes through, that’ll be a convenient way to silence dissenting voices and make anyone persona non grata: no access to money; cannot pay lawyers; cannot fight being on the sanctions list in court.

Posted by: Konami | May 17 2025 11:10 utc | 241

Posted by: Avtonom | May 16 2025 19:27 utc | 107
Hypothetically if the direct meeting happens between Z and VVP, will Russian side do a detailed security check of Z before the meeting ? I believe loser will bet more at the end.
I know its a silly question but what does protocol say ?

Posted by: KD | May 17 2025 11:10 utc | 242

“Simplicius, S, is no better than an overpaid Advertising Agency selling Incontinence Pads or Hamburgers.”
Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 8:53 utc | 237
You couldn’t carry Simplicius’s intellectual jockstrap; your adolescent ad hominens only illustrates the paucity of your faux argument.
If there is any ‘Intellectual Incontinence’ (TM) it lies within your soggy, angry and vacuous brain.

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 11:17 utc | 243

The Ukrainian puppet masters will keep adding to the butchers bill.
They believe that the consequences won’t travel up the strings.
Saving face when they instigated a proxy that they couldn’t win and more to the point can’t finish until Russia decides what the capitulation terms are
They know that they are pretty much completely defence and energy deprived.
But continue the charade of slaughter.
Evil morons.

Posted by: jpc | May 17 2025 11:24 utc | 244

Roger Dodger has won his 6 th, “The Most Retarded Post I Have Read Today”, by blaspheming alcohol to us bar partrons:
“Ah yes — starting on the booze at 14 and heavy drinking with the same faces for 60 years. That’s not culture, it’s alcohol-related neurocognitive disorder — the medical term for brain damage caused by long-term drinking. Which definitely fits the unstable delinquent PeterAu personality here.
And for the record: I don’t drink, and I’m not interested in arguing with drunks. You can keep that tradition to yourself. Certainly explains the main reason why I “…genuinely don’t understand” —and have no wish to.”
Posted by: Roger Dodger| May 17 2025 7:15 utc | 231
You didn’t have to tell me you ‘don’t drink’ as I already was aware of that fact as your posts are never humorous , they are always dark and numb shatteringly boring.
Roger Dodger go back to your own blog where you censor any one who disagrees with your point of view.
J

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 11:25 utc | 245

“Without significant global pressure on both sides to compromise, we are left with stalemate masquerading as strategy.”
Posted by: Roger Dodger| May 17 2025 5:56 utc | 220
With that statement there is no other conclusion that you are really fucked in the head.
The war is not a stalemate by any metric.
Go back to your censored blog; or have a stiff drink ; maybe that will wake up the sleeping neurons in your brain.

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 11:29 utc | 246

Am I wrong or do a number of PMs and officials have nightmares where they see themselves in front of a tribunal?

Posted by: Tom | May 17 2025 11:30 utc | 247

“@ Roger Dodger| May 17 2025 5:09 utc | 215 who thinks that textual description of something equals reality…those stink tanks are paid to crank out the myth you so eagerly suck up and feel the urge to share….a bevin for you”
————————————————————————————————————————–
“If you aren’t paid to throw sand into readers’ eyes and you do so out of malice, vanity or stupidity, not even the plea of economic necessity excuses your egregious behaviour.
Kindly leave the stage- to honest actors.”
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 17 2025 5:19 utc | 216
Agreed.
Roger Dodger is either: (a) a troll (b) a sober narcisstic moron
I would be guess (b) .

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 11:40 utc | 248

@Tom | May 17 2025 11:30 utc | 254

Am I wrong or do a number of PMs and officials have nightmares where they see themselves in front of a tribunal?

I don’t think you are wrong.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 17 2025 11:55 utc | 249

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 11:10 utc | 247
Nah I read it over 30 years ago and found it really boring. Something about the tale of a ‘captain save a hoe’ just does not grip my attention. Really pathetic shit. Either way I don’t remember the Trojans as having invaded anything.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 17 2025 11:58 utc | 250

“Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 11:10 utc | 247
Nah I read it over 30 years ago and found it really boring. Something about the tale of a ‘captain save a hoe’ just does not grip my attention. Really pathetic shit. Either way I don’t remember the Trojans as having invaded anything.”
Posted by: Badjoke | May 17 2025 11:58 utc | 258
You find a major, enduring Western classic as ‘ boring’; further, by calling it ‘pathetic’ -that idiocy says more about you than the tome.

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 12:30 utc | 251

Re the earlier post about Ukraine capturing a Russian CRAB anti-drone system – there should be some kind of remote kill switch or SOMETHING to fry electronics and/or encrypt the code in such vital kit. Maybe it exists already, of course.
You then get the issue of attackers trying to trigger the kill switch … uns so weiter…

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 17 2025 12:36 utc | 252

Warning, he’s pro U…. But I like his analyses…
Posted by: Anonymous | May 17 2025 11:31 utc | 255
Quelle surprise.

Posted by: James M. | May 17 2025 12:59 utc | 253

“WHY DON’T THE CEO’S OF BLACKROCK VOLUNTEER THEIR SONS AS CANNON FODDER TO THIS LOSING WAR IN UKRAINE?”
Posted by: Fortuna | May 17 2025 12:38 utc | 261
It’s a sign of weakness.
In the Roman Republic and then the Roman Empire if one wanted to be a public official-a tribune, an aedile, a praetor, questor, or censor one had to join the army and serve in the wars.. Without it there was no political office. hence, almost all aristocratic families , politicians knew about war first hand.
In the latter Roman Empire that fashion had lost its way and the Western Roman Empire employed barbarian proxies which, inevitably, turned against the Empire and destroyed it.
So for about 900 years the Romans held Imperium.
The US and the West have had Hegemony for about 45 years yet the US the West are using proxies armies early in their dominance which precludes any long term (900 years) Hegemony.
The US/West hegemony will be utterly vanquished in the next generation or so.

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 13:13 utc | 254

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 12:30 utc | 259
The bible is also boring and disjointed mess that people consider some amazing work because they were told to even if most never read it. They also think a banana taped to a wall is a masterpiece and a brilliant work of art.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 17 2025 13:14 utc | 255

President Camacho is angry, sent drones back to Black Sea. I’m guessing there’s going to be some action in Crimea. Ukr has turned the 1k prisoner exchange agreed yesterday into “maybe next week, we’ll see”
flightradar24.com/FORTE10/3a5f4129

Posted by: rk | May 17 2025 13:17 utc | 256

@ Anonymous
Since you aren’t even pretending anymore – fuck off with your banderite propaganda.

Posted by: boneless | May 17 2025 13:20 utc | 257

“Truth will ultimately prevail where there are pains taken to bring it to light. –George Washington (1794)
Thank you B for all the pains you take to bring Truth to light.
Excerpt from Larry Johnson’s free email bulletin/blog post:


Russia Promises to Double Down if Ukraine Does Not Take the Offer on the Table

By Larry C. Johnson on 16 May 2025
The Russian delegation reportedly told the Ukrainians that Ukrainian troops must vacate the four oblasts that are now part of the Russian Federation — i.e., Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia — before there can be any discussion of a possible ceasefire. If Ukraine does not take the deal now, the next Russian offer will be more onerous. According to the head of RT, Margarita Simonyon, the Russians informed their Ukrainian counterparts that the next demand will be that Ukraine vacate eight oblasts. This was not a bluff….
Russia is content to continue the war of attrition because the real threat is not Ukraine. It is the United States and its NATO allies. Ukraine is a pawn of the West, and the Russian leaders understand that.
Speaking of attrition, the Russians and Ukrainians are exchanging bodies of dead soldiers at a rate of 27 to 1, i.e. 27 Ukrainians for one Russian soldier…
https://sonar21.com/russia-promises-to-double-down-if-ukraine-does-not-take-the-offer-on-the-table/


We must remember that there are no permanent enemies….The supreme reality of our time is our indivisibility as children of God & our common vulnerability on this planet. -JFK

Posted by: WillSeymour | May 17 2025 13:27 utc | 258

Even IMF projections for Russia’s economic growth for the rest of 2025 have ticked robustly upward. That is of course something DJT will never say.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 4:16 utc | 207
And yet the IMF has never been a honest broker and works out of a cupboard of the CIA. Always has done.
When the IMF says your economy is doing well it normally means you are playing into Western hands.
The biggest dangers to the Russian economy right now are
a) The small deficit
And
b) Elvira Nabiullina the head of the Russian central bank.
Both are playing into US hands.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 17 2025 13:32 utc | 259

Posted by: rk | May 17 2025 13:17 utc | 265
The longer it goes the more CIA mercenaries and NATO special forces get killed. That is a gift to the world.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 17 2025 13:32 utc | 260

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 17 2025 6:12 utc | 222
RE: this is the 2nd Chechen war expanded exponentially
<< In a hurry to frame the conflict in Ukraine through a western lens, Regime Media imposed all the WWII tropes & characters on it: Sudetenland, appeasement, "the free world," Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. But nobody in the west was thinking of the Second Chechen War, because few people---Regime Media or not---know much about it beyond "Putin pulverized Grozny." Key, too: the Second Chechen War ended well for the Russia Federation and ultimately for the Chechen Republic. Regime Media in the West want to stay as far away as possible from comparing the conflict in Ukraine to the Second Chechen War, because they are fearful they will Speak It Into Existence---*It* being a victory for Russia which included a powerful reunion w/ Chechnya and how such a repetition might conceivably play out w/ Ukraine.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 13:42 utc | 261

Russian households and Russian businesses who save some of their income. The data hardly shows up anywhere.
The deficit is very small and the national debt is very small. So private sector cash savings are small and savings held in Russian bonds are small.
Consumer credit and household debt to GDP keeps rising. So it looks like Russians hardly save any of their income. Are taking on more bank lending debt.
However, Russia underwent a comprehensive pension reform in 2002 with a partial privatisation of the pension system. A lot of looks like it has been privatised.
Which means it would be very ironic via these private pension / saving companies have Russians saving in other countries bonds. Especially if it was US treasuries.
Because very clearly Russians are not saving in Russian bonds. Because the national debt is only 17% of GDP.
Where do Russians park their savings ??
Is there anybody from Russia at the bar who has sat down with these private pension companies and have a yearly statement that shows where their savings have been invested ??
In order to shed more light on it ?

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 17 2025 13:48 utc | 262

If I know this, then so do Trump’s advisors
Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 3:33 utc | 199

Oh, you again. This time under that name.
You know so much it’s not room for anyone else. Really, can’t you find other forums to pester?

Posted by: Avtonom | May 17 2025 13:55 utc | 263

“Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 12:30 utc | 259
The bible is also boring and disjointed mess that people consider some amazing work because they were told to even if most never read it. They also think a banana taped to a wall is a masterpiece and a brilliant work of art.”
Posted by: Badjoke | May 17 2025 13:14 utc | 264
I didn’t mention the Bible; I just quoted you about the Iliad-you said it was, ‘boring and pathetic”; I believe that description aptly describes your adolescent literary taste rather that of the Iliad.
What is the ‘fuck’ does bananas have to do with the Iliad?
You are unhinged.

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 13:58 utc | 264

will Russian side do a detailed security check of Z before the meeting ? I believe loser will bet more at the end.
I know its a silly question but what does protocol say ?
Posted by: KD | May 17 2025 11:10 utc | 249
Idk but personally I think the meeting between Putin and the piano player won’t happen until the latter has to sign the capitulation.

Posted by: Avtonom | May 17 2025 14:05 utc | 265

Sun of Alabama@271…..odd, Russia is so more advanced than the ‘west’ has the best of everything it needs and Russians still live pay cheque to pay cheque like all international indebted serfs and slaves…..
…..sadly, the only poor people with money to invest hang around MOA……likely the MMT crowd,they do talk it up…..alot.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 17 2025 14:07 utc | 266

Warning, he’s pro U…. But I like his analyses…
Posted by: Anonymous | May 17 2025 11:31 utc | 255
Quelle surprise.
Posted by: James M. | May 17 2025 12:59 utc | 262

100 % thank you James M

Posted by: Avtonom | May 17 2025 14:10 utc | 267

Badjoke@269….dead Russian soldiers look the same as any dead person killed in a war zone, where injuries are on par with WW1…thank your God they do that for you……..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 17 2025 14:11 utc | 268

Here:
https://moneytothemasses.com/saving-for-your-future/investing/santander-investment-hub-review
When you sit down with a private investment firm/ bank. Choose your risk level and duration. The fund manager will put you in one of their savings vehicles.
When you receive the annual report it shows you exactly where your savings have been invested.
Privatisation in Russia could mean many Russian households go through this process. They could be invested in the Russian stock market but you still need to offset that risk by balancing your savings portfolio with some government bonds.
Like I say it would quite ironic if Russian savers were invested in US, UK and Eurozone bonds to off set their risk. These private investment firms and banks don’t give a shit they chase the best return.
Black rock Suspended the purchase of all Russian securities in its active and index funds. But where are Russian investment firms investing to balance risk?
Not in Russia bonds with a debt to GDP ratio of 17%. Unless, Russians don’t really save that much.
With a population of around 150 million and people holding Russian bonds only total 17% of GDP. That’s not very high at all.
My guess is the majority of people who actually do hold Russian bonds are foreigners who export to Russia. BRICS countries. Why debt to GDP is so low.
Because these countries normally swap goods and services and save a very little amount of roubles. They use the roubles they earned from trade with Russia to buy Russian goods and services.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 17 2025 14:20 utc | 269

Peeks@240…..citizens, with no access to their money, the Canadian Model for population control. Tried tested and WEF approved….welcome to hell.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | May 17 2025 14:28 utc | 270

Scott Ritter’s assessment of Russia/Ukraine negotiations:

Russia has informed Ukraine of its baseline condition for conflict termination—the withdrawal of all Ukrainian troops from the territory of lands which, from the perspective of the Russian Constitution, constitute part of Mother Russia. These include Kherson, Zaporozhia, Donetsk and Lugansk. Russia has also made it clear that if Ukraine does not accept these terms, the next time Russia is willing to sit down and negotiate with Ukraine their demands will include four additional Ukrainian oblasts, or administrative regions—presumably Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk, and Kharkov. We have reached the Odessa Moment.

https://scottritter.substack.com/p/the-odessa-moment

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 17 2025 14:31 utc | 271

You are unhinged.
Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 13:58 utc
Anyone reading the thread will get what the poster said. Question is why didn’t you? Just stop. It’s just noise, always just noise with you.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 17 2025 14:31 utc | 272

JFK was no fecking angel.
Posted by: ChatNPC | May 16 2025 23:50 utc | 163

He was, and that is why he was assassinated by people who called him a communist.
Only necessary to listen to his speech in June 1963 about the pax americana.n

Posted by: Naive | May 17 2025 14:34 utc | 273

People seem to be ignoring the obvious concession in these talks — a concession that came 100% from the Ukrainian side.
Remember that Zelensky had his tame “democratic” parliament pass a LAW forbidding any negotiations with Russia as long as Putin was still around. Then recently Zelensky was reported as saying that the Ukrainian LAW applied only to his subordinate weenies, and not to him — he could negotiate with Russia. Finally, Zelensky sent his weenies to Turkey to negotiate with Russia while Putin is still President.
Looks like a Ukranian LAW does not mean much. And Zelensky definitely buckled on that one.
Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | May 17 2025 1:12 utc | 179
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Time to bone up on karlof1’s short (?) and excellent summary of the legal issues which ALL need to be addressed.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | May 17 2025 14:34 utc | 274

The only way to know for sure is for a working Russian to look at their savings portfolio statement look at where they have been invested.
Or
Find out the names of these Russian private sector investment/ pension funds and look at where they are invested. In their different funds they offer customers.
It’s not in normal bank accounts otherwise the government deficit would be so much bigger.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 17 2025 14:35 utc | 275

Theory of Mind doesn’t come easily to those lacking emotional control.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 16 2025 23:51 utc | 164

I love your comment. Not less than four fallacies in one short sentence. Congratulations!

Posted by: Naive | May 17 2025 14:37 utc | 276

if we are talking money ..Germany hoping to rebuild its military and 5% Nato fee…has to deal with a 33billion tax income loss forecast over the next few years due to the economy…..even though it has ramped up together with other EU countries their import of Russian fertlisers…going to have to follow Belgium’example of cutting social benefits?????
Rubio and Lavrov have spoken together, seems ok.

Posted by: Jo | May 17 2025 14:39 utc | 277

I do wonder how much of the $36 trillion US national debt is held by Russian households. Via these private sector investment/ pension firms in Russia.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 17 2025 14:39 utc | 278

The Ukrainian delegation’s suits turned out to be more expensive than the suits of the Americans and Turks. Yermak and Sybiga showed up for negotiations with Turkish and American representatives dressed twice as expensively.
🇺🇦 Andrey Yermak
Brioni suit – $56,000
🇺🇦 Andrey Sybiga
Cesare Attolini suit – $48,000
🇺🇸 Marco Rubio
Hermès suit – $17,000
🇹🇷 Hakan Fidan
Tom Ford suit – $12,000
Finally, it’s clear where the American aid went😁

Posted by: Jo | May 17 2025 14:41 utc | 279

President Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill” Dead on Arrival in Committe after five house republicans vote NO
The Trump agenda suffered a major setback today after a handful of Republicans voted a key bill delivering it down in committee. Now, the largest tax increase in American history looms unless the GOP does an about-face.
As The Gateway Pundit reported, the House Republicans on the Ways and Means Committee — led by Chairman Jason Smith (R-MO) — previously released the text of a monumental new tax reform package titled “The One, Big, Beautiful Bill.”
The 389-page bill includes a long list of pro-growth, “America-First” provisions that echo many of the successful features of the 2017 Trump Tax Cuts this time with no taxes on tips and overtime.
One particular gripe was reportedly the Medicaid “cuts” and the expiration of several wasteful ‘green’ energy tax credits were pushed back several years, while most of the “goodies” were delivered up front. Trump’s “The One, Big, Beautiful Bill” cannot move forward to a full vote in the House or Senate—at least not in its current form.
Worth noting that if this bill passes, it will add $2.5 trillion USD to the already massive American deficit. $3.3 once interest rates are factored in.
MONEY PRINTER GOES BRRRRRRRRRRRRR once again.
@Slavyangrad
plus downgraded economy from AAA to AA1

Posted by: Jo | May 17 2025 14:50 utc | 280

Aaa to Aa1….is that different to my first post?
its all abracadbra to me

Posted by: Jo | May 17 2025 14:56 utc | 281

The consensus among these experts and institutions is clear: the Russia-Ukraine conflict is entrenched, with no realistic prospect of a swift resolution. The ongoing military stalemate, compounded by deep-rooted geopolitical dynamics, points to a war that could drag on for many years.
Posted by: Roger | May 17 2025 3:12 utc | 194

Which experts, which institutions? Western ones! LOL
The word stalemate is the word used by the ukronazis and their supports. Thus you are one of them.
There is no stalemate. The black king is deprived days after day of its pawns, its artillery, etc.
The Russians have time for them. There is no hurry. Contrary to the ukronazis and their supports. Those supports who are cowards and who are shitting in their pants despite their lies and their hypocrisis. As always. Only necessary to remind oneself what happened after the nazi Germany invasion of Poland. Cowards.
Is the west ready for prolonged SMO in Ukraine? This is the good question. Russia can go on with the SMO for 21 years.
The west is powerless.

Posted by: Naive | May 17 2025 14:57 utc | 282

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 13:42 utc | 270
Very good point!

Posted by: Naive | May 17 2025 15:05 utc | 283

Posted by: Jo | May 17 2025 14:56 utc | 292
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The money printer would already be rocking if bond yields weren’t stuck where they are.
A country has various economic levers. For America, debt is a big one.
Another is the coming promised tax cuts. If they don’t set off fireworks, Trump may be forced to manage the metaphorical bankrupt firm through receivership, which is really not his idea of fun.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 15:05 utc | 284

And, where those lost 700 million could have gone when the Ukrainian regime and negotiating delegation is always under the full tutelage of MI6 operatives?
I´ll tell you, the so called “War of Ukraine” is a scam piratesque squeme through which the EU budget is drained to a country which decided by itself to leave the EU so that to not contribute its part to EU budget…I bet they had planned this war way time before their Brexit….
This happens because previously foreign british agents under payement of anglosaxon corporations and transnational funds have been placed at the head of European nations and main institutions through manipulation and bribing of European politicians….
Notice that this makes us all, European taxpayers, de facto slaves of the British elites, as we sweat increasingly more hours per day and years for this mafia to carry on their disolute warmongering thieving lives….

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | May 17 2025 15:06 utc | 285

Naive | May 17 2025 14:57 utc | 293
We must be fair. It’s taken two years to get six miles from Bakhmut to Chasov Yar, and that’s by no means secure. Not stalemate but very very tough fighting.
Roger – I imagine they thought WW1 would last a decade, then Germany packed up despite not an inch of German territory being occupied. “Slowly, then all at once”. Ukraine will run out of conscripts, we just don’t know when …

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 17 2025 15:09 utc | 286

Ghost of Mozgovoy | May 17 2025 15:06 utc | 296
I fear the EU budget isn’t being drained in a UK direction, I only wish that it were.
“I bet they had planned this war way time before their Brexit….”
Absolutely none of the UK elite thought the Brexit voters would win. They were stunned, and so naturally they had to find a reason. “Russian influence” got quite an airing.
I woke up on the morning of the result and I knew straight away Leave had won, because the BBC radio studio was like a morgue. It would have been more upbeat if the Queen had died.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 17 2025 15:15 utc | 287

Is there anybody from Russia at the bar who has sat down with these private pension companies and have a yearly statement that shows where their savings have been invested ??
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 17 2025 13:48 utc | 271

I am from Russia. Very few people here trust private companies with their pension savings because we still remember the 90-ies, when private pension funds were going bust and their owners run to Israel with all the customers’ money.
I manage my pension savings myself through the Sber Bank broker. About 30% of it are bonds, but they are short-term ones no longer than 5 years. That means no State bonds for me.

Posted by: Rutte | May 17 2025 15:18 utc | 288

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 13:42 utc | 270
The parallels between the 2nd Chechen War and the Russo-Ukrainian War are plenty, starting from who was the leader of Russia in both wars and the nature of proxies of the anti-Russian side.
I’ve been drawing parallels between these two wars here at MoA since 2022.
What I am missing yet is who are the Kadirovs of the Ukraines.
I think there are no Kadirovs in this war. And the reason is clear to me. The Chechens were motivated by religious fanaticism, so it was feasible to find a faction that took the Russian side and support that faction.
Ukrops on the other hand, are amoral, they are either cheap hooligan fascists or totally corrupt sidekicks of totally corrupt Jewish oligarchs, so it is unfeasible to find a faction that would turn to support Russia.
But this hypothetical Ukrainian-Kadirov faction may appear later, as heirs of the remaining Ukrainian State, when the war come to the point of massive destruction of Kiev and Lvov (which will happen unless ukrops capitulate and beg for mercy to mother Russia before their annihilation Dresden-style).

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 17 2025 15:18 utc | 289

We must be fair. It’s taken two years to get six miles from Bakhmut to Chasov Yar, and that’s by no means secure. Not stalemate but very very tough fighting.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 17 2025 15:09 utc | 297

Sure. One of the main reason is that the RFA don’t want to sacrifice more men than necessary. Unlike Prigozhine. During 8 years those places in Donetsk were highly fortified. Sooner or later those places will fall. Once again it is not about territory like trolls are wanting everybody to believe, but to the last ukronazi. Why to hurry when the ukronazis are so prone to establish meat grinders.

Posted by: Naive | May 17 2025 15:37 utc | 290

Ritter is looking really chunky. Needs to get out and exercise.
@ Anonymous | May 17 2025 14:51 utc | 291

For those waxing into “really chunky” under the sedentary assaults of old age, I heartily recommend (at least one) canine companion. Regardless of breed, practically guaranteed to get you outside running around; but if you’re into hardcore constant conditioning, you’ll want a (characteristically crazy) border collie.
Folks go on about this “new age.” But it’s “old age” that’s gonna kick your butt. — Utah Phillips

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 17 2025 15:43 utc | 291

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | May 17 2025 15:18 utc | 293
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Remember when NATO satellite ISR was available to Chechnya?
And when NATO gifted military trainers to Chechnya?
How about when America sent heavy equipment to Chechnya?
Yeah, the parallels are endless 😂😂😂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 15:43 utc | 292

So what will DJT and VP have to say to each other on Monday?

Posted by: the pessimist | May 17 2025 15:44 utc | 293

Re: Expensive business Suits ?
What kind of loser wears an off-the-rack suit costing $50,000 ?

Posted by: Exile | May 17 2025 15:45 utc | 294

Posted by: the pessimist | May 17 2025 15:44 utc | 296
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I really hope VVP gives Donald a 45 minute lesson on Russian military history.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 15:45 utc | 295

@ Roger 220 “This war could drag on well into the 2030s, especially if neither side achieves a decisive advantage and Western powers remain committed to a zero-sum framework and their continued deceits”.
Roger, my friend, you are falling for the linear fallacy. Attrition warfare, just like in WW1, behaves like a linear system for a while, making people believe it will be linear forever (i.e. it will take Russia until 2100 to conquer all of Ukraine at the speed of 6 km2 per day). But in reality, it’s a non linear system that will start moving quickly as soon as one of the protagonists has exhausted its stocks of men / arms / finance / morale. Then, as in 1918, the conflict will resolve fast. And Ukraine is getting dangerously close to the end of its stock of manpower (unless western countries step in). Plus Ukraine and Europe are getting dangerously close to the end of their combined stocks of weapons (and the USA are the only ones that could backstop them, but seem unlikely to want to). So… fast, non linear movement ahead. Except nobody knows exactly when.

Posted by: Shahmaran | May 17 2025 15:46 utc | 296

Posted by: Jo | May 17 2025 14:41 utc | 283
RE: the $uits
<< Although Zelensky did not make it to Istanbul, he was briefly in Ankara, and fashionistas reported he was sporting his $20,000 black sweatshirt. Thx, U.S. Congress

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 15:48 utc | 297

“We must be fair. It’s taken two years to get six miles from Bakhmut to Chasov Yar, and that’s by no means secure. Not stalemate but very very tough fighting.”
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | May 17 2025 15:09 utc | 297
“Sure. One of the main reason is that the RFA don’t want to sacrifice more men than necessary. Unlike Prigozhine. During 8 years those places in Donetsk were highly fortified. Sooner or later those places will fall. Once again it is not about territory like trolls are wanting everybody to believe, but to the last ukronazi. Why to hurry when the ukronazis are so prone to establish meat grinders.”
Posted by: Naive | May 17 2025 15:37 utc | 293
You are 100% correct; many brain dead posters still don’t get the Russian strategy

Posted by: canuck | May 17 2025 15:48 utc | 298

Posted by: Shahmaran | May 17 2025 15:46 utc | 299
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Friend, you’re responding to one of Roger’s AI posts.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 17 2025 15:51 utc | 299

Guaranteed that Witkoff has seen the details of Russia’s proposal to end the conflict in Ukraine each time Witkoff has sat down w/ VVP and others in Moscow or Saint Petersburg.
Leaders from NATO are now feigning *shock* at Russia’s “demands,” calling them “too much.”
Nothing is different, however, now in VVP’s proposal than what he laid out publicly in June 2024.
Consistency.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 17 2025 15:51 utc | 300